What do you think sadly happened to them?

@M.A.C.01

Жыл бұрын

Sadly I think the likely possibility is that they ran out of oxygen if they’re still underwater.

@dmmice2344

Жыл бұрын

Money can’t give you your life back

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

The guy who was interviewed about this on the news clearly stated there were mechanical issues with the submarine, even before it was put in water. Apparently it could have exploded already due to a leak? So I’m assuming the chances of it having exploded are high, and if it’s still intact then they will run out of air by Saturday approximately. If they aren’t found and rescued by Saturday then, that’s when it’s safe to conclude that the passengers are officially gone…

@flojotube

Жыл бұрын

I believe the sub just SHUT DOWN... aka LOST POWER / FUNCTIONALITY... I believe the "KNOCKING" sounds (in 30 minute intervals) detected by the buoys is most likely evidence of this... I believe the passengers were stranded and KNEW that an emergency call wouod be made once they didnt makecontact and they alsoknew SOUND would be a primary search & rescue tactic so theyre taki g turns knocking

@joshuaakotia9011

Жыл бұрын

Sadly I think they didn’t get to the titanic sit and lost connection and since no connection the Temperature or something got cut off and sunk to a different site or made it and got stuck somewhere

What’s ironic is the titanic and the submarine both end up in disaster because of a disregard for safety. It’s been 111 years and people didn’t get the importance for safety.

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking about! The Titanic got its name because they believed it was unsinkable. Now a submarine was built to travel down to the Titanic wreckage and it was named the Titan? It’s tragically ironic.

@Christrulesall2

Жыл бұрын

The hubris of humans.

@tigerlily1118

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like rich people don't change even a hundred or hundreds or thousands of years later.

@automnejoy5308

Жыл бұрын

Each generation thinks it has conquered the "dangers of the past" with "state of the art" innovation or technology. This attitude never fails from one generation to the next, despite each and every generation facing disastrous consequences when they are proven wrong.

@SethMacLeod95

Жыл бұрын

History repeats itself. “Nothing new under the sun”

Not only would I NOT PAY $250,000 to take this underwater excursion, I also would not do this if somebody PAID ME $250,000 to do it. Insanity!

@davehooper5115

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree, Its unthinkable

@flaziblaz

Жыл бұрын

exactly!!

@leehighland5435

Жыл бұрын

How much would you do it for then?

@YohielSpeaks

Жыл бұрын

I'm a cheap date,@@leehighland5435, probably $2 million if all inspections, certifications and approvals were in order with a rigorous history of successful, previously logged dives!

@JohnBrown-vn2qw

Жыл бұрын

@@leehighland5435 lol money no good if you dead

My honest take is that wealthy people dont know how harsh life really is. Everything is made comfortable and discomfort hid from them. They think in abstracts instead of cold hard reality.

@keropppi

Жыл бұрын

Really good point^^

@loveistheanswer5924

Жыл бұрын

Even some poor people would like to visit the titanic. So why shouldn't rich people want that? Also money alone makes nobody truly happy! There are a lot of rich people that have depression and a lot of other normal problems like marriage problems and so on. You can't buy anything with money.

@its9333

Жыл бұрын

@@loveistheanswer5924want whatever you like, but don’t ignore the reality of the risks and probability surrounding it

@michaelinhouston9086

Жыл бұрын

I know some incredibly wealthy people that spend most of their time doing good - volunteering at hospitals, managing charities, etc. On the other hand, I know people that are exactly what you describe - that "you can have whatever you want" attitude leads them to believe they can get whatever they want with no consequences.

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelinhouston9086 Some of these people could have done good things for others. We should not judge based on their wealth!

The irony of going to see a tragedy and becoming a trgedy yourself is not lost on me.

@oliversmith9200

Жыл бұрын

Future tours will have two boats to visit...

@NormaLilia24

Жыл бұрын

@@oliversmith9200pretty sure they will retrieve the sub if found to deliver the bodies to their respective families, for mass, burials and what not

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

They had a death wish, I suspect. Jack Dawson syndrome.

@bepitan

Жыл бұрын

it did flit across my mind that if they were found that this might all be a stunt ...it just sounded too much like a cheesy hollywood script....sadly this seems not to be the case.

@rosiemason-rk4cm

Жыл бұрын

@@bepitan Yup - I also thought it was just to get a massive book/film deal.

You couldn’t pay me a billion dollars to crawl into that thing and take it to the bottom of a lake, let alone thousands of feet to the bottom of the ocean. It was a self deletion journey from the beginning

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@elainecongo3827

Жыл бұрын

YEAH SAD IT WAS A DEATH TRAP...IT HAD TOO MANY FLAWS...IT'S SAD THIS GUY WOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THE EXPERTS...THAT'S CRAZY

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

you are correct

@RawOlympia

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had a MRI today and that was plenty enough for me

@jamesmcguinness6195

Жыл бұрын

Tbf if they paid me 250,000 to take a few photos i definitely would of an still would go down if paid too, the thing was down a few times before, plenty planes have crashed, but you aren't saying you wouldn't fly again.

