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@seniorAlfredo

Жыл бұрын

Literally the best athletes in the world deadlifts so I think im gonna keep doing them

@ethanallenhawley1052

Жыл бұрын

This is the click bait of programming. Don't use it. Find something better.

@MR-yp7mu

Жыл бұрын

Tip - do not deadlift (clean) with bent arms. Keep your elbows locked.

@AnthonyBolognese710

10 ай бұрын

@@MR-yp7mubetter tip-do not listen or do anything this guy in the video says.

@elisarceno4245

6 ай бұрын

Question dosnt the deadlift help develop a stronger clean though because obviously if you do a conventional 1000lbs deadlift your not going to clean that but would the clean probably be more developed since your body is used to doing heavier loads?

Personally I think if you’re an athlete during the off season is an amazing time to get a strong deadlift but during the season stay clear as it is very difficult to recover from a heavy deadlift session. If you’re not an athlete and just want to be a stronger dude do it as it’s one of the most functional movements for day to day life

@byza101

Жыл бұрын

100%.. I was not a deadlifter when I was younger and I paid the price with lower back problems. Embraced them in my 40’s and the difference it has made across many areas is phenomenal and I don’t get back pain anymore… well said mate 👍🏻 Happy New Year

@davidgantz9378

Жыл бұрын

IMO you are bullseye 100% right

@lillee4207

Жыл бұрын

I do deadlifts because I'm an athlete and the lower back and hamstrings are a weak spot. I sued to have lumbar lordosis from a weak low back. Now my back isn't as much of a week spot, and I can stand up straight without thinking about it

@tanthai3653

Жыл бұрын

@@lillee4207try switching the deadlift out with romanian deadlifts or stiff leg deadlifts. Theyre more “athletic” variations

@lillee4207

Жыл бұрын

@@tanthai3653 they're not more athletic in my eyes at all, they just use different muscles. I use rdl's to warm up and finish off deadlift sessions, but they're not any more athletic. A clean or snatch are more athletic deadlifts, but they don't give me any function for what I want to do. I train for hypertrophy with low rest, often times doing super sets and drop sets to gain weight, with the occasional explosive set here and there. And then I hit the bag or bob at home for 30 minutes. Some days 10*3minute rounds, other days 6*5minute rounds, one day I did 3*10minute rounds with less explosive. I do deadlifts/ rdls to build erectors, a little bit of glutes/ hamstrings, and to get strength up right now it's barely 2* bodyweight. When I just want to work erectors I do some light weight rdl's, but that is a rare occurrence I kind of rambled, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just giving you my point of view

Deadlifting gave me a new type of strength on the mats that I never had before. Most athletes will never get good enough at cleans to make them more effective than deadlifts.

@nickjohnson1178

Жыл бұрын

Fr I was always the skinny “quick” wrestler and when I committed to added 150lbs on my DL in the off-season I become the kid who could come out on top of scrambles from pure strength.

@RevShifty

Жыл бұрын

I think it really depends on ther athlete. He showed football players, which Icould see modified cleans and snatches probably working better for many of them in season. I don't think there's any doubt the deadlift remains supreme for developing raw strength, but at different points for different athletes there are less risky, potentially more rewarding alternatives.

@TuxedoMedia

Жыл бұрын

You said what I was thinking. I wrestled at 152, the combo of deadlifts and pullups gave me chimp strength.

@taylorlambert3656

Жыл бұрын

I tend to agree snatches and cleans are better if the athlete can do them safely but your also looking at a pretty seasoned athlete if they can. Had a super strong and powerful kid on my college football team catch the bar and his knees ran into his elbows on the descent for the catch. Broke his wrist pretty bad.

@RagingRugbyst

Жыл бұрын

Dude you don't need to get good. Like... I'm sure i could probably clean anx jerk 160kg if I had been practicing it for years but my 132kg no contact power clean I'm sure indicates a similar level of explosive power as somebody doing more weight more efficiently.

