It seems to me that the the central theme of Christianity is faith. God is only hidden in a way to excite a longing for him. That longing can only be satisfied through faith. Pragmatism only goes so far, it is only through faith that you can see him clearly.
@jamesmg469420 минут бұрын
The real test of a Christian 'revival' is a increasing awareness of sin, not just 'wrongdoing' (which is helpful) but wrongdoing in relation to God.
@davidhoagland32635 сағат бұрын
I think that's a brilliant way to put it: if he's God, then of course he rose from the dead. Thank you!
@robertjames91818 сағат бұрын
things have really changed,, alex refering to christianity in reference to jesus rather than judgeing christianity by those who call themselves christians is a huge change,
@user-xp4fm2st8u9 сағат бұрын
Wishful thinking.....
@HearGodsWord8 сағат бұрын
It's accurate, rather than wishful. I'd recommend reading Justin's book.
@matthewvaughan153210 сағат бұрын
I’d love to see you in conversation with Alex
@SpeakLifeMedia7 сағат бұрын
Me too :)
@matthewvaughan153210 сағат бұрын
You do a good job of looking at this respectfully and with no frothing at the mount. Applause for that I see too much frothing on all sides! Personally, I think you got a few things wrong but I’m an atheist, so not surprising.
@johndeighan249511 сағат бұрын
Excellent content- both the original discussion and the commentary. Impressed and subscribed.
@SpeakLifeMedia7 сағат бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@77saint77posttrib11 сағат бұрын
As a fellow believer in Jesus. We can only hope for one another's salvation!!
@benjamin.misantone11 сағат бұрын
As a Christian, it's an exciting time to watch this all play out.
@home863011 сағат бұрын
You can not try your way into faith. You have to allow faith and the truth to unfold. It's about acceptance and allowing and needing to understand the truth more than anything else. It's always been up to God to reveal who he is and it is also up to God to conceal who he is. However people have always concealed what God has revealed or revealing, because they don't want it to be true. The intelligence that you are all benefiting from came through another, and you gave them no credit, no honour, pushed that one out of their place and space, constantly reaped the work and benefitted immenseley only to oppress that one. Including their ideas, thoughts, emotions, feelings, who they are and you made it your own, trouble is none of you are that. So now, the reality is to come into being, because you will now all be cut off from that access, and see the reality of yourselves and the standard that you really have. You benefited from another and you treated that other like garbage. None of you have any sort of integrity or honour. When you have access to intelligence of another, you behave like pompous prigs. The intellectual pride and vanity is disgusting, particularly when you have been robbing the intelligence of another, been vain about it and then treating them like garbage. You left them on their own so they have no conversation or relationship with anyone while you can have conversations and relationships with whoever you feel like, even though you don't deserve to. Not on.
@williammoran489812 сағат бұрын
Ive considered this for decades in my connection with divinity and nudism. The whole church based idea of not placing temptation in front of others is flawed. Nudity equals lust is the common trope. Yet how many sins clothes tempt into existence? Are clothes not a symbol to men if status placimg one above others, dies that status not create envy in others less fortunate? Dies it not provide a shroud to hide the teue sepf behind to those your equal to as gods children.? Your nakedness is your creation in gods image to hide it means what ? Deceprion , rejection, man manipulatimg others. It doesnt stop lust to be clothed in fact it increases it as then the mind creates mystery wonder to see what god created. Fir example a skimpy bikini to most is more seductive tham seeing a nude female. In short nuduty us teuth and clothes hide the truth. Truth is always sought by man. You sumply cant jydge a mans worldly wealth when conversing with him nude. You can only see him as your equal you knkw nithing of his material wealth or financial ability, nothing if his social placement cinstructed in society you see nothing but the pure unalduterterated creation of god unpolluted by mans manipulations. For what reason to to prevemt men from committing sinful acts of lust? In a day where lust us ysed to sell products , in a day where women gain wealth from feeding lust. Lust usnt to be shielded its to be controlled by mam as he recognizes the sins it can cause yet its integral as we must lust to form desire be it lusting for love a wife ir even a realationship with christ. Lust is natural and of gods intended creation its nit a flaw of his perfect design but like many things it can be a tool of good and evil that choice lies soley in the freewill given to man by god. One of the prime examples of why church fails often as it attemptrs to stand betweem man and God. Where in the bible does it say any man has the authority to stand between God and his creation? Or simply the anti christ camnot exust with out church and religion as they are the creators as they teach false prophecies to maintian authority over those weak in gods word seekimg to be told what it says and willing to submit their aurhoeitie in christ over to other men risking thier salvation on words other men tell them. To fear hell so much surely one canvsee how foolish it is to trust orher mens understandings risking eternal salvation doing so.
@monthc13 сағат бұрын
I agree Alex is incorrect about the impact of Christianity. I wonder if he understands that the Christian story accounts for the exact way that moral progress has played out? Humans are responsible for the slowness of progress, because humans are sinful and hard-hearted by nature. God planted the seeds at every key point in history as detailed in the biblical narrative, with the final seed being the death of Christ, and the kingdom of heaven sprouting as like a mustard seed with his resurrection. Seed sprouts grow slowly. It's all there in the biblical canon.
