Pilot here. Tragic accident. I always tell other pilots I fly with, do not only rely on the pilot monitoring reply when you ask for a specific action to be performed. Is your duty to be the copilot backup and always check that what you ask on a checklist is accomplished accordingly.

@kennethhacker3014

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing us home Safely every day

@MrMudbill

7 ай бұрын

This, I feel, is a big part of why there are two to begin with - being able to cross-check each other for human errors. Obviously there are many important reasons for having 2, but being able to keep each other in check may be one reason that is often overlooked by us casuals.

@francoisthibeaux-brignoles8399

7 ай бұрын

A330 cpt here, I agree %100

@dliang4628

7 ай бұрын

May your exceptional judgment and experience carry you through all flights safely 🙏❤️

@travelwithtony5767

7 ай бұрын

You should stop telling everyone that you’re a pilot or Provide proof that you’re an actual pilot.

The ATR-72 series is a workhorse plane with a good safety record.Its fully able to fly on just 1 engine. Both of these accidents were human error & could've been easily avoided...and yes, there are warnings/alerts when a prop has been " feathered"...

@danpatterson8009

7 ай бұрын

In both of these accidents the pilots did not correctly assess the state of prop pitch, so if there are warnings/indicators, it is fair to ask "are they enough?"

@morrismonet3554

7 ай бұрын

@@danpatterson8009 If your red brake light comes on in your car, indicating a failure of the braking system and you continue driving along until you need to come to a stop, and then crash, was the light enough? I'd say yes, and driver's fault.

@0w3nn

7 ай бұрын

@@morrismonet3554if it was intentional, of course it’s the drivers fault. But if they did not notice it, then that’s the part that needs improvement

@Reducer191

7 ай бұрын

@@morrismonet3554 Uh...if your brakes suddenly fail in the midst of driving, how are you supposed to stop driving safely? The whole point is that a sudden system failure when you're in a fast moving vehicle is *hard* to deal with, period.

@quazz79

7 ай бұрын

as someone who flew the ATR72 for 8 years, yes they are enough @@danpatterson8009

It's genuinely depressing to know a husband and wife died in two different plane cockpits, on the same airline.

@somethingyoudontknow5788

5 ай бұрын

@@swiftbeatrice776so she died 2 times?? 💀

@RoseFBN

5 ай бұрын

​@@swiftbeatrice776Wow that's sexist as fuck. This is why I only date other women, they're much nicer than men.

@Siawash777

5 ай бұрын

@@somethingyoudontknow5788no

@Siawash777

5 ай бұрын

@@swiftbeatrice776they were not in the same flight

@cathiejey8430

5 ай бұрын

wtf ?@@swiftbeatrice776

12:07 - Actually, the person on the ground manages to record some flowers in some pots. Good job, camera man.

@user-wi8nc9wo3x

3 ай бұрын

Oh shit a plane is crashing. Wait, are my petunias budding

@ninethetwotailedfox

3 ай бұрын

camera man got scared, plus the full crash wouldn't have been visible anyways due to buildings blocking the view

@FarukAhmed-fd7cl

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-wi8nc9wo3x it gives me chills seeing how some people can still joke after witnessing something so traumatic

@Shinyarc

2 ай бұрын

“A plane is barreling towards my location, good idea to just stand there and keep filming instead of pointing the camera down for a sec so I can see if I’m in danger”

@Slacker_eepy

Ай бұрын

The fact that a plane crashed and everyone died and the thing you are concerned about is that you couldn’t see it for your own sick mind is beyond me.

Saw the video of the Yeti Airline crash from the one of the passenger POV. The scream and fire at the end haunted me. RIP.

@analyticalhabitrails9857

5 ай бұрын

Link please?

I feel especially bad for that child that lost BOTH parents in TWO different plane crashes. What are the chances?! 😩 And as pilots! Usually the loss of someone close make you wary of the way they died, not enthusiastic to do the same thing. Then to die in a crash as well...just wild. Their poor kid.

I never even realized the propeller blades could change their angle til this crash.

