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@AL-lh2ht

Ай бұрын

Isn’t this “idiot index” like a basic business concept.

@LuisSierra42

Ай бұрын

@@AL-lh2ht re-branded by Elon

@DivaAnnFisher

Ай бұрын

I am permanently banned from tweeting on X! When I wrote, "What tweet was in violation of what rule?", I received no response. -- The best I can figure is I had written criticisms of Rachel Maddow and Michael Dell. Some with 4 million views. Maybe their social media connected people colluded with Elon Musk social media people? -- Elon Musk "absolute free expression" is a lie. FIX IT, ELON MUSK.

@camplethargic8

Ай бұрын

Now let's hear about X-formerly-known-as-Twitter. Then, maybe pay tribute to Musk's politics ("My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci" -EM). Or, are you trolling us for clicks?

@ricinro

Ай бұрын

There are many types of idiot indexes. The leader that would employ bullying and berating would get a higher idiot rating than a leader who could achieve the same with kinder manners.

Elon: "If you don't know this weird accounting metric that I invented, I'll treat you like shit."

@hammer-and-thumb

16 күн бұрын

This was not unknown, it was widely communicated within the company. Managers should know common terms used in the business especially if they are part of the company's unique approach to business.

@markteague8889

14 күн бұрын

Yeah! That was a pretty dick move to do to someone in a meeting. Why not just share with everyone the idea of the metric; and then, ask them to think about it. I suppose there are different management / leadership styles. And sometimes, you need to use negative feedback to motivate people. The AMA defines a manager as someone who accomplishes work through others. In order to do so, you need to understand what motivates people and you should also have some understanding of the factors influencing the lives of your immediate / direct reports.

@BillClinton228

14 күн бұрын

That's pretty much every software engineer

@user-nh3gu1ge3d

11 күн бұрын

Knowing how much the materials cost is a "weird accounting metric" to you? Elon was right and you're dumb and soft. Cry about it.

@barbados3592

9 күн бұрын

if only they put you in charge bro. then we'd see REAL results.

I'm reminded that a pound of iron is extremely cheap, but when fashioned into sewing needles, that same pound of iron increases in value hundreds of times.

@georgewashington938

16 күн бұрын

sounds like Adam Smith

@DataWaveTaGo

16 күн бұрын

A Mars bound Starship has just a single use. No going back to earth.

@Pooua

15 күн бұрын

​@@DataWaveTaGoStarship is supposed to be capable of making several round trips.

@kevinmathewson4272

13 күн бұрын

figures a billionaire would not appreciate that labor costs money.

@DataWaveTaGo

12 күн бұрын

@@Pooua "supposed" is the key concept here.

Wow, don't ever tell Elon how much Twitter was.🤣

@jamescarter8311

Ай бұрын

Musk said Twitter wasn't about the money before he even purchased it. It was about having a platform for free speech. That said, X is doing fine.

@meilyn22

Ай бұрын

​@jamescarter8311 must be an idiot to believe that. He was forced to buy Twitter, just FYI.

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

Well, there is no much material in Twitter so the ratio is 40 Bilions totally inefficient.

@dadejazzba402

Ай бұрын

They lied and a lib "judge...lol" OK'd it

@meilyn22

Ай бұрын

@@jamescarter8311He was forced to buy Twitter. Stop the cap!

So let’s just use more expensive raw materials, and the idiot index will improve 😁

@RavarsenBlogspot

Ай бұрын

Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

@giorgiobarchiesi5003

Ай бұрын

@@RavarsenBlogspot Or a smart sarcastic person. Who knows?

@MrRaulstrnad

Ай бұрын

there it is, one of the many flaws in musk cult thinking@@giorgiobarchiesi5003

@sriharshacv7760

Ай бұрын

Elon will accept your resignation. Lol.

@blucat4

Ай бұрын

@@giorgiobarchiesi5003 No, smart people wouldn't even say that as a joke. You're fired!

Some parts have low material cost but need to be produced on expensive machinery, others using ip. So often the cost of materials is irrelevant. What's relevant is whether the part is good value or not.

@sean-colinfort2111

Ай бұрын

Baselines are necessary. Without the "Idiot Index" how would you evaluate?

@Pumba_PIG

Ай бұрын

@@sean-colinfort2111 its dumb. For example, the raw material cost of a quality watch is about $1. Would you spend a million $ setting up a fa tory to make one and hire those with knowhow to operate the factory and then do all the testing just to make a one piece or would you just pay the $500 and save yourself a million bucks.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

@@sean-colinfort2111 Idiot index is idiotic. Your first port of call is to check what are the most expensive parts, functions, procedures etc in your operation. Then you see if you can do without them. Next you see if you can BUY them parts cheaper. In a market economy there is a reason for the price of any goods and services and that market price is usually a good indication of the true cost of if. The cost of setting up production and the capital investment needed usually means that usually means that no single consumer of goods can cost effectively produce those goods. Like car manufactures do not manufacture steel, even Apple does not actually manufacture the M-chips, they have them made. And on a higher business level making anything at lower cost usually means driving the price of what you are selling down as the competition follows. So you end up doing more and getting less per unit which makes it harder to make a buck. High price low volume is much easier that high volume low price. Especially if the demand is limited ... and this begs the question for the demand of payloads that Super Heavy can carry.... the word idiotic springs to mind.

@snakevenom4954

Ай бұрын

If a pump is made out of titanium and costs thousands of dollars to machine, why not make it out of cheaper steel? A titanium pump is good value, but a steel one would be better value

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

@@snakevenom4954 Wood would be cheaper, pitty all those stupid engineers at the other aerospace companies did not realise this and it took the genius of Musk to realise that.

Isn't the Idiot Index just a very small part of the complex Cost Management that is done by every manufacturer in the world?

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

basic capitalism

@alexi9108

Ай бұрын

Sure it is.

@ricinro

Ай бұрын

a corporate celebrity coins euphemisms. folks in the trenches are forced to learn new lingo.

@wkrp10splayer19

Ай бұрын

yes. but musk sycophants assure us that he created the formula for water

@MrRaulstrnad

Ай бұрын

zes but musk is overdoing it better yet musk fans don't really understand what technical development entails

It's easy to be a "leader" when you are the main shareholder and the guy who gets all the reward and the limelight.

The idiot index is what the name says. One Snapdragon SoC can cost $100, but the raw parts, ten microgram of silicon, one gram of epoxy resin may be cost five cents. That has a very high idiot index, and there is no way to reduce it...

@fireiceuk9221

Ай бұрын

I am mentally appending an " 's" to make it an "Idiot's Index" and filing it with the same management-babble as OODA loop, i.e, things that sound plausible if you don't know anything about a particular subject and therefore are highly appealing to higher management.

@TobiKellner

Ай бұрын

Now imagine the index for software...

