Check out our review of the Starfrit Chopper! ➡️ kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5yBrLqMj7C4nMo.html

disagree with review, I have this and it works great! I use it often. I don't use a food processor but use this quick and easy to use chopper. made a great xmas gift for my mom who has a large processor but now uses this way more often. great for single or small family use. 5 out of 5 stars from me!

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Appreciate you watching !! Marc

@JemimaNoel

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same and I’m having the exact same issue. I’m annoyed

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, not a fan of the design of this. Thanks for the comment. Marc

@aztecruler11

2 жыл бұрын

IT'S A OVERPRICE PIECE OF CRAP !!

@StinkyButton

Жыл бұрын

Same

I have one and I'm really happy with it. I use it to make a lot of hummus and pesto with it and it works great for my needs.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for the comment! - J

For safety reasons, I always look at the instructions before using an appliance that could potentially harm you if used incorrectly. So I did that before using this food chopper. I found the directions easy and have had no problems at all with it. I love using this chopper and use it often.

@TheAverageKitchen

23 күн бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

You're hysterical. But stay away from my appliances. 😂

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Thanks for watching. - J

Honestly glad to see a video like this that isn't all prettied up, it feels a lot more honest, and makes me feel a lot better to know that I'm not alone in kind of fumbling around with new stuff.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Haha you're certainly not. Thanks for the great comment! - J

I’ve had this for a year and it chops well, but is a bad design. Sometimes it’s a hassle getting it in perfect position to turn on

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. Thanks for watching. Marc

I really love this machine! Versatility and power. A must have for smoothies.

@TheAverageKitchen

11 ай бұрын

Awesome. Thanks for watching. Marc

you can have the oil in a jug and use the other hand to operate the food processor... yeah it would make sense to prepare and learn how to use it, before making the video, otherwise its an awkward watch

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The premise of the video was from the pov of a first time user, out of the box. The product should be user friendly immediately, not a year from now after fumbling with it. Marc

Kitchenaid deserves this review. A shotgun is easier to use.

@TheAverageKitchen

11 ай бұрын

Haha. Thanks for the support! - J

Glad he showed how to use it. I gave it to my daughter and she could not figure out how to start it. I will inform her of this video. Great help!

@TheAverageKitchen

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching !! Marc

Just used it for the first time myself to make some health bars and it’s brilliant.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Awesome ! Thanks for watching. Marc

You did well to get that far. I have an older version which either struggles to connect or is hard to undo. It seems all the parts have to be aligned just so, in order for it to work.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! We weren't a big fan for sure. - J

I purchased mine 10 years ago, in 2014 and I just figured out how to use it in 2024 with the help of KZread. I’m grinding black pepper and grinding coffee so far…lol

@TheAverageKitchen

5 ай бұрын

Haha. Glad we could help! - J

I too, could not figure out how to get it to work because I didn’t have it locked tightly. So disappointing for KitchenAid. So many better products out there.

@TheAverageKitchen

6 ай бұрын

Agreed! - J

I have this product and I just luv it. Works great and its tasty to use and clean up.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! - J

I have owned 2x of these already. The lid locking mechanism is the WORST! It will work beautifully for the first month or so...life is good, but after your best friend just lets you down; the lid won't lock, you will be wrestling it constantly to get it off or on. It is next to impossible to find a 3.5 cup mini-food processor with a durable design. IF this food processor had a simple latch lid like the large processors have, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for that input! Can't disagree! - J

I own a cheap chopper from walmarts, even it has to be aligned to use it, its a safety feature, not hard to do, so i upgrated bought this one and kitchenaid is a known fantastic brand that speaks quality, and something that last, works well, well built! Love kitchenaid!

@TheAverageKitchen

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and the insight. Marc

I have the same problem getting my cup and lid locked in place am I am very familiar with food processors. I don’t like this one. I be should have brought a Ninja Brand.

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

It's definitely a challenge to use. - J

I love this bumbling. I learn from your bumbling. I don’t like smooth reviews and then try it and it doesn’t work. Great thank you.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

We bumble for the people, love the bumble ! 😂. Thanks so much for watching and the great comment !! Marc.

