I´m a Swedish airsofter that together with some friends progressed from being a player to making an airsoft field/club for other players. I myself play sniper, but i focus my energy on other players rather than on myself. The local airsoftclub is called "Sunne Airsoft" and most videos on this channel will be from local games.
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Blev påmind om mitt möte med er på förra årets spel. Kul att se. Kul att ni kom tillbaka. 😁 "Go Sunne Airsoft!"
The 3 man wipe of the wannabees in the beginning <3
They were nice guys, but they thought they were safe and forgot to Check their angles. We also got our asses kicked many times during the event. We arent any better than them.
@@mattiasolsson1766 Im not saying theyre not nice im saying if youre gonna go to berget as spec ops(ghillie snipers) you need to have some knowledge of how to rest as a team in the field. Also you dont walk in a ghillie suit, you put that on when its stalking time, not before. They were three men( wannabees ;) ) and all "down" before you even got there. Blir det nå berget för dig i år? / Willertz
@@mongol33t tjenare Willerts! Osäkert om det blir Berget för min del. Kom lite mindre oplanerade förhinder emellan som va omöjliga att förutspå. Men jag ska prova iaf 🙂. Hörde ni skulle dit och att ni hamnar i rätt lag 😉
@@mattiasolsson1766 Ja, klart du ska åka!
The entire video I felt as if I was watching a serial killer showing me the location of the bodies.
🤣🤣 Yeah, i guess the maps and the music gave that atmosphere 😅. The map is there to help people to see in what light & environment the unit was used. Alot of people doesnt take light-pollution from nearby cities into consideration and that part is important.
Great comparison video...thank you!
how old do you need to be to play at sunne airsoft
Usually we allow players in range of 13-15 years of age. Some 13 year olds are good at listening to rules and therefore are allowed to play. But all underage players require PERSONAL contact with the individuals parents or legal guardian. That basically means we have to meet with these people and talk about Airsoft and what it is. If we get a feeling that we arent on the same page regarding our safety-rules or what could happen, then we wont allow them to play. Underage players also need to use full cover face mask. Something that we have when renting our airsoftguns.
@@mattiasolsson1766 ok thanks
Would you say it's worth trading in an Aurora Pro for the Opsin?
Depending on what you are going to use it for, what requirements you have, what you consider being a fair price and were you live, thats hard to answer. But its FAR more useful helmetmounted compared to the Aurora Pro. The light sensitivity is shown in the video and its better but not on par with gen 2 in extreme low light under 3mLux.
You have my respect for managing to hold that 9kg sniper throughout the game.
Since i built it myself it became a must to use it 😅. I am no athlete by any means though and my back was pretty sore after that weekend 🤣
Hej
opsin is awesome, but $2600 is crackhead logic. a diy pvs-69 setup with a 980nm illuminator is like $500+ bucks for binos, $300 for monocular, and rivals the aurora pro.
Not sure a pvs 69 have as High sensitivity in the 980nm range as the Opsin. Also the Opsin have alot of functions that the PVS 69 dont. Also trying to compete against homemade analog an digital units would be impossible to a serious company. I have nothing against pvs 69 or analog though. Just think the Sionyx is getting more crap than it deserves.
why not just put the filter over the regular white light led?
Good question, LEDs doesnt work quite like halogen bulbs. They got their specific wavelenghts that they specialise in. If you look closely in the video at one point an example of this is made in a diagram. Some LEDs have double wavelenghts but im afraid these will result in less pure 980nm wavelenghts after the filter
Look at 0:56 to see how narrow a 940nm LED is. White LED work the same way.
So can you move and shoot and or run and stuff etc with the opsin like is it worth it over analog or no not yet
Depends, Since it doesnt work the same way as an analog system. The darker it gets the the more you have to lower the framerate (90-30fps). Some people have a hard time using it when the framerate goes to low. You can solve this by using an IR light in really dark environments so you dont need to go lower in fps. But then everyone else see you using a nods. The best reason to buy would be the shelf life, HUD functions, colour, recordfunctions. etc. But an analog system Gen2+ -gen3 is better in extreme low light overall. If you live in Europe like me, Sionyx may be a good option if you cant find anything else. But if you live in the US it may be better to buy an analog Gen3 since its easier to find there and for a reasonable price.