My dad had a stroke and nobody could pick him up to rush him to the hospital. A month earlier i was doing deadlifts and was pulling just 50kg, perfect form. He was about 80-90 kg. But damn straight that i lifted him easily because i was familiarized with the movement. Train Deadlifts fellas, you'll never know when you'll need to lift something or someome off the ground.

@ManicMoe

Жыл бұрын

Is he ok now?😢

@emiliomarbanjr

Жыл бұрын

@@ManicMoe he's getting better, but it's a long long way to go for him to recover. Thanks for asking though fella. Bless!

@russeljosephbrass

Жыл бұрын

I deadlift now I can lift my c ock

@GutzOverFear

Жыл бұрын

Damn, absolute soldier! Your Dad is lucky to have you. Hope he is much better now. 🙏🏼

@thefreshprincer5587

Жыл бұрын

Hope your pops is doing well man, much love to you and your family during this troubled time ❤️

Once you've hurt your back, it feels like playing with fire

@MaxBadstibner

Жыл бұрын

Ironically I herniated a disc that eventually required surgery not while deadlifting, but once I started running regularly. But you’re right, once you legitimately mess up your back then you will never feel quite the same again.

@x2xtreme360

Жыл бұрын

Yep. And I no longer deadlift for that reason. I can squat a solid 375lbs deep with great form, but the deadlift is just too risky anymore.

@adrielgutierrez5832

Жыл бұрын

Doctor told me i have arthritis in my lower back. She talked about surgery and therapy. Walking was painful. I started to deadlift and i now am living relatively pain free. May not work for eveyone but im glad it does for me.

@CJW0056

Жыл бұрын

@@adrielgutierrez5832 I started low on the weights, and gradually I can tell an improvement in strength. I was actually able to move furniture the other day pain free. So starting small is key for me. I can definitely see what the hype is about, it's crazy how much energy you use to deadlift. I can actually feel the muscles around my spine strengthen. I felt soreness there, the good kind of pain, lol.

@BWBParmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

Herniated L4 in early 2021 and re-bulged it in early 2022. Yeah it doesn't feel quite the same, but it's constantly surprising me, I can deadlift 80% of my best ever for 3x5 no problem and still climbing. One thing that seems to help me is controlled rounding, rounding in the thoracic spine where your back is rib supported and it's safer to do so takes some of the strain off the lower back

Counter argument: while those lifts are better for athleticism, the deadlift works better than those for hypertrophy and for strength. A newbie lacking an appreciable amount of strength and muscle would certainly benefit more from deadlifts than from explosive movements. If your sport benefits a lot from having a STRONGER, not necessarily more explosive but STRONGER posterior chain (an example might be wrestling), deadlifts will do more for you. Athletes with appreciable amounts of muscle relative to their sport who need to build more explosiveness (most advanced athletes) would be better served by the explosive lifts mentioned.

@SantosAl

Жыл бұрын

I just commented how it depends on the type of athlete. Deadlift have been great strength builder for a "hobbyist" BJJ practitioner like me.

@nickhinton8888

Жыл бұрын

Hypertrophy is getting bigger. Hyperplasia is getting stronger. Just FYI

@InvisibleHotdog

Жыл бұрын

@@nickhinton8888 just FYI, hyperplasia is "the enlargement of an organ or tissue caused by an increase in the reproduction rate of its cells, often as an initial stage in the development of cancer."

@nickhinton8888

Жыл бұрын

@@InvisibleHotdog that’s when referring to cancer cells. When referring to skeletal muscle; hypertrophy is the mitochondria of each muscle cell getting bigger so the muscle itself gets bigger. Hyperplasia is increasing the amount of muscle fibers (similar to how a tumor can grow, only it’s not specifically muscle cells it’s cancerous cells) which makes the muscle stronger but not necessarily bigger

@InvisibleHotdog

Жыл бұрын

@@nickhinton8888 No, dude. Hypertrophy and hyperplasia both increase the size of muscle cells. Strength is the production of force against an external resistance, a combination of muscle size, neuromuscular efficiency, anthropometry, etc. From the NSCA, "Research over the past 40 years has shown that the predominant mechanism for increasing muscle size is hypertrophy. Hyperplasia in humans may exist but is still very controversial as a major mechanism for increasing the intact size of a muscle (MacDougall et al. 1984; Alway et al. 1989; McCall et al. 1996). If hyperplasia does occur, it likely contributes very little (

"as you age, you get older" Wise words xD Totally agree :D

@pauldraper1736

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@_majohn92

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@GameHub1-

Жыл бұрын

xd????

