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  @niklasstojanovic97848 күн бұрын

  Wooooooow

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  @niklasstojanovic97848 күн бұрын

  Krazy dude 😮

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  @nielsbaardseth8 күн бұрын

  @@niklasstojanovic9784 Thanks! 🤙🤙

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  @danielrichards12118 күн бұрын

  Awesome I have a gen 4 to but only have a little boy battery for now 10s 4p and it goes like hell, cant wat till I get my second battery and double the voltage

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  @tomindia942019 күн бұрын

  after 10 minutes battery 0%, bigger battery less voltage drop, looks like the voltage drops very far 67v, make the battery pack bigger, u will have a lot more speed

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  @rickstard7320 күн бұрын

  Thanks so much for this video, this is great, can't wait to get mine in the next couple of days, this video is going to push me to do it quicker 😍

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  @nielsbaardseth20 күн бұрын

  Full blast man! Life as it should be! 🤙🤙

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  @rickstard7320 күн бұрын

  @nielsbaardseth 100%, I've been waiting to do this since the beginning of the year, your video helped me commit yesterday 😊

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  @ericthedesigner27 күн бұрын

  I've destroyed 5 rear axles but I think it is because my wheels are junk. Building up a sur ron rear wheel for this motor, surprisingly fits on a 135mm mtb with no mods.

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  @danielrichards12118 күн бұрын

  Ye I put one on my Cannondale Jekkel 700 no problem there pretty well sorted out

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  @ericthedesigner27 күн бұрын

  72 volts is the secret sauce! Manual specs out 84 volt batteries too!!! I love that the controller just handles any battery set up, just turn it on and it works. No jerry rigging anything.

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  @nielsbaardseth27 күн бұрын

  72v fully charged is 84v. But yes, you need a 72v to turn the dial to 11. 😎

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  @freextr6 күн бұрын

  ​@@nielsbaardsethbrand of battery?

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  @nielsbaardseth6 күн бұрын

  @@freextr Usually Sony vtc6, but in this vid Panasonic ncr18650bd. 15ah 72v

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  @freextr6 күн бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth custom built?

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  @nielsbaardseth6 күн бұрын

  @@freextr Yes, just simple 5p times 20.

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  @ericthedesigner27 күн бұрын

  I'm on the gen 4 also and I am so blown away. Been riding BBSHD since it came out and got the CYC on launch day. I'm really looking forward to new batteries on my system this fall. I'm running dual 52 volt 19AH batteries with only a 40 amp bms. The battery I'm building is a 40AH with a 150 amp bms . That should cover the total power of this motor! LOVE the CYC. My bike climbs anything I through at it. Even on 52 volts I see the meter hit 4500 and 4800 watts at full charge.

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  @nielsbaardseth27 күн бұрын

  Nice man! Yes, incredible brutal fun. Life as it should be! 🤙🤙

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  @yohvh29 күн бұрын

  what are the total build costs. I am yet not into mtb's or specs world. I just want to figure out how much a high powered setup should cost me.

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  @nielsbaardseth29 күн бұрын

  Excact total is hard to say. But roughly you need a good DH bike. 1000-2000eur (or way more....) Kit with battery 2000-2500 eur In this case special rear wheel 500 eur.

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  @danielrichards12118 күн бұрын

  In England I got just the motor for £1200 then got a 10s 36v 10ah battery cheep off Ebay for £80 till I can get a big one

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  @Greg-me8leАй бұрын

  How much louder is the CYC than the Bafang BBSHD. I live in the tropics and don't have hills or mountains. But I am attracted to the quality of the CYC motor and speed. But if it is too loud that would not be enjoyable for my use.

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  I have never ridden a 72v HD so I can not say. But it is way louder than the stock HD. Of course 4 times stronger too....... Try to find a HD video with some real power and hard riding and I will be impressed. So much talk, so little proof. 🤔

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  @danielrichards12118 күн бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth oor pore dedums because power is paulie portrayed on a video I have a gen 4 on a 36v battery and it will flip you off if you hit it to hard. can't wat till I get some real power to it

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  @BramBiesiekierskiАй бұрын

  Can you give more details on the 2 speed rear setup?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  It is a Paul Comp single speed hub with a White Industries One way. A 5mm thick steel adaptor from the One way to a 32t and a 36t steel 104 chain ring. The Zee derailleur is widend to fit single speed chain. And I use a friction shifter on the handlebar to adjust. I can not shift while riding. I had this setup for 4 years now. It can really take anything.

