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With Blaze Nerfed... what to do?? Deck building is not my fortee...
@ProfessorMoaiСағат бұрын
Thx for the video
@badgerbaiter28889 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately you guys missed the damage from the first up the ante when you sorted the life counter out on data doll. Think they should have taken 2?
@badgerbaiter28889 сағат бұрын
Reply just to say I really enjoyed the match either way 😄. Appreciated the coaching from shiryana with the shield / galvanise combo
@AdventureCoGaming5 сағат бұрын
funny enough the mech item shouldn't have entered that turn either because doll specifies mech items Still an interesting game though and appreciate it being put up
@brechtvr55289 сағат бұрын
now I want to build a Shiyana deck AND I also want to build a Data Doll deck... :D
@stephenpenn224811 сағат бұрын
My only concern is that with this many heroes a new player could pick a hero that is complex to play and not powerful in blitz, and consequently get demolished. That would be a shame. Maybe there are three ways to rate heroes: complexity, power, and playability. Complexity would be low or high floor, with low floor to help new players to learn the rules. Power is potential damage output, which is important in blitz. Playability would be how well the hero does against all other heroes. Not that that particular hero will likely win, but how unlikely is it for a new player to have a bad turn. Low likelihood of bad hands means higher playability. If the likelihood of having a bad hand (or turn) against most other heroes is too high, a new player will not enjoy the game. Therefore, a new player may want to know Complexity, Power, and Playability before choosing a starting hero.
@mattycoolsandford17 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure the erase face stops the micro processor coming into play?
@razielsghost610816 сағат бұрын
Yeap, the game is riddled with misplays but its fun to see them experiment with these weird decks. They both seem really enthusiastic about playing as well😊
@seancowan165720 сағат бұрын
I appreciate that you come at this video with the angle that LSS still cares about blitz even though they have intimated they are not planning or designing around it. I think blitz is a very important part of the game as a whole. I personally love that version of the game (I am not saying it's better than CC) and I want it to have continued support. If I had started this game and blitz had not existed, I would never have spent the what must now be thousands of dollars and many many hours of my time playing a game I absolutely love. Keep blitz alive! We need filthy casuals like me to keep the game alive!
@SwordSaint32Күн бұрын
What a shitty thumbnail, not missing a chance to make a fat joke.
@tristenfarmer2033Күн бұрын
I don't know that I think its fair to say that people "preferred blitz" over LL quite yet. first time that LL has been an option and I know some stores more than like chose blitz by default. I think as time goes, LL will creep in more and more for skirmishes.
@SirRabbitКүн бұрын
Personally, I like the increased roster size in blitz.
@majobasilКүн бұрын
GenCon here we come!
@MrRealeyesrealizeКүн бұрын
The main risk I see is newly injected hero’s causing bans that cut the legs off older heroes. Nothing can be play tested out completely, just like software can’t ship without some deep error that won’t show up until the stars align. But this is beside the main point of the video. And as for wizards in the meta, the fact we anticipate how explosive they will be makes me feel like they’re a little too above the format? I want them in there especially with variety, but it seems no good that they’re expected to churn out quickly, and make a lot of noise when they show up.
@joshhoggleКүн бұрын
How many cards and how much life is skirmish?
@Mlord_12 сағат бұрын
skirmish is an event, not a format, the possible formats for it are blitz and LL this season
@joshhoggle11 сағат бұрын
@@Mlord_ ah i see ty
@annieadler4698Күн бұрын
idk how I feel about that thumbnail...
@hamsandwich6685Күн бұрын
Its a joke, laugh a bit.
