Xue: I don't want to beat an old guy, who never sparred and never been hit. Tai Chi guys: Xue admitted defeat, he lost.

@ShinFahima

3 жыл бұрын

**a new challenger has arrived!!!**

@ejectedlol1070

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that is why Xiaodong has never set foot on our mountain where challengers are not required to follow any rules but nevertheless are often so injured they require assistance to leave.....and notice Jerry has no comment on this!!!??! m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5hmyZRqpJzTZ9o.html

@kentallard8852

3 жыл бұрын

Send in Gene LeBell

@michaeltrinh4394

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejectedlol1070 Your practical hands method may be more effective than what we've seen thus far, but it doesn't negate that Xu Xiaodong was treated in bad faith and slandered. It is very disrespectful to any person, regardless of style. I am Chinese, I love kung fu, and I have a special interest in neijia. I've welcomed all styles in my club, and there's no claim of superiority for any style- I'll use tai chi with mma fighters, and they are impressed by how effective it is for their own styles. I'd gladly spar with xu xiaodong, openly in a friendly match with no ego, just respect for someone who also loves martial arts.

@nonsononessunooko4066

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejectedlol1070 hahahahaahahah yeah sure man

Who else found it hillarious when the gum dropped out of his mouth, he tried to throw it back in and it bounced right out again?

@thecasuallongsword

4 жыл бұрын

He’s Alex Jones level pissed

@martialartslifelonglearner6461

4 жыл бұрын

10:31 That was hilarious

Xu is a typical Beijing kid. He's so real, talkative, full of sense of humor.

Tai Chi is an art of very subtle refinement where one could potentially get frighteningly good at the push hands game. Many of these masters, being able to completely dominate their students under such conditions would mistakenly feel that they would be similarly unstoppable in a fight. While I firmly believe that there are many transferrable skills and qualities from Tai Chi, the fact is that it is now almost irrevocably styled as an 'old person' art, with very few practitioners keen to bridge the gulf between push hands skills and fighting/sparring. This results in the lack of awareness of the reality of combat in general.

@dung6094

4 жыл бұрын

A young man started practicing Taichi. He got talent and trained very hard. One day when he mastered the art which is so strong but then suddeny he looked into the mirror. There stood an 70 years old man....

@Kitties_are_pretty

4 жыл бұрын

​@@BuJammy "Most styles turn into crappy kickboxing in a fight." Holy shit you're right about that. It's amazing how as soon as they're in a situation of live resistance, they forget their lifetime's worth of training under a fifth generation whoever master and they drop their stupid perching crane bullshit and just do some bad kickboxing.

@Zz7722zZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@BuJammy Precisely because there is a disconnect between how traditional arts are practised and how they are used. Secondly the public at large have no idea how TMA's actually look like when used in a fight (hint: it's not like in the movies).

@thecaptain29

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zz7722zZ we need an example, please.

@Zz7722zZ

4 жыл бұрын

The Captain In my opinion it is something like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4qW1syeZ5DOgc4.html His opponent/sparring partner is obviously less skilled but you get a sense of how a tai chi fighter would engage. This is Yang Style (Yang Shaohou variant) tai chi.

I love how passionate and expressive Xu is

Xu is the incarnation of the rage trying right the wrongs. No wonder he is getting in so much trouble. He is actually very inspiring. If only he could speak english he would have some international support.

Jerry is a lifesaver. He is the only guy whose KZread channel "Fight Commentary Breakdowns" keeps us updated about Xu Xiaodong. Love and Respect from India🇮🇳.

