Are you unlucky in poker? Also, check out my other video on the one true way to stop bad beats from happening to you: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKaDqqSyftraedI.html

@darrenhadden1037

2 жыл бұрын

I used to win tournaments built a nice bankroll. I practice all these tips and now I can't barely make payouts anymore. Unreal bad beats, coolers, setups. There is no way PokerStars Play money is random. I will stay focused long-term and use tight bankroll management. Can you make a video for play chips poker? Maybe I'm making some mistakes. Thanks 👍😊

@darrenhadden1037

2 жыл бұрын

I will also point out I've played almost 600,000 hands and it's a pattern that keeps happening. So frustrating 😞 another thing I noticed is players play bingo during rebuys. I play very tight aggressive during this period than adjust style according when registration ends. Anyway, a Video for play chips poker would be awesome! Thanks 👍

@mh_golfer

2 жыл бұрын

Feels like it sometimes. In the last week I had quad 9s beat by a straight flush on the river and lost with trips jacks when my opponent caught 88 on the turn and river with his 88 (yes I bet the flop with my top set and he called). I am sure it works out in the long run but man its frustrating.

I never get tired of the "Nathan Tilted At Laptop on Coffee Table" cut-ins. For me, sadly, they're usually the most relatable part of these how-to-dominate-poker vids 😂

The bad luck always seems to be in big hands. Take many small pots, then it all dissapears in one ridiculous maths defying moment.

What tilts me most is when you constantly getting reverse dominated on flop, or just turn/river miracles for villain. My precious evbb/100 gone just like that.

To be fair my luck lately has been incredibly bad. Lost to 2 full houses in a row while having trips, lost to 2 pair on the river with top pair on the board, and lost again to another full house. It's incredible how seemingly bad my luck has been. I needed a video like this.

Well stated, and this is a message that most poker players need to hear... it is one of my most-often used phrases (I'm not a coach but I do play a role as an amateur psychologist to my poker friends haha)... "ADOPT A LONG-TERM VIEWPOINT". Almost every poker player seems to hyper-focus on the short run results ("results-oriented thinking"), which I suppose is just human nature, we all do it, or those that don't do it had to learn how to NOT do it... great advice as always, Nathan, thanks.

Jonathan Little makes the same point REPEATEDLY! Volume cures variance! Well said, Nathan! Ty for practical growth mindset advice as usual !

I came here because I was feeling unlucky and I knew you'd talk some sense into me - which you did! Thanks Nathan :)

Definitely needed to hear this. I shared with my friend. We were just trying to talk about this the other day. You nailed it.

sometimes it's not just bad beat, it's the timing when you want to make a move and the flop came up lock you up from doing anything but to fold especially in multiway pot

The problem for me is I am impatient. Ive gotten better over time playing and have changed a few strategies as of recent. However my biggest issue that I seem to run into as of late is that I’ll get crap cards that just never pair the board or hands that I push on and the board just doesn’t go in my direction. This past venue I was at was basically blinded out and could only win 3 hands

This is something that really affected me earlier in my career. I took a deep dive into why this was happening and learned that many of the "bad beats" were not such bad beats and I learned to minimize the losses. This is when I became profitable. It's not easy to explain but in short identifying the best range for my opponent helped me identify spots where they were calling off with hands that had a lot of equity against my hand. Hands such as combo draws when I had pocket aces felt like bad beats when they got there on the river when in reality the equity was pretty high post flop. My earlier thoughts were to pour money into the pot to try and push the opponent off of the hand all the while building the pot for when they got there leaving me feeling committed to calling off. Since then I've learned so many tricks to getting value from my hand while still being able to get away without getting stacked when they get there. You will still get the true bad beats on occasion and that's part of poker. It's not easy learning how to identify these spots but once you get there it's like a light switch turns on and you see all the things you were missing before.

@gojuryu3

Жыл бұрын

Dude teach me this

@talksomenoise7423

Жыл бұрын

@@gojuryu3 no problem send me a contact.