I just got this thing and I have very hard time to remove the lid . I’m trying now for around 1 hour but still I can’t remove the lid 👀👀👀👀

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

It’s a piece of junk unfortunately. Marc

Lol 😅. His bumbling and fumbling ACTUALLY helped me learn how to use mine. So, thank you Mark ☺️

@TheAverageKitchen

4 ай бұрын

Glad we could help lol. - J

Honestly, I feel the same way as you do about the chopper! It’s a little bit awkward to use but it chops beautifully. I just got it and I’m sitting here trying to figure out how to get the black rim off the lid because I have to be able to clean the lid thoroughly or it’s a no-go for me. Thank u.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and your point of view!! Marc

Biggest issue I have is locking or unlocking the container into place with the electronic base. If you twist it too hard it feels like its gonna break it or something but it needs to be twisted hard to secure into place to chop or unloosened to pour out the batch.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

It's an issue alright! - J

@bbgirl6741

11 ай бұрын

You turn to the right til it clicks press down on lid to start Take off lid move counter clockwise It’s cleaning the lid that’s a pain

@TheAverageKitchen

11 ай бұрын

@bbgirl6741 👍🏼👍🏼

@walterenriquez9443

7 ай бұрын

It's not that hard.

Great review! I'm pleased to see it chops well but the trigger switch is an... interesting choice

@TheAverageKitchen

11 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! And we agree... - J

I'm really glad I watched this video. I bought this chopper to replace my old kitchenaid 3.5 cup chopper that lasted over 10 years. I could tell when I ordered it the locking design would be different. Now I feel like I know what to watch for when it arrives today. I agree that the on/off pulse button is not in a good place. We shall see how much I enjoy or dislike it soon enough.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Glad we could help, let us know how you like it! - J

@kclifton2011

Жыл бұрын

...And here's my update. It finally arrived after a shipping delay. We used it to loosely chop some carrots for a stir fry recipe (we don't do chunks in this house). What we like: The cord storage is much better than my previous one that had to be jammed up inside in a weird triangle shape. The work bowl locks in super well and solid. The blade snaps down nice and solid. We had some uncertainty taking it out (we just had to be less gentle pulling it up) It chopped like a champ! The blades seem to sit a little lower than my old chopper so there wasn't missed food. It was all very evenly chopped. The drizzle basin is better designed than before. Sometimes with my old one, food could splash up and out of the basin. It's very visually appealing - we got the light blue one What we aren't so sure about: The locking of the lid is a little awkward. I can see where people could struggle getting it to line up and lock in The power/pulse button - why there? We don't love it, but not a deal breaker. We definitely do not like the design of the lid for washing purposes. What if food and oil gets up under the black ring of the lid? There is no way to take it fully apart to get underneath to clean it and thoroughly dry it. It's dishwasher safe so maybe that would help? I like to hand wash my appliances normally. That's about it - I give it a 4.5 out of 5. It could go down half a point if the lid gets super gross underneath.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for providing such a detailed update and overview of your thoughts !!! Marc

i love it but there are things i don't like about it. i only really use it for small batch stuff and it's just for me. fits easily to store elsewhere rather than a ginormous food processor that takes too much space. it's also easy to clean, which is what matters most to me, save for the lid but haven't had any mishaps yet. but (!) i do agree that the design is crappy, i think the only problem with it is that it's just annoying to have to align everything, it has to be pushed with a tiny bit of force and feels as if it might break. it's expensive but i'd say to someone else that it's worth it if you need something small and don't mind fidgeting with it.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the awesome comment. Marc

I just bought it and I have to agree it’s a really annoying little thing. I really dislike how finicky it is.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼 ! Most ppl are saying we are crazy ! 🤣🤣. Marc

He is wrong...it’s a great product...

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong opinion? Lol. Thanks for the comment! - J

@daphnemiller6767

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen Nope! You are right.

@papabyrd4289

Жыл бұрын

Is it good for smoothies?

Cheers Cark. Nice, honest, down-to-earth review..........still gonna buy one.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Let us know how you like it! - J

For home/family use : KA 3.5cup For commercial use: KA 7cups..saves a lot of time..

