Ok, people, what's the worst argument someone has used to try to convert you? For me it might have been, "You just deny God because it makes you feel better about being gay. Just go to conversion therapy and you'll be able to believe in god again." My wife would be shocked if that were the case.

@user-lw5oc1tt8k

5 жыл бұрын

read the bible

@Cosmological

5 жыл бұрын

"But who made the universe?"

@rlinquishd3257

5 жыл бұрын

“You’re just angry at God”...it bothers me because they never say what I would be angry about. It feels like a personal attack on my character, appearance, or lifestyle.

@christianrobinson5857

5 жыл бұрын

Genetically Modified Skeptic mine is “it takes more faith to be an atheist”

@alfredogonzalez8735

5 жыл бұрын

Genetically Modified Skeptic there is much more nonsense coming from carnists like: “canines tho” or “plants feel pain tho” .... what’s your best defense of the animal products industry or the entire practice of killing animals for food ?? It’s clearly not the best thing for the experience of conscious creatures if that’s what we care about

There are two kinds of atheist: 1) Been there, done that. 2) How does anyone ever gets to believe this in the first place?

@TheAntiPhilosopher

4 жыл бұрын

And I can say you fall to the second category... Me too bro

@user-xe6kv6pw1s

4 жыл бұрын

Parents

@TheAntiPhilosopher

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-xe6kv6pw1s and the whole society

@putinsgaytwin4272

4 жыл бұрын

I’m number 1. Although I wasn’t a very extreme Christian as it was my granny who brought me to mass every Sunday and my parents weren’t bothered to go cuz I don’t think they had a strong belief.

@F100cTomas

4 жыл бұрын

@@putinsgaytwin4272 I am number 2, my parents are too, all of my friends are too, and many people I come across every day are number 2

"Just read the bible." I did, that's how I became an atheist.

@unknown81360

5 жыл бұрын

Well there's way more religions out there

@MrMarco855

5 жыл бұрын

Unable to comprehend is the main reason that people leave the Church.

@macrussell78

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarco855 Well that and the child molestation, obvious corruption of power, the violently stupid followers who attack whoever doesn't believe in a particular version of their master that lives in the clouds and generally being a moral pestilence to humanity.

@hangedman821

5 жыл бұрын

@@macrussell78 Jesus is born on December 25th...and he died on a cross. I can prove it...and I bet you run before I do....wanna play?

@macrussell78

5 жыл бұрын

@@hangedman821 You already started off with something proven false but why? You seriously have nothing better to do with your time?

"Athiests hate God." How can I hate someone who I think doesn't even exist?

@drew506

2 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of antitheism?

@DeathKillingFile

2 жыл бұрын

​@@drew506 This is a concept that actively works against religion, but this has nothing to do with the existence or nonexistence of God. An antitheist is always an atheist, but the atheist does not necessarily have to be an antitheist.

@drew506

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathKillingFile this is true. But in recent years, the two philosophies have started to overlap.

@DeathKillingFile

2 жыл бұрын

​@@drew506 No. As I sayd. These are to differend concepts. Atheism is just the belief that there is no God. Antitheism is against the belief in God. Huge difference.

@drew506

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathKillingFile and yet atheists spend almost every moment saying how religion is retarded and the people who follow them are mindless idiots. Don’t believe me? Go to r/atheism.

Someone: “How can you look at trees and not believe in god?” How. What. Trees? Yeah trees are cool. How do you look at the moon and not believe an invisible two-headed unicorn named Aria pulls it around Earth?

@mikefrost5575

2 жыл бұрын

All while the Sun God Apollo pulls the Sun. XD

@derpedlerp1237

2 жыл бұрын

All while bill Wurtz is the god of music.

@darkestlune9580

2 жыл бұрын

And a portal to a fantasy world doesn't exist?

@JK-gp2rh

2 жыл бұрын

This sounds like something I heard from the most recent JWs convention

@TenTinyPotatOS

2 жыл бұрын

That's called a straw man. it's when you take someone's argument and say they believe something they didn't say or imply. It's a logical fallacy.

You forgot "but you're such a nice person! How are you an atheist?"

@SuperHuscarl

5 жыл бұрын

Oh my God, too freaking true! I've heard that before and it's such a guilt-flattering argument to say... Pretty much to anybody.

@khymaaren

5 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, that's pretty much my reaction as well when I learn that someone is religious... Maybe not that funny... But I always keep it to myself, at least.

@-eternal

5 жыл бұрын

What I ask Atheists is, "But you're such a smart person! How are you an Atheist?"

@Derrickthepeng

5 жыл бұрын

@@-eternal Yeah, how could anybody not come to the conclusion that there is God?! Clearly, the evidence is all around us and points to there being EXACTLY one god and no other! It's so obvious!

@-eternal

5 жыл бұрын

@@Derrickthepeng Exactly! The evidence is clearly there, the universe popped out of a cloud! You'd be an idiot if you said otherwise.

if atheism is a religion, not collecting stickers is a hobby.

@jvelin9723

5 жыл бұрын

**[applause]**

@daddyaf945

5 жыл бұрын

Atheist is your word for us and yet you get it wrong. We do not worship immiterial creatures, practice magic, believe in revealed wisdom or concern ourselves with delusional notions of life after death. We do wish to work together and progress toward better outcomes through planning, cooperation, implementation, review, revision and correcting errors to modify the future in ways that surpass our individual abilities and lifespans in order to benefit untold generations. We refer to ourselves as secular. Thank you for your attention.

@pinheadlarry1977

5 жыл бұрын

@@atheismkills3748 you're argument is "you can't disprove it so it must be true"lmao

@totallynotzokix11_mc21

5 жыл бұрын

@@pinheadlarry1977 What did Atheism Kills say? His comment is gone now

@pinheadlarry1977

5 жыл бұрын

He was talking about how @daddy af can't disprove the after life

The toughest question I got were "what if you're wrong?" I found out later that 10,000 religions exist worldwide and Christianity has 33.000 to 40,000 denominations, so any Christian has only a 1% chance of following the right religion.

@Tova-Barin

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm… How did you come up with the 1% chance?

@UTTPOfficer-Left

10 ай бұрын

that would make it WAYYYY lower than 1% chance but that's a point ig

@shrekiscool4743

8 ай бұрын

​@@UTTPOfficer-Left they're a bit confused but they've got the spirit

@locinolacolino1302

5 ай бұрын

Not all are created equal, after accepting that 99% have been started by heretics looking to justify their messed up personal beliefs, it becomes much easier to decide.

@Uthun

4 ай бұрын

I just say "well I am going to hell, I guess"

The worst argument anyone ever presented to me was almost beautiful in how flawed it was. First, the guy asked me if it would be wrong for him to cheat on his wife. I said it would. He asked why. I said that it was because he had made a commitment in marriage to do, and not do, certain things, and so he shouldn't break that commitment. He agreed, and said that by being born, I had made a similar commitment to my family, and that part of keeping that commitment meant not leaving the church.

@SATELLITEDOWN7735

Жыл бұрын

Lol...sure, when I CHOOSE to be born I signed a contract.

@Powerhaus88

Жыл бұрын

Theists generally speaking are morons.

@aayamgiri

8 ай бұрын

Only if I could customize my character before spawning 😩

@cachehoward2852

4 ай бұрын

Easy rebuttal to that one: "Children cannot consent to any contract, therefore that contract is null and void."

@l.n.3372

2 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, what if the baby was born to a Muslim, Jewish or Hindu family? Did the baby somehow sign a contract to never leave the church if their parents aren't even Christians xDD

If you don't believe in my invisible friend, my invisible enemy will torture you for Eternity.

@dolfuny

5 жыл бұрын

Basically

@robertnett9793

5 жыл бұрын

@@dolfuny my invisible friend has another invisible frenemy who will do the torturing for my invisible friend.

@chubsnubber4867

4 жыл бұрын

That is really funny and really true!

@0x777

4 жыл бұрын

That god comes across like a mobster, doesn't he? (read in a Don-Corleone-voice): "Nice soul you have there. Shame if anything bad happened to it, wouldn't it? Better pray really, really hard..."

@007dog1

4 жыл бұрын

So then i give this question to any atheist who see's this. Why dont you believe in God? Now its hard for me to try to relate because when i use to be athiest, what changed me was seeing with my own eyes (probably most hated answer) and to try to explain to someone who has never seen anything spiritual is quiet hard because they cant relate. And from my point of view, most times when i try to bring up questions to athiests, they have always ended up with, "IDK" eventually and that's also hard to fight too because "Idk" and pride go hand in hand. It has been very rare for somebody to tell me "idk" and really consider why they dont know instead of saying "idk" and leave it at that because they dont understand. We all fall guilty of casting out anything and almost everything that doesnt agree with our understanding as stupid or non sense and that doesnt only apply with God. We all have seen and believe in the work of God and have names for them that most people i know, believe. That's *Luck* , *Karma* , and *coincidence* . These are the top three names that keep people from believing in God simply because they have a different name to them. Now idk anybody who has been able to answer these and debunk them without starting with, "I dont know" But all our life, we are told that we are limitless but the truth is that we are LIMITED. Both physically and mentally. How many times have you heard, "you can do anything if you just put your mind to it"? That's a root of pride. Your understanding can only reach but so far and because most people believe that lie, when something comes to try our understanding of things, when we can only answer with "i dont know", that pride comes into play and we cast it off as stupid or non sense. Now if you read this far, that shows me that you're willing to listen. And now i ask you, with all the theories that i come up with during our debate, if you can explain to me, or show me a video that debunks my theory, please do. But i do say, most times, when something seems like it debunks a theory, its because we havent seen the "debunking" being debunked because we stop when it seems like we're the victor. So again i ask the question. Why dont you believe in God??

"God could clear a lot of shit up with a five minute press conference." -Louis C.K.

@MrMarco855

3 жыл бұрын

He left a much longer press conference for everyone in the Bible. How many would say it wasn't really God,. it was a trick by theists?

@volcryndarkstar3283

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarco855 the Bible was written by people, not God.

@empcat1254

3 жыл бұрын

technically but then he would be encroaching on our free will Edit: I was wrong here. But he already came down and told everyone, that's what the new testament is about.

@johnathanera5863

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarco855 that would matter if the bible was written by him and not just a bunch of dudes making shit up lol.

@MrMarco855

3 жыл бұрын

@@volcryndarkstar3283 If the CEO of a corporation has his secretary take down a letter, who is the author of the letter,... the CEO or the secretary? Pay attention and you'll learn something.

The most annoying to me is older people who say "When you're my age, you'll feel the presence of god".

@bharatyaswaraj5641

8 ай бұрын

Thats the truth, i was an atheist but then i came out of the ignorance and realised im just a limited finite being that needs the infinite God

@arthurtfm

8 ай бұрын

@@bharatyaswaraj5641 But personal experience is not an argument for the existence of any god.

@billpetersen298

6 ай бұрын

The ones who are afraid of death. And just want an easy answer, to feel better. Did I say lazy?