All the respect to Mr Xu Xiadong, He has the right to be angry, for all the bad publicity, the harrasment, and the bad treatment for the chinese goberment. I had learning Tai Chi for almost 15 years, and in all this time, never, never, I repeat, never I saw a Tai Chi sparring, or any of the másters speaking about fights or ultimate fighting skills, I had learn the good stuff for your health, and the great exercice that Tai Chi is, even I had learned a lot of Qigong, but, as I said before, never, never know about a guy using Tai Chi as a combat sport. I share the angry with Mr Xu, in this time in the Tai Chi comunity I knew many idiots that claims that they have powers, that they can speak with spirits, that they can even fly and all that nosenses, and, of course, the fucking Morons that claim they can beat up a bóxer, or a MMA fighter, or a Judoka with the supposed Tai Chi powers, and you know the out come from that bullshit. One chinese máster that I knew was asked about the combat of Tai Chi, and, wisely told us the fighting style from All Tai Chi stlyes are lost in this days, because, during the cultural revolution, thousands of máster were killed, a lot scape from China and went to América, south an the EEUU, but in that process, many culture and fighting style were lost forever. The Tai Chi we knew today is a watered vertion from that arts. Nonentheless, I defend Tai Chi as a health therapy, and a good exercise for all the ages, but this crap of mad people claming they can beat anyone with snail speed boxing movements must stop. And must stop all that black publicity to the really Tai Chi, come on, Is like yoga, or pilates, you can fight using pilates or stretching. But, until a one Tai Chi person, beats a MMA fighter in a públic fight, with Tai Chi skills, I Will belive in all that crap magic. Good videos, you're doing a great job to expose the bullshitdo in China, greatings from Colombia, south América. Thanks.

@markvolt2070

4 жыл бұрын

Very well written, respect!

Xu kinda reminds me of the badass in Train to Busan. The guy who whacks zombies with his bare hands. Aaaaand he's almost more famous than Bruce Lee now. Go Xu go♥️from 🇹🇭

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a good movie. Xu and that actor totally have the same vibe!

@heavymeddle28

4 жыл бұрын

@@RobWatt yea I just watched train to Busan again and right after, I watched this. It just hit me that they resemble each other 😊

@JohnSmith-hm6lv

4 жыл бұрын

The actor is Ma Dong-seok, he used to be the personal trainer for Kevin Randleman and Mark Coleman.

@dragontengu

4 жыл бұрын

Y'all watch "The Outlaws" on Amazon. One of his best movies!

@kentallard8852

3 жыл бұрын

he needs a movie, this is such a classic 1970s kung fu plot

Keep digging about Xu Xiaodong! Thanks for the great videos!

I felt this video was alot more enjoyable to watch than your other ones, You really expressed yourself well here, And showed your crush~ haha~ Keep up the good content, this was really enjoyable to watch ^ ^

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

Spread this video around. Jerry doesn't make more of these because they don't get as many views. Look at the views of this compared to other Jerry videos. Whenever a video doesn't get as many views, Jerry gets sad. I know because I'm his roommate.

Great work dude… u r better than any REPORTERS I had even known. U speaks out the truth and nothing but the truth by digging deep and working your ass off.. n I thank you for that 👍👍👍

Jerry are you gonna marry the girl at 16:37?

@martialartslifelonglearner6461

4 жыл бұрын

Let's find the girl and set them up on a date.

@peterwang5660

4 жыл бұрын

@@martialartslifelonglearner6461 She's singing a super romantic song too lmao

Xu xiao dong wouldbe perfect playing Zhang Fei from 3 kingdoms. On another note, i think that son of tai chi master is the real master. He beat down xu repution without even fighting him.

The more of Xu I see the more I like him.

Great video bro

I really respect Xu. Even though he can be a bit arrogant and uncourteous, man this guy went through some shit in his life. And I just love how you named him the MMA Panda. So catchy....and so true. I love that

i hope you keep translating these things!! we need to know the drama! LONG LIVE XU XIAODONG, DEFENDER OF TRUTH IN MARTIAL ARTS!!!

I like how lei lei is just listening to Xu intently and lividly when he was talking shit about tai chi

Not going to lie, I fell into those type of delusion and felt like there was a secret way to fighting. And joined tkd, my coach was straight up old school and my kicks were fast and quick and practiced a lot of form. But until I start going to the Muay Thai class. That’s when it changed everything. Leg kicks were heating my legs up and I didn’t know how to defend it and getting gassed from clinching, knee and livershot to the body in which opened my eyes to be rational. Getting the best of both worlds: quick and hard kicks.

@peterwang5660

4 жыл бұрын

There we go, that's what we all need, the "getting the best of both worlds".

@yengvue2735

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Wang definitely!! Lol

Jerry, may i suggest that you use a virtual background. Unless you tidy up your room 😉...

I cant wait for his Netflix Special. Who's gonna play Xu Xiaodong?

@FightCommentary

3 жыл бұрын

Tony Ferguson

Dude, I'm 54 and I don't want anyone, especially people in the martial arts, treating me like a child.

