What do you think failed on Stockton’s sub to cause the implosion?

@nolanarmstrong2458

Жыл бұрын

Shoddy engineering and ignoring regulations

@Jushwa

Жыл бұрын

his sanity.

@greglane3978

Жыл бұрын

Arrogance and DEI.

@jaybefaulky4902

Жыл бұрын

*you are THE sleekest 'new age intellectual bohemian hippie' on the PLANET!* and your vids are not frequent but are extremely well put together!

@redheadedstepchildatwalmart

Жыл бұрын

everything

"the problem with the world is the intelligent people are full of doubt, while the stupid ones are full of confidence" - charles bukowski.

@someoneout-there2165

Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right.

@olgatrilogymartin3143

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@MonguzTea

Жыл бұрын

There’s nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot.

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

4 ай бұрын

well said and so true this is why stupid people get themselves and others killed so often

@phoebesmith8154

3 ай бұрын

The Dunning Kruger effect is TERRIFYING.

Stockton Rush seemed like the kind of guy who tries to take a selfie with a buffalo and gets gored

@toddwilliams5905

Жыл бұрын

Because he had been to a rodeo before.

@zxyatiywariii8

Жыл бұрын

Worse, he's the guy who leaps out of the car at the zoological park, ignoring the sign "STAY INSIDE VEHICLE AND KEEP WINDOWS CLOSED!" to take a selfie with a buffalo, using flash, and causes the whole herd to panic and trample the car and everyone in it.

@largol33t1

Жыл бұрын

There actually has been a video posted of a foolish couple who tried to take a selfie with a LION. Of course it did not end well for them. I sometimes shake my head when I hear about people like the lion attack victims and wonder how some people lived so long...

@amaiyagrace

Жыл бұрын

He is Timothy Treadwell. Went to the Alaskan wilderness because he felt some sympathy for wild bears only for him and his girlfriend to be eaten by one. He even predicted his own death. Him and his girlfriend were packed at an airport ready to go when all of a sudden "let's go look for my favorite bear" even though they knew the bears were hungry" and then they only find pieces of him and his girlfriend and a recording so gruesome of their actual deaths. Timothy had a huge amount of hubris and narcissm to think he could live with wild bears because he felt sympathy. Rush had the superiority complex as Timothy and caused 2 deaths. Timothy's girlfriend was frightened of the bears but still went.

@amaiyagrace

Жыл бұрын

​@largol33t1 A woman was in a fight with her family during a drive through animal zoo, got out because she was mad and a lion grabbed her, her family couldn't fight it off. It's on camera.

I like how Stockton seemed to think that the reason why previous submersibles were "large, bulky, and expensive" were because they weren't focused on "market opportunities". Maybe, just maybe, they were large and bulky because they needed to be made of thick materials in order to better withstand the extreme pressures that they were being submitted to...

@charlieme5150

Жыл бұрын

I don't know, maybe 🤔

@ilovebeinagirl

Жыл бұрын

@unwarranteddesign806 What he said.

@maxxpopp2373

Жыл бұрын

stockton said, “dmn all that! i gotta pay these investors AND pay my own bills!”

@user-bs1lr8nx1h

Жыл бұрын

imagine a 3 km high rock pressing on you -water is not that heavy but try to lift a 500 (yard) pice of rock -I guess Stockton might gave done that in his dream session

@yambo59

Жыл бұрын

And NONE of the old school designs ever failed --

The 18 yr old who went “ to please his father” is the saddest of all. He was terrified , but he went anyway. Heartbreaking. 😭

@Filthy_Larry

Жыл бұрын

He’s the only one I’m remorseful for. The other 4, fk em.

@AlienSpaceship471

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree to make clear the son was 19 not 18 but yeah exactly, Did you know there was another father and son in las Vegas that Rush was trying to convince to go on the titan? The son thought it was not going to work, ( I did a video about it on my channel) their last name is bloom. They are glad obviously they didn't board the Titan.

@user-by6ul7di4b

Жыл бұрын

so happy that 19 year old died instead of bossing other people around

@byteme9718

Жыл бұрын

He didn't. His mother was supposed to go but she gave up her place as the son wanted to go so much.

@RevMikeBlack

Жыл бұрын

Thankfully, he never knew what hit him.

Stockton Rush exhibited many less common behaviors, the one most apparent to the world now is his astoundingly reckless approach to what he claimed to be good at. As an engineer Stockton Rush's rating is "Hack", he moved away from the sphere, he moved away from steel or titanium, he used untested materials in untested modes, he changed everything at once with no obvious consideration of how all these changes could interact, he ignored everything and everyone that was trying to warn him, he didn't cycle test to failure, he had no idea how long his invention should or would last. The guy was a crap engineer and he killed five people proving it.

@dannygjk

Жыл бұрын

I doubt that he was an engineer. Engineers use wide safety margins.

@globalcitizenn

Жыл бұрын

He was a psychopath who got a rush from gambling with his life

@abepl

Жыл бұрын

Prinston lol so that's what they teach u there, "innovation" and "thinking outside the box".

@ingvarhallstrom2306

Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt his engineering credentials. This is the mindset of someone whose parents bought him a degree. It's obvious he lacked even the most fundamental engineering basics.

@JM-zp7eo

Жыл бұрын

Awesome comment

I'm genuinely surprised that a seasoned submariner like Paul-Henri Nargeolet didn't recognize the danger of diving in that death trap/trash can of a submergible.

@m.h.6499

Жыл бұрын

I’ve wondered how he got Nargeolet on there. Did Rush pay him a hefty sum to give the project legitimacy and caché?

@alejandroromo6577

Жыл бұрын

@@m.h.6499 I think he also had these "knowledge bias" he convinced himself it was safe and that he was the best explorer on the titanic so if he goes down it is safe, and Im pretty sure Stockton marketed this to his customers.

@caty2ful

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, that´s the part I really can´t understand...Maybe he didn´t really care more about life. That´s the only plausible explanation I find.

@waitaminute2015

Жыл бұрын

I read he owned the company that sold items from the titanic wreck. He couldn't have done that without Rush. I also read Rush obtained rights to the wreck. How that happens I don't know, but maybe they were partners.

@alejandroromo6577

Жыл бұрын

@@waitaminute2015 Titan didnt have the capabilities to retrieve anything from the titanic, so I dont know why you say he couldnt do it without Rush

“At some point safety is just a pure waste.” That sentence sums him up in a nutshell. And sadly he took four others with him. I can’t fathom what it’s like for the woman who lost both her husband and son.

@SilkyDrawers

7 ай бұрын

He was soooo arrogant. “At some point, safety gets in the way of me ego”

@hhjj621

2 ай бұрын

Maybe she wanted the whole fortune for herself? *_NO, please do NOT lapidate me!_* This *is* a logical proposition.

@drivethruabortion280

25 күн бұрын

You said fathom.

@williamlouie569

14 күн бұрын

He actually hired a pilot for his sub. Lucky for the pilot he quit. Rush had no choice but to pilot it himself!

