8:32 I see what you did there. 💥

@vibingone101

2 жыл бұрын

Love your metroid vids, I might re-binge it

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

The old legends are the best legends.

@black_bandit1084

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it either

@ArmadilloJohn

2 жыл бұрын

What did he do? WHAT DID HE DO??

@evdestroy4121

2 жыл бұрын

0/10 didn't crash the game

I’m a professional musician and writer/producer. Do a lot of intensive sound design… and the original Sega Genesis sounds SO DAMN GOOD. It’s why none of the official ports/emulations ever feel right to me. That sound engine is magic. I still feel blessed I got to be blown away by it back in the day :)

@mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417

2 жыл бұрын

You are tripping if you think the original genesis sounds better than anything beyond the Saturn port (coming from a fellow musician producer even tho having ears is enough)

@VitaEx

2 жыл бұрын

Lol everyone has their own tastes I have my own console favorites but I feel you Nelsonius I know from trying to emulate or make chipsounds very specific sound chips sound completely different have entirely different tone and feel and all of them are iconic for different reasons. Hearing a song you love on the wrong chipset can be jarring because many of them are unmistakable in personality not just wave shape but the limitations that define how they play like say how the nes couldn’t make true triangle wave so stepped them gradually creating a very specific sound adding a higher pitch to the triangle wave technically this is a flaw a limitation due to the jumps in steps effecting frequency as it’s not a pure triangle wave. But I mean artistically it’s the entire character of sound creating dozens of iconic songs and while someone would try to improve it others are trying to reverse engineer an accurate tone for chipsets.

@linkpwnsevery1

2 жыл бұрын

Idk I ain't a professional but I always hated the Sega sound effects from many games the only one I can tolerate was sonic games except spinball. I prefer the snes over sega sounds effect and music from games.

@mrnelsonius5631

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 I mean, we are talking about an inherently limited technology of it’s time. Top tier music professionals spent decades trying to overcome the noise and degradation of recording to tape… and now there are entire music genres dedicated to that low fidelity sound. I’d never argue that I want to listen to all my music through the Genesis audio hardware haha. But I do want to hear my genesis games sound just like that hardware did at the time. Primarily the music more than the SFX. All the official ports the music just sounds awful to me. It sounds like Windows 95 built in midi player and lacks the harmonic richness of the Genesis hardware. Just my preference, and nostalgia has a lot to do with it

@VitaEx

2 жыл бұрын

@@linkpwnsevery1 I also much prefer nes and snes myself I love the Ricoh 2a03 sound chip in particular but some sega games sound great or better on the genesis like streets of rage and mortal kombat the snes port of mk1 isn’t very good and the music also doesn’t pump as much but I typically find the sega a bit to gritty and prefer the softer sounds of the Nintendo

Sonic origins is a game

@sephiroth6946

2 жыл бұрын

r/technicallythetruth

@ssupermarlo

2 жыл бұрын

@@sephiroth6946 no not technically just the truth

@pockitsune6347

2 жыл бұрын

Well actually 🤓 sonic origins is a collection of games

@sephiroth6946

2 жыл бұрын

@@pockitsune6347 those are games. Checkmate

@pockitsune6347

2 жыл бұрын

@@sephiroth6946 Yeah exactly, games not game 🤯

While Frontiers leaves me feeling mixed about it, Origins on the other hand has me confidently hyped about it and its extra content. The fact that the classics are all made from the ground-up with Retro Engine and in 16:9 widescreen presentation and has a story mode with cutscenes connecting the games together makes things even better. It's looking to be a love-letter to Sonic fans while also being an excellent starting point for newcomers to the series.

@AUGMENTEDGAMING

2 жыл бұрын

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

@BrokenAce1295

2 жыл бұрын

@@AUGMENTEDGAMING Yes, since I'm personally enjoying this collection so far.