Somebody posted on Facebook earlier about this entire situation earlier, and one comment really caught my attention. The commented said “The Titanic location is a burial ground, a grave for so many, it’s not a tourist attraction” and that really was something I hadn’t thought about.

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

There is no bodies at the bottom of the sea, so therefore it's not a graveyard. This is just like driving by a car wreck gawking at the accident scene.

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, history still tends to repeat itself. Such a tragedy.

@mozartsbumbumsrus7750

Жыл бұрын

It was/is creepy just visiting Forest Lawn cemetery in Los Angeles.

@abelis644

Жыл бұрын

​@@garybregel4606 You are wrong. The bodies of many Titanic passengers are likely still inside the ship, in cabins and other areas where no currents would have been able to disturb them. This is according to experts who study death at depth. When you don't know something don't embarrass yourself trying to show off.

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

@@abelis644 I don't care what you said. Bodies that were in the Titanic when it went down, if they were in a air tight room, they would have experience the fate of the Titan sub. The microorganisms that live on the bottom of the sea would have consumed all the bodies bones an all. Don't be stupid.

The only person who has done due diligence on the safety of this submersible tinker toy is Derek Van Schaik. Note: He didn't go.

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

Derek is one of the best Monday-Morning Quarterbacks on any disaster, I suspect.

@gratefulguy4130

Жыл бұрын

Captain Hindsight has also rated this trip a bad idea! Seriously though I'm pretty sure Derek or just about any of us would have seen the problems.

@saucejohnson9862

Жыл бұрын

James Cameron.

The depth of the ocean is a dark and scary place. Why would anyone wanna go on a "thrill seek" tourist experience is unimaginable

@craigfinnegan8534

Жыл бұрын

Unconscious desire to return to the womb?

@fsociety6983

Жыл бұрын

Everything thrilling is at least a little bit dangerous. You can’t live your entire life without taking risks

@___DJ__

Жыл бұрын

@@fsociety6983 - You can, however, take risks without risking your life.

@user-wq8fp4zn9b

Жыл бұрын

( #THRILL #LEAK ) I REPEAT ( #THRILL #LEAK )

@StephenDoty84

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a girl from my college went on a SCUBA trip after graduation to the Galapagos Islands, seeing what Darwin saw, etc. A few minutes into the first dive to the island from a boat, she couldn't fight the current, panicked, lost her air hose, and was found hours later dead on the ocean floor. Her lawyer said she wasn't experienced enough for that dive, as her guide/instructors should have known. I think they reached a settlement.

The best is how the CEO refers to the paying tourists as “mission specialists“

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

LMAO, it worked!!! 🤔

Simply, Hubris. A confident guy who knew a lot less than he thought. Another guy with a plan who got smashed in the face.

@lucast3006

Жыл бұрын

That guy is absolutely nauseating to listen to. His pride got in the way of his ability to think logically and clearly.

@crankyyankee7290

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he "fooled around, and is finding out)..

@fx-studio

Жыл бұрын

Obvious Pathological Narcissist with an inexperienced team of woke designers. What could possibly go wrong?

@fsociety6983

Жыл бұрын

@@fx-studio Why pretend you know psychology? Why pretend woke had anything to do with this?

@megamond

Жыл бұрын

@@fx-studio In spades - seemed to have a death wish.

“Pride comes before the fall” as the Bible says. And they took a 19 year old with them on this. The kid is what saddens me the most.

@austin2245psn

Жыл бұрын

Like lgbt comes before our society’s fall apart

@drdassler

Жыл бұрын

That's not what the bible says though, is it? 🤦🏻‍♂️

@dodgingbullets3503

Жыл бұрын

🪔I agree...rest his soul, too young to die. Plexiglass??? wth

@Kayrunningandcoffeeaddict

Жыл бұрын

I know…that part bothers me the most - too.

@rene9377

Жыл бұрын

@@drdassler the Bible says that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

They painted that sub the wrong color if it ever became necessary to spot it from the air.

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

Should’ve been yellow and have light reflective stripes.

@John-Doe-Yo

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t even consider that

@SlurringNeon

Жыл бұрын

True. So many dim witted oversights with the whole thing

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

I lost a drone once. I thought it looked awesome in its desert camo motif. Once I had to start looking for it I found out what a mistake it was for it to be camo.

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

Remember, the CEO did not want experienced "old" 50 year old White Men on the crew~DEI kills!

The fact that the submersible only has a small window and a couple of computer monitor’s makes the trip even more pointless..