@TypicalJoker94

Жыл бұрын

@@talksomenoise7423 I would love to hear the tricks you learned to overcome this problem. My problem is that the bad beats suck all of my profit. I make maybe about 20-30% profit over the course of an hour and then one bad beat sucks it all away and leaves me feeling so demotivated. It's a gradual climb to make money but one or two bad hands can undo all of it

Thanks for the encouragement. I've been running bad lately...probably the last 4 or 5 months. I play 2-2 usually because I don't have much of a bank roll. So tonight the max buy in is 200. I'm in for 400 and have less than 100 left in my stack. I patiently grinded it up against guys who lip call raises every hand, so my stack is about 300 now. First guy raises and I call with 10, J of hearts. And the other fishy players call too. I end up flopping the nuts with A K Q board with 1 heart and 2 spades. I'm first to act and make it 20 in a $40 pot. Then the first fish calls and the 2nd fish raises to 75. The original raiser, solid player, ends up folding A K. I shove all in for about 280. First fish folds, then the 2nd fish thinks for about 5 to 10 seconds and says...oh why not. He calls with 3 6 of spades and binks a spade on the river. I was done for the night. Really frustrating. But I'll be back again someday and hopefully I can run better.

@Cefaroks

2 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like that call made sense to me. Post flop, Fish #2 had 36% equity in the hand (9 outs, 2 streets) and he had to bet $225 into a pot of $435 ($40+$20+$20+$75+$280=$435) and with his raise to $75, he only had to put in $225 to call your all-in of $280, for pot odds of 1.9:1 and a "required equity" of 34% according to my pot odds calculator. Since his equity is 36%, not a bad call.

@craigerc713

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cefaroks not saying it's a bad call, just saying that's how bad I'm running.

@OnlineSlotEnthusiasts

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigerc713 Hey dude, hope your back at it with your head high! Those bad beats happen but don’t let it discourage you brotha!

@jmart0426

2 ай бұрын

I feel u but i can’t win a 90%er for the last month. I’m talking one outers

Hi Nathan, good morning. Just wanna ask is it advisable to buy insurance when we're all in and we're leading on the flop? Cause some poker site and live game, they provide for player to buy insurance. Please advise thanks.

I don't comment on too many videos Nathan but I just want to say thank you for your explanation in this particular video :) The quote of illusion and "paying the tax" to the recreational players is such a brilliant perception, when I start to go on tilt in a game or feel as though I suffered a bad beat I will do my best to remember this statement! Legend!

@BlackRain79Poker

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Great stuff! That being said, I keep track of my bad beats vs my lucky hands in my PT4 and it is sad to see that the maths don't align. I am still getting a larger ratio of bad beats. So I decided to quit for a month to reset

@sarahdeshay1394

2 жыл бұрын

I guess you dont get your money in bad, a large enough percentage of the time. If you want to get luckier than your opponents you need to play more hands when you are behind. In short there is a reason they get lucky more than you, they get it in bad more often.

@CTA2AD

6 ай бұрын

I am to ppl always try to say oh you just complain to much I literally have been getting screwed from bad beats all year

I’m not really sure how to calculate luck in poker, but I’d say I’m not lucky or unlucky in general. Although I’ve been running bad for a little bit and yesterday decided to take note of all of my all-ins preflop. I got coolered (lost with more than 65% equity) 11 times, and won 3. So yesterday was pretty unlucky. But I’ve definitely had it the other way too. Last hand of night was a sick cooler set over set QQ vs AA about 10 before the bubble. Tournament variance is fun 🤪. On another bubble I open shoved AKs with 10bb, and lost to A5s. On to the next one. 🤷‍♂️

I've just returned to playing online having taken a 5 year break. Variance or downswing is a fact of poker, keep playing the game that made you a winning player, the worst thing you can do is change. Accepting a downswing is as much part of strategy as anything else we learn. I made a single BR deposit and even thought I'm just coming out of a vicious downswing the BR balance is still x10 greater than the initial deposit I made. Could my game be better? Yes of course it could. Am I a winning player? Yes stats show that, not just for the last 3 months but the long term both as a live and online player. 90% of live players are losing players, we need those players as they pay the 10%, learn to tap the table and say "nice hand" but make notes of the type of cards they play, how they play those hands and exploit the hell out of them next time. Whatever you do don't tap the tank and frighten the fish away!

