Sound Sack

Sound Sack

A channel focused on audio quality in video games. Most people talk about graphics, I talk about audio. How well is it done? Does it sound compressed? Is there discrete subwoofer? Is the dialog mixed well? What are the audio options? Things of that nature. Minimal editing (hopefully) and new uploads whenever I feel like like talking about a game's sound. Mostly modern-ish games but there may be some retro game talk from time to time as well.

My MiniDisc "Mix Tapes"

My MiniDisc "Mix Tapes"

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Welcome to Sound Sack!

Welcome to Sound Sack!

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  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy6 күн бұрын

    11:54 and also in cars! My 2014 Lincoln MKS has the 14-speaker THX Audio system. It has a dedicated center channel and trunk mounted subwoofer that is ported through the rear deck. Sounds absolutely incredible

  • @nighttimevideo
    @nighttimevideo9 күн бұрын

    What's the music during the Binaural Sound segment?

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack8 күн бұрын

    That's Ecco the Dolphin on the Sega CD, which was recorded in QSound... very effectively I might add. Especially it's sequel, Tides of Time.

  • @joncarlos716
    @joncarlos7169 күн бұрын

    Thx got greedy they put themselves out of business.

  • @jjjmmm6133
    @jjjmmm613320 күн бұрын

    Wow!

  • @lucymorrison
    @lucymorrisonАй бұрын

    when im in a launching shittons of confusing formats competition and my opponent is dolby

  • @laartwork
    @laartwork2 ай бұрын

    For Qsound it was permanently in the mix. It was never utilized well. You can hear it's potential at 1:07 of the Sting song Mad About You even on your stereo phone. Put phone close to your face with the stereo positioned left and right. If you hold the phone so left and right are vertical it doesn't work and the slide bass almost dissappears. But when positioned properly the bass is to the left and slightly behind. Back in 1990 you could see how can engineer is worried it will mess up the mono mix or sub par listening. But it Eleven works from KZread video kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6you9yoYLKyiNY.htmlsi=s-PRhV4Jc2NYz-8t

  • @vjspectron
    @vjspectron2 ай бұрын

    WOW that Tempo conversion is shocking!

  • @yogi9631
    @yogi96312 ай бұрын

    2024. This is one of the best summations/explanations of the endless marketing BS regarding sound format wars. The simplicity of 5.1 is still top-notch vs modern day Atmos this and that. I remember there was a format that included a centre rear channel, making it 6.1. Personally, for me I think that would be the ideal format without an overkill of channels for typical home theater set ups. Cinemas would be different due to the large venue allowing for unlimited space and speaker placement options. A full discrete 10.1 surround set up in this case. eg L, R, C, left upper channel, right upper channel and the same at the back = 10 discrete channels + the subwoofer would be the way to go. Unless you are a multi-millionaire who can afford a large, dedicated home theatre room, this would be an overkill setup for a typical home environment. Personally, for me, that THX intro was the best out of all the format promos videos. Gave me goose bumps in its presentation especially at home.

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan28642 ай бұрын

    Really, thank you. This was one of the most confusing thing for the longest that I'm slightly more confident about.

  • @eduardoanonimo3031
    @eduardoanonimo30313 ай бұрын

    Dolby Virtual?

  • @mahoro5437
    @mahoro54373 ай бұрын

    Great video! Thanks 🙌🏾

  • @altaybadirov9993
    @altaybadirov99933 ай бұрын

    Fantastic summary. Clarified alot of my guesses and questions.. Thanks alot!

  • @jamesthefighter4058
    @jamesthefighter40583 ай бұрын

    Alright guys, I have maybe seen one comment that may have said what I’m about to say but no one else seems to mention it: Does anyone at all recall seeing this trailer before the theatrical showing of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones in 2002 at all? It might be a mix up of memory from maybe seeing something in 2003 but I swear I remember seeing this trailer before the movie multiple times.. could be a “Mandela effect” you could say but curious if I’m the only one

  • @daisukegori2112
    @daisukegori21123 ай бұрын

    Action movies that lack proper punch and kick impact sounds are my biggest pet peeve.