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Why would I pay $250 thousand dollars to go down to see the Titanic. And then watch it on a flat screen in a small submarine. That makes no sense.

The port hole was tested for a maximum depth of 1500 meters. They went to nearly 4000 meters with it multiple times. The pressure vessel was never tested.

Clearly they have more money than sense.

It's so hard to accept that this is really happening. The whole story is just unbelievable.

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

my same thoughts.

@___DJ__

Жыл бұрын

It may not be believable but it should DEFINITELY be teachable.

@ronmailloux8655

Жыл бұрын

risk is one thing but huberous is another.

@cardboardboxification

Жыл бұрын

that thing should have had 2 or 3 redundancy on everything , they are all alone just like a jet at 40,000

@killingtime8612

Жыл бұрын

It’s completely believable, didn’t you watch the video?

5 possible things could go wrong. I'm guessing all 5. The sub was a death trap RIP

They probably thought that there would be some warnings if the sub was going to fail. Like in the movies. And they would have time to go back up. But sadly, I think they greatly underestimated what they had gotten themselves into.

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, hope they didn't know it was coming and went before they knew it.

I think of the titanic site as a literal graveyard. Ive got absolutely no desire to go down that deep in the ocean and risk my very existence to see a graveyard, personally. Also, its really not even worth it because you can see so much more of what remains of the ship at home than you even can down there. Its so crazy and i feel horribly for those people.

@rene9377

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you.

@Katoshi_Takagumi

Жыл бұрын

Why not? I sometimes went for a walk with my grandfather at the local cemetery. True, it took a considerably less effort than going down all the way to visit the Titanic.

billionaires themselves speaking w/an UNREAL confidence that seems detached from reality.. creepy& tragic & sad. RIP

Bottom line....just because you can, doesn't mean you should.😢

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!🙄

@HalfCracker4life

Жыл бұрын

They said the same thing in Jurrasic Park

It is now clear that the submersible Titan imploded. I couldn't understand why these people chose to do this. The ability of the tourist sub’s hull design to withstand such depths was questioned in a 2018 lawsuit filed by OceanGate’s former director of marine operations, David Lochridge, who said he was fired after he raised safety concerns about the vessel. The same happened when Alexander Carlysle, a designer at Harland and Wolf, raised concerns about the inadequate number of lifeboats on Titanic. His concerns were ignored and he resigned. I read that their means of communication was a play station. I don't think that naming this submersible Titan was a very good idea - it is 2 letters short of the name Titanic. When that guy said the Titan was pretty much invulnerable the other guy said that is pretty much what they said about Titanic. How prophetic.

@PaquiPaqui73

Жыл бұрын

My point exactly. You don't have to be superstitious to dislike the name of the submarine. Incredible bad taste.

@TamaraGKing

Жыл бұрын

And it turns out titan is the name of a book which come out 20 years before titanic sailed. That book was like a prophecy for titanic. The unsinkable boat (titan) hits an iceberg and sinks in the same waters! It's crazy!

@susangavaghan

Жыл бұрын

@@TamaraGKing Yes, the book was entitled 'The Wreck Of The Titan' and predicted the Titanic disaster. The man who wrote it saw it happen in a dream. I read that someone actually placed a copy of this book on the Titanic as a joke.

I think this shows that in our culture we have been trained to think that things that are expensive are good. It’s the same thing as a Gucci belt or some dumb shit. They price it incredibly high and we instantly think oh it must be worth a lot of money! These divers fell for the same scam.

I think I would at least want the ability to plug a wire into the controller, even if it had Bluetooth also. I also think they are/were people that didn't suffer from any forms of everyday anxiety on a daily basis (unlike me) as I probably would have taken one look at that contraption and said "no way am I going in that! A very unfortunate situation all in all :(

It’s my sincere belief that people who’ve been very rich for a very long time have simply lost the ability to reliably risk assess. They’re used to making every problem or stressor go away by throwing money at it to the point they think even death can’t touch them.

@agoo7581

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense, they are so removed from any consequences of their actions that they think that nothing bad can happen to them. Fortunately, nature doesn't favor class.

@k.avilla8061

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. If they hadn't been rich, they wouldn't have been able to afford this, and they would still be ALIVE.

@rene9377

Жыл бұрын

That’s a valid point, however In hindsight perhaps Stockton Rush should have thrown a bit more than $29.99 into the main controller.

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Well, it's a personality disorder, they have no ability to put themselves in another's shoes. They're narcissists. They do not take constructive criticism, believe they are always right and never admit to anything even resembling a mistake. Narcissists are on the radar more these days because of all the billionaires and immoral politicians. Scary.

The owner is a total carefree conman in my eyes and they were doomed from the beginning. I bet they had no 100% mechanical safety system to drop the weights and no stress crack testing.

