Providing drivers with clear, basic information about speed and range close to their normal eyeline, instead of packed onto the central touchscreen along with everything else, is a very welcome choice by Citroen and one I wish other EV makers would consider.

@originalmossman

6 ай бұрын

Came here to say exactly that - I really like that gauge cluster!

@ligametis

6 ай бұрын

Probably it is done like this because it is also an ICE car. For some reason most purely EV cars have stupid layouts.

@supreme_xenon

6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Toyota has done the same thing with their gauge cluster in the Prius and bZ4X but everyone loses their mind

@BenjaminVestergaard

4 ай бұрын

That and sticking to actual buttons you can feel without moving the eyes off the road. Also a safety feature if you ask me.

@EricBowyer-vm4dk

2 ай бұрын

, 2:14 2:14

Finally the option to save money and skip an unwanted fancy TV screen - will be interesting to see how this takes off in UK

@FFVoyager

6 ай бұрын

I think the e-Up!/Mii/CityGo were quite successful with just a phone holder. 🤔

@yetufekci1

6 ай бұрын

But how can we do the fart sound???

@rinnin

6 ай бұрын

Would love to know how much extra the screen costs 🤔

@oliverstemp9132

6 ай бұрын

The phone holder version won’t sell

@The1trueDave

6 ай бұрын

I never did like the trend for huge TFT screens 30-odd degrees off the driver's eyeline so I'm glad someone's offering the option to do without. How much information do you need in an EV anyway? Engine rpm - don't care Oil level/ temperature - irrelevant Boost pressure/ vacuum gauge - irrelevant Just give me a speedo/ trip computer/ range indicator and I'm good. Phone can do satnav & music 🤷

I didn’t think Citroen would just take the Chinese EV onslaught without a fight, it appears they have proven they are up to the challenge. Well done 👍

@estmeta

6 ай бұрын

Fun fact: e-C3 is based on the so called "Smart Car" platform, derived from PSA's CMP platform, which is was jointly developed by the Dongfeng motors back in the 2010s. And both e-CMP and Dongfeng are proven losers of the Chinese market.

@filipbabovic8474

6 ай бұрын

@@ndukasmithLet me guess from US?💀

@gs188

6 ай бұрын

@@ndukasmithTesla, Polestar, MG, some BMWs… all popular EVs in the UK market that are made in China.

@chemicalbuz

6 ай бұрын

​@@ndukasmithdo you realise they litteraly just started to sell in Europe, plus the price is double than the exact same model in China, right?

@itsomarz9337

6 ай бұрын

They won’t 😂 the chinese still better value for money😂

Bought a new C3 back in 2008 for less than £8k, still have it brilliant car, though £20k is totally unaffordable for many, the price of EV’s are heading in the right direction, the question is what would the price of this car be if not for Chinese competition?

@st200ol

4 ай бұрын

£8000 in 2008 is the same as £13000 today, so yes £20k is still a bit pricey but not as bad as you make it sound.

@paul_wiggin

3 ай бұрын

If not Chinese competition, it would cost 40k+

@MasinacCcC

3 ай бұрын

Extactly.. I don't know when 23k euro became cheap and affordable... Wish my salary raised quickly as car prices.

@lkrnpk

3 ай бұрын

a lot of them are expensive now, except for Dacia or even those with higher specs are maybe 17k euros... so cheapest car you can buy which is like this is 17k.... if they sell this EV at 23, it is not that much of a difference, that are the prices now... Still if the Chinese wished, they could match the price of ICE already. Ora 03 (Good Cat, Funky Cat) here in Baltics started to sell at 24 995 euros, it is a bigger car than this@@MasinacCcC

Half the cars we have purchased over the last 35 years have been Citroen's , nice to see they are back on track for cheap and cheerful cars for the masses.Lets hope the price stays sensible when it gets here,

@dorianleakey

6 ай бұрын

"Lets hope the price stays sensible when it gets here," my heart sank a little when i read this sentence. "oh yeah, it wont be so cheap here"

@n49o7

6 ай бұрын

So you bought 2 cars and one was a Citroen?

@erikjohansson2703

6 ай бұрын

​@@n49o735/5=7 cars??

@toyotaprius79

6 ай бұрын

If only this e-C3 was remotely a Citroën by design

@RonnyJakobsson

6 ай бұрын

I can not afford to buy Citroën. I had 2 Citroën in the year 2016 one C4 2013 and a C4 Gran Picasso 2016. I managed to have just one car the whole year, Since one always was on service for faults. It totally drained my economy so I got rid of them both and bought 2 Skoda instead and ran them 100 000km without any problem.

One of the craziest things is, that this car is actually looking good. Always had a thing for Citroen for being the oddball of the automotive industry. I might actually get one. Hope it’s a big hit - maybe the other brands will see that a car like that works too.

@oxaile4021

4 ай бұрын

This is what all the manufacturers should have focused on from the start. EVs that everyone can afford. Now EVs are seen as rich peoples toys and are hated just because of that.

