The only piece of gear I wouldn't cut costs on is the sleeping pad. A good warm sleeping pad can make a lousy sleeping bag work well.
@jasonalden2788Күн бұрын
Yeah this is spot on. The R value and function of a sleeping pad is really underrated. Every time I take a beginner out camping I make sure to get them on a great pad. This is the biggest difference maker on them wanting to go back out!
@clintonforney2374Күн бұрын
@@jasonalden2788 in my opinion if you have a chance to spend $200 on your sleeping pad do it.
@AlexHatlevigКүн бұрын
Yeah I agree. A good sleeping system makes one hell of a difference. Getting a good nights rest makes everything more enjoyable!
@checkmate716Күн бұрын
This is super helpful. I camped for the first time a few weeks ago, and now I really want to get into backpacking. Thanks!
@AlexHatlevigКүн бұрын
That’s great! I hope you enjoy it and if you need any advice, feel free to ask! I’m glad you enjoyed my video!
@BirdknowsbestКүн бұрын
2nd!
@JLu20Күн бұрын
👍excellent choice of good budget gear swap-outs💯
@AlexHatlevigКүн бұрын
Thank you!
@olegpetelevitch44433 күн бұрын
Top stuff ! Thank you !
@seankusmc1636 күн бұрын
I really like the tent as well. Can you tell me the model? Thank you
@AlexHatlevig6 күн бұрын
That was the NEMO Aurora Highrise 4 person. It’s awesome!
@suzannefane69798 күн бұрын
I bought a Baerskin hoodie and I really like it, it's a solid piece of clothing. Delivery time was exactly precisely as advised, and the hoodie was very well packaged.
@adk_702310 күн бұрын
How's the longevity of the table?
@AlexHatlevig10 күн бұрын
It’s good! I use it on almost every camping trip and just used it this past weekend. I still haven’t had any issues
@ssheldon304212 күн бұрын
Love the porkies, did three days in "22" it was amazing...
@AlexHatlevig10 күн бұрын
It’s a great place!
@MoonbeameSmith13 күн бұрын
Who uses a 2 person tent for two people? :)
@AlexHatlevig9 күн бұрын
🤗🤗🤗 tbh I am looking to get a 3p for me and my girlfriend. It gets pretty cramped! lol
@olivern478413 күн бұрын
REI has the REI Helix Insulated Air Sleeping Pad (R 4.9) for $119. Fourth of July Sale PS The Long Wide is the same price as the regular.
@danoesq217 күн бұрын
I might get that to replace my Thermostat. Backpacking pads have come a long way since my old Ensolite pad, but that thing was damn reliable.
@AlexHatlevig16 күн бұрын
I just had to look up an Ensolite pad. They definitely have come a long way! haha
@danoesq217 күн бұрын
Just got one and there's a square black taped area on the back of the unit. I'm guessing those are drainage holes?
@meridianmoreno372318 күн бұрын
Unfortunately its ali express stuff marked up
@nivid0119 күн бұрын
You need to get a haircut and have a shave and/or wash your hair, AND have a shave. You look a mess buddy!
@papabits572121 күн бұрын
Always use pay pal when dealing with Chinese companies
@papabits572121 күн бұрын
Buy on sale only
@nancyharris229821 күн бұрын
Great video! Which site were you in 2nd night? I'm planning my 2nd trip there for this Aug.
@AlexHatlevig21 күн бұрын
Thanks! I can’t remember exactly what site number but I think it was the Western most site on Lake Superior
@russw182925 күн бұрын
What’s that thing you put in a toaster other than bread? Bāg. On Wisconsin.
@pamelaklemp561526 күн бұрын
BTW, the key to making eggs in the 2 pot system is getting your water to a firm rolling boil in the bottom one... then a little oil in the smaller top to one... take it off of the stove and "steam" fry your eggs. The longer handles make it easier to do actual cooking in it and for eating from it. I've been camping, boating, backpacking, hiking for 50 years... and yes 👍, I do cooking in that 2 pot kit oftentimes.
@AlexHatlevig16 күн бұрын
I'll have to try that out sometime!
