Great Lakes PowerstrokeFX4
Great Lakes PowerstrokeFX4
Great Lakes Powerstroke Fx4 is a channel that focuses on both my f250 Powerstroke, dubbed the GreatLakesPowerstroke as well as Michigan outdoors activities, truck performance/ modifications as well as automotive performance in general. Please feel free to subscribe and let me know how im doing and how i can improve the channel!
Edit: My channel has evolved to equipment use and recommendations, off road fabrication, general automotive tech and outdoor entertainment. I like to educate as well as entertain
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I just had my 2002 Windstar replaced under recall. They replaced the whole axle at no cost to me.
@@dons8365 good to know i cant believe they are still doing it! I know we had that glue and splint added as per the original recall like 12 years ago or something. Ill have to follow up. My patch even though its ugly is rock solid strong but toe ended up being a little off. Its a bit darty in the rain or snow. So i was going to hydraulically push it back but a replacement sounds better
I have a 2020 6.2 and just picked a 2024 7.3. The 7.3 has good torque. Love it so far.
Just be sure to manually rotate these locking hubs at least once a month. They will start to stick, and without a pair of pliers, will be very difficult to lock, and or unlock!!. A little can of wd40 will also keep things free around the hub. Happy 4 wheeling all!!
@@freespirittransport5139 very good point. Exercise is always good
Great review!
@@EngineeringGoneWrong thank you so much for watching!
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 anytime. Us 7.3 owners gotta stick together 🤣🤣
@@EngineeringGoneWrong and take the world by storm lol
Why dont you wash the wheel and tire before you film it?
@@diggermolly5927 that would be disingenuous. Its a work truck not a show truck. I can count on one hand how many times the truck has ever been washed lol
More like 7.25
Seems like this really only matters if you go off-roading a lot or deal with heavy snow on a regular basis.
Could be. But i use 4wd daily to prevent the yard from being torn up. Just hooked up a trailer yesterday after a big rain. It was goshy and it spun a tad. Quick shift to 4wd and you do the job with no grass marks. Thats actually exactly how i found out rhe left hub was failed. I was hooking up on wet grass, spun, put it in 4 and still spun lol. I wanted people to know how their hubs worked and dispel some myths. More extreme uses of 4x4 would be extreme terrain but honestly i use it all the time on soil and grass so i dont dig or leave marks
Pulls like a champ. Knew I made the right choice to stay away from diesels and all their emissions garbage. Really unfortunate.
The 7.3 is for sure awesome. To have all the performance for its price and simplicity is a huge advantage. It has won me over big time
7 lug was on a HD F150
That was what i said wasnt it or did i make a goof up?
Was looking at a Ford F-350 with the 7.3 motor towing a 16,000 lb fifth wheel. But everyone told me to get the diesel because of exhaust brake and fuel mileage. Confused to say the least, would appreciate any thoughts on my issue.
Well for sure the exhaust brake is a great future. I could call both of them, bad gas milage at 16k. I get about 10.5 with my 17k mini excavator on the back but that is on flat roads with something that doesnt have a flat front face. If you tow on mountains i would say diesel is the run away winner. On flat land my 7.3 pulls really really hard and its gas milage is so reasonable towing and empty its a great road trip truck. I think mountains are the real deciding factor here. Diesel is a luxury on flat land, in the mountains its just the way to go
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 thank you, that’s what I thought, now F350 or F450
What did you expect for 445 cid engine. And the more changes in tires and weight, the mileage suffers. I had a dodge ram with the 8.0L engine with 3.54 gears. It got 15mpg at 75 mph, When I bought the truck I was warned about bad gas mileage if I opted for the 4.10 gears. But 15 mpg was it.
Missing a Whipple and it would be perfect x)
Totally agree. Would be a hilariously fun truck. And a carli dominator kit and 40’s and 5.13’s
@3:30 6 Bolt main? That looks like a 4 bolt main.
4 holding down 2 cross bolts
Great minds think a like! I love my '23 Zilla, yes, it's a Zilla. Check out Holley and their swap options for the Zilla. I do like my new front axle, as it behaves better than my '22. Research Dana and their tech on these new diffs. It seems as if they offer much better gear facing with a narrower ring gear. There seems to be 'method to their madness'. Great content! Thank You Sir!