@TheAverageKitchen

2 ай бұрын

Great tip! - J

i have the same issue,,,i noticed you have it as well..when you kept on pressing it down it wouldn't work until you had to twist/turn ( adjust the cup )a bit more...I still love it.....btw my wife and I love your video

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment ! Marc

@pumalogo204

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen from the both us..you're very welcome

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

🤙

I’ve seen several people say it’s finicky and some people said they got tired and sent it back . Lol Thanks for your review

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

I can believe it! - J

I certainly agree with you about the usability factor. I have never liked this chopper and wish I had saved my money.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Finally ! Someone who agrees with us. A lot of comments are positive on this product. I’ve used and reviewed a lot of choppers / food processors. This is the Worst I’ve ever tried. Thanks for watching and the comment. Cheers. Marc.

@daphnemiller6767

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen Yay! I also have lots of other choppers. This one has frustrated the heck out of me. I have watched some helpful videos that I wish I had seen when I bought this contraption. The design is lousy.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha totally !! Marc

@cody102557

10 ай бұрын

you can send me yours, I LOVE MINE and would gladly like a back up

You don’t appear very skilled in operating small kitchen appliances. I have this unit and it works great and is simple to use. Maybe your learning curve will improve

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerg, please send us the link to your perfectly performed KZread video where you expertly show the audience the ease of using this product. I look forward to learning from you. Marc.

@earthmagic1

Жыл бұрын

Wow Gerg as you're such an expert, why did you even watch? Maybe your manners will improve.

@cupidok2768

Жыл бұрын

Does it work chopping meat?

@ManduxH

Жыл бұрын

You may have some undisclosed vested interest on this piece of junk…you shouldn’t need an advanced degree to chop a flippin’ onion…bad design, that’s what it is

@Avegailocampo

Жыл бұрын

The same happens to me And I’m a cooker and baker person

I came to this review to figure out how to take the top off instead of reading the manual

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha awesome. Marc

If you read the manual and follow it exactly what it says this device will work perfect I love mine and it’s very simple to use now piece a cake

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching ! Marc

oh come on it's not that hard to figure out how to put together. We love this food processor!

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Where were you when we needed you? Lol. Thanks for watching. - J

@leeh9520

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen I meant no disrespect it is a little tricky to use at first

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

All good ! Cheers. Marc

@Reba24u

4 ай бұрын

I found it really finicky to use

@TheAverageKitchen

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely challenging.

Great video.. I thinks it.. okay! Somewhat.. too many moves to get something chopped won’t be my complaint if I had to complain.. there are too many drop, cover and press mini choppers to choose over this model.. but it’s KitchenAid

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Marc

I can’t for the life of me turn this on. Looks powerful enough though. Thanks for posting

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Not user friendly at all. The power button sucks ! Marc

You're right. You should have looked at the book before you started. It looks like you are not familiar with food processors and choppers. All these appliances require the bowl and the lid to be seated properly. I have this model, and it works great-better than my old Cuisinart chopper. I recognized the drizzle basin and what it was for immediately.

@TheAverageKitchen

28 күн бұрын

Thanks Nancy !

Found one of these left behind years ago by a former girlfriend. Couldn't get it to work. Thanks Marc for showing me the "Pulse-Switch"!!!

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching ! Marc

I'm one of those don't read the instructions and bumble through the thing people too. Eventually I figure it out.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha love the honesty !! Thanks !! Marc

I can see the worth if you're constantly making small batch prep for dishes, and using the drip lid for mayo or salad dressing. There is a larger model, if you find yourself making double batches, or have larger recipes.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment. Thanks for watching and providing insight. Cheers. Marc

I’m looking for a chopper but also something I can make smoothies with. Would you recommend this for smoothies also?

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

This might be what you're looking for kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6ODp5qHib2bg5s.html

It’s too small of a unit for my liking. Thanks for the video!

@TheAverageKitchen

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching! - J

@TheAverageKitchen

Ай бұрын

?

Totally agree...😢. I suffered trying to align the base...

@TheAverageKitchen

4 ай бұрын

It's a pain! - J

This doesn't seem very user friendly from my perspective. Thanks for this review!