@SpeakLifeMedia13 сағат бұрын
Yes, yeast-through-dough and mustard-seed-to-tree are slow but thorough growths
@RicHrt54014 сағат бұрын
Glenn, please continue 'speaking life' this way - you are one of the few commentators that is not just interrupting a great conversation but highlighting it with very meaningful comments. Thanks for your work here!
@SpeakLifeMedia13 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@johnfrancis440115 сағат бұрын
Jesus is appearing in dreams to Iranians with lots of people converting to Christianity.
@imbecilicGenius-hn3jo15 сағат бұрын
Christians have grown too fond of modern western culture, especially evangelicals, despite it being directly against christianity. Yes there are elements of westernism pulled from christianity such as personal liberty and all being created equal. But the womans rights movement had nothing to do with christianity. This modern materialism where we are focussed more on what we obtain in this world rather than who we obtain for the next. The American patriotism where God has become equal to country. We must be careful when saying western principles come from christianity because when I look at the west, God is nowhere in sight.
@nitsujism15 сағат бұрын
More plausible: Joseph of Arimathea went to claim the body but it had already been dumped into a mass grave. Telling this to the disciples would have been heartbreaking so he tells them its in the tomb. A few believers hear of this and a few days layer the tomb is opened to check. Body not there. The sightings thereafter are fabrications to support the narrative of resurrection.
@wankerwackson651414 сағат бұрын
Ok, but at least one of the gospels claims the women were with him. They would have known he was lying. It seems strange to take the details about Joseph of Arimathea as factual while ignoring the the other claims. Why can't the part about Joseph also be wrong?
@PhilTough-hn8qj16 сағат бұрын
Why are the women in Marks account going to prepare the body with spices? The reason you put spices and prepare the body for burial is to disguise the smell. Once a body is already buried there is absoloutely no point in doing it and after a day that body would be stinking anyway. Add the fact that it's against Jewish law for women to prepare a man for burial and the story becomes a little bit suspect. The writer needs a reason for someone to find an empty tomb. What does an empty tomb mean?
@marinka42416 сағат бұрын
If this lady has become Christian because her heart and soul was lonely without Christ that can only be applauded. The liberal Anglican Church in UK, might have a problem because they don’t believe in the other dimension.I know a lot of Marxists who became Christian in 1990’s, because they liked Jesus as a man. They also thought if they could turn the church into a non spiritual place, they could break down all cultural barriers which stood between anglicans and Muslims, for instance, as people will fight for a spiritual entity more than a nice man from the bible. Some of these people became vicars. The fact that people are now becoming Christian because they want people to unite behind a spiritual being to give us strength to fight the enemy, is going to bring about some very interesting results in the church of England.
@wmarkfish16 сағат бұрын
50 years ago I and a great many of my age peers looked longingly for musical and cultural influences toward Britain. Not just the Beatles but groups with sounds harkening back to pre-Christian folk roots like Pentangle, Donovan, Steeleye Span, even Jethro Tull to a great extent. Along with the rebellion fostered in my heart I pursued these sounds and lyrics with a fervor as if to bring forth from the ancestral past a sense of the world void of any Christian influence as if that were purest and most innocent. What the culmination of that pursuit has lead to 30,40,50 years on is something that looks like the Streets of Kensington in Philadelphia.
@peterwestwood230716 сағат бұрын
Sorry, but your critique of AOC on the failings of the church regarding slavery etc was almost disingenuous. He didn’t explicitly attribute those advancements to the enlightenment yet that’s where you take your aim. You then acknowledge the failings of the church over 2 millennia but focus only on the belated Christian action. This is the point! It took almost 2 millennia to get there! Why? Not just because Christians didn’t act on their beliefs - but also because the manual was/is deficient and (to be charitable) contradictory in terms of its ethics. It really won’t do to appeal to yeast and acorns.
@Sandra_Robinson16 сағат бұрын
Really interesting video on a really interesting video! Thank you. 🙏🏻 One *correction* if I may. You say marital rape was only outlawed in the 1970s. (I assume you mean in the UK). In fact, it wasn’t until 1992 following R v R appealed in the House of Lords (no Supreme Court then) that it became illegal for a husband to rape his wife. 1992. 😢
@CJFCarlsson17 сағат бұрын
Who said atheists are rational? They usually are false to the core.
@Willabrador18 сағат бұрын
So good! So the question to the Christian is: are you up for being part of Hid purposes now. Are you read to welcome non-typical christians into your communities of faith.
@wolves20118 сағат бұрын
I’d like to know views on the rise in ‘deconstructionism’ in Christianity. ‘A tidal wave’ is how some describe it.
@ericbeal468819 сағат бұрын
What if we instead learned to abandon this desire/need for meaning and acceptance instead of inventing narratives that patch up that hole?