Several mechanical possibilities for the implosion have been kicked around, but the root cause - the primary point of failure - was Rush's personality disorders. Everything else sprang from that basic fountain of flaws.

@maxxpopp2373

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad somebody else said it! Untreated personality disorders!! No different than a high rolling coke head messing around with girls 40 years younger which I suspect was an important aspect of his life. But imma wait to see what vices his family says he had 😁😬

@JoseMTamez

Жыл бұрын

LOL! Good one man, "fountain of flaws".

@StrainOfThought

9 ай бұрын

Well, that and a bizarre family obsession with historical legacy leading him to uncannily repeat the mistakes of his ancestors.

@SilkyDrawers

7 ай бұрын

He seems to have had a death wish and a personality disorder

When a filmmaker has a better understanding of water vehicle safety than a CEO of an underwater vehicle company.

@reign2578

Жыл бұрын

He’s not only a filmmaker

@njwtube

Жыл бұрын

He makes films to fund his exploration mate. He's been to the bottom of the deepest part of the ocean 🌊

@nattphilia

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Cameron is pretty legit

@k9px

Жыл бұрын

@@reign2578 James Cameron is not a film maker? 🤣

@najwasabilayusuf1611

Жыл бұрын

Hey said "He's not *****ONLY*****"

Calling them "researchers" instead of "passengers for hire" was likely one of the many ways he skirted passenger safety regulations.

@ericsbuds

Жыл бұрын

i was wondering about that. i had a gut feeling they were just paying customers that had no impact on the mission. what a shady guy... oh god.. he actually just had them doing labor...

@Karamarika

Жыл бұрын

I think that was more about giving them a sense of self-importance. They are "researching" the Titanic, not just having a peek.

@roberthudson4440

Жыл бұрын

And fired the concerned 50 yo employees and replaced them with cheap 25 yo yes men also...

@tc-tm1my

Жыл бұрын

Even research has safety standards

@creos42

Жыл бұрын

@tc-tm1my less so than passengers. US Coast Guard limits passenger for hire depths on submersibles generally to 150ft and requires a means of rescue. There are less prohibitions on depths for researchers.

The idea of being an unpaid crew member while spending a quarter of a million dollars would've been a deal breaker for me.

@slushyglue9167

Жыл бұрын

Rich people are fucking crazy.

@Squirrelpadre

10 ай бұрын

You don’t have that kind of money anyways sandwich maker

@listrahtes

9 ай бұрын

It's a quite well known manipulation tactic in specific tourism offers. Like eco tourism were you get manipulated into doing grunt work and pay for it. But you get fake certificates of excellency etc. We had a scandal like that with eco tourism selling expensive tickets to save the planet by having a cruise on a sailing yacht but as you brought home coffee from south america you were saving the planet Blabla and you were an integral parr in saving humanity by doing super important scientific and eco friendly work. In the end they paid thousands of dollars to be unpaid cleaning staff in a commercial ship😂.

@elsajmurray7846

2 ай бұрын

Ya think?

@rustyshackelford3371

27 күн бұрын

​@@SquirrelpadreReal nice coming from a toilet scrubber.

I think he convinced himself that he was smarter than he really was. When everyone in your industry is telling you this is dangerous, then you should listen. He probably was so arrogant that he thought they just wanted to take his success away. Its very sad that he ended up taking 4 innocent lives with him.

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

4 ай бұрын

true so very true because how else can you keep doing something despite everyone telling you that you are going to get yourself and others killed

“Don’t miss the opportunity to be part of history” so ironic that actually came true with their very public deaths. So chilling. 😮

@wolf.eye._-

Жыл бұрын

And in a way, they're part of the Titanic's crew now.

@bursegsardaukar

Жыл бұрын

​@@wolf.eye._-No. They just became proof that human hubris is still alive.

@maryloufangman4086

Жыл бұрын

Bingo! That’s why this was the first 3+ person sub…”look what I did first” no one told him you don’t want to be the last either..

@Vixen743

Жыл бұрын

And they’re right next to the ship that sank in crashed for the same reason

@GTP2-zg9tn

Жыл бұрын

@@wolf.eye._- Finally, TRUTH in Advertising!!!

Climbing Mount Everest in a pair of blue jeans, cotton socks, sneakers and a winter coat from his closet would have been a better idea than doing what he did.

After reading comments, I remember remarks of a shop foreman- he referred to a university professor as "an over-educated idiot." I told him that I did not want to be "an over-educated idiot." He mentored me thereafter. Saved both of us many hesdaches. Thanks for your video.

@JohnSmith-fz1ih

Жыл бұрын

Careful tarring people with that brush. It wasn’t his education that taught Rush to ignore danger signs, or take a good material for flight and use it in undersea expeditions. And many highly educated people that told him that it was dangerous and could implode. I know it’s popular to bash on people with education, but it’s so often those with the type of hubris that Rush had that do this. Because they don’t know what they don’t know.

@user-bs1lr8nx1h

Жыл бұрын

there are lot of them , they wont dudge ,if they did they might realise their work was a waste of time and some persons cant deal with that or not being "perfect" -I see perfect as an mental illness and its boring

I think he was always resentful about not being able to become a military pilot and then astronaut due to regulation, which carried over when making the Titan and being called out on it "I am not going to let regulations destroy my dreams again!"

@johnmellor932

Жыл бұрын

That's a very good point. And I think you hit the mark. As someone who has suffered rejection in the past it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth and certainly does leave you feeling resentful to the powers that ruined your career. Thankfully I'm no Stockton Rush.

@dougankrum3328

Жыл бұрын

I had very poor eyesight since the age of 5-6 (and still do) so I realized early on there were things I was never going to be qualified to do....

@yakuza01

Жыл бұрын

@@dougankrum3328 very sorry to hear that. Probably Rush was aware of his poor eyesight but when you are the descendant of people who signed the declaration of independence and come from a wealthy family, you probably think nothing is impossible.

@irene_f.

Жыл бұрын

@@yakuza01 None of those things were his accomplishments. He'll forever be known as a man who had no respect for safety, a greedy and self serving man whose utter lack of common sense and respect resulted in taking 4 other lives along with his own. A legacy of shame.

@karlosskrak

Жыл бұрын

Now that's very interesting, I had no idea about it

The smartest man in the room syndrome. Will not accept criticism, and takes temper trantrums if opposed. Dominates meetings, tells real experts his opinions and rejects their facts. Very intelligent, but believes that others are not smart or clever. I'm dealing with one right now.

@someoneout-there2165

Жыл бұрын

Well he ended up dying being the dumbest one in that room. The 19 YO had more sense.

@jonw.415

Жыл бұрын

facts....he has to be right

@christopherwilson3242

Жыл бұрын

Reminiscent of a certain disgraced ex-president...

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Trump, much? Except for the "intelligent" part...🤭🤭🤭

@christina-dk2qx

Жыл бұрын

I am married to one of those, except he's not intelligent. At all.

