Is this crazy or brilliant?! Don't know 😂 but wow a rare car indeed, great hearing about its history and seeing inside, the boot interior I just can't get over in a 35-year-old car! ❤❤
@OldCarsNewVan28 минут бұрын
Cheers Mel - and thanks for all your support on this channel. Mike & Maia 🥰🥰
@mattylamb919459 минут бұрын
No Ford Escorts!
@OldCarsNewVan41 минут бұрын
my parents weren't that cool🤣
@billmitchell79042 сағат бұрын
I had to maintain a fleet of Chrysler/Talbot Alpines, they were absolutely terrible! Trim fell off regularly and I particularly remember one that put a piston through the engine block at just 5,000 miles 🤬Much to my relief the company changed the fleet to Fords.
@OldCarsNewVan2 сағат бұрын
Oh dear - sounds a nightmare. Think my Dad got away with his. Of course it's all down to statistics - a really reliable brand will have 95% of it's customers enjoying totally trouble free motoring. A really unreliable brand will only have (I'm plucking these numbers out of the air to make the point) 50% of it's customers enjoying trouble free motoring - Dad must have been in the lucky 50% 🤣 Thanks for watching
@chrisstephens61943 сағат бұрын
Great work we had the alpine
@OldCarsNewVan2 сағат бұрын
all great childhood memories & nostalgia. Thanks for watching
@chrisstephens61942 сағат бұрын
@@OldCarsNewVan we also had an allegro briefly as a courtesy car. What a pig
@OldCarsNewVan2 сағат бұрын
@@chrisstephens6194 🤣🤣 true - what was bizarre after Dad's experience was at 17 he bought me an old Allegro as my first car 😂😔 ffs - why that out of any car 🙄Still, today it would draw a crowd at a classic car show 🥴
@chrisstephens61942 сағат бұрын
@OldCarsNewVan my dad went through cars like anything, lancia beta,vauxhall Victor,we had a big burgundy 7 series, a couple of dodgy xj6s, a cream coloured 518,a pale blue 2000E mk3 cortina an Austin Maxi...... all in no particular order
@OldCarsNewVan40 минут бұрын
@@chrisstephens6194 more like me than my dad 🤣
@user-tc8zu6qv8n6 сағат бұрын
About the only things that didn't, very quickly, rust rust away on the Talbot/Chrysler Alpine were the tyres.
@OldCarsNewVan6 сағат бұрын
🤣🤣🤣funnily enough, I don't remember Dad's 2 rusting at all - but then they were new (ish). The really rusty car he had was the Austin Princess
@Golo194919 сағат бұрын
I had an Alpine and it was really a decent car, roomy, practical and fast, it had the usual hatch rust but it was so good I bought a new hatch and painted it and fitted it. I eventually gave it to my brother in law but her wrote it off on a motorway down south somewhere.
@OldCarsNewVan19 сағат бұрын
it's amazing how much nostalgia the Alpines have generated. As I say, my Dad had no problem with them - they proved reliable. My Mum's Horizon on the same vintage was a poor car - but it could have been just an unlucky example.
@Shady_Swordsman20 сағат бұрын
Love what he’s done with it
@OldCarsNewVan20 сағат бұрын
it's fun - and goes like stink. We particularly like the message on the centre console 🤣🤣🤣
@Mel_M23721 сағат бұрын
Amazing to see the actual car in real life 😍
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
it's certainly striking
@TheSecurdisc22 сағат бұрын
I had a red Chrysler Alpine. Very nice interior and plenty of room with beige cloth seats. I liked the car (WFN 224T). Rust got her in the end, especially over the big square headlights. The gear box travel was immense...like having a gear leaver in a bucket.
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
someone else on here recalls their Dad's gear changing as if his hand was going through the dashboard, such was the length of travel🤣
@Pdor_figlio_di_Kmer23 сағат бұрын
Your story mirrors mine (rather, my father's) in ways that are uncanny. I too was born in 69 (September) but my father didn't apply for a car licence until 75. He too, like yours it seems, wasn't a car person and never bought *(never)* a new car. His first car he bought was from a car dealer that _should have been_ a family friend. He was a friend of money instead and sold my gather a FAT 850 Coupé... with its engine head gasket fried. My father made it repair but that car was up to the very last day we had it an overheat problem. My father, God rest him, was not a car person. I reiterate it because in changing car he went to the same solemn bastard that fleeced him before. He never could explain me why while he lived. And this, the solemn bastard, with the excuse that it was an economical car under the gasoline consumption, gave him (fortunately only lent him it for a while to check it out) a NSU Prinz _that was older than the 850 my father just got rid of._ What to say about that Prinz... once, maybe because the tires or something, on a mountain road it decided that it would have been a nice idea to put itself astride the road in a sideslip my father (that always was a conscious driver) did not start nor want. Lucky that road had at the time no traffic. Then, in 77, when we went renting a house for the summer vacation at about 200Km from home it got the brilliant idea that it would have been funny for one of the motor mounts to shatter. The engine canted on a side and only first and second gear could be selected. Now imagine travelling 200Km in second gear in a Prinz to return home. And it was a lucky strike of sort the support that broke was that one, if it was the twin one only third and fourth gear could be used, stranding us there. Once we got home, in the following days, my father brought that green (it was green) disaster to a mechanic that if I recall correctly asked for 50.000 od old seventies Lire to change the support. In modern currency would have costed about 500€ (roughly calculated). Fed up with that disaster on wheels he brought it back to the solemn bastard and was lucky enough to find a FIAT 127 with only one year of life and 20.000Km done given in by its previous owner that needed money (for what... we'll never know). That poor 127. That poor, poor car... a martyr my father an ragged, but not because he raced in it, he never even in the highways exceeded 80Kmh, but because beside not being a car person my father (rest in peace) never developed a "care for your wheels" mindset. He made gasoline when needed, when the motor oil dipped below a given amount added more (cheap) oil, cared for the brakes' efficiency and changed tires when the tread became too thin for the law (1mm at the times). That's it. Some time before his death he recalled he made a mechanic change the oil filter ONCE only, almost assuredly because the previous one had terminally