Why Vince Russo Doesn’t Like Wrestling Anymore
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Former WWE, WCW, & TNA head writer Vince Russo joins Chris to discuss why he isn't a fan of the modern-day wrestling product.
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@TimLoyalToWifeHaterFreeZoneA
11 ай бұрын
Love It CVVCLIPS Bro
There's not enough "on a pole" matches anymore
@jimbo_1312
11 ай бұрын
Bro, I haven't seen a single judy bagwell on a forklift match in over 20 years, bro
@liquidgeorge
11 ай бұрын
Did you not listen to his points? Pro Wrestling has FUNDAMENTALLY changed, which makes it terrible today. Vince Russo had many poor booking choices, but Pro Wrestling was fundamentally recognisable and good back then.
@vishansilva8546
11 ай бұрын
That joke is getting old for real.
@sebasfv5705
11 ай бұрын
@@vishansilva8546 Like the Dave Meltzer on the Tokyo Dome one and I have to read that shit every day
@SquirrelASMR
9 ай бұрын
Seriously though Judy bagwell on a forklift match is historic
Chris' face during this entire interview was hilarious.... the look of "why is this man yelling at me?" Lmao
@pendafen7405
10 ай бұрын
A common response to Vinsanity
The Bloodline story line was better when Sami Zayn was in it
Vince Russo of all people talking about the “fundamentals of wrestling” is hilarious.
@danielburger1775
11 ай бұрын
Only to a dirtsheet mark like you.
@MichaelThomas-ll1hw
11 ай бұрын
He made wrestling better
@bryany4828
10 ай бұрын
nobody is more out of touch than Vince McRape
as much as i hate Vince Russo he’s 100 percent right
Vince is right about the bloodline storyline, its not the greatest thing and yet people say its the best thing ever
@srachar
11 ай бұрын
Huh? It is a great thing, they have managed to mix drama with fighting. And the money talks
@randomstranger5014
11 ай бұрын
@srachar it's not the first time they managed it, if you didn't know professional wrestling is mixing drama into matches. It's just that after a long time they managed to create a long storyline
@srachar
11 ай бұрын
@@randomstranger5014 well, most stories don't evolve, this has had chapters, this can be divided into seasons. Let's take the biggest story of all time in wrestling, well it's just rebel vs boss
@Paugose
11 ай бұрын
The fact it's "simple" doesn't make it weaker, that's the abysmal "muh deep themes" from cinema youtubers.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
11 ай бұрын
That's because people are starved of good material
Wrestling is exactly the same, the problem is social media and wrestling fans are horrible
He never liked wrestling to begin with.
@Richardprior839
11 ай бұрын
He is completely right. It's has always been The Big Characters that drew the casual audience. Moves appear to niche audience
@Mega_Collosas
11 ай бұрын
because he's ashamed of what wrestling has become
@MetalGearPrimus
11 ай бұрын
He’s right, mark.
@MetalGearPrimus
11 ай бұрын
@@Richardprior839I respect you.
@raoufswedek
11 ай бұрын
@@MetalGearPrimus I'm a casual fan thanks for the attack though hope it makes u feel good.
God forbid wrestlers wrestle 😢
@mate2618
11 ай бұрын
It's entertainment first, wrestling second. It's not a sport.
@danielburger1775
11 ай бұрын
Plus, nobody wrestles anymore. They flip and dive, they don't sell.
@xLanzer
10 ай бұрын
@@mate2618... Ok, so?
@robinali6903
9 ай бұрын
That’s not what he meant! You’re being facetious
He’s right. While growing up during the Attitude Era, majority watched because of the storylines and personalities, not the wrestling. Only the hardcore fans care about the wrestling aspect.
@robinali6903
9 ай бұрын
Most of the greats weren’t great wrestlers instead they all had character, charisma and story. Where now it’s just wrestling. You need all three which is why the attitude era was so great.
yeah I havent been interested in WWE (specifically) since 2005. Russo is right... its just not the same anymore.