@JezaGaia

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say he was a conman, after all he was in the sub himself. He was a fool who believed what he said.

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Not enough testing, for sure. But, I think I read they did have a mechanism to deal with dropping the weights.

I think the best thing that could have happened to them, assuming they don't get rescued, is that the sub imploded. It would have been the quickest way, without all the panicking and fear and knowing what doom imminently awaited them. So I'll choose to believe that's what happened until it is proven otherwise.

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@v8pilot

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadGlassify Yes. At two tons per square inch they'd have been crushed like a frog on a railroad track. Instantaneous.

@v8pilot

Жыл бұрын

@PersisP I don't think it would be much fun sitting in the dark (presumably) discussing how many hours we have left. If there were a pinhole leak, the jet of water (at 2 tons/sq inch) would cut though you if you got in its way. It might take a while to fill the sub all the same. But a large crack or collapse of the shell, it would be over in a millisecond.

@louisavondart9178

Жыл бұрын

..it did. Splat. End of.

I cant get over the fact they were allowed to send down an untested and uncertified experimental sub down to any depth untethered with no contingency plans or failsafes or location transponders or emergency equipment of any kind and allow paying passengers to go along, truly mind boggling arrogance. A completely avoidable catastrophe.

@CartoonForFood

Жыл бұрын

What regulating body would be responsible for the middle of the ocean? You can’t regulate stupid!

@drdassler

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@agak9974

Жыл бұрын

Narcissistic CEO. Just listen how he talks

@Black.Sabbath

Жыл бұрын

It had five ways of going back to the top.

The Titanic claiming yet more souls from the rich and wealthy.

It's very symbolic that a bunch of guys always reaching for success or for something lost in the past end up dying in something that's completely dependent on the outside world (the sub can only be opened from the outside) while being completely cut off from the outside world. They died as they lived.

@dan_rad

Жыл бұрын

And a 19 year old kid.

@agoo7581

Жыл бұрын

@@dan_rad hes a trust fund kid who bought the bullshit from his wealthy father. He enjoyed the money that his family accumulated by harming other people, I don't have much more sympathy for him.

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

well said

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

It was Shroedenger's sub the moment communication was lost. And yet they waited 12 hours before making the call.

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

@@dan_rad Poor kid!

My feeling is it imploded before it reached the Titanic and all killed instantly and probably will never be found.

not gonna lie, that backdrop you have going looks clean but it also looks like a parody of what you'd think a psychologists house looks like

@blydnhvghn

Жыл бұрын

Lol true!

No transponder or location beacon, no redundant systems, no manual override of the wireless system, extremely cramped for 5 people, thrown together design/incompatible materials, carbon fiber red flag, ie, experimental hull design---i would never go inside this to any depth. I can't believe anyone would trust this.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

Maybe in a lake with a tether. But certainly not anywhere in the ocean where a rogue current could carry it all the way out to only god knows where…

@GlennDuke-yc5ky

4 күн бұрын

Stockton was a salesman, the curse of the rich.

So if the controller failed the were screwed. Wonder which version of Bluetooth it had...older version can randomly fail. But after he said that plexiglass window would flex abd the company stated it wasnt rated for that depth...they definitely imploded. They've had successful tours before. They probably needed to replace that viewing window after ever dive but didnt know it would fail after a few dives. You know...from the flexing which was obviously weakening it over time.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

Yup. They probably didn’t stress test it enough. They maybe conducted a few over-pressurized tests and assumed because it exceeded their tests once, it would be fine at less pressure every time, but didn’t account for fatigue. But, I just can’t fathom that the WIRELESS controller was the ONLY means of control. Redundancy is built into virtually every system, particularly systems that manage human life. You’d think they’d at least maybe one of those monitors is touch and they’d have like a backup GUI option or something…

The controller is not a problem they have many to spare inside, plus when they are going down they are just free falling, they only need the controller when they are at the bottom. They lost communication half way down the trip, which means the thing most likely imploded. Crushing them in a fraction of a second.

@rogerhorton3007

Жыл бұрын

And the controller was literally a Sony PlayStation joystick as were all the spares.

Yet another example of a charismatic guy full of his own farts being all cocky and confident with a scam-gone-wrong.

It seems likely that when the surface lost contact with them at like an hour and 45 minutes into the descent the submersible probably did implode. It's fitting that they were intent on seeing the remnants of a terrible maritime disaster only to become one themselves.

Instant death by imploding from pressure is, unfortunately, probably the best outcome for what happened to them. The other outcome is that they're crammed into this tiny, claustrophobic sub, as their air slowly disappears, while they hope and pray for rescue that is _extremely_ unlikely to come in time. I know which death I'd prefer!