@SecoutalКүн бұрын
Because you are an intellectual sort, I feel comfortable throwing this at you because you understand nuance. I AM NOT criticizing you, and I am genuinely interested in what you have to say here. So, your thumbnail has a picture of Betsy, with the word bloat in bubble font. Betsy is large, and therefore, I see the connection being drawn here. I am not offended, but I also dont want to tell people how they should feel. However, I kind of think this graphic is on par with Flake saying that Betsy’s open mouth “wants a hamburger” at the release in Queenstown - for which he had to apologize publicly. Maybe it was for another reason, but that’s is what I understood his apology to be for (I could be wrong). I am also not defending Flake, and I don’t think you have to apologize. Flake said a lot of immature things, and I think his punishments from LSS were just. However, the fervor that I saw even second hand on Twitter from the JP event seemed outsized compared to other situations, which I don’t see being discussed. For example, at 2024 US Nationals where Craig and Brian were casting together. It was pretty awkward to hear Brian lay into Craig (even jokingly) about his age and playing Flesh and Boring. It happened multiple times, and kind of escalated when Craig tried to push back. But I didnt see anyone talking about “protecting people in their community” when it was done to Craig - yet a lot of people rushed to stand up for Yuki. There are a lot of dynamics at play. Craig and Brian are both in the racial majority. They have an existing relationship. The power dynamic is more in parity, but its not actually when you look closer, because Brian is essentially the employer to Craig. Flake and Yuki had a gendered power disparity which is very real. But I cant help but wonder if there was some additional savior complex adding to the outrage because they see Yuki as a small asian woman who needing saving (thus erasing her identity in a similar way that Flake was). One thing that I think is special about FAB (and other in person games) is it brings people together from different social, economic, and ideological backgrounds. Morality and justice are as constructed as the game we are playing. FAB is global, and everyone is coming from different backgrounds, and even if there are unifying guidelines set forth by LSS, there will always be gray areas or cultural differences which lead to conflict. These issues are complex, and I think generally if someone makes a mistake, apologizing and learning from it is the best you can hope for. If people keep making mistakes, there should be consequences in line with their actions. However, if we just start shouting at each other I think its hard to find mutual spaces to exist. What do you think?
@hamsandwich6685Күн бұрын
Betsy probably does want a burger, thats incredibly dumb that flake got reprimanded over that. No one can take a damn joke anymore?! Well, for those who cant take a joke, they must be a joke..
@qaaa6759Күн бұрын
@@hamsandwich6685 It's peak oppression Olympic season. Looking to be offended is a way to kill time for people with too much of it and not enough real problems to be had. If people were still running from wildlife to survive they wouldn't be coming up with all these things to cry about constantly. We are making some really weak people these days. Weak people make for hard times and hard times make the weak strong. It's just a phase in a cycle. Most people offended by things said in jest probably needed it and more.
@GarygrineКүн бұрын
I just want more skirmish events
@riddlermangaming3533Күн бұрын
This thumbnail lol
@brechtvr5528Күн бұрын
Skirmish season is going to give out Blaze promo. Funny how news just gets out just after you uploaded this vid. :D
@juliobbeltranКүн бұрын
only one blaze per event... kinda scummy to just drop a meta-relevant hero on such a high (and intentional) inaccessibility
@brechtvr5528Күн бұрын
@@juliobbeltran I agree that this decision is not one I can understand fully.
@ryostrifeКүн бұрын
Go Commando!
@jongibson4766Күн бұрын
I think letting Blitz bloat a little might be a neat way to differntiate it from CC more. If Blitz gets to a point where there's like 75 different characters doing all sorts of crazy stuff, then there's literally a character for everyone's playstyle and aesthetic. Emperor is my favorite deck in this whole game... most of the blitz only heroes have been home runs and I'm excited for them to keep pumping them out honestly.