@BisyrunKhairi

4 жыл бұрын

I still consider ur age as someone mature sir. Only some of those who are at the age of 70 and above will be treated like a child.

Salute to you in xu From America

I am glad that this is happening to martial arts. I want to see the humble strength of character return to tai chi. I am sad every time a Tai Chi person even agrees to a fight. If the internal arts cannot represent life outside of the fight, good character, strength of health, than what is it for?

What is hilarious to me is Xu is most like the really famous Yang taiji boxers of the 19th century. Yang Ban Hao was an angry vicious fighter and so was his nephew Yang Shao Hao, it all turned to shit in the 20th century until we have the soft esoteric bullshit people call "tai chi" today.

@ejectedlol1070

3 жыл бұрын

Except at our mountain where Xiaodong dares not set his foot even though we do not require challengers to follow any rules although it is not uncommon challengers are too injured to leave without help! m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5hmyZRqpJzTZ9o.html

@michaelquebec6653

3 жыл бұрын

He also reminds me of Tang Hao, the early 20th Century lawyer and martial artist who called for more scientific methods of training with resistant opponents, as well as dismissing the myths of the origins of Chinese martial arts. Like Xu, he also got a lot of hate, but he kept it real.

Please keep us up to date on Xu Xiaodong

This is really interesting and you see it in the US too. Archie Bunker is kind of the archetype of the old guy with crazy obnoxious opinions that no one can change and everyone in the family tolerates (up to a point). The older generation also historically holds on to a lot of political power across many cultures. Challenging older people is fraught with moral dilemmas because (like children) we are obligated to protect them and to try and keep them from hurting themselves which can be a full time job. Having said that, Xu Xiaodong could use a PR man - I don't think he's helping himself by getting caught up in drama and raging out about this and I say that even though I completely agree with his position.

10:31 Xu Xiaodong's gum drops and he tries to put it back in and it drops again.

@Kitties_are_pretty

4 жыл бұрын

Xu Xiaodong won't be defeated by chi but he can apparently be defeated by gravity. The Iron Palm people should find a way of harnessing the power of gravity.

Xu reminds me alot of my own martial arts trainer. Xu should forget these clowns however, they aren't real martial artist's. Unlike Xu though my trainer said there is no point in going around smacking people coz what happens if you kills someone? It should be enough that you train well for yourself and become confident in your skills. Trying to prove to every clown that you are good isn't the point of martial arts, it's for you to feel good not for others to see you are good....what's the point of they know you are good and then die, or get horribly injured? Unlike here on KZread with keyboard warriors hurting someone real bad doesn't feel good at all especially if they can't get up and need to go to the hospital....it's a terrible feeling.

@lastword8783

4 жыл бұрын

skeecats xu isnt doing it to prove that he is good. He is doing it to prove to people that these guys are frauds. These frauds trick impressionable people that their BS works for self defence. He is doing a good service for people.

@kingschultz8299

4 жыл бұрын

"Trying to prove to every clown that you are good isn't the point of martial arts" If that's what you took from Xu's fights, you didn't learn anything at all. This isn't about Xu feeding his ego. If he wanted to do that, he could just teach traditional Chinese martial arts and build his own cult of doltish followers, like many taiji instructors do. This is about outing frauds who are selling a fake product to gullible people who don't know any better. It's about fighting the neutering of Chinese unarmed fighting ability.

@kingschultz8299

4 жыл бұрын

Also, stop pretending that you're a good and moral person that cares about other's safety. All you want to do is protect your own skin and avoid trouble. You don't actually care about other people, otherwise, you'd also be opposed to these fraudulent "masters" fleecing people and giving them a set of useless skills that don't improve their fighting ability.

@skeecats

4 жыл бұрын

​@@kingschultz8299 Mind you I was just sharing what I had learnt from my own personal experiences if you dont agree just say so no need to be judgemental and negative. Saying I am "pretending" is not your place because you dont know who I am and I cant pretend to know who you are either. Also I have been in the righ i know how it is knocked out and to hurt someone badly. And not sure where you get the idea that I am against exposing frauds. Thats totally cool with me, but to the point where this poor man is being persecuted for it, whats the point if getting rid of dishonesty and fraudulency is a war one man cant win?

