Great review and comps, my man! You do a great job of showing how we engineered OPSIN to be in a league of its own.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! And good work on making the Opsin! Really looking forward seeing your plans for the App! If you dont mind me asking will there be augmented reality for this?

@DankSandwich

Жыл бұрын

Can y’all send me one and I’ll advertise it on my viral meme page?

@SIONYXnightvision

Жыл бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 No plans for augmented-reality in the short term but it's one of the many optimizations and improvements we're heard from users! Our Product Engineering team is aware of the desire for this feature

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

@@SIONYXnightvisionthanks for answering. I have gotten alot of messages and also heard it from people testing my unit in real life. Most people Ive talked to would buy this unit for its future functions. Think of it this way: adding waypoints or maybe using your phone and a map to add points of interest in advance before going out in the field. This would be a 24-7 device. You could basically have it helmetmounted all day around and use it to se how close to objectives you are. It would even be easier than using a phone or map even in daytime. Please dont let this idea of augmented reality or waypoints go to waste. Waypoints would also probably boost sales considerably and make a purchase an easier choice when comparing analog gen 2 and The Opsin.

@VK6AB-

Жыл бұрын

@@SIONYXnightvision When you released the Aurora an Augmented Reality App was released then quickly withdrawn. In your advertising material SiOnyx indicates the OPSIN App (not released as yet) will allow for firmware upgrades and the addition of "new features" - in the absence of full AR what will these new features deliver. One purpose of these digital night vision devices is the potential to integrate other layers of information. If you aren't prepared to add basic movement functions e.g. GPS with functional coordinates (UTM/MGRS), a range of internationally recognised datums and basic NAV e.g. waypoints etc - then what is the purpose of the device.

This is by far the best OPSIN review out in the wild! Better than the AURORA PRO and not quite at GEN3 levels - what we expected. But it does so much more; color, records, streams, takes stills, GPS, DMC, no risk of image degradation/damage, day/night use, no blooming, can see lasers upto 1200nm, 15 hours battery and more...! GEN2 or OPSIN.......i've already bought an OPSIN! Easy choice!

Great work Mattias - appreciate the very significant time and effort that goes into making these comparison videos.

Great comparison video...thank you!

Thanks for posting this up! I love the nvg stuff!

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Thank mate! The next video will probably not be about NVGs though 😅. But if i find something interesting to test i will post it here.

Excellent review, very informative and pleasant ! Thank you for your work. Cheers.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very informative and real world information! Thank you!

Definitely getting better, I want one!

The beginning garage scene was exactly what I’ve been looking for with gen 3. I’ve been searching for hours and haven’t been able to find anything depicting the same conditions. Thanks

I have been checking out the Opsin! thanks Mattias!

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

No problem 🙂

Great , and thx for your video ♥️

Love seeing digital catching up to Analog, especially for the price the opsin comes in at, with on board recording compared to having to buy a seperate recording unit for intesifier tubes.

@cynstan

Жыл бұрын

wearing it makes you feel like youre drunk and disoriented. I would NEVER want it during an actual op. The latency will almost always derail the digital option. It requires the shutter to be open for X amount of time while the phosphorous tubes transmit at the speed of light.

@forestnfren8146

Жыл бұрын

perfect for recording you getting cannoed by l2 users

The entire video I felt as if I was watching a serial killer showing me the location of the bodies.

@mattiasolsson1766

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Yeah, i guess the maps and the music gave that atmosphere 😅. The map is there to help people to see in what light & environment the unit was used. Alot of people doesnt take light-pollution from nearby cities into consideration and that part is important.

I have no doubt the opsin is a vast improvement over the aurora pro, that said i have the latter and have had some yrs now,and i have been very happy with it-which i would not be if was half as bad as your video suggests lol (Am putting it down to phone camera not picking it up as well as should rather than a purposefull intention to make it seem rubbish compared to the opsin, am only mentioning as the aurora is still a v.good (and a lot cheaper) alternative to those not having the opsin price tag within their budgets -that said,am trying it at airsoft this weekend instead of a red dot sight both during day skirmishes and night ones to test out how viable is in airsoft since my red dot does not have a zoom option like the aurora :) ) Admitterdly mind i do just because i can, use an IR torch to make things clearer a lot of time...