@pamelaklemp561526 күн бұрын
I own both styles of cook sets. The 2 pot set is basically a self contained cooking system that I use for making more of a meal in rather than a water boiler. The 1 pot w/Lid is basically limited to being a single purpose water boiler/ or cup of soup pot. I like the smaller set for a day hike, park outing trips, etc., as it fits in a jacket pocket or sling bag. The larger set is very backpack friendly and is way more versatile for multi day cooking. Both are great for a quick cuppa anytime.
@DonReality27 күн бұрын
Based in UK and ordered mine on June 2nd, received just yesterday on the 12th. Absolutely love this!!!! Can't express how comfort and warm it is.
@tiuvarta27 күн бұрын
I have the same amazon pot. When I purchased it it came with a stove, which I still have and it's been going on strongly for over 6 years now, a set of silverware, a carrying bag, a large stainless coffee mug with silicone holder (which I don't use since it's overkill). in it I keep a solo stove mini, the stove, a fuel base, and a lighter. Since we can't fly with fuel we opt to carry it separately. I though about upgrading to a toaks but im already used to extra weight it it doesn't bother me, plus this thing was fallen from all sorts of places and heights and it has 0 (ZERO!) dents. Also, I think the volume is 1,200ml TOTAL, with pot plus lid. It is so funny to see this review today, I just went through the same idea not even 1 month ago. And even with my 35% discount on the Toaks the price and material did not really seemed more beneficial to me... Great video.
@AlexHatlevig20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the insight! Those Amazon cook pots definitely hold up and are pretty indestructible lol. Like I said, I used mine for about 5 years. Over time, I realized I didn't need the large volume that is the Amazon pot so I figured it was time to try the TOAKS pot. I'm glad the Amazon one works well for you though! Thanks for watching my video
@NorthernMIPathfinder28 күн бұрын
Here is my take on the set-ups... I have a Tomshoo titanium ki,t like the Toaks that has worked great over the years. I also have the Amazon one that has been my go to (until I got the Trangia 28T Mini! Now, I have been solely using that with the Trangia Triangle an a gas burner for about 6 years). Reason being, I like having coffee WITH my breakfast, not AFTER my breakfast, so the "lid" (as you call it) is a great cup to have coffee in while I use the "pot" to eat my oatmeal or scrambled eggs, or whatever in. While we are on that topic of eggs in the camp kits... Yes, it can be done, I have done it for decades.... Just don't turn your camp stove up to "jet blast mode" (learn to "cook" on your stove rather than just boil water, it is a game changer. Yes, the extravagant meals they show in those pics are ridiculous, but you don't need to eat out of a bag full of chemically treated food either. You can "cook" some great stuff while hiking! Either way, I think it was a great review! But I also feel you were missing afew points about the amazon product that you just can not duplicate with the other. But as you said, you are basically just boiling water. I have yet to see many trail "cooks" :) I may have to subscribe to see what else you got 👍
@AlexHatlevig27 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the info and I'm happy you liked my video! I looked up the products that you mentioned and those look like some quality items. I've never used an alcohol stove but I have always been interested in those. Having coffee with breakfast would be nice haha but usually I can get my breakfast cooked while my coffee is cooling down. I've gotten in the habit of making my own dehydrated and vacuum sealed food so I can avoid chemically treated meals. That way I still have a pretty awesome breakfast and dinner while on the trail! And all i need is a cup of boiled water. However, I'm not opposed to try actually cooking on the trail. I just know I won't want to put lots of effort into cooking after hiking all day. Thanks for watching and for your insight!
@WorldWideWub28 күн бұрын
Great review, straight to the point with no fluff or yap.
@AlexHatlevig28 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it
@JLu2029 күн бұрын
Great product review! Thank you👍
@AlexHatlevig29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@joshsleezetube29 күн бұрын
amazon gets a bad wrap on some of its products but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough on there.
@AlexHatlevig29 күн бұрын
I agree! Teton Sports is a brand of backpacking gear sold on Amazon. They are inexpensive products and fantastic for beginners on a budget!
@snickeas129 күн бұрын
the hood peak I think is for those who wear glasses to help keey rain drops off the lenses. I used to use my baseball cap for that purpose when working outside in the rain.
@AlexHatlevig27 күн бұрын
Good to know, thanks!
@irvwander8756Ай бұрын
Scam
@MrBlessed70Ай бұрын
Anyone have any experience with The BÆRSkin Softshell Jacket?