As hard as this tragedy is I think it taught us a important lesson on ignoring warning signs just like the captain of the titanic ignored warning signs it’s a lesson for all of us I believe to prevent future tragedies

@maxxpopp2373

Жыл бұрын

Too bad the people that need these lessons don't learn them because from all the comments I'm reading on tons of videos, nobody else on here seems to have problems obeying safety warnings on any level.

@chanochgifter2212

Жыл бұрын

@@maxxpopp2373 very true unfortunately many people Dont like to learn from other peoples mistakes.

@maxxpopp2373

Жыл бұрын

@@chanochgifter2212 absolutely. That's what I meant by it's too bad the people that need them don't learn them. 😒

I had thoughts that this situation maybe was a murder/suicide. But no. I don't think Stockton's super-ego would allow that. The amount of hubris this guy had was off the charts. Usually narcissists don't kill themselves; they think too highly of themselves. Stockton believed his own hype and surrounded himself in an echo chamber, i.e. his company. One of the MANY red flags was when he fired that whistleblower for basically calling him out on his own bullshit. But that French retired diver really should have seen Stockton and this garbage can of a submersible for what it was worth. I can see the others not doing their due diligence (even though that shouldn't exclude them). But the French guy really should have known better. Such an avoidable tragedy.

@ericfranklin7836

Жыл бұрын

I wondered about Mr. Nargeolet myself, because there was no way that he didn't know this thing was a death trap. The New Yorker had a piece on this last week. The following is from the New Yorker article, please draw your own conclusions: For the Five Deeps crew, Nargeolet’s legacy is complicated by the circumstances of his final dives. “I had a conversation with P. H. just as recently as a few months ago,” Lahey told me. “I kept giving him shit for going out there. I said, ‘P. H., by you being out there, you legitimize what this guy’s doing. It’s a tacit endorsement. And, worse than that, I think he’s using your involvement with the project, and your presence on the site, as a way to fucking lure people into it.’ ” Nargeolet replied that he was getting old. He was a grieving widower, and, as he told people several times in recent years, “if you have to go, that would be a good way. Instant.”

@mattbowden4996

Жыл бұрын

@@ericfranklin7836 I don't think Nargeolet was necessarily suicidal. Instead I think he knew he was being used and didn't care because he was getting something he needed from the deal that he couldn't get anywhere else - some joy and distraction from his grief by regularly visiting his second love. I think the comment about the implosion being a quick way to go shows that he knew it was risky but he didn't care rather than indicating that he was actively seeking death .

@ericfranklin7836

Жыл бұрын

@@mattbowden4996 I agree with you that I don't think he was actively suicidal, but I think that he was at the point where "whatever happens, happens". I also think that he may have thought that he could be of help in an emergency. Sadly, he was mistaken. By all accounts that I have read of him, the submariner community lost a good man.

@kimberlysheridan5530

Жыл бұрын

The Laws of Physics are constant and apply to everyone. It does not matter how wealthy you are, how visionary you think you are, or what your family pedigree is. Push natural boundaries to far, and the Laws of Physics respond swiftly and finally. There are no appeals process.

@trucututrucutu6071

Жыл бұрын

@@kimberlysheridan5530 NO MORE OBJECTIONS YOUR HONOR

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge” was a quote said by DANIEL BOORSTIN

@richardedenfield5167

Жыл бұрын

That is a famous Stephen Hawking quote.

@TheTeaParty320

Жыл бұрын

Borstin sounds like a communist name.

@wolf.eye._-

Жыл бұрын

Once you believe you know everything, you've stifled your own ability to innovate by testing whatever it is you've created and then learn from the mistakes.

Even the 19 year old was smarter and realized what time and pressure can do to anything..I feel more sorry for him than anyone else.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

If he really believed they could die, he should have refused to go and insisted his father didn't either.

@megatuanis

Жыл бұрын

​@@ko7577 Easier said than done.

@hotdog9262

Жыл бұрын

@@ko7577 its a bit late when you and your father are heavily invested. its also a different culture..as silly backward one

@andrewcheatle4691

Жыл бұрын

What culture is 'silly & backward' exactly?

@hotdog9262

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewcheatle4691 pakistan

Somehow it had made 6 or 7 dives without imploding, so that probably led to a false sense of security.

@kenadams5504

Жыл бұрын

In these cases , the worst thing that is happen is that nothing goes wrong for a while.

Just a slight correction: from what I have learned, the passengers were labeled as part of the crew for liability reasons, not just to cheap out on labor. I'm no expert but as I understood it, the requirements for passenger-carrying vessels are higher, so he named everyone "mission specialists" and voilà! no passengers and a lower risk of getting sued

I hate to speak ill of the dead… except for the ones who take others with them. What buffoonery. Manslaughter by ego.

@craigsowers8456

Жыл бұрын

Indubitably ... see my comments above.

Scathing but accurate portrayal of Rush. You're the only person ive seen calling it how it is with this whole event. Well played Derek. 👏

@CeeTeeUSA

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Nobody mentions money and I think it's why he took these risks..

@011web

Жыл бұрын

Don't know why but for me it's like people have been trying to make Rush look less dumb then he actually was, I would say greedy too, anyway, Darwin's law was proven to be right one more time.

@danieldevito6380

Жыл бұрын

I've seen PLENTY of KZread videos describe that CEO perfectly. He was a spoiled, arrogant, lunatic who thought he knew better than the experts because he had money

@bode4951

Жыл бұрын

​@@CeeTeeUSA He was a greedy money grubber that American business schools turn out on a regular basis. The corporate masters at these schools not only teach amoral, predatory behavior, they also glorify it.

@danielcoburn7696

Жыл бұрын

I’d be even more scathing. He must go down with the biggest fools that were responsible for the demise of their ocean vessel.

Once upon a time about 30 years ago I went on a trip with a friend who was a former army pilot. He was certified to fly multi prop planes in the military as well as helicopters. Being graduate students we didn't have much money, but he belonged to a flying club and rented a Cessna for a weekend. him and I flew as well as two female friends flew out from central pa to Atlantic city. We were supposed to spend a day there then fly around New York city then Marthas vinyard. Keep in mind this was in November. We left the plane at a automated airstrip. When it was time to go the plane had some of its fuel stolen and the battery was dead. When we figured out we needed a jump we had to borrow a battery and jump the plane. By the time the plane was started with just a bit of fuel we took off. He told us we should land at Atlantic city international airport which was a 3 minute flight. When we landed he was covered with sweat and started swearing and said we almost died. The plane had less fuel than he thought and we had flown into a icy storm that started to make the plane unresponsive. He said he went to flip the deicing controls, but it was a Cessna that didn't have such controls. I had a bad feeling before we took off and I almost left the group to take a train back home. The point I leanred is that sometimes you should go with your gut and that people who should know better may overestimate their abilities but they are in such situations gambling with your life as well as theirs.

@clanwaddell5628

Жыл бұрын

Very good post

@mrbrown6421

Жыл бұрын

Women will stress out any condition...without trying.

