Required off road recovery gear to pull, and how you should hook up

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I go over tried and true off road recovery methods iv used many times safety and successfully. I go over soft shackles and hard shackles and straps and bubba ropes/ kinetic ropes.

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  • @pat9125
    @pat91253 ай бұрын

    Probably one of the most dangerous recovery videos on the internet. People have paid with their lives to prevent exactly this kind of bad information. "I've never had a problem" is not a qualifier for doing something that is so inherently dangerous. There are many videos explaining the physics involved in recovery and many videos explaining injuries and death resulting from doing the things shared in this video. Viewer beware. FYI...hitch ratings are for towing not for recovery. Ask the father who was killed next to his children when a friend used his hitch to try and pull him out. It was never a problem and always worked fine until it got someone killed.

  • @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    3 ай бұрын

    With all dude respect you are wrong and you need to examine the weight capacity of the hitch and pin you use. And consider its also pinned to the hitch safety chain eye. And i question your specific experience with recovery or are you just saying no one should recover at all. For many of us its a necessity. Also i specifically advocated for 2 5/16 big shank ball which is significantly stronger than required and specifically recommended against any 2 inch ball. And specifically recommended solid or very well built hitch receivers as opposed to the stamped ones. As someone who recovers all the time and for the last 12 years of my life used such stills and tools to do so, i know for a fact my recommendations are safe and sound and again i question your experience. Also, the arrangement i used is significantly stronger than pulling from a single point like a towing eye on a bumper or fixed to the frame. I also pointed out the strength of the trucks hitch needs to be strong enough to Handle the job. Some small vehicles need not by recovering from the hitch. As you can see the superduty hitch there and in most cases with HD trucks the hitch itself is many time stronger than it needs to be to recover with the truck its attached to. So thanks for watching, but i posted with many years of safe recovery in mind. A decade actually. When using the proper materials its not only safer but stronger than any other method because you have distributed the load across to several components which each individually are stronger than are needed. I could put a strap on a ball of the strength that hitch is, and the pin is more than up to the task, and i could soft or hard shackle to the safety chain eye exclusively and again have more than the required strength. Or i could do both, which i strongly advocate so the load is shared. And though extensive experience and knowledge on the subject i can say with absolute fact that this set up is both safe and effective and is equipment dependent. If you have a weak truck and a weak hitch receiver with a weak ball with a weak truck hitch you wont have success. Considering HD trucks are the general focus of my channel, everything is far over built for the demand

  • @pat9125

    @pat9125

    3 ай бұрын

    @@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Tow hitches have no place in a recovery situation unless it's the only thing you have and it's an emergency without any other options. The proper way is to remove the hitch and replace it with a removable rated tow point or use/install a rated tow point. Something like a hitch link from factor 55 or similar. Of course I'm not saying you shouldn't recover at all I'm only saying that there is a safe way to accomplish recovery and your video is dangerous and only appropriate for last resort. Real people have died learning these lessons. When you wrap a tow strap around a tow hitch you have no idea what the load ratings are and consequently cannot possibly be safe. Straps carry a rating based on proper use and wrapped around a tow hitch does not constitute proper use. If you can't identify the break point at each connection in your setup then it's not possible to be safe. I worry for you and anyone that follows the advice in the video. Dynamic loads, static loads, shear points and more are all real things required for safe recoveries and this video covers none of that and introduces dangerous seat of your pants techniques that will get someone injured or worse. Quality recovery gear has ratings printed on them and their proper use is essential to be safe. I seriously wish you the best.

  • @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    3 ай бұрын

    The pin is always the limiting factor of any recovery from a hitch. And with a strong pin, and a hitch stronger than the load on the line, there is no difference. I advocate for two points. The hitch and the safety chain eyes which individually are stronger than needed and together are far in excess of what is needed. The hitch shown is a solid forged shank. With a 20k trailer rating. Simply put you could hang the tow rig and the stuck truck by that hitch, on its side and it wouldnt break. Similarly you could hang both vehicles by the pin without issue. Are you sponsored by factor 55? What did people do before factor 55 hitch links? Im well aware of their existence and am hardly going to advocate my viewers spend 87-160 bucks on one when they could put that money into a kinetic rope and quality soft shackles. Your comment is reading like an advertisement for a product. While im sure their product works fine and is probably strong, its simply relying on the pin and if you watch my video by wrapping the strap around the shank and then terminating it on the safety chain eye you are distributing the load to two points on the truck. 1) with the right equipment it is more than strong enough 2) it is as safe as off roading and recovering can be 3) after being party to dozens of major recoveries though experience i can safely say that marketing materials by people selling you a product are over stated and exaggerated. By major i mean 7k+ truck framed out in adverse circumstances. I am well aware of videos of 5 and 6k rated 2 inch balls on small 2 inch cheep receivers being used to recover and disasters occurring. There is more than one way to skin a cat and it isnt always buying gucci overlander gear and frankly 2.0 heavy build receivers with 2 5/16 balls especially big shanks are more than safe even pulling out a stuck semi with a pickup. If you disagree, get out there and pull things out and develop your own experience with gear. Thats what i did in hopes of helping people without advocating gucci gear that nickel and dime people or in this case, Benjamin people who are trying to get out and have fun.

  • @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    @greatlakespowerstrokefx4

    3 ай бұрын

    And also considering factor 55 only makes aluminum products that i know of, they would be used in light duty recovery applications. I personally would not choose to use an aluminum hook on more than a 4 door jeep. As for an aluminum hitch shackle point, the steel pin will eventually beat the aluminum into an oval. Eventually the aluminum will fail. So there is a reason high duty cycle industries like towing and the crane industry dont use aluminum. Also you wont find a tow company using a soft shackle. You also will find it very rare that they would use a synthetic line. They use cable and steel hooks/ shackles. We off roaders take strength compromises for weight and comfort. You cant always look to towing because its not the same application but the same can be said about the blanket statement that trailer hitches are unsafe. Save depends on the structure rigidity of the whole system. And i completely outlined the considerations of the entire system.

  • @pat9125

    @pat9125

    3 ай бұрын

    @@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 I suggest you watch Matts offroad recovery where..contrary to what you stated..uses soft shackes and synthetic line. Many offroad recovery experts and companies use synthetics. If you don't like aluminum then use steel but never use the towing hitch. Bow shackles have a role to play. I suggest educating yourself maybe and let go of the outdated knowledge for the safety of yourself and your viewers. There's a reason most winch manufacturers are using synthetic line now. I don't know about commercial recovery and other areas but for the general off road recovery of 1 ton and below trucks the less steal used the better. Hitch mounted recovery points such as the factor 55 hitch link is far better and safer than a towing hitch and if you want the same thing in steel form then that's fine as well. The reason it's fine is that you have an actual rating for the equipment and instead of just going by seat your pants. This allows you to actually be safe. lets you calculate the needed recovery. A 10k truck buried to it's axles requires at least 20k lbs force....possibly more if it's uphill and the type of ground. The gear needs to support that. Wrapping around a towing hitch leaves you no idea whatsoever what you can pull safely. Please learn and be safe out there.

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