@shannonhill3356

Жыл бұрын

Well, while frontiers was a much needed transition and breath of fresh air (OF THE WILD! lol), I did have a lot of fun with it, and I do think the open concept is excellent - the world was dead empty, the “puzzles” were absolutely soulless, and the fact that they left lore files stating how there was only supposed to be 3 islands as unlockables in the game without re-recording them, they reused island textures and landmarks from previous maps for the last two, and even reused Amy’s heart tokens on Sage’s island (and yes, I thought it was off she didn’t have her own tokens on the other hero’s islands, but at least that made some kind of sense) - it all just screams RUSHED. I don’t know why SEGA couldn’t see the potential here and given the team a little more time. That being said, the “puzzle” aspects should have been better figured out, and designed, even prior to implementation in the game whatsoever that’s not due to time constraint. Bouncing/catching balls, drawing circles, and quick stepping buttons just don’t mesh super well with Sonic, they’re not mechanics we’re used to or even fit with “speedy blur ball” physics and gameplay. Why not implement movement based puzzles? If they really wanted what they used, they could’ve been used to simply open doors or even the cyberspace portals. The fact that the main gameplay loop and “puzzles” are over simplified and given 4x the amount of time needed to complete them is borderline insulting lol. And I could definitely go on about the difficulty spike on the final island - out of literally nowhere - and how ridiculously obvious that padding was. All that being said - I still had a lot of fun and see so much potential here. I really hope Sega go on to commission Frontiers 2 with some better world-interaction, puzzles, and maybe even an npc, or an animal, or something other than empty space. SUCH potential here, and I’m really excited. I do also wish there was more to do in the end-game of Frontiers, but I just went ahead and started a fresh run file 🤷🏻‍♂️

As great as it all sounds, I'll still wait on getting Origins. I've been a fan of Sonic ever since I got Sonic Heroes and Mega Collection and while I like that they've made the trilogy accessible in many platforms and now brings the definitive version for all four of them, I am feeling pretty burned out. With all the opportunities they have done with the genesis games, I felt like they could do the same with other Sonic games, such as a Remaster for the 3D Sonic games, or a trilogy collection with Sonic Advance. And the closest we got was them porting Sonic Heroes PS2 version on PS3.

@jeremyknight9980

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think us early 3D Sonic fans are ever going to get anything like this. a 3D Sonic, Advance or Rush collection getting the same treatment as the Classics with Origins would be so fire. It sucks that the 3D games don't get this kind of passion and I think it's about time they got it.

@stevanthewise7240

2 жыл бұрын

What they really need to do is make new games worth playing lol. Before pandering to more nostalgia, they really should make the character worth caring about again

@andrewwolan4395

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, a remake of the Sonic Advance trilogy would be nice. Maybe that is next?

@randomvideotosee

2 жыл бұрын

My (mid 30s) perfect "Orgins Sequel" would be: Start somewhere in 2D with Sonic/Tails flying with birds/flickies, then slowly transition from 2D cutscene to "remastered" 3D blast intro. Then start with Sonic 3D (both soundtracks) but change the the goal design all together. Don't make collecting birds the requirement, make it a bonus like in Adventure1/2. The stages could then be creative to switch between overhead and 3D..... i don't know where I am going with that, but 3D blast era in an "anniversary mode" doesn't need to be too long of an adventure, but Sonic comes back to a threat after hearing about a blue water monster...que Sonic Adventure first mini boss before Emerald Coast zone. You can keep the original voice acting from Dreamcast but just brand new animations all together. This is when the big decision is made "which is the best Sonic 3D gaming engine of the modern era" -- this is why a project liek this is almost a full new game, not just a remake. SA 1 takes you to SA2 and from there well maybe we go back to that new 3DBlast overhead with Sonic Heroes and then Sonic Generations as the finale...only this time, the classic sonic stages, use the Origins/Mania retro engine for the 2D stages... so you then complete all early eras of sonic. What a huge project for Sega. Get to work!! Edit: A) make robot stages optional for SA1 & SA2 B) Maybe tails can keep the robot, but also hop out of it for SA2 stages? Make a beeper/whislte button to call the robot to him? vs..a pun to him always having to fly to sonic. C) Big removed from Main Adventure play but unlockable D) Shadow unlockable to be played on Sonic Adventure 1 stages and maybe others E) Knuckles finding chaos emerald needs to be really touched up. Either a better radar/dig system or new goals all together with bonus of finding emerals. Maybe he only needs to find "one" piece randomly placed else where and then 2 other super hidden ones help him get chaos/super skills later. F) Make an easter egg that Wind Valley music from SA1 is the same as the beginning of this game Sonic 3D Blast Stage 1.

always happy to see a new blazehedgehog video. your voice is really nice to listen to as well!

