Why Invincible Season Two Isn't As Good.

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"Officer balls" - Kevin Conroy.

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  • @quillisha
    @quillisha27 күн бұрын

    I will say I do agree with your point on characters "dying" then just coming back, after the duplicate girl came back it was kinda a disappointment. Obviously though this is based on the comic so anything story-based can't be changed. I also do feel like the release dates were a bit wack too, but animation takes time. I would 100% prefer them to release all 8 episodes weekly unlike how they released 4 episodes, paused, then released the last 4 episodes.

  • @quillisha

    @quillisha

    27 күн бұрын

    Rex coming back too was kinda wack as well, his whole self improvement arc right now is wack in my opinion.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah I feel like they stretched out too many arcs in this show. Like Mark has pretty much the same plot with him wanting to balance college/superhero/girlfriend stuff even though that was the same thing he struggled with in the first season. I really don't understand why he wants to go to school so bad like he has other stuff to do. Rex prolly should've gotten that arc in the first season as well it did not need to take 2 seasons for him to finally be likeable.

  • @reidcacaro2919

    @reidcacaro2919

    26 күн бұрын

    Agreed 100% there was no reason to break it up like that it definitely negatively impacted the experience

  • @vrhehdbd3453

    @vrhehdbd3453

    26 күн бұрын

    Y'all allergic to character development 😭

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @vrhehdbd3453 yeah them dying developed their characters but I just didn't like that they all came back in some way.

  • @Someone-nl8mq
    @Someone-nl8mq27 күн бұрын

    never cook again lil bro such an L take 😭

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Why? Lol

  • @tonyjeong7430
    @tonyjeong743026 күн бұрын

    Wait til bro finds out that Angstrom Levy is still alive lol

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Is he lol he endured marks punches more than u woukd think.

  • @Partyboywarren
    @Partyboywarren26 күн бұрын

    I’m dropping a better review at 4 PM

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Lol ok

  • @Partyboywarren

    @Partyboywarren

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274let’s make a debate video. I’ll school you

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @Partyboywarren nah I'm good lol

  • @Partyboywarren

    @Partyboywarren

    25 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 buddy is scared😂😂😂😂

  • @infamousvoid6732
    @infamousvoid673227 күн бұрын

    Dude half of this is just saying you don’t understand the invincible universe at all it’s explained why each character doesn’t or does die in said season

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Ik? I think you missed the point in me saying who's death is suppose to have impact when they all come back to life, and Rex gets shot in the dome and he's still alive and I didn't find a logical reason for he still being alive.

  • @infamousvoid6732

    @infamousvoid6732

    27 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 I do get that 100% but if you really listen to what they explain about each person is Rex himself was experimented on through this childhood which gave him the durability to withstand a bullet that scalped him just about. He can’t fully deflect a bullet but internal damage won’t fully take him out.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    @infamousvoid6732 idk man. I think I remember seeing something about that when the episode of him getting shot died, but even then that's just a lot of stuff to remember. Like even to me who doesn't take the liberty to read every comic or learn as much it's still quite a bit to remember.

  • @vrhehdbd3453

    @vrhehdbd3453

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 It's all a build up. I don't think you know how narrative for shows work.

  • @SunSmogBackup
    @SunSmogBackup27 күн бұрын

    The invincible comics predate Injustice, and the original guardians of the globe were supposed to be parodies of the justice league, that’s something everyone knows it’s not the big revelation that you act like it is

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    True but there were other comics that showed similar things happening before invincible even came out like the whole things about supergirl killing people then superman disagreeing is very similar to Mark and Nolan disagreeing the injustice story line is just a project that had all those points I brought up. Again like I said in the video it's not even a bad thing I just wanted to talk about it.