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  @BramBiesiekierskiАй бұрын

  Thanks for the fast reply. That is an interesting solution. I know the pain of trying to find robust and reliable drivetrain solutions for hi power eMTB applications. It is very niche area. There are alot of hi power e bikes getting around now. But in the eMTB specific trail/enduro space it's difficult. I went through a number of unreliable drivetrain configs. And that's with about 15% power of what your bike has. I eventually landed on a kindernay vii IGH. Which has had alot of minor problems, but has remained overall reliable so far. Im now looking to go 72v CYC on an upcoming build. I did just purchase one of the last remaining kindernay vii from the post bankruptcy inventory. But that was more so I can keep the current bafang ultra / e22 combo alive incase of parts failures. I dont need 7 gears. I really only need 3 gears, with wide ratio pacing. A climb gear. An acceleration gear. And a top speed gear. And that pretty much covers all the trail/enduro terrain i ride.

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  @BramBiesiekierskiАй бұрын

  When you say you can't shift while riding? Do you mean powered?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@BramBiesiekierski No, I have to stop and move the chain by hand/fot. Not while rolling. It works like 2 single speed, not 2 speed. But 80kph as low is ok for most.riding.

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  @BramBiesiekierskiАй бұрын

  Ok, i understand. How do you find not having changeable gearing specifc while doing eMTB trail riding use? I can imagine the motor has no major issues pulling all the way. But human legs don't have that same wide operating range. I know I hate the feeling of my bike travelling faster than I can pedal (eg stuck in too low gear) and equally climbing can be hard when not matched to the pedalling speed (even if the motor has no problem pulling) I came here after watching your recent CYC at Malaga video. So this Q is more relevant to that setup.

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  @ElectricMancАй бұрын

  nice bike im new to these bikes I know it depends on ur riding but roughly how many miles do u get on a full charge and does the pedleling work with motor or is it just throttle thanks

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  The CYC motors probably have the best pedal assist system of all diy kits. Very close to factory emtbs. But on this bike I use throttle only. This type of riding pulls battery, I get 20km. But if It was pedaling I would get 50-60km. No problem commuting.

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  @log7186Ай бұрын

  Very nice 👍 I’m ordering one bit unsure about the battery what’s urs .

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Enjoy! In this vid I have a 72v, 15ah 120A peak battery. 20ah would have been better, but 80 A cont and 120-130A peak is enough. It uses about 35-40wh a km with this type of riding.

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  @log7186Ай бұрын

  Sweet did you have it custom built or bought built

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@log7186 I built it myself based on several previous builds I have done. It is important to plan the type of use and spesialize the build in that direction. This bike is for mx/enduro. 60kph top speed only, pulls like a beast within that speed. I has lasted for 4 years now. (Several motors)

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  @cheekonvАй бұрын

  Hows this compare to the LR and Nucular?

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  @NATO-SOCOMАй бұрын

  Sick asf … I absolutely love mine.. it turns a mtn bike into a whole new animal lol

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  @cheekonvАй бұрын

  Do you like CYC vs LR with Nucular

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  @cheekonvАй бұрын

  Are RHD im specing up doing LHD already have Nucular with Mxus 3k im on similar speeds but hub always worried id break it. Mid drive less stress

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Hubs can be super fun but not so much off road. Heavy on the rear section. Watch the uphill vid to really see what a mid can do.

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  @cheekonvАй бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Yes totally agree i dont have enough Amp like your pack its only 20S7P 105Amp continious.

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  @kitler01Ай бұрын

  Is it better than the lightning rods motor ?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  That is a very good question. They are very different. The cyc is by far the best for trial type riding. Techy and lot's of torque needed very fast. Still way more power than most need. And you also have the super.good pas. The BB feels 2x the power and is brutal. Great for wider areas and very high speed riding. On my bike it was too big for techy riding, but maybe with another gearing. I really enjoyed it and have it ready for another day.

