I've destroyed 5 rear axles but I think it is because my wheels are junk. Building up a sur ron rear wheel for this motor, surprisingly fits on a 135mm mtb with no mods.

@danielrichards121

13 күн бұрын

Ye I put one on my Cannondale Jekkel 700 no problem there pretty well sorted out

I'm on the gen 4 also and I am so blown away. Been riding BBSHD since it came out and got the CYC on launch day. I'm really looking forward to new batteries on my system this fall. I'm running dual 52 volt 19AH batteries with only a 40 amp bms. The battery I'm building is a 40AH with a 150 amp bms . That should cover the total power of this motor! LOVE the CYC. My bike climbs anything I through at it. Even on 52 volts I see the meter hit 4500 and 4800 watts at full charge.

@nielsbaardseth

21 күн бұрын

Nice man! Yes, incredible brutal fun. Life as it should be! 🤙🤙

72 volts is the secret sauce! Manual specs out 84 volt batteries too!!! I love that the controller just handles any battery set up, just turn it on and it works. No jerry rigging anything.

@nielsbaardseth

21 күн бұрын

72v fully charged is 84v. But yes, you need a 72v to turn the dial to 11. 😎

@freextr

Күн бұрын

​@@nielsbaardsethbrand of battery?

@nielsbaardseth

Күн бұрын

@@freextr Usually Sony vtc6, but in this vid Panasonic ncr18650bd. 15ah 72v

@freextr

Күн бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth custom built?

@nielsbaardseth

Күн бұрын

@@freextr Yes, just simple 5p times 20.

Sick asf … I absolutely love mine.. it turns a mtn bike into a whole new animal lol

Awesome I have a gen 4 to but only have a little boy battery for now 10s 4p and it goes like hell, cant wat till I get my second battery and double the voltage

I'm sold! Thank you. I'm ordering my X1 next week with CYCs new 52v battery. Once I've got it up and running in a couple of months, I'll post a video

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

Nice man! It is brutal fun. 🤙🤙

@dporrasxtremeLS3

19 күн бұрын

Go 72V. !

Thanks so much for this video, this is great, can't wait to get mine in the next couple of days, this video is going to push me to do it quicker 😍

@nielsbaardseth

15 күн бұрын

Full blast man! Life as it should be! 🤙🤙

@rickstard73

15 күн бұрын

@nielsbaardseth 100%, I've been waiting to do this since the beginning of the year, your video helped me commit yesterday 😊

🔥🔥🔥

Crazy !

This is sick af

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it. 🤙

@danielrichards121

13 күн бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth he's right it's awesome

Wooooooow

Krazy dude 😮

@nielsbaardseth

3 күн бұрын

@@niklasstojanovic9784 Thanks! 🤙🤙

How much louder is the CYC than the Bafang BBSHD. I live in the tropics and don't have hills or mountains. But I am attracted to the quality of the CYC motor and speed. But if it is too loud that would not be enjoyable for my use.

@nielsbaardseth

26 күн бұрын

I have never ridden a 72v HD so I can not say. But it is way louder than the stock HD. Of course 4 times stronger too....... Try to find a HD video with some real power and hard riding and I will be impressed. So much talk, so little proof. 🤔

@danielrichards121

13 күн бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth oor pore dedums because power is paulie portrayed on a video I have a gen 4 on a 36v battery and it will flip you off if you hit it to hard. can't wat till I get some real power to it

Hows this compare to the LR and Nucular?

nice bike im new to these bikes I know it depends on ur riding but roughly how many miles do u get on a full charge and does the pedleling work with motor or is it just throttle thanks

@nielsbaardseth

29 күн бұрын

The CYC motors probably have the best pedal assist system of all diy kits. Very close to factory emtbs. But on this bike I use throttle only. This type of riding pulls battery, I get 20km. But if It was pedaling I would get 50-60km. No problem commuting.

what are the total build costs. I am yet not into mtb's or specs world. I just want to figure out how much a high powered setup should cost me.

@nielsbaardseth

24 күн бұрын

Excact total is hard to say. But roughly you need a good DH bike. 1000-2000eur (or way more....) Kit with battery 2000-2500 eur In this case special rear wheel 500 eur.

@danielrichards121

13 күн бұрын

In England I got just the motor for £1200 then got a 10s 36v 10ah battery cheep off Ebay for £80 till I can get a big one

What are your thoughts on the motors reliability? Ive heard so many people complain about it and has left me undecided whether to buy this or stick with Bafang

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

I have ridden Cyc kits to the max since 2019. Been part of the development of the Gen 4. I have had that motor since August 2023 and I have not been able to break anything so far and as you can see I don't hold back. The gen 4 have been bullet proof. The HD is a good motor, I have had one, but it needs heavy tuning to get to an ok power level and still we are at 50% of the Cyc in overall power and no torque sensor. (50% as the HD can only take 90 phase amps, the X1 200)

Hi Niels, nice video! What display are you using?

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

Thanks! It is a 750c. Old one. Get the 103 for 72v now.

Very nice 👍 I’m ordering one bit unsure about the battery what’s urs .