@tauceti8060

7 ай бұрын

Yep,its to reduce drag incase of engine failure

@my-yt-inputs2580

7 ай бұрын

Many propeller driven engines used what is called "constant speed" propellers. Add gas causes an increase in rpm which caused the blades to increase pitch to bring the rpm back down to normal which causes more thrust.

@GraveUypo

7 ай бұрын

even small planes can get these. but they're like 5 times as expensive as fixed pitch propellers, which already cost as much as a car on their own

Same as british midland 092, flight 235 crashed not only because of a problem with 1 of the engines, but the pilot shuts down the wrong engine.

@thelmaviaduct

7 ай бұрын

I went to college with someone whose brother who died in that, he wanted to be an aircraft engineer because of it.

I’m sure I have seen the second video before on this channel. Or I could be wrong. The first crash was clearly down to awful incompetence from the pilot and crew. The second crash also seems very avoidable, hence sadder and more tragic. I’ve also always been instinctively nervous and leery of propeller driven aircraft. I just am.

@rockville34

7 ай бұрын

I thought I did as well.

@echo_soldier

7 ай бұрын

Second video is on the channel from 5 months ago. Unsure why they reuploaded it

@greybeard5774

7 ай бұрын

Yup .. the second one has definitely been here before .. I've seen this too.

@sajjadhusain4146

7 ай бұрын

Good to hear you all confirm my suspicion that I had seen that video before. So, I was right. Also, this isn’t the first time that I’ve seen videos uploaded for a second time, a few months apart.

@LichtL-ni3rl

7 ай бұрын

a lot of videos were being reuploaded. For example I was sure there was a FedEx and Southwest near collision video long ago, turned out it was remade. Guess there are only so many accidents. Which is a good thing.

Two things not included: (I'm no pilot just an observer) A) They, or the pilot instructing, elected last minute not to go straight in, East to West roughly, which was unnecessary and made it more difficult for both as they had to make a downwind(?) path and do a low sharp left 180 to land. This made the instructors vision of the field more difficult (right seated) and added to his monitoring load of the PIC. B) A telling photograph (on JB's channel) in another ATR 72 showed the very low positioning of both the Flaps and Condition levers (and throttles), with the flaps lever virtuallly under the visible left thigh of the wide legged pilot seated on the right. I can accept the brain (certainly mine) automatically converting the feel of the control levers in to how those levers engage and move, forgetting instantly he was reaching for flaps. He was a Captain used to the left seat and had to monitor the PIC, the new approach to a new runway, and allow the PIC to get on with it. I can't aportion blame directly, but they should not have been doing a Captaincy test with a full aircraft to a new airfield and decide on the less used and more difficult reverse route ... after that ... all bets are off - though I would think one of them would recognise the power loss and sound(?) of the engines in time, but IDK for sure. In this particular instance CRM goes out the window because she felt she had to respect the training captains experience of the aircraft and the airport. (this has been said by many on other channels) Goddamn awful tragedy.

@isabellind1292

7 ай бұрын

For someone who speaks only from an observers' point of view, you are very in tune w/aviation because I wouldn't know the first thing about any of it. This is the first time I've ever heard or seen "feathering" the propeller! I think it's an ingenious feature! How sad that a child has been orphaned as a result of losing both parents in two separate piloting incidences. How terrible for all these victims in these crashes, may they RIP.❤🌹

@pomerau

7 ай бұрын

@@isabellind1292 Thank you. Nicely put. I think someone replied on another video that the child would have been around 21 when he lost his mom here; but how terrible to lose your father very young and then your mum in the same way. I wish him (or her) peace and a happy and fulfilled life. His parents were both a great inspiration.

@isabellind1292

7 ай бұрын

@@pomerau Hopefully an experienced pilot will read your comment and offer some additional information. Thank you for your reply.🌺✈

@tracycolvin7789

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely NO NEED to say GD, taking the Good Lord's name in vain! 😔 You must be an atheist or agnostic. If you aren't either, then you should know better!