clogged. That car remained with us something like six years and crunched 128.000Km (before the odometer and the speed gauge both stopped working) and then more too. In the end, with an engine that had been in a war, structural rust that was mirrored on the body making it become from its native silver grey to roseate he disposed of it... to buy a FIAT Ritmo that was an unmitigated disaster. My father was also a believer of small engines because they drink less, and usually it's true... unless you mount them on a chassis that is too big for it to move efficiently and that beast of a car didn't go well with a 1100cc engine. Add that said chassis had the same rust problems of the 127 and the engine had electrical problems that were never identified (he even made some other solemn bastard change engine with a "new" one, burning 700.000 Italian Lire of the mid nineties and I had to help him with mother saying I gave him the money or that day would have ended up in a divorce) he belatedly decided the throw it away. Buried the Ritmo he bought a FIAT Regata, another disaster. If I remember little of it beside an elastic chassis and almost no handling is because it was stolen. Undaunted my father bought ANOTHER FIAT Regata more or less on the same level with the stolen one but that had an anti-thief alarm... that worked ONCE, the second attempt saw the car stolen too. In Naples, FIAT cars get stolen often today too, and at the time it was even worse. By then I was old enough to have a driving licence and a car of my own, a 1984 BMW 318i (that was my second car, my first one, I'm ashamed to say, was a SIMCA 1307GLS to learn the ropes of Naples driving. After all, crashing a car like that was hardly the disaster that would have been crashing a good car, not that it happened, I resold it away for a pittance because was fed up with it), and faced with my father's determination to waste further money and horrified he would buy another cesspit on wheels in the name of saving money, given I used it scarcely, gave him the other key of my car no question asked, to be used by him when (and it was often) I had no need for it. That car served us well (only two mildly serious breaks and a body respray because the original paint had worn out into a mess of different shades of blue) up 2010, when because of my sustained ignorance of needing an additive in the green gasoline not to fuck up the engine (I'm only human), and only for that because the car was otherwise spotless, I had to give it for scraps. We bought then a second hand FIAT Punto Multijet behind my mother (who never got a driving licence but had a lot of say about money expenditure) absolute veto for father wanting to buy a Matiz (because of the small engine doctrine he followed, and my mother was damn right, that thing was minuscule and had no trunk to speak of too). that in 2020 following my father's departure I inherited and still use. Your story made me reminisce. Hope I didn't annoy you. 🙂
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
amazing - thanks for sharing. Old cars certainly provide us with memories & nostalgia
23 сағат бұрын
I love this list of mediocrity, not the cars that everyone wanted, but that real people drove.
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
absolutely - memories & nostalgia
23 сағат бұрын
Those Alpines was the last straw for my mate's Dad. He had a slew of Arrows motors - I remember the last he got - but when he came to change that one, he wouldn't go near the Chryslers. I think he had a Ford before switching to Saabs.
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
now funnily enough my Dad's Alpines were very reliable - unlike my Mother's Chrysler Horizon from the same generation which was truly awful
10 сағат бұрын
@@OldCarsNewVan My mate's Dad's wasn't unreliable. But it was unrefined, less comfortable than the Arrows cars and he didn't like the look, much.
@OldCarsNewVan10 сағат бұрын
absolutely - very loud engines and a comedy gear change. I think the styling was very much Simca rather than the more traditional British Arrows cars
@simonmarsden66Күн бұрын
My dad painted his Chrysler Alpine's bumpers black, maybe he saw yours for inspiration
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
🤣I've had 2 others say the same about their Dad's - so so far there are 4 of us 😂😂😂
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
Perhaps we could set up a '#metoo' support group for son's of Dad's who painted bumpers 🤣🤣
@simonmarsden66Күн бұрын
@@OldCarsNewVan My lasting memory of that car was the unusually long gear lever, it always appeared like he would drive his cand into the dashboard. Dad also wasn't happy when I showed him you could open the drivers lock with a penny
@stephenc6648Күн бұрын
The beige Alpine bumpers looked very grubby very quickly. Washing made no difference. My Dad also painted his matt black. Later models had black bumpers anyway so as well as looking better, painting them made the car look newer.
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
@@simonmarsden66 I'd forgotten the gear lever - rings a bell now you've mentioned it. Didn't know about the lock🤣
@lesliedrysdale2434Күн бұрын
The company I worked for had one talbot alpine at our depot our vehicle inspector condemned it with 19000 miles on it was rotten with rust
@robertallen3441Күн бұрын
Just discovered you via your comment on Old Classic Cars channel. Just watched this and its just my sort of thing, love looking at photos of older cars and the stories behind them. I have subscribed and can see I have plenty of vids to catch up on.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
Thank you - and welcome! I actually met Rick at the recent Thoresby classic car show we attended in our Rover P6 and he kindly subscribed as well - which was slightly surreal as I've been watching OCC for years and this is a fairly new channel. So it's a mix on here - my wife has the mk1 mx5 so there is some JDM stuff which might not be for everyone - whilst I'm in the 70's with my P6. Plus there is a very 'unexceptional' 80s car coming to the channel soon - yet to be announced. Enjoy, and thanks again. Mike & Maia
@kirkdeighton5406Күн бұрын
My Dad did the exact same thing to his Alpine. He also painted the vinyl roof black, too, so it would match.......Great video!!!
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
Gosh - Dad's of the 70's 🤣🤣Someone else commented their dad did the same with his bumpers so that's 3 😂
@andysaunders3708Күн бұрын
Functional is good. High mileage Nissan Tiida -I love it.
