Jerry, here are time codes: 0:00 Shaolin vs TKD; 3:03 Kungfu vs Capoeira; 7:09 Drunken Kungfu

That drunken kickboxer's sudden rib kick was pretty awesome. The other guy never knew what hit him.

Drunken boxer already knows his stuff and has a strong foundation in technique and experience, the drunken boxing is just added flare which is why he succeeds while other kung fu fighters fail because its not enough to simply know the moves, to many are told a set of moves should work in theory without actually having them tested and troubleshot. Its like taking a world class boxer and them passing down their moves to someone else whom had never fought expecting similar results and same class of fighter. Its up to the fighters own skills and experience to make a style work and not the reverse.

@starwise2005

4 жыл бұрын

You're exactly right, what is taught now is some what water down, because the great masters of Wing Chun aren't around anymore to teach the real way of the style, that's why today Wing Chun practitioners don't have the ability to perform as well as of those long before them...🤔😎

@jashardwallington

4 жыл бұрын

Extactly but many martial artist dont get it

@Team_Killer_NZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@starwise2005 it never worked, maybe against somebody that was doing the same shit but no. Never did.

@Aroncare

4 жыл бұрын

Maaan that druken kick was some solid shit...

@InfiniteBeingX

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

That side kick stole his soul for a minute there.

@varanid9

6 жыл бұрын

It would definitely have stolen mine.

@grayalun

5 жыл бұрын

Sidekick is so underrated if done well it really is nasty.

@InfiniteBeingX

4 жыл бұрын

lol stole his soul, sick stuff man

The legendary drunken zone!!! He was so into it. I never see anyone kick like that from the ground. Just when you thought the guy fall down about to lose, he make a devastating kick.

The 1st match seemed like a friendly sparring exhibition. The other 2 were legit fights. That drunken guy was impressive. He seemed like a goofball then unleashed that kick to the ribs like a pro. Loved it.

The Capoeira guy had the clear advantage of not being limited to the traditional style. Maybe even fought some Vale Tudo matches.

@sarahlee3056

4 жыл бұрын

Alioth Ancalagon , he is an mma fighter

@AliothAncalagon

4 жыл бұрын

@Nicholas Green There is no evidence to suggest any of this. You are just explaining a fantasy you want to be true, because it gives you a warm gut feeling about a traditional style you hold dear. But its a fantasy. The only "traditional martial art" that has relevant evidence behind it to support the notion that it played any role in any real war ever is greek wrestling. Let that sink in.

4:57 when your character wins

The Drunken "dazed" guy was the most ingesting.

@varanid9

6 жыл бұрын

Nah, he meant "ingesting", as in, he drank a lot, LOL

@AlexanderMaungVO

6 жыл бұрын

Technically thats imbibing, but yeah lol I'm surprised the drunken guy did so well because relative to other drunken I've seen his structure is closer to performance drunken wushu more than combative. I guess to understand, look up Neil Ripski.

@Bardickan

6 жыл бұрын

I mean, this guy is actually closer to "classic" drunken, which is essentially just taking a normal fighting style and adding that drunken aspect to it once you've got the fundamentals down and strong. Hence why drunken was normally found within other martial arts, like CLF. Ripski's drunken was actually similar originally from what I know (being a part of the Ma family style), but he developed it into a more complete stand-alone style.

@Bardickan

6 жыл бұрын

He only did that when the round had stopped. If you look closely, he actually was using that as an excuse to take a breather lol.

@juanantoniofallas9934

6 жыл бұрын

Bardickan These are added to several styles of Kung fu as well

The capoeira guy is called lelo.. he had an undefeated record in mma.. I know him in person.. he's been doing capoeira since he was 4..

@DJEmirMixtapes

4 жыл бұрын

He looked pretty good there and still had a ton left in him to perform his ending moves after the bout as well

@elcypher6102

4 жыл бұрын

Ive seen some of his vids hes got good hands to. But those spinning kicks are insane.