@michaelhart107219 сағат бұрын
Not likely
@ericbeal468818 сағат бұрын
@@michaelhart1072 Maybe not, but what if?
@drsravan19 сағат бұрын
Makes perfect sense, Gary Habermas and his magnum opus is of "zero" use to convince anyone other than people who are already believers of "Christ is Lord".
@RAFAEL2776920 сағат бұрын
Alex has brought up some significant questions and issues, which I believe can be addressed . It's important to acknowledge that the history of Christendom is not without its controversies , and must not be whitewashed. For instance, during the peak of apartheid in South Africa, the Dutch Reformed Church, which was then the official state religion, regrettably supported the apartheid ideology as a divine mandate. The church misinterpreted biblical texts to convince the populace that racial segregation and the subjugation of Black South Africans were divinely sanctioned. Sadly, other denominations in South Africa acquiesced to this doctrine, and only a courageous few dared to contest these erroneous teachings, often at great personal cost . It's worth noting that among the groups that actively resisted apartheid, Jehovah's Witnesses were particularly notable. They firmly opposed the regime's oppressive policies and, as a result, many young men from their community chose imprisonment over being conscripted into military service where they would be forced to participate in acts of violence against Black South Africans. Despite facing intense persecution, often with the state church's endorsement of such treatment, Jehovah's Witnesses stood firm in their convictions, demonstrating moral courage in the face of widespread injustice. I know this , as I was one of those young men at the time , and remember the harship and the sacrifices that they were making to honour God and their consciences .😢
@segagenysis691820 сағат бұрын
God is impersonal. He doesn't care how you spend your life.
@HearGodsWord8 сағат бұрын
That's not the God of Christianity. He is in fact the exact opposite.
@segagenysis69186 сағат бұрын
@@HearGodsWord No one has seen God. Therefore God is unknowable. Therefore he is impersonal.
@CedanyTheAlaskan21 сағат бұрын
The Church isn't a museum for Saints, but a hospital for sinners. Go there to heal not because you are healed.
@kyaxar360921 сағат бұрын
I am an Atheist and you Christians are changing me.. Not!!!😂
@michaelhart107219 сағат бұрын
Zing! Got us!! 😂
@daneumurian546621 сағат бұрын
"There's a stone in my chest. Where a heart is supposed to be. Can you pulverize, tenderize, expand it, Set it free? "Evolve Me, Jesus, Let the Big Bang happen. Let me hear the sound Of your hands clapping. Evolve Me, Jesus. "Hydrogen, helium, fusion, Transformation, The Trinity inviting us Into fiery relation. "Evolve Me Jesus, In your family forever. With your pure passion, Build us together. Evolve Me Jesus. "We've got the nucleotides, C, G, T, and A. If they could get together, We could have DNA. "Evolve Me, Jesus, Let the pieces fit. Teach me to pray, Not stray or quit. Evolve Me, Jesus. "The pond is drying up The mountain is getting warm. Anyone with an idea, Raise a wing or arm. "Evolve Me, Jesus, Leave my sin behind. Burst the old wineskins, Splash the new wine. Evolve Me, Jesus. Dan Eumurian Item #22 here: www.lacrossepiano.com/songs-poems-etc
@hydrogenesis739522 сағат бұрын
"of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe."- Merriam Webster definition of supernatural. what do we call something that fits the definition of supernatural?
@mathewparr427822 сағат бұрын
Skepticism is a form of idolatry
@bubbafowpend994317 сағат бұрын
How, specifically?
@HearGodsWord8 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure that it is. Looking as doubting Thomas would be good to consider.
@UnbiasOP23 сағат бұрын
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor master, nor is there man or woman, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" Gal. 3:28 This is 2k years old. Let that sink in.