@buxvanКүн бұрын
My wife's friend, "Scottish Doreen" (who lived in the South of England) had a Chrysler Horizon in the early 90's. It was called "The clatterer" due to the noisy tappets they all had. We had amongst many cars, a Suzuki SC 100 GS Coupe which was called the "crabber" as someone told us it was crabbing when they were following us one day !
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
these old cars certainly have lots of nostalgic memories. Thanks for watching
@nygelmiller5293Күн бұрын
The WHITE MARINA would have looked nice with the bumpers painted black!
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@salvagedb2470Күн бұрын
My Dad bought n repaired Cars in the 70's the MK2 Cortina was a good seller an Looker , the Allegro was a pile of Crap , Vivas were good , I had the Coupe which looked great but its 1300 Engine was Mince , the Dawn of the Japanese Cars changed everything as everything you had been Driving before hand was Crap ..The Datsun 240 was owned by a Guy I called 70s Man , He had the Moustache an Leather trousers an He painted the 240 in Black it was Gorgous , I see him now an He's as bald as a Coot..
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
😆 great memories - thanks for sharing
@johnholt890Күн бұрын
Chrysler Europe was owned by the US company until,sold to Peugeot Citroen who adopted the Talbot ( French Chrysler) name I think.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
yep - spot on - parents never did have a Talbot badged one
@maledwards4944Күн бұрын
Loved the Video and the cars. So many memories. I was Born and bred in Chester.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
I still have family there - great memories
@Classic_and_RetroКүн бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Stag! That one looks mint.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
It was nice to be fair - this video was before we had our Rover and we were thinking what to replace our VW T2 bus with. Still glad we ended up with a P6 rather than a Stag 🙂
@heavyt749Күн бұрын
That brought back a few memories for me !
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
that's what it's all about 🙂 thanks for watching
@peterm6219Күн бұрын
Thank god for the Jenkins’s. Horrendous childhood cars😮
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
pretty much 🤣🤣🤣although the irony is all of them would draw a crowd at a classic car show today
@mheijne2Күн бұрын
The first thing I noticed was the airy and Light interior of the Alpine
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
yes, cars in the 70's with their thin pillars and plenty of glass were so airy compared to modern cars.
@howellstevens9622Күн бұрын
My late father purchased a new Escort Ghia mk 2 in 1977. Nova green metallic with green velour seats.I was promised a ride out in it after we picked it up after school.But it was driven straight into the garage & after 3years had only 3000 miles on it. DVLA records it as being on a SORN as of today.A collectible car,I hope someone looks after it.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
wow - that would be collectable. Thanks for watching and consider subscribing if you haven't already. Cheers
@UberLummoxКүн бұрын
You poor unfortunate soul! (haha) 😁 That Audi seemed ok though for sure. Even the more common-ish '60s - early '70s cars here in the US of A seemed a bit more interesting. Maybe I'm being biased. Though I was very jealous of your Jaguars & many other Euro cars, our '68 Olds Delta Custom coupe w/a 455 was a stunning & very powerful car for being lower - mid-range. But after '71 or so, cars turned to $hit so we bought SAABs. From 3cyls. to V4 96s to 99s, then to 900s. Great vid!
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
love Saabs - it's on the list to buy one day
@STORMCLOUDGREYКүн бұрын
The E23 BMW blew my mind when I was a kid too. After the quietness & smoothness, the big wow for me was to get the blower from feet to windscreen you pressed a button. No effort of sliding a lever like you did in a Cortina.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
years ahead of it's time
@mikaelabowen57812 күн бұрын
This was fun! Nostalgia plays such a huge part in formulating one's taste in cars. My childhood transport included things like sidevalve Morris Minors and Fords, Austin A30/5s, A40s, A55/60, Riley 1.5, Mk1 Minis, BMC 1100s, Bedford CA, etc, and a few more interesting ones like 1966 Renault 4, 12, Oval window Beetle, NSU Prinz, DAF 44/55, Pug 204. Happy daze!
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
amazing collection you've listed their. It's the main joy of the old cars we have on this channel - the memories! Thanks for watching & subscribe if you haven't already
@mickvonbornemann38242 күн бұрын
Cars made anywhere during the 70’s & 80’s became rust buckets real quick
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
by the 80's some of them were ok
@Wil-nh5kz22 сағат бұрын
I have a 1988 Golf Mk2, 300,000+ miles and no rust.
@OldCarsNewVan21 сағат бұрын
@@Wil-nh5kz VWs in the 80's were superb 👍
@markstockton691820 сағат бұрын
Know what you mean. My dad got a brand you Chrysler Alpine as a company car, which was lovely inside with its big cloth seats compared to his previous avenger. Anyway, after just 2 years there was a square inch patch of rust on the sill. These days most cars still don’t develop any rust until they are about 15 yrs old or more.
@OldCarsNewVan7 сағат бұрын
@@markstockton6918 yep, modern cars certainly have improved in 2 big areas - safety and rust prevention. Still prefer the older cars though 🙃
@justinmepham49702 күн бұрын
My Dad had a Chrysler Alpine in Blue, R Reg and he painted the white bumpers black by hand as well 😂
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
No way! Dad's of the 70's hey 🤣🤣🤣
@geetee71542 күн бұрын
The venerable Chrysler Alpine, I bought an Alpine S XCP48R when it was 2 months old, did nearly 70k miles in that one, it was a great car
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
Yeah, don't remember dad having any trouble with either of his - unlike my mum's Chrysler Horizon. Must have been just a bad example
@jasoneldridge4738Күн бұрын
You could hear it coming from a mile away
@johnholt890Күн бұрын
My dad had two used to tow a caravan all over Western Europe. Then he moved onto Sierras and Mondeos.
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
@@jasoneldridge4738 that's true
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
@@johnholt890 yeah they were reliable enough - old fashioned compared to the Sierras & Mondeos of course
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
So nice.I have born 1968.Finnish cars were british and germany,and neiborg Saab & Volvo ,in late 1960.