Well done Citroen, one of the underrated makers with a great history of delivering a good level of vehicle for a vey accessible price point.

I've been saying for a while that we don't need EVs to have hundreds of horsepower and every bit of new technology, Keep it simple, make it so it can work on a road just as any other car, and you get more range, quicker charging, lighter weight, cheaper price!

@Elaba_

5 ай бұрын

The Indian version doesn't have cooling.

@NerdyLlamaFarmer

5 ай бұрын

@@Elaba_damn… the only country that definitely needs cooling

@Elaba_

5 ай бұрын

@@NerdyLlamaFarmer It has got only passive cooling.

This is a breath of fresh air. No Chinese shady deals. No over-the-top, mandatory "luxury" options of European brands. Just simple, practical, affordable, frugal. Just what I need. Hopefully the build quality is good, for now this car is #1 on my list

@toyotaprius79

6 ай бұрын

It's not fresh. It's not as shady as your yellow peril mantra. It would be so much better if it weren't an SUV wannabe

@logicalChimp

6 ай бұрын

@@toyotaprius79 Kinda agree with your first point... not so much with your second. In this case, the 'SUV factor' just means they raised the ride-height and the roof-line slightly, and slapped some plastic cladding on the wheel arches. Growing vertically may - marginally - impact efficiency, but it's also why it's got reasonable boot-space (deep boot, vertically, rather than extending further into the car). Given the e-C3 is not about 'sporty handling' or performance, the downsides to the increased ride height are less significant - and they give more travel for the squashy / comfortable suspension, etc.

@salvadordavinci7

6 ай бұрын

Same

@davenobody407

6 ай бұрын

You got to explain what shady deals you’re talking about!

@marcogiuliano1817

6 ай бұрын

Are you serious? It has very little autonomy, ridiculous performance and derives from a model for emerging markets, so a step back from the outgoing c3. I don’t understand all your enthusiasm.

This little car makes a lot of sense. I've always thought the automaker which produces an EV under 25k with a half decent range will sell considerable volumes.

@V1ciousR

6 ай бұрын

Let's hope you're right!

@user-wx6vz2vn3y

6 ай бұрын

That's not a little car

@zog97xy

6 ай бұрын

No they won't its overpriced.

@tsopuaifa

5 ай бұрын

And light weight. 👌

@Valentin-oc5nh

5 ай бұрын

should be 11k

Excellent! Gimme that base-spec screenless version, which means they'll never have to sell a buttonless eC3 no matter what. Also, let's have more of the fun stuff - I'd take the 2CV themed paintwork over boring monochrome white/black/grey schemes (especially that awful trend of what I can only describe as 'lacquered primer' non-colour). Waiting for the option with a cloth full length slide-back sun roof and different colour wheel arch plastic for further 2CV 'nuss' !

My Chevy Bolt 2017 Premier has a screen but no navigation, however you can plug in your iPhone or Android and then you'll get to use the entire screen for navigation. Smart way to reduce cost.

At last, some really positive news on EV prices, rather than laugh-out-loud incredulity.

@fallinginthed33p

6 ай бұрын

An electric 2CV which is a good thing. 320 km on WLTP is fine for most daily usage.

@myMotoring

6 ай бұрын

This is weird - a French car that isn't weird.

@JeanBaklazan

6 ай бұрын

@@fallinginthed33p even if its 200km real life its a good one - I don't really need much more

@fallinginthed33p

6 ай бұрын

@@JeanBaklazan that's what we need for new cars really, these medium range EVs for city driving

@burgersnchips

6 ай бұрын

It's 20 grand. That's not cheap especially for a Citroen 😂

Excellent price and particularly pleased to see it come with an LFP battery. That means you can charge it to 100% all the time. This is very important for a car with a smaller battery as you are at least getting all the range it can give. Would be interested to know if it had one pedal driving and the charging speed but aside from that this is a no-brainer. Our current main car is a model 3 with our second car being an aging Prius. Would seriously consider this as a replacement for the Prius.

@BMWHP2

6 ай бұрын

That LFP battery, the 320km range (and the price) pulled me over the line of buying. When no competition arrives before sales date, Our next car will be this Citroën.

@strollingwithsi

6 ай бұрын

This is the same for me and my family. We also have a model 3 for our main car, and my wife has an ageing petrol Skoda Fabia for short journeys. This little Citeron could be a great replacement.

@Nikoo033

6 ай бұрын

Let’s put things into perspective: 44kWh is not a small EV battery. It’s average. I have a Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh. This is small, and yet has a range of 115-150 miles. Enough for most people. 😁

@gaelgauth8470

6 ай бұрын

Announced charging power : 100 kW. Assuming this LFP battery is good, You might get a pretty decent fast charge to 100% on your highway trip, allowing for 200km stages. Very much relevant.

@gronkjor

6 ай бұрын

@@Nikoo033 Very true. I get by in my Mini Electric (29 kwh useable) just fine. Even for road trips its not too bad - if you like a coffee break every 180 km that is :-)

Excellent job. Thanks for telling us the battery chemistry!