Personally my main problem with Denuvo isn't that it can suck system resources like a vampire, it's that it requires online activation either every time you decide to launch the game, for every few weeks depending on how the developers set it up. Because once those activation servers turn off for good, and Sega decides not to update it to remove the drm, you ain't playing that game you spend your money on.

@snark567

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost like you get punished for buying the game.

@ragnarockerbunny

2 жыл бұрын

This did happen with Fallout 3, which for years required fanmade workarounds just to play because it used a dead DRM service called Games for Windows Live. The hope is that, like with Sonic Mania, Denuvo eventually gets removed. Unfortunately Denuvo isn't the extent of the problems with the collection, but its removal will go a long way towards improving the product for the people who bought it.

The edit icon on the character select icon is just a save complete icon, it can be seen right after that screenshot in the original trailer. It should also be noted that Headcannon only remade Sonic 3, they had no involvement with the actual Sonic Origins product. This is still a great video! Good job!

@KC.086

2 жыл бұрын

is that confirmed? I think that it's a sprite select option, Sonic has different sprites in every classic game

@InitialAA

2 жыл бұрын

@@KC.086 from the footage released by Sega Korea, elaborating and confirming that it is the save complete icon, it is practically confirmed.

Not sure if you dislike comparisons, but your videos give me the same comfy feeling I get watching dudes like Cybershell, just a person rambling about important Sonic info over sonic osts, and that feeling sure as hell kicked in when 'Evening Star' started playing

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

I welcome comparisons. Comparisons can be a useful shorthand to explain that you like something even if you struggle with specific reasons why. But anyone can say "I like X because it reminds me of Y."

This collection would have been great if they added an "Encore" mode with new levels, new color palettes and higher difficulty.

@framedthunder6436

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe as a DLC

@CRAgamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@framedthunder6436 highly unlikely, these are ports first and foremost, they're not gonna make new assets for a re-release of a game, besides the new ui to get into said games.

@Miriam_J_

2 жыл бұрын

For as much as they've used Amy in the marketing for classic games, you'd think they'd have added her as a character. They did this with Mania too, it's very weird.

@shannonhill3356

Жыл бұрын

@@CRAgamerI think the joke went over your head, there, buddy…

@CRAgamer

Жыл бұрын

@@shannonhill3356 that's impossible. I would have seen it and caught it. Nothing goes over my head.

Great video! I really enjoyed the section highlighting a chunk of the folks working on the collection.

so there was new Origins footage today. the "edit" icon next to Sonic's player sprite at 18:57 is actually an icon showing that a save file is in progress for that character, and not that Sonic's sprite was swapped out.

It’s sad to see how this turned out

Ian Flynn wasn’t writing the Archie comics before the brink of cancellation, he was involved with it for almost a decade! But he was the one to try to get things back on track and clean up the mess left by precious writers so he should be given MORE credit where it’s due!

This is a really well made video! This is the type of quality I’d expect from a youtuber with 100k+ subscribers, but you delivered. Subscribed.

It looks like a great collection and the extras are very exciting to me. I'm 35 and I've got these games many times over.

It's been confirmed that they'll use music from the prototype of Sonic 3 to replace the work that involved Michael Jackson. Those are from Carnival Night, Icecap and Launch Base zones. People who played the "Sonic & Knuckles Collection" will recognize them immediately as they were used there. They also confirmed that they are working those pieces of music to sound like they should've sounded in the Megadrive. It's actually a big deal because we are going to see sonic 3 & Knuckles as it was supposed to be released originally before Michael Jackson came in and before they decided to split the game in 2. I'm very excited to see it!!

@robbiewalker2831

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, the Prototype tracks sounded a lot better than what we actually got in Sonic Origins.

me looking at the live chat: *MOM, THAT'S ME! I'M ON TV!*

Nice to have you back. Considering the names involved in this that you've brought to the limelight, youve convinced me to buy this when iy comes out. Looking forward to the next one!

@joshuasebsebe1047

2 жыл бұрын

I contacted neko productions to make a mini series of Sonic Origins

I’m glad you’re hyped too!! Truthfully, I just wanna play 3&Knuckles and CD on my Switch. I love these games so much, and any extra goodies in the features are just a bonus. Plus, it’s got the drop dash. c: it’s hard to be mad at the drop dash.