@loveistheanswer5924

Жыл бұрын

Imagine they are still down there full of fear... That would be unimaginable painful! I would say mortal fear is the second worst pain there is! Right after losing someone that you really love (due to death) ! So I also don't wanna know how the mother of the child must feel! 💔😪

They thought they were going to go and see the wreck of the Titanic. They never considered that they would join the wreckage permanently and become one of the people there. The similarities between the two tragedies are glaring. A lack of foresight and overconfidence in their abilities!

I think the battery in the controller died, no one thought of bringing a spare, and there was no way to plug it in so they lost control and plummeted straight down

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I think that the battery system powering the lights and heat, everything, failed, too. They had these issues on a prior mission but the sub never went down; it just floated on the surface for hours.

@NormaLilia24

Жыл бұрын

The ceo said in an interview that they put a couple of back up controllers in the sub for just in case

@NormaLilia24

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadGlassifysay if that happened, everything shut off.. the sub automatically drops a sadbag weight from the outside after 8 or 9 hrs which is suppose to make the sub float all the way to the top … they should’ve been spotted if floated to the top via sonar and found relatively quicker but nope … my guess is that it imploded after loosing signal .. they weren’t even at the bottom of the ocean when the signal was lost…

@gratefulguy4130

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if something like that happened. Or if someone panicked & broke it.. I didn't know there were backups but maybe they couldn't get another to connect. They can be fiddly.

Sadly, I think it's over. To lose communication after one hour and forty-five minutes there was probably a leak and it exploded.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

Imploded

I honestly think they died, a horrible death.Maybe they got stuck and couldn’t move.The banging noise could be the submarine thing ,banging into something.I hope I’m wrong.

@roringusanda2837

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that banging didn't sound like ppl knocking in a recognizable signal, it just sounded like...well, something banging around.

I think your analysis is correct about fatigue. Rich people just finding ways to feel good about themselves. I do hope they are found safe.

@baobo67

Жыл бұрын

Yep and some self mades are on a guilt trip.

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

@@baobo67 Except for the 19 year old son! Horrible, that man brought his kid along to perish.

@baobo67

Жыл бұрын

@@zazaaziella16 Quiet right Zaz. Putting oneself in danger is one thing but taking "an inocent" (for want of a better expression) with you is unforgivable. When my three children were young I constanly worried about what would happen to them if something happened to me or their mother. Nothing special about me, every responsable parent thinks that way.Anyway enough from me. Cheers.

@ronm7114

Жыл бұрын

having a lot of money takes away quite some fun and fulfullment actually. U also seperate quite a bit from the people who still need to make ends meet. Also never having enough money comes into play. Because u not only want a house, also a yacht. And then maintenance costs, taxes etc. So u start thinkin, u know what i need a real big buffer. Instead of "just" a couple million, i want to reach a billion. That way im truly free.

@fsociety6983

Жыл бұрын

@@baobo67 Lol, taking your adult son on a risky but presumably exciting endeavour is not unforgivable, or harming an innocent. Do you really have such a child’s view of morality?

I think they're gone. Possibly never to be found. Next we need to research those rich guys on board & check out their connections & background to see if this was an assassin-ination of some sort.

@davehooper5115

Жыл бұрын

good point

Imagine the disasters when companies start doing space tours for money

Two and a half miles below the surface of the ocean, total and utter insanity. This, no matter what the outcome, should serve as a massive cautionary tale and let only experts dive down to the wreckage!

The sea is dark. Deep. And full of terrors.

I hope this is actually a huge prank- one button in a vessel that dives to the bottom of the sea?! No bathroom and no lights makes me hope they were crushed instantly. The family's probably begged them not to go.. 😢

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

I had a friend propose it could be a ruse to fake their deaths. It could be an ideal scenario given it’s not out of the realm of possibility that a tiny submersible, that’s had a history of issues, could totally disappear without a trace in the vast ocean. I don’t know if I necessarily believe it, but the amount of money in that little submersible definitely had the kind of money needed to pull something like that off…

@loveistheanswer5924

Жыл бұрын

​@@RandomBogeyTheir faces are in the news and across the whole internet. If that would be true it would come out really quickly. Why would a billionaire and a son and a father fake this? That just don't makes any sense. There is a saying: the most simple and obvious explanation is most often the truth! 🙂

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

How could that man bring his 19 year old kid into that death trap?

@MrEvilTurkey

Жыл бұрын

Bathroom!! Sweet Jesus, I never even thought about that 🥴

@rogerhorton3007

Жыл бұрын

@@zazaaziella16 what’s worse a family member said that the 19 year old son was terrified to do this but his father wanted him to go with him so he went . That terrible.

Jesus Christ! I didn't even know about all this going on.... Just looking at the sub from an engineering standpoint at this video shows how completely ill-prepared they are. I wouldn't trust that thing to go even below just the surface!!!

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

I cant believe anyone would think a carbon fiber sub was a good idea. Did it have a screen door as well?