Great and refreshingly entertaining presentation style. Thank you.

That's fabulous. Citroen are doing the right thing. An EV for everyone.

@Joinusinfrance

6 ай бұрын

The 2CV of the future perhaps?

@FFVoyager

6 ай бұрын

@@Joinusinfranceit might be a '2CV for today'. I look forward to hearing more about the suspension - I doubt it will be as good as the old two-shove (or anywhere near the old hydropnumatic floating DS/CX/BX/Xantias I've driven/had)

@davidlazarus67

6 ай бұрын

They need to. Unless they get economy’s of scale they will be unprepared to deal with the Chinese EV’s that are coming, at half the price.

@FFVoyager

6 ай бұрын

@@davidlazarus67 £11k cars from China? 🤔

@davidlazarus67

6 ай бұрын

@@FFVoyager Less than that. The cheapest is only £4000, it’s a bit like the Citroen Ami but much cheaper. There are quite a few around £10,000 but we would have to add VAT and duties.

In many European countries you can get a few thousand euros discount for EVs. So if that's not already counted in the price, this can be well below 20k euros to buy

@marcusott2973

6 ай бұрын

I've seen them previewed at 17.666 € which I guess is the subsidised price here in Austria.

@MartinT

6 ай бұрын

​@@marcusott2973wow that is a good price for the Austrian people then!

@dmc.3800

6 ай бұрын

should be around 12k euros in Romania

@davidcolin6519

6 ай бұрын

That would be about €16K here, in Spain. There really aren't many new cars that come in at that price.

@abbykeyzer

6 ай бұрын

In Belgium you get 5000 euro's when you're ev cost less than 40000 euro's .

Finally ! Tesla & VW have lost first to market for volume car. eC3 likely to be my next daily commuter. Agree with you Jack, fantastic that the base car comes without the screen! Admire the eUp for that too. Look forward to your drive review with less journo ... competition ... rudeness. Funny moments for us. Great review

@woutdezeeuw1604

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, no screen that can break, no software that will be outdated in 4 years time. Let me just slap my phone onto the dashboard, and I'm good.

@yourcrazybear

6 ай бұрын

"Finally ! Tesla & VW have lost first to market for volume car. " That's nothing to cheer. Nissan Leaf entered the market before Tesla. See how that turned out.

@haukionkannel

5 ай бұрын

@@woutdezeeuw1604 True… if you phone gets outdated in 5 years… you buy new 200€ phone and good to go next 5 years!

I love the idea of optional center screen... They become stale really fast and just take space... I can use a tablet or my phone which would be very very easy to upgrade well maintained and up to date apps responsive and etc... Just give a bluetooth connection to speakers, actually not need that either just pass it through usb-c

this looks like genuinely good news! this makes it realistic for many of us to buy a new BEV car with a decently sized battery, and that is SO exciting :) cannot wait for these to hit the market!!!

I love it, the idea not to have screen and have phone there (if the car has also bluetooth speakers/mic) is amazing!

What I also like is how they choose to use a classic key to "start" the car rather that all these "keyless" thing, that have been proved to be easy to bypass by carjacker (easier at least).

Nice to see the grey paint. Hadn't seen that yet. Also didn't realise the entry level would have no screen, just a phone connector. Good to know.

I notice dealers advertising Vauxhall Corsa electric pretty much new but the original model for under £20k now. A lot less than list and it appears good discounts appearing all over the place now. The C3 a step in the right direction though 😊

Wow, great price, decent range and it's not even ugly

@-_James_-

6 ай бұрын

All three of those points are very very subjective.

@yourcrazybear

6 ай бұрын

@@-_James_- "All three of those points are very very subjective." No. Only the style can be considered "very very subjective". The rest can be measured in a more objective way.

@vale461mitoMedia

6 ай бұрын

​@@yourcrazybearno they are subjective. 320km is too low, 23k€ is too high and it's bad design

@yourcrazybear

6 ай бұрын

@@vale461mitoMedia "no they are subjective. " I never claimed the opposite. Let me repeat myself. Only the style can be considered "very very subjective". The rest can be measured in a more objective way.

@vale461mitoMedia

6 ай бұрын

@@yourcrazybear sorry. The right phrase is they are obkective

Good Morning, One of the best things about Fully Charged is the ability to comment and communicate. You are an interested and open channel. It is just great and I really it. appreciate it

I loved my C3, and now have a C4. Great cars and innovative too. I really hope it gets brought down under as we need good small cars here in Australia!

I love the cars shape. It does have a unique character about it. It does not have to look like a stylized egg on wheels. I only wish it could come to Canada.😊

@dsp4392

6 ай бұрын

Range in Canada on a -40°C day: about 3km.