@bharatyaswaraj5641

6 ай бұрын

@@arthurtfm yes that can be only understood by experience so when you are your grandfather's age you would have experienced much more than you have experienced now

@cutienerdgirl

6 ай бұрын

​@@bharatyaswaraj5641 You're just afraid of death.

All I want to know is why it’s so crucial to believe in something bigger than ourselves. Why do so many people need to be reassured of their worth, and to believe they are an important part of the world we live in. We are insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that’s okay. I’m just happy that I was born into this world and that I can spend the time I was given with the people I love, that’s all I need to know that my life has a purpose.

@paulread7113

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Thank you for putting it so eloquently.

@sabinamakubo926

Жыл бұрын

yes exactly!!, there's this one argument that christians use against atheists that 'you can't prove that God does not exist' but they don't understand that lack of solid and observable evidence is actually the proof of his absence at least in SCIENTIFIC LOGIC

@sabinamakubo926

Жыл бұрын

@@myNameIsNot- yeah i know and that's why i said "AT LEAST IN SCIENTIFIC LOGIC". lack of solid evidence and observable evidence of a claimed character means it does not exist until solid and observable evidences are provided. It's pretty much the same thing christians mean when they tell you to prove the non-existent, "'"just because I can't prove doesn't mean he exists"'" and so they conclude that 'UNTIL YOU PROVE THAT HE DOESN'T EXIST THEN HE EXISTS' you get my point now?🙂

@theboombody

Жыл бұрын

I think it's because if we accept that nothing matters, it means that good and evil are equivalent in the eyes of nature, and that's pretty hard to stomach.

@user-ps5qh4qn5x

Жыл бұрын

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"I'll pray for you." "Yeah I didn't get you anything either."

@tkmccoywv

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't it strange how often they say that as a punishment or threat? Seriously, pray the crap out of yourself.

@lil_weasel219

4 жыл бұрын

oh yes xD the passive aggressive condescending response

@an8strengthkobold360

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah um good for you, I remember you and feel sorry for you at some point I guess.

@tkmccoywv

4 жыл бұрын

@@an8strengthkobold360 If that's what makes you happy, knock yourself out.

@an8strengthkobold360

4 жыл бұрын

@Lotte yeah that's, that's the point

Bruh, if an angel literally appeared in front of me then, of course, I'd change my ideas.

@Guts_Brando

4 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@brendanbabin6315

4 жыл бұрын

What would make you certain it was an angel?

@Scyllax

4 жыл бұрын

Brendan Babin It could be Hawkman.

@brendanbabin6315

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scyllax If it called itself Hawkman, then yes. It'd be Hawkman.

@brendanbabin6315

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scyllax I also would just like to mention that the Judaic premise of angelic beings aren't described as having wings.

I love how the great evil in the world is knowledge

@damn754

Жыл бұрын

whatever

@resaucefull444

Жыл бұрын

Which is absurd.

@Infinite_Dimensional_Cheese

Жыл бұрын

And people say knowledge is power. *sips green tea *

@umadbro2561

Жыл бұрын

The Apple???

@theboombody

Жыл бұрын

Well, if the knowledge is in the hands of the wrong people, yeah, it can do a lot of bad in a hurry.

"You can't prove god doesn't exist." - Always so funny because they can't prove god does exist either. Why potentially waste thousands of hours of your life going to church, praying and discussing religion if there's a good chance it's completely pointless.

@justanscv

2 жыл бұрын

People have widely accepted that the burden of proof is on those making the claim (i.e. you don’t have to prove you aren’t a criminal), so anyone making this argument in an attempt to convert others really is stupid. On the other hand people go to church for psychological reasons, usually it’s a way to seek comfort which is a rather strong insensitive.

@Kt-hp7cv

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much Devil’s proof. Of course I always lean toward the more logical side. Though we can’t prove the existence of gods, science has came pretty far and debunked a lot of his stories and the Bible. I’m not saying I hate religion and Christianity/god, I’m just saying the Bible is a really sketchy book.

@starlit8223

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly a lot of people simply believe in it for the sense of comfort that it could bring and how it might actually improve their life. One of my real life experiences is how my uncle was actually a horrible drug abuser until he found religion and after a year and a few months he was a completely different person. May not be real but at least it provides proper comfort to those In need

@devilsadvocacy

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that but there is no greater probability of one god’s existence as opposed to any other. There are thousands of gods. In the absence of any empirical proof, what makes one god’s existence more likely than the thousands of others?

@Cyclops0000

2 жыл бұрын

@@devilsadvocacy Completely agree. Who's to say the ancient religions that had gods for the sun, moon, sea etc weren't correct? Or any of the many religions in India? People believe their religion so fervently but the only reason the vast majority of people follow their religion is because they were born into a family/town that brainwashed them as a child.

“You’re just going through a phase.” Yeah, my “atheism phase has lasted more than 63 years so far.😂

@fairiesarefair

3 жыл бұрын

I- lol mate it's going to last a lifetime 😂 👍

@tronche2cake

3 жыл бұрын

Just trust me bro, it's just a phase. Another 60 years and you'll be believing in god Edit: the joke is that he's at least 63 years old, so in 60 years he's gonna be at least 123, which means he's either gonna be real dead, so he can't believe anything, or in heaven so he'll believe in god. I'm also an atheist please don't dunk on me

@MrMarco855

3 жыл бұрын

You've still got time.

@FourDeuce01

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarco855 I still have a working brain, too, so I'm pretty sure I'll be staying an atheist.

@taynahibanez9952

3 жыл бұрын

LOL. Being serious tho, all these christians invalidating your lifetime experience like they know better than you, just shows why atheists doesn't listen to them.

“The Bible says XYZ...” Me: Okay, what if I don’t believe the Bible is the infallible word of God and think it’s just a collection of stories written by men? “Um...Well...Then there’s no helping you. Off to hell with you.”

@kenshiloh

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, if you doubt the Bible, have a talk with God about it. "The pure in heart will see God." An atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a police officer; we are born as rebellious God-haters. Yet, if you ask God to show you what is so great about knowing Christ, He will show you. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

@justinchampagne1729

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenshiloh Alright, let's test that. As I'm typing this, I'm saying these exact words aloud: God, show me what is so great about knowing Christ. Please, I want to know. I'll report back on the results, but I'm holding little in the way of hope that I'll get anything meaningful.

@AthosJosue

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenshiloh Ok the bible isn't real and god doesn't exist, now what?

@esbenm6544

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenshiloh That's sweet, just like in Peter Pan. Ofc if he doesn't answer, that doesn't mean he's not real, it's just that you didn't believe hard enough, or didn't sprinkle enough fairy dust.

@sporty6178

3 жыл бұрын

@@esbenm6544 God will answer every prayer! Whether it’s obvious or not God will ALWAYS work it out! And to say that prayer is like pixy dust is way out of perspective. Prayer is led by a relationship with God. All can pray, anywhere, any time, any reason, anything! That’s the beauty of it. However, to compare it to pixy dust is assuming prayer is to gain something, in a sense. God is happy to listen to your request, but he may say no. If you ask God for a million dollars and expect it is very unfair. Now, I am certain God will lead you to a relationship with Him with great joy! So, I ask that you pray with genuine want for a relationship with God, it will come. Also, honest question: Do atheists that grew up atheist avoid God? Or are they genuinely trying to love God? Please help me understand your perspective better! God bless!

That woman who talked about her fear of death, I sympathise. I grew up in a religious family and never really believed beyond vague ideas. I started to really think about religion and question in my pre-teens/early teens, but my fear of death eventually pushed me to get baptised in my late teens. It was really more of a Pascal’s wager situation if I’m honest and, in the end, rational thought won out anyway.

@user-ps5qh4qn5x

Жыл бұрын

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.islamreligion.com/ebooks/islam-guide.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiO9er3jcf9AhUfgv0HHcQaAsgQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jCmIqCXpRo-EZaG-rlWde

@nuridenizdurucu1249

Жыл бұрын

Fear of dead has a HUGE impact on human mind and society. Like- it is why we put ourselves in wooden boxes after we die.

@avaggdu1

8 ай бұрын

Or you could accept that everyone dies and there's nothing you can do about that, beyond trying to extend your life as much as you can, but you may still be hit by a bus or have an unexplained brain aneurysm tomorrow, so you may as well stop fearing it and go about the business of enjoying what life you have, especially with no smidgeon of proof of souls or an afterlife.

@NuSuntRaresh

6 ай бұрын

I completely agree. Honestly, that's the reason I want all people to become atheists, so they fear death, so we all can work together to make all people's lives better and longer. I think we would advance much much faster than we're doing right now

@brianharper1611

4 ай бұрын

@@NuSuntRaresh I am very skeptical how much anything would change if all people became atheists.

Atheism isn't a religion, and neither is theism. They are simply the belief or lack of belief of a higher being or beings. Theists just don't get that.

@ricraftz76

2 жыл бұрын

That is literally the definition of a religion,a belief in a higher being

@michaelgillespie9112

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not adherent to the idea that there could be higher beings, after all, we can't know, but I'm atheist because I can't accept the contradictions in most religion.

@ragingraichu219

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricraftz76 The belief itself isn't a religion, a religion is the organized practice of said belief in any form.

@CarlaCavenagui

2 жыл бұрын

I Know right!

@edwardteach1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricraftz76 Believing on a higher power doesn't necessarily mean you're a member of a religion.

"Just read the bible and you'll see it's true" Me: "Someone wrote Lord of the Rings too, so that must be real too" "No, those are just books"

@brooklynvlogs9396

5 жыл бұрын

i swear that Lord of the Rings argument is so silly. LOTR has never foretold future events, nor has it ever told history or spoke of scientific understands that we're only recently finding out to be true through modern scientific testing. yes they are both books, but one is fantasy (LOTR) while the other is a Biography. Yeshua Ben Elohim (Jesus) was an actual person, as was King David, Solomon, Isaiah, and everyone else mentioned in The Book.

@thederogativeworld

5 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynvlogs9396 But there's war in LOTR, it predicted war in real life. What did your "biography" predict? What about the transplants technically depicted in Frankenstein? What about credit cards in Looking Backwards? The nuclear-esk hand grenade in The World Set Free? And wow, things like fictional movies and games (and books too) also can include people that actually exist or existed. What does that have to do with anything?

@brooklynvlogs9396

5 жыл бұрын

@@thederogativeworld yeah nit picking doesn't work for this argument, oh the main character was short with dark hair and my cousin is short with dark hair therefore he is Frodo! not a good argument. and just to name one Jesus predicted that the world will eventually legalized all forms of Lust, Homosexuality is legal and soon the legal age of consent will be drastically lowered, in California they're already treating it as a gender/sexual preference, after that bestiality will become legal. and it has everything to do with it because you were comparing The Bible to Lord of The rings and now your changing your argument of full fantasy to semi fantasy.