@DMArmadaКүн бұрын
I like this take
@natedavis55672 күн бұрын
I had a blast at my first Commoner event! I hope it gets more consideration from the community and LSS
@viltur832 күн бұрын
I just actively dislike commoner. I agree that blitz is most likely the worst format for new players (cost and powerful decks) On the other hand I do like the unofficial clash format just by adding the rears the cost is still low. And with the rears the theme and feal of the hero's are there. Look at victor. He is basically no text hero in common only a test of strength. Dromai dose not have any cool dragon etc Add the rears and both hero's feel similar to there normal game plan at low $ cost
@BoltynsBlade2 күн бұрын
Really enjoy the variety of your content. Some deck tech. Some interviews. And then some commentary on the game itself including things like conversion rates. Cool stuff to fill the drive to work with.
@ultimaterare31462 күн бұрын
Georgia is growing slowly but because it’s only CC here. Blitz would definitely draw in disgruntled Yugioh players. Commoner would definitely bring in players who are budget focused and don’t have much time to play.
@jamesarmstrong72972 күн бұрын
I completely agree that we need a good, dare I say ‘casual’, base for the game to survive! I love commoner because it gives me a chance to play Vis again!!
@tcgmetaslayer42022 күн бұрын
Competitive wont keep a tcg game afloat. Look at MtG, standard has waned due to arena and hasbro has no pro tour. Mtg has commander, pauper, etc. i mostly play FaB blitz and commoner. I still play CC but the problem with the CC format is that it should be called CC = Command and Conquer lol.... UPF could be the big seller but it needs WORK..... no one plays it on youtube.... Clash is utterly useless, we need more upf suppoert and PvE
@AshenWingzTCG2 күн бұрын
Great stuff! I'd love for more LGS to run a Commoner/Clash night in addition to running their CC armory. I feel like having both of those available to the community gives a place where if you don't love the CC meta, you can always switch it up. Its also obviously great for new players! Keep up the great work!
@POPPA-KLUMP2 күн бұрын
I’ve got 10 commoner decks, one for every class. I play it with my kids a lot.
@riddlermangaming35332 күн бұрын
It's getting a Gold Foil side event in ProTour Amsterdam says enough right there. LSS is taking it as a serious format.
@newjerseydamo2 күн бұрын
One side event doesn't make it a serious format.
@seancowan165720 сағат бұрын
@@newjerseydamo the gold foil event is almost at every calling or above event and has been for a while. We play commoner for fun in the PDX area but we also put 4 players in the top 8 of a fairly large tournament in LA this year. I'd say give it a chance. The prizing is worth the time for at least one event.
@jiffyb3332 күн бұрын
Great points! I've spend $200 plus on making my commoner decks shiny. The only CC deck I own is the Kayo Armory deck xD
@ftgrimm10162 күн бұрын
Its an amazing format!
@Cryonicity2 күн бұрын
This isn't a video I expected to pop out today!
@6seph92 күн бұрын
I wish clash or something similar was made official, that would make the blitz precon much better and also a real entrance format
@Morventhus2 күн бұрын
Clash becoming an offical format would be fantastic
@rsal1372 күн бұрын
Yes please
@CommissionerManu2 күн бұрын
Clash seems like the perfect stepping stone after buying a blitz precon, it deserves some real love
@DiceCommando2 күн бұрын
I tend to think Clash is best served as a fan-type format - it'll be far more fluid and responsive that way.
@CommissionerManu2 күн бұрын
@@DiceCommandoI agree with the way it’s managed, the seperate rules committee is great to create a different, more inclusive format. I guess I just wish LSS found a way to talk with them and incorporate the ruleset into official tournaments even as a side event, and armoury events or similar. A little like EDH I guess. Great video btw, your points about supporting accessible formats are absolutely spot on.
@jamesarmstrong72974 күн бұрын
So, who would you consider has good chances into Blaze? Nice looking deck! Hope I don’t run across any!!
@DiceCommando4 күн бұрын
Good question! Anyone who can race her down (especially now w/out wildfire!) or anyone who can AB4 like Victor!