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I wouldn’t buy it. Marc

You show a lot of things first time users might run into. Thanks.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching !! Marc

Don't buy this chopper it a fucking nigh mare to get to work it!! I was fooled too but it will not start if it not perfectly align DON'T BUY IT!!!!

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. You said it all! - J

I am little worried also with the trigger handle because it’s made of plastic. 😢

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

I agree. But for the price, hard to expect more. Thanks for watching. Marc

I’m desperately seeking a good sturdy durable electric mini chop to do parsley, herbs, garlic, ginger, etc individually for two people. I think a good mini chopper should be able to do one meals worth of say garlic, but most mini choppers I’ve seen need a cup of garlic (who would put a cup of chopped garlic in their recipe for two???!!) to work properly to mince garlic. And do dreadful finely chopping parsley etc

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Can’t see that being a problem with this. Marc

The most honest video about the average people.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

We appreciate that! That's what we're going for. Thanks for watching! - J

Definitivamente este señor es torpe, rústico para tratar el choppper o cualquier otro home appliance.

@TheAverageKitchen

8 ай бұрын

👍

I want one of these!!! I will buy it for sure... Sorry, I did not like this review. I think this food processor is great for the price. KitchenAid is to trust

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

All good, this one didn’t want to cooperate! Marc

Read. The. Instructions. :-D Plenty of other reviews online that explains that this product works just fine.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Not. How. I. Roll. 🤣

I got this for free. I bought a red one refurbished and I bought a ink blue stand mixer and wanted it to match and kitchenaid basically told me I can have. $30 saved.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Ok great. Thanks for watching. Marc

Yeah, having to hold that thing down was a deal breaker for me, plenty of other equivalent machines without that. Thanks.

@TheAverageKitchen

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! - J

I just used mine for the first time. I pureed some soap for .aking laundry detergent

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Work well? Marc

Thank you!

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching !! Marc

I watched this because I couldn't get the top off. It did feel like I was going to break it. Don't love but did a goo job in the end.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! - J

helpful video, except lose the heavy metal music, it detracts and is killing the whole kitchen atmosphere

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Will do! - J

Has it grown on you? 🤔

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Nope lol. Thanks for watching. Marc

Great video!

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! Marc

This thing really stressed me out for a sold 5 minutes.

@TheAverageKitchen

Ай бұрын

Lol we hear you! - J

This thing was kind of a pain to figure out right out of the box. Took me about ten minutes of fiddling to get it apart.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

We totally agree. Yet ppl are all over us saying it’s amazing and without flaw ! Thanks for watching and the comment ! Marc

@ohreally...

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen I'm not a stupid person. People come to me to fix things. If they knew that there would be so many compromises to the functionality of the product due to its size, it shouldn't of been made.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Not suggesting you are, I’m quite handy myself, a product like this should be super easy to open, and start using without issue ! Marc

2 negatives. He had to read and had to push the pulse button for it to work. Otherwise not a bad product.

@TheAverageKitchen

19 күн бұрын

Ummmm ok. Thanks for watching

Like you're kitchen bro

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Cheers thanks ! Marc

Use a jug to pour the liquid in, one hand !!! 🤭

@TheAverageKitchen

5 ай бұрын

👍

i just came to see how to start it lol i was too lazy to read manual to be fair i think i threw it away.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Haha sounds like me ! Thanks. Marc

Not pureed very well. Like the ninja one better

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Very much so! - J

Mine don’t have that hole

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Marc

Great little processor!

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

👍🏼👍🏼

Great and powerful machine

@TheAverageKitchen

8 ай бұрын

If you say so! - J

Meh is right. Not worth it. My chopper was US $100.00 in July of 2023. It took me 45 minutes to finally get to chopping. The lid wouldn't come off, watched the first YT tutorial as the booklet didn't make it clear. Then I had trouble opening the bowl up and putting it back together. On to the second YT tutorial. The little "drizzle hole" I couldn't figure out either until I glanced at it from an angle and sure enough there is a tiny hole. The whole design is NOT USER FRIENDLY and certainly not for someone who has arthritic hands. 👎🏻 And the US $100.00 cost was way over what the 50.00 Canadian was. Even 50.00 is not worth it in my opinion.