The whole poker learning boom has been a double edged sword. People have this entitlement bend where they think because they have put in some effort they should be rewarded. I can avoid most bad beats because when a fish raises me on the river i can get fold my top pair.

Making steady income is impossible from poker hence getting a job or freelancing seems a better thing to do to make money. In poker one day I am up a 100$ and next day down 200$ this trend continues for months and all I see is my bankroll is same where I started or sometimes even negative. Hence breakeven after a months grind doesn't do justice to the time spent. Heck it may take years to overcome the lost 200$. Who has so much time in this fast-paced word!

@benjamindisanto5152

3 ай бұрын

Have u ever tried playing low spin and goes mixed with s n goes and tournament play with 1K on your póker bankroll and play 1,2,5, 10 dollars Maximum.. If u play cash high stakes its dangerous!!

Great video, one of the best about downswings I've seen so far. Thank you!

@BlackRain79Poker

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

The problem is they don't play enough for us to get back the big loss to them on that unlucky hand. Yes, they lose in a long run, but we don't play against them every session. So it will take us a while to get that back.

MY ONLY NEMESIS IS, THE POKER SITE I PLAY ON OR THE NATURE OF FORTUNE IN LIVE POKER. NOT ANY PLAYER.

Very good video! I play poker for over 30 years, I’m not pro but had some cash gained over the years. I stoped complaining about bad beats years ago but you have to admit that luck is sometimes decisive. I give you a small example. I play in a weakly friendly game. Last week, in 6 hours I played less than 20% of the hands ( the guys are extremely lag) I had 3 3 times AK and lost. I flopped a set 3 times and only won once. I got pokey aces busted twice and pocket kings twice. And even so I managed to loose small

@bogdanchetreanu4269

2 жыл бұрын

I had 3 times not 33 times AK. Misclick😄

Been playing seriously for a few months now..this is insane, watched a fish get quads twice in a row..nobody believed him the 2nd time so two players with full-houses shoved and lost. And for the first time since the very first session where I lost half my bankroll, I just lost almost all of it in 2 nights... Made 1/2 back and just lost every single big hand in the last hour and down to almost nothing. Picked the fish tables, watched everyone's stats, waited for them to make mistakes, and lost with AA twice to a single-card back door straight, then to K8o two pair, then two separate hands where fish called everything with 32 flush then 47 backdoor flush vs trips. Almost lost it all on trips from flop, then villain reveals full-house and luckily the board pairs again so we tie. Never been this close to having to make another bankroll...makes me want to quit entirely, just wasted money studying courses and my hud. Can't even make the money I invested back after a few months of play.

Can confirm, I play a zero rake home game (micro 0.1/.2, .2/.4) with players who lose 50BB+/100 and 90% VPIP , got unlucky 36 times against just one of these players (150BB+ pots) (the two most obscene were 500BB pot where I had KK over JJ on 644r, and PLO AAQJss vs QJ74r on K26 flop ) in a year and was still break even (~+10BB/100). Adapted my play at the start of this year, and now I'm ~60BB/100 (and not the only massive +BB/xx player at the table)

The problem with me is the really bad luck last 2 weeks in tourneys in cash and different games all same bad luck, from AA vs KK preflop all in in tourney, to flopped straight vs a shoved on flush draw and turns it and flop 2 pair I shoved and turn straight, to flopped AAA turn boat to lose to quads on runner runner. How can I change this?

Hey, good morning. This is great advice. Thank You 🙏

@Apc458

2 жыл бұрын

In which way? All he's advising here is work for rooms even more, keep getting scammed like it supposed to be this way and after comfort yourself that you're still going to be a loser but not as big as the others, like it's even matter.

This Is The BEST!-Video On Poker!-Ever!&Thanks!-Nathan!-You're Videos On POKER!-Helps Me!-To Be A Better Poker Player!&All Of My Successes!-I Owe To You!-Nathan!&THANKS!-You've Helped Me!-To Eliminate!-The Negative!-In Poker!-So I Could Be!-A POSITIVE POKER PLAYER!&A New Man!&Thanks!-Nathan!&Good Luck!-Raymond "Mike" Hong!