Death is the biggest kick of all. They got their money's 💰 worth

@Inertia888

Жыл бұрын

It seems like it would be a miracle to find them alive at this point. I am hoping that they are found, and rescued, but it does not seem likely. If they died, I hope it was very quick. I cannot imagine how horrible a death it would be, to slowly starve of oxygen and warmth, over a period of a few days. Even the first 24hours, with no light, at all, nothing but the sounds of the others, who are with you, slowly losing hope, it would probably feel like a week. I have been locked in a cell for a few days, and I knew that I was eventually going to be let out. Even that experience made one day feel like three. And being locked in a cell, was a vacation, compared to what they must be going through, psychologically.

@loveistheanswer5924

Жыл бұрын

Please tell me that this was just a bad joke! 😪

Unbelievable how idiotic and Vane some ppl can be!!

What annoys me about people like this, is they want to "take risks for kicks", then expect the real Men and Women, of emergency services, rescue and military to unnecesarily have to risk their lives, to save rich wannabees.....It's also a mass grave, and should be shown much more respect!

What does it tell you about Ocean Gate that they could develop the technology to explore the Titanic wreck at that depth but didn't bother to develop the technology for escape features *from* that depth? Perhaps an unconscious desire to return to that idealized earlier era in history and never return from it?

@fsociety6983

Жыл бұрын

Probably because there are no escape features from that depth

I told my husband the exact same thing...that it seems bragging to your rich friends that you -paid someone to drag you up- climbed Everest isn't cool any more because so many people are doing it, but how many of their rich friends have seen the Titanic?

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

CEO acts like a 20 year old

I hope all this drama we are witnessing is not just because they haven't pressed the button yet.

@TheUnofficialMaker

Жыл бұрын

what button is that?

@gooselagoon2846

Жыл бұрын

@@TheUnofficialMaker I'm not sure what it does but it looked pretty important.

@paularose9407

Жыл бұрын

@@TheUnofficialMaker Literally the only button in that thing ... cos nobody needed to be burdened with a plethora of whiz bang buttons and switches!

A lot of people are reacting cruelly to the likely death of these people because they’re rich. Sheesh.

@grnpeepers2683

Жыл бұрын

It's not bc they're rich, it's bc of their choice. I just watched only a couple of minutes of this 'inventor' of the sub & he sounds like a delusional moron who built this 'vessel' & idea, in his garage. Then he charged a ridiculous amount of money to rich men who are just as delusional & lacking of common sense as the 'inventor'. And they also lack the skills to read people, such as this boob w/the gaming joystick as his controler for this fantasy of his. Doesn't any of this raise a red flag or 2 for you?

@wtfpwnage

Жыл бұрын

*rich and stupid

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

It’s not because they’re rich, it’s because they knew the risks and still went. The Titan was a death trap and it seems death is what they got. It’s unfortunate but everyone involved admitted an accident was highly likely.

@grzyruth9205

Жыл бұрын

thoughts and prayers to them

@sevionus80

Жыл бұрын

@@heavnxbound It's the quite alarming number of toxic and horrible people that use Twitter/Instagram/TikTok/etc that absolutely have been stating disgusting things about the 2 people from this tragedy, posting online that this is a "good thing" this happened because the people that were lost in the sub were "rich". Thousands of likes are on these terrible posts/comments. Tweets that contain comments like and I quote "The ocean is just eating the rich for us these days." Evidence within this video by Brett Cooper - kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWx-qcSilczFpZM.html

They should have got James Cameron to build it.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

He couldn’t build a door big enough to float two people, but you think he could build a capable sub? Lol

@fruitytarian

Жыл бұрын

He's been building submersibles for decades now, I'm sure they could have learnt a few things from him.

@CrookDanny

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomBogeyfunny…but he’s a renowned figure in the submersible community. At that level there are only a handful of people and they all say he’s done immense amounts of good for the entire field. Cameron also refuses to allow anyone else in his crafts until they are proven to be safe. Check it out, it’s actually very cool to travel down that rabbit hole and will give you an entirely new appreciation for him.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

@@CrookDanny yeah, it was a joke.

inspires me. im gonna build an airplane made from lollipop wrappers and an old ripped up oil rag I found on the side of the road. but dont worry, ill at least consult nasa about the Landing gear

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

Carbon fiber is a fabric.

Derek thanks for covering this! Always enjoy and learn from your videos.

Wealthy or not.. this is still very sad and as a poor person, I feel very sorry for them and their families and friends. How awful. :(

Well, seeing as how the scientific papers I read today seem to indicate that carbon fiber delaminates at temperatures found near the depth of the Titanic wreck, I'd say the sub is very likely to have imploded as soon as the carbon fiber got cold enough to come apart. There's a reason why submarines are made out of metal. I feel bad for the families because they are going to feel sad since they loved these people, but I don't feel bad for the people themselves, not because they certainly died quickly, but because they spent what would take an average American 10 years to earn on a joyride to go see other people's graves. It serves them right to have joined those people.