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
And Peugeot 😅
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
My dad had a Datsun 510 in 1972 ,it was 1968 model ,52000 km.
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
Motor heatin problem in 510❤
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
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@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching - great childhood memories
@RogerWarren-ec2ql2 күн бұрын
Austin Agrow.the.angry.one..australia❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
Indeed - after that experience why did my dad buy me one as my first car when I was 17???? That's on another video on here - all the cars I've ever owned, part 1 daily drivers
@ravendark24222 күн бұрын
My dad had a Chrysler Alpine which hated puddles as it conked out if it went through one and a Talbot Horizon, can’t remember it giving him any bother.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
a 'reliable' brand of car will mean 90%+ of owners have no problems. An 'unreliable' brand of car only 60% of owners have no problems - so for those in the 60% bracket they were good cars. All good fun memories anyway. Thanks for watching
@patmays73442 күн бұрын
I would love an Alpine. Seems like a good roomy car.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
incredibly rare now - I think most have rotted away. There is currently a Talbot Alpine (the face lift after the rebadge) for sale on Car and Classic
@patmays73442 күн бұрын
You didn’t own a Maserati race car? Surely not?
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
sadly no :)
@jeffking41762 күн бұрын
You talk about the wheel coming off, reminds me of the day mom decided to get another car. It was 1967. [ I was 6 ]. When my dad died, mom kept his car. A 1959 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale. It was falling apart, very rusty - hubcaps long gone, paint was pretty shot. Front passenger window could not be rolled all the way up, or it would just drop all the way down. SO, we were driving down the Interstate, it was raining. Mom turned the wipers on High, well the entire passenger wiper - arm and all just flew off. I said “mom, the wiper flew off❗️”. She said, “ I know. I hit the car behind us - but I’m not stopping.” It was then , she said later, that she knew it was time for a new car. She bought one from an Engineer at the tv station she worked at. A 1964 Chevy Malibu SS convertible. Light yellow, with black top and interior. Quite a cool car. 🚗🙂
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
great memories - thanks for sharing - the Malibu SS was a very very cool car!!
@UberLummoxКүн бұрын
The "Delta 88 Royal" didn't exist in '59. All that was available then was just the 88 & the 98 for Olds. There was however the Dynamic 88 & the Super 88. Cool car!!! Or maybe you meant '69?
@jeffking41762 күн бұрын
Great memories. 🚗🙂
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
Thanks
@alcorfield11572 күн бұрын
... Will you be at Festival of the Unexceptional ??? ... 70s 80s motoring heaven ! ❤
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
I will sir - bought the tickets ages ago. And we will be in something truly unexceptional that we've just bought and hasn't featured yet on this channel. If you're there come and say hi. Otherwise look out for the many videos I'll be posting of the event (and our extra car)
@zaphodbeeblebrox66272 күн бұрын
LLG205T was around until 1992. The last tax disc expired 1st October 1992, so presumably it was scrapped after that date. MUD500W was re-issued( transferred) to a blue Fiat Croma 1stAugust 1986.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
yes - we're lucky with the info available to use through DVLA online these days - it's very useful. I've run these and many I've owned through the system to see -
@paultaylor70822 күн бұрын
The Viva HC was made between September 1970 and October 1979. It was then replaced by the Mark I Astra, fwd, transverse engined hatchback. By this time, most small and medium sized cars had gone this way, although the Astra was the first Vauxhall model to be fwd.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
The Viva must have seemed very very old by 79. The Astra was a massive leap forward
@markoparviainen772 күн бұрын
Here was Wauxhall,well.And well,and we have in Finland in winter - 30 degrees
@OldCarsNewVanКүн бұрын
@@markoparviainen77 ouch - cold🥶
@paultaylor70822 күн бұрын
The Alpine had old, noisy ohv Simca engines and a rubbery gear change. European Car of the year (1977), but they never sold particularly well in the UK, they were up against the Cortina and Escort, the two best sellers of the era in the UK.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
indeed - I think they sold on price - a larger car for the price of a much smaller car from Ford etc
@Lar3082 күн бұрын
I have a 1972 V8 P6 Tobacco / brown vinyl roof with tan leather and et headrests front and back. That looks like a smashing example congrats. Our family doctor used to always drive P6 2000's in the 60's and he often did house calls to our house. I would immediately go outside to admire his p6. Sad thing is he ended his days driving a Nissan sentra - said he could no longer afford the Irish road tax for big cars.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
gotta love a V8 - smashing cars
@Lar3082 күн бұрын
Your family must have been well off to have had both parents own a car - wasn't even a done thing for the middle classes back then. We had no car at all until 1974 when my dad bought a Mini 850 that had obviously got a smack in the rear at some stage because the boot lid was all hammered back out. I nearly died of shame travelling in that car. I used to live in an area with a few country farm guest houses and (this is late 60's) sometimes there would be so many guests they would have to park their cars on the roadside. I used to enviously explore the nice new UK reg cars and still recall a white Mk II cortina that I thought looked magical. It was all beetles, morris minors, mini's, austin A40's and 1100's around where I lived so a new Mk II Cortina looked pretty exotic.