@wladynoszhighlights5989

Жыл бұрын

Some people put in a "," instead of an "and" on sentences like these

@fitlifeHQ101

Жыл бұрын

As you gain strength, you get stronger lol

I deadlift because it makes my whole body feel pumped for about 3 days.

@Maki-qw8he

Жыл бұрын

Thats leg day for me brother lmao.

@eagleeyemind4800

Жыл бұрын

Never experienced that tbh, how many sets, reps and weight range?

@supersaiyan4rambo

Жыл бұрын

@@eagleeyemind4800 depends if you’re looking for a pump I think 4 sets of 12 with weight around your body weight or lighter, if you have the form down. For power I usually do 3x5 with a little heavier, like 1-2x your bw

RDLs fixed my low back pain during off season and helped me get stronger.

Counterpoint: deadlifts are a lot easier to reach and train a newbie lifter to do, while cleans require lots of practice, coordination, and coaching to get right in order to reap their benefits

@oriohoodlum

Жыл бұрын

Yup. This was a pretty clickbait short haha

@DarthConnor00

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been lifting for years and still Won’t go anywhere near any kind of snatch because it just seems like the risk of injury is so high

@TheSigmaGrindSet

Жыл бұрын

For sports specific, doing power cleans & power snatches are the way to go. They are less technical to get right & build more strength as your moving the bar through a higher ROM. It’s a different philosophy when approaching the lift; where an Olympic Lifter is trying to be as efficient as possible by getting under the bar quicker with a clean/snatch. A power clean/snatch your trying to be as inefficient as possible pulling through a longer a ROM recruiting more muscle groups + still getting the benefits of explosiveness recruiting more type 2B muscle fibres (just not as much a full clean/snatch)… I also like to add in the 3rd/old Olympic Lift (now dropped) of an OHP to increase upper body strength… Killing two birds with one stone/exercise…

@sscswimmer1

Жыл бұрын

Counterpoint, they really aren't that hard to learn. If you want to be lazy and not teach anything then sure. But athletes spend countless hours working on tiny details of footwork and can't coordinate well enough to execute a clean in a few weeks? Don't buy it.

@sw-gz9ps

10 ай бұрын

this is in regards to athletes, not newbie lifters

i feel all the other lift you mentioned as an alternative arebeay more complex to master and open to injury

@slingshotmcoy

Жыл бұрын

They might be, but they're also more sport specific. All athletes assume a risk of injury to certain degrees when training, even if their training is as optimal as can be. And let's face it, there's not much an athlete can do in the gym that's more dangerous than what happens on the field or in their arena of sport.

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

@@slingshotmcoy hehe, a snatch is sports specific ? A jumping trap at deadlift is sports specific? Lol

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

@Kyl Schwartz what sport are they specific too ?

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

@Kyl Schwartz I can see a trap bar deadlift helping explosiveness but even that’s not specifically for any particular sport. That’s a general exercise. A snatch is only good for snatching. That’s my opinion

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

@Kyl Schwartz these are general strength movements. The opposite of specific.

Trap Bar Deadlift, especially with proper platforms to make it lower and counteract the raised handles, seems the best option for anyone who wants a strong deadlift but isn't competing for deadlift and wants to avoid injury. The most functional lift for real life and sports outside of a Farmer's Walk - which you can also do with a trap bar : )

@bearstrengthwithin

11 ай бұрын

so true

As a former college athlete. We never did crazy heavy dead lifts. Never even maxed. Was more of a warm up while getting into power cleans and hang cleans

@roderickclerk5904

Жыл бұрын

Same in football and baseball. We rarely maxxed, only went like 80% like once every 2 week. We were taught to slowly increase the weight at the 8-10-12 rep range throughout the spring. I think it made us more athletic and WAAY more conditioned. And we had few injuries offseason and in season

With proper training in Olympic lifts the benefits are unreal. Hang cleans/deep squat/push press/snatch took me from an average football player to first team all state. I still use them to this day because they’re functional if I need to be explosive for any reason

"Trap bar jump" Had me in the first half...