@@mattiasolsson1766 yeah I'm east coast USA gen2 + is way more of an affordable option then gen 3 and the siyonix
@@justaregularguy3827 Yeah, i mainly bought it since its something new and exciting. I was going to get a used Gen3 but this was to interesting to look past. Have great day man
Very informative and real world information! Thank you!
which camera is better for the night???
Im guessing the footage speaks for it self (Opsin). Just remember the pricedifference is huge!. Also these devices are built for different uses. The Opsin is a dedicated helmetmountable device. Its ALOT more usable for moving around. The Aurora is made for use as a handheld camera that maybe can be used for helmet navigation if you have really low standards (i have done it). But the Aurora have dedicated photo functions for photography, filming and such. One example is adjustable shuttersspeed for stills that give you better pictures than the Opsin when using it on a tripod. By setting a slow shuttersspeed you get to see even more than what the Opsin can (on picture mode that is). When using 30 - 60fps videomode the difference is is alot better on the Opsin. The Opsin also auto adjust single pixels to black & white to make the image easier on your eyes. Examples of these can be seen in my videos when using a red laser. Hope that helps to answer your question 🙂.
I see people complaining about extreme low light performance.. I just ask myself, when are you going to be in this situation?? Have you seen gen 3 nods in the same low light?? It isn't much better.. both will require an ir illuminator
I have no doubt the opsin is a vast improvement over the aurora pro, that said i have the latter and have had some yrs now,and i have been very happy with it-which i would not be if was half as bad as your video suggests lol (Am putting it down to phone camera not picking it up as well as should rather than a purposefull intention to make it seem rubbish compared to the opsin, am only mentioning as the aurora is still a v.good (and a lot cheaper) alternative to those not having the opsin price tag within their budgets -that said,am trying it at airsoft this weekend instead of a red dot sight both during day skirmishes and night ones to test out how viable is in airsoft since my red dot does not have a zoom option like the aurora :) ) Admitterdly mind i do just because i can, use an IR torch to make things clearer a lot of time...
Since i not a native English speaker i not sure i understood everything you wrote correctly. The video i made is 100% non based towards any of these units and i own them both. Im holding the units beside each other at the same time. Its a reason for why i added all the background light information in the video. Im living far away from citylights in a dense forest. Which mean poor light conditions that result in bad results with a digital sensor. The winner in low light is analog, the Opsin is a better tool for fast movement and shooting in the digital realm compared to the Aurora but will also need IR at these extreme conditions. Im not sure if you are trying to say im trying to make the Aurora look bad in comparison to the Opsin.or if its me reading you wrong. The Aurora pro is in a League of its own as its a ordinary handcamera that CAN be used as a compromise for shooting but not as effective as the Opsin (headmounted that is). Looking through the Opsin and the Aurora is very different in real life since the file compression makes the Opsin look alot worse than it is. If you watch my video "Lämmlarna at Mercs" and move to the nvg part im using the Aurora pro at an airsoftgame. Its usable and if Ir isn't an issue then its its even better. To be fair though neather of these units will work great against a decent analog if you enter the treeline of our denser forests in Sweden at these conditions. The reason i would choose the Opsin over an analog is for the future apps that may add som added value in the future (if it ever gets released). Regarding the Aurora pro and the Opsin thats another story. They have very different applications. The Opsin lack alot of dedicated camera functions the Aurora have but the lag during shooting is alot worse on the Aurora. If youre happy using the Aurora i see no reason to change to the Opsin.
Love this!
Love the video! It's nice to see that you show that being a sniper isn't easy. You need to work for your shots. It's also nice to see some action from Papa, being a CoyCo keeps me away from most of the action. It's awesome to see the teamwork in P1. Calm and thought of movements. Looking forward to next year!
Yes playing sniper on Berget is hard. Especially when the gun weighs in at 9kg 😂. But i do it for the challenge and also want to use it since it is completely homemade. Also sitting in a field beneath a deathrag let you se alot of action from a spectators view 😂. Anyway, it was really nice meeting you guys!
@@mattiasolsson1766 I liked the way you used the sniper, as a team weapon. You went in and helped the ones that needed that extra range.