@philstilwell23 сағат бұрын
ChatGPT: "Convincing Justin That Feelings Do Not Constitute Evidence 1. Define Evidence Objective vs. Subjective: Clarify the distinction between objective evidence and subjective feelings. Objective Evidence: Facts, data, and observable phenomena that can be independently verified. Subjective Feelings: Personal experiences and emotions that are internal and cannot be independently verified. 2. Establish the Importance of Evidence Scientific Method: Emphasize the importance of the scientific method in establishing reliable knowledge. Reproducibility: Evidence should be reproducible by others under similar conditions. Falsifiability: Good evidence should be able to be tested and potentially disproven. 3. Use Analogies Courtroom Analogy: Compare beliefs based on feelings to a courtroom scenario. Evidence in Court: In a legal case, decisions are made based on evidence, not the feelings of those involved. Reliable Outcomes: Highlight how this approach ensures fair and reliable outcomes. 4. Highlight Cognitive Biases Confirmation Bias: Explain how people tend to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or feelings. Impact on Perception: This can lead to the misinterpretation of feelings as evidence. 5. Present Contradictory Examples Diverse Feelings: Show that feelings vary greatly among individuals and can lead to contradictory conclusions. Different Beliefs: People of various religions or no religion at all have strong feelings that support their own beliefs. 6. Reference Psychological Studies Placebo Effect: Use examples from psychological studies where the placebo effect demonstrates the power of belief and feelings without real efficacy. False Positives: Feelings can produce strong convictions even in the absence of actual evidence. 7. Discuss the Role of Evidence in Belief Formation Healthy Skepticism: Encourage a skeptical approach where beliefs are proportionate to the evidence supporting them. Critical Thinking: Emphasize the need for critical thinking and skepticism in evaluating beliefs. 8. Introduce the Concept of Parsimony Occam's Razor: Explain the principle that, among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Minimizing Assumptions: Feelings often introduce numerous assumptions that are not necessary if they lack supporting evidence. 9. Address Emotional Investment Emotional Commitment: Acknowledge that emotional investment can make it hard to separate feelings from evidence. Self-Reflection: Encourage Justin to reflect on whether his feelings are clouding his judgment. 10. Practical Steps Verification: Suggest Justin seek ways to independently verify his feelings with objective data. Peer Review: Encourage discussing his views with skeptics or those holding different beliefs to test their robustness. Balanced Approach: Recommend balancing subjective experiences with objective evidence to form a more comprehensive understanding. By approaching the conversation with empathy, respect, and clear reasoning, you can help Justin understand that while feelings are valid and important, they do not alone constitute evidence."
@ScottRock-mr6qk23 сағат бұрын
Having faith is not all you need. The Bible, especially James, is clear about what you need. You need both faith and works to be saved. Period. Anyone that tells you anything different teaches something other than what the Bible says. YOU MUST HAVE BOTH.
@jacobvictorfisher8256Күн бұрын
I honestly don't see it. It looks to me like society is becoming increasingly post-Christian. In a thoroughly post-Christian society (which the English speaking world hasn't reached yet, especially the US, but western continental Europe mostly has) Christians aren't seen as a threat anymore and so they're more tolerated. And anyone can talk about Christian ideas just like we can talk about myth and literature in general.
@wbm3787Күн бұрын
Well dah! "Minimal facts argument" is not the only argument much less the be all or end all on the subject. It helps to engage at a level above prepubescent.
@fromthehorsesmouth3790Күн бұрын
I consider it incredible that at the centre of this debate in todays cultures are 2 conjunctive words. 1) God "IS" dead. 2) God "WAS" dead. Out of which ever conjunction you believe is most correct, logically flow substantially different worldviews. The will of power, or the will of love.
@woodtier-gv8heКүн бұрын
Look at Apple's recent ad and how it was received. People want to be grounded, and a lot of kids aren't and this is the real danger. In a church you will see people desperately yearning for God. We have gone through an age of comfort, but things are changing. Church is changing. It's quite the undoing of everything gone wrong as you dig into Christ. Is he a gentle beast or a stoic man or a heroic figure? A bit of all? Then think of all the historic figures and there's no doubt they lack something or were simply cruel or vain.
@robertmcclintock8701Күн бұрын
＼(^-^)／ It's not moral for God to put evidence of himself in the biology. The atheists were tricked into exploring that and they found no evidence of God in the biology. Now that it's been explored we can do disclosure now. They think everything is worth doing once. This is an exceptional planet that explored everything possible but it gave us problems that most planets don't experience. People are lost in a dead universe and it makes bad outcomes. Disclosure will solve all our problems.
@robertmcclintock8701Күн бұрын
:-> The human body is burly, gnarly and surly like a fractal.
@robertmcclintock8701Күн бұрын
(^^)d Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
@robertmcclintock8701Күн бұрын
(*^^*) Waves are conservation of anarchy. Only a created universe can conserve anarchy. Theory of relator that not made public yet is a theory of anarchy that can change waves so you can make love on the guitar instead of crying. People will feel affection again and become nonviolent and civilized. Child abuse corrupts affection. If theirs an easy remedy for corrupted affection they will stop Child abuse because it will be a risky waste of time. Theory of relator is the last big science idea. Too much science will have us lost forever. We can be endlessly creative with only that.
@fernandoformeloza4107Күн бұрын
Loved all the inputs given. Very thoughtful and thought provoking
@michaelnewsham1412Күн бұрын
That's why they picked Alex- they knew he would be too nice and polite to openly disagree- and even then had to outnumber him three to one . Why not have, say, Stephen Woodford (Rationality Rules) to balance? "We can;t have somebody on who disagrees with us and uses actual numbers and stuff!" You notice they keep saying "A rebirth of God and spirituality against atheist materialism" - and go on to talk about the Bible and going to church- if you are talking about God and spirituality against those nasty New Atheists, why not mention Allah and the Quran and the mosque? Oops, wrong God- of course, only our God is the right one. Those others experiencing a rebirth of faith are deluded (or demon worshippers)..