@jasonbayani2139

4 жыл бұрын

@@f.b.ilolicondivision2425 basic ginga.. and stand up techniques such as quixada and their punches.. it takes time to learn the Angola moves and ground games even the hand stands and flips..

@jasonbayani2139

4 жыл бұрын

Lelo's first mma fight was that video u will find here in youtube called the 20 sec capoeira knock out..

@jasonbayani2139

4 жыл бұрын

@@f.b.ilolicondivision2425 when I was learning capoeira my instruto had a 7 yr old son who was training with us.. while we were doing the more advance move sets he was there stuck doing ginga, basic esquirda and basic standing kicks.. he wasn't learning any of the ground or low moves yet..

😂😂😂 Jerry, that drunken dude was awesome! And your friend that comments along with you on your most recent fight commentaries, man, he's a excellent addition, good job!

@danpt2000

6 жыл бұрын

I was really surprised by that kick, and then the handless stand up he did. The drunken guy actually looked kind of out of shape, but his kick, damn!!!

@playapapapa23

5 жыл бұрын

DonnieDarko1 I concur, I love this channel!

Wow that last fight was really fun to watch. Great find!

the capoeirista is an MMA fighter who has a few greatest capoeira KOs in MMA. You see him in Ton of KZread MMA compilations.

@varanid9

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting to know. Yeah, it was obvious he did more than just one martial art.

@chengda85

6 жыл бұрын

hes only good because he knows BJJ, most of his Capoeira kicks didnt even connect

@fgsf9

6 жыл бұрын

the.raven dont be a hater the kicks clearly set up the situation for him to be on the floor n using his ground skills n honestly ....clearly ur ignorant of his style ..lol his style isnt just kicks it excells at that but it also has grabs headbutts locks n a bit of ground work so ....what are u talking about ?? Study up before you critic

@Mr.Smiley_J

5 жыл бұрын

Capoeirista. Ah, so that's what you call a capoeira fighter. Thank you for that.

@lucianoxx9210

5 жыл бұрын

Smiley J Yes, I'm brazilian and the final "ista" in brazilian Portuguese is similar to the English "ist". For exemplo, in English the word special = specialist and in Portuguese, the same word is written especial = especialista. Then, in English, capoeira fighter would be capoeirist.

Thank you all so much for watching our critiques! To see more cases of Chinese martial arts tested, please go here: kzread.info/head/PLtdbPxlsaM_mtbEfPdb6j2EUDpi4_bS_6 Looking forward to your comments! As an update, the Tai Chi master who Xu Xiaodong beat initially to set off this whole debate is now sparring and training some kickboxing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hHmYr6mDmNzMp5s.html

Capoeira is very much like drunken Kung fu. It’s based upon the same principle, to appear vulnerable and surprise with unorthodox attacks

Drunken Boxing was fascinating to watch.....and surprisingly effective.

Capoiera vs "other guy" duel was strange. The Brazilian dude was like 3 weight classes heavier then the Asian dude.

Been a while since I've seen the drunken Kung Fu, every time this video comes up I fall in love with it all over again. To this day I think that it's the best real video of drunken Kung Fu that I have seen. The guy stays in "character" throughout the entire match and after the fact. It's so entertaining to watch. I wish it was seen more.

Loved the drunken boxer who stayed in character so you didn't know if he was dazed or drunk.It worked for him.Murderous side kicks. Lol:-P

People who train hard in their styles and are prepared to test themselves can be effective. The rest are not. Which also applies to people who train MMA. If they don't train hard or test themselves they won't beat skilled practitioners of other styles. So less ridicule of Kung Fu please.

@Aramsa-Khan

5 жыл бұрын

Very true. Practice make perfect and continuous sparring improve the fighting technique to real use

@wesley93256

5 жыл бұрын

The only way to be good at fighting is to practice 100% resistance every day

@wesley93256

5 жыл бұрын

Striking that is impossible but submission wrestling that is do able

@jashardwallington

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Say it louder for the all the idiots

@itsonlyrocknroll12

4 жыл бұрын

DrPittenstein so true

The world of Chinese martial arts is vast so is very difficult to extract what works and what doesn't, some master don't even spar they do it for the money and fame, but there is some practical Chinese martial like Sanda (Chinese Kickboxing and yes Kickboxing is a term to describe punching and kicking, created for the military) and Shuai Jiao (Chinese-Mongolian Wrestling).