There’s also a clip of him from this same interview saying all the old wrestling people keep doing the same wrestling and didn’t evolve lmao. He also says what WWE is missing is writers and how HHH and Heyman don’t know what they’re doing lmao. Old school wrestling promotions doing what he’s talking about didn’t have writers.
@daviddalda6856
11 ай бұрын
he is stupid and fake im super happy hes not involved anymore he is not a real fan
@vishansilva8546
11 ай бұрын
He’s right though triple H raw has been unbearable to watch and Paul heyman besides the bloodline stuff that’s it nothing else matters.
Championships Wrestling Ultimately needs. Men 1. World Championship 2. Mid Card Championship 3. Tag Team Championships Women 1. Women's Championship And that is all it needs to boost ratings just like characters and charisma.
Tell me you haven’t watched wrestling in years without telling me…oh wait nevermind
You're a very patient man Chris. Hats off.
Story & characters are important but people nowdays have lil attention span and when they see the crazy clips people usually tune in more
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
With story and characters they would have a lot more of those crazy viral clips and the casual fans would still be watching
@shn3340
11 ай бұрын
@@buddylee5712 Debatable. I'm just saying how it works now
@Filthy-Rat__
10 ай бұрын
Eh imma be real if a match is boring as sin to watch then it won’t matter if the characters are any good
After knowing sports are rigged it basically makes wrestling more interesting 🤣
@ispeedrunthings429
11 ай бұрын
You don’t actually think that sports are rigged
@pendafen7405
10 ай бұрын
@@ispeedrunthings429 try watching any of the Big Six mens' Euro football (soccer) teams and leagues. At the big money level it is rigged, without a doubt.
I like what Russo had to say about time and its value. An obvious point, perhaps, but one that we don't abide by enough as individuals in a society that's set up to siphon and waste out precious minutes in existence.
Bloodline story still going on?
@majedalotebi8994
11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately yes
@thomas3146
11 ай бұрын
Fortunately yes and thats making wwe an all time profit in Everything.
@kelbosskii9769
8 ай бұрын
@@thomas3146they are literally dragging it at this point
I wished in these interviews he would have talked about LA Knight.
@AllHailKingKurt
11 ай бұрын
He doesn’t watch smack down so probably doesn’t know much what is going on with him, at least I hope he doesnt share Nash’s opinion. It’s almost comical, criticize todays wrestlers for doing nothing but flips but then a guy like la knight gets over and criticizes him for not being original and being too much like the old wrestlers lol
@johnnyskinwalker4095
11 ай бұрын
@@AllHailKingKurt Russo only watches Rampage and Raw, literally the worst shows of both AEW and WWE. He misses all the cool shit so he cannot know WTF is going on
Tell us how you really feel Vince 😅.
Russo & Corny completely agree on this point, among others.
Losing Russo as a wrestling viewer doesn’t sound like a major loss, I think the wrestling world can survive without him.
@flashfunk0373
7 ай бұрын
The wrestling world did well and got the highest ratings ever in the late 90s with him.
I thought he NEVER liked wrestling which would explain his booking and writing style
I Ultimately agree. Vince Russo knows wrestling more than anyone on this earth. Characters and Charisma will always surpass garbage workrate.
@PressXToLiam
11 ай бұрын
“Garbage workrate”🤣 bro I don’t care if you’re charismatic as hell if you never have 1 good match then wtf is the point.
@jimbo_1312
11 ай бұрын
Russo knows wrestling? Fuck me you said that without a single ounce of irony.
@machomusprime50
11 ай бұрын
More than anyone on this earth? Stop the 🧢
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
@Zixidous no one said being able to wrestle isnt important but "Workrate" doesn't put asses in seats.
I’m sure he loved the Buffs before Deion Sanders arrived
wWE evolved from just wrestling . Thats y they still in the game and bigger and hotter than ever?