@extantsanity

Жыл бұрын

Yikes. That's why pre-flight checklists exist. "Less fuel than he thought" sounds like a critical one to check. And, after discovering a dead battery, seems like all the more reason to look for other anomalies when the air strip is supposed to periodically check on the status of their rented vehicles. I just saw a video the other day of a pilot who found a bullet hole in the top of his plane. Cost him a lot of time and money to fix, and it was surely due to someone "celebrating" with their firearms nearby. But he was glad to have found it before he went up and experienced a differential pressure rupture in the cabin.

@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk

8 ай бұрын

This story is completely made up and I say this as a pilot. Any pilot worth his weight in salt will top his tanks off if he sees his fuel has been stolen. Also, nobody goes around stealing fuel at airports in America. Airplanes use a lot of gas so even a desperate pilot wouldn’t resort to that because it would be pointless, and 100LL isn’t that expensive, right now it’s about $8 a gallon at my local airfield

@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk

8 ай бұрын

@@clanwaddell5628no it’s not because it’s not true

You did an awesome job of digging into possible misperceptions and issues in Rush's thought processes that helped lead to this tragedy.

Stockton Rush suffers from the Dunning Kruger effect, where his minimal experience has lured him into thinking that he has expertise in a particular field where in reality he is essentially incompetent.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

He had a degree in aerospace engineering from an Ivy league school and owned a submersible company that had done repeated deep dives for 14 years. Those new 8K Titanic scans people are gushing about on here came from Titan. You can call him out for risking private tourist lives on an experimental submersible, but he had plenty of experience and education, and he designed this thing himself, and it did make it to Titanic at least twice before, which is pretty incredible when you consider they're not endlessly funded or a billion dollar corporation. People were enthralled with them just a year ago. They did some good work. The issue was sending tourists down, that's when it becomes negligent. That should have never happened, and laws need to change to make companies adhere to safety regulations. Anyway, he did have expertise in this field. This is just a case of someone being so blinded by greed that they bought their own bullshit on safety. And he clearly believed what he was saying and was willing to bank his own life on it. He was just wrong. Their own disclaimer had eight mentions of death. Any reasonable person reading that should have known not to go on this thing.

Stockton’s arrogance and negligence is sickening

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

It is. And hopefully it will be a great lesson for other CEOs and obviously brilliant people who have a lot to offer the world. Don't end up like this guy. Use your powers for good.

@TheRadiantSoap_

Жыл бұрын

negligent homicide

@Engineering_Science

Жыл бұрын

You don't understand the small details of things, he was an aerospace engineer from Princeton, he did this to troll.

@paul9156c

Жыл бұрын

In other words, he was a Republican.

@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt

Жыл бұрын

He’s just pure scum!

Yes, he reached the top of Mt. Stupid. And just like Mt. Everest, the slopes of Stupid are littered with the remains of many, many people.

@enigmaticallis3110

Жыл бұрын

It's funny that you mentioned that because Rush reminded me a lot of that character in the movie Vertical Limit played by Bill Paxton, who almost got his team all killed by being a reckless, greedy idiot!!!🏔️🥴🥴🤦🤦

@johnmellor932

Жыл бұрын

I'd say stupidity with mountaineers who climb Everest are the ones who feel they have to do it without oxygen supplies. They knowingly go into the death zone without oxygen bottles. Idiotic.

@irene_f.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like the Victims that Stupid got killed!

@7thsealord888

Жыл бұрын

There is a line from the 80s movie 'Blue Thunder' that seems like words to live by - ".... You're expected to be stupid. Don't abuse the privilege."

Wish I was a lawyer so I could fight those waivers. There is no way those people knew the real dangers. They had a false sense of security from listening to a savvy businessman who was drunk on his belief that he knew better than anyone in the industry. The alarm alone, (patent pending) that alerted the crew of the breakdown of the hull, is the most ridiculous thing.

@vicvega3614

Жыл бұрын

Yea all you would need is the fired safety guy who told Rush it was going to implode and i have a feeling Rush didn't mention that to the passengers, negligence

@claudiastokes6485

Жыл бұрын

@@vicvega3614 yes!!! And the guy who was his friend and dove with him. He wrote Stockton an email stating he should not take paying customers, because the sub was not safe. He said Stockton has built a mousetrap for millionaires.

That Rush dude is 100% responsible for the deaths that occurred on his sub. With that said if those transcripts were legit the monitoring system he built for the hull seems atleast like it functioned correctly

Seeing the Titanic in person is one thing. Adding your name to the list of the dead at that site is another entirely.

@sepnyte9422

25 күн бұрын

I would love to see Titanic in person but I'd rather go with James Cameron than Stockton Rush..

This is an absolutely necessary video at this point. I've become disturbed by how many people reduce this disaster to bad engineering when it really comes down to bad choices about who to become as a human being - not just for OceanGate, but for it's clients also.

@bobfly1657

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I really didn’t realize the extent of this …. I knew it was him but wow . And a shitty ass controller at that🤣🤣 couldn’t even have just used a ps5 controller ? Lol 😂 when the camera man laughed at the controller wow..

@globalcitizenn

Жыл бұрын

It’s not about choices.. it’s about Personality disorders like NPD and ASPD that can exist in anyone and how important it is to spot them to protect yourself and others. Rush was just wired that way.

@alecaquino4306

Жыл бұрын

So, you're saying that the passengers were equally stupid for signing a waiver that expressly stated that there was a risk of death?

@Malc_007

Жыл бұрын

@@alecaquino4306 All except that poor child who was trying to support his dad. That goes back to a classic skill everyone should use which is reading. You'd be surprised how many people don't read terms & use agreemnts.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

@@bobfly1657 There's nothing unusual about the controller. The Navy uses them, too.

14:10 "of course it's safe, I'm coming with you". I think that would be a powerful statement and that would convince a lot of people who wanted to believe it was safe.

After 20 years in industrial maintenance my firsthand experience with dissimilar materials (especially at mating surfaces) gave me the impression of someone very rich thinking they were impervious, believing it and surrounding themselves with 'Yes' sycophants.

"I want this to be what the iPhone was to the BlackBerry." That's an eerily accurate metaphor, because my ancient BlackBerry, which has fallen on cement more times than I can even remember, is still intact, and still works. My iPhone, which I babied, needed to be replaced after a mere 2 years. He built something essentially disposable, and then kept reusing it.

"You know what's more dangerous than a person not knowing what they're doing? "Yeah! A person who doesn't know what they are doing but is convinced against reality that they do!" -DVS Accurate statement.

@foreignwindow

Жыл бұрын

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. - Mark Twain.

Rest in peace, Stockton "Fuck Around and Find Out" Rush.

This is a classic 'Swiss Cheese Model' incident. With all the industry leaders advice knowingly ignored by this CEO, one thing should have been in place to prevent it, but wasn't; Negligence amongst the regulators left no regulations in place to stop this operation in international waters. I bet that's going to change now.

Here's what baffles my tiny brain. They wanted to "See Titanic with their own eyes", but sat in a little can, watching the Titanic through a plastic screen. Weirdly here I sit, watching exactly the same images through my plastic screen. They can't touch anything, and neither can I. Okay, I'll admit, I did not see it with my own eyes, but neither did they!!! Only difference is, it cost me nothing, and my life was never in any danger!!! Like....wtf is the point of paying so much....for literally....nothing!!!! Money really can't buy brains.