@michaelhart107219 сағат бұрын
Stephen Woodford is a bore and far less intelligent than Alex. His arguments are pathetically weak and weasley, especially when it comes to trans issues. And you’re missing the point of the conversation. No one is claiming Christianity is springing back into full flourishing, only that the conversation has shifted to be a little more open to Christianity. That’s about it. And no one is denying that Islam is growing at a faster rate in Europe than Christianity or atheism
@sabrinalennox2004Күн бұрын
Georgia Meloni has more courage than all the other European politicians put together. Magnificent
@scottguitar8168Күн бұрын
I don't think Alex is saying Christianity didn't contribute but rather it wants to take credit when it deserves none.
@michaelhart107219 сағат бұрын
If it contributed then Christianity deserves some of the credit
@scottguitar81686 сағат бұрын
@@michaelhart1072 Absolutely and Christianity does deserve a lot of credit as well as criticism when it fails.
@scottguitar8168Күн бұрын
While it is technically true that we don't know where it all started, we have an understanding how natural formations occur without the property of intelligence compared to an understanding of created things here on earth with the property of intelligence. We also know that energy cannot be created, thus no Creator. Energy existing eternally could even be an explanation for God's existence if one exists, but it also works as a start of it all with only natural reactions to get us to where we are today. I don't think Intelligence has been established or we would be debating advanced aliens vs. Gods, but that doesn't necessarily mean Intelligence wasn't required to get the ball rolling. We don't fully have a natural explanation, thus it leaves room to insert Gods/Goddesses or any other filler for our ignorance.
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It seems to me that the the central theme of Christianity is faith. God is only hidden in a way to excite a longing for him. That longing can only be satisfied through faith. Pragmatism only goes so far, it is only through faith that you can see him clearly.
The real test of a Christian 'revival' is a increasing awareness of sin, not just 'wrongdoing' (which is helpful) but wrongdoing in relation to God.
I think that's a brilliant way to put it: if he's God, then of course he rose from the dead. Thank you!
things have really changed,, alex refering to christianity in reference to jesus rather than judgeing christianity by those who call themselves christians is a huge change,
Wishful thinking.....
It's accurate, rather than wishful. I'd recommend reading Justin's book.
I’d love to see you in conversation with Alex
Me too :)
You do a good job of looking at this respectfully and with no frothing at the mount. Applause for that I see too much frothing on all sides! Personally, I think you got a few things wrong but I’m an atheist, so not surprising.
Excellent content- both the original discussion and the commentary. Impressed and subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
As a fellow believer in Jesus. We can only hope for one another's salvation!!
As a Christian, it's an exciting time to watch this all play out.
You can not try your way into faith. You have to allow faith and the truth to unfold. It's about acceptance and allowing and needing to understand the truth more than anything else. It's always been up to God to reveal who he is and it is also up to God to conceal who he is. However people have always concealed what God has revealed or revealing, because they don't want it to be true. The intelligence that you are all benefiting from came through another, and you gave them no credit, no honour, pushed that one out of their place and space, constantly reaped the work and benefitted immenseley only to oppress that one. Including their ideas, thoughts, emotions, feelings, who they are and you made it your own, trouble is none of you are that. So now, the reality is to come into being, because you will now all be cut off from that access, and see the reality of yourselves and the standard that you really have. You benefited from another and you treated that other like garbage. None of you have any sort of integrity or honour. When you have access to intelligence of another, you behave like pompous prigs. The intellectual pride and vanity is disgusting, particularly when you have been robbing the intelligence of another, been vain about it and then treating them like garbage. You left them on their own so they have no conversation or relationship with anyone while you can have conversations and relationships with whoever you feel like, even though you don't deserve to. Not on.
Ive considered this for decades in my connection with divinity and nudism. The whole church based idea of not placing temptation in front of others is flawed. Nudity equals lust is the common trope. Yet how many sins clothes tempt into existence? Are clothes not a symbol to men if status placimg one above others, dies that status not create envy in others less fortunate? Dies it not provide a shroud to hide the teue sepf behind to those your equal to as gods children.? Your nakedness is your creation in gods image to hide it means what ? Deceprion , rejection, man manipulatimg others. It doesnt stop lust to be clothed in fact it increases it as then the mind creates mystery wonder to see what god created. Fir example a skimpy bikini to most is more seductive tham seeing a nude female. In short nuduty us teuth and clothes hide the truth. Truth is always sought by man. You sumply cant jydge a mans worldly wealth when conversing with him nude. You can only see him as your equal you knkw nithing of his material wealth or financial ability, nothing if his social placement cinstructed in society you see nothing but the pure unalduterterated creation of god unpolluted by mans manipulations. For what reason to to prevemt men from committing sinful acts of lust? In a day where lust us ysed to sell products , in a day where women gain wealth from feeding lust. Lust usnt to be shielded its to be controlled by mam as he recognizes the sins it can cause yet its integral as we must lust to form desire be it lusting for love a wife ir even a realationship with christ. Lust is natural and of gods intended creation its nit a flaw of his perfect design but like many things it can be a tool of good and evil that choice lies soley in the freewill given to man by god. One of the prime examples of why church fails often as it attemptrs to stand betweem man and God. Where in the bible does it say any man has the authority to stand between God and his creation? Or simply the anti christ camnot exust with out church and religion as they are the creators as they teach false prophecies to maintian authority over those weak in gods word seekimg to be told what it says and willing to submit their aurhoeitie in christ over to other men risking thier salvation on words other men tell them. To fear hell so much surely one canvsee how foolish it is to trust orher mens understandings risking eternal salvation doing so.