@@VerageAirsoft Yeah, one thing that many people doesnt think about regarding snipers is the fact that even if they dont hit the first time they can on the follow up shot. So you might not even have to get a killshot every time as long as you slow down the offense. I managed to scare some people from attacking wich gave our forces time to regroup. Even though that doesnt translate into a fansy Novritsch hitcompilation-video, it still helps the team. I also have plans of fabricating a custom cylinder to add volume to the build. This will probably give me more range and probably help me at the 100m range shots. But as i see it, it still doesnt matter. Im first and foremost a airsoft organizer and second a player. Just meeting people and having a nice time is enough for me. I also saw alot of frustration and arguing between people who took everything to serious. That is just unnecessary. Berget is an airsoft festival for me and everything gets easier when you leave the instinct of winning at home 😉
@@mattiasolsson1766 i follow you in a lot of aspects of this. I'm quite competitive but I try not to get it to upper hand of me during the game. This year the people were more important than the missions. It's not an easy balance. We had a big group and there was a very good vibe between the papa people, that was awesome. So you're an organiser, we have to talk about that :D
Greetings from Papa 1-1 I have a cool picture of you with your Barett!
My man!! Thats awesome! I would really want to see it 🙂.
Suomi PERKELE!
Finnish brothers! 🇫🇮 🇸🇪♥️
Great video!! What is that intresting sound the gun makes after a shot? Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Did you also attend Berget? The sound comes from the reload of the rifle. Its a completely homemade system that charges a bolt action rifle using a ballscrew and a electric motor. I took a L96 AWS and fitted it inside a snowwolf Barret (AEG). I have a video on how it works and how i build it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6CWxquvgsq7dag.html
@@mattiasolsson1766 man that’s insanely amazing craftwork!! Unfortunately not due to personal reasons but I was going to join on the repa side!
@@drummerv2245There most certainly will be a berget next year also so next Berget just find me at the Sunne Airsoft tent and we will do a raid 😊!
@@mattiasolsson1766 cant wait!! See you there then!!😎😎
MAD 1-3: Go Lithuania!
Nice meeting you guys (if youre among the ones in the video 😉)
@@mattiasolsson1766 yes, we were!
Amazing video🤩🤩🤩 Go Sunne Airsoft 🦾🦾🦾
Thanks man! Glad you liked it 😁♥️
Thanks for these tests. I bought an Opsin to add to my thermals for night toys. Do you happen to know if there's an adapter I can get for the Opsin for a tripod?
Thanks for watching! Hope you like the Opsin. Regarding a tripod mount im not sure it exists. I would have 3d printed one that fit straight to the Opsin's railsystem if i were you 👍.
Don't both Sionyx have a "green" mode? Great video comparison!
No, only the Aurora got the green mode.The Opsin dont have any colourmodes at all. The Opsin's work a little bit differently, its pretty advanced actually. It adjust it self to monochrome automatically in extreme low light, but if you were to turn on for example a red laser you would get a monochrome image with a red dot in in the middle. So the Opsin is alot more user-friendly that way. I saw another youtuber explain the patent of the Opsin and it seems each pixel in the sensor work individually somehow.
Tack för recensionen. Var kan man köpa OPSIN?
Tjenare! Kul att kunna skriva på svenska i en kommentar för en gångs skull 😁. Jag köpte den via Escapismgear.se. De är ett dotterbolag till Equipnor som säljer utrustning till militär och blåljus personal. Maila Jonas på Escapismgear och fråga där. Dock verkar Opsin blivit ännu dyrare nu och med facit i hand så vet jag inte riktigt om den är värd priser över 30000:-. Förhoppningsvis så släpps telefonappen till Opsin i Juni och då kanske man får tillgång till lite fler funktioner. Just nu känns den lite naken inom det området.
Tack för tipset! Ok, tror jag väntar lite med OPSIN då. 30k är lite saftigt för en digital tycker jag. Har du någon rekommendation på gen 3 nvg (om det ens går att köpa i Sverige), eller annars en allmänt prisvärd bildförstärkare, samt bra butik? Eller köper man rör separat och monterar själv? Har aldrig köpt/ägt en tidigare men det vore riktigt kul att ha på nattvandringar samt att ha för nödsituationer.
Aurora pro is awesome for the price, in suburban, small town environments
These digital units look like garbage and not much better than a cheap entry level NV with IR.
Dang i wish i can see the stats of the gen 3 tube. under 2k FOM? Id imagine its like 1400 FOM? Im not pro but it seems like its a low FOM gen 3..
Look at 8:33 the stats for the tube is included at the end of the video.
That is pretty Scary impressive!!.....you can't deny digital will take over soon, just like with everything else. All the dinosaurs spending $10k on their shit don't wanna hear it.....history repeats itself Over and Over again, never forget it.