@wolf.eye._-

Жыл бұрын

Your tiny brain (your words lol) forgot there was a port hole and also- which one sounds better when you're telling it to others at a dinner party?

@barefootincactus

Жыл бұрын

@@wolf.eye._-So they risked their lives for social credit?

@RoanOC

Жыл бұрын

@@wolf.eye._- Rush says in one of the clips that the view on the computer screen is how they "view" the Titanic. The porthole is small, convex and not a very good view; it was not a "picture window." These idiots spent a quarter of million dollars to watch pixels on a screen. smh

@MaynardFreek

Жыл бұрын

@@RoanOCwow, that’s totally insane

@LilyGazou

Жыл бұрын

We will never understand it. Fortunately I’m n no danger of buying a ticket to such experiences.

One Las Vegas 19 years old did do diligence and talked his father out of this death trap. I believe his father will buy whatever the boy desires.

@pallasathena1369

Жыл бұрын

It is lovely to see a good bond and real warmth between those two, you can tell love means more to them than all the money.

@zxyatiywariii8

Жыл бұрын

That's a wonderful father-son relationship ❤️

@heckyeshess

Жыл бұрын

The son seemingly knew more about what it takes to dive that deep than the CEO.

@turnthepage867

Жыл бұрын

The 19-year olds have all the good sense in this case. I bet the Vegas dad has a new respect for his son

@jamesfrench7299

Жыл бұрын

It was a friend of his son who did the research. Now father and son have a friend for life.

This is the best, most thorough explanation I've heard. That losers legacy will always be exactly what you have described. Sad that four other people had to die because of his crimes

"Welcome aboard Mr. Rush. This is the real time monitoring system. You have three milliseconds to live. Thank you for diving with OceanGate."

I've watched a few videos on this by other experts, and one in particular raised an interesting point about the carbon fiber. They said its great for tension force, but not for compression forces. They also said that the reason why steel and titanium are used is because they're more homogenous in how strength is distributed throughout the material, which carbon fiber is not. Its really a miracle that this sub didn't fail earlier.

@wednesday8397

Жыл бұрын

Was that the engineer? Who was deeply disturbed by the lack of real structural tests? He also made a good point about how the one James Cameron and others have used were only meant for ONE TRIP because obviously the 2.5 mill tons of pressure does significant structural damage to the vessel and each time should have to be rebuilt or at least broken down to the shell and thoroughly analyzed. He mentioned the cracking noise the journalist spoke of isn't because it's doing nothing to the craft

@lm4585

Жыл бұрын

There is over 20 years of research and proven dives with titanium that he ignored. He also fired all experts he hindered who told him as much. James Cameron had over 30 successful dives and he went deeper than the Titanic. He went by himself and would never out others in danger. Deep sea diving is not for the public to tour and this maniac wanted to profit off of it and he was not an explorer at all as his supporters want you to believe.

@blitheringrando1410

Жыл бұрын

Did you see how they made it? It looked like they wound electrical tape over a titanium tube. I know carbon fiber sounds space age and fancy, but everything has a proper and improper application. Also, Epoxy glue is not something I would expect in the construction of a submarine hull...

@michaelmacleod7051

Жыл бұрын

The problem really does come down to cost though. Rush wanted to make a more accessable submersible that would be cheap enough to build that it could open deep sea exploration up to far more people. Manufacturing a steel or titatium pressure sphere twice the dimensions of James Camerons sub, which could only hold two people would be 8 times more expensive in terms of the raw materials used plus vastly more for the more difficult manufacturing procedures. A sphere four times the dimensions of James Camerons sub would need 64 times more titanium, 8x the dimensions would need 512 times the material, it goes on in an unstainable way, not to mention the exterior would need to be getting thicker all the time to counter the pressure so a sub 8 times larger would probably need closer to 1000x the titanium. Rush was right a different hull form is needed in order to build a practical vessel design that can scale up linearly, not exponentially in cost.

@wednesday8397

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmacleod7051 I totally get it, you're right. But it's one thing to put yourself in danger with expensive hobbies, yet another thing altogether when selling tickets without making sure at the very least, the integrity of the main chamber will hold in an emergency situation. It's not like he was so broke and needed money to save a family member in need of expensive medical treatment or something to justify skipping safety matters like that. It was profit he had in mind the most when it should have been at least 2nd which is what you're saying also only you say it much smarter and I learned something from you today. thank you!

He was arrogant and money hungry. He's the reason they're all dead.

@marilynevans8436

Жыл бұрын

He was financing his other endeavors with the fees charged

@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt

Жыл бұрын

A capitalist pig!

@DoobSac

Жыл бұрын

They are also responsible. When you're going to do something that risky you better know what you're getting into. How could anyone with a functioning brain go down 12,500 feet in a sub when it's window isn't even rated for half that depth? These are things that they had no excuse to not be aware of. Just like people who die climbing Mount Everest, it isn't a tragedy. You put yourself in a very bad position and paid the price.

@stephaniemurria5534

Жыл бұрын

I think he liked the attention and control more than money.

@Mila-Nova

Жыл бұрын

To be fair they signed a waiver that mentions the possibility of death several times. If I was as wealthy as they were, I would have hired a third party company to research them before I risked away my life

He called them Crew members because an uncertified sub cannot take tourist, that is the reason....

Derek I must say that you “nailed it” with your explanation. I was thinking of many of the same things that you said about Stockton.

He was a psycho spoiled brat. In other words, a CEO.

@nolanarmstrong2458

Жыл бұрын

Way to paint with the broadest brush possible

@curaturable

Жыл бұрын

You nailed !+++😊

@zephyr8072

Жыл бұрын

@@nolanarmstrong2458 Where's the lie though? Psychopathy is practically a job requirement for a CEO.

@davidrosaline455

Жыл бұрын

@@zephyr8072 where is the truth though? none, does not apply universaly so painting in a broad brush stroke with a negative light id add, fairly apt thing to point out..

@zephyr8072

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrosaline455 Stop kissing the ass of the rich. They'll never love you back.

I still can't wrap my brain around it that someone was egomaniacal enough enough to be this cavalier about the deep ocean.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

The same reason NASA launched Challenger in 36-degree weather.

@jarigustafsson7620

Жыл бұрын

Aah... Eelton Mutts bubble should also burst, collapse, explode.

@technophant

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t want to scrap it and start over. There was audible signs the hull was failing, like gut shots. He was hoping he could keep going and his hull monitoring system would give enough warning, it didn’t.

@mandywithell

Жыл бұрын

Listening to this my mind seems to think of Trump and Johnson. Cannot, for the life of me, think why!

@Romulan2469

Жыл бұрын

It's because he didn't want to believe that his "reinvention of the wheel" was a failure.

It is so ridiculous I keep thinking the whole thing must be a big hoax.😳

You can't push a rope. Carbon fiber is great in tension. Great for anything that is pressurized from within, such as aircraft and compressed gasses, but is unsuitable for external pressures. Add to that the connection between the end caps and the carbon fiber tube. The guy was cheap, and he used plastic. What a guy.