You have single handedly made me love Sonic Origins even more 😊

Well made video, I hope the music doesn’t get removed and also they add air curling from sonic 2 community cut

youtube notified me this was premiering like ten minutes after it already started lmao

This entire video is a justification for the price of this game, holy moly what an Allstar cast of professionals.

@PSNMirru

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly smh

I already knew Sonic Origins was going to be better than the other ports of the classic games, but this video really puts it into the correct perspective. Awesome! 👍

Hot dang, this is exponentially more impressive than I ever would have thought. I'm a very casual Sonic fan, but I might actually buy this. I only wish it had games like Knuckles Chaotix.

@bradenhogan2

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe some day. I know Taxman (Christian Whitehead) has mentioned giving that game a Retro Engine remaster before. Sonic CD was a relatively obscure classic Sonic game when Sega ok’d it for remaster. So maybe it could just be its own remaster some day

@WaterKirby1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradenhogan2 Sonic CD wasn't obscure it was given a PC Version, the Intro & End Themes were in Mega Collection, & then it was 1 of the 3 Big Highlighted games in Gems Collection along with Sonic R & Sonic the Fighters. CD was famous & quite sought after 19 years ago among the GameCube playing Sonic Fans & some believe it to be the reason Gems Collection even exists just to satisfy our desire for it & more Classic Sonic Games that weren't in Mega Collection. As for Knuckles Chaotix it is famous for how insanely hard it is to access & for introducing Team Chaotix!

@bradenhogan2

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaterKirby1994 Sonic Gems Collection was literally a collection of “hidden gems” (aka lesser known/played Sonic games), hence the name “Sonic Gems Collection.” Sonic was not exclusive to Sega consoles anymore, so he was given a collection to introduce a new audience to games they might not have tried before. Exactly. Knuckles’ Chaotix is known for how few people even played it

@bradenhogan2

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaterKirby1994 I forget where, but Christian Whitehead himself has talked about this before, saying that Sonic CD Remastered would be an opportunity for old Sonic fans to play a classic game they might have missed in the classic era

Sonic 3 AIR overshadows the Sonic 3&K from Origins.

Would've been cool if they got Masato Nakamura to do a whole new Sonic 3 soundtrack.

@jujushmoojoo

2 жыл бұрын

Would have been cool, but then that would have made it a remaster

@WeeklyTubeShow2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jujushmoojoo That's fine.

@artycharr

2 жыл бұрын

@@jujushmoojoo that would have taken money and effort, this is SEGA.

@LambdaBelmont

2 жыл бұрын

@@artycharr As if getting people to digitally remaster decades old film and music from hardware notoriously hard to work with doesn't take money and effort to do? On top of brand new animations made specifically for the collection?

This is a really comprehensive look. Thanks for this!

Fantastic video. Very informative. Thank you

Very amazing video, as usual! 👍

It’s funny how we got a new Blazehedgehog video on the exact day we finally get gameplay footage of Frontiers.

If this, and sonic frontiers go good alongside the new sonic movie, we are in the sonic renaissance timeline confirmed

Great video as always Blaze, commenting to help out with the algorithm.

So... this is what you guys are going to do for the next 20 years? 2D sonic remixes??? im even surprised that something so safe, redundant, and predictable is still popular

@MarkerMurker

2 жыл бұрын

If it was good back then, it will be good for all time. But no, this is not what they're doing for the next 20 years and I have no idea where you got that from

This is digital only and I'm a physical kind of guy so I'm fucking pissed.

That thing about the Sonic 3 OST, you weren't wrong about it. Jun Senoue is going to re-arrange the prototype soundtrack for Sonic Origins.

Great video as always!!!

*Sonic Origins actually comes out* Welp...

once i'm in a better financial situation myself i'll definitely be giving you that patreon sub. great video :)

I did not think that this much talent was being put into this, even if I knew about the anniversary editions being put in. I am curious about the games you mentioned these developers work on that aren't as high profile and unrelated to sonic.

Don't care who's behind the remakes; locking extras behind preorder and deluxe edition pay walls and delisting legal copies of older releases put me right off the entire collection.