@bojangles2492

Ай бұрын

What it does is force you to look at the high ratio parts and see if you can reduce their cost it doesn't mean you can reduce it.

@Typexviiib

Ай бұрын

I dont think you get the point, and ill use your example. That chip gets cheaper every year as manufacturing processes improve. The silicone didnt get any cheaper in the last 30 years but the performance per gram of silicone has exponentially increased without a corresponding price increase. The idiot index on cpus is closing

@jieli4589

Ай бұрын

Different industries will have different baseline

What's the idiot index on buying Twitter for 40 Billion?

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

We'd have to know the price of all the fundamental components of twitter's infrastructure and you could create the ratio. But I have a feeling you think the idiot index is a ranking not a ratio. Good job

@michaelnoble2432

16 күн бұрын

Musk was forced to pay that much by the courts. He wanted to back out when he found out that he'd been misled about the real state of Twitter.

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

@@gramma677 still, ratio gives ranking. Good job not seeing that.

His 'idiot index' is itself not very bright. For example, with microchips, the cheapest chips are quite cheap, and the most expensive ones are quite pricey, yet the cost of 'raw materials' is trivial in each case. You need to employ a much more comprehensive paradigm to judge what is a reasonable cost for 'item A'.

@sriharshacv7760

Ай бұрын

There are quite a few things it doesn't apply to. At least microchips have silicon cost. Software products are virtual. Doesn't mean 0 cost. It is cost of the service. In the industry Elon Musk operates, idiot index is a way to triage parts whose production can be potentially streamlined.

@blucat4

Ай бұрын

Yes, it's well named in that sense. You do of course need to make things efficient, but the way it's presented doesn't value the design and cost of making the parts etc.

@DNomer

Ай бұрын

@@sriharshacv7760 Yes, but consider the cost of 'raw' materials for microchips. The actual raw cost of sand is about $55/ton. That doesn't mean anything, really. You have to at least talk about a silicon ingot, which has LOTS of special processing involved in specialized facilities, etc. So it is not a 'raw' material. His idiot index does not really work.

@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp

Ай бұрын

You sound like all those who "fight the system" when it comes to implementing the Standards for Cost accounting systems - claiming that it is an absurdity to have to write down which jobs and how long they have used a hammer. Like in everything when it comes to analysis -therer is a "general" category. No - nails are not individuallyrecordedd inthe warehousee records.

@stevenwoerpel1884

29 күн бұрын

Generally there are not rules that apply to everything. He is not making micro chips, and if he was he would obviously understand that final price / raw materials does not make sense.

This isn't just an Elon thing. This is a hard lesson about the corporate world. When you have a crucial deliverable, bosses don't care about what's going on in your private life. It's not fun, but it is the truth!!!

@ToadyMcgee

Ай бұрын

One of the things wrong in our society

@Supreme_Lobster

Ай бұрын

@@ToadyMcgee not really

@Supreme_Lobster

Ай бұрын

@@ToadyMcgee when you negotiate a salary this is exactly what you are negotiating. "how much do you have to pay me for me to not care about the fact that you dont give a sheit about me as a person?"

@ToadyMcgee

Ай бұрын

@@Supreme_Lobster We're wired differently. Let's agree to disagree.

@kmkvarma

Ай бұрын

She clearly said Elon didn’t know it at that time that he is going through something traumatic personally

as an industrial engineer I can say that only an idiot could think about an index like that

@ellsworthm.toohey7657

16 күн бұрын

I feel the same ! I realized musk was a con man years ago with the Hyperloop, boring company etc.... Luckily, he has a church of followers that are better idiots !

@aaronpierson8748

14 күн бұрын

This is why engineers are managed by accountants.

@BillClinton228

14 күн бұрын

Anyone who says "I know more about manufacturing than anyone alive" is displaying the dunning kruger effect... they are an idiot is what I'm trying to say.

@ophello

14 күн бұрын

Why is it wrong to do things efficiently and spend less money?

@alexanderkozlov7394

14 күн бұрын

@@ophello nothing is wrong with efficiency, but there are some rules in order to set an efficiency index properly. One of those rules is "relevance". In any industrial processes there are many costs beyond "raw material". Sometimes the raw material costs could be irrelevant. This dumb index would consider "idiotic" all the following: farmaceutical (main cost: R&D) semiconductors (main cost: equipment) aerospace (main costs: all the above plus advanced quality control in order to prevent the destruction of the whole vehicle)

Behind the lenses he is looking at these components to answer the age old question "Is it worth manufacturing the item on my own?" vs purchasing it.

The only one who will not be held accountable for a bad idea is Elon himself.

@ToiChutGongFu

Ай бұрын

He's the boss of his companies and loses money from his bad ideas, he can't fire himself can he? Try harder Elon hater.

@sa34w

Ай бұрын

Because he has points he has achieved by creating Paypal , Tesla , Space X, Open AI , Boring company , Neuralink etc. how many people do you know who have at-least close to innovative companies Elon has invested , worked and driven in a leadership role. Your competence matters in real life. If you are Jay Z people will value your opinion in music even if your life is questionable, same with Elon . He excels in working in Tech

@jespado

Ай бұрын

@@sa34w I think you need to read up a bit on what he has “created”. For sure not PayPal and OpenAI he has sued. Boring company is basically gone and X is down the drain. Weird that you didn’t mention the extremely successful hyper loop project that he started and fooled many to invest time and money into for his own personal benefits. Tesla and SpaceX are successful but I can assure you that starship will never land on the moon.

@siquod

Ай бұрын

Oh, he is held accountable. But his accounts can afford to lose a few billion. Only if he does too much stupid stuff he'll actually feel the consequences.

@alexi9108

Ай бұрын

He did none of this. His dad's money did. He has an iq of an average entitled frat dude. ​@@sa34w

This is a pretty stupid index. Lets take some products with Really large ratios. Product. A silicon chip. Raw material. A pinch of sand. Product, a single strand of DNA containing the genome for a custom designed organism. Input, raw amino acids. In the DNA example, designing the custom life form is going to take a lot of smart biologists, who want paid. Designing chips takes a lot of smart chip designers. The equipment to turn silicon into the chip is also expensive. Labor and equipment costs are real and important and having them be larger than material costs isn't a sign that anything is wrong.

My idiot index is how much a person admires Elon Musk :D

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

how does it work or you just heard those words and used them in a sentence?

@GItoKeG

18 күн бұрын

Admired him enough to leave a comment about him on a video about him....lol

@entrippyZ

18 күн бұрын

The index is working, look theres two now!

@gramma677

17 күн бұрын

@@entrippyZ irony lol.

@teemuleppa3347

17 күн бұрын

only reason to not have respect for him is if your ideology differs frim his....beyond that...his track record is quite unique with ppl currently alive.....and your differing ideology _should not_ matter because its irrelevant for the subject....it tells quite a lot about you as a person.