It is even easier to forget all the hands when our opponent folds.

i have had my fair share of bad beats or under EV realization. However I’ve always realized no matter whatever happens I still come out ahead. Which alludes to me that is not all about running good with Aces all in pre, or holding with your sets. Etc Also some basic math When you get a bad beat = 1 buy in When you win an all in pot = you get more than 1:1 payout for the most part. So hence, for you to be losing due to bad beats, means you are running really bad, or your running bad in the very biggest pots where your stack has multiple buy ins worth.

i dicsovered during pandemic when i was out off work during lock down and i tryed makin money on poker, best way to make money is not to play it, i still play casually low buy in tournaments or small stake cash games so i dont care if i lose KK vs 33, or 76 off, happend to me in a mid stake cash game i had kk, 400 bbs deep villain called me all the way till river with 33 and spiked a set on a river, he called good 270 or even 300 bbs till river with 33 and jammed the river, so i took a brake and is best decission regarding poker i ever made. best off luck to all off you still hang in in there

I like to get my entire stack in the middle preflop with good (or even just decent) starting hands and I went from 5k GC to 1.1 Million GC. This has happened to me plenty of times, but I trust the math vs those fish. Sometimes it does go the other way too, where I have KQo vs A9s and I draw my lucky king or queen. I have called all in against AA preflop and won from a miracle flush before.

Thank you so much!

@BlackRain79Poker

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

I have been playing better at the micros with these videos, but I'm still not a winning player. Should I wait until I am making a profit to advance to the next stakes, or throw myself to the wolves sooner? Up to a year sounds like forever to wait for my luck to change.

Can you make a video on Double Up Turbo (Double Your Money) SNG strategy??

I just started playing and I've ran real hot and shoved some bluffs through and played pretty damn good made a intimidating reputation at the table but when I have my losing days I try to force things and when I face a huge bet I have people shove me off the best hand I'd say honestly the best advice over anything is when you're not feeling it just get up and go home as bad as you want to play you can't always win

It’s not only bad beats. Cooler after cooler. Set over set, KK vs AA, AK vs AA.

Man you are the God Son of poker. Your simple and sound advice is King. God bless you

Let's say I got more bad beats than lucky win when the chips goes all in. And while it can be frustrating when it happen way too much OR at a very important moment (e.g., final table of a big tourney where you win not much vs the donk who win crazy high). Mathematically and rationally it is a good indicator of my play. I prefer to be 80%+ favorite on most of my all in. ;-) Casino don't always win either in short term, and they seem to do pretty well even in game with 2-5% edge. ;-) I won't put all my emotion aside as it keep me a bit alive vs being a robot. And it is easier for us to say to someone else... but I see a lot of people who complain in short term, receive good wisdom like you gave, and will alter their game, complain, etc. Even as a winner player, this game can be very frustrating at time. ;-) Still: Play well will eventually pay. P.S., Your 100000 hands without a single win sound a big statement that is hard to believe or I did not hear well.

Also, Why is it that when I am a 4-1 favorite when I win I only win $100 but when I lose I lose $400??? The money doesn’t match the odds against the bad players. I need advice with this as well.

Nathan-Your Totally-Right About-This&Thanks!-Raymond "Mike" Hong!&(Nathan-I'll Work-Harder@More Poker Hours&Faster!-Mike!)😎👍!!!!!!!!!

@BlackRain79Poker

3 ай бұрын

You bet!

I'm just glad most of my run bad is small stakes online. Luckily playing live I run pretty pure, not lucky but the odds seem to hold. I play online at global poker and I run insanely horrible, I never get suck outs because I usually don't put it in bad.

Am I the unluckiest??? Cant even start to begin and I'm a winning poker player. I honestly can say after 10 years I loathe and despise poker.

I think a lot of these Poker Players (with their youtube channels) tend to just post their WINNING POKER GAMES....NOT SO MUCH the LOSING GAMES...!!