@thederogativeworld

5 жыл бұрын

@@brooklynvlogs9396 Guess what, it's still fantasy! There's also a clear difference between me using fiction with some realistic elements to show scientific predictions, and entirely fictional mediums to show real people in fake works. Oh, and please tell me how Wolfenstein 2 is "semi fiction." Also you clearly missed the sarcasm in that first sentence. It was never intended to be an actual argument, it's too absurd. Just like your arguments. As well as none of those things you said your book "predicted" being, what was it? Ah yes "scientific understands that we've only recently finding out to be true through modern scientific testing." Where are the scientific breakthroughs? Cause those examples look like social changes that ENTIRELY depend on feelings/emotion and can easily change, and thus mean absolutely nothing as "predictions"

@brooklynvlogs9396

5 жыл бұрын

@@thederogativeworld um no the Bible talks about Relativity, Atoms, explains to us that the earth is round at a time when people thought it was flat, and plantly of other stuff. But I'd like to know why you think The Bible is semi fantasy, tell me some of the stuff you think is fantasy, cause it's certainly possible that you misunderstand it.

Atheism is not a religion. Just as bald isn't a hair colour.

@andrewsealey2236

3 жыл бұрын

Religion is a belief just as Atheism is a belief ergo Atheism in itself is a form a religion. To say otherwise is to believe in nothing.

@sonicfan4511

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsealey2236 Atheism is a lack of belief in one concept. I don't believe in aliens, is that a religion too?

@astronomenov99

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsealey2236 the clue is in the noun 'theism' I.e. belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes in the universe. I am a naturalist, I don't believe in anything supernatural. If alien life exists, it (they) will follow the natural laws of the universe. Scientific principles and laws will apply. They may be so far advanced as to appear 'godlike' to the theists. Who, let's be honest, only 250 years ago, burnt amateur midwives as 'witches'.

@andrewsealey2236

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxreidxx2362 I classify myself as an agnostic humanist. An agnostic believes 'human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist'. Humanism which is a ' life stance that embraces human reason, secular ethics, and philosophical naturalism while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, and superstition as the basis of morality and decision making' I may at some stage or another find irrefutable evidence to change this view either way and will inevitably lead to a evidence based belief that nether religion or atheism cannot satisfy.

@andrewsealey2236

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonicfan4511 What would you define 'Scientology' as. Although I don't subscribe to beliefs it is accepted as a religious movement. Any belief that believes in some higher order way or another can be, regarded as a religious belief. Why would it nor be considered to be acceptable to have a belief in aliens as a following a some form of higher order. Even Nazism can be construed as a religion especially with its fascination with the occult. In a modern twist American republicanism could also be considered an religion based on some of the beliefs they align themselves with.

What will you tell your children? To act with kindness, compassion, and rationality.

@eenpersoonlijkeuitnodiging6028

2 жыл бұрын

Talking about rationality: Our thinking only make sense if God is there as the Maker and Sustainer of our brains. For mere chemical reactions cannot be trusted more that a bottle of coke

@mountairyforjesus

2 жыл бұрын

By what standard?

@damn754

Жыл бұрын

@@mountairyforjesus it doesn't need a standard

@damn754

Жыл бұрын

@@eenpersoonlijkeuitnodiging6028 they are also bad things written in the bible like sexist verses written in the new testament, not everyone agrees that men are superior to women, so why should a god tell me what to do, when he is wrong?

@mountairyforjesus

Жыл бұрын

@@damn754 Okay, then it is just as well to not act with kindness, compassion and rationality...

I believe in the House of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

@Ropetrick6

2 жыл бұрын

Satanic Temple for me, but we do enjoy our noodly comrades!

@judithbello8903

2 жыл бұрын

If you go to 350 brodway castleton ave you will see the flying spaghetti monste

@davebrokenshire1086

2 жыл бұрын

Oh he's got a house now? Onwards and upwards!

@chanzijun5247

2 жыл бұрын

R'amen

@lol5776

2 жыл бұрын

@@chanzijun5247 R'amen brother!

The worst argument i've heard was "you're actually a non-practicing catholic, there's no way out of the church!!!" Culty

@EC-sl9dm

3 жыл бұрын

you know what they say..."once a catholic always a catholic". What they don't say, is they couldn't care less whether or not you believe or not. They just want you against God.

@eustab.anas-mann9510

3 жыл бұрын

Culty is killing ex-believers (cf. Islam)

@baizhuwaitingroom7057

3 жыл бұрын

as someone coming from a catholic country I hate it so much! I'm not catholic and I never signed up for this, them forcing that identity onto me makes my blood boil. I got baptised without my consent as an infant and now there's no way to make the Church remove my personal data from their archives even if I apostate, they're literally above the law.

@scarletstarlet773

3 жыл бұрын

@@baizhuwaitingroom7057 i feel you, looks the same in my case, i'm Polish, baptised and raised catholic as a child simply because it's the default here, my family isn't even that religious

@ashdoeslife1794

3 жыл бұрын

In the philipines its a lot worse even kids basically ridicule you for not the believing at a young age because that occured to me my friends literally prayed I would become a theist again basically Atheists there are a minority

"Is atheism a religion?" - "Is 'by foot' a car brand?"

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

1. Atheism is a religion. Any time you have an "ism" it is a religion if you broaden the definition a bit (ie, contains dogma, advocacy, does battle with opposing viewpoints). 2. It might be.

@jackmatthewtyson

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 So if you don't have a car, you DO have one?

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackmatthewtyson If I don't have a car, then I don't have a car, but I might still have "one" depending on what is being enumerated. There is no law to prevent a car brand "By Foot" which would be interesting, somewhat like the Chevy Nova (No Go!)

@jackmatthewtyson

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 So if you have no interest in football and never played football and you never will, you are a footballplayer of a team existing from people who don't play football?

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackmatthewtyson Yes, something like that. A team that is not a team; where members that have no knowledge of other team members nevertheless speak for the team. When I was in the Navy one of my co-workers decided to form a club. It had no officers, but in order to be a club it had to have officers. So there was a Non-President, a Non-Treasurer and a Non-Charter that defined many things we did not do.

As a Pagan witch... I'm perfectly fine with the fact there might be no deities at all. I just like to think there's something out there, ya know? This is just something I'll find out once I die because I simply don't know.

@lurji

2 жыл бұрын

being a pagan and a witch is the biggest larp lol

@aryanshah4703

Жыл бұрын

@@lurji why?

@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees

Жыл бұрын

This right here. Thats why i cant fault religions. Theres a comfort there. I want to believe. I just don't. Im quite jealous of believers sometimes. If i could just believe, i would.

@Super-BallSharp

Жыл бұрын

​@@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees Paganism is a faith and a set of philosophies, not a religion.

@billpetersen298

6 ай бұрын

If you weigh more than a duck. Watch out for the torches and pitchforks.

as an atheist who grew up in a semi-strict, mostly-relaxed christian-religious setting, not all theists are over imposing of their beliefs, I would consider myself lucky on that front. I was free to choose my path, but I know others are not so lucky, and I send good vibes to those in hopes that things get better.

"But what about Zeus and Ra and the godess of life and fertility? How can you be sure those don't exist but your god does?" "No, those are fake gods. I'm talking about the real God." Sure thing pal

@doorbladder5735

4 жыл бұрын

What about the 3 god cards, Ravioli, Ham, and Urine?

@andrewprahst2529

4 жыл бұрын

The abrahamic God is more of a philosophic concept in modern day understanding rather than the ancient superhero characters that are called god's in other cultures. Even though we use the same word, they're pretty different ideas. You might be able to compare God with some Buddhist concepts of higher power, but at that point it's more just different attempts at describing something fundamental rather than one disproving another.

@stuff5757

4 жыл бұрын

What makes you think all the other God's ar efake but the one that you first learned about and the first God you were told to worship is true? There's over 4k religions on this planet, and each one of them says that their God is real. If your God was real wouldn't you think way more people would change religions?

@andrewprahst2529

4 жыл бұрын

Stuff Poster What even is your argument?

@stuff5757

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewprahst2529 my point is that there are thousands of religion and each one makes the same points. "This is the one true religion" "Our God is the real God" "All other religions are fake" etc. If there was oen true religion, wouldn't there be a lot of people converting to it? Wouldn't there be physical evidence for the existence of the one true God? It's like giving 10 people an ice-cream, each person has a different flavor and each one says "This is the best ice-cream on the planet" and will refuse to think otherwise.

"Atheists hate God. " How can you hate something we don't believe exists. It would be like stating those who do believe in God hate the tooth fairy.

@rumpelstilzz

3 жыл бұрын

I, as an atheist, DO hate god. The mere concept of it. If there WAS a god (which I am quite happy there isn't) he was our worst enemy by definition. If there is a LORD, then WE are his subject. If there is a master, we are slaves. If GOD is anything good, WE are everything bad. Yes, one can hate someone else he does not believe to exist. Like Ramsay Bolton*. *chosen that one, because just like the biblical god, he's a fictional antagonist from a written story. And comparing those two by their deeds, I'd rather meet Ramsay.

@Llortnerof

3 жыл бұрын

@@rumpelstilzz *You* hate a god. Atheists as a whole do not. But that's one of the problems, atheists are a very heterogenous group, any generalist statement outside of the obvious "They don't believe in gods" is unlikely to be accurate.

@chaoticevilwinds6669

3 жыл бұрын

Good comment! Its funny and you have a good point!

@aarush3603

3 жыл бұрын

They're confusing atheism with misotheism.

@enmasenpai38

3 жыл бұрын

Ok my not believing God exist came after hating

My favourite was "Why don't you just admit that you do believe in God but you just hate him so you pretend to be atheist"

@cachehoward2852

4 ай бұрын

Hah! I'm a pagan, but they'd be right. The Christian god is depicted in the Bible as a reprehensible monster. Why would I worship that when there's easily thousands of other, far better gods depicted in other stories?

Irony: i am an atheist and i want hell to exist even i know it doesn't because i want to punish the guy who added letters to math.

@KisekiGamer1

2 жыл бұрын

I don't so much mind the letters, it's when you start using the Greek alphabet and random squiggles.

@Ropetrick6

2 жыл бұрын

@@KisekiGamer1 Pi? It's complicated in that it's unending, but you can just summarize it as 3.14 for the vast majority of thing, and 3.14159 gives you even more degrees of accuracy for when it's necessary. same thing with the other letters meaning constant but continuing numbers. But the problem arises when I have to use that triangle bastard, sure it's a "letter", but come on, It's a triangle! It's a geometric shape!

@KisekiGamer1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ropetrick6 don't so much mind pi. Have you ever walked past a physics major student's study area? That stuff is scary!

@rainsan1898

Жыл бұрын

Quran ad-dhariyat 47: We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺. Quran al-anbya: Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? There is more scientific stuffs in Quran you can search

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

11 ай бұрын

@@KisekiGamer1 At least the squiggles are good for making faces. ^_^

“Atheists believe the world came out of nothing.” Wrong. We’re just willing to admit we don’t know where it came from and that we are not convinced by the explanations offered by a century-old work of literature. We keep exploring. That’s all. Simple.

@Nathan-tg4gu

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting how you speak for all atheists. Are there not atheists who believe in a universe from nothing? Clearly you don't, but atheism being the non-religion that it is should have a diverse set of viewpoints, right?