Landing the Rocket...When Gravity is Free is a Hugh Idiot Index...🤣

@sir_albaxious1909

Ай бұрын

GENIUS!!!

@Darth_Bateman

Ай бұрын

. . . . . ugh. . .

@ConnorAustin

Ай бұрын

Landing the rocket 10,000$ beuilding new rocket 5-10 million$ idiot index of 500/1 or 1000/1 so who is the idiot

@Runnmill

Ай бұрын

Biggest idiot

@summerbreeze5115

Ай бұрын

Yup Musk is an idiot

I like the name : “Idiot Index”. But I would take a different index. “Total cost” vs “Payload”. Just googled, whether Balloons are already used instead of rocket and found : Launching Rockets from Balloons is About to be a Thing, But We Need a Better Name than “Rockoons” I am not sure, whether I like the name *Rockoons* . But I like the idea and we should forget about classic Rockets. There are a couple of other ideas, but Rockoons can be the cheapest.

The way you repeatedly saying f ing f ing .. its hilarious 😆 😂

There is a vast over-simplification using "idiot-index" in this video. This isn't something new from Elon Musk. It has been around for decades: think of Lean and The Toyota Way and the topic is far more nuanced than just slashing costs. I hope they didn't cut out so many of the processes to make the Raptor engine cheaper so as to make it unsafe. As an engineer, I can tell you that this is a fine line to thread and any poor decision making to make cost an issue over safety would ultimately have real-world life ending consequences. Think of Challenger, Columbia and more recently Boeing. And, pssst, physics also doesn’t care about the bottom line.

@PartnershipsForYou

28 күн бұрын

Sure but Elon is still a cuck

Elon is the benchmark for the idiot index.

@dthornto31

Ай бұрын

Everyone in the room is now dumber after reading your remark

@nerenahd

Ай бұрын

@@dthornto31 Even idiots have fan-boys and cult followers.

@ToiChutGongFu

Ай бұрын

Ever wonder how high your idiot index is?

@shanep.9442

Ай бұрын

You've outed yourself as a complete fool.

@michaelbierek1385

Ай бұрын

I’m going to need an itemized report on my desk before noon tomorrow or its absence as resignation.

In Kantian philosophy, particularly in the realm of ethics, the idea of dehumanizing someone and treating them merely as a means to an end is often associated with the concept of instrumentalization or instrumental reasoning. This is closely related to Immanuel Kant's principle of treating humanity, whether in oneself or in others, always as an end in itself, and never merely as a means to some other end. When individuals are reduced to mere instruments or tools for the achievement of one's goals, their intrinsic worth as rational beings capable of moral agency is disregarded. This dehumanizing treatment undermines their dignity and autonomy, which are central to Kantian ethics. Instead of recognizing and respecting the inherent value and rationality of individuals, they are objectified and exploited solely for the benefit of others.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

And we're talking about rocket scientists here. I'm sure they are capable of taking care of themselves. They are surely sentient. Kant was a philosopher, we must remember it's speculative. Better to talk to people who work at spacex and see if they are happy, or content, if the interest is their welfare. You'd have data and wouldn't have to speculate. From my anecdotal perspective, spacex employees seem incredibly satisfied in their bleeding edge work and success. Also paid very well. Imagine working somewhere where you do things that have never been done. Wouldn't that be amazing?

@ACtuber123

15 күн бұрын

@@gramma677 you talk about data and then you say anecdotal perspective. Those two aint compatible.

Lucas's personal issues notwithstanding, Elon was asking the right questions.

Bottom line is, it's easy to say anything rude to others when you got billions dollar

@dthornto31

Ай бұрын

Bottom line is that he invests his billions into his passion. Which in his case is trying to save humanity. When people are passionate emotions can run high, because you care. I hope that one day you find whatever it is that drives you on that level. That you are willing to sacrifice great things for it. And at times you will yell

@gmmo

Ай бұрын

I might have retired after few millions not even billions 🤣 no passion just fun..

@MrRaulstrnad

Ай бұрын

it's easy to say anything rude to others WHEN YOU LIVE OFF GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES

@zinussan50

Ай бұрын

@@MrRaulstrnad who exactly?

@dthornto31

Ай бұрын

@MrRaulstrnad. The entire industry is based on government subsidies so your point is moot. If others could do it better they would. But they arent even close. Try again

can't decide if elon is the world's smartest pseudo-intellectual or the world's dumbest intellectual

@arex20

12 күн бұрын

Neither. More like a cult leader of the world's biggest cult.

I've had the chance to know managers from Tesla. Vision and capabilities aside, Elon is frequently cruel and capricious in how he treats people. He's a nightmare boss. People leave scarred.

@helmshardover

Ай бұрын

In this case though, the guy was the financial analyst for the Raptor, how would he not know raw steel price is about $700 a ton??? Or all the raw cost prices of materials for that matter?

@island97

Ай бұрын

Yet tesla and SpaceX employees have rated the companies as the best places to work. And elon has been ranked in the top 5 best CEOs by his employees.

@itemushmush

Ай бұрын

@@island97 Tesla?? The one where black employees have said that they were racially abused and said that managers call them "working on the plantation"? THAT tesla?

@AlainDessureault

Ай бұрын

@@island97 Seems nonsensical to rank a CEO highly when they're driven to attain a nonsensical goal. Rushing to get to Mars at this time, or in the foreseeable future, is unjustifiable rubbish

@island97

Ай бұрын

@@AlainDessureault are you dumb? You are aware SpaceX launch astronauts and supplies to the ISS ?? They launch satellites for both private and public sector. By your logic. 98% of CEO run nonsensical compaines therefore their performance and management means nothing ?

The cost of machining is the only thing that adds value to raw materials. It would be something like human labor * technique + raw materials * automation squared. Obviously something like AI could be used to up the weight of "technique", but that'll add a bit to labor cost because you need more specialized labor. This "Idiot Index" is basically the exact same process every corporation is using for cost savings, and something close to Capitalism's push to make everything, including labor itself some kind of market externality they can push the cost of off on someone else's shoulders, so they can steal that value as profit as well. Literally nothing new here to see, aside from tricking people to do rocket science for minimum wage.

@TheSachmo6

Ай бұрын

Seriously! The exclusion of the labor in the cost is some kind of fantasy

@GizmoMaltese

Ай бұрын

I wonder what the idiot index is on a CPU? The value of a CPU can't be judged by its raw materials. And what about steel? What's the cost of coal? How about you create your own steel plant? Expertise needed to combine the raw materials has to be considered. And can you obtain those raw materials at the same price as a company that buys large amounts of this raw materials at a discount? Is buying the equipment to process the raw materials cost effective when you're not in that business.