@OldCarsNewVan2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Both mum & dad needed cars for their work - even in the 70's they each did 20,000 miles pa so very much necessity tools. That said they were pretty ordinary cars
@matthewc.4193 күн бұрын
My father's car i 1st remember was a mk3 cortina , iv got pic's of it my father hand painted it, i still rememberthe smell , he also had a Toyota Hiace van to transport work staff , my uncle had a mk1 capri 1.6 at same time , my grandfather had a sumbeam rapier Next my father had a 1275 GT went like stink , next a 17.50HL Maxi !!!! 5 gears !!!!! At same time my mother had a 850 mini , then father replaced it with a 15.00 Allegro , my mum hated it and got another mini straight away !!!!!! Then my father got a mk3 combi escort van 1.3 cvh !!!!!🙈 took us to spain n back , then again in a mk4 leanburn engine My mk3 escort was 1st car was a deathtrap , but id well love it back now !!! Shells alone are worth 10k !!! My auntie n uncle swore by lada rivas , My grandfather had a hillman hunter estate , then a Triumph Acclaim , proper nippy liitle car My uncle now has 2 vaxhaull senators !!! A kit cobra his wife has a mk2 Toyota MR2 , and a Triumph TR5 ...........
@marksmith48623 күн бұрын
My mother had the same Viva (like your mother's second model) memorable for the plastic seats we used to stick to in the summer!
@OldCarsNewVan3 күн бұрын
Oh yes - memories of the 70's as a kid in shorts sticking to those seats - character building!!!!!
@trickygoose23 күн бұрын
The seats in our Viva were not only vinyl but black.
@OldCarsNewVan3 күн бұрын
@@trickygoose2 ouch - at least ours were sort of caramel beige in colour - not as hot as black!
@mikecawood3 күн бұрын
I once had a Talbot Horizon. You name it, it had gone wrong on it. A really terrible car.
@OldCarsNewVan3 күн бұрын
they weren't the best even by 70's standards. Funny though that my Dad's Alpines of the same vintage were totally reliable
@philperry20703 күн бұрын
Hi. That was a smashing nostalgic look back at your family and friends cars I to have memories of past family cars thanks for sharing.
@OldCarsNewVan3 күн бұрын
Many thanks - that's what I love about old cars, the memories and nostalgia and sharing with others. That's really why my wife & I started this channel - so cheers for the positive comments
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Is this crazy or brilliant?! Don't know 😂 but wow a rare car indeed, great hearing about its history and seeing inside, the boot interior I just can't get over in a 35-year-old car! ❤❤
Cheers Mel - and thanks for all your support on this channel. Mike & Maia 🥰🥰
No Ford Escorts!
my parents weren't that cool🤣
I had to maintain a fleet of Chrysler/Talbot Alpines, they were absolutely terrible! Trim fell off regularly and I particularly remember one that put a piston through the engine block at just 5,000 miles 🤬Much to my relief the company changed the fleet to Fords.
Oh dear - sounds a nightmare. Think my Dad got away with his. Of course it's all down to statistics - a really reliable brand will have 95% of it's customers enjoying totally trouble free motoring. A really unreliable brand will only have (I'm plucking these numbers out of the air to make the point) 50% of it's customers enjoying trouble free motoring - Dad must have been in the lucky 50% 🤣 Thanks for watching
Great work we had the alpine
all great childhood memories & nostalgia. Thanks for watching
@@OldCarsNewVan we also had an allegro briefly as a courtesy car. What a pig
@@chrisstephens6194 🤣🤣 true - what was bizarre after Dad's experience was at 17 he bought me an old Allegro as my first car 😂😔 ffs - why that out of any car 🙄Still, today it would draw a crowd at a classic car show 🥴
@OldCarsNewVan my dad went through cars like anything, lancia beta,vauxhall Victor,we had a big burgundy 7 series, a couple of dodgy xj6s, a cream coloured 518,a pale blue 2000E mk3 cortina an Austin Maxi...... all in no particular order
@@chrisstephens6194 more like me than my dad 🤣
About the only things that didn't, very quickly, rust rust away on the Talbot/Chrysler Alpine were the tyres.
🤣🤣🤣funnily enough, I don't remember Dad's 2 rusting at all - but then they were new (ish). The really rusty car he had was the Austin Princess
I had an Alpine and it was really a decent car, roomy, practical and fast, it had the usual hatch rust but it was so good I bought a new hatch and painted it and fitted it. I eventually gave it to my brother in law but her wrote it off on a motorway down south somewhere.
it's amazing how much nostalgia the Alpines have generated. As I say, my Dad had no problem with them - they proved reliable. My Mum's Horizon on the same vintage was a poor car - but it could have been just an unlucky example.
Love what he’s done with it
it's fun - and goes like stink. We particularly like the message on the centre console 🤣🤣🤣
Amazing to see the actual car in real life 😍
it's certainly striking
I had a red Chrysler Alpine. Very nice interior and plenty of room with beige cloth seats. I liked the car (WFN 224T). Rust got her in the end, especially over the big square headlights. The gear box travel was immense...like having a gear leaver in a bucket.