@DukeApples

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a very weak reason to not get the sonic collection. If anything its too cheap, it should be 100$ atleast.

@Orange_Swirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@DukeApples No.

@herrice3227

2 жыл бұрын

@@DukeApples The price isn't the issue; it's the selling of extras separate from the release, some exclusive to preorder, and taking the older releases off the market. It's scummy marketing

@DukeApples

2 жыл бұрын

@@herrice3227 stop crying about the price.

@herrice3227

2 жыл бұрын

@@DukeApples "the price isn't the issue"

After watching your video…I think I’ve convinced myself to buy it

The biggest problem with Denuvo is that it makes piracy the defacto best way to play the game since they remove it altogether. I won't pirate Sonic Origins and I hope no one else here does, but my point stands that it is pretty silly we have to pay for a worse version of the game

Sonic Origins doesn't have Ice Cap Zone music so it's an immediate inferior release for me. That they're delisting Sonic 3 from the 360 meaning nobody can easily obtain an original version of Sonic 3 just makes this more sour and mean spirited. If they kept both available it would be more palatable.

so we have confirmation that the MJ tracks are indeed being replaced with new compositions of the prototype tracks by jun senoue, so definitely interested in hearing how those sound

I think I'm going to miss Ice Cap and Launch Base, but I've heard the mockups of the replacement music and it sounds great.

18:51 The edit-looking icon might just be to denote that you've cleared the game, as it also appears with the "CLEAR!" message underneath as seen in the trailer. Sonic using his Sonic 2 sprite in Sonic 1's character select is interesting, but the recently released Sega footage (that confirmed the Drop Dash) shows that selecting him like that just has you playing as regular S1 Sonic (unless there's some sneaky editing trickery going on there). This seems to just be a confounding error of using one S2 Sonic to represent him generally throughout the 4 games, even though that's specifically not even consistent with the S1 sprites used in the My Data & Ranking section of the game. Remember, they're not giving Knuckles new sprites to make him playable (in part) in Sonic CD.

Not too fond of the lack of options in Origins, honestly. This is $40, and not only are lives permanently disabled in Anniversary mode, but Knuckles isn't playable in Sonic CD. I'll still probably get this game once the physical release comes out (let's be real, that's inevitable considering Mania got one) but I feel like this is going to be a hard sell for a lot of people, especially considering the PC version comes with Denuvo DRM. I also don't like how they're delisting all the old versions, but not giving the option to play the Genesis versions in Origins. THAT'S what the "Original" mode should've been, not just lives and cropped 4:3.

@chrishd659

2 жыл бұрын

The direction they're going with the game is quite odd, while I don't mind Knuckles' abscense in CD, it makes for an inconsistent collection due to the version of the engine being different and SEGA not tinkering much with the games themselves, and also HC working only in 3K as well. All of the budget seemed to be spent on the cutscenes and presentation, and while they look great, I still wish they could've invested on the ports themselves, since they look kinda there in comparison to the other stuff. Not to mention pricing, DRM for PC and delisting like you said. I'd really like to buy this, but spending +200 bucks for the base version for me is a big no for what they're offering.

I can just imagine BlazeHedgehog taking whiteout to his script to pencil in "Kineko Video." lol

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, that change happened like, almost on the exact same day I started writing this script.

@KinekoVideo

2 жыл бұрын

Oops 🙈

I hope you can do a follow up on the prototype music again!

Fantastic video! It shows how much work and care you put into the script and editing. Really well paced segments and doesn’t feel bloated or rant-y like a lot of video essays fall into. Good job, mang.

Uh- Well... It.. Um. It doesn't. Really.

Pre-ordered this collection as soon as I could and waiting for the release day. The fact that as I looked at the footage of Sonic 1&2, I saw they were the Retro Engine versions had made me happy that I can finally play these on a proper TV. Without a bunch of annoying steps (not going into phone emulation on PC, that is a pain on my end!) Only real problem on my end is the lack of a physical edition. If we do end up losing the Sonic 3 soundtrack, it will suck but I can move on. Then again they may end up having something going on that we may not know of. An example that I think could happen is: at first it will have the new soundtrack. After the sales Sega could pay some of the composers (or some other legal action, like a compromise) and the old soundtrack could come back (most likely a paid DLC) as a toggleable option.