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

It looks that Elon learned that primitive capitalist lesson very well. Still his water tanks rockets will never take people to Mars in this shape. He needs more innovation than material so that ratio will exceed a lot more the idiot index .

@Sal3600

Ай бұрын

its called vertical integration@@GizmoMaltese

@GizmoMaltese

Ай бұрын

@@Sal3600 I know it's called vertical integration. I'm just pointing that just looking at raw materials is rather pointless in all but the most basic parts.

If you want to learn about rockets, join SpaceX internship program, not brilliant sponsorship. ~ SpaceX employee.

Super cool story. Now I'm thinking, how do you use the idiot index on software?

@LuisSierra42

Ай бұрын

By paying less to engineers

@AnyWayICan

Ай бұрын

Depends if you are talking about developing software or purchasing it.

@seancollins9745

Ай бұрын

how much does each feature cost, and how much value does it add, and what are mission critical portions.

@Chaos_rider_666

Ай бұрын

​@@LuisSierra42😂 true

@bhuvaneshs.k638

Ай бұрын

Using gpt models

Dude should have just scribbled his name and the date, and handed it over, and said "okay, here. Resigned" The level of 'fuck this shit' is off the charts here.

I think some context is missing here. I work in manufacturing as a machinist. It's been my experience that it is true, that engineers will occasionally over-engineer a part. Eg; opt to machine a part, that would be cheaper to fabricate. But fabrication comes with its own costs as well. Fabricated parts are usually much cheaper, but they also can require large costs in tooling to get to that point...and if you aren't running large volumes of parts, the cost can be counter-productive. You don't want to spend millions in fabrication tooling, when you're focused on low volume prototype parts. In that case, the high cost of machining, might still be the better way to go. Also, certain parts are high precision for a reason, and there is really no getting around it. When the video said that "Elon cares about humanity, but in a macro sense", I found that kind of troubling. It initially implies that he's potentially willing to cut corners and make sacrifices...maybe where human lives are concerned?

@rpscorp9457

12 күн бұрын

90,000$ for a bag of bushings..its that sort of thing he was talking about.

@nutbastard

10 күн бұрын

He's on record stating matter of factly that the Mars project WILL cause some deaths, that it is inevitable, and that anyone who can't swallow that fact need not apply. Sounds harsh but he's probably right and it is better to rip that bandaid off sooner rather than later. Frankly I find the lack of sugarcoating refreshing.

This "idiot index" is like evaluate the price of a rock by the price of constituent elements...

@bryck7853

Ай бұрын

the idiot index would be very low for people like Archimedes: he used a stick and drew figures in sand

@kodtech

Ай бұрын

@@bryck7853 Wrong, because the stick was moved by Archimedes, which was the most expensive man of its time 😁

@donaldhobson8873

26 күн бұрын

Which works fairly ok for high quality gold ores. But assigns the same price to coal and diamonds.

@kodtech

26 күн бұрын

@@donaldhobson8873 An ORE is the name given to a rock or group of rocks that contain something that makes economic sense... what are you talking about? You better find some Rhodium ore... 😀

@cannonfodder4812

21 күн бұрын

​@@kodtechhe said the index cost would be low for archamedes, not the people paying archamedes.

Humanity is not going to Mars if there is no humanity left in us.

@threethrushes

20 күн бұрын

Insightful, and gets to the root of the problem: human nature.

@jballaviator

19 күн бұрын

The entire point of starting a selective separate society free from the anarchy our home has become. If we all become dust tomorrow at least the best aspects will carry on.

@FromFame

17 күн бұрын

ripped right out of r/im14andthisisdepp Shut up, solve problems, or leave

@simp-slayer

17 күн бұрын

@@FromFame I don't need advice from reddit incels. Keep that 💩 to yourself.

@simp-slayer

17 күн бұрын

​@@FromFameI don't need advice from reddit inc€|s. Keep that 💩 to yourself.

Quade told him to "Get your ass to Mars!" when he was a boy.

In military SpecForces the Motto is NEVER QUIT-But- I added: “I CHEAT FAIR” ! ? and got a Hug from Commanding Officer ! ?

How can you all fall for it.?

@dthornto31

Ай бұрын

Fall for what?

@gettinglucky

Ай бұрын

I don't, I get my news from Thunderfoot

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

@@dthornto31 It's a play on free fall? Zero G? Or is idiot? Not sure.

Not wrong. These are high pressure situations. It is his managerial tactic and obviously it works very well for him. It is not easy to do great things. If you are looking for easy, there are plenty more mundane jobs out there

@Alistair

Ай бұрын

yeah this just comes across as a weird, sad attempt at an emotional hit piece on Elon

@island97

Ай бұрын

@@Alistair it is harsh, but some people thrive in this environment. Its defo not for everyone. There was a recent story of a Tesla AI engineer leaving because he was burnt out, then returned less then 2yrs later because he was bored at his other job .lol

@ACtuber123

15 күн бұрын

if you are looking to work for some overhyped, a-hole's dream while not earning millions. There's Space X jobs out there.

@j.ceasar

14 күн бұрын

@@Alistair Truth hurts, huh?

@marcuspvxea

13 күн бұрын

Specially when the guy is getting paid 2-3 times more than the average person in the same job title. All i hear is someone who lied on his resume and used excuses to not fullfill his basic duties. Nearly every average paid person would be able to answer the questions ontopp of their heads. It's their sole responsibility to know. Pathetic that people try to excuse it. I'd get it if he was getting paid below average. I know several people at our company who's job is anything but in the economical department, but they well know whats bad money for the company in terms of the products sold/produced.

I was impressed by Musk's comment about "people having a strong feedback loop". If you have never taken control theory in college, you may not grasp the power of feedback loops to control the world. Almost all control equipment in the whole world uses some form of closed loop feedback. In that class, and a few years later in my first job, I realized that feedback was the key to people being able to improve things. No one can get things right the first time, except by accident, and no one executes perfectly every day. The key to making improvements is repeated refinement of process to achieve a particular goal based on new information becoming available. Interesting, I could not convince my managers of this fact. Managers typically run in an open-loop. That is, they issue orders and expect other people to make them happen. Having said all this, it can be exhausting to be part of that feedback loop. The agile s/w methodology basically is a codification of a closed feedback loop. A fellow programmer some years ago said that she preferred the waterfall methodology because it was a lot more peaceful. Closed loop can make you feel like you are on a mission from God, or "Gad", as John Belushi would have said.

"your resignation will be accepted" that's a new level of basedness

I'd be depressed too if I knew I wasn't going to build a cabin on Mars.

Whenever I encountered processes or procedures that were broken, I didn't listen to those who said, "Oh, that's always been broken," "we've been trying to fix that for years," or "there's no way you can fix that - not enough time!" I simply fixed it. Sometimes it took me weeks. On occasion, it would take me months. "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda

Things cost money for three reasons: labor, rent, and lack of competition. Elon, someone has to make the damn thing, and you have to pay them to do it.