@mattiasolsson1766

11 ай бұрын

Since i not a native English speaker i not sure i understood everything you wrote correctly. The video i made is 100% non based towards any of these units and i own them both. Im holding the units beside each other at the same time. Its a reason for why i added all the background light information in the video. Im living far away from citylights in a dense forest. Which mean poor light conditions that result in bad results with a digital sensor. The winner in low light is analog, the Opsin is a better tool for fast movement and shooting in the digital realm compared to the Aurora but will also need IR at these extreme conditions. Im not sure if you are trying to say im trying to make the Aurora look bad in comparison to the Opsin.or if its me reading you wrong. The Aurora pro is in a League of its own as its a ordinary handcamera that CAN be used as a compromise for shooting but not as effective as the Opsin (headmounted that is). Looking through the Opsin and the Aurora is very different in real life since the file compression makes the Opsin look alot worse than it is. If you watch my video "Lämmlarna at Mercs" and move to the nvg part im using the Aurora pro at an airsoftgame. Its usable and if Ir isn't an issue then its its even better. To be fair though neather of these units will work great against a decent analog if you enter the treeline of our denser forests in Sweden at these conditions. The reason i would choose the Opsin over an analog is for the future apps that may add som added value in the future (if it ever gets released). Regarding the Aurora pro and the Opsin thats another story. They have very different applications. The Opsin lack alot of dedicated camera functions the Aurora have but the lag during shooting is alot worse on the Aurora. If youre happy using the Aurora i see no reason to change to the Opsin.

Hi, great video, although I’m curious about 2 things: 1. was all of the opsin footage at 90fps? if so, do you think there would be a noticable gain improvement if it’d be 30fps? 2. what european manufacturer makes gen 3 tubes? i’ve read somewhere gen 3s are overregulated by eu, but i now see that acquiring one is possible. and again, thank you for the in depth video about this topic :)

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

All lowlight footage is 30fps and the shooting using the VTAC barriers are 90fps. I have no problem walking or shooting using 30fps. But i do understand that people have it. Shooting using 30fps will probably be give you a bit longer reactiontimes. The difference in extreme lowlight between 90 - 30fps is substantial. The gen 3 tube we use in the video is bought used. No idea were my friend got it from. However there are forum on Facebook were you probably can find used tubes.

I see you figured out the 980nm diode trick. However, a 980 laser diode is much cheaper and more efficient. To avoid gen 3 seeing you, use the laser diode without a focus lens, so it is a left-right stripe of IR. Point the IR stripe higher or lower than the gen 3 user. Then it is reflected IR light that the gen 3 cannot see. I measured gen 3 as about 20x the sensitivity of the Opsin at 30 fps for green thru ~880 nm. However, by 980 nm, the Gen 3 is about 1/70th of the sensitivity of Opsin. Tip: turn the Opsin EV to -2.5 always. You don't lose sensitivity, but you don't get highlight washout. Also, do NOT leave the battery pack plugged in. It draws ~6.5 milliamps even when off.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if you watch the "subtitles" you will notice there are two different types of lights used. A 980nm ang and a "prototype". The prototype is a laserbased flashlight thats using a lens to spread the beam. The reason i didnt mention this was that im afraid people will start building these laserversions and do something wrong. They could possibly hurt someones eyes with dangerous laserlight if they dont build it the right way. But thanks for all the tips!, You seem to be the same type of person that i am since you like doing tests and figuring things out. Thanks for watching!

Good job of conveying the difference in low light conditions. All the other videos out there are shot with a full moon. I also like how you stipulate that shooting video of gen 3 with a camera phone doesn't do it justice (it really doesnt)doesn't. Opsin is far too pricey for the performance you get.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, regarding price. That depends on what your looking for. Most analog users only care for low light sensitivity (nothing wrong with that). This unit have alot of extra functions and colour and probably AR functions soon. If youre a tech nerd like me then this unit make more sense

I'm hoping that canon's new SPAD sensors will help drive down the prices of these units. At it's current price point, gen 3s seem to provide a lot more performance.