@AlexHatlevig27 күн бұрын
I have and (while I may be a bit biased) it's pretty sweet. The fleece lining is nice, but you will still need layers underneath if its very cold out. The water repellant works great and will definitely keep the rain off you. It is not lightweight and also doesn't pack down super small. But it will fit nicely inside a daypack. I just wouldn't bring it backpacking. It's also definitely more for Fall and early spring because it is warmer with the fleece lining
@MrBlessed7027 күн бұрын
@@AlexHatlevig Thanks so much Alex!!!!
@AlexHatlevig27 күн бұрын
@@MrBlessed70 my pleasure!
@El-JefeАй бұрын
I ordered one the pad leaks air even when you aren't on it, it's pretty much flat within two hours of inflating it.
@adamandlorraine27 күн бұрын
Thanks. My current Klymit pad leaks through tons of micro holes all over it. So I am looking for a non leaky one! Haven't seen any real user reviews yet of the kilosgear. Only affiliated or free product reviews
@El-Jefe27 күн бұрын
@@adamandlorraine mine literally doesn't even try to stay inflated even without me sitting on it, so I don't think it's a micro hole, in another comment here the commenter says he's had to repair his 3 times already because of leaks in the welds. All these pad video's came at the same time (with the paid review disclaimer) and I've noticed this week suddenly the kilosgear chair is the best chair reviewers have ever used. Make of that what you will, but I think this Chinese company posing as a NY based company might be being generous with their marketing budget.
@Marcus_TAZ_DavisАй бұрын
Great video thank you for making it. I think it would be safest to set up the system and use a 3rd bucket or container to fill the gray water bucket and not dip the clean water side of the filter in a contaminated water source.
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! That is a good point and makes a lot of sense. I think in the future I would do that
@keithjones7648Ай бұрын
Have a bearskin hoodie 3.0 love it want to buy a coat what's the best waterproof coat they make
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
I'm glad you like it! Their new HeavyStorm Rain Jacket is a great option for something lightweight and packable. Their Softshell Rain Jacket is fleece lined and a nice option for something heavier and warmer.
@BoomsRiddico4868Ай бұрын
can't believe you can say anything good about this cheaply made Chinese rubbish! If you want a cheap fleece that cost about 2 dollars to make why dont you just buy from the source? China? They have multiple eBay style Chinese sites and you will pay maybe a few dollar more (10 dollars) for the exact same product!! It's just fleece my friend!! it aint some expensive made tech like gortex! (which is good and American). And they have a new soft-shell which they claim is waterproof when all they have done is spray it with a dwr that lasts a few weeks and anyone can replicate with an off the shelf spray can. You must be a paid scam reviewer or dumb! which is it?
@TheFairway8Ай бұрын
Absolutely appalling customer service sent 4 emails about my order not had a single response. I would avoid this company
@renecharlesritchieАй бұрын
I also bought that mini electric pump. Laughed pretty hard when you brought that out. Thank you for the how to 🙏🏼
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
That’s awesome haha my pleasure!
@endmp25Ай бұрын
Should just remove the sock and made them into slip ons. Water proof, dries quicker, lighter and not $50
@yorkshireteaman4267Ай бұрын
I live in the UK so of course the zip was on the wrong side this was never mentioned the ad showed it on the left and of course when it came it was on the right not good
@spencermusselman4292Ай бұрын
Can you put this up with one person?
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
Yeah, but it can be a challenge if you are shorter. I’m 5’10” and can set it up just fine
@camouflage962Ай бұрын
Big Agnes... Happy Betty....
@alextabata8281Ай бұрын
How does it stand up in wind?
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
I’ve used it during storms and it’s held up just fine. I haven’t had any issues in higher winds
@vinnyfaxx9267Ай бұрын
You did miss one thing: This is NOT an ASTM rated pad. Their claim of 5.0 r-value is just that... a claim. This isn't some minor issue either - a cold pad could be the difference between living and dying if you're on the edge of hypothermia. I find their claim deceptive, at least until they decide to produce evidence of an ASTM rating.
@LeonKocherАй бұрын
Is the R value astm rated?
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
On their website it says ASTM F3340-18 tested
@LeonKocherАй бұрын
@@AlexHatlevig I looked at the website and couldn't find anything about astm testing. Made me skeptical.