someone else on here recalls their Dad's gear changing as if his hand was going through the dashboard, such was the length of travel🤣
Your story mirrors mine (rather, my father's) in ways that are uncanny. I too was born in 69 (September) but my father didn't apply for a car licence until 75. He too, like yours it seems, wasn't a car person and never bought *(never)* a new car. His first car he bought was from a car dealer that _should have been_ a family friend. He was a friend of money instead and sold my gather a FAT 850 Coupé... with its engine head gasket fried. My father made it repair but that car was up to the very last day we had it an overheat problem. My father, God rest him, was not a car person. I reiterate it because in changing car he went to the same solemn bastard that fleeced him before. He never could explain me why while he lived. And this, the solemn bastard, with the excuse that it was an economical car under the gasoline consumption, gave him (fortunately only lent him it for a while to check it out) a NSU Prinz _that was older than the 850 my father just got rid of._ What to say about that Prinz... once, maybe because the tires or something, on a mountain road it decided that it would have been a nice idea to put itself astride the road in a sideslip my father (that always was a conscious driver) did not start nor want. Lucky that road had at the time no traffic. Then, in 77, when we went renting a house for the summer vacation at about 200Km from home it got the brilliant idea that it would have been funny for one of the motor mounts to shatter. The engine canted on a side and only first and second gear could be selected. Now imagine travelling 200Km in second gear in a Prinz to return home. And it was a lucky strike of sort the support that broke was that one, if it was the twin one only third and fourth gear could be used, stranding us there. Once we got home, in the following days, my father brought that green (it was green) disaster to a mechanic that if I recall correctly asked for 50.000 od old seventies Lire to change the support. In modern currency would have costed about 500€ (roughly calculated). Fed up with that disaster on wheels he brought it back to the solemn bastard and was lucky enough to find a FIAT 127 with only one year of life and 20.000Km done given in by its previous owner that needed money (for what... we'll never know). That poor 127. That poor, poor car... a martyr my father an ragged, but not because he raced in it, he never even in the highways exceeded 80Kmh, but because beside not being a car person my father (rest in peace) never developed a "care for your wheels" mindset. He made gasoline when needed, when the motor oil dipped below a given amount added more (cheap) oil, cared for the brakes' efficiency and changed tires when the tread became too thin for the law (1mm at the times). That's it. Some time before his death he recalled he made a mechanic change the oil filter ONCE only, almost assuredly because the previous one had terminally clogged. That car remained with us something like six years and crunched 128.000Km (before the odometer and the speed gauge both stopped working) and then more too. In the end, with an engine that had been in a war, structural rust that was mirrored on the body making it become from its native silver grey to roseate he disposed of it... to buy a FIAT Ritmo that was an unmitigated disaster. My father was also a believer of small engines because they drink less, and usually it's true... unless you mount them on a chassis that is too big for it to move efficiently and that beast of a car didn't go well with a 1100cc engine. Add that said chassis had the same rust problems of the 127 and the engine had electrical problems that were never identified (he even made some other solemn bastard change engine with a "new" one, burning 700.000 Italian Lire of the mid nineties and I had to help him with mother saying I gave him the money or that day would have ended up in a divorce) he belatedly decided the throw it away. Buried the Ritmo he bought a FIAT Regata, another disaster. If I remember little of it beside an elastic chassis and almost no handling is because it was stolen. Undaunted my father bought ANOTHER FIAT Regata more or less on the same level with the stolen one but that had an anti-thief alarm... that worked ONCE, the second attempt saw the car stolen too. In Naples, FIAT cars get stolen often today too, and at the time it was even worse. By then I was old enough to have a driving licence and a car of my own, a 1984 BMW 318i (that was my second car, my first one, I'm ashamed to say, was a SIMCA 1307GLS to learn the ropes of Naples driving. After all, crashing a car like that was hardly the disaster that would have been crashing a good car, not that it happened, I resold it away for a pittance because was fed up with it), and faced with my father's determination to waste further money and horrified he would buy another cesspit on wheels in the name of saving money, given I used it scarcely, gave him the other key of my car no question asked, to be used by him when (and it was often) I had no need for it. That car served us well (only two mildly serious breaks and a body respray because the original paint had worn out into a mess of different shades of blue) up 2010, when because of my sustained ignorance of needing an additive in the green gasoline not to fuck up the engine (I'm only human), and only for that because the car was otherwise spotless, I had to give it for scraps. We bought then a second hand FIAT Punto Multijet behind my mother (who never got a driving licence but had a lot of say about money expenditure) absolute veto for father wanting to buy a Matiz (because of the small engine doctrine he followed, and my mother was damn right, that thing was minuscule and had no trunk to speak of too). that in 2020 following my father's departure I inherited and still use. Your story made me reminisce. Hope I didn't annoy you. 🙂
amazing - thanks for sharing. Old cars certainly provide us with memories & nostalgia
I love this list of mediocrity, not the cars that everyone wanted, but that real people drove.
absolutely - memories & nostalgia
Those Alpines was the last straw for my mate's Dad. He had a slew of Arrows motors - I remember the last he got - but when he came to change that one, he wouldn't go near the Chryslers. I think he had a Ford before switching to Saabs.
now funnily enough my Dad's Alpines were very reliable - unlike my Mother's Chrysler Horizon from the same generation which was truly awful
@@OldCarsNewVan My mate's Dad's wasn't unreliable. But it was unrefined, less comfortable than the Arrows cars and he didn't like the look, much.
absolutely - very loud engines and a comedy gear change. I think the styling was very much Simca rather than the more traditional British Arrows cars
My dad painted his Chrysler Alpine's bumpers black, maybe he saw yours for inspiration
🤣I've had 2 others say the same about their Dad's - so so far there are 4 of us 😂😂😂
Perhaps we could set up a '#metoo' support group for son's of Dad's who painted bumpers 🤣🤣
@@OldCarsNewVan My lasting memory of that car was the unusually long gear lever, it always appeared like he would drive his cand into the dashboard. Dad also wasn't happy when I showed him you could open the drivers lock with a penny
The beige Alpine bumpers looked very grubby very quickly. Washing made no difference. My Dad also painted his matt black. Later models had black bumpers anyway so as well as looking better, painting them made the car look newer.
@@simonmarsden66 I'd forgotten the gear lever - rings a bell now you've mentioned it. Didn't know about the lock🤣
The company I worked for had one talbot alpine at our depot our vehicle inspector condemned it with 19000 miles on it was rotten with rust
Just discovered you via your comment on Old Classic Cars channel. Just watched this and its just my sort of thing, love looking at photos of older cars and the stories behind them. I have subscribed and can see I have plenty of vids to catch up on.
Thank you - and welcome! I actually met Rick at the recent Thoresby classic car show we attended in our Rover P6 and he kindly subscribed as well - which was slightly surreal as I've been watching OCC for years and this is a fairly new channel. So it's a mix on here - my wife has the mk1 mx5 so there is some JDM stuff which might not be for everyone - whilst I'm in the 70's with my P6. Plus there is a very 'unexceptional' 80s car coming to the channel soon - yet to be announced. Enjoy, and thanks again. Mike & Maia
My Dad did the exact same thing to his Alpine. He also painted the vinyl roof black, too, so it would match.......Great video!!!