I agree Alex is incorrect about the impact of Christianity. I wonder if he understands that the Christian story accounts for the exact way that moral progress has played out? Humans are responsible for the slowness of progress, because humans are sinful and hard-hearted by nature. God planted the seeds at every key point in history as detailed in the biblical narrative, with the final seed being the death of Christ, and the kingdom of heaven sprouting as like a mustard seed with his resurrection. Seed sprouts grow slowly. It's all there in the biblical canon.
Yes, yeast-through-dough and mustard-seed-to-tree are slow but thorough growths
Glenn, please continue 'speaking life' this way - you are one of the few commentators that is not just interrupting a great conversation but highlighting it with very meaningful comments. Thanks for your work here!
Thanks!
Jesus is appearing in dreams to Iranians with lots of people converting to Christianity.
Christians have grown too fond of modern western culture, especially evangelicals, despite it being directly against christianity. Yes there are elements of westernism pulled from christianity such as personal liberty and all being created equal. But the womans rights movement had nothing to do with christianity. This modern materialism where we are focussed more on what we obtain in this world rather than who we obtain for the next. The American patriotism where God has become equal to country. We must be careful when saying western principles come from christianity because when I look at the west, God is nowhere in sight.
More plausible: Joseph of Arimathea went to claim the body but it had already been dumped into a mass grave. Telling this to the disciples would have been heartbreaking so he tells them its in the tomb. A few believers hear of this and a few days layer the tomb is opened to check. Body not there. The sightings thereafter are fabrications to support the narrative of resurrection.
Ok, but at least one of the gospels claims the women were with him. They would have known he was lying. It seems strange to take the details about Joseph of Arimathea as factual while ignoring the the other claims. Why can't the part about Joseph also be wrong?
Why are the women in Marks account going to prepare the body with spices? The reason you put spices and prepare the body for burial is to disguise the smell. Once a body is already buried there is absoloutely no point in doing it and after a day that body would be stinking anyway. Add the fact that it's against Jewish law for women to prepare a man for burial and the story becomes a little bit suspect. The writer needs a reason for someone to find an empty tomb. What does an empty tomb mean?
If this lady has become Christian because her heart and soul was lonely without Christ that can only be applauded. The liberal Anglican Church in UK, might have a problem because they don’t believe in the other dimension.I know a lot of Marxists who became Christian in 1990’s, because they liked Jesus as a man. They also thought if they could turn the church into a non spiritual place, they could break down all cultural barriers which stood between anglicans and Muslims, for instance, as people will fight for a spiritual entity more than a nice man from the bible. Some of these people became vicars. The fact that people are now becoming Christian because they want people to unite behind a spiritual being to give us strength to fight the enemy, is going to bring about some very interesting results in the church of England.
50 years ago I and a great many of my age peers looked longingly for musical and cultural influences toward Britain. Not just the Beatles but groups with sounds harkening back to pre-Christian folk roots like Pentangle, Donovan, Steeleye Span, even Jethro Tull to a great extent. Along with the rebellion fostered in my heart I pursued these sounds and lyrics with a fervor as if to bring forth from the ancestral past a sense of the world void of any Christian influence as if that were purest and most innocent. What the culmination of that pursuit has lead to 30,40,50 years on is something that looks like the Streets of Kensington in Philadelphia.
Sorry, but your critique of AOC on the failings of the church regarding slavery etc was almost disingenuous. He didn’t explicitly attribute those advancements to the enlightenment yet that’s where you take your aim. You then acknowledge the failings of the church over 2 millennia but focus only on the belated Christian action. This is the point! It took almost 2 millennia to get there! Why? Not just because Christians didn’t act on their beliefs - but also because the manual was/is deficient and (to be charitable) contradictory in terms of its ethics. It really won’t do to appeal to yeast and acorns.
Really interesting video on a really interesting video! Thank you. 🙏🏻 One *correction* if I may. You say marital rape was only outlawed in the 1970s. (I assume you mean in the UK). In fact, it wasn’t until 1992 following R v R appealed in the House of Lords (no Supreme Court then) that it became illegal for a husband to rape his wife. 1992. 😢
Who said atheists are rational? They usually are false to the core.
So good! So the question to the Christian is: are you up for being part of Hid purposes now. Are you read to welcome non-typical christians into your communities of faith.
I’d like to know views on the rise in ‘deconstructionism’ in Christianity. ‘A tidal wave’ is how some describe it.