@elchippe

6 жыл бұрын

lilith shopping, i never say is a traditional martial, i say is a Chinese martial art developed taking techniques the works from traditional martial arts and rejecting what doesn't work.

@lilithshopping7904

6 жыл бұрын

+RagingUtai This is a clip of a deadly fight between pre-communist(well, they grew up and practice their shit before 1949 and fought in UK occupied Hong kong) Kung Fu masters, which happened to be renowned representatives of Taichi bushito and Crane bushito respectively of their time. Enjoy. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g66HwZetmtnRmZc.html

@lilithshopping7904

6 жыл бұрын

BJJ maybe considered as a Brazilian martial art developedby taking Japanese JJ technique (mainly) and brazilian modification. As to Sanda, you may called it a very new Chinese martial art developed by taking techniques of western Boxing, kickboxing of various sources and a little bit throw of Chinese wrestling.

@oncesavedalwayssaved240

6 жыл бұрын

elchippe I've trained Goju Ryu Karate and we learnt chain punching which is from Wing Chin

@KylesoulDT

6 жыл бұрын

lilith shopping Sanda is not a style. In all martial arts, traditionnal forms are useful only to help you to perfect your movement and your body. I practiced Muay Thai, my favorite style and after I started Wushu Sanda. In Wushu (real name of Kung Fu), you have 2 parts : taolus (traditionnal forms) and Sanshou/Sanda (fighting application) like in Karate : Katas (traditionnal forms) and Kumite (fighting application). Like all martial arts, Wushu evolved. Muay Thai in the traditionnal way would be smashed in the 21st century. Tai Chi is good, but not in striking and in his traditionnal way. In Sanda we learn Tai Chi to be more effective with our projection techniques, for relaxation and body recovery (really important because a Sanda combat is really stressful and exhausting). Kung Fu in chinese means "hard work", Wushu means "martial art".

While I always thought that capoeira by itself is a joke... That guy in green mixing it in with jiu-jitsu and Judo... Damn

@Dragonwing16

6 жыл бұрын

Joshua Sharrock yeah really goes to show that every style really does have at least a few useful things

@DrinkUpJohny

6 жыл бұрын

why would it be a joke?Because a rhythmless neanderthal like yourself couldn't ever understand it ?

@joshuasharrock466

6 жыл бұрын

hero102912 rhythmless neanderthal? No I just have an understanding that the world doesn't revolve around PlayStations Tekken. Excluding movies, there is a wide variety of KZread videos backing my claim

@blackpowderkun

6 жыл бұрын

Joshua Sharrock if look at history capoeira used to be a complete deadly system that police and criminals used to the point that maestroes stop teaching and was illegalized by the gov. only surviving as a dance like form taught these days, and even if you don't use capoeira techniques with a body that it's trainning provide you might as well use fistercufts.

@joshuasharrock466

6 жыл бұрын

Blackpowderkun I hear you and I've heard these stories. Growing up I thought capoeira was the shit. There's not one MMA fighter though that uses it. And just like Wing Chun, the mythology of it is so built up that no one tested it... In my opinion.

Damn. That capoeira guy was AWSOME. I WANT MORE OF THAT

It looked to me like the drunken fighter hit his opponent with a couple of liver shots, not just the ribs. IMO the liver hurts even more.

What yall said at the end is a very good point about if kung fu was used in realistic sparring it will be very useful. only thing is most traditional martial arts dont realistically spar. You can always have great form and techique but without proper experience all that technique would be useless

The capoeiristas name is Marcus Aurelio. Very good capoeirista, decent MMA fighter but a very wild fighter that kind of bites him in the ass.

Great find in the clips. But more so, respect to acknowledging the skill that is shown.