@skeecats

4 жыл бұрын

@@lastword8783 Thanks I am not disagreeing with what he is doing at all, I feel for him because he is being persecuted for it. What will reall change things is if Martial arts Schools / Trainers are tested before they are allowed to teach others. The poor guy will give himself a heart attack with all these fools... dont you agree?

I love the song

Hey Jerry where did you get that video of that girl singing ?

I love to see them talking

Looks like xue upped a weigh class hahaha he's still a good guy. People just tryna defame him.

很棒

Make ur Bed bro😄 good video as usual

Hey where is the throat singing? Khoomei, am i wrong?

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

Wruuuuuuuuu

I wanna see more maddog justice for him in 🇨🇳

Lei Lei's got 'self-soothing' body language written all over him hahaha

@hankwatt

4 жыл бұрын

Self-soothing, eh?

Regarding what you said at 12:00 i think there are people who are bad, look for a way out but that only hides how bad they are inside. Same thing with the church and all the perverts they are. Church doesn't make them perverted just hides their true nature. I respect the efforts of xu xiaodong trying to clean up fake martial arts however i recall an interview that kwoncicker and mike from hard2hurt had. Mike started up wanting to do something similar to xu xiaodong. However he quickly realized the people who actually took the fights were not the ones he was looking for. People put fake stuff out there don't take fights. People who get deluded by that people do. So Xu could fight 10-100 of those posers and it wouldn't matter. Because the guys he wants to beat up ain't the ones that are pulling the strings. They are the puppets. Well that's all in the past with the new legislation though so it's fine... hopefully.

@peterwang5660

4 жыл бұрын

Normally I would think Xu is too brash, but in the context of what he's trying to do for the public, I think it's the perfect approach. He's all about putting trash where it belongs, it doesn't matter if they're claims from some random delusional amateur, he needs to have a perfect record.

The fight in Brazil is still on? When will it be?

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

Jerry tells me it's not on anymore because Lei Lei backtracked on the agreement.

@DRAGONBLOODX

4 жыл бұрын

@@RobWatt Shame

Who guitarist is? I want to follow. :D

@hankwatt

4 жыл бұрын

Isabelle Huang. Jerry listens to her all the time.

is that a puzzle on the coffe table :D :D :D ?

Lol i thought that dude next to him looked like Lei Lei. Never thought they would be hanging out lmao

Has there ever been a time, in the history of the human race, where ANYONE has won a fight using Tai Chi? Because I'm pretty convinced it's never happened.

Yeah I agree, most of the hate for Xu Xiaodong does seem to come from the Tai Chi camp. There was that one Iron Fist guy that made the drunk video, but then later apologized for it, so that was probably good for all involved, but yeah, mostly from Tai Chi practitioners.

16:44 what is the name of the song..?

I originally was watching this for the martial arts content, but once the subject of accepting certain individual's bad behavior, simply because they happen to be older was brought up, I HAD to comment! ;-) One of my jobs is teaching fitness to senior citizens. Most of them, the majority, are nice people. But...there's always one in the group who's a selfish piece of work (as in any group.) Well, when I first started teaching more than ten years ago, I would tolerate it, because I was raised to automatically "respect" elders....without exception....no matter what....just because of their age. (It's not just a Chinese thing. We have it in Filipino culture, too. It might be an Asian thing, though my supervisor at the time, who also held that mindset, until a senior screwed her over with money, wasn't Asian, but she was highly religious, so that could also be a factor.) The problem was, that mindset made it impossible to teach class, because the one or two bad ones would be disruptive in class, and even would bully(!) the other classmates. That's right, don't think that just because these are adults that bad behavior goes away. Human beings, of any age, could be both wonderful...or horrible. It's only when I started approaching seniors with the same mindset that I would anyone else, respecting them if they're thoughtful and considerate, and telling them, "There's the door, you can leave!" when the (few) are being selfish, noisy, bossy, rude, or just plain bad, that my classes were run efficiently. Ironically, that's when my fitness classes started to grow (because who wants to be a part of a class where you can't actually participate without distractions?) Yeah, age should not be a factor in accepting, or checking, bad behavior. That mindset does no one any good.

Respect for not wanting to beat up an old man.

You should check out applied wing chun

chengdu is amazing. love the mala stuff!