@seabream

6 ай бұрын

@@dsp4392 But since it's not a road trip vehicle, and more than half the population of the country lives in places where they might get one or two days in five years where it even gets as cold as -25˚C, and that at night, they could still sell into those areas. I had a 40 kWh LEAF before I traded up to a 62 kWh one. And yeah, NRCAN mixed cycle rated range was 242 km while at -22˚C with a cold soaked battery, I didn't want to do a round trip of more than 115 km (so I'd have some buffer in case of detours etc...) on a charge, but you know, even for suburbanites, that's quite a lot. Now, who knows what the price would be here. At current exchange rate, £20,300 is about 34,000 CAD, which after federal rebate would be 29K, BC and Quebec can get a bit more from provincial programs. A Corolla hatchback starts at 27K, and can be optioned to 33K. Not bad comparitively. Though, obviously straight exchange rate isn't an accurate reflection of what a car would cost in a different market with different costs for the manufacturer and retailer.

Grumpy people still in the comments about the price...😂

Very happy to see an option to bin the mega-screen

I was obsessed with the Oli when I saw it, and I'm so happy that they're taking that concept and slowly turning it into a reality

I love it and Citroën successfully hit the right comfort and autonomy, for a reasonable price. Only thing I wish it had is a chargeable V2H/V2L option (500€ / 1000€) to be able to use it to store solar energy during the day, and reuse it during the morning/night. It seems that the future Renault 5 will have V2G functionality built-in so that makes the choice a bit difficult between the 2 of them…

Glad to see "Braking system fault" illuminated on the dash. Wouldn't be a Citroen without an electrical fault! I say that as a Citroen owner.

@ColinCarFan

6 ай бұрын

...and the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System lamp is illuminated on his car 10 seconds earlier

@Harrythehun

6 ай бұрын

Hahaha I admire the honesty. My sister did absolutely love her Citroën C3, built like a tank (made of baguettes)

@RobA500

6 ай бұрын

You’ll probably find it was running a demonstration, many new cars do that now.

Rocking that 90's centre parting.

You do a lot of comparisons between cars in videos you should do 1 video to compare your top picks across various things not just price. For example like Range, cost, materials used, battery differences, styling by group, etc

If that’s under £20k it gonna put the hotcake seller out of business .

@JackScarlett1

6 ай бұрын

New favourite expression, will be using in an upcoming vid

@antoniopalmero4063

6 ай бұрын

@@JackScarlett1 Cool , great review Jack .

I think if anyone is serious about pollution and energy you’re going to have to go light as well as being affordable, so to me this seems a good idea,just think less weight means less particulates in town as well.

@Nikoo033

6 ай бұрын

Which particulates are you referring to regarding EVs?

@stephenbroadhurst7653

6 ай бұрын

@@Nikoo033 Just the real harmful PM 2.5 ones that come from rubber and road surface wear, the same as ICE vehicles .The thing is you get some real nasty particles from tyres because they are made from oil.(polyaromatic hydrocarbons ,benzothiazoles, isoprene and heavy metals like zinc and lead).

@logicalChimp

6 ай бұрын

Yes, tyres give off some particulates (and yes, I would love for them to be eliminated, but that's unlikely in the near future). However, even with heavier EVs, the tyre particulates are on par with ICE tyre particulates (or less, depending on which ICE you compare to... many ICE these days are as heavy - or heavier - than EVs)... but iirc tyre particulates are only a couple of percent of overall particulates from a Desiel ICE (petrol ICE particulates are lower). So if your concern is particulates, then *any* EV will be orders of magnitude better than an ICE (especially given that EVs also don't generate particulates from slipping the clutch, and generate far fewer brake-dust particulates too).

@stephenbroadhurst7653

6 ай бұрын

@@logicalChimp A modern turbo diesel car is responsible for 13% of PM 2.5 roadside particulates in towns, 3% of which comes from exhaust emissions,now if you use ultra low sulphur fuel such as shell v power this halves this figure to 10 ppm (1.5%)now you can go even further and use Biodiesel this is then reduced to 5 ppm (0.75%)So the original 3% is now only 0.75 of one percent which is nothing compared to the tyre and road surface particulates, but I suppose you don’t want to know that .

@t1n4444

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Of course the heavyweight battery fans don't want reminding. In their world they're all eco warriors. The concept of less than perfect road surfaces is entirely forgotten. The concept of having an enormous battery weighing in at hundreds of kGs is forgotten too.

Love the replacement of those screens. Common, let me use my phone! Thanks for this. Would they be in production soon? And would it be sold in Canada? And support?

Super video Jack. lovely little car. French being french, Jack and crew did a lovely job.

There are a lot of people in the comments saying that £20K isn't cheap, and that's true, but if that becomes the normal price for a new EV, it should cut down the price of second hand EVs. Though I'm personally still waiting for reliable V2G tech to make the most of my solar panel array...

@bullshitbingo2259

6 ай бұрын

The upcoming Renault 5 should come with V2G capabilites included. In the base, which should start at €25k it should come with a 42kWh NMC battery. There is an option for a bigger 52kWh battery for a bit over €30k. The final presentation is end of February 2024.

@swecreations

6 ай бұрын

That's still at a price where literally any gasoline car will be more expensive to buy and own.