@adamvanschoelandt29084 күн бұрын
It’s blazing hot around the country right now in more ways than one. 🔥🔥🔥
@Narabedla44 күн бұрын
The amount of players playing a deck *absolutely* correlates with the amount of players in day2/top8. But yes, the rest of the video i agree with. Using a single value (e.g. conversion rate) to make a point based on Data is almost always wrong/misguided.
@DiceCommando4 күн бұрын
But it's because players gravitate towards the stronger heroes; it's not a product of merely quantity (rather quantity is a product of strength).
@Narabedla44 күн бұрын
@@DiceCommando not merely. But it does correlate. Or would you say kano was a bad deck during PT1, because very few people played it? Similarly iyslander for a big part of her time was not played by a huge meta share, while being absolutely the best deck in the format for quite a bit. There are strong decks that dont get nearly the recognition they deserve by top players (one of them being Dash I/O that is still wildly underestimated with people thinking she gets fatigued by 3 blocks and mediocre fridge and you can hear that from good players in their respective tierlists.) But yes of course playrate is partly a result of a hero being strong, but it also double dips into top8 representation.
@HatterM2474 күн бұрын
Im curious with Enigma being so popular would it be better to swap bracers for Vambrace of determination instead?
@DiceCommando4 күн бұрын
Give it a shot! Just remember that Vambraces just decreases by 1, not making unpreventable.
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With Blaze Nerfed... what to do?? Deck building is not my fortee...
Thx for the video
Unfortunately you guys missed the damage from the first up the ante when you sorted the life counter out on data doll. Think they should have taken 2?
Reply just to say I really enjoyed the match either way 😄. Appreciated the coaching from shiryana with the shield / galvanise combo
funny enough the mech item shouldn't have entered that turn either because doll specifies mech items Still an interesting game though and appreciate it being put up
now I want to build a Shiyana deck AND I also want to build a Data Doll deck... :D
My only concern is that with this many heroes a new player could pick a hero that is complex to play and not powerful in blitz, and consequently get demolished. That would be a shame. Maybe there are three ways to rate heroes: complexity, power, and playability. Complexity would be low or high floor, with low floor to help new players to learn the rules. Power is potential damage output, which is important in blitz. Playability would be how well the hero does against all other heroes. Not that that particular hero will likely win, but how unlikely is it for a new player to have a bad turn. Low likelihood of bad hands means higher playability. If the likelihood of having a bad hand (or turn) against most other heroes is too high, a new player will not enjoy the game. Therefore, a new player may want to know Complexity, Power, and Playability before choosing a starting hero.
Pretty sure the erase face stops the micro processor coming into play?
Yeap, the game is riddled with misplays but its fun to see them experiment with these weird decks. They both seem really enthusiastic about playing as well😊
I appreciate that you come at this video with the angle that LSS still cares about blitz even though they have intimated they are not planning or designing around it. I think blitz is a very important part of the game as a whole. I personally love that version of the game (I am not saying it's better than CC) and I want it to have continued support. If I had started this game and blitz had not existed, I would never have spent the what must now be thousands of dollars and many many hours of my time playing a game I absolutely love. Keep blitz alive! We need filthy casuals like me to keep the game alive!
What a shitty thumbnail, not missing a chance to make a fat joke.
I don't know that I think its fair to say that people "preferred blitz" over LL quite yet. first time that LL has been an option and I know some stores more than like chose blitz by default. I think as time goes, LL will creep in more and more for skirmishes.
Personally, I like the increased roster size in blitz.
GenCon here we come!
The main risk I see is newly injected hero’s causing bans that cut the legs off older heroes. Nothing can be play tested out completely, just like software can’t ship without some deep error that won’t show up until the stars align. But this is beside the main point of the video. And as for wizards in the meta, the fact we anticipate how explosive they will be makes me feel like they’re a little too above the format? I want them in there especially with variety, but it seems no good that they’re expected to churn out quickly, and make a lot of noise when they show up.
How many cards and how much life is skirmish?
skirmish is an event, not a format, the possible formats for it are blitz and LL this season
@@Mlord_ ah i see ty
idk how I feel about that thumbnail...