@robmarsh918

Жыл бұрын

That’s insane. And he also said doing drop sets with a deadlift? What the hell!?

@natvictorson

Жыл бұрын

They're a modification for athletes who might not be able to clean

@robmarsh918

Жыл бұрын

@@natvictorson Um, where in the world did you hear that a trap bar jump (which is not even a thing, btw. It's pretty basic training knowledge you DO NOT combine weights with plyometrics) is a modification of a clean? With a clean, your feet barely leave the ground - usually not at all, just the heels - that that is the result of the explosive hip thrust. So something like a kettlebell swing would be a BIT more suitable as a supplement. Not a jump. Also, you do realize that there is a drill where you essentially partially clean. You do the clean, but stop and the hip thrust instead of tossing the weight up completely. Olympic lifters use it to practice that specific portion of the lift.

@natvictorson

Жыл бұрын

@@robmarsh918 I'm a strength and conditioning coach that works with athletes and I coach with a bias to Olympic weightlifting. I have a master's degree, s and c cert, weightlifting coaching certs. I've coached newbies and professional athletes... now that you know I'm not a dumbass, I'll let you know that you can in fact load plyometrics. Have you not heard of loaded squat jumps? Athletes do them with dumbbells, barbells, and yes, trap bars. It is indeed a thing. Do not insult my intelligence, maybe do some research. A kettlebell swing propulses force horizontally, more akin to a broad jump, it's not applying force vertically in the same way a clean, clean pull, or trap bar jump would. In a clean, you concentrically drive the bar up vertically, momentarily move the feet out to receive the bar, eccentrically lower the weight down, and drive back up out for the squat... Apply this knowledge to a trap bar jump for an athlete unable to perform the clean for whatever reason. Weight loaded beside the legs instead of in front... Concentrically drive the bar up through an explosive jump, eccentrically lower the weight down upon contact, concentrically drive back up to a standing position. Same can be applied to a loaded back squat jump. Dumbbells by your side. Heck even low level plyos like loaded pogos. I bet you'd feel safer if the athlete was band resisted through some plyos because it looks safer, in reality it's all the same concept but eliciting a slightly different training stimulus. Think starting strength, speed strength, strength speed qualities. Also, a medicine ball slam, throw, overhead toss, etc are loaded plyos, loaded sprints are what I'd consider a loaded plyo, band resisted or weight resisted jumps, including multidirectional jumps are loaded plyos. They're a thing. You should learn about them.

@robmarsh918

Жыл бұрын

@@natvictorson This is all solid information, I'll admit. And although I am also experienced with training and coaching, it is not to the degree you are (considering what you are claiming about yourself is true). I admit: I focused only on hip force production in a general sense and completely left out the eccentric and concentric loading portion of the movement. Although I do disagree that the hip thrust in a clean is strictly horizontal, I can grasp what you are saying. As far as loaded plyos, if you want to go into semantics, then yes, I am aware of medicine ball throws and loaded sprints are technically plyos with external resistance. I was referring specifically jumps. I am not a fan of things like loaded barbell squats bc the risk to reward ratio just seems unfavorable. HOWEVER, if we are talking about advanced athletes, then that is very different. I admittedly work with intermediates at best. And training is not my primary profession, nor do I do it much anymore, so I respect expertise in the field. And although I feel like your bias toward Olympic lifting may skew that ratio a bit, I don't have interest in Olympic lifts. So I don't know shit LOL. You got me. I'm so used to people being completely ignorant to training in these comments I dropped my guard. Kudos. OK, then. I have three genuine questions for you: 1) what do you think about this guy saying deadlifts are useless? I have to know. and 2) How do you feel about athletes doing Olympic lifts? Do you feel like the learning curve is worth it? Or does it depend on the athlete's ability to grasp the movement? 3) What is your information (media, site)? I'd like to check you out.