@chrisjeffery9582

6 ай бұрын

@@swecreations I haven't really run the numbers on new cars since I only do a few thousand miles a year and I do all my own maintenance on a '58 plate car, though I think if you are comparing like for like on new cars a £5K difference in purchase price will take a fair amount of distance/maintenance/number of years to balance that out. My car sits on the drive probably an average of 22 hours a day and it covers maybe 60 miles a week so being able to optimise the times at which I sell the electricity I generate by using the car as a power bank with V2G tech is what would make my own very specific use case viable.

@haukionkannel

5 ай бұрын

You need something like 80000km in total and after that EV is startin to get cheaper… if you can charge at home.

@chrisjeffery9582

5 ай бұрын

@@haukionkannel There is no real way to establish those numbers, there are cars that can go twice as far on the same charge as others... Not to mention what ICE car you're comparing it to...

This looks fantastic, at an amazing price. It's a shame it'll never come to North America. We could use something like this, especially at this price.

@laser_simon922

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, its just like ⅛ of a regular US car, so you would probably be the only buyer…

@willswomble7274

6 ай бұрын

You wouldn't fit in, just as you wouldn't fit in even a VW i3. So the manufacturers aint going to the huge expense of sending them over and marketing them to you.

@theagentsmith

6 ай бұрын

@@stephen10. of course they have now a good price, they aren't true off-roaders anymore. Jeep Renegade have the same platform of a Fiat 500X

@oscaralbertoguerrero9143

6 ай бұрын

It should be available in MX. Maybe not as a Citroen. But as a Peugeot/FIAT. Heck, it won't surprise me if it sells as a Dodge.

@Jesuscger

6 ай бұрын

@@oscaralbertoguerrero9143 This type of suspension can only be assembled on Citroen cars.

Great video. I dint mind the messy ness it had its charm aswell

like the vid, love the car especially with the option of no screen

On the basis I have probably commented a fair few times on the cost of cars you have reviewed, I will say this is definitely a step in the right direction, but let us see exactly what it does sell for in the UK… assuming it will come to the UK in EV form 🤔

@JackScarlett1

6 ай бұрын

Crossing all the fingers.

@tagg8233

6 ай бұрын

A regular C3 in Germany starts at €12k, I would imagine this would scale in the same way to whatever price the regular C3 goes for in the UK

@benrgrogan

6 ай бұрын

​@@tagg8233UK C3 starts from the equivalent of 16€ in the UK, so a bit of a premium but we often get slightly different specs compared to the mainland.

Yay an EV without a TV on the dash

8:00 The Quartic Steering Wheel from the Austin Allegro is back.

Great to see some of the most innovative car brands in europe shows this progressive, affordable AND beautifully crafted EV "for everyone" Highly appreciate their efforts and it's a nice surprise this will come rather soon than in "some longer time ahead" as most of the announcements these days from the traditional car makers. Love the Fully Charged Show to always be ahead of the time trends and share this with our community.

@yourcrazybear

6 ай бұрын

"Great to see some of the most innovative car brands in europe shows this progressive, affordable AND beautifully crafted EV "for everyone"" For everyone? Nope. I would hardly call Citroen an innovative car brand either.

@emiledekam2925

6 ай бұрын

​@@yourcrazybearCitroen may not have had the best cars all throughout its history but it really has done some really innovative things. I had a lot of lectures on mobility history and Citroen really did some amazing things

Makes the Dacia Spring look like a poor deal (if it ever does come to the UK) and should give the BYD Seagull a run for its money.

@allisterbullock213

6 ай бұрын

I read somewhere that the Dacia Spring will arrive in the UK in 2024 at a lower price than this (but also with a smaller battery).

well done citroen.. this car is a turning point for many... for those who are entering the EV world for the first time, for taxi drivers, for those who want to have another car, for those who want to have an EV but don't have 40-50,000 euros for dry electric ones ... I have an e-c4 and I am delighted with it. If I have the opportunity next year, I will also buy this one...

Really hoping the price and the other specs stay this way. Do you know when it will go on sale?

Wonderful. I am British but live in France and have owned several Citroens. The best ride of any car. Well done Citroen.

This is what VW promised the ID.3 would be but of course VW broke that promise. Let's see how adamantly Germans will stay loyal to VW when facing the e-C3.

@EPeltzer

6 ай бұрын

Yeah still waiting for the people's electric car from the people's car company.

Jack is a legend! Entertaining and informative all at the same time.

@jateeta3061

6 ай бұрын

And he’s trying to bring back 90’s boyband haircuts!

Nice! Can't buy them here, but at the very least it serves as a wake-up call for other manufacturers. Now that you mention it, optimising manufacturing and assembly processes around bespoke EV architecture could make a big difference. Looks a bit like a Kia Soul.

Great video, thanks 👍

Citroen is one of a few manufacturers, who bring concepts almost unchanged to serial production and in addition it's affordable! Well done, Citroen!

@toyotaprius79

6 ай бұрын

Be real, there's nothing conceptual about this e-C3 other than the Oli headlights

@clorox1676

6 ай бұрын

@@toyotaprius79 Indeed. I love the Oli concept. If you're going to make a cheap car, make it a statment. Nobody wants a cheap AND boring car.