Are you the guy from Alaskan Bush People?
No i wish i was. My aunt an uncle actually know those people personally. They were teachers that flew around alaska to teach Inuit kids for like 35 years
You towing without tow mode on told me your experience .
The truck might implode without it being on tow/haul. Its not like the ecu isnt still making shift choices on load, throttle angle and speed. I must remember in order to be experienced i must never make mistakes. Hundreds of thousands of miles towing trailers means nothing with mistakes
I've rebuilt many old mower decks over the years. Every time I could I cut the whole cracked-out area out as far as I could and put in new steel usually twice the thickness of the old metal. Never had one fail again.
We will see if this one holds. Hes going to run it so i will find out how it does. How many hours have you seen this kind of failure happen in??
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 I mostly just work with old mowers of unknown run times. Too many of them are way underbuilt regardless of manufacture these days. The problem with what you are working with is metal fatigue. You cant fix it with welding. It will just keep cracking next to your welds.
@@tcmtech7515 what im hoping is the extra structure of those metal strips will increase the strength to combat that. I did terminate those cracks with tons of drilled holes. But i know what you are saying, it could crack in the heat affected zone. We just have to see what it will do. Iv never seen this on a stamped steel deck. This mower had like 480 hours on it. Way too soon for catastrophic failure on one hand, on the other 480 hours of abusing it mowing, it doesnt sound so bad. Equipment should be able to last thousands of hours but one could make a case mowers have a more abusive life than other equipment like tractors or hilows or construction equipment.
My 22 F 450 7.3 gas engine Transmission failed @ 85 k Lifter failure @ 115k
The cab and chassis is the most likely set up for the lifter failure. Why they thought limiting oil flow at idle i dont know
Prone to valve train failure
Hell, that’ll probably be stronger than the new deck
I think it will. Hes going to run it for the duration it holds up. Id like to know myself
Cracking tends to form in spots where more more supported and less supported areas meet, such as the edge of a reinforcing web or strut exist. The weak spot is now the outer edge of this reinforced repair area.
@@ProleDaddy that is exactly where it cracked. The stress riser was a steel backing plate for the spindle about 1 inch bigger around than the spindle itself. Thats where it cracked. But the deck was terminal anyway. I think it will last a good while like this and bringing the support. Farther away from the vibration should help alot. There is actually some structure below the supports for all the round areas the blades spin in. Where it was before was entirely unsupported besides the backing plate
Transmission noise is annoying
Built Ford tough
The amount of 10.5 and 11.5 axles fail on chevy and dodge for the last 20 years, we chock it up to crap happens. All of my friends have broken at least one on their truck(s)
hope rear end was covered by warranty or they ripped you off,,way too much wrong with a 1 year old truck,,who changes the ring and not the pinion? amateur hr
Fully under warranty. Didnt pay a dime for all repairs. I must have misspoke in there i thought i said ring and pinion and carrier. It was both changed at once and it didnt net any improvement. Which is weird you would think new bearings and parts would fix the issue
sorry about this. did you notice if the rear axle cover had a re-usable gasket on it from the factory?
I couldnt do the work though considering how clean the outside is my bet is has a gasket not rtv and usually you can but shouldn’t re use axle cover gaskets. No need to be sorry glad you commented
Just got a 24 350 crew cab dually with 7.3, first 100 miles was rough, but once the suspension broke in ride has been good and impressed with the engine
Have you put much weight behind it? What gears? Now that i own a 7.3 im more intrigued about a drw 7.3
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 3.73 gears, I haven't put much wieght, just hauled a couple 1000 in bed
I've driven most of everything & man, it's just hard to beat a Kubota 👍
Couldnt agree more. The loader valve sells me on kubotas. Such precise control
Heck yeah LOVE your attitude.
Did Ford pony up with a loaner for the 3 weeks they had your truck? That’s a long time for a rear end rebuild or replacement.