9:43 this guy is a living Dark Souls red phantom

Thanks for the upload mate 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Love the videos! I always get kind of frustrated with the this works or that works discussion....it goes back to the 70s when I started martial arts, with Judo can beat karate, or boxing beats judo. It’s not the art, it’s the person, their attributes, and how they practice. Let’s take basket ball for example. If I practice dribbling and free throws and lay ups for a year or so and never practice against another person, or play in a game, and then I jump in my first game. When I lose and can’t make a free throw under pressure, everyone says my basket ball doesn’t work. Same thing here. Train realistically, against opponents who resist, spar, and etc...and the person skilled makes it work regardless of the system or style.

@dawoodwilliams3652

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly but many people are just plain out stupid.

@firebellyK

4 жыл бұрын

Dawood Williams yes, I think the stupidity or maybe ignorance is a better word, comes into play when people who have no idea what a real violent encounter is like, blindly practice unpractical techniques with the belief that they can easily defend themselves and they are a so called master. The guy who stabs you in an alley or breaks a beer bottle over your head in a bar doesn’t care about your trophies and belts. It’s also like the trend over the last few years of the 10 year old black belts. Sorry, it all gives true martial skill a bad name. Didn’t mean to rant.

Yall really spent 3 minutes breaking down a fake fight (first fight)?

I wanna see two 'drunken style' guys fight!

This is real life Tekken

Apart from Emanuel Augustus, it's very rare to find videos of how effective Drunken style can be in actual combat. Nice

good job dude, you got me subd

@FightCommentary

6 жыл бұрын

Yay!!

"Skull twice as thick." Daftest thing I've ever heard.

@peterwang5660

4 жыл бұрын

I mean he explained how it's supposed to work.

The problem with "Does Kung Fu work in a ring fight?" is really hard to answer, as there are literally hundreds of styles of kung fu, and not all of them are designed for actual fighting. Tai Chi and Wushu are primarily done for katas, for example, so it'd be blatantly unfair to put an old man Tai Chi master against a highly athletic MMA fighter. MMA folk have a level of athleticism that ordinary people simply can't match. So, to make a fair comparison, we need several things. First, we need a kung fu fighter who is physically the match of an MMA fighter. We should also make sure they have the same weight class, becasue whomever is bigger has a huge advantage. And finally, we need a kung fu style that regularly fights in a ring setting. You might think that's a tall order, but it does exist. It's called Sanda, and we've already had several Sanda practitioners join the UFC. By and large, they're doing well, so I think we can say Kung Fu does work in that setting. But the bottom line is this: Style matters less than you'd think. There is no ultimate martial art, just ultimate martial artists.

That Capoerista is Marcus Aurélio Martins he's got a few montages from fans up. One of the few people that purposely altered original Capoeria with modern mma. Superb Athlete! Marcus Aurélio Martins

People downplay monks but if they simply put more time into sparring they could compete and do pretty good. Their training is no joke and are just as fit as pro fighters, full contact sparring is the only thing they would need.

He was literally lei wulong

Hey I do kung fu and kick boxing. I will say the difference is in sparring. Many teachers never sparr with other styles . My teachers did mma so they thought forms with that sort of knowledge behind if. Teaching basics of boxing and kicking first. Then forms and such . I subscribed I dug the channel you guys have

That was a sick drunken kick boxing fighting style. Threw me off there with his kicks to the ribs. That was basically KO, but the ref gave that other guy a long time to recover, until he recovered to fight again.

The Brazilian guy might had some fighting experience in not just Bjj, but in Vale tudo?

The second fight kung-fu guy has been winning alot in this organization.

Rolling on the floor laughing with the drunken style guy!

san shou is kungfu and it holds up well.

@kennyhi4724

6 жыл бұрын

haffoc agree. Sanshou, Sanda is Chinese Kung fu. It’s very effective.

@johnnychannarong5484

6 жыл бұрын

sanshou is chinese kickboxing, adapted to keep up with modern times because kung fu only worked on kung fu.. when kung fu was invented it was in china, and no china man had seen american boxing or other styles.. Muay thai beat all kung fu.. so china came up with sanda to match muay thai and counter their clinch with shuai jiao..