My brother had died when I was on the job, I got ZERO sympathy or understanding in my hard times by coworkers or management

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

I feel you brother. You're not human being with emotions; personal life; persona, after all. You're just a tool. Or worse - a cog in the machine. And how they feel is not important, right? And definitely how people feel and their psychological state is not going to affect their motivation and performance, doesn't it?

People giving businesses far too much credit. Most people accept parts for what they are. Aka Idiots

Please make one about Boltzmann

@sandyago4735

Ай бұрын

Yes for sure!

@summerbreeze5115

Ай бұрын

Who is that?

@abrarjahin8848

Ай бұрын

@@summerbreeze5115 Boltzmann was a physicist who has major contributions in statistical mechanics and has also given the statistical description of 2nd law of thermodynamics.. i couldnt get to much about him...

@summerbreeze5115

Ай бұрын

@@abrarjahin8848 He committed suicide Must have been a weak man :P I had used in equation when i was in high school in the chapter "gaseous State" something that sort

@abrarjahin8848

Ай бұрын

@@summerbreeze5115 to be honest we can determine him weak as we dont clearly know what happened to his mental condition .. i heard many people didnt believe him started going against him.. And that is what i clearly want to know what made him suicide even though it was a bad idea...

I have a hard time feeling bad for employees of Space X. You know the role, you know the mission, you're getting paid, cry about it.

Yes many top engineers leave Spacex.

@helmshardover

Ай бұрын

The opposite is true. Engineers leave but the top ones stay, it's why SpaceX is at the top of the game.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@@helmshardover You'd be surprised what the industry actually thinks about SpaceX lmao, the public perception is one giant delusion

@helmshardover

Ай бұрын

​@@FrankyPiRubbish

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@@helmshardover Sure thing, like you would know lol

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

@@helmshardover "Denial is the most predictable of all human responses." The architect - Matrix.

really gives me Homer working for Mr. Scorpio vibes

@LuisSierra42

Ай бұрын

Real bro, I used to admire Elon a few years back but I've slowly seen him turn into a villain and dangerously, one of the most powerful individuals on the planet

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

@@LuisSierra42 this means that your idiot index decreased. I congratulate you, brother.

It's literally impossible to get anything done - and I mean anything - without stepping on someone's toes. It's just life.

The idiot index does not mean nothing. There are raw materials that do not cost that much, but working, shaping, welding they are a nightmare. For the same reason if you go to a three star Michelin restaurant you are not paying just the raw materials.

The most important question is why Musk is heading for a lifeless and unhabitable planet rock, and not using his "genius" and resources to to do something to a planet that actually has been sustaining life for hundreds of millions of years.

This wasn't actually about the "idiot index". Would have been better if it had been.

looks like Elon wants to run a marathon distance with 100m dash pace. Non-sustainable, it's sad, as he will have more delays as many people will leave and they will spent more time on hiring and onboarding, than actual work

My favorite types of videos on this channel

There was s some truth to this. When I was in engineering school, I had a teacher that had worked with a NASA contractor. He said he would routinely see someone take a regular hareware screw off the shelf that cost about 5 cents at the time, put in in a bag and write "Space Screw, $1.25.". There has traditionally been a lot of graft in the industry. But "how much is your customer willing to pay for an item" is also how we determine what the price point of an item will be. The highter the price point over cost of material, labor, maintenance and plant build, the more profit is made, and the more investors will invest in the product. So, now the manufacturer has investors, whom by law have to see a profit on their investment. But they have a buyer who wants to lower the price point signifagantly. Easy, just lower your profit margin, right? The answer to this question will be left to those who work in actual corporate America... Or any other country.

I have seen this many times... when people care about humanity and great causes they often don't care about their neighbour difficulties and the opposite is also very true... people shouting against great human causes saying it's just bullshit, but cannot pass in front of a bag people without giving them money.

@emmanuel8310

Ай бұрын

Well, I'll rather do both. However, saying you care about humanity but not about your neighbor seems very hideous to me. It's like a movie villain. So, honestly, I basically reject that model.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

Elon caring about humanity??? If we could get to Mars and terraform it we could certainly solve all the same problems here on earth, faster and cheaper. If he really cared for humanity he would concentrate on solving problems like pollution, poverty, wars etc here. But he only cares about his own passions.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

@@Axel_Andersen All those problems are solved. Governments just don't enact the necessary policies. He's a private citizen, so he wants to go to mars. That's great. But solving long solved problems is a ridiculous pursuit.

@Axel_Andersen

18 күн бұрын

@@gramma677 I was commenting the comment that Musks cares about humanity. And that is laughable. If he wants t go to Mars, fine, that is his funeral. But if he really cared about humanity he tried to solve problems on earth and not try to start over in an environment which is full of nothing but unsolved technical and economical problems.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

@@Axel_Andersen I don't think it's about humanity, maybe it is in his mind. It's fine to go to another planet. All the problems on earth are solved. It's just leaders are unable to enact the necessary policies. Poverty is solved, hunger solved. Now we still have these problems because leaders don't do the things that are already demonstrated to fix them as they have in many many many countries. I agree with you though, really. Nothing could happen to earth that would make it as unfriendly to life as mars is. It should just be fine to want to go to mars, for its own sake. But you are right on many points. I wonder if Elon really believes the altruistic message, or if he just wants to go to mars. Which is fine.

"Idiot index" is used to judge one product floating over value or not, it's super meaningful not only considering on manufacture but also throughout human being life as well.

@user-ps1ft1hy4j

Ай бұрын

I can illustrate that. In terms of the product of my wages vs. what they were worth to me, particularly when money gets weighed against the worth of my time to live a normal life and health in all its aspects. I was asked to work split shifts, 6 am to 2 pm and 6 pm to 10 pm. Problem is I'm biologically a night owl. On my normal 12-hour days I wake up at 4:20 am and by the time I get home at 6:30 pm, I eat and then just flop to sleep. That's the only way I can make up for my exhaustion at not working according to my personal circadian rhythm. But when I did split shifts, I got home at 10:30 pm and because of my night owl nature, couldn't fall asleep till about 2 a.m. So I wound up working on a bit over 2 hours sleep a day for multiple days. And then stepping into 12-hour shifts on top of that. Boy was I out of it. For days afterward too, my sleep schedule was crazy and I did not feel clear at all. For me, the product of my labor, that is, cash and higher regard at the company, was not worth the greatly increased difficulty at work and being completely drained afterward even on my days off. I thought splitting my shifts and working extra was worth it. At the cost of my health and clarity and ability to have any pleasure if only to curry favor and/or avoid office politics pain. It wasn't. The money would have had to be far better to not let me fall into an idiot metric with regard to the value of my labor and life. SO MUCH extra effort and negative health effects for relatively little money.