Aew was amazing when it first started x Vince has no idea what he’s talking about 🤣 I’m sure he thought that wwf brawl was genius lmao
@jessehayes8052
11 ай бұрын
AEW still amazing, and the best wrestling promotion in the world rn
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
@@jessehayes8052😂😂😂
@Filthy-Rat__
10 ай бұрын
Vince only made the Brawl for All just to spite JBL for saying “I could beat all y’all in a fistfight” Which is admittedly a rare Russo W
It explains so fucking much that Russo loves and fanboys KISS.
it’s kind of sad that even a Vince Russo interview is more entertaining than wrestling now…
@jcjc4569
11 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Lol
@jgv6323
11 ай бұрын
You're a complete dumbass then
@bluecrasher7710
11 ай бұрын
Have you watched wrestling since 2001? Do you know who LA Knight or the Bloodline are? 5 minutes of them is more entertaining than this clown spewing old man garbage.
I gotta comment here cause there was never a time when wrestling was wrestling the closest it was that i ever seen to what highschool wrestli g was was nwa matches and matches in the 1930s😂
He is literally me
Watch for only one superstar and that’s Rhea Ripley
As a Brit...excuse me, but...baseball games were routinely running to almost 4 hours? That's reaching cricket levels of insanity and tedium. Even a long-running football (soccer) game that goes to extra time & pens is only 2 and half hours long.
I can’t believe I’m about to say this but I can agree with what Russo said about the bloodline being the only major storyline they have going on. Don’t get me wrong I like what’s going on but there’s so many other people in wwe that deserve at least some writing.
Russo still doesn’t know what he’s talking about 🤣 he doesn’t even watch wrestling but somehow he knows what’s going on? Bruh just stop
@Ernster86
11 ай бұрын
He is the most successful pro wrestling writer of all time. He does know what he is talking about.....He has proof. You have none.
It isn't "Wrestling" anymore...it is "PERFORMANCE"now or"wrestling with the Stars"
Why nobody is calling Vince Russo to book their wrestling show. Because he's so out of touch with what today's wrestling fans are into. He killed WCW and almost killed TNA until they had the sense to fire his ass.
@shadesofblack89
11 ай бұрын
@@vpofrentemspoons2278 -Excuse me sire but could you kindly remove your nose from Russo's asshole?
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
The ratings prove Russo is right. Cope harder
@kelbosskii9769
8 ай бұрын
@@buddylee5712russo>>>> HHH
The Vince BRO Russo
Bruno was a character? Hmmk
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the marks in here are so funny wrestling matches are consistently better more then ever but nobody cares about the characters and boring story lines
whats entertaining about the raw main events they always put
I don't get how he keep watch Raw and Rampage instead of Dynamite and Smackdown, the two most inferior shows.
Vince is right. The blood line is actually a mid storyline Storyline bar is low that legit anything mid will be praised as 5 stars
@dudewatchesyt
11 ай бұрын
lets not forget he booked a match with buff bagwell’s mom on a pole😂
@thomas3146
11 ай бұрын
Avg aew mark
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
@@dudewatchesytthat doesn't make anything Russo said incorrect
@kelbosskii9769
8 ай бұрын
@@buddylee5712marks wanna be edgy.