What if we instead learned to abandon this desire/need for meaning and acceptance instead of inventing narratives that patch up that hole?
Not likely
@@michaelhart1072 Maybe not, but what if?
Makes perfect sense, Gary Habermas and his magnum opus is of "zero" use to convince anyone other than people who are already believers of "Christ is Lord".
Alex has brought up some significant questions and issues, which I believe can be addressed . It's important to acknowledge that the history of Christendom is not without its controversies , and must not be whitewashed. For instance, during the peak of apartheid in South Africa, the Dutch Reformed Church, which was then the official state religion, regrettably supported the apartheid ideology as a divine mandate. The church misinterpreted biblical texts to convince the populace that racial segregation and the subjugation of Black South Africans were divinely sanctioned. Sadly, other denominations in South Africa acquiesced to this doctrine, and only a courageous few dared to contest these erroneous teachings, often at great personal cost . It's worth noting that among the groups that actively resisted apartheid, Jehovah's Witnesses were particularly notable. They firmly opposed the regime's oppressive policies and, as a result, many young men from their community chose imprisonment over being conscripted into military service where they would be forced to participate in acts of violence against Black South Africans. Despite facing intense persecution, often with the state church's endorsement of such treatment, Jehovah's Witnesses stood firm in their convictions, demonstrating moral courage in the face of widespread injustice. I know this , as I was one of those young men at the time , and remember the harship and the sacrifices that they were making to honour God and their consciences .😢
God is impersonal. He doesn't care how you spend your life.
That's not the God of Christianity. He is in fact the exact opposite.
@@HearGodsWord No one has seen God. Therefore God is unknowable. Therefore he is impersonal.
The Church isn't a museum for Saints, but a hospital for sinners. Go there to heal not because you are healed.
I am an Atheist and you Christians are changing me.. Not!!!😂
Zing! Got us!! 😂
"There's a stone in my chest. Where a heart is supposed to be. Can you pulverize, tenderize, expand it, Set it free? "Evolve Me, Jesus, Let the Big Bang happen. Let me hear the sound Of your hands clapping. Evolve Me, Jesus. "Hydrogen, helium, fusion, Transformation, The Trinity inviting us Into fiery relation. "Evolve Me Jesus, In your family forever. With your pure passion, Build us together. Evolve Me Jesus. "We've got the nucleotides, C, G, T, and A. If they could get together, We could have DNA. "Evolve Me, Jesus, Let the pieces fit. Teach me to pray, Not stray or quit. Evolve Me, Jesus. "The pond is drying up The mountain is getting warm. Anyone with an idea, Raise a wing or arm. "Evolve Me, Jesus, Leave my sin behind. Burst the old wineskins, Splash the new wine. Evolve Me, Jesus. Dan Eumurian Item #22 here: www.lacrossepiano.com/songs-poems-etc
"of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe."- Merriam Webster definition of supernatural. what do we call something that fits the definition of supernatural?
Skepticism is a form of idolatry
How, specifically?
I'm not sure that it is. Looking as doubting Thomas would be good to consider.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor master, nor is there man or woman, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" Gal. 3:28 This is 2k years old. Let that sink in.
ChatGPT: "Convincing Justin That Feelings Do Not Constitute Evidence 1. Define Evidence Objective vs. Subjective: Clarify the distinction between objective evidence and subjective feelings. Objective Evidence: Facts, data, and observable phenomena that can be independently verified. Subjective Feelings: Personal experiences and emotions that are internal and cannot be independently verified. 2. Establish the Importance of Evidence Scientific Method: Emphasize the importance of the scientific method in establishing reliable knowledge. Reproducibility: Evidence should be reproducible by others under similar conditions. Falsifiability: Good evidence should be able to be tested and potentially disproven. 3. Use Analogies Courtroom Analogy: Compare beliefs based on feelings to a courtroom scenario. Evidence in Court: In a legal case, decisions are made based on evidence, not the feelings of those involved. Reliable Outcomes: Highlight how this approach ensures fair and reliable outcomes. 4. Highlight Cognitive Biases Confirmation Bias: Explain how people tend to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or feelings. Impact on Perception: This can lead to the misinterpretation of feelings as evidence. 5. Present Contradictory Examples Diverse Feelings: Show that feelings vary greatly among individuals and can lead to contradictory conclusions. Different Beliefs: People of various religions or no religion at all have strong feelings that support their own beliefs. 6. Reference Psychological Studies Placebo Effect: Use examples from psychological studies where the placebo effect demonstrates the power of belief and feelings without real efficacy. False Positives: Feelings can produce strong convictions even in the absence of actual evidence. 7. Discuss the Role of Evidence in Belief Formation Healthy Skepticism: Encourage a skeptical approach where beliefs are proportionate to the evidence supporting them. Critical Thinking: Emphasize the need for critical thinking and skepticism in evaluating beliefs. 8. Introduce the Concept of Parsimony Occam's Razor: Explain the principle that, among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Minimizing Assumptions: Feelings often introduce numerous assumptions that are not necessary if they lack supporting evidence. 9. Address Emotional Investment Emotional Commitment: Acknowledge that emotional investment can make it hard to separate feelings from evidence. Self-Reflection: Encourage Justin to reflect on whether his feelings are clouding his judgment. 10. Practical Steps Verification: Suggest Justin seek ways to independently verify his feelings with objective data. Peer Review: Encourage discussing his views with skeptics or those holding different beliefs to test their robustness. Balanced Approach: Recommend balancing subjective experiences with objective evidence to form a more comprehensive understanding. By approaching the conversation with empathy, respect, and clear reasoning, you can help Justin understand that while feelings are valid and important, they do not alone constitute evidence."