No lol. If i would have bought the truck at the same dealer, yes i would have but i like the service department at this specific dealer and did not buy the truck there
New stuff is crap
The best my 2024 Crew Cab F250 with the 7.3, 373 gears and 93 octane has gotten on the highway is 18.2. That is with stock wheels and tires running the speed limit. I have a soft tonneau cover on the back which may help slightly. The area driven is North Georgia that does include hills and turns. If I'm pulling my equipment trailer with tractor it drops to about 11. I'm not crazy about the 10 speed tranny as I think it needs better shifting points when towing even in haul/tow mode. Overall, I really do like the truck and would buy it again without a doubt.
aftermarket axle rebuilders are not recommending synthetic oils any longer. GL5 or GL6 mineral oil is preferred
I dont actually know what the stock oil would have been for ford i will look that up
Not down here in Louisiana where mid-day the humidity levels get 93-96%. Too much moisture in the air for non-synthetic oils they will get milky.
@@ShelbyvsViper I was referring to Jasper.
Howard city Michigan here
Vacuum?? Ha, my 04 Silverado has electronic actuators for the hubs....idk wtf Ford is doing over there.
They have always been vacuum and yes its a pain in the ass.
Those those single electronic disconnect on a chevy have given me way more problems than the ford ones have had over the years, but i still resent vacuum
The first thing that I did with my SD was swap the hubs for Warn manual hubs. They changed sometime in 23/24 to a single side disconnect on all the non-tremors. The other side is locked which means that they are relying on the open diff (not really a disconnect).
The GM way is to leave the cv axles connected and to have a disconnect on the (right) long shaft side that lets the ring gear&pinion stop and on only the axle and spider gears in differential turn. RAM had no diconnect for years but about 10 years back they went with the GM style. Ford for 23 1/2 went to one side vacuum hub. I'm only discussing HD pickups.
Towing a 14k pound fifth wheel… my 6.0 did a great job. I need more payload capacity and don’t want a new diesel… strongly considering your exact truck.
Mine is 4381 lbs of payload. Pretty hard to argue with a single wheel with that much. I hear the camper package puts it up to 4600
I went from a 2006 gmc vortex maxx with 410 gears. Hauled around a 15000 pound fifth wheel for 10 years with it. I loved it and had no issues pulling but now I have 2022 f250 with 440 gears and the 7.3. Holy shit dude there is no comparison the two and my economy is just a tick lower on the average but a tick better under a load.
@@creaseejohn756 the 7.3 is no joke. Im an ls lover. We have had great luck with tuned 5.3’s and 6.0’s. But having so much more cubic inches if a 7.3 plus good heads makes for a great engine. I think its awesome to have such tolerable fuel economy and the power we get. I think the 7.3 is going to keep growing as a swap option. I know i can think of a few good applications for it
Regarding the worse after the rebuild. If they didn't remove the pinion gear, clean and replace those bearings at the same time it was guaranteed to fail. Also some gears are matched sets, you can't replace just the ring gear you have replace pinion as well.
They did all that. Full rebuild new ring gear pinion and carrier.
Between you and me i find it very weird it was “worse” after a rebuild. Thats what they told me and thats what the paperwork says
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 yeah that's really strange, sounds like they replaced everything. At least you got it fixed now.
@@chimrichalds1422 seams to be. Makes me think they didnt set backlash right. But with those fancy adjusters like a 14 bolt how could that be wrong. They said there were alot of chips and the official ford determination was it wasnt cleaned properly when it was put together. But i dont understand why all new parts didn’t fix it
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 do you know if they pulled the bearings in the axle tubes and cleaned them out as well? Contamination gets in there too. Or it could be the tech just didn't know how to setup an axle correctly.
Low fluid should have been caught during the dealers PDI
I can promise it isnt leaking. All i know is i think im going to check and replace fluid on all new vehicle purchases from now on. Does the witness mark of the fluid level look low you to in the picture of the axle cover?
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 No, I don't think it was. If it was low, that would ultimately be a dealer failure. They are the last line of defense for that type of thing. They should inspect all fluid levels prior to delivery. I'm with you, though, I like to check everything when I buy a new vehicle. Ultimately, nobody cares about your truck more than you do.
Pdi is just apply 20k of crap you didn't want...
@@cstgx i didnt buy it from the same dealer i use for service.
@@breckfreeride pdi is pre delivery inspection.
its not bumpy.
It looked terrible in the camera when filming lol. It must have stabilized
I've heard some squeaking at my rear axle. I figured it was the brakes. How do you know if you have the 11.6 axle? Mytruck is a 23 F350 6.7L . with 7k miles on it.