Maybe use the opsin instead of the phone to film through the gen3 device.
Yeah well i wanted identical pictures. Also there is always something i could have done different or better but i only had the gen 3 for a limited period of time. Therefore i have described the difference using text.
@@mattiasolsson1766 I see, I assumed those are at your disposal at any time. And you could just make a new extreme low light test. I know how limited the options are to truly convey how image intensifiers perform at the edge of usability. I also wonder if I should get a aurora to record footage from nightvision devices. Or if I should build a camera that more resembles the human eye, so I can also film into gen0+ devices.
Frame rate of opsin and pro @ 3:00
30fps
I see you figured out the 980nm diode trick. However, a 980 laser diode is much cheaper and more efficient. To avoid gen 3 seeing you, use the laser diode without a focus lens, so it is a left-right stripe of IR. Point the IR stripe higher or lower than the gen 3 user. Then it is reflected IR light that the gen 3 cannot see. I measured gen 3 as about 20x the sensitivity of the Opsin at 30 fps for green thru ~880 nm. However, by 980 nm, the Gen 3 is about 1/70th of the sensitivity of Opsin. Tip: turn the Opsin EV to -2.5 always. You don't lose sensitivity, but you don't get highlight washout. Also, do NOT leave the battery pack plugged in. It draws ~6.5 milliamps even when off.
Yes, if you watch the "subtitles" you will notice there are two different types of lights used. A 980nm ang and a "prototype". The prototype is a laserbased flashlight thats using a lens to spread the beam. The reason i didnt mention this was that im afraid people will start building these laserversions and do something wrong. They could possibly hurt someones eyes with dangerous laserlight if they dont build it the right way. But thanks for all the tips!, You seem to be the same type of person that i am since you like doing tests and figuring things out. Thanks for watching!
Hej Mattias, jag undrar om du har någon information om bästa sätt att handla bildförstärkare privat i Sverige? Försöker hitta en analog tub runt gen2+ för hyfsat pris second hand men är inte så taggad att köpa från vem vet vem i vidare Europa.
Hej du! Jag skulle nog prova NVG grupper på Facebook. Finns svenska sådana också. Köp ifrån säljare som andra känner till och kan voucha för.
The beginning garage scene was exactly what I’ve been looking for with gen 3. I’ve been searching for hours and haven’t been able to find anything depicting the same conditions. Thanks
This is by far the best OPSIN review out in the wild! Better than the AURORA PRO and not quite at GEN3 levels - what we expected. But it does so much more; color, records, streams, takes stills, GPS, DMC, no risk of image degradation/damage, day/night use, no blooming, can see lasers upto 1200nm, 15 hours battery and more...! GEN2 or OPSIN.......i've already bought an OPSIN! Easy choice!
Definitely getting better, I want one!
6:23 what was the lighting conditions
Go to 5:36 "Test 5" hit paus and read. All tests have its own description. But the conditions are full moon optimal conditions.
Yeah. . . If they sold the Opsin for $1000-$1200 I’d buy one
Maybe for 500.
The improved viewfinder is the win for the Opsin
How would you say it subjectively compares to gen 3?
Not sure what you mean? Gen 2 & 3 is considerable better in low light beneath 3milliLux just as its displayed in the video. If you want passive performance only and dont care for the perks of the Opsin (colourdisplay, no shelf-life or additional functions) then gen 2 and gen 3 is better. In open areas (no tree coverage) or areas with some lightpollution it works great even if its only starlight. If you watch the map of Sweden with lightpollution in the video you see the amount of lightpollution there is around in todays modern world. There isnt many places left were light isnt good enough to walk using lightpollution only. Hope that answered your question.
@@mattiasolsson1766 yeah I guess I just meant like Which would you prefer, if you could only keep one, and Is the contest close?
@@hunterterrell9930 in terms of extreme lowlight sensitivity they are far from close. Analog is a far better passive system. Wich one i would keep depends what im looking for. These are very different systems. I would keep the Opsin if i need the many functions it has that can be used all day around. And i would keep the gen 3 if i was searching for a more effective passive system and dont need anything else. Most people here only care for its main purpose of being able to see in the dark and then analog Gen 2&3 is better.
@@mattiasolsson1766 ok thank you
@@mattiasolsson1766 ok thank you. That’s very interesting to me.
Doesn’t even touch analog…
Can the Opsin do color?