  • @daisukegori2112
    @daisukegori21123 ай бұрын

    I talk about audio

  • @amelbelimi9577
    @amelbelimi95774 ай бұрын

    Where Form Film?

  • @BiohazardEXTREME
    @BiohazardEXTREME4 ай бұрын

    I know this one's a couple of years old, but if you do another one, I have a couple of suggestions for you. One is Final Fantasy 7's Shinra Company, or Infiltrating Shinra Tower, whose main motif really reminds me of The Running Man soundtrack's "Medical Checkup". Also, in Granblue Fantasy, the Robomi theme is remarkably similar to the song "Sky High" by the band Jigsaw. That one is particularly uncanny.

  • @JonDan
    @JonDan4 ай бұрын

    Hey this is amazing, we need a 2nd part!!

  • @hylianbran7273
    @hylianbran72734 ай бұрын

    Is it bad to always have my subwoofer on when I play old games? The other day I was playing thunder force v and there was a song that the subwoofer was extremely distracting in which got me thinking that these games probably aren't designed with a subwoofer in mind

  • @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii
    @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii4 ай бұрын

    might be that those old games do not filter out low frequencies like is customary in a studio audio mix

  • @hylianbran7273
    @hylianbran72734 ай бұрын

    I think "plagiarism" is a bit of a strong word but this is interesting regardless. I was expecting Metal Squad from Thunder Force IV and Soldier of Fortune to be featured too

  • @user-ep2oq9rt8s
    @user-ep2oq9rt8s4 ай бұрын

    Always enjoyed going to the cinema back in the day to see the THX logo and the full cinema sound experience 😂

  • @rosseenglimmer8962
    @rosseenglimmer89624 ай бұрын

    Wow, I love how Deep Purple inspired the music in legend of Zelda, especially the dungeon theme.

  • @Stone8age
    @Stone8age5 ай бұрын

    Damn I feel how heartbroken that guy would have been if the disk was stolen

  • @DSMChip
    @DSMChip5 ай бұрын

    that soundtrack documentary might be one of the most fascinating things i've heard about in quite a while, really shows you the painstaking amount of time that goes into sound design, especially remaking it for modern general audiences nowadays

  • @stephaniehelmstetter1667
    @stephaniehelmstetter16675 ай бұрын

    0:20 0:09 0:19

  • @georgegardengenesis5732
    @georgegardengenesis57326 ай бұрын

    5:35 There Is A Miles Davis Song Called "Calypso Frelimo" Recorded In 1973, The Song Starts With The Super Mario Bros Underground Theme As A Fast Bassline, But In The Minute 10:45 The Bassline Gets Slower, And It Turns More Easy To Listen And Relationate.

  • @Laissez_Faire
    @Laissez_Faire6 ай бұрын

    To me DTS always sounded best and was always the most dynamic

  • @Laissez_Faire
    @Laissez_Faire6 ай бұрын

    You forgot super audio cd 💿

  • @aravinamehau3699
    @aravinamehau36996 ай бұрын

    Top Draw 20.00 Life LOWERS

  • @gabsterz180
    @gabsterz1807 ай бұрын

    playing the remaster on pc love it but do wish the surround speakers were a bit louder

  • @mikekaye3874
    @mikekaye38747 ай бұрын

    When I first got this disc I played WOW dozens of times. I wish they would release it in HD. Some have tried, and it's possible to replace the footage with the new HD versions. But you can't get the closing classic logo I love so much in HD. I lved this disc. Loved the foley part and have used it to explain to many. Thanks for uploading it. - Toronto, Canada.