@sammyjr6989

5 ай бұрын

Way to bail her out simp

When I first heard of the crash I immediately checked with this channel and patiently covered the news for any details. Great work and may those rest in peace. So tragic

A passenger on board was recording at the time of the crash. Truly tragic. May all the souls on board Yeti 691 RIP.

So very sad and tragic that this plane crashed. It was unbelievable as to how fast it went down. May all those who perished, Rest in Peace always 🙏

@salaahsayed616

7 ай бұрын

Yeah imagine the kid 😢. First the dad now the mom.

@user-wi8nc9wo3x

3 ай бұрын

That kid was probably late for school because mom would sit in the driveway revving the engine in neutral while claiming the car has no power.

Just watched Mentour pilot's video about the Trans asia flight... a truly horrific accident

May the victims of TransAsia Airways flight 235 and Yeti Airlines flight 691 RIP. ❤❤

I absolutely enjoy your channel ! … you make the telling of aeronautical errors clear in a non snooze kind of way … thank YOU for all your work …

The TikTok posted by the flight attendant is so humanizing yet so haunting. She's smiling and expressing a happy demeanor, not knowing that her life as well as those of everyone else on board, would be tragically cut short.

R.I.P to all Victims of the Tragic Crash 😥😭

Why aren’t there alarms or some obvious indication when props are feathered? You’d think that would be an important safety feature to have. I’ve seen so many crash videos because of planes not being designed properly and without necessary indicators.

@grmpEqweer

7 ай бұрын

I agree. I do note the issue of pilot overload, where they have too much information in a crisis and freeze? Is also a problem. Engine shutdown is pretty 😳 important, though. There should be an indicator.

@michaelrichter8766

7 ай бұрын

There are. When the props are feathered, master caution lights illuminate in the engine display instrument panel (yellow light), indicating that the AC alternators are not producing electricity (because the prop is not spinning).

@Reducer191

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelrichter8766 Your point is well taken, but an unblinking yellow light that could mean several different things is not exactly a lifesaver in an emergency where seconds matter.

@georgecurious5940

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelrichter8766 Normally you would be right. But the engines were not off, the props were spinning and the alternators were producing electricity.

@michaelrichter8766

7 ай бұрын

@@georgecurious5940 no. The alternators are not the same as a generator. The generators are always spinning and producing direct current (as long as the engine is running). They’re driven by the power section of the engine; not the prop. The reduction gearbox, drives the alternator, ac power, not dc. In this engine, if the prop is spinning less than 70%, all the instruments or equipment associated with some ac busses will lose power, and so the “master caution” (yellow light on the central console panel) will illuminate.

nicely recreated videos, i enjoy your channel a lot and i thank you for all the work you are doing in memory o the people who died in both accidents 🙏🙏

Glad to be watching this AFTER my 11-hour flight today! Brilliantly done as always.

bruh you released this exact same video on march 19th 2020 and on june 9th 2023, respectively. why are you showing the same things again? have you run out of incidents?

@fucker661

7 ай бұрын

Bruh if you don't like it make your own videos.

@steftrando

2 ай бұрын

Who cares bro. I never saw the first one

@df5781

2 ай бұрын

@@steftrandodude is trippin

@pork1346

Ай бұрын

And stick your toy cars kid 🤣

Your work is amazing. I’d have never guessed that I’d be so fascinated about airplanes, it’s definitely your work that brings me here.

This crash is so sad great video tfc

How many of these crashes have we seen that were caused by pilot error in reference to autopilot, auto sensor, auto stick, auto trim, auto throttle, etc?

@jefflebowski918

7 ай бұрын

Most airplane crashes(88%) are caused by pilot error.

@my83roadster4me

7 ай бұрын

I believe this makes two.

so sad. The Yeti airlines crash could have been avoided if the ATR had a ridged stopper for its feather lever something similar to the flap control lever in the 737. This would require a conscious purposeful lift and move for the lever. The captain would have realised he was moving the wrong lever if it refused to move as he expected the flap lever to. Perhaps a design error as well?

Thank you for your work. This is an excellent video.