@kennyhi4724

6 жыл бұрын

The origin of Sanshou is from kung fu and shuai jiao.

@Supermomo2007

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnychannarong5484 no, wrong. so i why i win against thai boxers with my kung fu style?? because we do sparring, idiot. difference is always training method, not style.

@sjang816

3 жыл бұрын

@@Supermomo2007 I think you have real life and video games confused. a name is just a name but i have to question anyone that calls themselves supermomo

Once I got a hockey puck that flew at me and landed right under my sternum. I wasn't down, but it hurt. I went and sat on the bench for a few minutes, until the pain settles. I wasn't winded, surprisingly, even though I wasn't expecting to get hit like that.

I saw a very interesting story by an MmA fighter training in china. He said his class (lf training partners) were taken to see this tai chi master. And the master told the MMa guy to hit him. Thinking it wss a mistranslation, he set his arms up in the traditional tai chi training position, and the second his arm touched the master's he was flung to the ground. The master then said 'no, i said fight me. Do that ufc stuff'. So he got on a blxing stance and went serious. He threw a jab, and the second his arm extended fully he was thrown straight to the ground again. He said his judo coach, who was a chinese heavyweight olympian, then sparred with the master, and got schooled all kinds of ways as well. There are very few people who actually know tai chi, same goes for kung fu. Just like in a few decades there'll only be a handful of people who know actual legit karate or taejwondo, and just like how there're only a handful of people who could teach actual real japanese jujutsu. This is clearly one of those few masters who actually knows, understands and trains whatever style of kung fu he professes

@MCSPARTAN501

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Tai Chi is actually an effective martial art in the right hands. Most Tai Chi schools don't teach you how to apply the moves and even fewer include any sparring.

Have you checked up Emanuele agustus? The drunken dancing part is awesome to watch.

I once had a living room scuffle with a guy I was pretty sure was gonna beat the snot out of me. We'd been drinking, I stood up and stumbled a bit. He got super aggressive and I got a sweet double leg to slam out of it. Pretending to be drunk has its place.

7:58 Wow!! I am both surprised and impressed.

Love these type of videos, a bit different from the fake martial arts. Do more like this please

The mistake a lot of us make is putting all martial arts into one bag, this is an age where combat sports are more popular than ever however not every martial art falls into the realm of combat sport. for example a police officer may be great at joint locks and various techniques enabling him to subdue and arrest however this does not mean that he can successfully compete in boxing, wrestling or MMA, a lot of the systems in China never made the leap to combat sport, we hear of public lei tai matches of the past but those were never really codified and standardized per say. methods such as shuai jiao and sanda were made for competition from the very beginning and so today are the few that fit into those environments nicely

@joelhusbands3838

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I once knew this an ex soldier who got into boxing, he was well conditioned and could not get stunned or ko'd by the most experienced boxer in the gym but his boxing skill, striking, footwork etc was nowhere as good as the more experienced boxers, as tough as he was he'd get beat. This is the nature of combat, it's a more complexed thing than most of us would like to imagine. If the roles were reversed and the boxers joined the military, their boxing skill alone would not be sufficient for survival while on tour. MMA and all other combat sports are good and have their value but are only one part in the greater universe of martial arts. Don't get me wrong there is nothing unreal about combat sports imo they are a great way to go and can be useful in just about any confrontation, If you're going to fight it's better to be a well conditioned and experienced fighter no matter the fight. With regards to "bullshit martial arts " and the excuse of them not working in the ring because they're made for the street. I think this topic would be too long to type on. I don't intend on writing a Thesis on youtube today. All I can say is that before classing a martial art as useless it is important to know about it's history as in when and why it was created and what it was created for, it's also important to understand how the martial art has evolved or in some cases devolved and what factors led to this. A classic case would be Kalaripayattu which was largely a battlefield art and also in some cases used in combat arenas, you won't find Kalaripayattu being used as a combat sport today, It's mostly exhibition now because the world has changed, The invention of guns changed the game, at one time the martial art had all but disappeared and was revived in the 20th century, I have no doubt that the movements and strikes of kalarippayattu combined with the grappling arts such as Malla-yuddha etc would have made a great fighter, They worked for the military since the BC era but things change, people today still find value in practicing it, but the way it is practiced today does not fit it into the category of combat sport and a casual practitioner would not stand a chance in the combat sport environment.