Having faith is not all you need. The Bible, especially James, is clear about what you need. You need both faith and works to be saved. Period. Anyone that tells you anything different teaches something other than what the Bible says. YOU MUST HAVE BOTH.
I honestly don't see it. It looks to me like society is becoming increasingly post-Christian. In a thoroughly post-Christian society (which the English speaking world hasn't reached yet, especially the US, but western continental Europe mostly has) Christians aren't seen as a threat anymore and so they're more tolerated. And anyone can talk about Christian ideas just like we can talk about myth and literature in general.
Well dah! "Minimal facts argument" is not the only argument much less the be all or end all on the subject. It helps to engage at a level above prepubescent.
I consider it incredible that at the centre of this debate in todays cultures are 2 conjunctive words. 1) God "IS" dead. 2) God "WAS" dead. Out of which ever conjunction you believe is most correct, logically flow substantially different worldviews. The will of power, or the will of love.
Look at Apple's recent ad and how it was received. People want to be grounded, and a lot of kids aren't and this is the real danger. In a church you will see people desperately yearning for God. We have gone through an age of comfort, but things are changing. Church is changing. It's quite the undoing of everything gone wrong as you dig into Christ. Is he a gentle beast or a stoic man or a heroic figure? A bit of all? Then think of all the historic figures and there's no doubt they lack something or were simply cruel or vain.
＼(^-^)／ It's not moral for God to put evidence of himself in the biology. The atheists were tricked into exploring that and they found no evidence of God in the biology. Now that it's been explored we can do disclosure now. They think everything is worth doing once. This is an exceptional planet that explored everything possible but it gave us problems that most planets don't experience. People are lost in a dead universe and it makes bad outcomes. Disclosure will solve all our problems.
:-> The human body is burly, gnarly and surly like a fractal.
(^^)d Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.
(*^^*) Waves are conservation of anarchy. Only a created universe can conserve anarchy. Theory of relator that not made public yet is a theory of anarchy that can change waves so you can make love on the guitar instead of crying. People will feel affection again and become nonviolent and civilized. Child abuse corrupts affection. If theirs an easy remedy for corrupted affection they will stop Child abuse because it will be a risky waste of time. Theory of relator is the last big science idea. Too much science will have us lost forever. We can be endlessly creative with only that.
Loved all the inputs given. Very thoughtful and thought provoking
That's why they picked Alex- they knew he would be too nice and polite to openly disagree- and even then had to outnumber him three to one . Why not have, say, Stephen Woodford (Rationality Rules) to balance? "We can;t have somebody on who disagrees with us and uses actual numbers and stuff!" You notice they keep saying "A rebirth of God and spirituality against atheist materialism" - and go on to talk about the Bible and going to church- if you are talking about God and spirituality against those nasty New Atheists, why not mention Allah and the Quran and the mosque? Oops, wrong God- of course, only our God is the right one. Those others experiencing a rebirth of faith are deluded (or demon worshippers)..
Stephen Woodford is a bore and far less intelligent than Alex. His arguments are pathetically weak and weasley, especially when it comes to trans issues. And you’re missing the point of the conversation. No one is claiming Christianity is springing back into full flourishing, only that the conversation has shifted to be a little more open to Christianity. That’s about it. And no one is denying that Islam is growing at a faster rate in Europe than Christianity or atheism
Georgia Meloni has more courage than all the other European politicians put together. Magnificent
I don't think Alex is saying Christianity didn't contribute but rather it wants to take credit when it deserves none.
If it contributed then Christianity deserves some of the credit
@@michaelhart1072 Absolutely and Christianity does deserve a lot of credit as well as criticism when it fails.
While it is technically true that we don't know where it all started, we have an understanding how natural formations occur without the property of intelligence compared to an understanding of created things here on earth with the property of intelligence. We also know that energy cannot be created, thus no Creator. Energy existing eternally could even be an explanation for God's existence if one exists, but it also works as a start of it all with only natural reactions to get us to where we are today. I don't think Intelligence has been established or we would be debating advanced aliens vs. Gods, but that doesn't necessarily mean Intelligence wasn't required to get the ball rolling. We don't fully have a natural explanation, thus it leaves room to insert Gods/Goddesses or any other filler for our ignorance.