By “fundamentals” he means there’s no more dumb@ss stipulation matches like “___ on a pole” matches, electrified steel cages, reverse Battle Royales😂
Regardless of what you think of Vince Russo, he's actually absolutely right! I consistently stopped watching WWE in 2003 because the writing was beginning to become awful and cringy
@bloodgod8291
11 ай бұрын
🙂
@Filthy-Rat__
10 ай бұрын
Reign of Terror in the early 2000s? Yeah that’s fair. Tho smack down was having bangers during that time. They had good characters AND great matches
The man not long ago said he wished he chose another profession. My man stop the bullshit
He doesn't like wrestling anymore? Good! STOP COMMENTING ON IT, bro
Russo is 100% right. The only reason WWE is quote un quote making the most money it's ever made is because of all these shows now overseas and the move to stadium ppvs while going public and merging with the ufc. I'll always be a lifelong fan, but there isn't a soul on the current roster outside Randy when he returns that can touch any of those ruthless aggression/attitude era guys. It's nowhere near as entertaining as it once was. There's never going to be another Austin, or Taker, Rock, HBK, Cena ever walking through that curtain again. I had friends who never even watched WWF/WWE growing up and they STILL knew who Stone Cold Steve Austin was. Nobody outside of fans know who LA Knight is. WWE even tried The Wrestlemania goes Hollywood angle this year and it was so cringe to see them try to recreate WM21 all over again, because they don't have the star power. Like I said I'll always be a fan, but NOBODY cares about the wrestling, it's always been about the characters and the entertainment.
@solomonaharris1807
6 ай бұрын
100% FAX!!! There wasn’t even 1 thing you’ve said that I’ll disagree with 👍 Well said Lawrence 👏
@MLawrence5789
6 ай бұрын
@@solomonaharris1807 Another point I'll make is that the public perception that the "wrestling" aspect is the best it's ever been, is even a false narrative. Actually watch a match closely now from beginning to end. It's no disrespect to The Seth Rollins and AJ's of the world, but they can't tell a story in the ring let alone have the wrestling psychology anywhere close to a Taker, HBK, HHH, Bret, Kurt, Randy in his prime, Eddie, Jericho. The guys in the business now don't know how to work a match like any of those guys I just mentioned
Vince is right here, everything is messed up at wwe now like the title unification or like double title like dude it use to be raw n smackdown has it own tag team titles but now just Lame with the tag titles n titles that roman has😴
BRO
It’s so boring now
RAW doesn’t do much wrestling so I’m not getting his point. AEW is all wrestling
Bro loyal to Tenacious D 😂
I do agree with the concept that the bar has been lowered to such a degree that it doesn’t take as much to impress anymore. AEW is proof of that. Simultaneously, wrestling as a whole isn’t all bad or some lower standard.
25 seconds
Bro don’t even wrestle to be talking about it’s fundamental lol
What the Hell is he talking about?
@Richardprior839
11 ай бұрын
He is saying Characters draw but fake moves don't which is true
@ahyashrawchaa1310
11 ай бұрын
@@Richardprior839You can tell he grew up only watching Vince McMahon Sr Wrestling. I came up on WWF, NWA and World Class so thankfully I don't have as close minded a view on the different styles out there.
I completely disagree with Vince on this one. I've been watching WWE since 99 and I think story and character are more prominent now than it ever has been.
@liquidgeorge
11 ай бұрын
But not GOOD story and characters.
@thomas3146
11 ай бұрын
@@liquidgeorgero have u ever heard of the bloodline?💀
@batmaneatspizza
11 ай бұрын
Story?
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
The ratings show otherwise
Neither do I. Social media, political agendas and the ever so toxic fanbase ruined.
@OmegaKingRulez
11 ай бұрын
What political agenda
@CSC52698
11 ай бұрын
@@OmegaKingRulez the women's revolution, allowing talents to bring their political movement feelings onto the show, pushing talents because of race movements, etc.
This guy says bro way too damn much like WTF cut it back Vince
How dare the wrestling company and wrestlers focus on the wrestling 🤦♂️
@Mega_Collosas
11 ай бұрын
thats a good focus..but what happened to characters and stories
@kevinlee9929
11 ай бұрын
Most people don't care about random nobodies having a match with no story and no stakes
@Paugose
11 ай бұрын
Wrestling isn't made of only matches, it always revolved around drama, heck, people agreed with that when the imperative was to say how Wyatt was a great wrestler.
Bro
Dude never liked wrestling in the first place... he liked car crash TV masquerading as a wrestling show.
