I'm sure you and the boys are up to the challenge of creating your own $400 DIY tyre warmers.

@Doug_in_NC

9 ай бұрын

$550 each actually seems pretty reasonable considering it’s not just a blanket, but includes all the sensors etc too.

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

@@Doug_in_NC it’s not just the sensors is the data recording and login of all settings. What time how much power was consumed in the two hours prior to the race

@BabyMakR

9 ай бұрын

I could probably do it for $50 and a carton. In Australia, the blankets have been banned for a while. They leave the tyres out in the sun.

@davelangford2439

9 ай бұрын

They don't cost much more than £400 each anyway so that's not much of a challenge.

@Doug_in_NC

9 ай бұрын

@@BabyMakR I can’t see that being an effective solution on a rainy afternoon at Spa. 😂😂

Flashback to a certain someone using tire blankets on a Caterham with F1 tires.

@groundedgaming

9 ай бұрын

They literally sneaked in their own video as a source and expected us to not notice!

@paulalexander8874

9 ай бұрын

And a Ka... 👀😂

Would have been nice to know how much power each blanket draws (typically, sure once up to temperature it will draw less than cold). Is this on the order off 100 W ea. or 10 kW ea.?

@sudazima

9 ай бұрын

looking at the size and construction it will be a few kW. also the main costs here really arent quality or smth but the fact they are made by hand for a niche market so no economies of scale.

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

One set takes 16 A is 10 amps rear 6 ams front on first initial switch on and then moderates obviously through for the next two hours. The 22,000 is for 14 sets per car. Per race, including free charges. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Mike Drury, inventor, tyre warmers

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

@@ploploprob 16 A is for all four tires as I said, they do modulate because they’re insulated with aramid and nomex and silver 4 ounce PU and two layers of Merclon hope this helps and answers your questions

@Omn1potenc3

9 ай бұрын

I did some fast calculations, tire set weights about 10kg, to heat 10kg from 20C to 100C. You need about 1,5kW tire heater for about 40min... But if this calculation are way of because you heat tire not the rim... IMHO in reality it doesnt need so much power

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

@@Omn1potenc3 it’s not just the tire we need to heat. Sometimes we have sea white spot nitrogen carbon monoxide and argon gas mixtures in the tires so they’re in so they are inert. I know we are using blown magnesium rims. It’s important to get the rims up to temperature as well as the tire to stabilise the pressures.

Banning tyre blankets because they consume too much energy has to be dumbest thing ever.

@vapeymcvape5000

9 ай бұрын

not really.

@_chipin

9 ай бұрын

Nope moving to V6's was the dumbest thing ever ⛳

@ElGuatequero

9 ай бұрын

@@vapeymcvape5000 imagine the energy impact of the tyre blanket use vs the Formula 1 circus moving all his teams around the world thru the season. Its a total nonsense to only look good.

@Apple_Beshy

8 ай бұрын

yes it's stupid, f1 team travel all around the world to race and Airplanes is much much worse to environment compared to those blankets@@vapeymcvape5000

@guavaice1

6 ай бұрын

The energy is just an excuse, cause the teams are paying for their own energy consumption. I think it has to do with tire blankets improving tire life because of less heat cycles, but that doesn't make sense either because all teams use tire blankets. FIA being as dumb as ever.

FIA World Endurance Championship the drivers and teams requested several warm up laps to heat up their tires before the start of each race do to safety concerns. In some IMSA series races I've seen mistake were made because the driver tried to push for better position after pitting with fresh tires. Those cold tires can lead some "Argee Bargee" into the tire barrier.

@bertram-raven

9 ай бұрын

From experience I know tyre formulations for some racing series make cold tyres akin to driving on glass. Returning to tyres which do not require heating will mean more tyres are consumed during events where very high energy is put through the tyres under load. Think of how long an F1 intermediate or wet tyre lasts once the track is dry; now multiply that by the number of pit-stops required to reach the end of a race. If the end game is to move to race tyres which do not require heating, motorsport would need to return to engine power levels of the 1950s.

The story of the guys that invented tyre warmers is a fantastic story

This video gives a decent description of what tyre blankets are but doesn't cover the reason for their price at all when there are plenty of tyre blankets on the market for a fraction of the cost.