@stevemswendy86

4 жыл бұрын

So if you admit you don't know where it comes from why do u act as if God is not a possibility???? You don't have proof he does not exist.

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevemswendy86 What about mega anti god? Equally valid. Anti god punishes everyone who just follows orders from god. Prove he doesn't exist. That's the problem with that point. Ad now we haven't even addressed super ultra anti god, don't get me started with that fella, very unpleasant. He wants you to drink nothing but pickle juice. Or else you will be boiled in it in the eternal afterlife that can't be proven.

@stevemswendy86

4 жыл бұрын

@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece anti God is the devil.

@stevemswendy86

4 жыл бұрын

Hell's existence makes sense. If a judge here on Earth was to let a criminal go that committed grand theft auto he would be looked as an unjust judge not a righteous judge. Adolf Hitler killed millions of Jews because they were Jewish and then offed himself. Tell me where is the Justice for those people. Sin should be punished. God came in form of man to redeem mankind back to himself and die for the sins of the world. What makes a person miss heaven is not believing in the only one that died for the sins if the world. His name is Jesus. Everybody has sinned except Jesus because he was God in man. If you want to know what God is like it's in the person of Jesus. People need a savior. Can't be justified without him.

As a Christian, I don't understand why other Christians shame atheist, didn't the bible said to spread love and not hatred. Showing hatred is a way of deglorifying God, by showing hatred towards atheist, others will view that this religion is full of hypocrites, unloving people, which in turn pushes atheist away rather than making them closer towards God. My whole point is showing hatred will not help people go towards God. Because the main goal is to pull others towards God through love.

@kurtzipagan6704

3 жыл бұрын

Same man,I'm gonna comment about this also,I'm a Christian and I don't blame why other atheist hate some Christians because some Christians force our religion to other people instead of spreading love to all people as that Jesus wants us to do,stay safe always and God bless

@marcoantunes1813

3 жыл бұрын

Im not Christian and I am so glad to have you saying that, truly, it makes me feel really better

@ssjcrafter8842

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure in the bible there is a saying called "the path was before the bible" or something(rough translation, not American nor English) which basically means "being a good person is more important then being religious" Then again, the bible changes between religions, even if they're about the same god and the same thing...

@kurtzipagan6704

3 жыл бұрын

@@ssjcrafter8842 it's not the religion or God is the problem,it's the community, that's all stay safe always and God bless!

@ssjcrafter8842

3 жыл бұрын

@@kurtzipagan6704 1) I know, that's what I tried to say, sorry if you misunderstood 2) I still don't believe in god but thanks

the promise of heaven would be really great if some of the people that are there cared enough to give a review

@bepis_lord7883

2 ай бұрын

Heaven ⭐⭐⬛⬛⬛ Top reviews: "Eh it's alright, I'll never see my family again, and none of my friends will be allowed in, but at least I can play basketball forever" ⭐⭐⭐⬛⬛ "No booze" ⭐⬛⬛⬛⬛ "Literally can't do anything, it's all banned because it's a 'sin'. We can't even use profanity!" ⭐⬛⬛⬛⬛

“You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, "When you're done, I'm going to punish you." If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your god.” - Tracie Harris

@you-in5iy

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. That kind of God is an all powerful God. Many Gods don't have that absolute power

@mcsuck1

2 жыл бұрын

@@you-in5iy I mean, in the majority of cases today people describe or write about their God as an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent necessary being. If that kind of deity couldn't stop a person from raping a child, then it either doesn't exist or people are making up this being's properties.

@fifervonpiper6707

Жыл бұрын

@@you-in5iy If a "God" can't be bothered to save people despite being written as "omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent" then it doesn't have the right to be called one.

“Even if He sent down angels, they would still refused God’s existence” Yeah, because God didn’t come down, angels did

@BramLastname

3 жыл бұрын

This is also such a stupid argument, Because people can just say: "If it ever happens I'll call you immediately" And move on with their lives.

@rishnix

3 жыл бұрын

And I bet if an angel visited you you'd deny its existence and call it an alien.

@danielbellick3518

3 жыл бұрын

Aliens are far more likely to exist than god.

@Tbird1945

3 жыл бұрын

@@rishnix most likely. like daniel said, I'm way more inclined to believe in aliens that god

@harkalyjonas

3 жыл бұрын

You are IN God. You may have had enough shitty converters if you think God is Skydaddy.

I tried to prove the Bible was true. That's how I became an atheist

@Nathan-tg4gu

4 жыл бұрын

That's interesting actually. Generally if you want to know if a belief is true, a somewhat effective method is to try everything you can to prove yourself wrong, and if that fails, you're probably right. (If x is false, y result will probably occur > y does not occur > x is probably not false).

@PURPLE.REIGN.1999

4 жыл бұрын

I listened to a lot of pastors at a LOT of bible studies, then I kept having even more questions, because they sure have a lot of interpretations of the same thing. Like in Genesis, one guy says there were people before Adam and Eve, but they were like prototype kind of people. ??? One guy says Jews won't go to hell even if they don't accept Christ, because God favors them, one guys says all people will go to hell if they don't accept Jesus, one lady pastor says once saved always saved, another says, you can lose your salvation after being saved, same guy has a play that shows someone smoking cigs and going to hell. Some people say women can preach, some say no, it's against the Bible. WTF! And this is all in the same protestant sect. I'm like WTF is wrong with this.

@leyrua

4 жыл бұрын

I eventually became an atheist, ironically, because I was a fan of Greek mythology as a kid. The first hint that something smelled fishy was when I read about how the sons of Poseidon could walk on water. Basically, the children of each Greek god inherit a specific innate superpower, kind of like the X-Men. Water-walking for the sons of Poseidon, super strength for the sons of Zeus, etc. Secondary powers required divine intervention. The sons of Poseidon needed to yell for daddy if they wanted to _breathe_ water. And the sons of Zeus had to ask their daddy for a lightning strike. And then I thought about how Jesus supposedly walked on water, and I imagined a conversation where the Christian was being told about the powers of the sons of Poseidon, and countered with "Uh, our guy could do that too!" "My god is bigger than your god." That was when the leak sprung that gradually let all of my faith dribble out of the tank.

@EEE-kg3vy

4 жыл бұрын

Story of my life

@timtam3730

4 жыл бұрын

@@EEE-kg3vy I read stuff about evolution and its just bonkers. At the time, it was used to explain how Africans were more closely related to monkeys on the humanoid evolutionary spectrum and lead to some serious racist stuff like human zoos! And thats why I am a Christian, because the way the way the bible depicts the creation of humans is far more easier for me to understand and far less racist for that matter. Science is all about looking at the possibilities rather than caging ourselves with facts. Because facts can always be disproven in the next thirty or forty years. I mean, look at freakin Einstein! He opened up a whole new way of looking at reality and that was because he was always looking at possiblities.

My favorite phrase someone has used to try and argue with me was: “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist.” It’s so simple, but it’s amazing because I always get to clap back with: “You can’t prove God does.”

@SouperWy

Жыл бұрын

@@markwitcombe2119 So why is it our responsibility to provide evidence for you? We don’t think he exists, why would we believe anything that you say comes out of his mouth? Also, you can’t cite the Bible dude, there is zero evidence that it was actually a truthful story, and even less evidence that your God wrote it.

@SouperWy

Жыл бұрын

@@markwitcombe2119 … Okay, and? You haven’t proven anything.

@Skyfoogle

Жыл бұрын

@@markwitcombe2119 athiests typically do not assert there is no god. the one who asserts there is a god carries the burden of proof.

Maybe not the worst but the most annoyingly often repeated by my Christial friends: "Atheists refuse to believe in God, because if they had to believe, they would need to change their lives."

As a theist, I so appreciate the tone of your videos. Clear, concise, and empathetic. Many theist KZreadrs could take a lesson from you.

@honesty1234

3 жыл бұрын

As an atheist I appreciate the tone of your comment.

@godbutbased6863

3 жыл бұрын

As an atheist, pog

@welldonesir3996

3 жыл бұрын

As a Christian, I hope the people he criticize realize his existence.

@galactorsus_i.n.c

3 жыл бұрын

Although im against religion (unless it's not influencing as much as it now and is a choice) i do respect the people who follow it. I've talked with some theists and some constantly made excuses (i showed bible verses which are disturbing in nature from the old testament from non censored bible versions) and other said although they don't fully believe in the bible that the Faith in god gave them rest they need. Which i can understand since the world can be stressful for people. I think religion can help people but it shouldn't be forced and shouldn't influence area's of society which the future relies on. (science, education, law, government, politics and so on). I don't think the majority of religions people these days are bad, they just choose to follow it and use it actually make themselves better and live free.

@welldonesir3996

3 жыл бұрын

@@galactorsus_i.n.c Read Paul Copan’s Book, “Is God a Moral Monster.” It may answer some questions.

Ok, ok. I hear you, how bout... You take a few minutes to hear about our Lord and Savior Robert Speedwagon

@livingfailure6092

4 жыл бұрын

Waifu*

@DarthJarJarEnthusiast

4 жыл бұрын

Speedwagon san’s abs, worthy of worship

@th3hyp3g0d8

4 жыл бұрын

Is that a JoJo reference, here?

@dpage446

4 жыл бұрын

REO Speedwagon is the one and only God

@catharinakapp1442

4 жыл бұрын

This guy gets it

"Atheists believe everything came from nothing" Didn't God just *appear * one day? From nothing?

@gabrielherasterol9214

Жыл бұрын

And then make everything out of nothing? Theist often say the energy and hydrogen that caused the big bang makes no sense, but look at the way god just wills something into existence.

One of the things I hate is just “we don’t need proof we have faith” like no, I have faith that a guy named blorblog the ancient is standing right next to me, i don’t need to see him, I have faith he’s there

@billystokes3917

2 жыл бұрын

Have faith in blorblog. If you do not accept him into your heart he will eat your dreams when you sleep until you inevitably die and get sent to blogland.

@pastorofmuppets9346

2 жыл бұрын

yeah blorblog is actually kinda nice once you get to know him

@arcadeinvader8086

2 жыл бұрын

the virgin jesus wants you to believe in him smol muscles you could see him before he died gross crown of thorns vs the chad blorblog loves you no matter what you believe in jacked & lifts every day still alive & invisible sweet-ass shades

@mountairyforjesus

2 жыл бұрын

What is your proof that we should live by proof?

@sabinamakubo926

Жыл бұрын

@@mountairyforjesus proof is the proof that we should live by proof

I love getting told, "I'll pray for you." I'm like, "I bet that's hard."

@decam5329

3 жыл бұрын

I usually respond with, "So the war and famine stuff taking a back seat?"

@calebbalzer4518

3 жыл бұрын

Hey now, they are extending well wishes to you. Even if you don’t believe, that’s something right?

@Lopfff

3 жыл бұрын

@@calebbalzer4518 That is a good point, and it complicates the issue. But if somebody tells me "I'm going to get my pet dragon to help you, just hang in there until the dragon arrives," I'm going to feel a bit insulted.