I'm going to pass for now, between the weird tiered editions and the lack of a physical release.(I'm allergic to digital-only unless it's DRM-free and easy to back up.) But given all the love that was put into this, and the convenience of having them on Switch and not having to hook up the Wii for the Mega and Gems collections, I'll definitely be giving it a second look when the all-but-inevitable physical release comes out. Great video, Blaze. Certainly up to your usual high standards. And it's nice to see some positivity given... [gestures broadly at everything] Just one question: What emulated version of Sonic 2 were you using for the audio comparison? It sounded too much like music to be the ATGames mini I have. :P

@rsome977

2 жыл бұрын

He's running it on the Sega Megadrives classics collection. I just tested it myself on PC and that audio glitch is definitely there.

@pvzmariosonica8fan

2 жыл бұрын

Nice crack at AtGames

Little correction… apparently, this little icon above Sonic’s head is actually the save state

Love the vid and I'm super excited to get stuck in to Origins in a few weeks. Btw what game is at 10:01?

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

"Time x Drifter" twitter.com/timexdrifter

I can't believe they got someone from Discotek Media to clean up the intro/outro for Sonic CD! If the remaster of Project A-ko is anything to go off of, Sonic CD fans(myself included) are in for a real treat!

I wish they included the Sonic Advance games to make the price worth it. Or at least ditch the whole "buy this version or another of Origins to get wide-screen and other bonus features etc" and simply sell us a single version with all features included at a logical price.

Great vid!

Don’t buy the game if you are a crazy fan like me. It just isn’t true to the originals even in classic mode

@eklipsed9254

2 жыл бұрын

@Mr Big Brother YT thats cool bro

That was a pretty good round-up on Sonic Origins' advantages over regular official emulations. Now I wonder, do you plan on giving your thoughts on Frontiers? Pretty curious to see it.

Seeing the Sonic animation makes me want a side scrolling Sonic adventure with the same art style.

Where can I find a source for that concept art for "Nightmare Thirteen" shown at 19:18? I've seen the background image with the all the nightmare monsters before, but never that one with little notes written in Japanese next to it. I wonder what it says? Why was that monster so much bigger and imposing than bumblebee Eggman?

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

Naoto Ohshima recently revealed very old Sonic 1 design documents from a time before the game even starred Sonic. It was about twins inside of a dreamland fighting a monster called Nightmare Thirteen. The Nightmare Thirteen idea seemed to carry forward to some of the earliest Sonic concepts, back when the game was apparently called "Wonder Hedgehog". Part of me wondered if he dug the documents out to include in Sonic Origins. forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/naoto-ohshima-twin-star-wonder-hedgehog-1990-tokyo-toy-show-and-other-goodness.40767/

@LocoRodeoBozo

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlazeHedgehog Way past cool. Thanks bro!

This is almost a new game. A redefined code from the original takes time and resources as said on the video. Thank you for this video, really. I am a day-one buyer too. And.. let's hope now that Sonic Mania 2 or Sonic 5 might be on the hands of this incredible and talented team, they are Sega now, let's hope they wanna be startin' something' (Yes Michael Jackson ref) xD

If Retro Engine if goes open source we could get a Mega Man Wily Wars fan pc port.

I don't really mind the sound accuracy as long as it's a minor thing like with the goalpost in sonic 2

The price isn’t steep at all. You spent 20 minutes talking about all the talent behind this project, how it’s rebuilt from the ground up using Retro Engine instead of just lazy emulation, and then you have newly animated cutscenes, missions, and probably other extras we don’t know about yet. When you consider what separates this collection from $20-25 collections of lazy emulation, the price is easily justified. It’s a more premium collection for a more premium price