Crazy como-se llama drama. Xu did what he needed to do. I'm glad he did.

Xu I'm a big fan first let me say I'm 44 and I completely understand xu, I am completely on his side he is a fighter by profession so if he challenges or gets challenged he is going to accept the fight, we should be thanking him for exposing them many people walk in those dojo's believing these skills can save their lives many victims look for self-defense class and if they learn from these fake masters they can get killed by all rights xu should be granted his own dojo so we can learn from a real fighter (Master) xiaodong ,what better way to show the 🌎 than by experience

This is so sad , I will support you, Xu Xiaodong.

Peace in love

Danggit I knew it was Jerry Liu!!!

Hi

Mustache like boss, these comments are very important, to have an idea about the fight, it is to be expected that after such a tai chi master loses, and it is expected that LeiLei can now fight seriously.

HOMIE GOT AN INTRO

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

He's had it for a while. Just never uses it.

As much as I don't like the idea of beating up an old person, Xu has a point, if you are going to be in the ring and compete, you need to accept the result if you lose.

You're from Chengdu? How's your dialect ability?

@FightCommentary

4 жыл бұрын

It’s decent

Correct me if I'm wrong but is that a cross at the top right? Surprised to see it if that's what it is, I thought religion wasn't accepted in china.

Hey Man did u Saw about the Brazilian MMA organization that i sent to u Bro? If Xu want to fight in Brazil give us a call

@FightCommentary

4 жыл бұрын

Xu says LeiLei is not honoring the agreement, so the match is on pause. I’ll keep you posted.

@arielmendes1654

4 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary thanks a lot Bro u rock, btw i am a bjj white belt and im about to get a gofundme for going to uk and fight a aikido Guy who Said bjj sucks, i'll send u the whole story on Ur IG about this

@FightCommentary

4 жыл бұрын

@@arielmendes1654 Please do!!

@arielmendes1654

4 жыл бұрын

@@FightCommentary i will

@aluisiofsjr

4 жыл бұрын

ariel mendes , where I see what Brazillian MMA organization said about this?

Put this bruiser in the ring with a top level MMA fighter and I wonder how long he would last?

Such passion in Xu Xiao Dong. But I get it. He has a "target" on his back and everyone is gunning for him. And they will try to take any shot they can get. Even if it's a cowardly shot. They know Xu Xiao Dong is easy to piss off. All they have to do is lie, and he is compromised. An age old tactic. Piss off the enemy and let him make a mistake. Same here. But a pissed off Xu Xiao Dong is a force to be reckoned with in a fight no doubt. But if he can be antagonized to make a mistake and possibly get put in jail or something of that nature, then they win. Xu Xiao Dong needs to be smarter than them and remain calm.he's already proven their bullshido, and that infuriates them. So they are going to change the rules. Make him fight their fight. Don't take the bait. Fight them on your terms. They will come. Good luck Xu Xiao Dong, the world is watching. Good vid. Thank u

Jerry your mustache awesome

tai chi ppl in the west who are "panda sized" like xu are only so in the stomach area...like xxl panda belly roundness..thats what you find on a regular basis. and i agree.. i hate the way people over there "argue" and try to make a point that is essentially useless wether its right or wrong in other words make up reasons/excueses and trying to justify the unjustifiable. no matter whats going on they just twist it until it fits their taste.

This is like a backstory of an evil villian but the thing is that the villian is at the right

Any videos of this dude fighting a yogi?

I need subtitle for that girl singing

@FightCommentary

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll translate that song in the future on the channel Jerry Teaches Chinese.

After a year I came back here just to say LEILEI YOU STILL GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO LIVE PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU QUIT TAICHI NOW 😹😹

Again, If Xu Xiaodong will be allowed to travel to US I really want him to join UFC or any kind of MMA organization there cause this guy reminds me of Abott Tank 😁 I mean if he can rebuilt his figure then Im sure can compete there though not sure if theres age restriction there. 🙂

@SwaAusch

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe in his 20s-early 30s. He's in his 40s now, no way he'll get signed

@yabbamita

4 жыл бұрын

He's not even close to UFC or Bellator level tho

@oliveoil2632

4 жыл бұрын

Haha Abott Tank, after his fought with Vitor Belfort, I became a big fan of Vitor.