How very sad both events. It always feels worse to me when it is caused by human/pilot error. Mechanical failures can happen to anyone, anytime. I was surprised 15 people managed to survive the first crash. RIP all souls lost.

Can u do Bek air 2100 or Leicester city helicopter crash cuz i cant find a good vid on themm and ik u will make it a banger

I discovered your channel about a month ago & I'm seriously addicted to it. Your explanations are quite clear even to a non-aviation person like myself. Best of all your simulation images are so crystal up to a point that sometimes I confuse them for real video. Everything about your videos is 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

@zombinosh

7 ай бұрын

It's an addictive channel, glad you found it!

@salaahsayed616

7 ай бұрын

100% agree.

TransAsia was stupidly tragic. I guess with millions upon millions of flight hours being flown commercially, the odds of an event so beyond comprehension will eventually happen. The Yeti crash is no less tragic but at least, the pilots could tell left from right!

When your car breaks down in the middle of the road, you alone bear responsibility for your decisions. But in the case of the pilot and the plane, all passengers will pay the price for his decisions. This video clearly confirms that pilots in general must undergo extensive training programs to deal with emergency situations efficiently.

@BrilliantDesignOnline

7 ай бұрын

The BIG problem is there is plenty of training, but very little experience.

@TheFailedmessiah

7 ай бұрын

It doesn't help that airlines are emphasized on hiring for "diversity" instead of hiring the best of the best regardless of race or gender. So you're gonna get a lot of bad pilots in the air. Unfortunately and this will keep the channel alive and well for years to come

Seems to me both of these crashes generate questions about the man-machine interface. What does the aircraft tell pilots about prop pitch (where it actually is), and how? Do cockpit indicators allow pilots to distinguish between a dead engine and a good engine with a feathered prop? What is the function of the ARM light?

@thegotlandisfarmer8774

7 ай бұрын

Most aircraft do tell you much but during landing you can easily get tunnel vision because the pilot it’s mostly relax because they are almost at ground, this it’s why the first 2 minutes and the last minutes of a flight it’s the most dangerous because this is the time pilot mostly don’t gunna notice problem

Great channel 👍

Very good video.

Best flight channel on KZread!

Beautiful graphics on the intro - really gorgeous.

You had failed to mention that the yeti airlines had someone live streaming and you can see the whole crash fire and all

@kennethhacker3014

7 ай бұрын

Wow

@stevencramsie9172

7 ай бұрын

@@kennethhacker3014 I’ve seen it, a passenger was actually recording during the crash and the phone actually stayed on all the way after to where it’s sitting in the dirt with fire all around it.

Earned a sub

Excellent video and text. Who can explain such lapses of pilot judgment? If it were one pilot alone, impaired by drugs or alcohol, then it's logical. But two pilots?! Bizarre.

Poor passengers. Flight crew from hell.

The facebook live video of the 2nd plane was hard to watch.

Oki my husband dies in a plane crash piloting leaving me and my baby and i decide to become a pilot in order to do what exactly? Orphan my child? Insane. Great videos TFC as always well made@

Can you please cover the Blue Angel crash that killed Captain Jeff Kuss in Smyrna, Tennessee on June 2, 2016. That would be interesting content.

@brookeshaffer4377

7 ай бұрын

I remember that one!

@mauromadrassi3720

7 ай бұрын

​@@brookeshaffer4377FIUTA CRETTE FINE MO AGGHIARIA IA A CA DOLIO TUTTE E COSE CIAO GUAGLIU JEJIE SONGE E NAPOLI CHIU NE SIMME ACCHIU BELLE PARIMME CIAO GUAGLIU ED DOLA 😢

I ❤ your channel

It wouldn't be the first time that pilots shut down the wrong engine.

It is just scary to think about that this could happen on any plane anywhere in the world so not just at Nepal with the Yeti Air ATR 72

Wake up babe, new TFL vid is out ❤️

My God, what senseless tragedies both of these episodes were. How awful. As always, very interesting. Thank you.

Aren't there 'audible alerts' to confirm if something that important was set or changed "?"... (like for example an audible 'FLAPS 30 set' so as to realize if such an action was taken ... Sounds like a "preventable" loss... but of course.. in theory .. after it already happened.