And when they put all this tech in a middle sized van at around that price they will conquer the tradesman market

@mraidymaddful

6 ай бұрын

It amazes me when they bring out say a Transit Electric with only 120 miles of range. I mean, what bloody use is that!!

@grotline

6 ай бұрын

@@mraidymaddful the power from that single motor is a bout the same as the Citroen Dispatch/Peugeot Expert 2.0l diesel, so will pull the weight in the vehicle, sure the range is only half of a diesel version but you can live with that, provided it costs less to do the same mileage with the price of electricity against diesel, and of course keep the price around the 20k mark they would clean up

I would get this tomorrow if my area had a decent public charging network set up as theres no way I can charge at home. Thats the main thing holding me back

the clip at the very end omgggg 😆

Finally 👏 just what we have been waiting to see.

I really REALLY hope they sell these a lot! So that all other car makers finally wake up! This is exactly the type of product we need to make the transition to a more sustainable mobility! Simple, affordable, essential, cleaner than gasoline car for everyday use! Have to say: French people have quite a story on making Revolutions! Maybe they’ll start a new one if they keep doing this products! As a matter of fact, with this car Citroen will join Dacia (Renault really) on being the only affordable electric cars produced in Europe! 😮 Volkswagen, are you listening?

Whoa! I finally found that guy with the great reviews of his GTi mk5, he's a journalist now. Awesome!

A bargain, especially with that guy in the front to chauffeur you around. As entertaining as always thanks Jack. Well done Citroen!!

I believe the citron ec3 comes with air cooled battery system rather than liquid cooled in other evs. Hence the lower price. Although I love the base model without touch screen & all gimmicks. I’d rather put my iPad there than some laggy / janky touchscreen.

@philrichmond5919

6 ай бұрын

And the VW Beetle had an air cooled engine and was hugely successful. Like the Beetle this is the anti-performance car, it hasn’t got a motor that will tax the battery with high amp draw that generates heat so why add the complexity and expense of liquid cooling? It’s those design decisions that allow it to be affordable and frankly it’s all you need for daily driving. I’m really impressed by stellantis taking the efficiency approach, not just with this and the 600 but also the updated commercial vans.

@joaomartins6201

6 ай бұрын

@@philrichmond5919 The problem is not when driving. It's when fast charging. It can do 100kw but if the battery is air cooled, the speed of charge will decrease with the battery becoming hotter. The leaf has this problem, you start charging but about 10 to 20 minutes the battery starts to get hot and the speed of charge gets very slow. And if you decide to go away and start driving immediately the speed will be limited. Its a very bad experience if you are doing long distances.

But prices are never converted......... So call it £23.3k! But, obviously, still cheap! I'm guessing there'll be a Pug 106 type version and an Adam type version coming for a couple of thousand more? And, hopefully - as the initial PCP on the Ami was £1.5k upfront then £20/month, therell be one on this for c.3 times this amount!?

@origin178

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, or more... but at least it's finally comparable to a ICE car.

@computerbob06

6 ай бұрын

​@@origin178Don't quite know about ICE comparibility yet? Jack did the usual thing of comparing it to 'better' quality ICE cars. The cheapest ICE C3, is £14k RRP new, so a way off yet!

@origin178

6 ай бұрын

@@computerbob06 But something like the Corsa e starts at £32k. Other manufacturers are going to have to stop being so greedy with competition like this.

@BMWHP2

6 ай бұрын

Lucky for the countries that stayed in the EU then. It will stay €23.500 for the rest of Europe.😁

@stevenjones916

6 ай бұрын

​@@BMWHP2 Not all members of the EU use the Euro as their currency.

Be interesting to know if you get lane assist and assisted Cruise control as standard or not?

my very first car, in 1985, was a golf 2, 55 hp diesel, 3 doors, 3m98 cm. At that time this was a standard family car in Belgium, with many families having the even smaller Peugeot 205 as their only car. no rev counter, no right side mirror, no abs, no electric powered windows, no power steering, no airconditioning, 155r13 wheels, 0-60 about 17 seconds. I did 270 000 kms in 9 years with the little bugger. Maybe scaling back a little bit wouln't hurt. 110 hp and 0-60 in 10 was GTI territory, then.

Let’s face it EV prices are like the first mobile phones that were £3k and a fortune to make a call and people were shouting “ How stupid you can go into a Phone-box or any building and find a phone why would you need this” “it weighs a ton” “You need to charge it” “These are only for the super rich and will never be anything more than that” “Maybe one day there could be one or two mobile phones used for work in a street” “What are you saying every house will have a mobile phone in years to come - don’t be silly” Remind you of anything…….