Carbon fiber was the critical mistake. He should have made a billet titanium capsule, which is far more expensive, but infinitely safer.

@CrookDanny

Жыл бұрын

One of the wilder things is how he bragged about getting the carbon fiber at a discount because it was past its useful date for aerospace applications 🤯

@zephyr8072

Жыл бұрын

Apparently it's fine if you'd just use it for one dive. The issue is wear and tear that does irreversible damage. Essentially this guy built a disposable sub and then kept reusing it.

@EmilyLucille523

Жыл бұрын

So they brought up the pieces today. Guess which pieces were intact?!? The titanium rings!!! 😮 Shocking! 😱🤦🏻‍♀️

@JeffTheHokie

Жыл бұрын

The Titan imploded on its way to the Titanic because it didn't have enough titanium.

@stevemora7845

Жыл бұрын

He also wove the carbon fiber in the same direction instead of two directions like a mesh which might have been stronger.

When you said he worked for 'Mcdonald Douglas' I was fully expecting you to say "McDonald's."

He called them “Mission Specialists” that make donations because he couldn’t call them passengers. If he called them passengers he would have never got the proper clearance to take them along in his experimental sub.

The 7" thick plexiglass "porthole" window was only rated to 4000 feet. The Titanic is 13,000 feet down. This was the 4th trip for the submersible...

@jenallen5202

Жыл бұрын

No it was the 14th trip

@TessaTickle

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it probably "crackled" a bunch before it failed. That's a quote from the CEO dude. Will we ever know if it's the porthole or the carbon fiber tube that failed?

@tamaracalderon6080

Жыл бұрын

@@jenallen5202 no ma'am... The Titan had only ventured down to the Titanic once a year for the last 3 years. Now, he did use it in other areas but they were much shallower.

@ClintSpinster

Жыл бұрын

@@jenallen5202 you are completely correct, 14 trips below 4,000 ft including 3 successful trips to titanic, dont let brain dead little children correct you when theyre own knowledge is sub par.

@dellystinky

Жыл бұрын

It was actually rated for 1,300ft

He had a fatal case of ego and pride. Unfortunately he took innocent people with him. Great video

@someoneout-there2165

Жыл бұрын

The father that let his child go down there was not innocent either. Sick man.

@JacobsDad

Жыл бұрын

yep true, and don't forget greed.

@CarolFremel-my4hs

Жыл бұрын

@@someoneout-there2165you can’t help stupid 😢

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

@@someoneout-there2165 A 19-year-old is not a child.

That Stockton guy totally underestimated the power of the deep, he figured he'd just wing it. Total toolbag

The guy had a fetish for being with the Titanic and being imploded. It unfortunately sucks that he took four innocent people with him.

@RatPfink66

Жыл бұрын

They went Wei Tu Lo.

There are two things that really strike me about this situation. How he lulled the father-and-son into a false sense of security by making them think it was completely safe, in my opinion was criminal. Yes they signed a waiver that mentions death but nobody reads the fine print and even if they did his pre-voyage speech likely erased any fear. Secondly, the fact that the youngest one was the only one that was apprehensive and scared is extraordinary to me. Seems like he was the only one who knew this wasn't a good idea.

@MG-ot2yr

Жыл бұрын

Paul-Henri Nargeolet should have known better and there was another father and son scheduled that cancelled due to questionable safety. So it was bad decision making for all involved, the red flags were there even for someone not so familiar with deep sea submersibles.

@zephyr8072

Жыл бұрын

There is an extreme sense of hubris among billionaires and businessmen like Hamish and the kid's dad. They think they're better than the rest of us, and they think fellow rich people and entrepreneurs are more trustworthy. This is why rich people who you'd think would know better get constantly conned by things like Theranos. Because they see an entrepreneur promising them great things and all they see is themselves and their own "greatness". So they see Stockton Rush promise that the Titan is totally safe and not a carbon fibre coffin ready to take them to Davy Jones' Locker and they believe him because he's rich, they're rich, they like business and money and they're just _better._

@TheJML1975

Жыл бұрын

Supposedly diving to those depths, is always dangerous and could end in death! So I don’t think they were completely oblivious, to those facts!

@rayronnyd4659

Жыл бұрын

​@TheJML1975 so is driving and flying. But people do it every day. Most make it home because plans and cars are rigorously tested and certified as per requirement by the US government. Stockton generated a craft with no certification and risked lives achieving his dream. And I'm sure did his best to sell the safety of his vehicle.

@rayronnyd4659

Жыл бұрын

@@postcardsfromprotest not at all. There will be negligence. Perhaps even criminal levels revealed about rush and his ocean gate company. Waivers are not get out of jail free cards for safety negligence.

I think it's bizarre that people wanted to go all the way down there to see something that they can see while sitting safely on the surface.

@GaZonk100

Жыл бұрын

yeah but you get a huge social-status boost...dinner-party stuff

@alejandroromo6577

Жыл бұрын

I mean, nowadays if thats the case you wont go anywhere tbh, this is just like Im rich, I did it and you didnt kind of thing. "im unique" "im special"

@waitaminute2015

Жыл бұрын

They were "mission specialists" not tourists. They were taking part in scientific research while making history! Expensive ego stroking.

@wolf.eye._-

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but which one sounds better.

@KidsWithGuns1992

Жыл бұрын

It's the same thing as climbing Everest or any of that stuff (except at least Everest requires physical ability). Why do we ever do anything? To say that we've done it.

I am no expert in any way shape or form, but to me the first thought was that the carbon fiber wouldn’t hold up under repeated dives, then when hearing about the hull making cracking noises it convinced me even more, and then after hearing the comments from other people within the submersible community about carbon fibers strengths and weaknesses, that just really confirm what I was thinking. I guess we still don’t know for sure, and may never know.

I have no desire whatsoever to see the Titanic. Even before this horrible accident

Well he promised a truly titanic experience for his customers and they got it

@Mysasser1

Жыл бұрын

Oop!

Ironic, his obsession with being an out of the box thinker landed him and 4 others into a box. Absolutely senseless and I hope this will act as a cautionary tale for a long time.

@hotrodhomefree

Жыл бұрын

he's not in a box now🙃

@Kerfufflekitten

Жыл бұрын

Very good!

@wolf.eye._-

Жыл бұрын

😂 I'm not laughing at their deaths, it's just the way you said it. Caught me off guard and made me laugh. 😂😂

@KidsWithGuns1992

Жыл бұрын

I get you're saying landed them in a box figuratively, but funny thing is they'll never be able to be in a box

if someone is telling you it's going to take a whole hour to seal you into a vessel from which you cannot egress of your own volition there should be a little voice in your head going : "FUCKING STUPID STOP>>>FUCKING STUPID STOP!!!!"

Actually, thick carbon fiber hulls in deep water is OK, as long as it's replaced before each dive. Remember, the same sub was used before on Titanic voyages, so it DOES work; the hull just degraded after each dive, so after 2-3 dives, it became too defective to hold up to the pressure

The only unfortunate thing about their quick, painless deaths is the fact that Rush never got the chance to see just how stupid he had been.