Gosh - Dad's of the 70's 🤣🤣Someone else commented their dad did the same with his bumpers so that's 3 😂
Functional is good. High mileage Nissan Tiida -I love it.
My wife's friend, "Scottish Doreen" (who lived in the South of England) had a Chrysler Horizon in the early 90's. It was called "The clatterer" due to the noisy tappets they all had. We had amongst many cars, a Suzuki SC 100 GS Coupe which was called the "crabber" as someone told us it was crabbing when they were following us one day !
these old cars certainly have lots of nostalgic memories. Thanks for watching
The WHITE MARINA would have looked nice with the bumpers painted black!
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My Dad bought n repaired Cars in the 70's the MK2 Cortina was a good seller an Looker , the Allegro was a pile of Crap , Vivas were good , I had the Coupe which looked great but its 1300 Engine was Mince , the Dawn of the Japanese Cars changed everything as everything you had been Driving before hand was Crap ..The Datsun 240 was owned by a Guy I called 70s Man , He had the Moustache an Leather trousers an He painted the 240 in Black it was Gorgous , I see him now an He's as bald as a Coot..
😆 great memories - thanks for sharing
Chrysler Europe was owned by the US company until,sold to Peugeot Citroen who adopted the Talbot ( French Chrysler) name I think.
yep - spot on - parents never did have a Talbot badged one
Loved the Video and the cars. So many memories. I was Born and bred in Chester.
I still have family there - great memories
I'm a big fan of the Stag! That one looks mint.
It was nice to be fair - this video was before we had our Rover and we were thinking what to replace our VW T2 bus with. Still glad we ended up with a P6 rather than a Stag 🙂
That brought back a few memories for me !
that's what it's all about 🙂 thanks for watching
Thank god for the Jenkins’s. Horrendous childhood cars😮
pretty much 🤣🤣🤣although the irony is all of them would draw a crowd at a classic car show today
The first thing I noticed was the airy and Light interior of the Alpine
yes, cars in the 70's with their thin pillars and plenty of glass were so airy compared to modern cars.
My late father purchased a new Escort Ghia mk 2 in 1977. Nova green metallic with green velour seats.I was promised a ride out in it after we picked it up after school.But it was driven straight into the garage & after 3years had only 3000 miles on it. DVLA records it as being on a SORN as of today.A collectible car,I hope someone looks after it.
wow - that would be collectable. Thanks for watching and consider subscribing if you haven't already. Cheers
You poor unfortunate soul! (haha) 😁 That Audi seemed ok though for sure. Even the more common-ish '60s - early '70s cars here in the US of A seemed a bit more interesting. Maybe I'm being biased. Though I was very jealous of your Jaguars & many other Euro cars, our '68 Olds Delta Custom coupe w/a 455 was a stunning & very powerful car for being lower - mid-range. But after '71 or so, cars turned to $hit so we bought SAABs. From 3cyls. to V4 96s to 99s, then to 900s. Great vid!
love Saabs - it's on the list to buy one day
The E23 BMW blew my mind when I was a kid too. After the quietness & smoothness, the big wow for me was to get the blower from feet to windscreen you pressed a button. No effort of sliding a lever like you did in a Cortina.
years ahead of it's time
This was fun! Nostalgia plays such a huge part in formulating one's taste in cars. My childhood transport included things like sidevalve Morris Minors and Fords, Austin A30/5s, A40s, A55/60, Riley 1.5, Mk1 Minis, BMC 1100s, Bedford CA, etc, and a few more interesting ones like 1966 Renault 4, 12, Oval window Beetle, NSU Prinz, DAF 44/55, Pug 204. Happy daze!
amazing collection you've listed their. It's the main joy of the old cars we have on this channel - the memories! Thanks for watching & subscribe if you haven't already
Cars made anywhere during the 70’s & 80’s became rust buckets real quick
by the 80's some of them were ok
I have a 1988 Golf Mk2, 300,000+ miles and no rust.
@@Wil-nh5kz VWs in the 80's were superb 👍
Know what you mean. My dad got a brand you Chrysler Alpine as a company car, which was lovely inside with its big cloth seats compared to his previous avenger. Anyway, after just 2 years there was a square inch patch of rust on the sill. These days most cars still don’t develop any rust until they are about 15 yrs old or more.
@@markstockton6918 yep, modern cars certainly have improved in 2 big areas - safety and rust prevention. Still prefer the older cars though 🙃
My Dad had a Chrysler Alpine in Blue, R Reg and he painted the white bumpers black by hand as well 😂
No way! Dad's of the 70's hey 🤣🤣🤣
The venerable Chrysler Alpine, I bought an Alpine S XCP48R when it was 2 months old, did nearly 70k miles in that one, it was a great car
Yeah, don't remember dad having any trouble with either of his - unlike my mum's Chrysler Horizon. Must have been just a bad example
You could hear it coming from a mile away
My dad had two used to tow a caravan all over Western Europe. Then he moved onto Sierras and Mondeos.
@@jasoneldridge4738 that's true
@@johnholt890 yeah they were reliable enough - old fashioned compared to the Sierras & Mondeos of course
So nice.I have born 1968.Finnish cars were british and germany,and neiborg Saab & Volvo ,in late 1960.
And Peugeot 😅
My dad had a Datsun 510 in 1972 ,it was 1968 model ,52000 km.