@DragonLong-vs3zf

Ай бұрын

@@user-ps1ft1hy4j Thanks for illustrating many real details in your labor life to us.

@MediaFilter

Ай бұрын

@@user-ps1ft1hy4j is that boring person who is constantly waiting for an opportunity to turn the conversation to "ME ME ME". Even when that means comparing their pathetic life to an historic spacecraft launch.

@jonashellsborn7648

Ай бұрын

@@MediaFilter the user you address in your pathetic rant only added a "lived experience" record in the "Work vs Life" discussion that goes on above. It will be interesting to see the outcome of 4d workweek experiments that have started recently in several places. Allegedly longer days, so 10h I suppose. Others (mostly women) want 6.5h days. It seems like (especially younger) males are easier to to manipulate to sacrifice themselves to a "greater" cause.

@user-ps1ft1hy4j

Ай бұрын

@@jonashellsborn7648 Thank you. I was only trying to helpfully validate the poster's thesis before being blindsided by a troll ambush. Even if I'm not interesting, and I have no desire to win over the whole world, I thought it was useful to broaden and validate the discussion regardless. Seems positive to me.

No, guys, the idiot index makes perfect sense. Your goal is to reduce the manufacturing cost. Anything that is not materials is part of the manufacturing process. It quickly sorts items by how much they cost to manufacture, it directly separates out the processing cost. Something with a low idiot index is something that costs nothing to process from raw materials into an item, and probably not worth caring about. Something with a high ratio is something complicated and difficult to make, and something worth scrutinizing more deeply. Even costs that can't be reduced, like say, we manufacture silicon into microchips and you can't get the cost down - identifying that the microchip is the expensive part isn't just about finding a cheaper way to make the chip, it prompts you to go, "well, can we make it work without using that microchip at all?" Maybe you can optimize your code and use a slower, cheaper chip. Maybe you can do the task on another chip you already have doing something else. Maybe you can rearrange your process and find a way to meet your goal completely throwing out the task that chip was doing. Maybe you could use a cheaper, off the shelf part to do the task instead of something custom. Or maybe the part is really expensive because it's really big and hard to transport. Then you start to consider things like, "well, instead of one big thing, can we make multiple small things that do the job?" or "Can we make it in parts and assemble it on site?" or "Can we just transport the raw materials and then make it all directly on site?" or "can we move the manufacturing or the destination to a location by the sea, so we can put it on a giant boat and move it that way instead of on a truck?" This is really in line with Elon's big engineering ethos: "Make your requirements less dumb". Rather than coming up with a better solution to your problem, it's almost always orders of magnitude more effective to move the goal posts and come up with an easier problem in the first place. Don't solve hard problems, spend that effort looking for easy problems that get you what you want. It's all a "the best part is no part" thing. I recall he gave a specific example - there was a layer of insulating fiberglass on Teslas. When it was identified as a bottleneck in manufacturing, they started to ask, "well what is this for?". After asking the battery team, they said it was for sound proofing. When they went to ask the sound team, they said it was for the batteries, it was fire safety. After hearing that, both teams went, "no it's not?" and then they realized. The battery guys didn't need it, the sound guys didn't need it, "Why on earth do we even have this then?" and threw it out, making an entire assembly line and logistics supply chain for acquiring it and getting the cars to the assembly line to have it installed obsolete. Of course, naturally, you're going to have more metrics than JUST the idiot index.

@ncdave4life

9 күн бұрын

Exactly right!

How nice of Elon to accept resignation immediately! And I don't feel bad for the guy.. Like they always taught us at school "What happens at home, You leave at home when you come to school".. So I guess it's the same way with work

I read the Isaacson biography of Elon Musk - and concluded that (even if I was highly qualified) I would never work for him (Musk) at SpaceX, Tesla, X, or any other company he runs; he's a relentless slave driver. On the other hand, to be a shareholder in a Musk-run company is a likely path toward substantial investment returns and financial bliss. To summarize: - being a Musk employee == bad - being a Musk company shareholder == good

@alexi9108

Ай бұрын

Tesla is currently doing not so good in terms of share price

@TyroneSayWTF

Ай бұрын

@@alexi9108 Sooner or later reality catches up with hype and Tesla is no exception. Electric cars are NOT the be-all-end-all solution to mankind's transportation needs - and investors finally figured that out (i.e. Tesla stock was WAY overvalued). Nonetheless, there was a time when Tesla WAS one of the most valuable companies in the world - let alone, THE most valuable (based on market cap) automobile company in the world.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@@TyroneSayWTF Tesla bubble was created mostly out of fraudulent claims and promises for FSD and all the imaginary benefits of owning a Tesla, even Musk admitted it was overvalued so it's funny how long it took lol

Musk seems very committed to always top my idiot index.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

It's ironic you think the idiot index is a ranking system.

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

@@gramma677 still, index gives ranking. Good job not seeing that.

I'm a software engineer and the cost of raw materials... well... embrace the idiocy I guess.

AS USUAL musk TAKES SOMEONE'S IDEA AND MAKES IT HIS OWN... I'M SURE HENRY FORD USED THE SAME RATIO BUILDING THE MODEL T...

@CalciumBrony-hv8de

Ай бұрын

The model tS never exploded violently in space

@coffeegator6033

Ай бұрын

All CAPS huh like a grown up?

@user-ko1yn8ci6c

Ай бұрын

I wanted to say how silly you sound, but realized it would be a waste of time.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

It's just an operating principle. I don't think it's original and he doesn't either. But it's effective. Henry Ford certainly didn't use the same ratio, as we have detailed history about that time, but he had similar principles, even if it wasn't a defined ratio. What do you want from people? Going to space isn't enough, like what do you want?

Elon scores high on his own index

@Thenakedfinisher

Ай бұрын

I bet you have the highest score

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

The idiot index is a ratio not a ranking. FOR GODS SAKE WATCH THE FIRST MINUTE OF THE VIDEO. Pleeeease, we can't be this idiotic, we can't

Makes sense. You dont wanna use super-expensive tooling and shit for rocket components. The whole goal is cheap space travel. The entire point is to keep the prices down.

Im reminded of you need to break eggs to make an omelette.

The us government needs to use the idiot index with pharmaceutical, medical treatments, military purchases and all contracts with companies, even with Space X and Tesla. Think of how much $$$ taxpayers would save.

@ibtehaj-khan

Ай бұрын

Nevertheless, government will waste the saved money on irrelevant international problems.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

@@ibtehaj-khan How are international problems irrelevant? 9/11 was very much international problem and what about immigrants flocking America, or oil imports and exports ... contrary to what some people think Texas is not the whole world and the global problems have consequences in Iowa too.