  • @andrewbader6927
    @andrewbader692726 күн бұрын

    turn your gas off stop cooking

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Agree to disagree

  • @Kev45867
    @Kev4586726 күн бұрын

    Such a L your not cooking buddy

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Agree to disagree

  • @biggestdann326
    @biggestdann32627 күн бұрын

    Geez. I thought it was a massive improvement

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    I did like a lot of what they did in this season. I just didn't really include any of it in this video which is why I gave it a 7.5/10 which is still really good.

  • @benchelin5237
    @benchelin523727 күн бұрын

    Dude you clearly haven't read the comics nor get the show at all smh.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    I haven't read the comics to a lot of tv shows but even watching it I still just didn't like it as much as the first season and I still gave it a generous review considering how much didn't land with me.

  • @Picoal

    @Picoal

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274nah you were spitting with most of it but the stuff about death is not the shows problem considering they are trying to adapt the comics

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @Picoal yeah I just never read those comics so that was the only logical reason I could come, but I still don't even think this season is bad.

  • @Dasherten
    @Dasherten27 күн бұрын

    If you read the comics, all the characters that die and come back are the same. Nothing to do with money or casting.

  • @Dasherten

    @Dasherten

    27 күн бұрын

    Also the comparison to DC... is literally a parody, in the comics they even LOOK more similar in tge comics

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    @Dasherten Ik I didn't even say it was a bad thing but it's just a very similar plot to injustice to the point that I think I know how this show is going to end since I know how injustice ends.

  • @speffy2434
    @speffy243427 күн бұрын

    i kind of understand some points but the first guardians are literally supposed to be a parody/replica of the justice league and yeah i agree its a little dumb that a lot of people die and come back it makes it less impactful but that doesn't have to do with the voice acters rather that's just how the comic was also written

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah a lot of people have been telling me that, but you also have to understand that as someone who's just first getting interested in this universe I'm probably not going to go out of my way to read the comics, but I appreciate you being open minded.

  • @pingasbuster8451
    @pingasbuster845125 күн бұрын

    Omni man dies, Cecil dies, black Samson dies, Rex plode dies, the Martian guy dies, shrinking ray dies in the comics, battle beast dies, anisa dies, a Oliver dies, and much much more

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    25 күн бұрын

    Ah gee whiz lol *spoilers*

  • @jadenperry7611
    @jadenperry761127 күн бұрын

    Delete ur vid bro

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Lmao why

  • @mcleanimfify

    @mcleanimfify

    27 күн бұрын

    Half your points are garbage as they are following the comic books where these characters also don't die from these injuries

  • @mcleanimfify

    @mcleanimfify

    27 күн бұрын

    Also the Invincible comic came out 10 years before Injustice

  • @mcleanimfify

    @mcleanimfify

    27 күн бұрын

    Final point the Guardians were supposed to be a stand in for the Justice League the similarities were intentional making their almost immediate murder more of a shock.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    @mcleanimfify my major problems with this tv show were the release schedule, the DC similarities which I did say wasn't even a problem and the fact that all these characters just die and come back. Regardless if it's do with budget or following the comic timeline. I still do think that them coming back all the time is something I didn't really like. I get why Donald and Kate are still alive I even pointed that out, but even Rex gets shot in the brain and he's alive still and situations like that happening over the course of this show took me out of it.

  • @mr_detectivebean9561
    @mr_detectivebean956126 күн бұрын

    I understand were your coming from i feel the same way about season 2 but not because the writing suffers or anything like that its because it doesn't end with mark getting his new suit and i know whats coming since ive read the entire comic many times so this season didn't adapt as much material as i thought it would have.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah Mark's arc consisted of taking to many ass whoopings that he finally kills someone and that did not need to take two seasons to happen.