  • @j7ndominica051
    @j7ndominica0517 ай бұрын

    This was a compact and clear summary. My perception is that Dolby usually was the first to invent a technology first, then DTS tried to one-up it at a higher bitrate, and we need to pay license fees to both and often have duplicate tracks on discs. A gaming computer could output separate channels, why would it choose a compressed format to send the signal a few meters to an amp?

  • @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii
    @DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii4 ай бұрын

    I would think it's to save on storage space media.

  • @renbelmont
    @renbelmont7 ай бұрын

    I missed the announcement of this channel but I love it

  • @nintenjoe5k422
    @nintenjoe5k4228 ай бұрын

    You forgot to point out that the fart from the last second of the video was the entire soundtrack from Doom on 32X.

  • @alyxoj1361
    @alyxoj13618 ай бұрын

    Be cool if you did a video on the PS5's new Dolby Atmos that uses the Tempest 3D Audio Engine data to process the sound. From my testing I have been quite impressed. SpiderMan 2 seems to have a proper Atmos mix but Horizon FW doesn't but still sounds great.

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack8 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah I forgot they updated that. I'll have to turn it on and see if I notice anything at all in Spider-Man 2.

  • @angelfire2023
    @angelfire20238 ай бұрын

    Mono speaker gigachads, where you at?

  • @suttipayal-gz7se
    @suttipayal-gz7se8 ай бұрын

    Y more people not explained ultra streos

  • @EntNatal
    @EntNatal9 ай бұрын

    I’m genuinely shocked that Lars has not disintegrated Doom with copyright lawsuits

  • @dropkickmonk3y
    @dropkickmonk3y9 ай бұрын

    Its common for game designers to ask the composer to go as close as possible but change it up enough from the reference track.

  • @blackstarbucks
    @blackstarbucks9 ай бұрын

    KZread does support surround unfortunately this video is only in stereo so if you plan to use it for a surround test dont bother. But if youre just here for nostalgia keep on watching!

  • @soundsack5400
    @soundsack54009 ай бұрын

    The LaserDisc itself is also stereo, encoded with surround via common sounds in phase (center channel) and common sounds out of phase (surround channel). KZread or any other stereo delivery format perfectly replicates this. The only way to destroy it would be to listen to only one of the stereo channels, or sum them to mono. So yes, you can use this to test your surround so long as you tell your receiver to engage Dolby Surround. Some receivers (particularly those from Denon and Marantz) will force stereo only (no surround decoding) over HDMI unless the material is flagged for surround encoding. Sadly there's no way to force those receivers to process the surround, but it's more the fault of those receivers than it is of this video or KZread. If the KZread app had a surround flag in the HDMI output then you'd get full surround. I noticed the Discovery app on my Roku recently started doing this. Last year = strict stereo, this year = stereo with Pro Logic decoding.

  • @jacobcoronado1077
    @jacobcoronado10775 ай бұрын

    ​@@soundsack5400what year is it made?

  • @cheesebusiness
    @cheesebusiness9 ай бұрын

    Dolbyt normalno

  • @Mythologos
    @Mythologos10 ай бұрын

    I miss this era of LucasFilm. The 90's was great: TV, movies, books, comics, magazines, games, merch. Dumbass Fanboiz complained about everything Lucas did, but I enjoyed almost all of it. Great decade for the best entertainment company of all time - until Disney flushed it down the toilet.

  • @gamesandplanes3984
    @gamesandplanes398410 ай бұрын

    Zelda and Mario. Tsk Tsk. Legendary themes. Ripped off.

  • @MrRom92DAW
    @MrRom92DAW10 ай бұрын

    My favorite thing about this is Joe’s titles. Of course now in the modern age with the spread of retro gaming culture, and the knowledge we gain from being active on the internet in these circles, we all know the proper terminology. “Ah yes, this is the overworld theme!” But these minidiscs aren’t from 2020’s Joe Red. They’re from 1994 Joe Red. “This is the song that plays when you go outside, this is the outside music.” I think it paints a nice picture of what gaming culture was like and how the average gamer - or even someone verrrrry deep into the hobby - what kind of common vernacular they would’ve used in referring to this stuff.