From experience a raw deadlift is the best possible exercise for wrestling and grappling martial arts, good strength in your grip and uncollapsable legs.

then change the title to “I HATE the DEADLIFT for SPORTS PERFORMANCE”

I love doing Deadlifts, but I sometimes get a reoccurring lower back injury and I can’t train for weeks. It’s frustrating.

@larrywelch4979

Жыл бұрын

Also same, got a trap bar and working methodically I have aced it.

@sirisaacedgelord6733

Жыл бұрын

Is it anything to do with form or is it an area of your back that has issues?

@Timewaits4no1

Жыл бұрын

Aaand that's why I don't deadlift. I don't have weeks/months to be down. The risk to reward ratio is to just to high for me

@pmdcollective

Жыл бұрын

Consider your stance. If I try to deadlift to narrow my back, it gets a huge twinge. With a wider stance it doesn't occur.

@tugul8888

Жыл бұрын

Eddie Hall says shins 1 inch from the bar while standing straight. That helps keep the bar close to ur body ie less strain on lower back

Dude is building his reputation on being "guy who programs weird rep counts"

Deadlift is just feeling PERFECT. It's my favourite lift, I do 5x5.

My back snapped just looking at all that brutal form.

5 sets of 2-3 reps Heavy set of 2-3 reps 2 dropsets of 9 reps

@jovanjovic3791

Жыл бұрын

For athlete ?

@davidgantz9378

Жыл бұрын

THAT is ALOT of high volume heavy lifting

@jusc8288

Жыл бұрын

@@user-oz6pp6ym4dthat’s how u get strong

@MrOpticBlade

Жыл бұрын

Why would you mix absolute strenght and hypertrophy training?

Bro that bicep's gonna tear💀

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

I know right, this dude doesn’t even look like he knows how to deadlift but he’s telling others it’s not a good idea 😂

@sandersoderqvist5401

Жыл бұрын

It could be that he can't lockout his arms fully straight. I don't know if that's the case but it could be.

@jacobsvetich8735

Жыл бұрын

​@@rationalright8342 you didnt listen did you...

@natvictorson

Жыл бұрын

He can't fully lockout, he has issues with the bench press too. You do know this guy's worked with Olympians and world class athletes right?

@rationalright8342

Жыл бұрын

@@natvictorson lol you must’ve bought his program huh ?

Deadlifting gives me a smooth muscular upper and lower back. It however is extremely taxing to stamina.

Zercher deadlifts for wrestling is pretty good

Training for power vs strength both ideal for an athlete

Guys this is just an opinion. The deadlift is useful for anyone, athletes included. Just because it may not be the BEST for athletes, doesn't mean it's not good for athletes. Having a strong and explosive posterior chain would definitely qualify as useful for an athlete. He says he prefers clean and snatches, both are great, doesn't mean you can do those AND deadlift. Tired of all these fitness "masters" making these absolute claims, when there's no need for it. Keep an open mind.

I deadlift because standing up in someones closed guard in Jiu Jitsu requires a strong posterior chain

Depends on what type of athlete you are, for BJJ, deadlifts are a crucial strength builder for certain techniques.

Im not a big deadlifter. I prefer other exercises like RDL, kettlebell swings, reverse hyper extensions, etc. to train my posterior chain. For me, they feel better, more natural, and carry other well to sports. Any time i do deadlift, i go relatively light for higher reps.

Definitely has the most Carry over to everyday life I would do all of them

Wes Craven the Master of Horror brings you the deadliest lift of them all. . .

The real reason why coaches program Olympic lifts (a sport on it’s own) is because they’re flashy and make them stand out in the market.

@TheJwalk1234

Жыл бұрын

I still think that’s translate to jumping better than a slow ass 600 deadlift vs a 225 snatch as the movement can’t be performed show if you wanted too.