@GaZonk100

Жыл бұрын

what if their deaths weren't 'quick and painless' and the thing got steadily crushed like in a vise...uurrk

@waitaminute2015

Жыл бұрын

We don't know what happened... Yet.

@ObnoxiousCamoToe

Жыл бұрын

@GaZonk100 When the USS Thresher imploded, it was also considered instantaneous. So if a military submarine at only a fraction of the depth succumbed to the pressure in such a way, I imagine the Titan definitely wasn't slowly crushed. Which is why there would be a sound reportedly registered that was conducive with a "catastrophic implosion event".

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

@@waitaminute2015 This. The more I'm reading about this company, they'd operated for 14 years. He had called off many dives because he felt they weren't safe. He was also fixated on a safety program that would let him know when the safety of the hull was compromised and needed replaced. Did that fail or did something else happen? For all anyone knows, a passenger did something that caused it. Or they hit something unexpected. Or the pilot had a heart attack and someone not qualified tried to raise them to the surface and blundered. Could have been a medical issue with someone literally having a heart attack and dying while trying to descend at the proper speed. The CEO was 61 and the expert explorer going with them was 77. I do think there's more to this than just a hull failure. But won't be surprised if it's just that. One thing's for sure, he believed he was safe, too.

@rickbrenner6079

Жыл бұрын

Stockton died the way he lived; in a state of blissful ignorance.

the 3 most likely reasons it failed would be the 1. window failing, 2. carbon fiber failing, 3. the joints between the carbon fiber and the titanium failing.

@rayronnyd4659

Жыл бұрын

Or all 3. In fact. This craft was so terribly put together im surprised it didn't fail sooner.

@tomk3732

Жыл бұрын

They supposedly recovered the titanium lids and windows was fine.

@zxyatiywariii8

Жыл бұрын

I'm going to guess it was the stress differential between the carbon fiber and the titanium rings. They'd react differently to the repetitive stress of each dive, and eventually fail.

@ttrev007

Жыл бұрын

@@tomk3732 i just saw footage of the titanium cap and the window was not in it. was the window found with it? i am real curious what the state of the window was

@davidwilliams7552

Жыл бұрын

The window and titanium caps are not the weak point. The water pressure pushing on them just seals them more tightly. It is definitely the carbon fibre failing. The titanium caps were found unharmed.

I think I see an opportunity here - mold a silver-colored, dome-shaped plastic trashcan lid with a (rose-colored, of course) plastic view-port in the middle, add them to some cheap black recycled plastic trash cans, and sell it as the "official Titan green-science automagic (tm) recycling/compost facilitator".

Thank you for your input about Stockton Rush ! I feel sorry for the individuals who were deceived by his self proclaimed "safe submersible".The families should sue whether they need the money or not to discourage profits or safety for future and present travelers.

I know exactly what failed to make this disaster happen. Common sense.

That carbon fiber wasn't the miracle substance he thought it was. What he did was the equivalent of building a straw house and adding a few more layers of straw, thinking the extra layers would make a difference in surviving some powerful windstorms. A house of straw is still a house of straw.

@godfreyberry1599

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't trust a carbon fibre bicycle.

@johno1544

Жыл бұрын

​@@godfreyberry1599smart most manufacturers still recommend that you replace a carbon fiber bike frame after 6-7 years.

@terjehansen0101

Жыл бұрын

If you saw how they wound the carbon fibre in the manufacturing of Titan , you see it was not done in a cross pattern. Total ignorance of common practises. And carbon fibre is used in very harsh conditions such as racing extreme sailboats across the world. If it breaks, it's usualy due to an error in the production phase. If done correctly, it's a perfectly good and very strong material. And if you even listened to what they were saying - the combination of 2 materials (titanium and carbon fibre) is bad because of the different carachteristics. Further enhanced of course by not even doing the carbon fibre correctly. And for all we now, it may have been the porthole window that cracked.

@MonguzTea

Жыл бұрын

Try smashing a cf part with a hammer. The first few hits rebound, then the binding resin starts to break, the fiber delaminates. Every dive was like a hit with a 25 ton hammer.

@collingalanos1783

Жыл бұрын

@@godfreyberry1599 🤣🤣🤣🤣And that's on dry land. 😂

This was one of the best overviews I've seen. I dont think it was necessarily tragic all the way around. Because of whatever internal issues Rush had, he knowingly made horrible decisions that led to his death. What bothers me is that the others put their faith mistakenly in this man and the image he projected. At some point we all have to trust 'experts' that have knowledfe beyond ours. Its sad they put their faith in someone that didnt deserve it. If there was a required FULL DISCLOSURE to those passengers about the previous complaonts and lawsuit filed as well as the depth rating of the components, etc.....then they could have made an INFORMED decision about the risk rewars to go on the carbon fiberized tin can.

I've been a pressure vessel welder for 25 years. My company builds steam plants, power plants and chemical factories. Now, I'm not an engineer, I'm just a welder but I know that carbon fiber is extremely strong when pressure is inside pushing out but that it has far less strength when pressure is pushing in on it because it has a tendency to be very brittle and to deform in unpredictable ways. You can run a model in cad software of steel, titanium, aluminum and the material will deform and change predictably when pressures are applied, so predictable that there are formulas to figure the amount of distortion that will occur at any given pressure. Carbon fiber is not as predictable.

@AnemosFPV

Жыл бұрын

Insane he used a material that you can’t predict. The guy was was a fool

Any ship can become a submersible - but not every submersible can rise to the surface.

@polarbearsrus6980

Жыл бұрын

Or... rise to the occasion, apparently.

"Stockton Rush and his trash can sub" pretty well sums up the situation. Great commentary and unfortunately hilarious.

"There is a big difference in your apple phone crashing and your submersible imploding" 😂😂 Exactly.

He could have easily built a more safe submarine with conventional materials

@weslyn1021

Жыл бұрын

Or even tested what he had without putting other people in danger

@philmann3476

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but using time-tested, well understood materials such as titanium and steel is boring, conventional and nowhere near as sexy as carbon fiber. We're talking breaking the rules, man. Dig?

@zxyatiywariii8

Жыл бұрын

@postcardsfromprotest9162 Yes, and I've never seen their personnel laugh off the risks like he did. They understand this isn't a Disneyworld ride, this is extremely dangerous.

@philmann3476

Жыл бұрын

@@zxyatiywariii8 2.2 tons per square inch is nothing to laugh at. Engineering is, indeed, based in part on science and theory. It's also based on experience. People tend to forget that.

@FabledGentleman

Жыл бұрын

Yep, reason he didn't is obvious, cost. A ship made of a round ball of titanium that can fit 5 people will be huge, heavy, and difficult to transport. Or, if he insisted in using that shape, then have even thicker hull made entirely of titanium, and we are at back at weight and size which again comes down to cost. This was done to save money, pure and simple. Just the fact that this sub cannot be opened from the inside, i mean, come on.. And also, he had stuff inside that submersible that was not fire rated. He literally just had off the shelf lights, dimmer, game controllers and so on. Inside a sealed tube that cannot be opened from the inside. I mean, how anyone in their right minds thought that any of this sounded reasonable is beyond me.