@Rotinaj37

5 жыл бұрын

Who puts all martial arts into one bag? When it comes to effectiveness in an unarmed 1v1 fight, that is the bag martial arts are generally put in. With good reason. Not sure what exactly you're referring to with police officers being great at joint locks but that's not really relevant. How often are you seeing a cop use aikido-esque joint locks to arrest people? Not to mention he's most likely using those techniques on a person who has zero training, or a person who isn't full force trying to kill him. If someone was trying to full on stab a cop for example, they would just shoot him. That's the current technique for cops. Point being, plenty of martial arts deserve to be scrutinized for being ineffective, whether or not a couple cops did a wrist-lock takedown to someone. You get what I mean?

that capo guy was interesting he had so much momentum in his kicks, they looked terrifying also that drunken guy was a learning experience too, I never understood how you would hit anyone just flopping around like that I didn't realize they just suddenly snap out of the drunken sway and catch you off guard, it sounds really dangerous for both fighters since one has to actually commit to that

I have 5 broken ribs right now I've probably broken 13 or 14 in my life total. I've also fractured my sternum twice and bruised my heart a minimum of 3x. And of course you can still breathe when you're got broken ribs or we wouldn't be here any longer. It just hurts really badly to breathe deep. So what you end up doing is surviving on half a breath or 3/4 of a breath for weeks at a time. Basically you just take in as much air as you can until you can't handle how much it hurts. The more you breath in the more it hurts. So sometimes that's half a breath sometimes that's 3/4. As time goes on it increases and eventually goes back to being able to inhale a full breath of air. But it can literally take months for broken ribs to heal. And it sucks. And the whole time it hurts to cough to laugh to yell or raise your voice, or sneeze even that's a nasty one right there sneezing hurts like a motherfuker

Drunken gets easier after you get the swagger going. My school practiced several forms of Kung-fu and we sparred cross styles. I only progressed so far but red shorts there was fantastic. Very nice rolling axe kick out of a combination attack, beautiful! The snake style was impressive, but alas I am not as familiar with it. That snake seemed slower than the ones I sparred with... but definitely more skilled.

I don’t know your channel very well but I’ve never seen you include Yi Long. Is there a reason for that?

Hey question for pretty much everyone cuz I feel stuck on that last fight, shouldn't have the ref called it off after that first kick to the body?

Have you reacted to this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIlspJieftCYqtY.html ? Anyways, I do agree with you, Kung Fu (and any other TMA) just needs to have realistic sparring and it can be pretty useful. Btw, whats your opinion on HEMA, wrestling specifically?

@ericdavis9210

6 жыл бұрын

KungFu Balkan Good point! If you don't spar, you won't be able to fight lol.

@kungfubalkan6646

6 жыл бұрын

Yup

I've got to hand it to the drunken kung-fu guy for maintaining the drunk stagger walk while his opponent was on the ground being seen to by the ref. That's commitment!

Let's see some Mma fighters vs high level shuai jao and sanda fighters.

@Supermomo2007

4 жыл бұрын

Or hung gar and choy lee fut fighters

It was awesome to see how amazing drunken style was! Kung fu CAN work!

Have you gentleman reviewed Yi Long's fights? He claims to be a Shaolin monk(which he is not), but he actually has serious Traditional Martal Arts trainning background.

I like the ring in the capoeira fight. In MMA the cage can get in the way and the ring with ropes is not ideal for Martial Arts especially the grappling. I would much rather have an open space like that circular ring. Also the platform the Shaolin Monk and Tae Kwon Do guys fight on was nice. The dry ice effect also makes it look mystical.