You most likely have an 11.6. Go count your axle cover bolts. If its 16 than its an 11.6
Goofy ass truck. Why do people get super short beds and huge cabs? Completely makes no sense
Family in the front and trailer goes out back. I usually just use my bed for loose goods. I rarely haul much in there.
I’d rather eat a bag of dog 💩 then live in Michigan. lol nah I want one of these with a tremor package. You’re hella knowledgeable, I appreciate the video!
Waiting for my 11.6 rear in my 2024 with 900 miles to be rebuilt now.
Wow thats early. Total failure or just noises?
Also thanks for confirming it isnt only 2023 axles with a problem.
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 terrible whirling noise like old brakes dragging. My 5th wheel prep system is off too. I can't get my 5th wheel base to set in the pucks. Right rear puck is 1/4 inch low and the spacing is off. Many guys with 3/2024 builds are having this issue
@@mikehigham9552 wow that sucks!
2012 ram 3500 4x4 auto gets 20
23 f250 cclb with 3.73 Took a 250 mile trip on a 2 lane highway at 65 mph, slowing to 25 mph through a few towns. Fairly flat, a few hills. Hand calculated 18.757 mpg.
Im impressed i was working hard for my 18.2. But i started out with a headwind on the first 60-70 miles i wish i didnt have lol
Ouch that was rough to watch
Wasnt so bad outside. Super smooth. Obviously a crane would always be nice.
Nice truck
Thank you!
Wish I could get that I just got a 2020 F350 with 430s. I can’t even get 14 on the interstate running 70.
Im curious what you are spinning at 50 55 60 and 65? I do wish i had 4.30’s and i wish i had access to a 4.30 truck to see what i could get for fuel economy. My dad beat into me smooth driving when i was a kid and i guess i just enjoy maximizing fuel economy.
I haven’t had the truck long enough to do a lot of experimenting, but I’m in the hills of Kentucky, which doesn’t help fuel mileage on a daily driving basis. but I’m going to pull a roughly 8000 pound grand design camper up to northern Michigan second week of July. We’ll see how it does
@@F350Bigboy where i am is very flat so its really best case scenario.
@@F350Bigboy if you want any travel location tips let me know. Lots of interesting things to see in northern michigan
@@F350Bigboy I have owned three 7.3 gassers my first being a 2020 with 3.55 gears. Got awesome fuel economy but lacked towing capabilities so I ordered 3.73 on my next 7.3 and that had the best of both fuel economy and towing. I now own a 24 tremor and it has 4.30s and I lost at least 2 mpg around town but it will tow a house. Where I live is very hilly and I average now 11-12 mpg with the 4.30s. I used to get at least 14 with my other two.
2024 F350 Tremor Platty 7.3 with 4.30s. At Sea Level. 87 Octane. Stock height running 18x9 Methods and 305/70/18 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs (same height as the factory tires but 12” wide). 11.7mpg lifetime average. 4K miles so far. 50/25/25 city/highway/towing.
2024 F250 stx 7.3 160wb 3.73, and I am getting 17mpg on i-75 between Chattanooga and Knoxville TN going 65-70. I also tow a 7000lbs bumper pull travel trailer and am getting 8-8.5 mpg going 65 which is a bit disappointing as I was expecting 10mpg based on many owners' comments. My former 2020 F150 XLT 2.7 145wb 3.73 with load range E AT tires got 21 mpg and 10.5-11mpg respectively doing the same things but using 93 octane instead of the 87 I now buy for godzilla.
Bet if you dropped to 55 you would increase fuel economy a tad without really any loss in travel time. I know i love running cheep fuel. I just filled up for 3.19! Thanks for commenting and watching
Great focus on bolt! the reason I say this is I have the same unit and sheared the bolt off just as you suggested. The problem I had was when I took the clutch off I could not figure what it was held in by (in the sense of not letting the clutch spin). After 1 hour of trying all positions I viewed your video where I could SEE the missing bolt for the first time. Thanks for great camera work!
Thanks for your kind thoughts. This is a bad design. The bolt in single sheer is a terrible idea. They have a new strap design that they will send with the new clutch and its a similar set up to the way lawn mowers are run. There is really no excuse for this.
Love the video