Yes there are many sections of this video and my other videos showing that. However in extreme low light like in the video there isnt many colours to pick up from the sensor. Also using IR only give you one colour because that is simply how the lightspectrum works. The Opsin seem to autoadjust its colour to make the picture less grainy and thats probably the reason it seems grayscale even if its colourmode. If you check in the end when using the red laser you see it as red in the Opsin meanwhile the background is greyish. Check at 7.45m into the video.
Good job of conveying the difference in low light conditions. All the other videos out there are shot with a full moon. I also like how you stipulate that shooting video of gen 3 with a camera phone doesn't do it justice (it really doesnt)doesn't. Opsin is far too pricey for the performance you get.
Thanks, regarding price. That depends on what your looking for. Most analog users only care for low light sensitivity (nothing wrong with that). This unit have alot of extra functions and colour and probably AR functions soon. If youre a tech nerd like me then this unit make more sense
Who makes the best gen 3 night vision for under $2200 for single tube 🤔?
Night Vision Guys have the best spec WP pvs14 for the price right now assuming you dont need/want L3 tubes. They are around $2800 right now. Which for the specs (Elbit tubes, high SNR, FOM, etc), is an absolute steal. Around $2200 you are stuck with low/unknown spec green gen 3 tubes from places like Optics Planet. They work, but the extra $500 is well worth it. It has been worth every penny. I just did a review of them if you are interested.
Oh jävla... Nu kan jag var där varje vecka tack vare att jag bor i Karlstad
Säg till när du är här så kör vi ett pass 👍
@@mattiasolsson1766 ja men jag måste köpa vapen först 😅
@@CODtpk passa på att köpa ett begagnat till bra pris av Sunne Airsoft föreningen nu då 🙂. Vi ska förnya vårt lager av hyrgrejer 👍
Does OPSIN have Twilight mode like Aurora?
No fysical lens adjustment like the Aurora what i can see. If i want to use it day time i just turn down the EV and use it as it is. Works fine
@@mattiasolsson1766 Can you be able to drive w them, and shoot with red dots optic; And what is the delay between the OPSIN DNVM and pvs 14 gen 3?
@@thewokjohnson7295 regarding shooting with red dot i do that in my latest video. No problem using it with red dot. I haven't tested using the Opsin when driving since its probably both dangerous and illegal in Sweden. But regarding lag it would probably be possible to drive using it. But whenever someone points a flashlight towards you the camera sensor will adapt its exposure and that could make you loose track of the road in low light situations. In short i would only drive using it in the most optimal of conditions.
@@mattiasolsson1766 thanks for answering my questions I think im getting the opsin dnvm 👍🏻
@@mattiasolsson1766 but it does not have IR-cut-off filter, does it? So it gives false color?
Love seeing digital catching up to Analog, especially for the price the opsin comes in at, with on board recording compared to having to buy a seperate recording unit for intesifier tubes.
wearing it makes you feel like youre drunk and disoriented. I would NEVER want it during an actual op. The latency will almost always derail the digital option. It requires the shutter to be open for X amount of time while the phosphorous tubes transmit at the speed of light.
perfect for recording you getting cannoed by l2 users
Are you running the opsin on 90fps ?
Only on the shootingtest at the VTAC barriers. I think that is mentioned in the video. All low light tests are conducted using 30fps.
Were you able to see through your Gen 3 any light emitted from either Sionyx from the front (ie. the lense)? Nice video, thank you!
The viewfinder can be adjusted to adapt to your eye. In the lowest setting the gen 3 will have problems picking up any glare from the Opsin. Atleast from the front. The Aurora is however very visible since its viewfinder produce alot of light.
@@mattiasolsson1766 Thanks! But little or none from the front of Aurora? There is a viewfinder cover that can block off most of the light emitted from Lion Gate.
@@NL-gn2dl Yes, i have a pvs 14rubber cap on my Aurora mounted using an adapter from Liongear. However im not using it in this video.
I'm always trying to film with my phone thru my night vision people say how cool it is and like gotta come out and see it in person it's actually kind of creepy me and my gf play hide and seek with our pvs7's to get better with them
Some phonecameras are better then others in low light. Mine is crap however.
@mattiasolsson1766 I've been using the galaxy note ultra to film I did get a camera rig set up off Amazon that attaches the phone to my pvs14 and it is much better quality though the cheaper one I bought broke I really want to try out an opsin I burned out a 7 tough lesson for what is now a paperweight the opsin seems like it would do well in a more urban enviroment