Alot of hate on Kung Fu however there are plenty of videos showing useless karate points based training and flashy useless kicks from takewando just an example. I think your being quite scrutinise of kung fu. Most Karate i know wouldn’t stand a chance against western wing chung.

@richardcopersroommate8928

6 жыл бұрын

thingyee1118 all Kung-Fu styles are bullshit except for sanda related stuff

@JuanPablo-tx5pr

6 жыл бұрын

Aymen Nib You don't know shit about kung fu. I would bet you don't practice any martial art. You're just an internet talker.

@richardcopersroommate8928

6 жыл бұрын

Mars Ultor I do and I compete regularly actually. Got a sanda local competition coming up in 2 weeks. I just do effective time tested stuff against fully resisting trained opponents , not fucking around with shit like wing chun or whatever. And not jerking myself off about all these supposed morals that martial arts teach. I actually practice fighting, mainly because it’s fun.

@dickbison

5 жыл бұрын

Choy Lee Fut is a traditional style and they do pretty well in sanda and kickboxing

If you study the shaolin monk's body mechanics closely, you'll see his kicks are just the endpoint of a continuously connected rubbery web of muscle. His whole body is kicking. The TKD guy's kicks on the other hand, are separated from the body. Just thrown loosely at the target. This shows that, even if the 1000 prettified movements in a kungfu are useless in fighting, they build a larger variety of support and balance muscles that provide a more solid framework for useful moves to be launched from. The vast variety also gives kungfu artists a more detailed and nuanced understanding of combat. Even as Graceffo bitched about how incompetent kungfu stylists are in all his travels, he also said people who start out in kungfu and then move to sanshou always outperform people who start in sanshou. So, kungfu is the best place to start and the worst place to stay.

In Choy Lay Fut we do a lot of forearm conditioning due to some of the strikes.

That butterfly kick was nice

Good footwork, with ineffective contact!

Shao Lin guy was pretty amazing. His speed and parrying were subtle and deceptive. Done properly, that "slap" to the TKD kicker's leg - should be a targeted counter-attack to a nerve group, or a vulnerable area of muscles and the circulatory system , which diminishes the strength and speed of the opponent. Every move you make, every time you touch the opponent, the goal is to break down structures. I liked this fighter the most - drunken guy comes in second. I think that the Japanes fighter may have been at a significant weight disadvantage, along with his lack of aggressiveness and speed. He seemed to have an athletic deficit, when compared to the Capoeira/BJJ fighter. I would also question the level of his Kung Fu skills.

Kung fu masters of the old times were really into fighting, duels to death were frequent, there's this one famous master who boasted he never had to hit a man a 2nd time cos they would die from the 1st punch, he had a record too. The fighters would defend their style and school to no end. The old timers would've been interested in testing their skill and would've been seen in MMA/UFC. I suppose the reason we don't see these proud kung fu fighters in UFC is because they are a dying breed, the fighting stopped ages ago, no more need to learn to fight to defend ur life and school like before.

@easternstrategist5276

6 жыл бұрын

muslim salikhov, cung le are both Sanda fighters. Most of Sanda fighters are in kickboxing because they make money there more than MMA. If you refer to traditional martial art, welcome to try the game in Chinese wrestling, mongolian wrestling. They are hold every year.

Kung fu has the deepest well with the most leaky bucket. Its up to the practitioner to pick what works for them and solely focus on those handful of techniques.

Funny to see that pattern over the years: XY does not work, do Y. Y does not work, do Z. Z does not-...and so on... After that many years practicing myself, after seeing many many different styles and fighters I can assure you one thing: Style does not matter as much as you think

@adramalech3385

6 жыл бұрын

All martial arts have simillar tehniques. Because they are all natural moves of the body. I've seen guys fighting and doing some insane Traditional Jujutsu things and they didn't even know about Jujutsu style. Try to think how would they look after 3-4 years training into actual Japanese Jujutsu or Judo. Some people are natural born fighters with an intuitive knowledge of the body and movement dynamics.