@liquidgeorge
11 ай бұрын
And it was adored…
@jimbo_1312
11 ай бұрын
@@liquidgeorgei never said it wasn't 🤷♂️
For once bro got it half right.i started watching wrestling in the attitude era in 99 and it was the storylines that kept me coming back every week. TK has zero compelling storylines with over the top characters doing infinite flip flops. Yeah there's banger matches over there in aew but tony really needs to build up his people on why they are feuding. Basically most aew shows are a velocity or Sunday night heat
People care about the story lines not 5 star matches
no wonder everyone hates vince
The business passed him up and he can’t take it
“Wrestling matches don’t draw the casual fan” that’s an abysmal take from an abysmal promoter
@Sean-ik4vk
11 ай бұрын
It’s true though….
@NiFeGetsTubey
11 ай бұрын
Thing is, I agree with most of what he said. But that? Yeah that was one that had me scratching my head. I'm not a fan of modern wrestling simply because there's nothing that's organic anymore, outside of things like The Bloodline. WWE and AEW both need to understand you need to let the story marinate and breathe for longer than 2 months. It's so frustrating to watch, and not to mention the amount of rematches that happen...Like, I just seen this match on a PLE, why is it on RAW for free the next night? And AEW...Idk. There's so many times I'm seeing a spot happen that just over complicates the actual match itself. For example, if a guy wants to do a dive, the guys on the outside are just standing there, watching the performer get ready before he actually jumps off. Nothing about either promotion entices me enough to WANT to keep the channel on. I try from time to time but it never works.
@danman1789
11 ай бұрын
it's 100% true. you can't tell someone who doesn't like fake fighting "hey man this fake fight I saw last night, unbelievable". but you can say "hey they had this bad ass bald dude called Stone Cold and he faced off with Mike Tyson".
@buddylee5712
11 ай бұрын
Ratings are down 80% since Russo left WWE. Nuff said
@extremepop324
11 ай бұрын
Its true. The wrestling match draws the wrestling fan. Its the characters and storylines that draws casual fans.
“ I dont watch smack down “ He lost all the credibility to take his Opinion seriously to nill😂
@jessehayes8052
11 ай бұрын
@@vpofrentemspoons2278It's pretty obvious that you don't care about wrestling so why comment?
Yeah right what wrestling fan wants to watch wrestling during the wrestling shows 😂🤦♀️
@danielburger1775
11 ай бұрын
Everyone for decades. The tv show was about promos, and trying to get people to buy tickets for the arena shows. Doing long competitive matches on tv killed wrestling.
What he saying is todays wrestliing is just far fetched non sense
this guy 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
Somebody please stop the podcast
His explanation makes no sense, lmao! It's like he never watched wrestling... 😂
@Richardprior839
11 ай бұрын
It makes all the sense in the world. Characters draw but fake moves don't
@Mega_Collosas
11 ай бұрын
wrestling lacks characters and stars now ...no storylines too .how is he wrong?
@MetalGearPrimus
11 ай бұрын
@@Mega_Collosasmarks like you ruined wrestling.
@kevinlee9929
11 ай бұрын
@@Mega_CollosasHe isn't. People just want to hate him.
@Mega_Collosas
11 ай бұрын
@@kevinlee9929 hate who
I like vince Russo just cuz Jim Cornette absolutely despises him.
Russo was literally a plague 🤣
Wrestling is horrible now
@Mega_Collosas
11 ай бұрын
sadly not hhh or vince can save it at this point....
@BlackenedLiam
11 ай бұрын
@@Mega_Collosas Sadly
I cant believe that Vince Russo was ever a head of creative once let alone was allowed to crash 2 companies into the ground
Wrestling is shit now. Its predictable. Theres no good storytelling. A lof of the workers arent larger than life anymore. Thats why its not fun anymore.
@ashantisamuels6602
10 ай бұрын
Wwe our aew
@ashantisamuels6602
10 ай бұрын
Which one