@Sydney_Angelyt

2 жыл бұрын

it’s still $60 AUD for yet another version of Sonic 1-3&K

@bradenhogan2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sydney_Angelyt but what separates this from those collections? I don’t care about what makes this similar to other products, the value is in what makes it different. Don’t just take for granted the animations, the 3D models, the Mission Mode, the extras, the fact that Sonic 3 & Knuckles hasn’t been released in over a decade and had to be remastered by the highly skilled Sonic code expert Simon Thomley along with help from others, presumably along with having to have had its music situation sorted out somehow (be it through licensing/legal fees or through implementing the prototype music or through having to contract someone to make new music), etc. This was all work and money. More work and money than has been put into any of those collections you’re thinking of. Does that not make this a more premium product than those? Therefore, stands to reason that a more premium product deserves a more premium price. Let me help you account for the price: Let’s start with a baseline. I’m using USD and U.S. price listings because that’s what I’m familiar with. Keep in mind the game costs $40 USD for standard edition, $45 deluxe. My guess is that if emulated ROMs with barebones menu and little-no extras of these games were dumped onto digital stores, it would be ~$5/game. That lines up with other games on the digital market (Ex: Double Dragon NES). $5•5 games (counting S3 and &K as separate as they are easily twice as long as S1 and I imagine twice as costly to remaster) = $25. That also checks out with similar emulated collections (Ex: Castlevania Classic Collection, Mega Man Legacy Collections) which fall around the same price. So JUST the games, NOT remastered, would be reasonably worth ~$25 in my estimation. That leaves ~$15 to account for ($20 if you count DLC). NOW consider those new animated cutscenes, the Mission Mode, the fact that these were remastered from the ground up for a new engine, and all the other extra stuff this collection has to offer. Is all that which separates this collection from the pack worth $15-20 extra? It is for me. And if you say it isn’t for you, then you tell Sega, “don’t put this much effort into projects in the future, I’d much prefer something cheaper and more similar to everything else you’ve made before please”

Sadly, I won't be able to play it day 1... I'll be so busy celebrating my birthday!

Sonic 1 was also available in Sonic Generations.

Where is the music at the start of the video from?

I'm very curious if Sonic CD will get new animated cutscenes or just the old ones. I know someone on twitter said that the old scenes will be there, but I never found any info on whether or not there will be new scenes. Honestly, I think I prefer new cutscenes, with the old ones tucked neatly in the museum section.

Seeing those cartoon animations in Sonic Origins makes me wish they were doing a Monkey Island r Monster Boy remasters and have these games drawn to look like those animations.

Just putting this outthere when you complete a level of sonic 2 and the end of level music plays especially on lower qulity sound do you too fell extremely nostalgic or is this just me huh

Sonic 1 was also on the sidekick :^)

i have a sonic collections ds game on my 3ds, and whenever i get hit it sounds so strange and i havent seen ANYONE talk abt it

You made me want the game now!!!

It amazes me that sonic 1 alone has been released on so many different consoles same with sonic 2 and cd sonic 3 and sonic and knuckles also have a decent amount of re-releases but nearly as much this re-release of course obviously will count as it's most recent release because it hasn't seen a re-release in a long time the last time it ever got re-released was on sonic classic collection so this in my opinion is definitely a collection worth picking up

the digital deluxe version should have the sonic 1 prototype, the sonic 2 simon wai beta and the sonic 3 prototype

@framedthunder6436

2 жыл бұрын

The 1990 beta is lost

@Deepslate3D

2 жыл бұрын

@@framedthunder6436 Ik the tgc 1990 Prototype is lost but in 2021 the hidden palace found a proto i meant that one idiot

Sonic Origins comes out tomorrow I'm pretty sure but the thing is how will the sonic 1 special stages work?

I’m exited for this game but im hoping they will do something like mania a release a physical version

Well, I wouldn't mind the pricetag if they included a graphics option to play those games with the visuals shown in the titlescreen (19:24). Even though I grew up with these games, those graphics at the time were because of hardware-constraints. It does have it sharm, but this would be a great time to see those same games without pixels. Like it was done with Streets of Rage 4, Wonder Boy, ... . As especially Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap showed, you can easily swap the graphics on the fly.

What's the track at 1:43? I've heard it but can't remember it.

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

All the songs are listed in the credits in order, but this is from the Genesis version of Sonic 3D Blast; it's Rusty Ruin Act 2.

Were the sound differences between Right and Wrong due to incorrect emulation or was it that they were emulating based on different versions of the Mega Drive? They often sounded different due to the hardware too.

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's incorrect emulation. The Sega Ages emulations actually have toggles for different models of the hardware, and they still sound "correct."

Can someone please tell me what that game at 10:00 is?