What happens when you don’t have a big enough bankroll to withstand the bad run? I lost 30,000 over 3 months putting the money in good every time. Playing plo, so yes higher variance. But there is no smaller game, 2-2 is the lowest I don’t play online. The last one that took the remainder of my bankroll I put it in preflop for $2800 with double suited connected aces against kings. I flopped a full house A77, and it ran out King King… I don’t know what to do to counter this.

Yesterday I had the same 3 hands at the same time on all 3 tables of zoom I had up, /Suspicious, and today bad beat after a bad beat, someone today called a massive 3bet into 3 people with 26s, made two pairs, I had aces, the other guy jacks...

as my bankroll is very small then unfortunately I can't so called. play good poker :) :) There have been situations where I have put a larger amount in my account and tried to play profitably but you are looking at your bankroll and it is shrinking and shrinking and I believe that it has not only been a matter of my bad game but all the time of winning either against my ace pair, etc. there was also a time when I lost 72 suits with my strong pair. and now I have decided that I will only play for my own pleasure, although in the meantime there was a great will to make a living with it, but my bankroll did not allow it.

My problem is the locals at the low stakes games don’t give a fuck about strategy their calling range is everything

Yes, so many things not to be given attention in this game... immediate result being one of them.

good msg

Im only unlucky because my game selection sucks. I play alot of turbo and hyper turbo mtts with large fields.

From almost even with allin EV to 50 caves under it after 250k hands here

Well here's my bad beat story set of jacks vs set of 7s all in on the flop and 7 on the river for quads :( hahah guess that's life though

Lower stakes game is the main cause of feeling unlucky. Their is no fold equity. Call everything

HOWEVER, IF MY HANDS HOLD LIKE STATISTICALLY THEY SHOULD, I DOMINATE LIKE IT IS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF PLAYERS.

Idk man. I just lost to 3 1 outers,, all in on the turn KK vs JJ , 4 to a flush AA vs KK , 4 times KK vs QQ 4 to a flush 3 nut flushes vs straight flush, single out for other guy, all in on turn. Several other very strange run outs like 56s vs A7o, board runs out 23456, after all in on the flop, I obviously called because you know. And myriad other all in situations where I lmhad 80% plus equity and got sucked out on. 4 boats over quads, all in ontheturn, opponent binks quads. I know what I did was the correct play, but it does seem weird. Oh yes my favorite AA vs A8o, board ran out to a straight for him.

Thanks to your videos such as this one, I just laugh now when I get a bad beat. Like last night for example… I was in the BB with AJ offsuit. SB is one of those crazy fish and goes all in with 84 offsuit lol. He ended up winning with a pair of 4’s! 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

@qazzaqstan

2 жыл бұрын

Was playing a super low stakes home game. Action went player to my left opens out of turn (a lot of conversation since a lot of reason we are playing as an excuse to hang out so mistakes happen) so I agree to have just limped, 4 players call. I look at QQ and decide to 3-bet the now 6 way pot and choose a large sizing because I'm out of position to most of the table everyone folds but 1 person who decides to spite call with 53o. Naturally they made 2 pair on the turn after all the money was in (65 BB effective stack so it was less than 1 SPR by the flop due to the weird preflop). Nothing to do but laugh and rebuy. Granted much easy to laugh that off than if we were playing for actually decent stakes.

Things don’t “work themself out” when you’re being defrauded

Dont think im the unluckyst poker player, but i do see myself in hands finding out in the end that the winner had no business being in that hand, but somehow hits in the end like really? What are you doing in this hand.

This begs the question regarding the live game. An environment that, in all honesty, plays about the same as a .01/.02 online game. If 100,000 hand downswings happen with some consistency to you online, Blacky, we can't expect much difference in the live game. At 25 hands per hour (good games tend to run slow), we are talking about downswings lasting conceivably up to 4000 hours. Playing 40 hours a week, that's about 2 years of play.

@dylanhom58

2 жыл бұрын

The difference is a good win rate online is 5BB/100, in a live game 10BB/hr is pretty reasonable which is 25BB/100 - 40BB/100, variance decreases the higher our win rate, plus the standard deviation in full ring games is lower than 6Max.