@luciankristov6436

Жыл бұрын

You and i both my dude ! SPAD is gonna woop some analog ass

@lawrencerodgers9845

Жыл бұрын

@@luciankristov6436 when will these sensors be available?

@CthuluLovesU

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencerodgers9845 they went into full production in December I think. I think drones and security cameras are their priority right now so hopefully good news for the digital nvg community.

Thanks for these tests. I bought an Opsin to add to my thermals for night toys. Do you happen to know if there's an adapter I can get for the Opsin for a tripod?

@mattiasolsson1766

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Hope you like the Opsin. Regarding a tripod mount im not sure it exists. I would have 3d printed one that fit straight to the Opsin's railsystem if i were you 👍.

I would say, also mention the fact that the screen for the opsin has a very good brightness adjustment and if you nail it properly for your eye, you can see far better like this, than you would be from a compressed mp4 file saved on the sd card.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that is true. Looking through the viewfinder also give you the ability to zoom and change gain. These functions also doesnt follow the recording into the file on the SD card. I will try and edit the video adding this

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

There is sadly no way of editing a video to add stuff afterwards. Instead im going to make a different video testing this the right way when i find time for it. Thank you for your input!

The improved viewfinder is the win for the Opsin

Would you say it's worth trading in an Aurora Pro for the Opsin?

@mattiasolsson1766

4 ай бұрын

Depending on what you are going to use it for, what requirements you have, what you consider being a fair price and were you live, thats hard to answer. But its FAR more useful helmetmounted compared to the Aurora Pro. The light sensitivity is shown in the video and its better but not on par with gen 2 in extreme low light under 3mLux.

Don't both Sionyx have a "green" mode? Great video comparison!

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

No, only the Aurora got the green mode.The Opsin dont have any colourmodes at all. The Opsin's work a little bit differently, its pretty advanced actually. It adjust it self to monochrome automatically in extreme low light, but if you were to turn on for example a red laser you would get a monochrome image with a red dot in in the middle. So the Opsin is alot more user-friendly that way. I saw another youtuber explain the patent of the Opsin and it seems each pixel in the sensor work individually somehow.

So can you move and shoot and or run and stuff etc with the opsin like is it worth it over analog or no not yet

@mattiasolsson1766

9 ай бұрын

Depends, Since it doesnt work the same way as an analog system. The darker it gets the the more you have to lower the framerate (90-30fps). Some people have a hard time using it when the framerate goes to low. You can solve this by using an IR light in really dark environments so you dont need to go lower in fps. But then everyone else see you using a nods. The best reason to buy would be the shelf life, HUD functions, colour, recordfunctions. etc. But an analog system Gen2+ -gen3 is better in extreme low light overall. If you live in Europe like me, Sionyx may be a good option if you cant find anything else. But if you live in the US it may be better to buy an analog Gen3 since its easier to find there and for a reasonable price.

@justaregularguy3827

9 ай бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 yeah I'm east coast USA gen2 + is way more of an affordable option then gen 3 and the siyonix

@mattiasolsson1766

9 ай бұрын

@@justaregularguy3827 Yeah, i mainly bought it since its something new and exciting. I was going to get a used Gen3 but this was to interesting to look past. Have great day man

Tack för recensionen. Var kan man köpa OPSIN?

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Tjenare! Kul att kunna skriva på svenska i en kommentar för en gångs skull 😁. Jag köpte den via Escapismgear.se. De är ett dotterbolag till Equipnor som säljer utrustning till militär och blåljus personal. Maila Jonas på Escapismgear och fråga där. Dock verkar Opsin blivit ännu dyrare nu och med facit i hand så vet jag inte riktigt om den är värd priser över 30000:-. Förhoppningsvis så släpps telefonappen till Opsin i Juni och då kanske man får tillgång till lite fler funktioner. Just nu känns den lite naken inom det området.