@nielsbaardseth

29 күн бұрын

Enjoy! In this vid I have a 72v, 15ah 120A peak battery. 20ah would have been better, but 80 A cont and 120-130A peak is enough. It uses about 35-40wh a km with this type of riding.

@log7186

28 күн бұрын

Sweet did you have it custom built or bought built

@nielsbaardseth

28 күн бұрын

@@log7186 I built it myself based on several previous builds I have done. It is important to plan the type of use and spesialize the build in that direction. This bike is for mx/enduro. 60kph top speed only, pulls like a beast within that speed. I has lasted for 4 years now. (Several motors)

Cool👍 Does the engine run normally in one gear? Heating, overload? I'm thinking of buying the same engine and am faced with choosing a transmission. SRAM 12 speed is probably not suitable for such CYC power

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I have 2 gears, both pretty low. 45kph and 60kph. But I do not pedal on this bike. Many are using 8 speed cassette/chain with the X1. It is a challenge though, you can not ride like this with a normal drive train. The motor has heat protection at 85c. It has not been a problem with heat on this gen 4 kit. But of course, a bit of feel is needed. Join the cyc owners FB and get all tips there.

@tonytober

Ай бұрын

What do you mean by a normal drivetrain? What is "special" about yours that make it so it can handle the power?

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

@@tonytober A mtb drivetrain can not handle 11kw power. My drivetrain is custom made to take the power. A normal mtb gearing would not make that run. That is why you don't see many vids like this. Single speed hub and chain, White Industries one way. Steel 104 chainring in the back. Held up for 4 years now. Only changing chains..

@tonytober

Ай бұрын

I hope one day there will be monoblock multispeed cassettes so a middrive can be fully used

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

@@tonytoberI agree. The challenge is also the hub itself. Just copy mine. Only high and low gear is needed. 🤙🤙

Knarly AF

This is asi controller? U don’t have cutoffs?

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

No, it is Cyc X12 controller. No cut outs. Asi cuts like crazy. It has way to low spike amps.

Is it better than the lightning rods motor ?

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

That is a very good question. They are very different. The cyc is by far the best for trial type riding. Techy and lot's of torque needed very fast. Still way more power than most need. And you also have the super.good pas. The BB feels 2x the power and is brutal. Great for wider areas and very high speed riding. On my bike it was too big for techy riding, but maybe with another gearing. I really enjoyed it and have it ready for another day.

@kitler01

Ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth I’m torn between the two I guess they work out to similar money once a controller is bought. Was the bb a lot of work to fit as I know the cyc is very diy friendly and what kind of range do you get, your run a 72v 15ah pack don’t you

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

@@kitler01 It really comes down to your frame and how you plan to ride. The BB is big and need a special drive train. So far you can not pedal with a BB unless you go for the extra stage gear box. It is close to a mc motor with all its glory and you can ride it full blast all day long. The Cyc is still a mtb motor and can fit a frame better if you are going real off road. It has superb Pas and can be ridden pretty hard on a 8x drivetrain. The BB pulls more wh if you ride it hard, but they are not that different. 30-45 wh a km depending on style throttle riding.

@kitler01

Ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth thank you for the info I think I’ll probably go with the cyc as I’d like to pedal sometimes. I had a 12kw stealth bomber previously and that thing was a nightmare when the battery died it was impossible to ride

You have yet to show us what this motor can do

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

I have no clue what you want to see dude. My setp is for exactly this purpose. Top speed is for somebody else. Sorry Get any other motor to replicate what I just did....... specially a HD that would be really nice since they are the shit......

How do you like the feel of the torque sensing?

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

I don't pedal at all on this bike, the gearing is way too low. But I have the Stealth and Photon motors too and the torque sensing is really good. Factory emtb feel.

@rirrid5662

5 күн бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Thanks. How do you find the weight distribution with your setup and what kind of range do you get depending on riding style?

@nielsbaardseth

5 күн бұрын

@@rirrid5662 It rides allmost as balanced as stock bike. But of course you feel the weight. Like a small mx. I get 35-40wh a km riding like an idiot......

@rirrid5662

5 күн бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Thanks again.That's still a decent range. Wondering if you could give your superficial opinion on the suitability of the Commencal FRS. It's at the top of my list for almost a carbon copy of your set up configuration. I can link the bike if you prefer not to google it.

@nielsbaardseth

5 күн бұрын

@@rirrid5662 Nice! Should work well. Good luck!

Messing up trails like every other e-biker. Great.

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

Why the hate man? Are you alone on your analog? In this country we embrace motors. This is ebike territory.

@OneCosmic749

Ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth High power ebikes instead of cars FTW :)

@ridingdirty2412

Ай бұрын

Thats how hikers talk to MTB. The hate cycle keeps rolling

@nielsbaardseth

Ай бұрын

@@ridingdirty2412 Here in Spain the mtb'ers are the kings. Walkers jump aside while saying sorry when they realize they are in a mtb trial. Not like Norway or other parts of the world.

@NATO-SOCOM

Ай бұрын

In what way shape or form did he “mess up the trail? He has every right to be on that trail, same as anybody else does on a regular mtn bike. He’s doing something he enjoys, same as someone on a regular bike, do you go back up the trail with a rake and a shovel every time you ride a trail or something? lol