When a former janitor and truck driver with no formal higher education (James Cameron) knows more about deep sea diving and risk aversion than an Ivy League educated aerospace engineer (Stockton).

@subjer0

Жыл бұрын

That's the difference between someone with real passion and someone who is only motivated by profit.

@bojangles2492

Жыл бұрын

Autodidacts can go far.

@taurian551

Жыл бұрын

Not just aptitude but attitude also does matter. Rush just rushed into everything believing “only I know it all”

@Ordog213

Жыл бұрын

Because Cameron took his time to learn about the thing he was interested in. He build his own sub and got it certified.

@sauronthegreat5799

Жыл бұрын

James Cameron is a genius and largely self taught. He's like a modern Thomas Edison. Higher education is overrated. You can't cure stupid. Stocton is an overconfident, arrogant idiot.

I actually adore this video! I've watched it 3 times bc it confirms everything I already knew about good ol' Stockton! Great analysis ❤

In corporate America you see this type of individual climbing the ranks and eventually causing companies to implode all the while taking a huge severance pay day going out the door.

I have a feeling if all the other cell phone makers had told Steve Jobs “hey your one button idea might kill people” he would’ve at least looked into it.

I have to say, I do feel bad for Wendy Rush, Stockton's widow, who also works as communications director for OceanGate. All at once, she lost her husband, has to watch his reputation being brutally trashed worldwide (albeit understandably), plus her employment with OceanGate is going to be highly problematic now (the company is presumably going to face massive litigation, probably won't have many paying customers left now, and I'm guessing will likely face bankruptcy soon. The company hasn't even updated their website with a condolence message since this all went down... that isn't the sign of a company that thinks it's going to keep going. No matter how flawed her husband was, that's an awful lot of loss for one person to endure in a short period of time.

@nancyjones6780

Жыл бұрын

The company is shut down and in receivership.

@pallasathena1369

Жыл бұрын

I don't - she enabled his crap - she knew what he was doing was wrong. She could have contacted the right people quietly to stop the whole charade. These deluded fantasists have to be reigned in when threat to life is involved.

@ultron374

Жыл бұрын

The website is shut down

@magburner

Жыл бұрын

The only person that trashed Stockton's reputation, was Stockton himself.

@johnd1727

Жыл бұрын

"that's an awful lot of loss for one person to endure in a short period of time." Compared to the awful loss of 4 passengers in less than a miilisecond. Sort of pales in comparison surely?

I still don’t understand why anyone would get on this thing when they’re success rate was absolutely horrible . Every time they tried to go deep something bad happened . I just don’t get it . This man got 4 people killed .

EXCELLENT video Derek! I wish KZread would spread your videos, I've always loved yoour content it's very good!

I had to chuckle a bit at a person paying $250k for a seat, only to be scrubbing some rusty pipe ballast and other menial cleaning tasks; because I have been emotionally manipulated like that so I know how a person can be blinded into thinking they’re helping and contributing to some “cause”.

@LilyGazou

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

@johnl5350

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that makes it sound a little more cultlike, which may be somewhat accurate in a way. Apparently it was contagious didn't just effect laymen since PH was apparently very well known and knowledgeable. Self deception must be self reinforcing, the deeper you get the less likely to admit you're becoming more and more wrong, have looked stupid and wasted your time. I think the politics of the last 20 or 30 years reflect that well in a lot of people. The end state can get so bizarre it's hard to see how anyone could get there

@stevencooke6451

Жыл бұрын

He was one Hell of a con man that Stockton.

@metricdeep8856

Жыл бұрын

If you thought that was expensive......you don't want to know what a return trip ticket costs.

@ko7577

Жыл бұрын

They actually took some beautiful 8K shots of the Titanic that have been circulating for over a year now. People were thrilled about them. Chances are you'll see them and enjoy them. There was nothing wrong with him doing this. His error was inviting civilians down. OceanGate had been around 14 years and did some fantastic work that you've probably admired and don't even know it. The deep sea is more challenging to safely reach than space itself. This is a guy who basically built a rocket ship out of spare parts and casually blasted off to "space" twice. Successfully. On its own, with just him, that's pretty damn impressive. The problem was on the third go, he should have been the only one dying with his creation. You don't charge people for their own death. If your sub is experimental - and the waiver was very clear about that, this wasn't "you might die" it sounded like "there's a great chance we'll die today - you go on your own. I'm actually impressed anyone could do this on the small budget they had. Even to reach it twice was amazing, but their ambition was bigger than their budget.

Ego is not a performance enhancing drug in any field. Confidence is one thing, but the second you can't handle criticism and think you know everything, you're a danger to yourself and others.

3:13 you have to be thankful that he quitted aeronautics to get into private subs. Imagine this guy designing and flying a passenger plane.

Truly one of the more interesting and animated as well has perceptive videos on YT.. Good Job.

Rush wanted to be Steve Jobs so much, he made a submersible as fragile as an iPhone.

@michawee

Жыл бұрын

Since when are iPhones fragile?

@clottadams5028

Жыл бұрын

@@michawee I've never seen one without a cracked screen.

This is the most realistic breakdown of rush’s psychology I have seen so far. Excellent work.

1:46 Attempting to damage the plexiglass... brilliant

Dude was saying that the safety mesures was ; "A constraint to the innovation". As if submarines was a new thing and that this dude and his friend were the Wright brothers of submarines.

It is also worth noting that out of 5 attempts in this season, that was the first in which he decided to go to the Titanic. It feels like he just went all-in, because of the big financial losses. He acted like a gambler.

His over inflated ego got him, and his narcissistic need for attention and control. Very, very sad for the other people that they all became unintentional "Darwin Awards". I feel so sorry for their families.

@atagadol

Жыл бұрын

Those other people had choices as well. I am talking about adults. They all came from the same egotistical and egocentric , narcissistic ground. I do not feel sorry for them , beside that young boy. If his father would be given birth to him, maybe he acted differently. ..

@atagadol

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting expensive death. People who love life can find many rewording activities and interesting things ...those who are looking for the adrenaline level, will never be satisfied and always will look for other source for the next portion. The end will be same sooner or later. It is addiction,

Why I love his videos 😂 adding the random trying to smack the moth and just moves on

The CEO's ego first imploded when the controller was not connecting and that caused a shockwave inside of the sub, which then also imploded /s

He wanted to give people a unique once in a lifetime experience. You could say he succeeded.

@dunwoodie27

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂🫣 I’m not laughing I swear it’s the way you said it 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@chris11980

Жыл бұрын

No he just sucked 😅

@eriknilsson7787

Жыл бұрын

@@dunwoodie27 like receiving one's pilot glasses from emperor hirohito.

@Deadsea_1993

Жыл бұрын

They didn't even make it to see Titanic as it failed before they got there. So he failed at that too

@fatherpaulstone896

Жыл бұрын

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