  • @aspirespire8847
    @aspirespire884726 күн бұрын

    I get the confusion with characters death, I didn’t have it since I’ve read the comics, Allen’s and Kates return were explained much better and gender swapped Shrinking Ray was instantly consumed and killed off in the comics , I’m assuming their trying to utilize him or now her I guess since they lost a bunch of the characters since they don’t have the right’s to characters like tech jacket. All I have to say is many important characters will permanently die and more fake out deaths will also take place 😂

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Well I already know what I'm going to talk about in my next video about season 3 lol

  • @pingasbuster8451
    @pingasbuster845125 күн бұрын

    Don’t worry plenty of main characters die late on

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    25 күн бұрын

    😂 hopefully they don't come back then

  • @reidcacaro2919
    @reidcacaro291926 күн бұрын

    The stuff with Donald is kinda new. He his a cyborg in the comic but you don’t see him die from Omni man or footage

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah I mean I understand why they're all alive but they all keep coming back in some way

  • @reidcacaro2919

    @reidcacaro2919

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 yea you’re definitely not wrong. They brought shrinking Rae back as well when he died in the comics. At least for duplikate it makes sense, it would be kinda dumb for her not to hide her prime body if all the copies can make copies themselves

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @reidcacaro2919 yeah I 100% agree and acknowledge why they're still alive other than Rex and Allen but I just think it's dumb that they do keep coming back.

  • @reidcacaro2919

    @reidcacaro2919

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 yea Allen is made of plot armor lol and have you read the comics?

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @reidcacaro2919 I have not and I kinda don't want too I might read them once this show concludes.

  • @brycehensley3241
    @brycehensley324127 күн бұрын

    You know that the show goes sort of off the comic. So on top of being a jab at there release schedule and how long it took for the season to come out at all. But on top of that in the comics they did a similar bit of comics taking long to come out

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah I just didn't like the release schedule it kinda ruined the hype for me and even when all eight episodes came out I didn't really find myself enjoying it as much as I did the last season. I think that release schedule kinda gave me more mixed feelings than anything.

  • @dragonslayergod
    @dragonslayergod26 күн бұрын

    As far as character deaths go allen was supposed to be like he gets stronger every time he almost dies. The problem with kate was that if she did die people would be mad she didn't do what she just did. Shrink ray died in the comics i was kinda upset she lived. As for the story i really feel like you're missing why invincible was different from dc but for only being a lil bit into the story i won't rag on that too much. Im a comic reader through and through so I'd still say give it a chance

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    I'm a comic reader too but I haven't looked at ant of the invincible comics.

  • @dragonslayergod

    @dragonslayergod

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 I say you should it's a Really good read and some more decisions in the show will make sense

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @dragonslayergod yeah I'll probably do that after the shows conclude or maybe when the next season comes out for more context

  • @dragonslayergod

    @dragonslayergod

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 while I like the show it's scheduling is trash plus they got approved for a 4 and 5 so by the time those finish it'll be like 2077. Also the animation studio keeps using excuses on why it takes so long then delivers middle of the road animation

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dragonslayergod yeah the animation take you out of the movie so many times lol

  • @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq
    @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq26 күн бұрын

    bro is going to hate season 3 then

  • @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq

    @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq

    26 күн бұрын

    also about characters not dying that was strictly from the comic they going based off the comic they did not decide these characters come back the author did

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    I didn't hate season 2 lol

  • @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq

    @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 well i just saying like if you dont like season 2 all like that your going to feel the same way throughout the whole comic i dont want to spoil so im not gonna say much else

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @IlyasMoussa-nr3wq I've been seeing a bunch of spoilers and stuff through out tik tok but I still woukd like to see where they go next.

  • @mrfry3
    @mrfry326 күн бұрын

    I like it better

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    That's ok lol

  • @jasonkeane133
    @jasonkeane13322 күн бұрын

    I guess you thought that "animation takes a looong time joke" was their reason. Actually no because in the Invincible comic *Years before the show was even made* The extra same scene was drawn about how looong comics take too make. Also I doubt people would have been happy to wait like 8 months for the whole thing anyway, I know it didn't bother me at all

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    22 күн бұрын

    That's actually funny if that same joke was present in the comics lmao. Idk I just didn't really like the fact that they had two releases for both parts of the show because even if the whole thing released 8 months later. I think people would've been pleased rather than annoyed because part one released 5 months ago then part two released 5 months later you know what I mean.