@gaveintothedarkness

9 ай бұрын

"Because it's F1"

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

The ones we manufacture in Formula One contain nomex Ahmed sorted materials to stand 700 Celsius and last for five years warranted I’ll programmers have to store and then send information to the factory to the team and the FIA and save the car hitting the wall damage in court of £1 million worth a car. I think it’s a good investment

I’ve waited years for these things to die. It will be very good for the sport. Every team has two complete tire warmers for free. The drivers.

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

They’ve been brought back in time and time again for safety reasons for the drivers so we don’t lose any small crash in Formula One is normally quarter of £1 million. They pay for themselves over and over again

Bet that's not even New York rent to sleep in a blanket

Heating is not that complicated, sure you need durable material, but £22K is nuts

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

The 22K is for 14 sets to be flown around the world, not the price per set Mike Drury, inventor, Tyer heaters

@harry4454

9 ай бұрын

If you paid attention you'd notice a set costs just over 3K

@daarom3472

9 ай бұрын

why don't the F1 teams get a mandated use of max 1 set of blankets per race? It's not as if the team needs 14... just swap!

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

@@MomPickMeUpImScared-st4wi with respect, I sell them to the teams, so I think I should know

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

@@daarom3472 during qualifying they can use up to 10 sets takes two hours to eat them to temperature work it out mate

3:13 That pic of LH in a tyre warmer is gold!

Nelson Piquet was doing this in the mid 70s, first using a heated tent, then a eletric-heated furnace for his tires in formula 3. Along with screw and later cable-operated brake bias and roll bars

What about having active valves on the tyres? Have it so that they can be pressured to their running pressures but have the valve able to release pressure, pre-set, so not something the driver can activate, when the pressure reaches a certain point. Not able to pump more pressure into it, but can at lease start with full pressure.

@12th.jahlil

9 ай бұрын

Theres a kart team that runs in the USA that i think got caught doing that, it is insane how well that works

I have tyre warmers I use on my road race sidecar. The main benefit is tyre life, as you are having less heat cycles so the tyres last longer. They cost me $600 Australian.

Best journalist for F1! keep it up!

Roughly $550 per blanket doesn’t seem that unreasonable considering it’s including the sensors and wiring harness, pressure sensors, Kevlar draw strings and everything else.

@Bullseiify

9 ай бұрын

Isn't it 22k? That makes it 5500, not 550

@eslmatt811

9 ай бұрын

​@@Bullseiifyat the end of the video they clarify it is 22k for 10 sets. Really quite reasonable for f1.

@Doug_in_NC

9 ай бұрын

@@Bullseiify $22K for a race - roughly 10 sets of tires. The screen shot from the company that sold them showed $2200 per set.

@Doug_in_NC

9 ай бұрын

@@eslmatt811 especially as they probably last a few races or even a season.

They cost 22K because they are sold to F1, lol. These do not cost over 700€ to produce, per unit, all included. The control unit and it’s programming is trivial and quality components for that will set you back 70€ at most. Energy consumption is BS! Each one will pull 2Kw (most likelly not even 1Kw because the heating curve desired is gentle). 80 tyre sets heating up for 24hours, (across the weekend), would equate to 1500€ of electric bill so… (Just for context I manufacture hardware where we use these kind of heating sollutions)

A heated blanket for my bed does not stop me slipping on spilled water during the night...

It could also be like the wedding phenomenon. You mention "Formula 1" and the price automagically triples.

Great video, Thanks for the info

I didn't know this has such complexity. Thank you 👍

Masterworks: When you really want to get a piece of the new tulip market.

@tHebUm18

9 ай бұрын

Nah, tulips have more liquidity

Lets be honest, its not because of technology, its because of monopoly. There isnt 20 manufacturers that make these, maybe two if even that. Same for airlines, theres like 2 brands that make all the interior machines. The industrial microwave is like $12.000. No microwave is worth $12.000 but since nobody else is making them or has the license to do so, they can charge. Obviously its different than the regular one but point is...heating wrappers arent 20K because its some insane tech behind it.

They cost 20k in order to give bosses millions in bonuses every year

F1 is crazy!

Ayyyyy glad my antics made it to a Driver61 video 😂

When the idea of banning tyre blankets is floated around people do rightly point out that with current tyres it would be impractical (they're not designed for it, after all), so I'm curious as to why no one says anything about new tyres designed to heat up faster on track. I'm aware it's hardly a small investment to entirely redesign the tyres to cope with running from cold (hardly an insurmountable task considering a lot of racing series don't use tyre blankets) but the possibility always seems conspicuously absent outside of comments.