@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp

Ай бұрын

Don't get confused between the "idiot index" and "being an idiot". One is an analytical took - the other is a painful reality and fact when it comes to DC.

@niconico3907

Ай бұрын

​@@Axel_Andersenmaybe if you leave other countries alone, they won't try to destroy you anyway they can. If you start wars in other countries, they'll bring back the wars to you.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

@@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Gov procurement looks at bigger number and thinks it's the best. That's why Gerber's military multitool is 8x the cost of the same civilian version. Politicians are idiots and the simplicity flows into all aspects they govern. We are idiots for electing them. It's idiots all the way down.

Musk is pretty high up on the index,emotionally

@gtdcoder

Ай бұрын

Mentally, too.

@geraldg350

Ай бұрын

And yet the alleged emotionally superior beings such as yourself are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. It's almost as if the universe doesn't care about that.

@Runnmill

Ай бұрын

Yup

@Runnmill

Ай бұрын

Yuuup

@quidproquo82

Ай бұрын

​@@geraldg350and what do you do what's so ground breaking lol

It seems that the Optimus Robot’s job is to lower the Idiot index. There is one aspect of the idiot index that may go unnoticed. What if you design a rocket with 33 engines and you lower the idiot index by half but ignore the fact that your design Multiplies the idiot index 33x.

A place I worked, a steel agitator for a liquid waste tank.... 2' across, three simple fan blades, no moving parts...probably the same difficulty to create as a 20lb weight plate. Several thousand dollars. Yeah, it's good steel, but omg the price for a single piece of steel that was maybe 20lb.

Elon says he loves humanity, but humanity is only an abstraction. He acts as if the only human he values is himself.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

Cannot wait for him personally to board the rocket to Mars. That cannot happe too soon, sadly it will never happen.

@user-ko1yn8ci6c

Ай бұрын

Wow, what has he done to ya'll?

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

@@user-ko1yn8ci6c He basically lies all the time damaging society with those lies and gets away with it. Good riddance.

While I admire Elon, I probably would never consider working for him if I ever got a chance.

@shanep.9442

Ай бұрын

I don't think he'd worry about that. He only wants seriously motivated prospects, of which there are many.

@K1RTB

Ай бұрын

@@shanep.9442 Boot licking is skill number 1 that's needed when working for elon.

@krox477

Ай бұрын

Yes he's not your regular boss

elon really pulled "physics doesn't care about your feeling" LOL

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

it's bold to think that he is an embodiment of physics lmao. But jokes aside - it was just his excuse to handwave away criticism sent his way.

Activity is NOT Productivity

What happened to the 90 seconds battery swap Elon demonstrated on stage 10 years ago? It wasn't fake because Elon is a genius.

@helmshardover

Ай бұрын

He's not slow to change direction when he realizes he's wrong. Many examples.

@donaldhobson8873

26 күн бұрын

@@helmshardover Not slow to change direction when enough other people realize he is wrong.

Great material! Impressive management methods from inside and outside a man`s perspective; cause and effect of collaboration in time due to planned outcome 100% and human disadvantages; math and language modelling methodology... Wow! Thank you!

@calicoesblue4703

Ай бұрын

Lmao🫵🤣🤣🤣 Elon is a Con man. And has been sued many times in court where he continues to lose because of his lies & false promises.🤷

This video made me think less of Elon. Before I thought he might be some kind of visionary. But now he sounds like every "leader" boss I've ever had.

So simple, yet useful.

I sounds like any other fast food manager I ever had

@raggedclawstarcraft6562

11 күн бұрын

sept my fast food managers were nice, polite, and never cruel.

That is why SpaceX has starship and BlueOrigin still trying to escape karman line.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

Blue Origin started development of their orbital rocket around the same time SpaceX did with Starship, and it has far more realistic chance of becoming operational first, maiden flight is carrying a mission to Mars.

@jamescarter8311

Ай бұрын

The two are really not comparable. BO has never even achieved orbit.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@jamescarter8311 They are perfectly comparable, just not in class, New Glenn is heavy class. Both are orbital vehicles and aiming to be reusable at least to some extent. Blue Origin is yet to fly it because it's developed with a standard method meaning it has to work straight out the gate just like SLS or vast majority of all other rockets. This is why its first flight is already operational, there is no prototype flight testing, all the work, simulations and testing was done on the ground. Starship uses an extreme case of an old-fashioned method that the industry abandoned for very good reasons back in 70s or 80s.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@nth7273 Founding dates mean nothing by themselves, "bro", only project timelines do. Apparently, this is too hard for cultists to get through their thick skull. SpaceX immediately went on to develop an orbital class rocket, while Blue Origin operated more like a think-thank than anything in their early years, then they went to develop their suborbital New Shepard with tourism in mind, it was much later that the work on New Glenn started, like I said pretty much around the same time when SpaceX started development work on Starship with its early concepts. The "didn't reach orbit" crowd is too dumb to realize that the two companies have a large gap in when each started development work on an orbital class rocket.

@FrankyPi

Ай бұрын

@nth7273 Lol, 70% of SpaceX launches are Starlink. Amazon Kuiper only has a few thousand satellites in plan, almost half of what SpaceX currently has (not counting any that burned up), and a quarter of their short term plan. That means they will complete their constellation with at least 44 New Glenn launches or 58 at most, depending on satellite mass. Since they will be in higher orbit there will be no need to replace any for a long period of time. They will be supporting their Blue Moon HLS with New Glenn and there will be a lot of customer missions, already have one of those for its maiden flight as I mentioned. Unlike SpaceX, Blue Origin won't be so dependent on their megaconstellation. New Glenn is also more comparable to Falcon Heavy than 9, since it's in the heavy class, with 45 tons to LEO capacity that's significantly more capable than F9, and SpaceX only had 9 launches of FH since 2018. That's barely over 1 launch per year on average.

Why isn't he 3D printing his rockets if he scrutinized every aspect of production?

Elon Musk save Brazil

Too many people think that the Raptor engine is a done deal when the reality is that the jury is still out as to whether the Raptor engine design is up to the task. The Raptor 2 is an improvement on Raptor 1 with increases in performance and thrust and a reduction in the the amount of parts which reduces the amount of time to manufacture and test. But that is for nought if the engines can't be reliably re-lit and are insufficient in lifting the required payload. Maybe a betting man might be looking for Raptor 5 before all the problems are resolved.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

So true. Also if Elon asks about the price of steel for the engine he must be thinking that he can push the price of the engine towards the price of steel, right? So why burn fuel each way trying to bring back that engine (or 36 of them!) to be refurbished, why not just make disposable engines like the rest of the industry...

@niconico3907

Ай бұрын

​@@Axel_Andersenbecause rocket engines cost a lot of money. It is stupid to throw away millions dollars parts after 10 minutes of use. Its like throwing away your car when the tank is empty, instead of keeping a little bit of fuel to go to the gas station.