@TheAverageKitchen

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t keep this in my kitchen if it was free ! Way too frustrating to use. Thanks so much for your feedback and watching. Marc

Aw frick I already bought this pos.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Haha that sucks. Do u like it ? 😬. Thanks for watching. Marc

@vulnikkura

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAverageKitchen I haven't tried it yet because I don't know how to get the lid off. Mine is like fused onto the bowl

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I’d return it !! Marc

I have this product and all the locking mechanisms is the most annoying thing I have ever used. Although its high quality the design itself in terms of usability is HORRIBLE. Threw it away (after I smashed the on/off button from anger one day).

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more ! I hated it. Although we get a lot of ppl who think we are crazy and love it. Thanks for the comment ! Marc

I think you have it figured oat now.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 ай бұрын

Yup we got it eventually. - J

Like I want watch you faffing around with this. Read the instructions and save us the pain.

@TheAverageKitchen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 😉. Cheers. Marc

@gracklepopp

Жыл бұрын

there are plenty of perfectly manicured channels out there if that's what you wanna see

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

100%! - J

Read the manual before you review a product. My opinion is that user is stupid and device functions well

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

My opinion is that your wife must love your happy-go-lucky personality John. - J

@bluewaves9298

Жыл бұрын

Not true

R U SERIOUS??? SOMETHING SO SIMPLE YOU TURNED INTO ** HARD ** AND U LEAVE YOUR THIMB ON WHAT 5 SEC. FOR THE PRICE ITS AMAZING!!! YOUR REVIEWING THE WRONG SHIZ DUDE

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK!! - J

Just two buttons. Still can't get it right. Ever heard of "The Owner's Manual"?

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Owner's what? - J

You are a doll...very charming, humble and funny!

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words ! Marc

Dude, this is the worst small appliance designed ever

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. Total piece of junk. Marc

This review is rough and murderous. Not sure if the machine went to heaven or hell.

@TheAverageKitchen

Ай бұрын

😇

Look before you review.

@TheAverageKitchen

5 ай бұрын

What are we looking at? - J

I have this exact same chopper and “works” exactly as you demonstrated. You have to assemble/disassemble that thing repeatedly and MIGHT eventually work. It is unnecessarily clunky and complicated. I got this as a present and I still feel ripped off…stay away from it…

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

We feel your pain... - J

Do read the manual first before you start doing your demo. It is kinda annoying to see how unskillfull you were while operating the food chopper.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

It's not something that should be that difficult to figure out. Hence our criticism. - J

It’s horrible. A complete waste of money.

@TheAverageKitchen

7 ай бұрын

Agreed! - J

RTFM.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

YOLO

😂😂😂

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

🤙

YOU DIDNT HAVE TO STEAM ANYTHING!! JUST KEPT IT ON PUREE AND KEEP CHOPPING AND IT WOULD TURN TO WALK YOU CALL ( BABY FOOD )

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO YELL! JUST BE CLEAR WITH YOUR COMMENT (WALK YOU CALL?)

good lord , he cant even figure out the lid. this is a great product done by a guy with no clue.

@TheAverageKitchen

10 ай бұрын

Great product? Yikes. It rivals your grammar and punctuation. - J

What a lame review.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

What a lame comment.

In an average Kitchen most would read the instructions. This was an awful review. 😢😢😢

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Not this average kitchen.

Please read the manual before doing a review. Kitchenaid products are the best.

@TheAverageKitchen

11 ай бұрын

Not this one.

My 9 year old niece can operate this better than this guy. Negative review just because he can't figure out how to use it.

@TheAverageKitchen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive comment. I look forward to watching her review video !!

"below average kitchen", read the instructions!

@TheAverageKitchen

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching the below average kitchen.

Watching you set this up was torturous. Do you intentionally act this way?

@TheAverageKitchen

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! - J

Sucks! Absolutely sucks. Stopped working onnme a few months in not to mention its ridiculously stupid tobget tobwork sometimes

@TheAverageKitchen

Ай бұрын

Yup. We also hated it. Marc