Wait is Lei Lei and Xu buddys now

Yang Tai Chi? Is he a descendant of Yang Guo?

The first who should be aware tai chi isn't for fighting are those so-called masters.

Jerry, f all these martial arts stuff.. I want to more of the woman and her beautiful voice :D

@FightCommentary

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe we'll feature her more on Jerry Sings or Jerry Teaches Chinese. Follow those two channels and we'll explore more of her songs.

they all funny

Guess where I just came from. A young kung fu guy was beating up a jiu jitsu guy and kept getting stopped by the ref, and everybody was going, "these barbaric chinese guys just can't follow the rules". The disconnect here is there is no meeting of minds. They're talking past each other. The tai chi guy is thinking "spar by tai chi rules". Xu here just want to do his own thing. Cause tai chi rules are stupid and unrealistic. Yeah he's right. I don't know what Xu is trying to do. Most people outside China knows tai chi is exercise for old people. Not a real thing for fighting.

I think Xu Xiaodong needs more Tai Chi in his life. To find balance. I understand some points but.. As martial artist he need to learn anger management.

@FightCommentary

3 жыл бұрын

Ha 😜

Psychology was my career for 4.5 years

This is pretty simple to conceive: -Westerners won't believe the Tai Chi guys or any of the traditional martial artists because we understand the concept of MMA -Chinese natives won't believe Xu because they are blinded by tradition and culture And a lot of people say "Xu should move to NA or someone else". Well, he would just get slandered non-stop by the people that are against him, most likely claiming that he was ran away from all their challenges. All in all, in the future I hope someone makes a movie out of him. Like Ip man style where he challenges all these Dojo's. It would be a great martial arts film without a doubt and can spread awareness to stop being scammed by these traditional martial artists who only know touchbutt yoga.

tai chi guys resort to lies now?

If these old guys want to spar with someone, they should speak to Judo Gene LeBell.

Why is Lei Lei here? Am I missing something?

@RobWatt

4 жыл бұрын

This was from the same day that Lei Lei and Xu tried to arrange a rematch. You can see the video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqKZxpOknNaWiJc.html

He should be in the states. Bring him over bro

@jamescaan870

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry but he'd be a nobody in the states. He has an audience now cuz he's doing a psa for the Chinese. But here he'd be just another mediocre washed-up fighter. And since he can't speak English well , can't go into commentary either

Make a movie o serie abaut xu if you have a camera.

I don't 100% agree with everything Xu says and does with regards to the TMA debate. But I do respect what he is doing and to a large extent I do agree with him. TMA does work for the guys who know how to fight and I'm sure there are TMA fighters who can take em like Yair Rodriguez or Ignacio Callponoch. Not to mention Yi Long. It just bothers me that he tries to convince people TMA sucks by fighting old frail non fighters who aren't trained for combat. I would love to see Xu beat up Steven Seagull.

@regulardude2981

4 жыл бұрын

Seagull to beat up Xu? You Gotta be dreaming, he’s too fat to even throw a high kick, like he reckons he taught Anderson Silva the knockout high kick.

@regulardude2981

4 жыл бұрын

americanwillow I bet Jean Claude Van Dam, Michael Jai White, Joe Rogan would kick Seagull’s ass and Xu would knock he’s fat ass to kingdoms come. Aikido is just not effective as other martial arts, kungfu included.

