Sweet Build and love the footage Shows it's Beastly capabilities 👍👏👏👏

Cool video and nice build

Most impressive, thanks for sharing!

That's looks like so much fun lol

Looks great fun, I'd like to make an ebike

Awesome, looks like you had nearly the same torque as the moto crosser but with maybe half the weight and only 1% of the noise

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It pulls pretty good even as single speed. Upgraded now. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oG111MWBk7meaZM.html

Wow Impressive...

Sweet

I'm installing one of these kits now on my MTB :)

@nielsbaardseth

10 ай бұрын

Enjoy!!

@NexGen-3D

10 ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Just hoping it doesnt twist my Specialized Enduro into a Pretzel :)

@NexGen-3D

10 ай бұрын

Went with CVT rear hub and a gates belt drive for it too

@nielsbaardseth

10 ай бұрын

@@NexGen-3D Cool, you post it in the cyc group?

@NexGen-3D

10 ай бұрын

Not yet, still doing the build, your video made me pull the trigger on the kit :)@@nielsbaardseth

Geil wie der das bike quält... 🙃

Please share video of bike. 👍

Where did you get the battery? Ive been looking for a 72v battery that has at least a 100a peak thats not like 60ah and $1500.

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I got it made in Norway. It peaks 120A. Ordinary 10A cells. 5s config. But yes, they cost like H..... The "pandemic" was not ebike friendly.

Is it a 72v bettery and 2000 controller? And is there any problem with the bike chain when going uphill?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

72v and 2000 has 2x the power and torque than a 72 855. I had both. Brutal torque with 2000, allmost no gear change. I have a custom drivetrain, no problem. But had no problems with 2000 either.

Where did you get the battery? If it's a custom build what BMS are you using?

@CHAD-pj8rx

Жыл бұрын

Same here, I want to know to.

On my first build. Using a 2013 Kona Operator and trying to put the motor in the frame triangle. Like you, I need to make custom mounting brackets. Great job on the bike!

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Motor inside is a great solution if possible.

How long does it last with just pedal assist ? I'm debating the CYC or Bafang for my transition patrol

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

I have never used the PAS on the X1 Pro, but I have a CYC Stealth on my Trek Slash. It is great as emtb. Very good pas system, not as Bafang with on/off. I get 30km of enduro riding with a 12ah 52v battery. Motor set to 750w and 25kph.

@BH4x0r

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth pas is pretty much the same with both systems, similar controllers with similar firmware and similar torque sensor except the Pro can have more torque

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@BH4x0r A 855 have litterally no torque compared to a Nuke 12f or Asi 2000, but will be ok for emtb pas riding. You get up to 4000w out of a HD, but it has no real torque with that controller. I have a Cyc Stealth on 52v with 855. Works very well as emtb, Im sure HD does too.

great video! I am also planning to make an e-bike. I have one question for you. Did you make a single speed sprocket yourself or do you have a product for sale? If it's a steel sprocket, you're probably using cromoly, right?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I got an adaptor made from one way to 104 chain ring. But I use a single speed hub. For normal hubs you can find them on ebay.

@user-bu5nd9ql5o

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth It really helped a lot. riding safely!

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-bu5nd9ql5o Good. And yes, steel narrow/wide. Front and rear. Lasts forever.

@frednurc4088

2 жыл бұрын

I'm running a BMX halflink chain on my 3.5kw x-1 pro

@popeye7833

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Could you show us this adaptor please

If you were to run this bike at about 28mph throttle only, how many miles would you get? I’m thinking about building a single/fixed gear dual suspension bike with a comfy seat for having a stealth amount of power that would help for commuting through any terrain. Thank you, amazing video!

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

Hi, and thanks. Single speed will be a balance between high and low speed. In the vid my max speed is 40mph, but cruise speed is only about 24mph due to rpm and motor temp. Unless you have plans to ride hard off road I would use a 6 speed cassette/chain to have some options. It will take a lot of abuse. I changed to Lightning Rods Big Block as the terrain where I live now is wide and fast. It can cruise 40mph and pulls insanely from 0. But not very stealthy.