@jamesfield6141

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJwalk1234 Strength is athletic or at least a key component of it. A deadlift is maximal hinging strength from picking up an object off the ground. It’s not like a snatch or a deadlift has absolutely no carry over. However, a snatch is more technically complex and thus safely bailing from it is something that an athlete who practices an entirely different sport (let’s say basketball for the sake of what you said about jumping). Why would you program something that is so difficult to do competently that it’s part of seperate weightlifting sport? Instead you could use more specific development movements such as a heavy compound movement, a single leg movement or plyometric exercises.

@TheJwalk1234

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesfield6141 I agree with everything you said outside like a true max like grinder. I do plyos with heavy trap bar deads to hopefully get over a 40 inch vertical again but single are at 90% at best. I think grinding( heavy weight ) is counter productive for athletic endeavors

@jamesfield6141

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJwalk1234 It’s hard to know what the difference between a 90% or 100% single unless you get close to either (grinding it out would be necessary for a 100%). So Grinding out reps would only be bad if form was compromised to do so, which would make it unsafe. If you did grind out reps every session you would plateau and gain neither strength or explosiveness long term.

@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662

Ай бұрын

They are just different. Olympic lifts are pretty awesome for what most sports are looking for, with a combination of speed, strength, and flexibility. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Mario rios taking notes getting ready for his attack

@kamalsharma7958

10 ай бұрын

He will get hate for this .

He's the first one I've heard say not to deadlift because it's too easy 😂 I love that. I thought it was another one of those risk of injury vids

Even for sports performance, the deadlift can be a good accessory for the other lifts you mention.

This is what college athletes are moving towards in major programs. Not that they never deadlift. They just don't let you go very heavy on deadlift

Reasonable, nuanced and respectful. Instead of just saying "iT's A bAd LiFt" he explained why it may not be best for this specific use case while still respecting it. It's like hammers for nails. Doesn't make a hammer a bad tool, there's just a better one for this specific case.

As much as I love deadlifts, clean pulls are a much better alternative for athletic performance

Deadlift is probably the most common movment done

When I did a combo of deadlifts and pullups it took me to the next level of strength in wrestling.

When i learned to rdl, my lower back pain vanished, so works for me and my hamstrings have grown well

as an old and tired, mostly sore person that’s not involved in sports, I sure do enjoy a good dead lift.

Deadlift specifically improved my knockout power as a teenager when i was boxing. Within two months I had a major increase in overall power without exerting (deadliftit was the only new thing incorporated). The only thing correct he says about a deadlift is the set/rep routine he stated at the end.

Keep deadlifting guys..if you do it right, it’s totally safe. It is the KING of all strength movements

@jacobsvetich8735

Жыл бұрын

In sports explosiveness over top end strength. That being said I dont play any sports and lift just to be strong and healthy and your definitely missing out if thats your goal.

@jacobsvetich8735

Жыл бұрын

You have only so much you can recover from no matter what you do and your training style should be tailored to your life and personal goals.

@seed.planted

Жыл бұрын

He never said it was dangerous lol

@zoest9343

Жыл бұрын

Everyone who deadlifts built like absolute shxt , DL is not impressive, it’s a Lazy Workout for lazy ppl who can’t Pull Up

@jtlomaximoxd9306

Жыл бұрын

Cap. Deadlift is one of the most dangerous exercises to perform and the perfect exercise to break your back.

Deads are best. Same with the power cleans. Luv that athletic and heavy movement from the floor

I love deadlifts, but I actually agree with these points. I think there are better choices to train for athletic performance.

Yep, at 64, the deadlift is my fav.

That second to last guy, with the blue pants, is blowing out his back like crazy

Safer then pulling cold off the floor from an arbitrary bar position, start from the top in a safe position of strength lower to your mid shin an raise. Romanian deadlifts👍

Kettlebell swing is great for athletic performance in the posterior chain.

I'm in total agreement, with the exception of trap bar jumps.

I won’t deadlift because I know too many people who have permanent back injuries from it.

@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662

Ай бұрын

You should see the numbers of obese people with back issues. 1/10, would not recommend obesity.

Comparing apples with oranges, deadlifting is done by combat sport athletes for general strength as seen with trainers like Phil Daru , olympic lifts are for explosiveness. The problem with olympic lifts is that they are quite technical and can be dangerous for the regular gym goer.