@Brolofs

Жыл бұрын

Tack för tipset! Ok, tror jag väntar lite med OPSIN då. 30k är lite saftigt för en digital tycker jag. Har du någon rekommendation på gen 3 nvg (om det ens går att köpa i Sverige), eller annars en allmänt prisvärd bildförstärkare, samt bra butik? Eller köper man rör separat och monterar själv? Har aldrig köpt/ägt en tidigare men det vore riktigt kul att ha på nattvandringar samt att ha för nödsituationer.

Hej Mattias, jag undrar om du har någon information om bästa sätt att handla bildförstärkare privat i Sverige? Försöker hitta en analog tub runt gen2+ för hyfsat pris second hand men är inte så taggad att köpa från vem vet vem i vidare Europa.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Hej du! Jag skulle nog prova NVG grupper på Facebook. Finns svenska sådana också. Köp ifrån säljare som andra känner till och kan voucha för.

Dang i wish i can see the stats of the gen 3 tube. under 2k FOM? Id imagine its like 1400 FOM? Im not pro but it seems like its a low FOM gen 3..

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Look at 8:33 the stats for the tube is included at the end of the video.

Are you running the opsin on 90fps ?

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Only on the shootingtest at the VTAC barriers. I think that is mentioned in the video. All low light tests are conducted using 30fps.

Who makes the best gen 3 night vision for under $2200 for single tube 🤔?

@poortac5568

Жыл бұрын

Night Vision Guys have the best spec WP pvs14 for the price right now assuming you dont need/want L3 tubes. They are around $2800 right now. Which for the specs (Elbit tubes, high SNR, FOM, etc), is an absolute steal. Around $2200 you are stuck with low/unknown spec green gen 3 tubes from places like Optics Planet. They work, but the extra $500 is well worth it. It has been worth every penny. I just did a review of them if you are interested.

Can the Opsin do color?

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Yes there are many sections of this video and my other videos showing that. However in extreme low light like in the video there isnt many colours to pick up from the sensor. Also using IR only give you one colour because that is simply how the lightspectrum works. The Opsin seem to autoadjust its colour to make the picture less grainy and thats probably the reason it seems grayscale even if its colourmode. If you check in the end when using the red laser you see it as red in the Opsin meanwhile the background is greyish. Check at 7.45m into the video.

6:23 what was the lighting conditions

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Go to 5:36 "Test 5" hit paus and read. All tests have its own description. But the conditions are full moon optimal conditions.

How would you say it subjectively compares to gen 3?

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean? Gen 2 & 3 is considerable better in low light beneath 3milliLux just as its displayed in the video. If you want passive performance only and dont care for the perks of the Opsin (colourdisplay, no shelf-life or additional functions) then gen 2 and gen 3 is better. In open areas (no tree coverage) or areas with some lightpollution it works great even if its only starlight. If you watch the map of Sweden with lightpollution in the video you see the amount of lightpollution there is around in todays modern world. There isnt many places left were light isnt good enough to walk using lightpollution only. Hope that answered your question.

@hunterterrell9930

Жыл бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 yeah I guess I just meant like Which would you prefer, if you could only keep one, and Is the contest close?

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

@@hunterterrell9930 in terms of extreme lowlight sensitivity they are far from close. Analog is a far better passive system. Wich one i would keep depends what im looking for. These are very different systems. I would keep the Opsin if i need the many functions it has that can be used all day around. And i would keep the gen 3 if i was searching for a more effective passive system and dont need anything else. Most people here only care for its main purpose of being able to see in the dark and then analog Gen 2&3 is better.

@hunterterrell9930

Жыл бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 ok thank you

@hunterterrell9930

Жыл бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 ok thank you. That’s very interesting to me.

Maybe use the opsin instead of the phone to film through the gen3 device.