@Axel_Andersen

Ай бұрын

@@niconico3907 You missed the point. IF Elon thinks that the price of the raw material (a few thousands) is significant compared to the complete engine price (millions according to you) then he must be thinking that he can push the price of the engine down close to the raw material prices. So IF he can do that or believes he can do that, THEN it would make sense for him to use disposable rockets because re-usable rockets are heavier and more expensive than re-usable and will still require refurbishment between flights (unless you buy his lies about one hour turn around).

@stevenwoerpel1884

29 күн бұрын

@@Axel_Andersen Regardless of what you say, SpaceX currently offers the cheapest rate for getting material to orbit. So the engines are cheap, and they can be reset and reused in a more cost effective way than just making disposable rockets. Proof is in the numbers

@Axel_Andersen

29 күн бұрын

@@stevenwoerpel1884 So you want to change the subject and not talk about idiotic idiot index and making pumps from steel? Talking about whataboutism.... Ok. Yes, I agree that SpaceX Falcon 9 seems to offer good value for money. I'm still a bit skeptical because it is not a public company so we do not know the real number ie are the books on red or black. However, trying to keep in the subject ie Elon's competence, how much of this apparent success is due to or despite of Mush?

It requires an attitude and fortitude of a Greek god to become the richest man in the world ✊✊

I know of no successful business visionary in history that did not function on the same work ethic and principles as Musk

The third flight did not reach orbit. Reaching orbit needs substantially more speed.

Apologies for bragging - 12 yrs ago, i was dragging my 17 yr old son to the junkyards rebuilding a wrecked beater 94 Integra as his 1st car. He learned a lot from that wreck with sweat and tears. After leading his college Formula SAE team to reach 1st in the USA & 2nd in the world , I’m super proud of him working for a visionary figure like Elon whose goals are to benefit humanity❤.

@aasishwarsaravana5748

Ай бұрын

Congratulations! I am sure working there, he will gain invaluable experience, which will be very useful in his future endeavours like starting new companies, and if he is working in SpaceX, he could even be a visionary, solving critical problems in Spaceflight, just like the golden age of the space race where engineers found impressive solutions!

But does he know his own Infantile Index? People who have worked with, sorry FOR him, say it's very high.

@bastian6173

Ай бұрын

Can't really blame him though... The environment that he was born into, with his genetical makeup ... he's an aspie and if that's how he copes with his brain operating at a million miles an hour, I'm ok with it. I just don't want to ever work wit... uhm, for him. I had a boss who was like that, aspie too. It's horrible. But then again, what's the alternative? Mindfulness? Drugs? Nobody is perfect and we're all just trying the best we can. Out of the 8 billion on this planet, he's definitely not the worst.

@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp

Ай бұрын

And who is landing one success after the other? Elon of "the other people" those who always have a better skill than their bosses - wherever they go.

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

Wish more infants were working on rockets then. Also the idiot index is a measure of efficiency. It's like people hear the word idiot and then replace it with infantile, but don't even create a ratio. Like it's not even funny, cause it's based on massive ignorance of the premise. Like let's say the infantile index is public outbursts vs the value of the company as a ratio or something. I mean just get the premise. SMH

@Wild8Cat

18 күн бұрын

@@gramma677 Ok, if you don't like that term, what do you think his Algorithm Parrot Index is?

@gramma677

18 күн бұрын

@@Wild8Cat I'm fine with the term, I just have a problem with people not understanding the term. It should be called the idiot ratio perhaps and that would save a lot of head scratching. Bkaa. idiot ratio. Polly want's an idiot ratio. bkaa

Absolute insanity.

that rocket around 27 seconds seriously staged at ground level. Like... There's a whole stage just to get it above ground.

lemme guess, no overtime was paid

@helmshardover

Ай бұрын

But the shares given to them multiplied 100+

@Thenakedfinisher

Ай бұрын

Let me guess, you scored high on the index. Management usually never get overtime, they sign a wage contract. Performance is rewarded with bonuses

@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp

Ай бұрын

If "overtime" is what drives you = forget about a career. The moment you get promoted - your overtime is gone.

@direktive4

Ай бұрын

@@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp because you get a payraise and promised a bone-us duh. I’ll take Things only bosses airquote for 400.

@direktive4

Ай бұрын

@@Thenakedfinisher oh are projects wholly done by management personnel? Who are they managing genius?

The notion of establishing a community on a barren planet that has no oxygen, no water, and no livable atmosphere is idiotic. But if you will be able to subscribe to a daily pay per view tv stream to watch the volunteers who will be stuffed into the rocket for two years then I will pay to see them. Because the notion that a small group of strangers forced to live together with no means of escape will be worth the money. Oh, and the trip back is also two years. I’m going to stock up on popcorn to watch this idiotic venture.

@voxoptimatium9847

Ай бұрын

Point taken, but I won't watch. It'll be far too sad.

You know that cliché about your people being your most important resource? Elno Muskovite is starting to learn this. He's been very lucky and had excellent timing to get as far as he has. Lately, not so much, and when you're luck runs out, as it always does, you need your people to have your back. Physics may not have feelings, but people sure as hell do.

In rocket science and implementation, there is NO room for error ! If Boeing really believed that adage, aircraft parts would not fall off !!

Can you explain this to Apple CEO?

@GizmoMaltese

Ай бұрын

Apple created their own CPUs.

@user-dm2ig3mf3w

21 күн бұрын

You mean Tim Apple? ;)

I would love to work with Elon. I want to be in control room when the first starship land on the mars. Only the joy and excitement of being in the room will be enough for me.

@chewielewis4002

Ай бұрын

Wait until you are broken, burnt out, and an alcoholic from working 100 hour weeks

@Bllll63

Ай бұрын

One next idiot ! Welcome to the club🎉

I don't regret passing on the opportunity to work in Sparks Nevada, because my talents would not have been applied there. The idiot index was coined by a dispassionate overzealous idiot. @DNomer said it very well: His 'idiot index' is itself not very bright. For example, with microchips, the cheapest chips are quite cheap, and the most expensive ones are quite pricey, yet the cost of 'raw materials' is trivial in each case. You need to employ a much more comprehensive paradigm to judge what is a reasonable cost for 'item A'.

I think the standard unit of measure for stupid should be the "Elon"

Craftsmanship demands that we make ourselves "the tool" of our ambitions. My grandfather, Marvin R. Davis built the SR-71. Not figuratively, he literally built that impossible aircraft on an impossible schedule, out of an impossible material, as well as may others. With the bit of time-off this job allowed, he taught his kids to build airplanes by fabricating a light single in the backyard, inventing the patented Stol leading edge along the way. If you wanted to know his FEELINGS about building an aircraft, you'd have to WAIT until he was done. Get me?