@geecars6263

6 ай бұрын

Remember too that was £3k then, in todays money its £15k…

@jondonnelly4831

6 ай бұрын

All those things you say where true for the first gens of phones and if phones stayed that way they would never have caught on. Worth watching both Nokia and Blackberry films to see the long hard road the tech went though to get to where we are today. The thing is phones and cars are not directly comparable as investment is much much higher. After your home, your car is an average persons biggest purchase. Lots of people change phone every 2 years and this moves the tech on at FOMO pace. The killer apps and replacement of mp3 player, sat nav, pager, radio. Electric cars don't have one killer app. Mobile phones where the perfect storm of technical development driven by need and wants. I don't need an electric car and only one I want is the 50k Tesla. Electric cars are the slow trickle as most people just don't buy new cars at the same frenetic pace as phones. I am 42 and have never bought a new car and kept a Focus MK1 for 8 years and drive a 10 year Golf GTi, 6 years old and a pleasure to drive. No tech will ever develop as fast as phones have. Battery Energy density improvements are badly needed and batteries and represent a high percentage of electric cars cost. The C3 is not magic. It's the same tech made entry level.

@robinbennett5994

6 ай бұрын

An interesting addition to that is that the thing that made phones so much better was the network of radio towers. Always being near a tower means your phone needs less power, can have more bandwidth and there can be more phones in the same area. Compared to building a network of phone towers, EV charging infrastructure is easy.

@gammaraygem

6 ай бұрын

where´s my flying car?

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

6 ай бұрын

There.

I hope this comes to the US - that's a fantastic price! I'm blown away that it's basically equivalent to a 2023 40kWh Nissan LEAF in terms of specs, but so much cheaper...

@matthewbaynham6286

6 ай бұрын

No, it charges to 80% in 26 minutes which leaves the LEAF standing for another 20 minutes.

@theairstig9164

6 ай бұрын

Makes you wonder why Nissan left the current Leaf AZE1 with a 60KwH passively cooled battery when they could have very easily delivered a 40KwH LFP battery with liquid cooling, a slightly more efficient package and have a runaway sales success. But no. You do you Nissan

I do have a soft spot for quirky Citroens. I had a C3 1.6 auto for four years and it was great - bags of space, quick and handled well, economical and my mum went on to have it for another 5 years before some scrote drove into it while parked and wrote it off. I do hope they do very well with this latest effort - it deserves to succeed.

Sitting in the back like Hightower in the Police Academy movie .. ;-) Anyway, breakthrough car in many ways, price being the most obvious, glad it's got an LFP battery!

You guys have an absolute magic core, that inspires optimism and excitement. Love it

Most important citroën ever... That's a dangerous sentence... In a long while maybe, but they had some pretty important and game-changing cars in the past! Nonetheless, as a 2cv driver looking for a main ev in my life, this may be what I was waiting for!

@The_Observer72

6 ай бұрын

Citroên never have changed the world, and never will.

@mraidymaddful

6 ай бұрын

I would stick with the 2CV for now mate. The charging infrastructure isn't up to par just yet.

@BMWHP2

6 ай бұрын

@@mraidymaddful Maybe not where you live. In the Netherlands there are already over 140.000 public chargers and 5.000 public fast chargers. Not counting the half million people that charge at home.

@rosserobertolli

6 ай бұрын

@@mraidymaddful It's quite ok over here. But my main mode of trainsport is a velomobile so I may get away with charging from my solar 99% of the time. It's just the option to charge at a destination that is lacking from most other small EVs. But the "most important citroen ever" claim isn't met by far sadly, It's almost only the price

& with a free old man driver! 😂😂 the last few seconds....gold

I've said many times that I i only want one car, but something like this would be tempting. Of course, I'd prefer if I could get something to replace my Ford Everest like for like with a full BEV or proper PHEV with a good range for around town where it does spend most of its time. Have been watching the Edison truck content and would love someone to apply similar principles to a 4x4.

It's great to finally have a decent, cheap EV. Looks like something only a mother could love, however. I hope we'll see other Stellantis versions. The platform would make for a great Fiat Panda EV.

@stevenbilclough2563

6 ай бұрын

Panda EV is the same underside

@toyotaprius79

6 ай бұрын

It's not good at all that the Panda will become so overgrown

@Reddsoldier

6 ай бұрын

@@toyotaprius79 I know right? The Panda should be the smallest, cheapest EV in Stellantis' lineup

Definitely a step in the right direction. Certainly reasonable considering other offerings. I really like how the screen isn't used to control the AC. I hope there are options without LED lights as well.

@rinnin

6 ай бұрын

Does it come with AC? 😬

@davidcolin6519

6 ай бұрын

WTF wouldn't you want LED lights? Maybe you're not aware that LEDs last between 10 and 100 times longer than any of the alternatives?

@davidcolin6519

6 ай бұрын

@@rinnin If they're selling it at that price in 8 EU countries, I'd suspect that yes, it does. In fact, that price includes France. There is no way you can sell a car in France these days without AC.

@inthestudy

5 ай бұрын

@@davidcolin6519 More to the point, they use a lot less battery charge...

American here... I was stationed in Holland back in the 80s. My first car there was a bright orange Citroen that had a rusted out floorboard that allowed exhaust fumes to billow into the cabin through and I could always check to see what kind of pavement I was going over, at any time. And the shocks had this weird air suspension that allowed you to raise and lower the car. It was bouncy as hell. Definitely the quirkiest car I've ever owned. They've come a long way since those days.