@AlexHatlevigАй бұрын
@@LeonKocher Understandable! I saw a small badge on one of the photos on their website with the ASTM rating
@LeonKocherАй бұрын
@@AlexHatlevig I didn't even see that. I watched the video and he stated that. Since they can make up a rating I like to see the astm rating. Not a bad pad. I'm looking and have been eying the REI Helix Insulated or the OV Oblivion.
@MoffatmountainadventuresАй бұрын
I’ve had this pad for about 2 months. 2 things I’d say. It’s never a 5r. You can literally see through the thing. The second and that’s the big flaw, I’ve already had to patch it 3 times due to tiny holes developing in the welds on the holes on the top. It is comfy and it is exactly the same size as the sea to summit Etherlight XT large that I also have.
@El-JefeАй бұрын
Ordered one a few days ago wish I had seen your comment first. Are you still having issues with it? Roughly what sort of temperatures do you think it would be comfortable down to?
@nicolekesselring3398Ай бұрын
@@El-Jefeupdate us when you get it
@El-JefeАй бұрын
@@nicolekesselring3398 will do 🙂
@El-JefeАй бұрын
@@nicolekesselring3398 Update I just got mine a few hours ago pumped it up put it in my spare room and it's already lost half the air in it.
@El-JefeАй бұрын
mine leaks too this pad does not hold air.
@Joshr13047Ай бұрын
it just looks like a lite version of the q core delux
@11superstar1997Ай бұрын
Exped Megamat Duo is the same thing. Highly recommend
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Hello, what is the average weight you carry?
The only piece of gear I wouldn't cut costs on is the sleeping pad. A good warm sleeping pad can make a lousy sleeping bag work well.
Yeah this is spot on. The R value and function of a sleeping pad is really underrated. Every time I take a beginner out camping I make sure to get them on a great pad. This is the biggest difference maker on them wanting to go back out!
@@jasonalden2788 in my opinion if you have a chance to spend $200 on your sleeping pad do it.
Yeah I agree. A good sleeping system makes one hell of a difference. Getting a good nights rest makes everything more enjoyable!
This is super helpful. I camped for the first time a few weeks ago, and now I really want to get into backpacking. Thanks!
That’s great! I hope you enjoy it and if you need any advice, feel free to ask! I’m glad you enjoyed my video!
2nd!
👍excellent choice of good budget gear swap-outs💯
Thank you!
Top stuff ! Thank you !
I really like the tent as well. Can you tell me the model? Thank you
That was the NEMO Aurora Highrise 4 person. It’s awesome!
I bought a Baerskin hoodie and I really like it, it's a solid piece of clothing. Delivery time was exactly precisely as advised, and the hoodie was very well packaged.
How's the longevity of the table?
It’s good! I use it on almost every camping trip and just used it this past weekend. I still haven’t had any issues
Love the porkies, did three days in "22" it was amazing...
It’s a great place!
Who uses a 2 person tent for two people? :)
🤗🤗🤗 tbh I am looking to get a 3p for me and my girlfriend. It gets pretty cramped! lol
REI has the REI Helix Insulated Air Sleeping Pad (R 4.9) for $119. Fourth of July Sale PS The Long Wide is the same price as the regular.
I might get that to replace my Thermostat. Backpacking pads have come a long way since my old Ensolite pad, but that thing was damn reliable.
I just had to look up an Ensolite pad. They definitely have come a long way! haha
Just got one and there's a square black taped area on the back of the unit. I'm guessing those are drainage holes?
Unfortunately its ali express stuff marked up
You need to get a haircut and have a shave and/or wash your hair, AND have a shave. You look a mess buddy!
Always use pay pal when dealing with Chinese companies
Buy on sale only
Great video! Which site were you in 2nd night? I'm planning my 2nd trip there for this Aug.
Thanks! I can’t remember exactly what site number but I think it was the Western most site on Lake Superior
What’s that thing you put in a toaster other than bread? Bāg. On Wisconsin.
BTW, the key to making eggs in the 2 pot system is getting your water to a firm rolling boil in the bottom one... then a little oil in the smaller top to one... take it off of the stove and "steam" fry your eggs. The longer handles make it easier to do actual cooking in it and for eating from it. I've been camping, boating, backpacking, hiking for 50 years... and yes 👍, I do cooking in that 2 pot kit oftentimes.