@dexgray4581

Жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth thank you 🙏 I’m pretty set on single gear and don’t mind a loss of top speed or torque off the starting line. Mostly just enough to cruise upwards of 30mph for longer commutes with power reserved for any hills in my area. Not Planning to do all off road… probably 70% street 30% off road. And even then, nothing crazy, just trails/paths and some dirt. I’m not looking to go so heavy that I would need fox 40’s 😅 just a mountain bike with enough speed, range, kick, and comfort. The stealth part more so comes from it just being a mountain bike frame as opposed to a SurRon which flat out resembles a dirt bike. I know the bike will still be a bit loud :-) thank you!

@scooble

Ай бұрын

I'm also interested in what range is possible for off road riding with this setup

Where are you located? Looks like my area in Spain. 👍👍

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Spain. Torre del Mar. Usually riding in Calamoro and Malaga Montes.

Do you have chain problems like it snapping off and you having to buy new ones often ? Because my type of riding would look somewhat close to yours, with the exception that I will be trying to wheelie with throttle only (not for long periods of time of course, I'm well aware the motor will start overheating). I'm also planning on getting the CYC X1 Pro gen 3 motor

@nielsbaardseth

9 ай бұрын

The drivetrain can take everything. Up a rock garden or a stair at full power or landings with throttle on is the hardest. But no problem. Chain lasts about 500km. (Single speed chain) Sprokets are steel. Problem is that Sickbikes are out of business and the main component is a UHD one way on a single speed hub.

@Certyx

8 ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth ah, I'm using 11 spd casette and I will need the gears, so I'm a different case, I read somewhere that a nice rear derailluer and a chain tensioner would help the chain not to skip or brake

@nielsbaardseth

8 ай бұрын

@@Certyx The motor will not overheat unless you ride in too high gear or heat. I used a 11x setup with asi 2000 for a long time. It works fine. But when I got the Nucular 12f I broke hub, cassette and chain several times before I built the new drivetrain. You should anyway not use lower than 18t. A good clutch derailleur and b screw tension will usually solve the skipping. Good luck.

what phone mount is on the handelbars

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Garmin mount.

Does the battery under the downtube not hit the tires when bottoming out the fork?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Unforunately yes. Thought I would get away with 185mm travel, but no. Tried many volume spacers, 15% sag and high Comp, but did not work out with the trails we have here. Have a Fox 40 drop crown on the way to solve it fo real.

@sven_k

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Ah alright, sorry to hear. Would love an update video at some point. I think your build looks awesome and the video was really cool as well, very impressive!

@utubeape

Жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Is it possible to have a similar power battery but with the cells stacked in such a way that provides the right gap in the centre to reduce this problem? (Of course the wheel would have to be inline with the frame on a big drop)

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

@@utubeape Possible, yes. Point, no Drop crown solves it.

Cześć. Pięknie ten rower przyspiesza 👍👍 A jaka jest prędkość maksymalna tego roweru ?

@nielsbaardseth

Жыл бұрын

Yt have no translation. Pls help

@motoguru4016

11 ай бұрын

He said: this bike accelerates beautifully. What is its max speed.

@nielsbaardseth

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! 70kph in that configuration. Higest practical single gearing.

can i offer money for the bike?

how was it to set up the Nucular 12f controller to the cyc motor

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Very easy, took only minutes. Auto setup and power levels adjust. Torque mode only.

@happygiraffe9787

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth What kind of voltage output does the torque sensor give? Asking out of interest to compare Mxus 3K Turbo hub motor on paper vs. this Hub motor will have more power but also much more weight especially in the back.

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@happygiraffe9787 Hi, not sure about the pas, as I am not using it in this setup. Nuke has 5v and 12v outputs. All CYC data can be found here: www.cycmotor.com

@HEBEJEBE

2 ай бұрын

I just set up my gen 2 with a 24f and I'm having issues adjusting current and rpm settings. It's currently capped at 2500w output and about 1600rpm. Changing current limits has no effect and I literally can't change the kv limit (rpm?). Probably going to have to contact support on this..

What type of display do you have? It isn't the stock one for CYC X1 Pro i guess?

@nielsbaardseth

11 ай бұрын

Nucular 12f controller and display.

@motoguru4016

11 ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Do you know how /where to buy one? 🤔

@motoguru4016

11 ай бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth What do you think about the Nucular 24f controller?

@nielsbaardseth

11 ай бұрын

@@motoguru4016 It will work just as well, but is a bit bigger. Not more power as the X1 is allready maxed out.

@motoguru4016

10 ай бұрын

Can you unveil a bit of mistery about your battery in this setup? What BMS do you have in it, how many amps continuously can this pack produce?

