Discord: discord.gg/gUFaJxzrEp I recommend checking this video on Dudley: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHug3Keddr3YdNo.htmlsi=grYeuQPCp-5GIv0c (List of adaptations to watch of Dudley the Vagrant Engine) Carson’s Workshop; kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6yBkpurd8ufgps.htmlsi=VAnWWjnwB_PIA6Es kzread.info/dash/bejne/fGV6ybOFicanoJc.htmlsi=nIMiF8gJk4oU5zh5 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKWC28mppZjWaLw.htmlsi=5BLlWyR54_Q0Vami kzread.info/dash/bejne/faCelMikfK3HZ8o.htmlsi=TfEyns75N-6lOUiE NWR duck; kzread.info/dash/bejne/dY2o18uhqMbFeqw.htmlsi=-zqiq3RhEuD8S-C_ MasterOfTrainz; kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXmZw9WTpLa9mps.htmlsi=qyFHmg2yPYKq_z2I

Hit the nail on the head there. If I ever did anything with Dudley outside of his stories, I'd respect what he was designed to be and keep him an irredeemable monster.

It's just as the original story said. Dudley could have improved his behavior and become part of the NWR. But he chose his path, and sealed his own fate.

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

A sad yet very cold truth

@lachlantheGWRengine

13 күн бұрын

Well, the American 8F's take has him improve his behaviour so...

Dudley's just unredeemable. In my RWS AU which I've brought up once with Alfred, Dudley has always been horrid and even his only surviving sibling No. 63952 "Capulet" (Yes, there is an O2 preserved in this AU, but he lives on a heritage line in Cheshire) never saw him a kind and responsible member of the class. While I gave Alfred his redemption because his actions as "98462" was by manipulation, Dudley was just a rotten egg from day one.

I remember not even wanting to watch the "Alternate ending" simply because the idea of Dudley is that you're not meant to like him after the story, you're supposed to know the type of character Dudley is, especially since BuriedTrick has said it's someone based of an abusive friend "There are people who do wrong and will never atone for it - that is Dudley."; This is something that I'm doing with a character in my own form of train-with-face series, as I knew someone who was a bad person (narcissistic, manipulative, verbally abusive towards his own friends), but I digress. Making Dudley likeable to the audience is not something that can easily be done because of the type of character Dudley is, through and through, and I feel like Buried Truck could easily give the audience more examples through more stories, having it follow Dudley rather than a character affected by Dudley, show Dudley lying, manipulating, abusing, doing whatever he can for his own survival.

Dudley is better without a redemption arc

@joshbreck3489

4 ай бұрын

I agree

@Silverlink28

4 ай бұрын

You’re just reinstating what he already said

@Winfordbradford

9 күн бұрын

Agree

Wait people thing Dudley can be redeemed? Literally at the end of lifting the curitan donald says that its too late for him

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

Perhaps sometime after in a au after this he changed his ways

@megariderfire1994

4 ай бұрын

That's true. Not mention with the entire journey of Dudley's story...giving him a "redemption" at the end wouldn't make sense with all the shit he had done and the lack of remorse he had shown, that would be well...forced. Yeah, you can understand his reasons but that doesn't justify his actions and you're supposed to hate him for all the horrid things he did. He'll never let go of his toxic diesel prejudice, even towards good diesels like Bear, and reminder that Dudley in "Sparks Fly For Bear" intentionally pretended to be sorry to Bear just so he take advantage of his kindness and have him take over his goods train and deliberately lied to him about the faulty tanker and LIED AGAIN to the fat controller just to save his own skin (or metal plating...whatever) and get Bear in trouble. Not to mention... Buried Truck confirmed in a Twitter post that Dudley isn't meant to be an engine you shouldn't feel sorry for as his character was also inspired by real life abusive and manipulative person from his past. So not giving him a redemption...would also be respectful to the creator of the source material that is the RWS fan story that is "Dudley the Vagrant Engine". Also, I said this before and I'll say it again... Dudley IMO feels like the most twisted of all the Gresley designed characters in the Thomas franchise, fan-content included (obviously), and he's far more arrogant than the likes of Gordon and Spencer would ever be and he's far more selfish than Henry (in terms of his actual character, I mean) was.