  • @MrRom92DAW
    @MrRom92DAW10 ай бұрын

    Q-sound at the end of the day IS totally normal stereo, on a technical basis. It’s just very widely mixed with some occasional phase tricks employed by the processor in the mixing stage. I don’t like to look at Q-sound from the perspective of “Q-sound is better or worse than no Q-sound” but rather, it just is what it is. Some things used it and some things didn’t, but ultimately they sound how they sound. At the end of the day there really IS no basis for comparison. Some things were mixed with it and some (most) things weren’t. The US soundtracks for Sonic CD and Ecco The Dolphin CD are mixed with Q sound, as were many of the titles worked on by that composer (his name escapes me) They both have a very particular, high-gloss sheen to them typical of late 80’s/early 90’s pop/funk (in the case of sonic) or New Age music (in the case of Ecco.) I think the Q sound mixing is complementary to that style that was particularly in vogue at the time. They sound right to me. And it’s not like there is a non-Q Sound version, so again, they sound how they sound whether you ignore the fact they used Q-sound or not. For another great Q-sound demonstration album, - excellent on headphones - and something a bit more popular/mainstream than game music, look for the original 1990 CD release of Madonna’s “Immaculate Collection”. It’s a compilation album of practically all her biggest hits up to that point, all newly remixed in Q-sound. Since some of the remixes are so drastically different to the originals I think it is able to stand on its own merits as a great listening experience without an apples-to-oranges comparison to the originals.

  • @soundsack5400
    @soundsack540010 ай бұрын

    Not entirely sure what you're getting at. But Q-Sound is a thing just like Dolby Pro-Logic is a thing. Both are delivered via normal stereo connection and both require stereo. Q-Sound is worth discussing, and people wonder how it can envelop you and how you should place your speakers to take advantage of it, etc.

  • @MrRom92DAW
    @MrRom92DAW10 ай бұрын

    @@soundsack5400 I would say the distinction between Q-sound and Pro-Logic is that with pro-logic, there are multiple channels of audio going into the processor at the studio to matrix them into a 2 channel format, and then on the listener’s end there is another layer of processing that attempts to re-separate those channels as originally input. There is something there that has to be encoded, and then de-coded. Q-sound on the other hand from every step in the studio to the end listener is only stereo. It’s a very enveloping use of those 2 channels, but from beginning to end, still stereo. The Q-sound processor in the studio would be patched in during the mixing stage and applied to individual channels on the board, but it just affected their phase relationship between those 2 channels. Similar tricks have existed since the 60’s but Q-sound was an effort to give the process a cool name, standardize it and market it as such. I think it’s cool. It’s a shame it didn’t really make it past the mid-90’s! It’s worth noting that there were also more advanced implementations of Q-sound that were a bit closer technically to what pro-logic achieved, but the one used for on some music CDs (and by extension, some Sega CD games with redbook CD audio) was the earlier, more basic implementation.

  • @MrRom92DAW
    @MrRom92DAW10 ай бұрын

    I didn’t even know about sound sack until RetroRGB just mentioned it this week

  • @2010MrIsaac
    @2010MrIsaac10 ай бұрын

    Long live the Super Nintendo: the greatest video game console of all time! ❤😊

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_404010 ай бұрын

    The Ninja Gaiden arcade one isn't plagiarism. It's beyond plagiarism. That track plays when you fight the 2 guys who like they are from Mad Max or... the Road Warriors (Legion of Doom) from the WWF who used I am Ironman as their entrance theme in the 1980's. It's all one giant -ripoff- homage circle.

  • @Kage5868
    @Kage586810 ай бұрын

    stupid sound sack

  • @flink1231
    @flink123110 ай бұрын

    Just found the channel, what a great video!!