Motor heatin problem in 510❤
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Thanks for watching - great childhood memories
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Indeed - after that experience why did my dad buy me one as my first car when I was 17???? That's on another video on here - all the cars I've ever owned, part 1 daily drivers
My dad had a Chrysler Alpine which hated puddles as it conked out if it went through one and a Talbot Horizon, can’t remember it giving him any bother.
a 'reliable' brand of car will mean 90%+ of owners have no problems. An 'unreliable' brand of car only 60% of owners have no problems - so for those in the 60% bracket they were good cars. All good fun memories anyway. Thanks for watching
I would love an Alpine. Seems like a good roomy car.
incredibly rare now - I think most have rotted away. There is currently a Talbot Alpine (the face lift after the rebadge) for sale on Car and Classic
You didn’t own a Maserati race car? Surely not?
sadly no :)
You talk about the wheel coming off, reminds me of the day mom decided to get another car. It was 1967. [ I was 6 ]. When my dad died, mom kept his car. A 1959 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale. It was falling apart, very rusty - hubcaps long gone, paint was pretty shot. Front passenger window could not be rolled all the way up, or it would just drop all the way down. SO, we were driving down the Interstate, it was raining. Mom turned the wipers on High, well the entire passenger wiper - arm and all just flew off. I said “mom, the wiper flew off❗️”. She said, “ I know. I hit the car behind us - but I’m not stopping.” It was then , she said later, that she knew it was time for a new car. She bought one from an Engineer at the tv station she worked at. A 1964 Chevy Malibu SS convertible. Light yellow, with black top and interior. Quite a cool car. 🚗🙂
great memories - thanks for sharing - the Malibu SS was a very very cool car!!
The "Delta 88 Royal" didn't exist in '59. All that was available then was just the 88 & the 98 for Olds. There was however the Dynamic 88 & the Super 88. Cool car!!! Or maybe you meant '69?
Great memories. 🚗🙂
Thanks
... Will you be at Festival of the Unexceptional ??? ... 70s 80s motoring heaven ! ❤
I will sir - bought the tickets ages ago. And we will be in something truly unexceptional that we've just bought and hasn't featured yet on this channel. If you're there come and say hi. Otherwise look out for the many videos I'll be posting of the event (and our extra car)
LLG205T was around until 1992. The last tax disc expired 1st October 1992, so presumably it was scrapped after that date. MUD500W was re-issued( transferred) to a blue Fiat Croma 1stAugust 1986.
yes - we're lucky with the info available to use through DVLA online these days - it's very useful. I've run these and many I've owned through the system to see -
The Viva HC was made between September 1970 and October 1979. It was then replaced by the Mark I Astra, fwd, transverse engined hatchback. By this time, most small and medium sized cars had gone this way, although the Astra was the first Vauxhall model to be fwd.
The Viva must have seemed very very old by 79. The Astra was a massive leap forward
Here was Wauxhall,well.And well,and we have in Finland in winter - 30 degrees
@@markoparviainen77 ouch - cold🥶
The Alpine had old, noisy ohv Simca engines and a rubbery gear change. European Car of the year (1977), but they never sold particularly well in the UK, they were up against the Cortina and Escort, the two best sellers of the era in the UK.
indeed - I think they sold on price - a larger car for the price of a much smaller car from Ford etc
I have a 1972 V8 P6 Tobacco / brown vinyl roof with tan leather and et headrests front and back. That looks like a smashing example congrats. Our family doctor used to always drive P6 2000's in the 60's and he often did house calls to our house. I would immediately go outside to admire his p6. Sad thing is he ended his days driving a Nissan sentra - said he could no longer afford the Irish road tax for big cars.
gotta love a V8 - smashing cars
Your family must have been well off to have had both parents own a car - wasn't even a done thing for the middle classes back then. We had no car at all until 1974 when my dad bought a Mini 850 that had obviously got a smack in the rear at some stage because the boot lid was all hammered back out. I nearly died of shame travelling in that car. I used to live in an area with a few country farm guest houses and (this is late 60's) sometimes there would be so many guests they would have to park their cars on the roadside. I used to enviously explore the nice new UK reg cars and still recall a white Mk II cortina that I thought looked magical. It was all beetles, morris minors, mini's, austin A40's and 1100's around where I lived so a new Mk II Cortina looked pretty exotic.
Thanks for watching. Both mum & dad needed cars for their work - even in the 70's they each did 20,000 miles pa so very much necessity tools. That said they were pretty ordinary cars
My father's car i 1st remember was a mk3 cortina , iv got pic's of it my father hand painted it, i still rememberthe smell , he also had a Toyota Hiace van to transport work staff , my uncle had a mk1 capri 1.6 at same time , my grandfather had a sumbeam rapier Next my father had a 1275 GT went like stink , next a 17.50HL Maxi !!!! 5 gears !!!!! At same time my mother had a 850 mini , then father replaced it with a 15.00 Allegro , my mum hated it and got another mini straight away !!!!!! Then my father got a mk3 combi escort van 1.3 cvh !!!!!🙈 took us to spain n back , then again in a mk4 leanburn engine My mk3 escort was 1st car was a deathtrap , but id well love it back now !!! Shells alone are worth 10k !!! My auntie n uncle swore by lada rivas , My grandfather had a hillman hunter estate , then a Triumph Acclaim , proper nippy liitle car My uncle now has 2 vaxhaull senators !!! A kit cobra his wife has a mk2 Toyota MR2 , and a Triumph TR5 ...........
My mother had the same Viva (like your mother's second model) memorable for the plastic seats we used to stick to in the summer!
Oh yes - memories of the 70's as a kid in shorts sticking to those seats - character building!!!!!
The seats in our Viva were not only vinyl but black.
@@trickygoose2 ouch - at least ours were sort of caramel beige in colour - not as hot as black!
I once had a Talbot Horizon. You name it, it had gone wrong on it. A really terrible car.
they weren't the best even by 70's standards. Funny though that my Dad's Alpines of the same vintage were totally reliable
Hi. That was a smashing nostalgic look back at your family and friends cars I to have memories of past family cars thanks for sharing.
Many thanks - that's what I love about old cars, the memories and nostalgia and sharing with others. That's really why my wife & I started this channel - so cheers for the positive comments