I'll have to try that out sometime!
I own both styles of cook sets. The 2 pot set is basically a self contained cooking system that I use for making more of a meal in rather than a water boiler. The 1 pot w/Lid is basically limited to being a single purpose water boiler/ or cup of soup pot. I like the smaller set for a day hike, park outing trips, etc., as it fits in a jacket pocket or sling bag. The larger set is very backpack friendly and is way more versatile for multi day cooking. Both are great for a quick cuppa anytime.
Based in UK and ordered mine on June 2nd, received just yesterday on the 12th. Absolutely love this!!!! Can't express how comfort and warm it is.
I have the same amazon pot. When I purchased it it came with a stove, which I still have and it's been going on strongly for over 6 years now, a set of silverware, a carrying bag, a large stainless coffee mug with silicone holder (which I don't use since it's overkill). in it I keep a solo stove mini, the stove, a fuel base, and a lighter. Since we can't fly with fuel we opt to carry it separately. I though about upgrading to a toaks but im already used to extra weight it it doesn't bother me, plus this thing was fallen from all sorts of places and heights and it has 0 (ZERO!) dents. Also, I think the volume is 1,200ml TOTAL, with pot plus lid. It is so funny to see this review today, I just went through the same idea not even 1 month ago. And even with my 35% discount on the Toaks the price and material did not really seemed more beneficial to me... Great video.
Thanks for the insight! Those Amazon cook pots definitely hold up and are pretty indestructible lol. Like I said, I used mine for about 5 years. Over time, I realized I didn't need the large volume that is the Amazon pot so I figured it was time to try the TOAKS pot. I'm glad the Amazon one works well for you though! Thanks for watching my video
Here is my take on the set-ups... I have a Tomshoo titanium ki,t like the Toaks that has worked great over the years. I also have the Amazon one that has been my go to (until I got the Trangia 28T Mini! Now, I have been solely using that with the Trangia Triangle an a gas burner for about 6 years). Reason being, I like having coffee WITH my breakfast, not AFTER my breakfast, so the "lid" (as you call it) is a great cup to have coffee in while I use the "pot" to eat my oatmeal or scrambled eggs, or whatever in. While we are on that topic of eggs in the camp kits... Yes, it can be done, I have done it for decades.... Just don't turn your camp stove up to "jet blast mode" (learn to "cook" on your stove rather than just boil water, it is a game changer. Yes, the extravagant meals they show in those pics are ridiculous, but you don't need to eat out of a bag full of chemically treated food either. You can "cook" some great stuff while hiking! Either way, I think it was a great review! But I also feel you were missing afew points about the amazon product that you just can not duplicate with the other. But as you said, you are basically just boiling water. I have yet to see many trail "cooks" :) I may have to subscribe to see what else you got 👍
Thanks for all the info and I'm happy you liked my video! I looked up the products that you mentioned and those look like some quality items. I've never used an alcohol stove but I have always been interested in those. Having coffee with breakfast would be nice haha but usually I can get my breakfast cooked while my coffee is cooling down. I've gotten in the habit of making my own dehydrated and vacuum sealed food so I can avoid chemically treated meals. That way I still have a pretty awesome breakfast and dinner while on the trail! And all i need is a cup of boiled water. However, I'm not opposed to try actually cooking on the trail. I just know I won't want to put lots of effort into cooking after hiking all day. Thanks for watching and for your insight!
Great review, straight to the point with no fluff or yap.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it
Great product review! Thank you👍
Thanks for watching!
amazon gets a bad wrap on some of its products but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough on there.
I agree! Teton Sports is a brand of backpacking gear sold on Amazon. They are inexpensive products and fantastic for beginners on a budget!
the hood peak I think is for those who wear glasses to help keey rain drops off the lenses. I used to use my baseball cap for that purpose when working outside in the rain.
Good to know, thanks!
Scam
Anyone have any experience with The BÆRSkin Softshell Jacket?
I have and (while I may be a bit biased) it's pretty sweet. The fleece lining is nice, but you will still need layers underneath if its very cold out. The water repellant works great and will definitely keep the rain off you. It is not lightweight and also doesn't pack down super small. But it will fit nicely inside a daypack. I just wouldn't bring it backpacking. It's also definitely more for Fall and early spring because it is warmer with the fleece lining
@@AlexHatlevig Thanks so much Alex!!!!