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  @kitler01Ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth I’m torn between the two I guess they work out to similar money once a controller is bought. Was the bb a lot of work to fit as I know the cyc is very diy friendly and what kind of range do you get, your run a 72v 15ah pack don’t you

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@kitler01 It really comes down to your frame and how you plan to ride. The BB is big and need a special drive train. So far you can not pedal with a BB unless you go for the extra stage gear box. It is close to a mc motor with all its glory and you can ride it full blast all day long. The Cyc is still a mtb motor and can fit a frame better if you are going real off road. It has superb Pas and can be ridden pretty hard on a 8x drivetrain. The BB pulls more wh if you ride it hard, but they are not that different. 30-45 wh a km depending on style throttle riding.

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  @kitler01Ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth thank you for the info I think I’ll probably go with the cyc as I’d like to pedal sometimes. I had a 12kw stealth bomber previously and that thing was a nightmare when the battery died it was impossible to ride

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  @jdien397Ай бұрын

  Hola, en modo street, solo pedaleando en Pas 1 o 2 , el motor suena mucho ?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Hi, no. But more than a factory emtb.

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  @AlexOdjasАй бұрын

  Cool👍 Does the engine run normally in one gear? Heating, overload? I'm thinking of buying the same engine and am faced with choosing a transmission. SRAM 12 speed is probably not suitable for such CYC power

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Thanks! I have 2 gears, both pretty low. 45kph and 60kph. But I do not pedal on this bike. Many are using 8 speed cassette/chain with the X1. It is a challenge though, you can not ride like this with a normal drive train. The motor has heat protection at 85c. It has not been a problem with heat on this gen 4 kit. But of course, a bit of feel is needed. Join the cyc owners FB and get all tips there.

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  @tonytoberАй бұрын

  What do you mean by a normal drivetrain? What is "special" about yours that make it so it can handle the power?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@tonytober A mtb drivetrain can not handle 11kw power. My drivetrain is custom made to take the power. A normal mtb gearing would not make that run. That is why you don't see many vids like this. Single speed hub and chain, White Industries one way. Steel 104 chainring in the back. Held up for 4 years now. Only changing chains..

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  @tonytoberАй бұрын

  I hope one day there will be monoblock multispeed cassettes so a middrive can be fully used

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@tonytoberI agree. The challenge is also the hub itself. Just copy mine. Only high and low gear is needed. 🤙🤙

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  @ChapuzasconRoberАй бұрын

  Can't wait for see it! I love your builds.

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  @inderjitbhatti8036Ай бұрын

  I'm sold! Thank you. I'm ordering my X1 next week with CYCs new 52v battery. Once I've got it up and running in a couple of months, I'll post a video

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Nice man! It is brutal fun. 🤙🤙

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  @dporrasxtremeLS325 күн бұрын

  Go 72V. !

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  @inderjitbhatti8036Ай бұрын

  What are your thoughts on the motors reliability? Ive heard so many people complain about it and has left me undecided whether to buy this or stick with Bafang

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  I have ridden Cyc kits to the max since 2019. Been part of the development of the Gen 4. I have had that motor since August 2023 and I have not been able to break anything so far and as you can see I don't hold back. The gen 4 have been bullet proof. The HD is a good motor, I have had one, but it needs heavy tuning to get to an ok power level and still we are at 50% of the Cyc in overall power and no torque sensor. (50% as the HD can only take 90 phase amps, the X1 200)

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  @ventureimagery6370Ай бұрын

  Cool video and nice build

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  @po9000Ай бұрын

  This is sick af

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Thanks, glad you liked it. 🤙

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  @danielrichards12118 күн бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth he's right it's awesome

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  @OneCosmic749Ай бұрын

  You have yet to show us what this motor can do

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  I have no clue what you want to see dude. My setp is for exactly this purpose. Top speed is for somebody else. Sorry Get any other motor to replicate what I just did....... specially a HD that would be really nice since they are the shit......

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  @cilamiАй бұрын

  Just for curiosity...at what speed were you going downhill? Scary for my level.

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  20kph average. But the gopro effect was positive this time. Not that nice to the jumps and steep sections though....😉

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  @DereckHowertonАй бұрын

  Hi Niels, nice video! What display are you using?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Thanks! It is a 750c. Old one. Get the 103 for 72v now.