@hallobre

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, a lot of styles offer the same, but training them is not the same. Why do you think old school straight up boxing is popular, or even Muay Thai ? No crazy moves, just a straight forward training and is easy to learn. In a few months practice your good to go. That’s the main reason why Kung fu is portrayed as bad. It’s hard to master, the training sucks, and it’s too much of a round about way of doing things. I believe that today’s Kung fu is a fake or watered down version of what used to be a good product. The same fake product that Ip man has teached to Bruce lee. The real wing chun was kept a secret from him.

@Rotinaj37

5 жыл бұрын

Style matters quite a bit. There are so many bogus styles out there that it's important for people to know what to look at when wanting to learn a martial art with competitive aspirations, or self defense.

In traditional kung fu a form is used to learn the words, sparing is learning how to use those words.

In the least, The way Kung Fu is widely taught and practiced is flawed.

@Nothernmantis

5 жыл бұрын

Agree

Huh. Drunken fist can be effective against the right guy. Who knew. This is one of the best vids yet. I wonder if anyone is practicing kungfu concepts? Not an actual martial art but more of a esoteric way of fighting that uses mma as a base and incorporates the most effective kungfu techniques as well as the most effective techniques from other martial arts.

That victory dance

Was the drunken guy's shorts backwards?

*FOR CLARIFICATION:* Bruce Lee was *not* in COBRA, the movie. It was filmed in 1981, and Bruce died in '73. The actor in that film is Bruce Lei, aka Steve Lee.

I would call that first video a demonstration more than a fight

8:00 Perfectly executed side kick.

I'm pretty sure that in the 1st fight both fighters were asked not to land actual hits to their opponents so that the TV show can be made.

Nice shoutout to Thug Rose! 🌹👏

How was the second fight an example of kung fu?

How does drunken boxes stand up under a lot of forward pressure?

The last one is crazy

Is this not full contact becauss they are not trying to hit eachother in the first one...

Jerry, do a case study on Emanuel Augustus, a boxer with drunken-boxing like style, even Floyd Mayweather said he was the toughest opponent he has ever fought.

@FightCommentary

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting! On it!

In 4:15 you can see the "wing chun" that Vitor Belfort used to KO Wanderley Silva

I've said this a million times but it bares repeating. Kung fu takes a long time to master, not only that the difference between a lot of the MMA fighters and Kung Fu students is the amount of time spent sparing. Sparing is experience, and I would love to show that chinese Dong guy why it is effective, and also that he's doing kung fu and doesn't even realize it.

@coulj6917

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree, sparring is the difference too many traditional kung Fu schools do little or no no sparring at all. I have a saying " if you don't spar, you don't know how to fight. Why are Muy Thai fighters 1000 times more effective than most stand up fighting styles? because of the emphasis on sparring!

Does this or that martial art work? I think they do but 2 things need to be taken into account. 1. What your skill level is when using a style. 2. Who you're fighting. Different types of people will affect how you're able to use a style. An attacker who's around your size and age will result in one type of fight for you. An attacker who is heavier and stronger than you will result in another type of fight for you. The key is to train against a variety of people of various ages,sizes and fighting abilities.

My sifu insisted on cross training. In my case i used Sanshou, Bjj, boxing. Fun times were had by all...sort of... Maybe... Ouch

That monk is real. Korean guy was lucky it was a paid promotion. That was the real Kung Fu you keep on making fun of.

in that grappling situation in a real street fight, the karate or kungfu guy may use the finger or spear hand strike or extended knuckles to strike the face or eyes against the guy on top. the kungfu or karate guy will counter the grappling by punching with a gloved-hands or by grappling also which is not his forte.

So.. not even one Sanda match? That is what kung fu in the ring is.

I laughed, I cried, I learned more taunts.

They have openings when they kick so its interesting why any of them didnt kick while the other dude was kicking?

That monk is a machine

Ribs are the worst. One time, in the grocery store, I was leaning on the cart all weird while my wife perused the shampoo section. A sneeze came up on me so fast that I rolled over the floating rib and it hurt so bad I dropped like the dude from the drunken kickboxer kicked me.

that drunken guy martial artist should fight xu xiaodong! he's phenomenal :D