Its a joke, laugh a bit.
Because you are an intellectual sort, I feel comfortable throwing this at you because you understand nuance. I AM NOT criticizing you, and I am genuinely interested in what you have to say here. So, your thumbnail has a picture of Betsy, with the word bloat in bubble font. Betsy is large, and therefore, I see the connection being drawn here. I am not offended, but I also dont want to tell people how they should feel. However, I kind of think this graphic is on par with Flake saying that Betsy’s open mouth “wants a hamburger” at the release in Queenstown - for which he had to apologize publicly. Maybe it was for another reason, but that’s is what I understood his apology to be for (I could be wrong). I am also not defending Flake, and I don’t think you have to apologize. Flake said a lot of immature things, and I think his punishments from LSS were just. However, the fervor that I saw even second hand on Twitter from the JP event seemed outsized compared to other situations, which I don’t see being discussed. For example, at 2024 US Nationals where Craig and Brian were casting together. It was pretty awkward to hear Brian lay into Craig (even jokingly) about his age and playing Flesh and Boring. It happened multiple times, and kind of escalated when Craig tried to push back. But I didnt see anyone talking about “protecting people in their community” when it was done to Craig - yet a lot of people rushed to stand up for Yuki. There are a lot of dynamics at play. Craig and Brian are both in the racial majority. They have an existing relationship. The power dynamic is more in parity, but its not actually when you look closer, because Brian is essentially the employer to Craig. Flake and Yuki had a gendered power disparity which is very real. But I cant help but wonder if there was some additional savior complex adding to the outrage because they see Yuki as a small asian woman who needing saving (thus erasing her identity in a similar way that Flake was). One thing that I think is special about FAB (and other in person games) is it brings people together from different social, economic, and ideological backgrounds. Morality and justice are as constructed as the game we are playing. FAB is global, and everyone is coming from different backgrounds, and even if there are unifying guidelines set forth by LSS, there will always be gray areas or cultural differences which lead to conflict. These issues are complex, and I think generally if someone makes a mistake, apologizing and learning from it is the best you can hope for. If people keep making mistakes, there should be consequences in line with their actions. However, if we just start shouting at each other I think its hard to find mutual spaces to exist. What do you think?
Betsy probably does want a burger, thats incredibly dumb that flake got reprimanded over that. No one can take a damn joke anymore?! Well, for those who cant take a joke, they must be a joke..
@@hamsandwich6685 It's peak oppression Olympic season. Looking to be offended is a way to kill time for people with too much of it and not enough real problems to be had. If people were still running from wildlife to survive they wouldn't be coming up with all these things to cry about constantly. We are making some really weak people these days. Weak people make for hard times and hard times make the weak strong. It's just a phase in a cycle. Most people offended by things said in jest probably needed it and more.
I just want more skirmish events
This thumbnail lol
Skirmish season is going to give out Blaze promo. Funny how news just gets out just after you uploaded this vid. :D
only one blaze per event... kinda scummy to just drop a meta-relevant hero on such a high (and intentional) inaccessibility
@@juliobbeltran I agree that this decision is not one I can understand fully.
Go Commando!
I think letting Blitz bloat a little might be a neat way to differntiate it from CC more. If Blitz gets to a point where there's like 75 different characters doing all sorts of crazy stuff, then there's literally a character for everyone's playstyle and aesthetic. Emperor is my favorite deck in this whole game... most of the blitz only heroes have been home runs and I'm excited for them to keep pumping them out honestly.
I like this take
I had a blast at my first Commoner event! I hope it gets more consideration from the community and LSS
I just actively dislike commoner. I agree that blitz is most likely the worst format for new players (cost and powerful decks) On the other hand I do like the unofficial clash format just by adding the rears the cost is still low. And with the rears the theme and feal of the hero's are there. Look at victor. He is basically no text hero in common only a test of strength. Dromai dose not have any cool dragon etc Add the rears and both hero's feel similar to there normal game plan at low $ cost
Really enjoy the variety of your content. Some deck tech. Some interviews. And then some commentary on the game itself including things like conversion rates. Cool stuff to fill the drive to work with.