You were right! Math works out. Making FT s and deep runs now. ;) Rigged or not it shouldn't matter. Play your game. Thanks

@darrenhadden1037

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😊

when your 97% chance to win and you keep losing is a bad feeling

I need a T-shirt printed "Check the data"

Of course you’re gonna suggest playing MORE hands when the person suggests there’s a rigged deal.

Its not just bad guys getting lucky , its the fact that i cant fold 94off. Utg in peace without a flop of 994 ! I get snakebit, gunshy and dont know whether to shit or go blind !

Somebody knew how deposit money to play PokerStars

I'm not lucky or unlucky it's even, thing is I take more bad beats bc I never chase the same way and will fold if I'm behind more often,

If you are a two to one favorite after the flop in three straight hands, the math says you will lose at least one

6 months and 50000 hands later I'm still 2000bb below EV. When is this "long term" coming?

@coloursoftherainbow8399

2 жыл бұрын

50000 hands isn't that much especially online where edges are smaller. Also below or above EV doesn't say much it likely won't ever equal both in the short term and long run. If you play 10mil hands you could be 500 buy ins below EV but you would still have won a lot of money if you were a winning player. Just imagine you flipped a coin 1 million times if the split between heads and tails was 49.95 and 50.05 that would be a large difference in terms of the number of heads or tails you would be x amount above and below ev for each outcome but the overall percentage would be close. So a large difference above or below Ev for a huge number of hands can be expected if you look at the win rate for each outcome it actually may not be that much as for the short term it's irrelevant. It's basically a method to gage where your game is likely at in spit of variance but what tools like PT4 and HM3 is still to simplistic to give you really accurate data, nothing out there can gauge your level accurately accounting for variance, because there are too many confounding factors that is just All In Ev.

@TheFairway8

2 жыл бұрын

50000 hands over 6 months is negligible most heavy grinders do 50000 hands an hour

@losyart

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFairway8 Maybe if they playing hundred zoom tables at the same time

@bobbuilder2037

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFairway8 you can 4 table zoom and be lucky to do 1000 hands an hour, your so wrong champ

Yeah "Adopt a long term view of things" and get used to living under a bridge too.

I'm actually super happy of a folds I did yesterday kings full on the flop against quads Jack's, saved tones

i lost 50k from 2 weeks of brutal luck

I'd still rate my luck as a 1/10 even though I'm a winning player. Example : spent yesterday playing Spin&go. All-in EV : +20 buy-ins. Result : lost 20 buy-ins. Classic Pokerstars.

@marksimpson2321

2 жыл бұрын

Lower mentality!

@FefeLeVrai

2 жыл бұрын

What does stating observable facts have to do with mentality? What a nonsensical comment.

@TheFairway8

2 жыл бұрын

Lost 20:buy ins out of 20 what’s your PS name I’ll check you out lol 😂

You have not lost 100000 hands in a row. That is not possible.

No one ran worse than me in 2022

Well having a full time job and a life, I guess I'm condemned to run bad my whole life......

@mathiasbaridon5325

5 ай бұрын

For me only way to adapt is to adapt mathematics, ok I'm gonna play a coin flip, well this means I just have 25% chance winning the pot.....

I would definitely prefer if those guys could pay the price against me sometimes instead of reimbursing themselves...

@mathiasbaridon5325

2 жыл бұрын

I just cracked my aces again just now haha. QTo hitting a 10 on the flop, so I'm thinking well you're still way ahead but everything is falling into place for the bad beat to show up once again, turn blank, river queen... In short, you can say what you want, we are not all equal when it comes to luck

That's so true, people always whine and complain how bad everyone else all the time and not onlu in poker. You play any online team game and people blame the team all the time but actually they play like trash and only remember that once in a while game where a whining dude ruined the match. I've seen this kind of poker streamers cusring fish yet they call all in with J7 the very first tournament hand :D

If you want to get lucky more often than your opponents, then you have to get your money in bad more often.

because poker is all about luck...

Terrible poker players only remember their wins. Good poker players only remember their losses. Great poker players remember neither.

Sometimes you stack them sometimes they stack you

if you feel unlucky, that's because you believe in luck. b/c the only thing that can betray you, is the one you believe in. Conclusion: (by now you supposed to draw conclusion by yourself!).