@canvas_125

3 жыл бұрын

It’s so patronizing. I usually think: everyone else in my life has tried, but have fun wasting your time.

@bilbenken1

3 жыл бұрын

Prayer: The absolute least you can do.

You are missing the point. Theists aren't trying to convert you, they're trying to stop themselves from deconverting.

@CrunchyDark

5 жыл бұрын

Nicely put

@BrianGay57

5 жыл бұрын

krillin6 This is exactly the conclusion I have come to. Apologetics was never intended for converting non-believers. It is a defense mechanism designed to help doubting believers, and hence need not be all that convincing. It’s target audience “wants” to believe. They use childhood indoctrination, and love bombing people who are down and out for proselytizing quite effectively. Believers think that apologetics arguments are quite convincing because they already want to believe.

@historicalbiblicalresearch8440

5 жыл бұрын

Faith seems to be a leaky bucket they need it to topped up continuously

@zilmore5712

5 жыл бұрын

Theists have good intentions behind converting reason being they want you to be save.

@khymaaren

5 жыл бұрын

I always think of 'converting' to atheism as 'waking up'. Enlightenment, as others would call it. And who the hell wants to go back into the dark once they come out of it?

The universe is way way way way way way way more interesting without religious glasses

@eglelt219

2 жыл бұрын

I would disagree. To me even just trying to understand what eternity truly means messes up my brain completely. Just what else is there that isn't visible to the human eye? Or just simply how the heck was the brain formed? How..what..what even.. WHY WHY ARE WE HERE

@CreatureDomain

2 жыл бұрын

@@eglelt219 Those are not proofs of God existing. Mysterious things should not be proofs of human concepts.

@mikeygarcia8271

2 жыл бұрын

You know what element you're missing in the equation ? The Biblical prophecy is the element that is missing, something that other religions can't claim to possess. Not only did the Jews survive more than two thousand years of threats of annihilation and persecution but the fate of this group of people has been disclosed in prophecies thousands of years ago. Many of which have been fulfilled, others are being fulfilled currently and a few have yet to be fulfilled. Case in point: 1ST---More than thousands of years ago, God said that the Jewish people will be scattered in all four corners of the world - check! 2nd---They will return to their homeland , to be specific- to a desolate land - check! [ Mark Twain, during his visit to Israel 150 years ago described the holy land as a desolate land that even cactus could hardly grow ] Israel has been one of the top exporters of agricultural products in the world..heck it even the Netherlands, the number 1 exporter of flowers worldwide even import flowers from Israel. 3rd----They will make the land prosperous- check! considering the fact that israel was such a small country, mostly dessert, had no oil nor gas during the first 5 decades of existence..[it was etablished in 1948 btw} and always in constant threats of annihilation as they were surrounded by enemy countries. 4th---Think about this...God made a promise that He will preserve them as a separate people until the end of days despite thousands of years of being scattered in all parts of the globe - check! I have been in Israel and you will see Jews from Africa, Asia, Europe, Middle East, etc..People who came to Israel from all countries of the world and yet their identity remained intact...that is nothing short of a miracle..a fulfillment of prophecy made thousands of years ago. and that's just a few of the reasons why it is wise to seek God with all your heart to prove His existence....all you have to do is ask Him..come to Him in humility and He will reveal Himself to you.

@ismailmounsif1109

Жыл бұрын

Interesting but not true and it will never be true the knowledge of the universe is beyond your knowledge fool

@MorganHorse

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

The irony is that they COULD convert us if they actually had any evidence.

@istoner

4 ай бұрын

Tbf i think most atheists don't engage with sophisticated religious thinkers and instead just watch videos like this that confirm their biases, or watch videos of dumb Christians. (Same with religious people, vice versa). Most people are super hesitant to really listen to arguments that go against a core element of their self image/tribal belief

@alexkromkowski3006

2 күн бұрын

Are you familiar with Cold Case Christianity? There's a website & various resources under that name, but IMHO, the book is the best. It's all from an atheist cold case homicide detective, who applied his evidence-based approach to determining truth from fiction...and as the title suggests, his belief in Christ comes from the evidence. Look up God's Not Dead--Courtroom Scene for a 5-minute intro for how carefully examined evidence leads to belief...and the book is much more thorough than 5 minutes could be.

The only being I believe in is our Lord, Savior, and Master of the High Ground, General Kenobi

@friedchickenera

3 жыл бұрын

All hail general kenobi

@swedisheagle3182

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@rafetizer

3 жыл бұрын

That took quite the unexpected turn.

@gibsogden8216

3 жыл бұрын

They had us in the first half ngl

@McOuroborosBurger

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

You forgot, “I’ll pray for you.” Thanks, but no thanks.

@unknown81360

5 жыл бұрын

I hate it when my mother says this. It hurts

@jonathanschaffer2594

5 жыл бұрын

Random - Or, “You’re an atheist? Haha, look who’s going to hell”

@yourmoms5602

5 жыл бұрын

Fine you can pray for me . . . I'll think for you.

@schneidy81

5 жыл бұрын

@platinaire - why would you not want prayer? I find it interesting that some atheists are bothered by prayer.

@yourmoms5602

5 жыл бұрын

@schneidy81 For the same reason I don't want people beheading chickens and dancing around in their blood, or any other silly superstition that takes the place of actually doing something useful.

I live in Europe. Here it's actually pretty normal being an atheist.

@joejohnson6327

Жыл бұрын

America is so fucking weird.🥴

the most common argument I have ever heard is "the book says so"

@IdkMaestro

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and No When the book defendes them is good When the bool defendes Everyone else NO

@IdkMaestro

2 жыл бұрын

@Andri oi dont steal my name xD

@BlueRadium

4 ай бұрын

Sitting down and actually just reading a holy text by yourself tends to be the best way to leave your religion. I can't claim I know for all of them, just left Christianity that way. Church skips the 95% of the book where God carefully walks you through why slavery is a-ok, how to do it, and the like. Reading the Bible it's okay to skip over the full pages that just list off lineages, doesn't matter much 😅 but beyond that. Figuring out "whoops, been praying to a childish psychopath" by way of just reading is a solid step 1 for leaving. Christians don't really listen to their God thank goodness, but still, knowing all of it you need to be pretty dang morally bankrupt to stick around.

@laravioliiii2832

15 күн бұрын

I usually say stuff like "Yeah, and that book also supports slavery." Ephesians 6:5

"Atheist is a person who knows more about your religion than you do. That is why he is an atheist". I don't remember who said it, but well said...

@Bigghewi

5 жыл бұрын

That's genuinely ignorant.. It's no more than an assumption that is implying all theist have no understanding of their religions.. If you're white and tell a black dude he doesn't know shit about being black he'll likely reply by saying you obviously know nothing...

@ivanstepanovic1327

5 жыл бұрын

@@Bigghewi OK... So, God creates 2 humans; Adam and Eve. Than they have 2 sons, Cain and Abel. Then Cain Kills Abel. So, how were all other humans created? Who slept with who in order to create them all? Why are there different races if all come from one and the same? Or, a guy builds a boat and puts all animals on it and then after watter pulls back, he taxis them back to each continent? Or maybe how God full of love and mercy sends a death to kill all first born sons, lamb's blood etc? Or maybe another religion, one founded by a warlord who married a six-year old girl and "consumed the marriage" when she was nine? The religion that states "why seek peace when you have the upper hand", calls for "holy war" and say it's OK to kill those who don't share your beliefs? C'mon...

@Bigghewi

5 жыл бұрын

@@ivanstepanovic1327 I'm familiar with the teachings of man, they made me atheist..The God of the old testament is a jealous, and vengeful God. The God if the new testament is a hippie.. Most people also think Jesus was the only son of Mary and Joseph. Islam and Catholicism are corrupt echoes of the Bible and Torah, which are but small shreds of truths filled with the contradictions of man. We still live the same as we did thousands of years ago.. Arguing economics, religion, and even the shape of the earth, while most are oblivious of truth.

@skavies2351

5 жыл бұрын

@@ivanstepanovic1327 Adam and Eve had 3 sons, Cain, Able and Seth. Adam was the first named man on the planet, but not the first. On the sixth day, go created man and woman and gave them dominion over all he created(genesis 1:26 read up and down a little for context). On the seventh, he fished his work and rested (genesis 2:2 read down for more context). Part of that finishing was to create the garden of Eden and Adam and Eve. This is what the Vatican wants us to believe anyway. www.vatican.va/archive/bible/genesis/documents/bible_genesis_en.html. This of course is open to interpretation because the bible seems to skip around in time saying things like "before the rivers/plants (depending on version) sprung to life.. god gathered dust to make Adam. So it's a little fuzzy on whether Adam was created on day 7 or much earlier. The bible goes through so much direct time this happened, then this, then this, then this... But before maybe this happened or maybe not because something happened day 7 other than rest, which strongly implies gardening, but it happened on day 7 before water was added on day 1 or vegetation on day 2, so... It is that confusing if you actually read it. I simply call bullshit.

@skavies2351

5 жыл бұрын

Oh and if you really want to screw with their belief, don't argue with them. Have them explain any of the common bible stories. The Flood is good, so is creation, doesn't really matter what, but something big so they are comfortable talking to you. Ask questions, but not ones meant to trip them up. Get them used to explaining but not defensive. So avoid asking how Noah built an Ark with his family needing 2 thousand man work years when those idiots made the Ark Experience with power tools and heavy equipment (yea that took 2 thousand man work years with modern technology).... Ask how he fed the animals, that's not too threatening, and let them off the hook with whatever they say. You want them to expect you to ask hard questions, but accept what they say so they are not threatened by those questions and are willing to help you understand. Then get something from Deuteronomy and have them explain that to you. (Deuteronomy is one of the books of the bible and the source for nearly all of the "god is a fucking asshole way worse than Hitler and Genghis Khan multiplied together" stories. Dashing infants into the rocks(throwing babies at the ground to kill them) is what god wants you to do... Go rape your neighbors daughter then kill her for being a whore... This book is fantastic for breaking beliefs if you can get someone to try to explain it).

The worst argument is “you’re just angry with god and secretly believe in him”. This statement automatically discredits itself. If you don’t actually believe in god, hearing someone say this shows that they are factually incorrect, they’re trying to convince you of your own thoughts.

@stickiedmin6508

3 жыл бұрын

I've been told that a few times. My response is, "Which god?"

@stickiedmin6508

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hariester Why would I say that though? Him? Her? It? Them? They're accusing me of hating something, and I'm trying to get them to see that I have no idea whatsoever which something they're talking about. There are thousands of the things, apparently. I don't know if I hate their god because, at this point, I don't know for certain whether I've even *_heard_* of the one they're talking about. It's like someone saying, "You hate food because you don't eat it even though you secretly like how it tastes!" Which food? I don't know which one they're talking about.

@Hariester

3 жыл бұрын

@@stickiedmin6508 let's be honest here. If they say "him" then it's 99% Abrahamic god. And that it's fictional character doesn't mean that you wouldn't hate it. There's many fictional characters that I honestly hate.