@Tacgibs

9 ай бұрын

Quick answer : 1. Extreme downforce 2. Extreme power 3. Operating range is physically limited (unless you create a new revolutionary compound) 4. Safety I get your point, but beware of the Dunning-Kruger's effect ;)

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

We spend more on coffee and rubbish in Formula One than we do on Tyer heaters to keep the car. Safe and drivers scratching. Formula One is 150,000 bad knock is quarter of 1 million work it out.

EllO from south Africa, cant seem to find the link for the F1 Kimi drive competition. Awesome how you engineer the how it works. Love IT! Sim Racer in RSA and F1 Addict

I used heated bed blankets when I Autocrossed, and a Honda generator, till I wasn't any longer allowed to! 😂😂😂

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

That’s just sad

As someone who enjoys Formula 1 based on the advanced technology used, and in hopes of that tech trickling down to us consumers... I think tire blankets should slowly be phased out, whether that means we need tires that work decent in colder temperatures or cars that can more easily put heat into their tires I'm not sure... But tire blankets just seem silly to me as a tech enthusiast...

Super Aguri coated the inside of a tyre storage cupboard with flattened out tyre blankets and used them to make a tyre-blanket-box which heated the entire wheel and tyre evenly rather than just the surface. The tyres were removed from the box and wrapped in blankets before fitting to the car. SA's argument is the rule which says they can only use tyre blankets to warm the tyres was met. At the time you were allows to put tyres in blankets in an enclosure, so SA rightly argued there was no rule against using the tyre blankets at *a distance inside an enclosure.* The FiA banned the device "on safety grounds" (total nonsense) and added a "no-alteration of usage" clause for the following year.

I met Mike at COTA during the first ever pit lane walk in 2012. Nice guy.

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

Hi mate, it’s Mike thanks for your comment. I still have that nice guy but there’s an awful lot of fools out there who have no understanding of thermal technology believe they do. I hope you’re all well. Love to catch up with you again over there. Kind regards Mike Drury F1

Typo in 0:00 its now Forumla Gotta say thats a good name for a forum 😂

Can you warm tires by adjusting brake balance to front and step on the throttle... You create friction by braking on first and power on rear tires, traction?

@1TieDye1

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like it would create a lot of wear on the tires

@Omn1potenc3

9 ай бұрын

Wear is traction, traction will generate heat

@marcflis4053

9 ай бұрын

you dont have to change balance, the heat from the rotor gets to the tire well enough

Can I ask if there is a height/ weight limit for the driving experiance (I don't see many 6ft 5" tall 17 stone F1 drivers😊

@joelrodriguez9611

9 ай бұрын

Alex Wurz is +190 centimeters and was F1 racer, in a time where weight and height would matter more. Nowadays the cars are large enough to design and fit any driver, and the minimum weight per car balance the things enough I guess. But hope somebody who knows best comes and clears this up.

@bertram-raven

9 ай бұрын

@@joelrodriguez9611 The last time the competition was run it was clear I was too tall, 194cm, to enter. Here are the current entrant rules: Must speak and understand English or French fluently Must be a minimum age of 22 and a maximum age of 65 Must hold a full current and valid driving licence or racing licence Must be between 1.55 metres and 1.85 metres in height Must not weigh more than 90 kgs Foot size must not exceed EU 45 Must have ensured with a Doctor that he/she does not have a medical contraindication to the practice of motorsport on a racetrack, and that he/ she will not be under the influence of any medical treatment or any other substance contradictory to driving (unless submission of a Doctor’s Certificate) Must not have any previous heart conditions or history of epilepsy, head trauma with or without loss of consciousness, dizziness, slipped disc or hernia (unless submission of a Doctor’s Certificate) Must notify Driver61 of any medical condition that he/she suffers from, or have suffered from and/or any medical treatment that he/she is undergoing which may impair his/her judgment or reaction speed; or which may affect his/her ability to drive a motor racing vehicle on a racetrack Must have good eyesight; Must not be pregnant

4:57 that’s a grow tent brother 🇯🇲 ⛺️

I wonder is there some sort of technology which can transfer the heat generated by the engine to the tyres??? It could help replace tyre blankets

@ATEC101

9 ай бұрын

It's called the brakes. Been around for quite awhile.