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  @shaneanagramsАй бұрын

  Messing up trails like every other e-biker. Great.

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  Why the hate man? Are you alone on your analog? In this country we embrace motors. This is ebike territory.

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  @OneCosmic749Ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth High power ebikes instead of cars FTW :)

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  @ridingdirty2412Ай бұрын

  Thats how hikers talk to MTB. The hate cycle keeps rolling

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  @@ridingdirty2412 Here in Spain the mtb'ers are the kings. Walkers jump aside while saying sorry when they realize they are in a mtb trial. Not like Norway or other parts of the world.

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  @NATO-SOCOMАй бұрын

  In what way shape or form did he “mess up the trail? He has every right to be on that trail, same as anybody else does on a regular mtn bike. He’s doing something he enjoys, same as someone on a regular bike, do you go back up the trail with a rake and a shovel every time you ride a trail or something? lol

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  @rirrid5662Ай бұрын

  How do you like the feel of the torque sensing?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  I don't pedal at all on this bike, the gearing is way too low. But I have the Stealth and Photon motors too and the torque sensing is really good. Factory emtb feel.

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  @rirrid566211 күн бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Thanks. How do you find the weight distribution with your setup and what kind of range do you get depending on riding style?

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  @nielsbaardseth11 күн бұрын

  @@rirrid5662 It rides allmost as balanced as stock bike. But of course you feel the weight. Like a small mx. I get 35-40wh a km riding like an idiot......

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  @rirrid566210 күн бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Thanks again.That's still a decent range. Wondering if you could give your superficial opinion on the suitability of the Commencal FRS. It's at the top of my list for almost a carbon copy of your set up configuration. I can link the bike if you prefer not to google it.

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  @nielsbaardseth10 күн бұрын

  @@rirrid5662 Nice! Should work well. Good luck!

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  @mattia7982Ай бұрын

  Crazy !

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  @HighVoltageKitsАй бұрын

  Knarly AF

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  @malachiorgad9689Ай бұрын

  This is asi controller? U don’t have cutoffs?

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  @nielsbaardsethАй бұрын

  No, it is Cyc X12 controller. No cut outs. Asi cuts like crazy. It has way to low spike amps.

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  @Jerm3yАй бұрын

  🔥🔥🔥

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  @leongster5889Ай бұрын

  Life - as it should be!

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  @LenswideАй бұрын

  Super!!

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  @vectorvector-up1ncАй бұрын

  Nice run!

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  @Michael-hh7nlАй бұрын

  F%ck Yeah! Nice build.

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  @bruiserdog66622 ай бұрын

  What battery do you use

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  @nielsbaardseth2 ай бұрын

  It was a 72v 15ah 120A peak pack. The X1 pulls 100A+.

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  @em13thirteen4 ай бұрын

  That's looks like so much fun lol

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  @juice97676 ай бұрын

  Sweet Build and love the footage Shows it's Beastly capabilities 👍👏👏👏

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  @Destructor80317 ай бұрын

  whats your range with that 15ah battery?

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  @Certyx8 ай бұрын

  Do you have chain problems like it snapping off and you having to buy new ones often ? Because my type of riding would look somewhat close to yours, with the exception that I will be trying to wheelie with throttle only (not for long periods of time of course, I'm well aware the motor will start overheating). I'm also planning on getting the CYC X1 Pro gen 3 motor

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  @nielsbaardseth8 ай бұрын

  The drivetrain can take everything. Up a rock garden or a stair at full power or landings with throttle on is the hardest. But no problem. Chain lasts about 500km. (Single speed chain) Sprokets are steel. Problem is that Sickbikes are out of business and the main component is a UHD one way on a single speed hub.

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  @Certyx8 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth ah, I'm using 11 spd casette and I will need the gears, so I'm a different case, I read somewhere that a nice rear derailluer and a chain tensioner would help the chain not to skip or brake

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  @nielsbaardseth8 ай бұрын

  @@Certyx The motor will not overheat unless you ride in too high gear or heat. I used a 11x setup with asi 2000 for a long time. It works fine. But when I got the Nucular 12f I broke hub, cassette and chain several times before I built the new drivetrain. You should anyway not use lower than 18t. A good clutch derailleur and b screw tension will usually solve the skipping. Good luck.