@Rhaenarys

3 жыл бұрын

I usually call them out for heresy when they try that. After all, how else would they know my thoughts and beliefs better than me if they werent witches or servants of the devil in some way? Most of the time they shut up lol.

@stickiedmin6508

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rhaenarys OO! Sneaky!

"You can't prove God doesn't exist!" It's sorta like "innocent until proven guilty." I'm not going to believe in god until you can prove he exists. I shouldn't have to prove he doesn't.

Why do theists use "arguments" Who tf is gonna turn to faith after losing an argument?

You also forgot "the devil is inside you"

@daanstrik4293

5 жыл бұрын

Streaks gonne go to Court and claim the devil violated me. Lets see how it holds up

@plowenson

4 жыл бұрын

A Christian girl once told me that. I unzipped my pants and she swallowed that devil 😛

@jimboanimations4041

4 жыл бұрын

lol someone told me that in this comment section

@ismt9390

4 жыл бұрын

LOL, my dad legit wanted to take me to an exorcist. I wish i was joking.

@jimboanimations4041

4 жыл бұрын

@@ismt9390 lol you should of accepted, then after the exorsism just ssy your still an atheist, what is he gonna do now?

I think you secretly do believe in Santa Claus. You only reject him because you wanna be naughty.

@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha

@IsomerMashups

5 жыл бұрын

And what if I do wanna be naughty? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@GameArchon215

5 жыл бұрын

Isomer Mashups Then you shall get COAL IN YOUR STOCKING FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@nbgoodiscore1303

5 жыл бұрын

@@GameArchon215 Thanks, now I can cook my Turkey.

@nbgoodiscore1303

5 жыл бұрын

@Keylanos Lokj I honestly never think about god, that's something that doesn't bother me. Its much easier santa to exist than god. There could actually be someone very rich who helped the poor every year.

I think you're so right that it'd help for theists to get more educated about the spectrum of atheism, outside of the voices and presumptions within their faith group. It's open up so much room for discussion and co-learning.

My friend tried the following to convince me: 1) "I was adopted" 2) A link leading to a fact checking site that disproved what they were saying.

As an Atheist in Germany, I had a Muslim calling me antichrist in Catholic Religion class in school. It was hilarious. 😂

@drjohnestacio9645

4 жыл бұрын

Hilarious but a Fact!

@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786

4 жыл бұрын

Das hätte ich gerne gesehen

@cua2279

4 жыл бұрын

@@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786 ich auch XD

@livingfailure6092

4 жыл бұрын

The Antichrist is real! It's the biggest thread of the world!!! 😡😡

@connorcyberlife6775

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus 666 Is this a joke?

I mean the dude isn't wrong, if I would suddenly see angels I would definitely question my mental health and not my atheism

@yasyasmarangoz3577

3 жыл бұрын

loo

@billystokes3917

2 жыл бұрын

I'd act like Scrooge when he saw Marley's ghost at his house. Probably some indigestion.

@CarlaCavenagui

2 жыл бұрын

Sane

@CarlaCavenagui

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@cyanadofai

2 жыл бұрын

@@CarlaCavenagui lmao this typo is funny in the context of the original comment

Nah, praying and going to church several times a week is tedious. If i need help i will do things with my capable hands. Adversity invigorates me more. This videos solidified my ideas and thoughts about gods and religion. Its time i put my faith on myself and real people i can trust. Thank you for sharing.

I understand your evolved more level headed approach now, but man since I’ve found you when I come across your older videos that have a snarky segment I love it so much. Lol

@user-ps5qh4qn5x

Жыл бұрын

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.islamreligion.com/ebooks/islam-guide.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiO9er3jcf9AhUfgv0HHcQaAsgQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jCmIqCXpRo-EZaG-rlWde

Most theistic arguments go like this: "There are mysteries about life and existence that we cannot understand yet, so therefore God." Makes no sense whatsoever.

@e4ehco21

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite example of both a black and white fallacy and an argument from ignorance

@nataliaborys1554

3 жыл бұрын

My favourite counter argument to that is "well, turns out the Sun isn't pulled up by a chariot". Just because we don't understand something, it doesn't mean it's magic

@enmasenpai38

3 жыл бұрын

@@nataliaborys1554 true

@cyndrift

3 жыл бұрын

and then whenever god can't explain something or becomes logically inconsistent, they just say he 'works in mysterious ways'. so even if you're looking for a one size fits all solution to the gaps in science and modern cosmology, god aint it. Might as well just believe in pure science at that point.

@enmasenpai38

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyndrift yeah I hate it because they just denied there own argument * I actually hate the fact that we humans Dont even believe in ourselves

You’re a part of the important pieces that bridge the gap between cultures and races brotha keep spreading positive vibes regardless of the topic ya know? I love it man🎉

@user-rp5ye7uc6d

Жыл бұрын

‏Anthony Flew is considered one of the most prominent atheists, so he retracted his atheism and told us that the universe has a deity with modern scientific evidence, not with thought or dreams and feeling, but after science and modern discoveries about the existence of a Creator. He fell into another problem that the Creator wanted according to his mood ‏ He wanted the Creator to be neither speaking nor hearing, and creating creation in vain ‏But it is logical that this Creator sends a messenger to teach us who he is. And we have to verify the authenticity of the Messenger and what this Messenger calls to? ‏ It transports sperm from the liquid state to the eyes, heart, blood, arteries, and bones. Unconscious nature creates a conscious human being. Then this nature teaches about the importance of the heart and lung, then puts the rib cage, then oxygen, then water, there is sexual desire, and there are the genitals to complete the male and female sexual process. , What coincidence are you talking about, a coincidence that creates the male and the female. All of these are called verses and there are things that complement each other, there is a lung and there is air and there are teeth and stomach and in food and other things and we say that it has no creator!!! ‏ The only question God will ask you is ‏ focus on it ‏ ((He said: Did you deny My verses and did not encompass them in knowledge, or what did you do?)) ‏ I mean, God Almighty tells you what I told you is a lie and you cannot realize it or understand it ‏ And what in the world have you been doing? ‏ Do you know what your answer is? ‏ ((The decree will befall them for what they did wrong, and they will not be able to speak. ‏ If you find yourself in the world without a choice in a great reality we live in, and you go without a choice and a question is the most important ‏ If your destiny is fire, has God wronged you???ًً ‏Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, is a prophet from the Creator, and before him many prophets did not lie or deceive, and he is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator who created everything. ‏First of all, you should know that the religion of all prophets is the worship of one Creator who created everything. Islam today is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator and not idols, illusions, conjecture or a number of gods. But how do we know that the speech is from God and not from Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace? . These are some of the things that comfort your heart and believe that this is a prophet and many of the prophets before him ‏ The Almighty said: (Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke) ‏ The smoke confirms that the origin of this universe is inflamed. It is not a lake of water, as was the perception of all philosophies and religions that are based on illusion. This is one of the postulates of modern science today that the sky is condensation of smoke. This fact converted the French scientist Maurice to Islam and wrote a book entitled the Holy Qur’an on the scale of modern science ‏How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? ‏ The Almighty says: ((And the heaven We constructed)) ‏ The sky is a building, not a vacuum as it was thought, and this was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2017 that proved it ‏How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? ‏The Almighty’s saying: ((And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander. )). ‏ That is, the sky expands with time. This fact, even in the time of Einstein, was not imagined by anyone and it was proven. And Einstein admitted it and admitted that it was the biggest scientific mistake he made in his life if he believed that the sky was fixed. The Qur’an before Einstein says that the sky expands ‏fact ‏ Almighty’s saying: :((And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail. )) ‏ The verse of the night is the moon and the verse of the day is the sun. The Qur'an tells that the sun and the moon were fiery masses. That is, the moon was a fiery mass and was erased, and the verse of the day remained visible to the eyes. Was the moon a fiery mass and extinguished? This is one of the biggest scientific issues discovered about the moon. The moon was already a fiery mass, and NASA issued on its official website a conceptual clip entitled The Evolution of the Moon in the video. In fact, the moon was a fiery mass like the sun, and this is what the Qur’an told about and the truth of modern science. ‏How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? ‏Almighty’s saying ‏And you see the mountains thinking that they are rigid, while you will cross as the passage of clouds. [It is] the work of God who has perfected everything. In fact, he knows what you're doing.)) ‏ And the verse clearly spoke of a strange phenomenon, which is that the viewer of the mountains appears to him still, that is, they are still, but in fact they are not like that, rather they are in a state of constant movement. And the infidels of Quraish had previously accused our master Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, of madness, and it is likely that their joy was overwhelming when this verse was revealed. ‏ They also found in it, according to their claim, evidence of this madness, and they told the people: How can you believe this man who says that these fixed mountains move like clouds moving in the sky! ‏ And today it is proven that the earth rotates, and with it the mountains, how did Muhammad know that and why is he telling you instead of the matter that makes people consider him crazy? The matter was not from him, but from God. Almighty’s saying ‏Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe)). ‏After man was able to reach the sky by flying by modern means of transportation, he knew that the higher up in the air, the less oxygen and atmospheric pressure, which causes severe tightness in the chests and the process of breathing. : ‏How did Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, know this fact before? It was not from him, but from God . Almighty’s saying ‏Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hands, he can hardly see it! for any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light! ‏Modern sciences have revealed that in the bottom of the deep seas with abundant water - the deep sea - there is great darkness, to the extent that living creatures live in this darkness without visual tools, but live using their other senses such as hearing. ‏These dark darknesses are not found in the sea water that surrounds the Arabian Peninsula, but rather they have been discovered in the oceans far from it ‏This verse shows another aspect of the Qur’anic miracle, which is that the sea wave that all people only knew was one wave in the seas ‏The verse says there is another wave in the depths of the sea, and divers discovered at the beginning of the twentieth century a fact that was hidden in the depths of the sea, that fact that shows another wave that throws divers into it as it is thrown at swimmers, and this wave was discovered by Scandinavian divers. I will tell you what the Prophet said. The Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: One day the Bedouins who live in the desert will build tall towers, and this is my duty. Go and see where the tallest buildings are and who owns them. ‏God Almighty: ((We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?) And God informed the Qur’an of this by saying: “Did you think that we created you without a purpose and that you would never return to us?” ‏All these and other matters that I have not mentioned indicate that this is a prophet from God..More important than that, as I told you, is the only religion that commands you to worship one Creator, who created everything and before him many prophets. ‏Say, if you wish, there is no god but God, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God ‏ speak from the heart

@mikeygarcia8271

Жыл бұрын

Many well-respected, well-educated atheists have become believers after experiencing God in the Spirit realm during near-death experiences [often referred to as NDEs]. Here is a link to a short video of a Harvard-educated brain surgeon who became a believer in God after experiencing the spirit realm during his NDE. He is a brain surgeon, so he is more knowledgeable about how the mind works. He can clearly distinguish between hallucination and reality. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aH5-mq6DaKu0o7w.html

I feel like it goes both ways. Most people don't really have faith, they are just conditioned. That's why it's much easier to get out of religions than to be pulled back in (and that's why they basically keep the same behavior, just with a different target). But when you find someone who ACTUALLY believes in something it's just as hard to get them out

As a Christian, I couldn't find anything in this video that I disagreed with. Thank you for presenting your opinions in a respectful manner

@heribertosarmiento1265

4 жыл бұрын

Omar is 100% true

@dokkisse9075

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scyllax No need for the hostility

@dokkisse9075

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scyllax Oh, I know I'm an idiot, I'm just saying there's no need for the hostility.