@phreak761

5 ай бұрын

There are no audible alerts, pilots are expected not to make such basic errors by following checklists correctly. Unfortunately, when they don't, shit like this happens.

Hi TFC, i would like to see a video covering Alliance Air flight 7412 in India BTW, great videos 👍👍

Every Thursday i wait for this! You do incredible work and remain neutral instead of blaming the victims, and of course, there are cultural gaps. But i honestly believe, the negligence here, was lack of training and basic good sense skills. It is beyond sad for the families and loved ones of the victims. Thank you Flight Channel for your professionalism. I look forward every week to your videos.

No final report for the second crash?

"Once qualified, she joined Yeti Airlines." BRILLIANT !!

Hey, TheFlightChannel! Can you please recreate Korean Air Flight 631? (prob the 5th time i asked him about ke631)

I’ve heard of the pilot in the second case, very unlucky lady. I hope her kid is ok

I have not flown since 1976. I an Terrified at the thought .

Flu with mannar an ATR training captain explains this accident very well too. Both tragic losses for all concerned, RIP

Wow, no words 😢

Wow what a really difficult situation

Again Uploaded?

@ThiviruthepilotAviation

7 ай бұрын

yeah

In both accidents the pilot feathered the props, you would think they would have a warning. I've flown in the ATR 72, Alaska Airlines use to fly them along the west coast of the US. It's loud and shaky in the cabin, most US carriers stopped flying them.

@craigbosko2229

7 ай бұрын

Alaska airlines still fly's them.I flew one from Wenatchee Washington to Portland Oregon 2 years ago,2021.It's been awhile since I flew on a prop aircraft.

@vernonsmithee792

7 ай бұрын

"loud and shaky in the cabin" Oddly enough, that could be a good description of some flight attendants😆

@uuzd4s

7 ай бұрын

I worked for Alaska Airlines regional carrier, Horizon Airlines, for over two decades as a Mechanic, Maint QC Inspector and Propulsion Shop mechanic. Alaska Air or Horizon Air has NEVER flown the French/Italian made ATR 72, contrary to what you've stated here. There are only 43 active US-registered aircraft that belong to either the ATR 42 or 72 families, divided among six different operators. Most are flying Cargo and None are located on the West Coast. Your entire storyline here is looking pretty Sketch here. Alaska Airlines is currently exclusively Boeing 737's. With their acquisition of Virgin America in 2016, they became owners of a small fleet of Airbus A320's, now all sold off, and they have long since retired their fleet of MD-80's. None of these A/C types are even remotely similar to an ATR 72. Their regional carrier, Horizon Air, did fly somewhat similar designs to the ATR 72, but none were ever even close in either passenger capacity, wing configuration or landing gear locations to the ATR 72. Are you one of those Legacy Media "Aviation Experts" ?, because you sound like one.

@rich_edwards79

7 ай бұрын

I fly on the ATR 72 semi-regularly from Leeds to Dublin (Air Lingus Regional). They are indeed an assault on the senses, a real boneshaker, and I'm not sure I'd want to spend more than a 50-minute hop on one! Regional air travel at its most basic and unglamorous, but it gets me from A to B, which is ultimately its job.

@deepthinker999

7 ай бұрын

@@rich_edwards79 Sounds like the infamous Ryan Air. Did they really take out all of the passenger seats and replace them with leather straps hanging from the ceiling?

Wow thats terrible, Wonder if maybe a voice allert would help? for important sysmtems like flaps and feathering? when u put flaps to 30, a voice should maybe say "Flaps 30" and "Props feathered" or something like that?

Im wondering what the percentage of crashes are caused by human error ?

Oh no

Hi - may I ask what simulator you use for the reconstruction flights? Thanks.

We need cameras on the flight deck.

@paulrelgne2149

7 ай бұрын

Especially on a Commercial plane.

@deepthinker999

7 ай бұрын

They already have them on long haul commercial trucks and the drivers HATE them.