I think this demonstrates a common misconception about what the goal for an athlete is in the weight room. For an athlete, the deadlift is a superior lift to the power clean for the reason you mention yourself in this video: we can lift heavy weights. The deadlift helps an athlete build strength in the hips, legs, and back. That strength can then later be put to use in the context of the athletes sport in practice. Worrying about making the lifts in the gym “carry over” is a mistake, instead worry about picking lifts that will make you the strongest.

Romanians are so handy for targeting hams, can do with bumbells, it's all about getting a good controlled eccentric

Growth hormone stimulation, simple as that

I'll never stop deadlifting.

Robert Oberst said it perfectly “ If you don’t get paid to deadlift don’t fucking deadlift”

@kozmo7

Жыл бұрын

Oberst is also an idiot so take that with a big ol salt cube

@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom

5 ай бұрын

It was a stupid comment.

I LOVE this take. Athletes do athletic movements, those out of that sphere should do at least some variant of a deadlift. In the workplace for 95% of careers the #1 injury is low back injury caused by (you guessed it) bending over to pick something up. What is the deadlift? Bending over and picking something up. Train the deadlift to save yourself the embarrassment of tweaking your back picking up a pen you dropped.

I’m not an athlete. Just a 49 year old guy trying to get strong ( and failing miserably). I love the deadlift even though I absolutely suck at it.

Depends on the sport. If there's an off-season, at the beginning of the off-season is when you train pure strength movements in a caloric surplus, then towards the end of the off-season you start cutting the fat and train explosive movements

Depends on what sport, for any full-body contact sport, the deadlift is incredible.

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Deadlifting is a great exercise bro, its just a different benifit from it than the other exercises you listed. Although those other exercises may help with power more so than the deadlift, the deadlift is a great exercise to make you very strong, theres also many deadlift variations than can help more with hypertrophy which can increase power and strength long term. Just use periodization if you want benifits from all exercises.

This is true, one time in college I asked a D1 football lineman how much he deadlifts and he told me he just does power cleans

With good form utilizing hamstrings, it's one of the best for acceleration and grip strength. Just gotta warm up really well and make sure to get good sleep/nutrition/hydration to avoid back injuries. Of course, this is after establishing technique.

You don't have to do deadlift "low reps." You can drop the weight and target failure at 10-15 reps for hypertrophy; this way you are less prone to injury from Oly lifts.

Cling and jerk add so much compressive force on to the body. Plus much more risk of injury. You are likely throwing a weight over your head at high speed.

I think that conv deadlifts aren’t very good along with sumo, but single leg rdls and trap bar has really helped me with basketball and football too

Me as a rugby player: Hmm sound like great advice.. (continues to DL 500 4x3)

I hate squats but love RDLs, because my cardio sucks and squats require it much more, while RDLs are easier on endurance.

I personally don’t understand why ppl hate on the DL for athletes. True it’s not the best lift to promote athleticism but it does increase strength and it can also improve recruitment of testosterone. If you get a sore lower back I’d personally recommend performing slow and controlled light weight Trap Bar DL, RDL, or a Good Morning over an Olympic style lift due to the technique needed to perform a clean/ snatch correctly. I’m not a strength coach tho just based off my thoughts and experiences I’ve gone through myself

Off-season, I see no reason not to do conventional deadlifts so long as you are proficient in the movement and listen to your body. In-season, sumo deadlifts are great as well as all the alternatives mentioned.

@SantosAl

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I would say off season build strength, in season focus on maintaining technique and the strength you have built. The closer you are to a competition the more sports specific ones training needs to be.

@godofnothing428

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Depends on the sports, sprinters or basketball players for example should stay away from deadlifts. (Use a trap bar if you absolutely want to deadlift)

Yeah you’re right, I do kickboxing I have problem with the footwork when I do a dead lift

It works everything.

Athletes, in general, should focus on building muscle, not strength. Strength gains on the deadlift only really apply to the deadlift, but bigger glutes, hamstrings, and spinal erectors improve every movement that involves those muscles.