@Scyllax

4 жыл бұрын

Lotte I’m growing in my pants.

@dokkisse9075

4 жыл бұрын

@@Scyllax Seriously dude, we get it. You can stop trying to provoke people now.

I cringe at the "atheists believe that everything came from nothing", since its The theist belief about god.

@DanielQRT

4 жыл бұрын

@Alec Chaidez exactly that's why it doesnt make sebse

@Veegs.

4 жыл бұрын

Alec Chaidez you just explained the lunacy yourself lol. why can’t the universe be eternal? makes more sense than it being spawned by an eternal being, because beings have to be made. rocks are just there

@Veegs.

4 жыл бұрын

Alec Chaidez ok, then who made god

@Veegs.

4 жыл бұрын

Alec Chaidez that’s not ‘literally the only way it could make sense’, if god could exist infinitely why can’t matter? that makes way more sense, plus, we can see matter. it can’t be created or destroyed so maybe it just is why does some human figure from an old book have to be the creator? why weren’t the egyptians right, they were first after all. we are not special, we are just organic matter, a factor of the universe. no one made rocks for us, unlike coke bottles which have an obvious function, we just made use of rocks to form tools.

@Veegs.

4 жыл бұрын

Alec Chaidez I’m not doubting a man who bore that names existence as, you are right, there are multiple historical accounts, however none state any sort of supernatural occurrences. He was likely just a preacher, which doesn’t prove anything

I used to be an atheist skeptic from 4 years till 2 years ago before that I was atheist/agnostic but it was not great for my mental health, the need to know everything the need to full on take a deep dive in every topic the need to know everything that paired with depression and my mind was absolutely shattering but when I did my research on Buddhism I saw many things I agreed in and things I still to this day believe in stuff like karma and the Buddhist philosophy and to reach enlightenment and I slowly started to lean more towards Buddhism but I would never blame anyone for not believing what I do everyone has their own opinion on things and that's something everyone should be able to accept and through my journey to Buddhism my mind got more peaceful and relaxed and eventually I even cured my depression on my own so yeah if atheism + skepticism feels right for you go for it for me it wasn't the right path tho I just wanted to share my experience and put my own 2 cents in if someone responds please stay civil and open of mind I'd be willing to discuss on any topic as long as y'all do that I will too

I'm sorry if this is rude but thatguy said, "they believe that everything came from nothing" in the clip. but.... if everything didn't come from "nothing" then where did their god come from? I mean, I don't know a lot about religion so I don't know if theres a story behind where god came from. I only really know about Norse, Greek and Egyptian mythology

@timothysheridan8134

2 жыл бұрын

Rick riordan gang lol

@dragon_user1609

2 жыл бұрын

Never expected to see fellow Rick Riordan readers here

@GumSkyloard

2 жыл бұрын

"God just is" "But can't the Universe just be?" "..."

Theists always say, that we "reject" god. But to reject somebody, you have to accept that he's an existing thing, don't you?

@somajeviczki6688

3 жыл бұрын

@Proud American But you reject the idea of a god, not got himselves, don't you?

@somajeviczki6688

3 жыл бұрын

@Proud American Fair point.

@tinodethuong

3 жыл бұрын

its like rejecting a person confessing to you that doesn't even exist.

@tinodethuong

3 жыл бұрын

@@manicmaniac_ lol

@tinodethuong

3 жыл бұрын

@@manicmaniac_ this is geniunely funny

If atheism is a religion non smokers are a type of smokers .

@MrGerdbrecht

5 жыл бұрын

Logic is not their friend, also reality.

@teachccd

5 жыл бұрын

No. There are fundamental questions that need to be answered and many times the answers involve having to believe something. An atheist still must believe things about reality that must be taken on faith unless the atheist is willing to admit that they’ve explored every part of everything that exists. So your smoker analogy falls short since that’s comparing apples to oranges.

@elu9780

5 жыл бұрын

@@teachccd uh, care to elaborate so that what you've just said makes at least some sense? "An atheist still must believe things about reality that must be taken on faith"? That is wrong. Atheism is simple - lack of belief in gods. You can't make a lack of something a presence of something. So, randomnizer's analogy works pretty well.

@damongreville2197

5 жыл бұрын

@@elu9780 Of all the knowledge there is to be had in the universe, what percentage do you think you have? Maybe 1%? Let us be generous and say it is 10%. So in your 90% ignorance can you assert that there is no God? I would be inclined to say that such a person is an arrogant fool. I think agnostics are more honest, - "I don't think there is a God, but I don't know." "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

@teachccd

5 жыл бұрын

Elu , exactly what Damon said. You must believe that something came from nothing. You must also believe that you know everything. What I wrote makes plenty of sense. You still have beliefs as an atheist. You don’t believe God exists but you believe in a whole lot of other things.

I'm a Catholic who studies science, philosophy, theology, and opera. But I've never even tried to convert anyone since only God can convert anyone. I might give an atheist some information that God could use to get the atheist to reconsider his atheism, though. Sometimes I wonder whether some Christians are bragging when they tell me how many people they "got saved." If I do something to help someone become a Catholic, I'll thank God for letting me help him and that person. But I won't take the credit for anything someone else did.

Converting me from an atheist to a theist should be simple, just provide me with sufficient good evidence to warrant belief in the existence of a god or gods. The only stumbling block I've found so far is the complete and utter lack of good evidence for the existence of a god or gods. P.S. Oops, I said this same basic thing four years ago...

How about the “you just haven’t gone to the right church! come to *MY* church! *We* do things soooo much differently than the others!” 😂😂

@kaelia1118

4 жыл бұрын

lmaoo yeah this one im screaming😂😂 and all they do is have a younger priest and a bigger schola and a renewed church😂

@chrisfalzone6061

4 жыл бұрын

And then visit their church, and Its straight up super Pentecostal and everyone babbling gibberish during worship 😂😂😂😂

@eryalmario5299

4 жыл бұрын

yeah! we'll just shame you unlike "others"

@shaunhumphreys6714

4 жыл бұрын

or 'my church has doughnuts'-that's a new thing.

@foxcell21

4 жыл бұрын

The church my parents attend have a gay couple among them, and no, they are not shamed or said they are wrong. In fact they encourage their relationship, as long as they are happy and grow their espiritual growth, that is all it matters so yeah, they all are different

“The fact that there’s a highway to hell and only a stairway to heaven says a lot about how many people they’re expecting

@pauliusmscichauskas558

4 жыл бұрын

And how god treats disabled people in wheelchairs.

@freezeburn9875

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly Christianity makes me want to go to Hell instead of heaven with those egotistical self-important brats

@leyrua

4 жыл бұрын

@@pauliusmscichauskas558 lol. I guess we can add "people in wheelchairs" to the list of people not allowed into heaven. Along with any man who's had his genitals damaged (which is kind of ironic because God also demands circumcision). Wow... God really is an able-ist, isn't he?

@henrymartins4549

4 жыл бұрын

Freezeburn 98 how are Christians egotistical? Your language just shows how hypocritical and base you are trying to fight something you’re guilty of

@freezeburn9875

4 жыл бұрын

Henry Martins cause you all think you’re important enough to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell

No one talks about the bad things theist did back in the old times where they destroy artifacts of the natives kill those who do not convert and so many more that are bad

"...care for them before you chastise them." Really important, in all human interactions. Thanks.

*Once you discover that The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz is actually only a little man pushing buttons and pulling levers behind a curtain..., you just can't go back to believing it was real...*

@DJHastingsFeverPitch

3 жыл бұрын

Or... Once you've been pulled out of the Matrix and shown "what the Matrix is" you can never go back to believing that it's anything other than a computer simulation

@coopergates9680

3 жыл бұрын

#TheraminTrees: The magic trick, once explained, can no longer deceive.

@weakness.detector

3 жыл бұрын

one of the best analogies

@fruticetum

2 жыл бұрын

And once you figure out that people who want to convince you anything goes want to profit from the collapse of society, then you won't believe their atheist lies any longer.

@royanque8374

2 жыл бұрын

@@coopergates9680 *sleight of hand enters the chat*

Wait, isn't it common practice for cults to indoctrinate followers who are going through a rough patch? 🤔

@cryofpaine

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! They love those who are vulnerable. The way a hyena loves a zebra carcass.

@NDwhITeBoYZ

3 жыл бұрын

What’s funny is every church I know has gotten new followers that are down in a rough patch desperate for anything to help their misery, the human psyche does anything it can to get comfortable.

@MagnoliaWisteria

3 жыл бұрын

WHEN GOD IS SUSSY😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣SUS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂Get it😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

@monsterbros1882

3 жыл бұрын

That’s one of the reasons why I feel most religions are just larger, more accepted cults

@NDwhITeBoYZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@monsterbros1882 they are, they’ve just been normalized by society due to being around for thousands of years

I had this experience with my great aunt two weeks ago but I managed to have us agree over the base values of love and kindness. I hadn’t been proselytized in person for years.

I am an atheist but a Hindu by birth . I read the Mahabharat and the Bhagvad Gita . It’s funny how my staunch religious friends have way lesser knowledge than me about our own mythology.

@lakshaykumar5702

Жыл бұрын

I read it thankfully....I realised that Indian religions are much more philosophical, much less destructive and proselytising than the western ones...really baffled about religion of abraham

@wafflemation6887

2 ай бұрын

@@lakshaykumar5702 as a Hindu, same.

“Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to.” - Epictetus

@kierangorman3052

3 жыл бұрын

It's the latter of the two.

@sh4dy832

3 жыл бұрын

@@kierangorman3052 then why would you follow a god that doesn't take a stand against evil?

@kierangorman3052

3 жыл бұрын

@@sh4dy832 I don't follow Him. I'm spiritual but I'm not religious so I don't carry the belief that God is all good or all evil. I think of God as being a more neutral creator figure, worthy of neither worship nor hatred. I think of God as being fundamentally opposed to organised religion and the idea of defining any one thing as objectively good or evil would be against how I perceive God. And so as God is neither good nor evil, why would He prevent or make happen any specific thing?

@royanque8374

3 жыл бұрын

@@kierangorman3052 so man invented the concept of good and evil?

@kierangorman3052

3 жыл бұрын

@@royanque8374 Essentially, yes. However, I would phrase it more as that we defined the things that we are naturally repulsed by as evil as a logical response to our emotions. I believe that ‘God’, or whatever you want to call it/Him, wants us to figure what is good and evil for ourselves. Many religious people say that evil exists because of free will and that we require free will to be truly good otherwise we would simply be slaves of God doing what He told us was good but not understanding the concept of good. I sort of agree myself but I don’t think that God has any specific definition of good laid out for us and so we have the free will to both DO GOOD as well as DEFINE GOOD.