@zazaaziella16

Жыл бұрын

Don't judge.The average American wardrobe could feed a starving Village!

@rene9377

Жыл бұрын

We’ll certainly Money was substituted for wisdom

@MicheleBohmke

Жыл бұрын

​@@zazaaziella16 Wardrobe is food? Shoe-string potatoes anyone?

@Katoshi_Takagumi

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know about the temperature doing that, what I have been suspecting is cyclical pressure fatigue. Carbon fibre is essential a polymer. There's a reason why deep sea vehicles are constructed of titanium or steel, and the cockpit is made spherical. Two key principles were violated just in this regard.

The fact that the beacon shut off an hour and a half into the dive indicates, to me, that they were probably crushed on the way down. I certainly hope that's what happened. It's better than the alternative.

I bet Netflix are already awaiting the documentary to be made I swear

The more I hear about this sub. The more I believe it imploded. That Glass or bolts or just the build itself was definitely a Mickey mouse build for SUCH depths. People have to learn from this and stop trying to do such outrageous unsafe things underneath the ocean.

SMH 😔, they could have used a drone sub to view the titanic without the risk of death.

@sebsch4081

Жыл бұрын

Yeah no idea why you would not do that. only reason would be imo that you are physically there, but as you cant rly look through the window anyways it makes zero sense to me.

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

Yes a better business would be letting people pilot an internet connected ROV from the comfort of their living room. I mean its 2023 here one Starlink connection would do it.

@helen7kidd368

Жыл бұрын

​@@sebsch4081m9vies

The "banging" noises that have reportedly been picked up by sonar are actually the sounds of the passengers banging their heads on the inside of this submersible coffin as they exclaim... "How could I be so dumb to ever step foot inside this death machine!!!"

@wend2239

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god and I do have a conscience and I do sincerely apologise but this comment made me burst out laughing...I am sorry but this is spot on....

@KenzoLe

Жыл бұрын

Sounds of the*ghost passengers banging their heads

He sounds broke to me. Making some cheap elevator to death. I feel horrible for that poor 19 year old kid. You know he is the only one that really had no idea and was trusting his father. So awful.

I think the hull cracked an they died immediately after that. I do not for a second believe they are alive.

@detectiveMM

Жыл бұрын

Are people actually saying they're all alive? lol

@stephenbachman132

Жыл бұрын

@@detectiveMM i think they are suggesting the noise heard means that they are.

Imagine putting your life at risk going down to see the titanic and watching it on a tv screen the folly of millionaires

@rogerhorton3007

Жыл бұрын

There’s plenty of videos if you wanted to see what it looked like at the bottom of the ocean and it doesn’t cost you a penny to watch.

Absolute madness. Good reporting Derek. You filled in new info i hadnt seen. I’d seen many reports about the controller. But the window aspect is bonkers. This CEO is a madman.

@Goodhello369

Жыл бұрын

*was

Logitech is a good brand though but... HOLY SH*T I didn't notice before that it wasn't even a wired remote and that it was Bluetooth OMG! Been in IT for 20 years and for critical tasks I ALWAYS used wired systems.

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

At least a little redundancy. Have a wired controller in a cubby under the floor or something just in case…

I enjoyed that last few uncomfortable seconds of the video. Also all those people are probably dead from an implosion. If that is the case then at least they didn't suffer

Almost certain this thing was crushed, even if it has sprung just a small leak the jet of water would have cut them in to shreds before they all drowned, people don't need to go down to the wreck ever again, rov units can safely do what's required from above in total safety, not to mention that the whole things been mapped in super high resolution anyway which you can watch in the comfort and safety your living room.

@fruitytarian

Жыл бұрын

So sad. This is the opposite of the "we have X at home" meme. In the sub they would have to watch through a monitor, wouldn't have been able to see out the window of the sub. so they could have stayed home and had the same "watching the wreck through a monitor" experience, without the 4-hour descent into pitch black, icy water, under unimaginable pressure 😳

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

@@fruitytarian Yeah, but they could say they were right next to the Titanic at the bottom of the sea.

@fruitytarian

Жыл бұрын

@@garybregel4606 if they had survived...which they might have done if the CEO had just listened to all the people raising concerns about the design of the sub.

@garybregel4606

Жыл бұрын

@@fruitytarian Well, it all boils down to money. Getting it certified and replacing the cheaper parts with more expensive parts adds more time and money to the project. I guess he diden't think he needed to do that.

@fruitytarian

Жыл бұрын

@@garybregel4606 being a billionaire he could easily have afforded to hire the best engineers and buy all the highest quality components. He made some poor decisions and sadly several people died because of it.