@@MrBlessed70 my pleasure!
I ordered one the pad leaks air even when you aren't on it, it's pretty much flat within two hours of inflating it.
Thanks. My current Klymit pad leaks through tons of micro holes all over it. So I am looking for a non leaky one! Haven't seen any real user reviews yet of the kilosgear. Only affiliated or free product reviews
@@adamandlorraine mine literally doesn't even try to stay inflated even without me sitting on it, so I don't think it's a micro hole, in another comment here the commenter says he's had to repair his 3 times already because of leaks in the welds. All these pad video's came at the same time (with the paid review disclaimer) and I've noticed this week suddenly the kilosgear chair is the best chair reviewers have ever used. Make of that what you will, but I think this Chinese company posing as a NY based company might be being generous with their marketing budget.
Great video thank you for making it. I think it would be safest to set up the system and use a 3rd bucket or container to fill the gray water bucket and not dip the clean water side of the filter in a contaminated water source.
I'm glad you liked it! That is a good point and makes a lot of sense. I think in the future I would do that
Have a bearskin hoodie 3.0 love it want to buy a coat what's the best waterproof coat they make
I'm glad you like it! Their new HeavyStorm Rain Jacket is a great option for something lightweight and packable. Their Softshell Rain Jacket is fleece lined and a nice option for something heavier and warmer.
can't believe you can say anything good about this cheaply made Chinese rubbish! If you want a cheap fleece that cost about 2 dollars to make why dont you just buy from the source? China? They have multiple eBay style Chinese sites and you will pay maybe a few dollar more (10 dollars) for the exact same product!! It's just fleece my friend!! it aint some expensive made tech like gortex! (which is good and American). And they have a new soft-shell which they claim is waterproof when all they have done is spray it with a dwr that lasts a few weeks and anyone can replicate with an off the shelf spray can. You must be a paid scam reviewer or dumb! which is it?
Absolutely appalling customer service sent 4 emails about my order not had a single response. I would avoid this company
I also bought that mini electric pump. Laughed pretty hard when you brought that out. Thank you for the how to 🙏🏼
That’s awesome haha my pleasure!
Should just remove the sock and made them into slip ons. Water proof, dries quicker, lighter and not $50
I live in the UK so of course the zip was on the wrong side this was never mentioned the ad showed it on the left and of course when it came it was on the right not good
Can you put this up with one person?
Yeah, but it can be a challenge if you are shorter. I’m 5’10” and can set it up just fine
Big Agnes... Happy Betty....
How does it stand up in wind?
I’ve used it during storms and it’s held up just fine. I haven’t had any issues in higher winds
You did miss one thing: This is NOT an ASTM rated pad. Their claim of 5.0 r-value is just that... a claim. This isn't some minor issue either - a cold pad could be the difference between living and dying if you're on the edge of hypothermia. I find their claim deceptive, at least until they decide to produce evidence of an ASTM rating.
Is the R value astm rated?
On their website it says ASTM F3340-18 tested
@@AlexHatlevig I looked at the website and couldn't find anything about astm testing. Made me skeptical.
@@LeonKocher Understandable! I saw a small badge on one of the photos on their website with the ASTM rating
@@AlexHatlevig I didn't even see that. I watched the video and he stated that. Since they can make up a rating I like to see the astm rating. Not a bad pad. I'm looking and have been eying the REI Helix Insulated or the OV Oblivion.
I’ve had this pad for about 2 months. 2 things I’d say. It’s never a 5r. You can literally see through the thing. The second and that’s the big flaw, I’ve already had to patch it 3 times due to tiny holes developing in the welds on the holes on the top. It is comfy and it is exactly the same size as the sea to summit Etherlight XT large that I also have.
Ordered one a few days ago wish I had seen your comment first. Are you still having issues with it? Roughly what sort of temperatures do you think it would be comfortable down to?
@@El-Jefeupdate us when you get it
@@nicolekesselring3398 will do 🙂
@@nicolekesselring3398 Update I just got mine a few hours ago pumped it up put it in my spare room and it's already lost half the air in it.
mine leaks too this pad does not hold air.
it just looks like a lite version of the q core delux
Exped Megamat Duo is the same thing. Highly recommend