Hey Jack. Love your work 👍 About time we got a cheap bare bones electric car.

Hurrah, 20k is still a lot but once these hit the used market they'll really start to make a difference. P.S i don't always agree with the FC show but i can't help but feel this is the show that should have taken over from Top Gear when Clarkson, May and thingy trotted off..

Another great episode from Jack. And we're looking for an affordable EV so this could definitely fit the bill ... 😊

I drive a Merc EQB, but this would be a perfect secondary car for work commute and other short drives. I like it!

LFP battery equipped is the trump in its sleeves. It can be charged in a planned trip with supercharging... right??? Although it is good for the city, it may go for a province road trip with no problems.

You could un-SUV that thing and make it a lot cheaper still. Something more 2CV-ish. Yep, B-segment. I know all about the B-segment. I totally know what that means. My mum's always banging on about the B-segment. I bought three B-segments this morning. Pfff, what kind of loser wouldn't be up to speed on the B-segment? The kids at school had no idea about the B-segment. Losers! So much better than the A-segment. I'm saving up for the Z-segment though, yeah, look at me!

I like most things about this car, not least the price and the no-frills attitude. I won't lie though, I would really like to see a Citroën Oli at the dealerships. There were so many things I got excited about with that concept car.

Looks very nice citroen and price reasonable but still how much cheaper is the petrol base model?

Does it come with 3 phase onboard charger?

From the company that brought us the iconic 2CV, and the phenomenallly innovative DS, we shouldn't be surprised that Citroen have done it again.

In what universe this is "cheap" ?

Appreciative nod to your editor for adding running sounds to the Flintstones line 😅

That car is practically shivering with that tankzilla eyeing it up and down @09:12 :D

Still imagine if it was build on an EV platform instead...I actually got a bit chocked when I heard they were gonna make an ice version...

@stevenbilclough2563

6 ай бұрын

Would cost twice as much (like most purpose built evs..)as would then require a different platform that couldn't be shared with other developing market cars.

@mr.magnussen1289

6 ай бұрын

@stevenbilclough2563 but its told that efficiency is so much better when the platform is made for ev. But maybe you're right

@stevenbilclough2563

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.magnussen1289 someone needs to tell EVs...199 miles off 44kwh would put it at around 4.5miles per kWh.. exactly the same as more efficient small battery Id3.

@benrgrogan

6 ай бұрын

​@@stevenbilclough2563Not necessarily, if you have scale, your bespoke EV should be cheaper as it's far less complicated and far more versatile for platform sharing. The problem is - in Europe at least - manufacturers don't yet have the scale to make bespoke EV's cheaply.

@stevenbilclough2563

6 ай бұрын

@@benrgrogan if the platform was designed from the outset as multifuel it's no more complex, you've got an area to put a powertrain. You put your powertrain in that... regardless of which powertrain it is. It's not like you can fit the battery on the roof, and put the motor in a trailer in the rear..the battery needs to be low in the body and have access to cooling, the motor needs to be near an axle. So exactly the same place as an ice powertrain needs to be.

Suggestion: having an overview chart of the stats at the end would be nice. It might not be a long range traveller, but showing the 10-80% charge time would still be interesting to know.

@t3hpwninat0r

6 ай бұрын

being LFP you can do 1-100% charge as often as you like!

@TheJAMF

6 ай бұрын

@@t3hpwninat0r Sure. Not the point though. If you go beyond the max range that day, how long does it take to add 70% (140 miles) range when you charge along the motorway? If it takes half an hour and you can drive in the motorway for 2 hours, a 1:4 time ratio is not great, but okay once in a while.

@romteb

6 ай бұрын

44 kw/h battery, 100kw DC charging, 11kw AC charging, charges from 20% to 80% in 26 minutes on DC, 320km WLTP range, max speed 135km/h, 4.01m length, 1.57m high, 1.79 width, 1.4 tons weight, made in Slovakia

@tmarritt

6 ай бұрын

​@@romtebnice

@SeanHoulihane

6 ай бұрын

Liking those charge stats.

Boy band Jack - 90s look, 2020s humour! Seriously good coverage … and patience :-)

An impressive little car from the introduction you have presented.

This is the best option to replace my Dacia Spring, will give me some extra range, almost same maneuverability in town due to small size, but more power and definitely extra security. Brilliant job Citroen! Was thinking that Chinese EVs will take over EU but it seems that Stelantis found a way to compete with them.

The car is so intelligently designed, this is the Citroën spirit, cars for all in every ranges

I'll believe that price once it's launched in the UK. Look at the Citroen Ami, that was going to be under £5,000 but turned out to be over £8,000 here.

@pauldavey6433

6 ай бұрын

Exactly!! And they are all LHD. Just go to calais & drive one back, then it’s 5k & no parking tickets.🤣.

Looks really like the Olli concept. 👏🏽