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  @petedude2lu39 ай бұрын

  the video is artifacted out in your track, it makes the show hard to watch. in fact, i can see a boundary between artifacted and detail: track and scenery.

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  @nielsbaardseth9 ай бұрын

  Maybe cool down on the artifacted weed bro? 🤔

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  @NexGen-3D9 ай бұрын

  I'm installing one of these kits now on my MTB :)

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  @nielsbaardseth9 ай бұрын

  Enjoy!!

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  @NexGen-3D9 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Just hoping it doesnt twist my Specialized Enduro into a Pretzel :)

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  @NexGen-3D9 ай бұрын

  Went with CVT rear hub and a gates belt drive for it too

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  @nielsbaardseth9 ай бұрын

  @@NexGen-3D Cool, you post it in the cyc group?

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  @NexGen-3D9 ай бұрын

  Not yet, still doing the build, your video made me pull the trigger on the kit :)@@nielsbaardseth

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  @pliopov10 ай бұрын

  Thanks for posting and sharing with us, you have my dreams bike, enjoy it, wow, I will never have the skills to build either and reliable like you, congrats, hat down

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  @nielsbaardseth10 ай бұрын

  Thanks mate! Never is a very long time, no worries You got this! 🙏

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  @pliopov10 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Thanks for the reply, you're right, with kind peoples like you who help and provide informations and forums maybe I'll succeed for this project with the help of you all : ) A rapid question, without the battery and without the price of the stock bike what do you think it have costed you ? If you don't want to discuss about price it's totally fine tho I understand, Cheers

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  @nielsbaardseth10 ай бұрын

  @@pliopov The bike is pretty stock and I bought it for 1500 eur. The main custom part is the rear hub. It is a single speed hub, a very strong one way and steel 104 chain rings. Motor is bolt on with single speed chain.

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  @rirrid566210 ай бұрын

  Hey how is your Saracen holding up to power of the big block? A few of us over at Discord High Voltage are trying to sort out the good from the bad in terms of downhill and long travel bikes when it comes to adding more power. Particularly in regards to the swing arm coping. It seems we come to some kind on initial consensus of the suitability of a bike then someone pops in and tells us they know someone who busted the swing arm on "that" model with a BBSHD. etc and we are back to the drawing board. . What I like about your bike is firstly the look, the suspension, the battery placement, err actually just about everything. Keenly await your response thanks 👍

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  @nielsbaardseth10 ай бұрын

  Hi, that bike has been awsome. I have had a 7kw cyc on it since 2021 and the BB for about a year now. Changed bearings 1 time. And I must say, the front one way on the BB is hugging HARD. I had same on the Cyc gen 1. Very very impressed with the Saracen. It us a 2015 mark2. The first had soft swingarm, mine is very different.

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  @rirrid566210 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Thanks allot. Much appreciated.

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  @happygiraffe978711 ай бұрын

  How did you get the correct cogs on the rear wheel hub? Did you use special freewheel adapter or something similar?

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  @nielsbaardseth11 ай бұрын

  I allready had the cogs and adjusted the front sproket. The rear hub is a single speed hub with a White Industries freewheel. It has an adaptor for 104 sprokets. Custom made. Litterally bullettproof.

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  @happygiraffe978711 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth that's so cool!

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  @motoguru401611 ай бұрын

  What type of display do you have? It isn't the stock one for CYC X1 Pro i guess?

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  @nielsbaardseth11 ай бұрын

  Nucular 12f controller and display.

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  @motoguru401611 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth Do you know how /where to buy one? 🤔

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  @motoguru401611 ай бұрын

  @@nielsbaardseth What do you think about the Nucular 24f controller?

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  @nielsbaardseth11 ай бұрын

  @@motoguru4016 It will work just as well, but is a bit bigger. Not more power as the X1 is allready maxed out.

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  @motoguru401610 ай бұрын

  Can you unveil a bit of mistery about your battery in this setup? What BMS do you have in it, how many amps continuously can this pack produce?

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  @budwhite9781 Жыл бұрын

  Outstanding. I was just looking on the Lightning Rods page, and was thinking about finally doing a build with one of his great motors. Thanks for sharing these stats and specs.