Best drivers in the world should be able to handle cold tires. Indycar doesn't use blankets and one of the most exciting things can be a guy coming out of the pits on cold tires being chased down by someone who pitted earlier and has hot tires.

@f.b.i2644

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, the racing would be a bit better because there would be more of a challenge for the drivers. Indycar is better than F1 anyways, F1 only races on road and street courses while Indycar races on road and street courses as well as ovals!

Can you please make a video explaining why f1 cars or other racing cars don't use all wheel drive???

I don't think it's a good idea to bann tyre blankets. If you need more time to heat up the tyre after a pitstop you lose more time with a pit stop, so we would have more 1 stopp races and the driver would have to safe more tyres while driving.

20k for simple heating coils 🤦🏿‍♂️

@1draigon

9 ай бұрын

I mean Make it cheaper and sell it to them if you think they’re SO expensive haha the control units are the most expensive after all

@RafelioPsi

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@1draigon yeah, "control units" is the way to make few cents of electronics look more expensive

@kobestheg.o.a.t5022

9 ай бұрын

American Military Contractors be like😂

@charliemaybe

9 ай бұрын

i imagine it is 20k for like a hundred of these blankets for a bunch of sets of tires for each driver

@Nathan0A

9 ай бұрын

I believe what the video is saying is that *not* using tyre blankets costs $21k a lap, actual cost of the tyre blankets is $2k per

if f1 want to get rid tire blanket, probably give another way to heated the tire, like tire oven, and between tire oven and put into the car, have unpowered insulated tire blanket

Is there anyway to enter the competition by paying with anything else then a master card? I’d really like to give you my money but I can’t! Great content as usual, thanks for great video and amazing opportunities.

who ever wins have fun out there!

1:06 You: ...load the tire up in the corners and along the straights. Me: So the entire racetrack?

next you'll tell us that they started to put metal particles in the rubber so they can heat them with induction

Shame there's no renewable ways to generate energy that might be employed in the vast areas of empty space that often accompany these sorts facilities where the downtime between events would allow for the generation and storage of the required power and excess power generated during inactive periods could like help support the power grid or something. Damn tyre warmers.

Without the undercut, how will cars pass?

Starting of the video you wrote forumla instead of formula and it bothered me the whole time. I was reading it cuz the video was not loaded yet. 😂

I wanted to enter the contest for the F1 experience, but i live in Brazil. Why can´t I?

i thought the point of the tyre blanket ban was to introduce tyres with a wider operating temperature range?

They cost 22k so that you can make videos about it costing 22k.

Listening to F1 drivers stating that driving the first outlap on cold tires would look "stupid", makes you wonder if they've ever seen an Indycar race. Cold tires are part of the strategy and an element of show. In F1 everything has to be made super easy for the driver. It doesn't have to be that way, as Indycar shows. (and before someone will say that Indycar is an inferior spec car series, stop it, as it's irrelevant).

motorcycle tire warmers are like $200 for the set. or like $300 for good ones. I don't understand why they would be any more than a grand.

If it takes skill to warm up the tires then they should be cold. I understand the concept of heating them but if it takes away from part of thr skill set to be a great driver then why no ban them

Nitrous Blankets for a little 10lb bottle go for $150 for a tiny little patch about 25cm square. Or 1sq/ft F1 tire surface area is about 1.75m square. X4 tires roughly. 7m square. About 75 x the area of a nitrous bottle heater. Multiply that out at $150 x 75 gives you aprox $11,200 Now consider how shit quality a simple thermal switch / pressure switch operated nitrous blanket is and compare that to an F1 tire heater and you get how the price escalates so dramatically.

Already training my neck and calves to drive an F1 car.

I wonder, could they use heated nitrogen gas to help bring the tire to temp faster from the inside. I suppose the density of the nitrogen would not carry enough heat and then it would drop it pressure as it cooled needing to be continuously monitored and adjusted. If they ban the blankets I’m sure they will come up with something interesting.

If I were to drive an F1 car, I want to drive a Ferrari Vee Ten.

If FIA want's to cut energy costs, ban electric of diesel tyre ovens, but allow team to have some sort of solar chamber to get som heat in

This is called a kickback, kiddos!

20k for some 4 gauge coils, a slim relay and a basic use chip. F1 really is doing these different

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

I don’t cost 22,000 it’s what it cost for 14 sets per car in airfreight around the world per race

Max really sounded like he was talking out of somewhere other than his mouth in that quote...