  • @jasonkeane133

    @jasonkeane133

    22 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 Well what can I say other then, season 3 will be worth wait

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    22 күн бұрын

    @@jasonkeane133 I hope so 🙏🏼

  • @misguidedharmony760
    @misguidedharmony76027 күн бұрын

    I really don't mind DC and invincible similarities, I don't share any of the gripes you do with the show. I enjoy the show regardless, it's funny, it can get intense at points and it's bloody. I liked the multiverse travel/references in the show as well, I plan to keep watching and I anticipate the next season with excitement

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    The thing I didn't like was that everyone keeps dying and coming back in some way. It also kinda gives the impression that it doesn't even matter if you're as string as omni man because you can just come back in some way or form and better.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    I also don't mind the DC similarities I said that in the video.

  • @quillisha
    @quillisha27 күн бұрын

    the similar characters an L take, they were in one episode and the similarity was done on purpose, showing that omni-man is stronger than all of those similar characters.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah people have been telling me it was a parody, but I also said it was a "major critique" only bc I kinda feel like I already know how thus story is going to play out since it does have a lot similarities in a bunch of stuff I have seen in DC.

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc66326 күн бұрын

    Spoilers** Of all the deaths that never where, I think duplicate should have stayed dead until later in season 3 or so, and the shrink girl should have stayed dead. I think Rex is supposed to die a little later, and his “not dead” scene is way too bad @$$ to complain about. Allen is supposed to be brutally beaten to really get that zenkai boost. So I don’t mind the near deaths, except for the shrink girl who has no reason to stay alive in the story. Unless the show wants to actually give her an arc or something worth keeping her alive.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah I just didn't like how they all came back to life in some way. I really didn't like that and it kept taking me out of the show.

  • @chrisblanc663

    @chrisblanc663

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 I get where you’re coming from. In the first season they shocked people by permanently killing off almost the entire team. Now even a character with no character growth (shrink ray pun) can be put on the chopping block. I liked the lizard fight BECAUSE people were actually dying. But then they just took it back like a typical comic book story.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @@chrisblanc663 right ✅️

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @@chrisblanc663 other than immortal but that's kinda the point to that dude he's died plenty of times

  • @up2five306
    @up2five30625 күн бұрын

    when yt comments are negative you know its not looking good

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    25 күн бұрын

    There's people who agree and disagree

  • @aaronatkinson177
    @aaronatkinson17727 күн бұрын

    At least the final fight with angstrom was good and hopefully season 3 will be a lot better 👍

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    Yeah that one was pretty cool lol

  • @noelw697
    @noelw69726 күн бұрын

    Injustice was made way after the Invincible comic started, if anything Invincible's take on evil Superman isn't a copycat motive. Robert Kirkman (the creator) clearly loves superheroes and the Guardians don't CHEAPEN the story but provide a message. Invincible's story is a commentary on how flawed the genre is. Eg. Darkwing shows that not everyone has Kryptonite, the Guardian's brutal murder explains how if in a mainstream story the Justice League faced a villain that doesn't hold back and is out of their 'league', shit comes not for kids. If anything you look at the comics, it tries to subvert what other companies do. Invincible unlike Spider-man stays married and DOES get a good ending. Superhuman violence still has a more realistic impact on shattering people's lives and mental health than other companies do. Eg. Realistically supervillains would brutalise people. Being able to easily slaughter people is traumatising. Cities are destroyed by villains but the impact it has on people's life, relationships, family, and mental health, told from an ordinary person's perspective is more than anything we got from Age of Ultron. The closest thing is that it motivated many villains but the brutal honesty that Thanos would rip people's arms off (or slaughter a human with a punch) is never addressed. Injustice provides no ACTUAL perspective on how ordinary people tie in or FEEL like they matter to this plot. Invincible changes all this, Debbie Grayson showing this.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    True but not everything has to be realistic. I would never mind a story with more fantasy and stuff like DC. I do feel the weight and impact these events have in the invincible characters like in the boys but I do think that characters like Omni man and the viltrum empire are made less emposing whenever Cecil can just teleport and can bring Donald back to life better.