Does the PAS work with that controller

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

It does, but I don't use it.

@jonmason1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Can you programme it to a 52 volt battery too. Is it a custom setup? Difficult to do?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonmason1975 The Nuke 12f is very simple to progam and can be used on 52v too. The auto setup takes 3 min. But very hard to get hold of these days.

@jonmason1975

2 жыл бұрын

I'm struggling with the BAC controllers

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonmason1975 We all do......🙃

How that thing isn't overheating at 7kw will stay forever a mystery to me. :D

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Must be the cool rider....😄

@BH4x0r

2 жыл бұрын

voltage and more importantly gears i suppose, higher rpm = better cooling and higher voltage = less amps for the same amt of power

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@BH4x0r Yes, the high rpm and gearing are a factor. Also that I am not running full blast for a long time. The high power is easy to play with. It is tuned close to the max, needs throttle management.

I know this question is not relevant to your set up. But im wondering if you had success running the cyc bac2000. im about to swap over from my bac855 to bac2000 but i hear the motor cut outs are even worse then bac855. running a 20s5p 72v 100amp bms 17ah. power cuts out under medium load up hills at 2000w and on every little bump.. (im thinking maybe standard thumb throttle is garbage?) Awesome video and bike! thanks, informative. i hope you upload again soon.

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have tested both 855 and 2000. I was using the 2000 for a long time. The power/torque on the 2000 is 2x the 855. It is a beast. But it cuts..... less than the 855 but feels harder as there is so much more power involved. Thumb throttle is not for off road use in my opinion. I run Domino, a great throttle.

@beaubarton2646

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Thanks for your sharing ur experience. i already have the 2000, just need to mount it. (custom bracket from high voltage im thinking) looks like i need a nuke control, as your ride is next level. cheers.

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@beaubarton2646 High Voltage has great knowledge and products.

@crashtestdummie67

2 жыл бұрын

So the nuke is much better than the bac2000? What domino throttle exactly?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@crashtestdummie67 The Nuke does not have motor cuts like the Asi. Also easiar to set up from scratch and much smaller than the 2000. Power is about the same. fasterbikes.eu/en/accessories/throttles/203/domino-premium-full-twist-grip-throttle

What battery do you use

@nielsbaardseth

2 ай бұрын

It was a 72v 15ah 120A peak pack. The X1 pulls 100A+.

How is it 7000watts motor? It says its 5000watts?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Peak power on my setup is 7000w.

@Amazon820

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth That's even faster or as to be faster than the Cyx progen 2 mid drive motor with 5000watts top speed 50-65 mph 80-100km/h So this is faster? If so what is the top speed? On a 72v battery I'm not a fan of second best.

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amazon820 It is a CYC X1 Pro Gen 2. Speed depends on gearing. Mine is 70kph, but I ride off road only. It has big tires, inserts and pulls HARD uphill.

@Amazon820

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth Neal thanks for your response I'm not sure which one to go for the Banfang Ultra Max or CYC X1 progen 2 but I'm looking for the best in terms of speed?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amazon820 When you talk about speed, what kind of bike will you use? What type of riding. A DH bike can easily take 100kph, but a normal mtb is shaky after 35kph. Top speed is usually not very interesting when it comes to practical use. Also no small mid motor will survive flat out for a longer period. Plan your use before the build. Good luck.

2:10 looks like someone threw a body off the bridge

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

Kind of a local tradition. 😂

How many miles can you get?

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

With that type of riding I get about 10-13 miles.

@JuulRoblox

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth any idea what's your continiuous battery A? In discribition you mentioned 120A peak. I wonder if i can use my 72v 20ah 60a continiuous battery for the asi bac 2000

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

@@JuulRoblox 60A cont is good. And if it can peak 100-110A you are golden. Usually a 60A can peak 120A.

@JuulRoblox

2 жыл бұрын

@@nielsbaardseth thnx Niels!

I would buy it for 6500

the video is artifacted out in your track, it makes the show hard to watch. in fact, i can see a boundary between artifacted and detail: track and scenery.

@nielsbaardseth

9 ай бұрын

Maybe cool down on the artifacted weed bro? 🤔

Too loud

@nielsbaardseth

2 жыл бұрын

It makes noice for sure, but all mid motors with this kind of power makes noice. And hub motors are not for mtb/mx riding.