Great video 👍

And here i just been throwing some bleach down and letting 'er eat with a burnout...... Who knew i was saving 22k per corner? Hahahh😂

Get me in that f1 car

Hi Scott, could you please add Belgium to the list of countries for the competition to win an F1 car drive? 😭😆😆😆

I am giving aa vid down because the payment portal in the competition for the F1 experience doesn't even know Czech Republic !! There are smaller countries and all of our neighbours.. Hell even Slovakia.. But I can't fill my card credentials correctly if I can't choose my country to match the card!!!

They cost 22K because the teams are willing to pay it!

Only Master card!!! ???? I want to enter the competition!!! Any other way? 😢

Still doesnt explain the 22,000 pound tag....

Glad to learn I could totally afford a set of tyre blankets. I couldn't run them but I don't need to on my car anyway, so...

Ditch the blankets and cut the width of the tyres in half.

So why 50€ elictric blanket set to, what my wife calls 'midly warm 😅' costs 22.000€?

he doesnt have to guess if they cost more, he just needs to do the Power=i*v calculation

They cost that much because the teams are willing to pay that much. No way a bit of heat tracing, RTDs and a blanket cost 22k

Because it’s F1. It doesn’t have to make sense, just know it’s a stupid amount of money I’ll never afford.

@2Fast4Mellow

9 ай бұрын

It's all about ROI. Teams have done the calculations and even buying very expensive tire blankets generated a higher return than not using them. Why is Mercedes willing to pay Lewis more than 50 million a year for his new contract, because his input - both on and off track - is worth more. F1 is a business and business employ only invest in technology that give them an edge. This is a big difference with governments which just spend other peoples money...

@LBKXiLo

9 ай бұрын

@@2Fast4Mellow please tell me how 22 grand heat pads are worth it? Paying drivers is completely understandable, BUT 22k FOR HEATING PADS? I’m sorry that’s just ridiculousz

Hate this idea of banning tyre blankets altogether, it's a deadly recipe and the FIA are badgering on about safety

I would listen to Max, and other drivers....I may be ignorant, but isn't there risk envolved , when a driver gets out there with tires that need warming, but they are racing, and may take more risks ??

I'm certainly no expert in these matters. But is someone who works in kitchens. Couldn't they use the ventilation from the catering facility that each team has. To warm the tyres in a warming cabinet. Granted you may not be getting the tyres too warm. But something better that nothing.

It seems like a tire blanket costs about 2,000 pounds. Why does the title say 22,000?

@Umski

9 ай бұрын

Click bait?

22k per weekend? surely they're adjustable and reusable?

I would expect if they banned heating blankets, we'd end up with the heating wire cast into the tyre rubber itself.

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

How would you balance the tire?

@bytesandbikes

9 ай бұрын

@@f1mad957 you balance the tyre and wheel together, as normal. I don't think it would be too difficult to have a wire pattern that is naturally balanced.

I think F1 should start reducing tyre warmers to just two/three set, and only for race. But it's ridiculous how they can't handle it while F2, F3, Indycar and many more racing series doesn't "look stupid" because of it

if they pay 20k for that... i have a rock that keeps cancer away...

Tried to enter the contest. MasterCard payments, only, are accepted. Weird. Eh well.

Great video. But man masterworks is mega shady. Hope you find better sponsors 😢

BRO HOLI SHIT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS ABRAHAM LINCON ON THIS GUY'S PROFILE PHOTO

that's one year of my uni fees on a tire XD

Man please let portguese people enter the contest to drive the F1 car, pleeeeaase

SnapOn cost more than that

22,000 pounds? Wow that's heavy!😃

@f1mad957

9 ай бұрын

The true price is 11,000 per set and have to be warranted for five years unconditional the 22,000 is for flying assets around the world Kind regards, Mike, Drury, inventor, tire blankets

Has anyone ever tried using HOT AIR to inflate the tires?

they cost so much because they have the 'F1' prefix on their name

Mate, I don't have Mastercard. Visa only.

F1 going wooke!

I just have a fleece blanket at home

You have responsability on your ads and sponsors. Keep that in mind.

@NinjaTu2

9 ай бұрын

I use ad block and skip sponsorships

So teams are really dumb enough to buy what looks like a heating pad snake, for that type of money?

27k US $