  • @noelw697

    @noelw697

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 They don't have to be realistic but this makes their world less relatable and relatability is a fundamental thing they do. You wouldn't want to live in this kind of fantasy, but it's Invincible who has the anti-escapism messages, not them. You shouldn't want to Invincible, as he's got a brutal life. So does Spider-Man, but he portrays ordinary police as boring. You'd want to be William than Mark but you don't want to be Ned. Life in Invincible matters to story, and every death has weight. Injustice's brutal deaths don't say any of this. That isn't a good thing.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @noelw697 right but even DC does a great job with their character motives and story telling like thier comics and animation theatrical releases go absolutely insane.

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    @noelw697 I mean it's no coinsedence that some of the best superhero stories will always be from DC and sadly the most iconic superheros ever are not from Amazon and that's no coincidence

  • @noelw697

    @noelw697

    26 күн бұрын

    @@atomic4274 They do. But in the world of comics, Invincible is worshipped and stands out from a lot. It's a modern rarity, from the consistency in everything to that phenomenal ending that is extremely hard to feel. Invincible is much more refreshing in the recent superhero fatigue.

  • @marcorc5167
    @marcorc516720 күн бұрын

    Keep cooking bro. Season 2 was kinda bad, NOTHING HAPPENS?!? Does anything happen?? The last episode should have been the second part of the first episode and start the season from there. This season was really padded. So much so that it made me just read the comic, fuck this show now 😢

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    20 күн бұрын

    Yeah I kinda realized that like a lot was happening but also nothing was happening. Like that weird Egyptian scene at the end that happens for no reason.

  • @trux1567
    @trux156724 күн бұрын

    so much hate for an opinion, like dont get me wrong i personally enjoyed invincible. But the people that are mad that you didnt READ THE COMICS to understand THE SHOW is crazy. You shouldnt have to read the fucking comics to under stand the animated adaptation. Its like tokyo ghoul season 2 all over again at that point haha 😭 anyways enjoyed the video keep it up 👍

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    24 күн бұрын

    Ik lol some people are blinded by their pride

  • @khabibbrahh7644
    @khabibbrahh764426 күн бұрын

    read the comics.

  • @theCRYSISgamer
    @theCRYSISgamer27 күн бұрын

    🤨🤨🧢

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    27 күн бұрын

    ?

  • @othzy6149
    @othzy614926 күн бұрын

    L take but i respect it (pls continue cooking)

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Lol nice

  • @SkySniperrifle08
    @SkySniperrifle0825 күн бұрын

    if you gonna bitch about things try reading the comics first, first off alan in the comics dies and comes back stronger no matter what and its like dc because the creators didnt like licensing issues and its a jab, this is a studio thing done on purpose, you are not cooking bro

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    25 күн бұрын

    Clearly you missed the point.

  • @judsondoncaster4795
    @judsondoncaster479526 күн бұрын

    This is not a good look lil bro 😭

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    How'd you mean

  • @tylerbob11
    @tylerbob1126 күн бұрын

    I’m just disappointed that he still gets his ass whooped every episode… just get the blue suit already…

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah I wrote that into my script but scrapped it bc it would've made the video too long, but I was like geez Mark is just a punching bag this season.

  • @TayParlay
    @TayParlay28 күн бұрын

    never watched it but I instantly LE CREME'd My pants when i saw GREEN LANTERN😩😩😫

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    28 күн бұрын

    You don't even know his name lol

  • @RickSanchez-li2vr
    @RickSanchez-li2vr26 күн бұрын

    this is actually the most valid take ive ever seen

  • @atomic4274

    @atomic4274

    26 күн бұрын

    Preciate you

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