Did any or all of these guys have suicidal ideation???

@heavnxbound

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing. The guys who built the sub knew it was pretty much a death trap, and the passengers knew as well. Low-key homicide and suicide in one case?

I believe the sub crushed like a pop can right before the acrylic started to crackle. I pray they arw found alive but i doubt it. I pray they didn't suffer. I dont like how the maker laughs about using the biggest POS products they can find.

@ChadGlassify

Жыл бұрын

Yea i don't get it either--he's proud of how piece of shit it is.

@SteveRCPilot

Жыл бұрын

Almost like he was making a point about using crap parts. The philosophy at this company was insane.

Just like having a college degree doesn't mean you're not a complete moron...the same thing applies to billionaires. Who are they gonna throw cash at to save them at the bottom of the ocean. I have little sympathy.

That poor kid truly believed that his father would never put him in Harm's Way..

The only question remaining: Will they wind up in this year’s issue of ‘The Darwin Awards.’ … Well, maybe one more question: Was it supposed to be a three hour tour?

@mariaangelica9988

Жыл бұрын

Hello, 2 hours to reach the Titanic, 4 hours to go around here and there, 2 hours to return. It amazes me they re watching the titanic in a computer, gosh go and watch it at home. What re they doing at that depth in a tiny can...?

Sorry to say; but it seems as if history is bound to repeat itself even when we do know exactly what happened and which mistakes were made, because some people are either morons or foolishly believe that they’re invincible.

So, the gist of the experience is that money can buy you anything, even death

@davehooper5115

Жыл бұрын

Death can be at any price you can pay $250,000 or it can be free,

Derek Van Shaik delivering right on time, as always. Thanks Derek

This thing had red flags and warning signs from the jump. Too much risk for my blood, even if I had the $.

Catastrophic failure. They never saw it coming. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You have people living below the poverty line that really need help in this economy (my ma with cancer for example...I help as much as I can, but I'm not rich either).... And then you have these idiots throwing their money away like they haven't got a care in the world. They knew the risks. 🤷‍♂️

I think someone wanted that rich guys money or company (what ever he owned) and convinced him to get on the sub….maybe sabotage

Hi Derek, I’ve been a silent fan of yours for years now. I’ve watched this video for less than 20 seconds, and love! You’re awesome!

When building the dangerous sub be sure to test, and test again and again. Because when you are 4,000 feet deep a mishap will end your life and there's no second chance.

As I understood it one of its "safety-feautures" is a bunch of sandbags or such tied to its sides which will detereorate from the saltwater and cause the sub to resurface after some time, if it haven't resurfaced it means that the sub doesn't have any bouyancy ie. it most likely imploded. Or their safety feautures were stupid and doesn't work.

@FloatingOer

Жыл бұрын

@PersisP Oh ok, I must have heard wrong then, I had heard there was an automatic system but that might have been for an earlier version or something

lol wtf, hes rich yet he built the thing with materials from dollar general

@RandomBogey

Жыл бұрын

The rich are notoriously frugal

dude the early 2000s askew camera angle is absolutely perfect lol

I think the owner of the sub was cavalier in saying we don 't need no stinking buttons or switches, ie depth gauges, buoys to jettison to the surface if there is a problem or other locator devices, What you have here is one overconfident rich guy rick rolling other rich guys to their doom. Yeah if I looked in 747 pilot cabin and saw One button and a PlayStation controller and the owner of the airline saying we don't need a bunch of stinking controls and buttons my sorry ass would have been outta there.

Everyone with a brain knows what happened. He was correct, it was a one elevator button. Straight down. May God rest the 4 souls killed by the insane CEO.

Wow, great video, so sad, im thinking an under current swept them away and or the submersible has been crushed by the depth 😢

Jesus I can only IMAGINE the guy pressing the button and nothing happens and the rest of the people asking him and now what?? And the guy responding: Well this has never happened before so let me press it again since is the only button we have.... 🤦‍♂️

idk why your videos stopped appearing in my feed. excelent video!

I love your videos Derek. But they aren't "knock-off" or counterfeit controllers, they are "third party" controllers from a respected company. That being said, these particular controllers are terrible - only wired controllers or a wired in-place keyboard should be used for mission-critical applications in general.

This video is on the mark. I dont believe these people actually grasped the danger involved. ☹️

@Dinadan993

Жыл бұрын

They were also not told complete truth by the company and it’s people.

@rene9377

Жыл бұрын

Stockton Rush, was the man who went to great lengths to romance his customers into believing it was safe. I believe some people pulled out of the deal at the last minute because they had their concerns with the safety of the sub and red flags 🚩 became obvious when they looked into it more.

At least they got the full Titanic experience

Dude, you really have evolved in your talent. It's a pleasure watching your videos.