Georgia is growing slowly but because it’s only CC here. Blitz would definitely draw in disgruntled Yugioh players. Commoner would definitely bring in players who are budget focused and don’t have much time to play.
I completely agree that we need a good, dare I say ‘casual’, base for the game to survive! I love commoner because it gives me a chance to play Vis again!!
Competitive wont keep a tcg game afloat. Look at MtG, standard has waned due to arena and hasbro has no pro tour. Mtg has commander, pauper, etc. i mostly play FaB blitz and commoner. I still play CC but the problem with the CC format is that it should be called CC = Command and Conquer lol.... UPF could be the big seller but it needs WORK..... no one plays it on youtube.... Clash is utterly useless, we need more upf suppoert and PvE
Great stuff! I'd love for more LGS to run a Commoner/Clash night in addition to running their CC armory. I feel like having both of those available to the community gives a place where if you don't love the CC meta, you can always switch it up. Its also obviously great for new players! Keep up the great work!
I’ve got 10 commoner decks, one for every class. I play it with my kids a lot.
It's getting a Gold Foil side event in ProTour Amsterdam says enough right there. LSS is taking it as a serious format.
One side event doesn't make it a serious format.
@@newjerseydamo the gold foil event is almost at every calling or above event and has been for a while. We play commoner for fun in the PDX area but we also put 4 players in the top 8 of a fairly large tournament in LA this year. I'd say give it a chance. The prizing is worth the time for at least one event.
Great points! I've spend $200 plus on making my commoner decks shiny. The only CC deck I own is the Kayo Armory deck xD
Its an amazing format!
This isn't a video I expected to pop out today!
I wish clash or something similar was made official, that would make the blitz precon much better and also a real entrance format
Clash becoming an offical format would be fantastic
Yes please
Clash seems like the perfect stepping stone after buying a blitz precon, it deserves some real love
I tend to think Clash is best served as a fan-type format - it'll be far more fluid and responsive that way.
@@DiceCommandoI agree with the way it’s managed, the seperate rules committee is great to create a different, more inclusive format. I guess I just wish LSS found a way to talk with them and incorporate the ruleset into official tournaments even as a side event, and armoury events or similar. A little like EDH I guess. Great video btw, your points about supporting accessible formats are absolutely spot on.
So, who would you consider has good chances into Blaze? Nice looking deck! Hope I don’t run across any!!
Good question! Anyone who can race her down (especially now w/out wildfire!) or anyone who can AB4 like Victor!
It’s blazing hot around the country right now in more ways than one. 🔥🔥🔥
The amount of players playing a deck *absolutely* correlates with the amount of players in day2/top8. But yes, the rest of the video i agree with. Using a single value (e.g. conversion rate) to make a point based on Data is almost always wrong/misguided.
But it's because players gravitate towards the stronger heroes; it's not a product of merely quantity (rather quantity is a product of strength).
@@DiceCommando not merely. But it does correlate. Or would you say kano was a bad deck during PT1, because very few people played it? Similarly iyslander for a big part of her time was not played by a huge meta share, while being absolutely the best deck in the format for quite a bit. There are strong decks that dont get nearly the recognition they deserve by top players (one of them being Dash I/O that is still wildly underestimated with people thinking she gets fatigued by 3 blocks and mediocre fridge and you can hear that from good players in their respective tierlists.) But yes of course playrate is partly a result of a hero being strong, but it also double dips into top8 representation.
Im curious with Enigma being so popular would it be better to swap bracers for Vambrace of determination instead?
Give it a shot! Just remember that Vambraces just decreases by 1, not making unpreventable.