I had a conversation with a Theist once that kept mentioning that I was "mad at God" and I "had blind faith in science". I then stopped the conversation and explained what "Atheism", "Faith" and "Evidence" meant emphasizing what "Atheism" meant just to be 100% clear. We then continued the conversation and he kept making the exact same claims so I stopped him AGAIN and said "I already explained to you what Atheism is, why do keep referring to Atheism incorrectly? Just so we're on the same page can you confirm what Atheism is?" and he came back with "Yes, yes, I know. Atheists are Darwinist scientists who are angry at God because they feel betrayed because they lost their connection with Jesus"

@InterestsMayVary2234

5 жыл бұрын

Next time that happens to you, call me. I will loan you a hammer and you can decide where it goes from there. Lol

@msjkramey

5 жыл бұрын

The reason is probably that for a lot of us, the reason we temporarily lose faith is being mad at God. I was raped and couldn't hear my calling anymore at 14. I still haven't gotten it all the way back. And in the past few weeks my youngest brother found my other little brothers suicide note and a knife by the computer. He's only 15 and I got so angry, not necessarily at God, but at the world. I straight up told him in prayer, "do what you want to me, but how dare you do this to my little brother. We're not on speaking terms right now." For a lot of christians, they assume that trauma is the only reason to leave God. It's not true, but it's common

@Napoleonic_S

5 жыл бұрын

@@msjkramey sorry to read your story girl, but yeah that's basically the same for all religions and those who were brainwashed from childhood with religions. Usually something traumatic (or just against their intelligence) made them question their religions and eventually left them.

@msjkramey

5 жыл бұрын

napoleonic sp007rz I was about to get emotional, thinking you were giving some compassion. But then you slapped me in the face with it by saying "yeah, that's what Christians do"

@Napoleonic_S

5 жыл бұрын

@@msjkramey whoa I don't follow your logic, sorry if I offended you, but that's not just what Christians do, that's all human do. I was a Christian and I'm familiar with your story about traumatic experience, but now I can only make peace with the fact that reality is just as it is, and we are all not alone in that sense, whatever paths we take in our lives, others have walked on the same paths, whatever and how ever the end of those paths eventually reached us.

8:40 was in my case quite the opposite. First I was atheist, then found to "God", then got diagnosed with MS, then I somewhat tried to maintain my faith, because I thought "Well, God will help me out somehow", then it got worse, and I got diagnosed with Primary Progredient MS, and then I began to ask questions, and went full the Theodizee-Path. Now I am an agnostic misotheist. Meaning: I don't know for sure, that there isn't some "higher beeing", but I tend not to believe, and even IF it existed, I would just feel pure hatred and anger for it.

I’d be interested in hearing more about the times you were challenged and what you learned.

A Theist to Atheist: "Wait,you HAVE to believe in something in life!" The Atheist:" Sure.I believe in Myself". That's me.Thanks for the video!

@FourDeuce01

3 жыл бұрын

When somebody tries to tell me I have to believe in something, I ask them to prove it. So far, nobody has ever managed to do that.

@cryofpaine

3 жыл бұрын

I believe in science. I believe in empathy and having compassion for one another. I believe that, no matter what else, doing good for others is its own reward.

@marion.saturn

3 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing to my mother xD

@Orchidlettux

3 жыл бұрын

@@cryofpaine Well said! I have no hate for theists, at all

@kwarlus

3 жыл бұрын

I believe in my own things, my own "religion", no need for a preset God that I don't fully buy for me

I'd believe in God if I saw angels. Now here's the thing: I haven't.

@exarch404

3 жыл бұрын

The main difference between atheists (particularly those of the skeptic variety) and many christians (particularly those of the proselytizing variety) is that any atheist can tell you EXACTLY what would convince them god exists, while the christians usually counter that with the assertion that NOTHING can convince them god does NOT exist. In other words, if nothing can change their mind, and they can't give you the evidence you seek, continuing to argue is rather pointless.

@davidvarley1812

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not asking for much when it comes to God's existence, only scientific proof.

@thefolder3086

2 жыл бұрын

I’m both an atheist and a religious person at the same time. Buddhism lol.

@connormcgehee9349

2 жыл бұрын

Just look at my face dude

@thefolder3086

2 жыл бұрын

@@connormcgehee9349 Media angles or biblically accurate angles?

Honestly I believe in God but that doesn't mean I disrespect people who dont believe in God. Everyone has their opinions. Everyone chooses what they find most appealing to themselves. So its better to respect. Also I have seen some Atheists making fun of theists people just because they believe in God and thats wrong because neither Atheists can prove the non existence of God nor can theists prove the existence of God

@twix-official7329

2 ай бұрын

and that makes you a good person :) unlike others

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic , this comment may be a tad unusual, bc I'm a Catholic school Theology teacher who used this video in my class to help them understand that atheism isn't always a matter of ignorance, hatred, or any other label far too prevelant amongst us theist folks. Legit, you're one of the most articulate atheists I've come across, and easily the best at rational counter-arguments. I appreciate your openness in the intro to this video to the challenges theists have given you, and you're welcoming more of them. As such, I'd like to offer you a challenge to atheism called Cold Case Christianity. It's the name of a book by a cold-case detective, atheist, who looks at the Gospels as eyewitness testimonies, and evaluates them like all the testimonies he evaluates professionally in homicide cases. There's also videos & a website, but the book has the thoroughness that I think you would enjoy.

how many of these people who were atheist and then started wondering "is there a god?" thought about ancient gods like zeus, osiris, odin, ereshkigal etc. instead of gods worshiped in their community/family/surroundings?

@bobmiller3627

5 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that you DON'T worship the one true god Osiris!!! Blasphemer!!! Kill the heretic!!!

@diobrando6716

5 жыл бұрын

I find those gods more believable

@mordec1016

5 жыл бұрын

ShadinCore God is not gods. The comparison is inadequate; you might be skeptical of both God and gods, but they're very different concepts.

@sarasthoughts

5 жыл бұрын

@@mordec1016 they're not tho. Most gods are part of one single form of energy or various manifestations of a single god

@mordec1016

5 жыл бұрын

sarasthoughts that would be a theory/view regarding gods and trying to connect them to God; it presupposes that they are different concepts. The very fact that someone might take gods to be manifestations of God shows that God and gods are not identical concepts. And they're not; any study or reading of theistic religious or philosophical traditions can show this.

One time i saw a bumpersticker that said "I met god and shes black" and i suffered from so many emotions at once

@matthewplayspiano7053

5 жыл бұрын

Arschgeiger “ *she’s* “

@matthewplayspiano7053

4 жыл бұрын

Amy Xoxo I’m gonna be completely honest with you, I have know idea why I made that comment, I hate grammar nazis and I wouldn’t usually do that. So maybe it was a troll, but it was so irrelevant that I didn’t care to remember it, maybe you shouldn’t either.

@riffhammeron

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewplayspiano7053 "no idea"

@Hynotama

4 жыл бұрын

The driver was a social justice warrior.

@FishfaceTheDestroyer

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, considering humans were apparently made in God's image and the common ancestor of all living humans is a woman from Africa...

Been on both sides of this issue in my life, and I can confidently say that both groups reach their conclusions based on a tad bit of critical thinking and a whole lotta emotion. The arguments you mock can't be dismissed nearly as easily as you think they can, nor are they as conclusive as Christians think they are.

@Faolandia

9 ай бұрын

Cheap symmetrism - and misguided, to boot. Nowhere in the video does Drew "dismiss" any arguments "easily", or "mock" them. You weren't listening.

@Finckelstein

7 ай бұрын

"I can confidently say that both groups reach their conclusions based on a tad bit of critical thinking and a whole lotta emotion." As a lifelong atheist I can assure you there is literally 0 emotion behind my dismissal of your fairy tales. It's logically unsound nonsense that I know people tell each other to either feel better about their lives or to control other people. It's all a carrot on a stick - "You suffer in this life but you will get rewarded in the next. And now for the tithe!" - says the megachurch pastor shopping for his 2nd private jet. Emotion comes into play when religious people abuse people over their delusions. When they think they have the right to discriminate because their ancient book of hate tells them to.

Not really an argument, but I tend to say I put my trust in science and I get the response, “Well I put my trust in God.” …k Well if you jump off a building, let’s see what or who prevails. God or gravity. If you get sick, prayer or medicine. If you’re violently threatened, your savior or a weapon for self defense. If you’re suffering from mental health problems, seeking god or seeking therapy. Cancerous tumor, the power of Christ or chemo. Seeking life advice, an omnipotent father you’ve never seen, heard, or met or the father/mother/grandparent/etc who raised you. Feeling depressed, being held by god, or a hug from a friend or spouse. Existential crisis, a god that is essentially the deity of existential crisis or psilocybin. I mean the list of areas where god has only ever failed to be everything Christians proclaim him to be is extensive. And that’s just through life experience.

One of my favorite counter arguments to theists whenever they ask “How do you know your right”? is to ask them “How do we know that any religion is right? Who’s to say that your religion is right compared to, let’s say, Buddhism or Hinduism or maybe even the ancient Mesopotamian religions?” It’s pretty effective too since it leads to some of the more predictable arguments.

@lickmyballoonknot

3 жыл бұрын

Raised in the christian church, that always bugged me as a kid. That and the hatred of gays.

@hitemwid1t

3 жыл бұрын

my argument is just wait and die, and at the end of the day at least religion made sure that we didnt end up eating each other and become cannibals

@D--O

3 жыл бұрын

@@hitemwid1t Or roast eachoth- wait

@Llortnerof

3 жыл бұрын

@@hitemwid1t Isn't tribal cannibalism pretty much a religious belief itself? (As opposed to that done out of extreme situational need or mental illness)

@thebookless3381

2 жыл бұрын

@@hitemwid1t But, that isn't true...

Miracles where actually the first thing that made me doubt religion when i was like 7 or 8. "Why doesn't god create miracles anymore?"

@Volcanic47

4 жыл бұрын

See the youtube channel inspired philosophy, he has produced a video on "miracles".

@brazzy244

4 жыл бұрын

He actually does, Jesus does that trough believers, it’s like he wants to show u he's real (but ofc also so u don’t have to live in pain). Search for Tom Loud and Todd White in YT, what they did is not edited and can be done by any believer.

@norminpontu9905

4 жыл бұрын

brazzy_yt_ prove god or jesus or whoever does miracles

@brazzy244

4 жыл бұрын

NorMinPontu Search Tom Loud or Todd White street healings in YT.

@brazzy244

4 жыл бұрын

NorMinPontu just say: ,,Jesus if ur real, reveal urself to me (amen)”. Pls just do it.

I think u was born an atheist. I thought my Roman Catholic parents and their priests were all crazy from the word go and they scared me. Having the people who are supposed to raise you, believe in ghosts and angels was terrifying. I was happy to leave at 15, meet the man who became my atheist husband and get on with the real world.

Explanations of "Why Non believers do reject *insert god*?" are acting as a shield from acknowleding that other people can have their own life. It's form of control over the mind of the person.