@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662

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I am not sure I agree. The first part of your comment isn't really supported by the second part. "Focus on building muscle, not strength" isn't really the direction most people would go. Like, you are advocating hypertrophy over strength. Like, doing a high rep, low weight type of program does not seem useful at all. Also, different forms of deadlift have different EMG activation and predominantly activate different muscles that you are talking about. For instance, sumo deadlift activating the vastus lateralis might be more beneficial for a sport that uses that (cycling). Also, most of what you mentioned as a counter to the deadlift are posterior chain muscles, which the deadlift is great for.

@whitemakesright2177

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@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 Yes, hypertrophy has carryover to any movement involving the relevant muscles, while 1RM strength does not. If you're not a powrlifter, super low reps are a waste of time and energy. And no, hypertrophy training does not mean high reps and low weight. You can build muscle in a wide rep range, anywhere from about 5-30, as long as you're taking your sets close to failure. Close to failure is the key. So that means using an appropriate weight, i.e. if you're going for sets of 10, then you ought to use close to your 10RM.

Doing convencional deadlifts without belt and strap and double overhand grip opened my horizon

1 year later, algorithm recommends again. I agree that people like deadlift because it usually everyone's biggest lift.

As a tall guy i have pretty bad leverages for the deadlift. If I go for less squatty form and more pulling with a slight bend in the back (because of proportions), lifting off the toes (not traditionally recommended), i think it carries over to top speed hamstring use, as long as its paired with something explosive. If I do a more squatty lift off the heels, i think it carries over to 180 changes of direction (uncommon in most sports). Those other lifts are great, but i dont think you can use them for max str, with the exception of the trap bar deadlift, which with my leverages is basically a squat.

Awesome clip

My personal best lift hot 405 once stopped after a long time but I remembered why I stopped. Even on much lighter weights I was always in pain when doing so, even with several people assessing my form making sure it was good. Probably won't ever go back

The clean is nothong but a light deadlift which is why it can be done fast. 2 guys with the same explosive ablity the one with the higher deadlift will clean the most.

the *best* *deadlift* *version* is the _weightlifting style SNATCH_ deadlift. it trains the legs, the posterior chain, the shoulders and the back, hell even the arms, because they get stretched with 40 % more force (due to the 45° inclination of the arms) relatively to the weight you're lifting

Love hate relationship with it. As i got older, i began tweaking my back more when moving the weight. Stiff hamstrings didnt help. I have to lead with good stretching. Also, it has to be the first exercise, because fatigue and deadlifts often = injury for me

Damaged myself forever deadlifting, I was born decent, 2.0x body weight at 13 but I just took it too far and now I’m compromised athletically, if I focused on accessories for my main lifts I would be fine.

The deadlift makes you stronger much faster than any other lift and it helps a lot in explosive strength.

I don’t like snatches because if you drop the bar, you are breaking your neck

I love the Romanian deadlift. Hits the hams and glutes a bit more

As a wrestler. No, maybe as I age I’ll stop but for now I’ll stick with em

Split stance deadlift active feet heel off/ knee slightly over toes is better transfer in my opinion

Snatching for sports performance is an absolute waste of time. It requires so much skill and the risk of you getting injured by dropping the bar is also high. It only builds explosiveness in that particular movement so other than snatch it won't really Carry over to other movements in sports

Agree clean and press is natural hay bale movement.

The zercher deadlift has great carryover to all forms of wrestling.

Keep in mind yall a deadlift is the bottom half of a clean so stop acting like he's saying its not supposed to be done. Hes saying athletes need to focus explosiveness so the clean and others are more optimal

It's just a weird lift to program. For general population I prefer the RDL for muscle development and mobility gains. I'd say the same for the athlete. So the only people I would program a deadlift is people that like deadlifting.

“I feel…”

deadlifts done right made me stronger with no back pain also enhances posture.

I have mixed feelings about this but I will say something I heard that makes a lot of sense to me is if you are not competing in powerlifting that trap bar deadlift can be a lot safer than straight bar deadlifts

Clean and jerk is super high mileage for an athlete. Think about it you are accelerating a bar to high speed then slowing it down rapidly