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

"Time x Drifter." twitter.com/timexdrifter

Speaking about spark the electric jester, the first 1 is in general my most favorite game of all time

I think the only flaw is how, for some reason, the Brad Buxter/Michael Jackson Tracks are in the sound Library but not in the Zones themselves? Is it because all the tracks are their remastered versions for Sonic 1, 2 and CD? Would they need to pay Brad Buxter royalties for remastering said tracks? How come they were allowed to use said tracks for the Library then? I'm not too certain on how the Prototype tracks would sound, especially since I can't imagine them sounding remotely good even with a MegaDrive chip, but who knows. Outside of that, I'm looking forward to Origins since I already have Sonic 1, 2 and CD on Android(CD is broken for me on steam and I don't know why). So I'm glad to finally have access to all 4 classic games.

It would be great if we get a sequel to Origins & Mania in the future that introduces Shadow and Rouge as a team up into the 16-bit timeline _(like Sonic & Tails)._

@KingdomHeartsBrawler

2 жыл бұрын

That would kind of destroy the canon, though. The Adventure games are explicitly set in the canon of the Classics and they wrap up plot points that had been dropped as early as (Japanese) Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Sonic's continuity used to be pretty tight back in the day.

As someone who has S3AIR, S1F, and S2A, what’s my motivation for spending $60 on this? I love the art and new story mode, and the challenges seem interesting. But it just doesn’t seem worth it

@chrishd659

2 жыл бұрын

In a normal scenario, I'd be all for supporting the companies for an official product even with fan projects, especially since Origins looks kinda neat for what it's offering. We're finally playing Stealth's remakes on proper hardware and that's awesome. However, not only SEGA could've done much more with the compilation, but their marketing practices really hurt the product, overpricing and locking content behind a deluxe edition is just awful, not to mention other factors like the raise in price of Sonic's titles in other countries. I'm not really fond of Forever and Absolute, rather play the original phone titles, but I admire their work of refreshing these titles with their standards, something SEGA could've done with not much issues and just don't want to.

@chrishd659

2 жыл бұрын

@Alex Garner excluding the "hardcore" stuff (I don't like when people label themselves because it sounds really elitist), I do agree that SEGA is just filling a quota and saw this as a good opportunity. Origins being a starting point isn't a bad thing too, people who saw the movie could come to it and play to see how things were back then, and I'm all for a casual mode (with some rewards with that), I just feel like they should also make lives a choice for Anniversary too. Things are looking strange, but I do hope Origins look solid at least, something I can't say about (fan projects with) the decomps unfortunately.

I'll probably pick it up on sale.

I willing to bet the edit button is so you can play as different sprites of sonic in different game for example sonic 3s sonic sprite in sonic 1

finally something sonic related to get exited over

already have my order in. I got the deluxe edition, but i bought it for alot cheaper than 45. Def excited to see and play thru this story mode

@marcinwojcik6800

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask, how did you manage to buy it for less than 45$? I'd love to have it but the price is a bit steep

*everybody forgot about….* *HIM* *sonics ultimate powerhouse form of sonic 3*

I just want this game because i Finally want to play sonic 3 and knuckles the steam version did not work on my laptop for some reason

I think the OG release Sonic 3 music will be there. Remember the music in Hydrocity in Mania? I think whatever happened legally, it's probably over.

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

Hydrocity wasn't one of the tracks purported to be composed by Michael Jackson.

wich project is this at 10:01?

@BlazeHedgehog

2 жыл бұрын

"Time x Drifter" twitter.com/timexdrifter

@diogoscala5496

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlazeHedgehog thx

What the name of the caution game at 10:01?

@BlazeHedgehog

Жыл бұрын

"Time x Drifter" twitter.com/timexdrifter

ill miss the og sonic 3 music

Excellent video, man! I'd honestly say the only thing I "worry" (and I use that word so very lightly here) about is the music from Sonic 3, only cause... Some of those themes are just absolutely irreplaceable to me. Other than that, I'm actually fine with the price, but it's the 2007 Ubisoft Sales Model they seem to be going with that actually bugs me. Like, don't make me read a chart to buy a game aha. Regardless though, still gonna end up grabbing it Day 1. Also good to see you make a video again, man.