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Yeah well i wanted identical pictures. Also there is always something i could have done different or better but i only had the gen 3 for a limited period of time. Therefore i have described the difference using text.

@heyarno

Жыл бұрын

@@mattiasolsson1766 I see, I assumed those are at your disposal at any time. And you could just make a new extreme low light test. I know how limited the options are to truly convey how image intensifiers perform at the edge of usability. I also wonder if I should get a aurora to record footage from nightvision devices. Or if I should build a camera that more resembles the human eye, so I can also film into gen0+ devices.

I'm always trying to film with my phone thru my night vision people say how cool it is and like gotta come out and see it in person it's actually kind of creepy me and my gf play hide and seek with our pvs7's to get better with them

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

Some phonecameras are better then others in low light. Mine is crap however.

@travislupum

4 ай бұрын

​@mattiasolsson1766 I've been using the galaxy note ultra to film I did get a camera rig set up off Amazon that attaches the phone to my pvs14 and it is much better quality though the cheaper one I bought broke I really want to try out an opsin I burned out a 7 tough lesson for what is now a paperweight the opsin seems like it would do well in a more urban enviroment

You can build a gen3 pvs14 for cheaper than the opsin, around $2k, so I can’t justify the price of it

@gtholsters4424

Жыл бұрын

Where can you build a white pvs14 for 2k. I'd like to do that

@DankSandwich

Жыл бұрын

@@gtholsters4424 that’s my biggest problem honestly, I don’t know the reputable websites and everybody with Night vision seems to gatekeep. I know it can be done, and actually for less than $1k, but I’m still looking for the right websites. If I find one, I’ll come back here and let you know

@dmoose7066

Жыл бұрын

@@DankSandwich No one gatekeepes in the nv community, so many resources out there for it. Heck there are youtube videos on how to build them. but building one for less then 1k with a semi decent tube is going to be incredibly hard to do.

Yeah. . . If they sold the Opsin for $1000-$1200 I’d buy one

@Reviews4fun1

Жыл бұрын

Maybe for 500.

Doesn’t even touch analog…

This is way over priced they need to take off about 1700 for consumers to actually take this seriously and even then it’s more urban only type device

@alexispadilla2606

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao im what world do you get night vision for $700

@DankSandwich

Жыл бұрын

@@alexispadilla2606 it’s a digital camera dude, literally every camera ever made is IR and they use filters to block it out. This isn’t new technology, they just put it in a designated helmet mountable monocular and optimized the settings

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

@@DankSandwich Yes you are correct. Its a camera sensor. But there are different priceranges on sensors. We dont know how expensive the black silicone sensor is to produce since its only used in limited numbers in their own products. The price is probably a result from how many units they make, the price of material and also the income should produce enough money to give them a research budget for future cameras. Im not sponsored by Sionyx in any way. I bought this device myself using my own hard earned money. But i honestly think people should take it easy on assumptions. I have a really hard time seeing anything digital being able to work this well in terms of low lights sensitivity compared to the Opsin. Atleast commercially available at this pricepoint and at this time. With that said. If youre interested in lowlight sensitivity for less money then go analog. The Opsin should be bought for its additional functions.

@luciankristov6436

Жыл бұрын

Actually yes you can get a decent digital night vision unit that doesn't need an IR at all. Their limted to 30fps only but they do work . They're called NVG10. Ive used it side by side with my pvs 14 gen 2 and its barley better then the NVG10 i only paid 368 to my door for it lol . Look up the NVG10 proof is in the vids

@mattiasolsson1766

Жыл бұрын

@@luciankristov6436 Yes seen them. Interesting device. seem you have to mod their lenses to get a more realistic zoom though. Still a usable device. However have anyone compared them to someting relatable like an Aurora? Also was the NVG10 tested in same lowlight situations as the Opsin/Aurora Pro in my video? I have my doubts that someting at that low pricepoint can outperform an expensive unit as the Opsin. You get what you pay for comes to mind. Im almost tempted to buy one just for comparing against and sell later.

These digital units look like garbage and not much better than a cheap entry level NV with IR.