Truly tragic!

I don’t come for the videos. I come for the basement dwelling aces in the comments. Never disappoints…

This is a repeat upload. Damn!

I love that there's people who studied their entire life to create these planes, accounted for so many things and made these incredibly powerful and smart machines, yet the dumbest people fly them. The duality of humanity.

what flight sim do you use

Non Pilot, Maybe the auto feathering system needs a bit more Audio & input response from both pilots,, from the vids I just watched all four pilots had little to no idea what this system was doing or that it was even doing it.

Is this the: "I may have shut off the wrong engine." "BRUH-"

@kcindc5539

7 ай бұрын

Yes

So they activated the thrust reverse on final approach instead of lowering the flaps to landing position am not a pilot but that's my best guess plus the stick shaker 👉🏿😢😢

Please make an video in memory of PIA flight which crashed in Cairo in May 1965.

I flew in one once a Dutch made Fokker,beautifull efficient aircraft,just pray the engines don't stop midair esp whilst in a turning bank angle,seen to many videos of them rolling onto their backs when engines fail or wings are iced up,dropping their noses and going straight in...no survivers!

Isnt this a reupload?

@peasantclips2382

7 ай бұрын

damn right

@ThiviruthepilotAviation

7 ай бұрын

This is actually same thing.@@peasantclips2382

Just head-shaking.....

Seems like I've seen that second story before.

Yeti ATR crash proves how critical it is to cross check. Don't simply assume that the crew member has performed the checklist. Cross check and make sure that everything is being done correctly.

There should be feathered warning alert at least and throttle and flaps lever should be made distinct by atr.

As a function follows form guy, that 2nd plane, the ATR 72 should never have gotten off the drawing board.

thank you for no narration

Can you do a video on a normal flight? Kind of missed those

Yeti 691

I learned to fly planes that you have to pilot, no automatic BS. The twins I flew if an engine failed you pushed everything forward, climbed to a safe altitude, and then made the decision on which engine failed. It was usually obvious as the plane needed tons of rudder to offset the engine imbalance. I don't know the stats on which is safer, I do know the more automated the plane the worse the pilot. These guys sit there for thousands of hours and nothing ever goes wrong, then when it does often times they screw it up.

To make things worse... The Yeti Flight had an On-Board Camera.. Im warning you, its very Heart Breaking

Fatalities 43 Injuries 15 Survivors 15

The decreased engine power and feathering would have been accompanied by significant changes in sound. Very surprised that experienced flight crew wouldn't have noticed this.

@tat2steven810

7 ай бұрын

It also appears on the screen, but both were so preoccupied to land BOTH failed to notice!

Very sad.

So, two levers next to each other. Pull the wrong one upon landing and everyone dies - with no warning system whatsoever. And I'm supposed to be on one of these things thereabouts in 6 months..

Can you do us bangla 211 or Qatar airways 161 for the next air disaster video?

How the pilot monitioring mistook the smaller flap lever (and smaller range of movement) for two much larger levers is beyond me. Certainly wasn't monitoring.............

Why cannot aircraft have a VERBAL audio warning about the exact problem? You can get these for automobiles now but not on even current aircraft?

Tragic, but you made these videos already . . .

Why did they shut down their only working engine.

@Powerranger-le4up

7 ай бұрын

The Captain was suffering from change blindness and reacted before the crew was able to look at the problem.

TheFlightChannel: Did you repost this video? I seem to remember watching this a couple months ago, but it only covered the second crash in this video. I'm almost certain it was yours. No other flight channel matches your quality covering these accidents.

Was this the crash where the guy was on live and then moments later, the plane crashed?

@nickbuis3307

7 ай бұрын

Yes and some thought it was fake

@sushrutdongargaonkar2073

7 ай бұрын

Yes

@JackBoys-tm7oo

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it is😢

@PrateekMaharana

7 ай бұрын

Yes One Indian shooting the video from inside plane

@rxw5520

7 ай бұрын

Yeah and there was fire and shit and somebody moaning on the video.

235 was the (in)famous one that was caught on a dashcam.