@christopherallan4298

4 жыл бұрын

"TMA does work for the guys who know how to fight and I'm sure there are TMA fighters who can take em like Yair Rodriguez or Ignacio Callponoch. Not to mention Yi Long." The problem I have with this argument is that I think you're mis-attributing these people's fighting abilities to "traditional martial arts", when in fact the reason they can fight is mainly due to the fact that they all train with modern sportfighting methodologies, and the way they design their training is guided by modern sport science, not tradition. I couldn't find anything about Ignacio Callponoch, but Yair Rodriguez and Yi Long are both trained in modern sportfighting disciplines. Yi Long isn't a Shaolin monk and wasn't Shaolin trained; he cut his teeth at a modern Sanda program at a sports university: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2eft9ahnNq7YqQ.html. And I very seriously doubt that Yair Rodriguez, being a professional fighter, devotes any amount of time to hitting makiwara boards, doing qigong exercises, practicing katas, drilling techniques endlessly on compliant ukes, or any of the other things that we commonly think of as "traditional martial arts" training methodologies. He trains with modern sportfighting camps run by modern sportfighting coaches who use modern sportfighting methodologies. "It just bothers me that he tries to convince people TMA sucks by fighting old frail non fighters who aren't trained for combat." That's not what he's doing at all, and I think it's disingenuous to frame it that way. Nobody held a gun to any of these so-called "masters'" heads and forced them to fight Xu. They instigated the challenges, they agreed to the terms of the fights, they willingly stepped into the ring/onto the mat, and they got beaten up by a younger and more athletic man because they vastly overestimated their unarmed combat ability. If you watch the video, Xu even says that he did everything he could to avoid fighting one of the "masters" in question in this video. Aside from that, it really isn't unreasonable for Xu (or anyone else) to take these masters up on their challenges. These aren't just random old guys off the street: they apparently have enough clout with their government and name recognition with the general public to reach a not-insignificant portion of the Chinese people, and they're using their notoriety to make the false claim that training the martial arts that they practice in the way that they practice them will give a person the ability to fend off someone significantly larger and more athletic than him or her in a physical confrontation. There's no reason why this claim should be respected and treated as true without evidence, and it's in no way "disrespectful" for anyone to demand evidence of these claims in the form of a physical contest with agreed-upon conditions. If you are angry about what happened to these guys, don't blame Xu: blame the masters' hubris and lack of anything resembling a level of skill or athleticism that would justify that hubris.

@jasonmartell7112

4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherallan4298 I don't think we really disagree here. I know those guys can fight for the reasons you mentioned and not because of their TMA training. But their TMA still helps them a lot and makes them more fun to watch which is a huge benefit itself. These guys are fighting for entertainment purposes and others train as a hobby for fun. It's rarely for actual self defense and more for enjoyment. TMA is cool as shit even though it's way less effective. But the fighters who actually know how to fight but are also capable of using TMA in a fight are what make MMA worthwhile for a lot of people. These idiots getting their asses whipped by Xu are just that. I wasn't intending to defend them. And I think some of them get paid so it's a win win for them. I don't blame nor hate on Xu. I respect his not wanting to fight a 70 year old and it was bogus for them to mischaracterize it as Xu losing. The Chinese government was wrong as hell for everything they did to him. I respect what Xu is doing and bringing to the table. I just don't want people to think TMA can't work in a fight and I don't want it to go extinct. I want it to live on and improve without losing it's flashy excitement.

Non-sparring COMBAT is self deception period! YOU LOSE...

He made the mistake to lose his temper. This gave his enemies the opportunities they were waiting for. Also making claims about "all tai chi practitioners" isn't helpful. As much as I understand his anger, eventually it's the actual reason for the drama. Imagine he just said "whatever" and walked away...

So... XU and lei2 friends now???

@FightCommentaryGrappling

3 жыл бұрын

They had a truce during this video, but it was broken when Lei lied again after this video was filmed.

nice bed haha

The only reason why Xu Xiaodong is being villainized is because China is so insular that they try to perpetuate that the old ways are better than what the rest of the world has to offer. It's such a paradox that they have caught up and (some may say) overtaken much of the world in manufacturing and technology but are still so close minded. Not the fault of the people I'm sure. Just strict controls and lots of propaganda by the state government. I hope Xu Xiaodong knows and finds vindication in knowing that the rest of the martial arts world outside of China sees him as an MMA innovator.

People are watching too much movie and think that taichi is for fights.

The legit masters who knew how to use Tai Chi Chuan for combat are like the original OUR GANG/LITTLE RASCALS cast members - they’re all dead.

He has to set it right, face is everything in China. Come on you should know that.

leilei you still got plenty of time to live QUIT TAICHI NOW

except for shaolin monks every other kung fu practitoner in china dosen't spar . shaolin monks spar on a daily basis.

i dunno how he was at the time, maybe he wasn't that angry, but these days of course he should be angry, these people, and the chinese authorities basically tried to destroy this man's life, and for what? sparring against delusionnal people who think they can poke you to death or redirect your energy? come on.. in a self defense situation? maybe, in a combat situation against someone real real combat training? HELL NO.

Xu look like he put on a few pounds?

Respect your elders, but do not taunt the child