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@megariderfire1994 Honestly i ever put in my universe a reference of the buriedtruck inccedent of the bully from his past

I've always wondered if Dudley was always manipulative or did he just become that way when diesels came along.

@lachlantheGWRengine

13 күн бұрын

Maybe the latter.

The funny part about all of this, is that the same person who made the video about Dudley, also made an idea for Dudley to be in Stories Of Sodor. And that idea was marginally FAR WORSE than what the American 8F did.

@MilesL.auto-train4013

13 күн бұрын

You need to remember this was before I made my review on Season 5; before I realized the flaws. I even said as much at the end of Part 2 of my review.

@lachlantheGWRengine

13 күн бұрын

My idea of Dudley being in Tobias was so bad I decided to drop it. Then again, it could work with Richard.

Some people just half to learn that not all stories can’t have all happy endings.

I kinda find Dudley to be a bit similar to Lotso Huggin Bear from “Toy Story 3” Where both characters lie for one thing.

I didn't know Dudley was based on a person in buried trucks personal life. Dudley is definitely irredeemable.

Dudley is Sus (Susley), he even said Among Us in Lifting the Curtain

@DarkBlueEngineProductions2024

Ай бұрын

we have an imposter among us

@Steamenginefan

Ай бұрын

Not funny. Didn’t laugh😐

In my canon: after Dudley was sent away, he went rouge and became a diesel serial killer of sorts, and would occasionally go to sodor, until ‘arry and bert found and killed him

@LePenguin

4 ай бұрын

Considering Dudley was the scrapped engine from Demons, that sounds pretty logical to me

2:28 look Gary there I am look! In all seriousness though I do understand what the creator of the alternate ending was going for but it just doesn't work. Maybe in an alternate universe but in this universe Dudley was made out to be a despicable foul creature of sorts, and a force to be reckoned with so to speak. Even though it is sad when bad guys don't change their ways there are generally those people who will never change. And especially with all the context out there it's pretty clear what he was made out to be. I've been wanting to talk about Dudley for a while now in this video explaining what he's supposed to be is pretty good for those who don't really understand him. Keep up the good work man.

I’m planning on making an allegory with Dudley in the future so I can see how he doesn’t deserve any redemption arc. Thank you for clearing it up and have a nice day 👍

dudley reminds me of diesel. think about both are irredeemable engines who lied manipulated and caused harm to others and they hate the opposite engine type to the point of wanting them gone.

@sabertooth3studioshq838

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but diesel got a chance to come back to the island.

@whytheheckarewedoinginhere1886

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, the only difference is the Diesel come back in the TV series, where he does learned from some of his mistakes over the years, he was more a mid bully in the TV series while RWS series he was only appear once when Sir Topham Hatts learns about Diesel mischievous ways, I guess everyone likes Diesel in the TV series so he come back to be more mischief Diesel than devilish Diesel, if you think about it.

Dudley reminds me of a casino player, in the sense that first mistake was to play the game, and once he bids every thing he, has nothing, by playing dirty and trying to cheat the system he got in a worser position than before....after all who wouldn't be manipulative and unforgivable at a casino..?

Ya know. The cover makes me want a creepypasta about what happened after Dudley got booted from sodor.

As someone who has written narcissistic characters in my own sentient talking vehicle series. I completely understand where the Buried Truck was coming from with this argument. I've been around narcissistic people, including family, and I can 100% see why Dudley was designed the way he was. A narcissistic prick of a locomotive that doesn't ever deserve redemption. In my own experience in writing stories about sentient talking vehicles, I for one find characters like Dudley to be A LOT OF FUN TO WRITE in their original irredeemable form. Especially when you get to write moments where the protagonists with main-character syndrome attempt to make the antagonist see sense then BOOM antagonist goes 10 times more villain-like than before, and in the end gets their comeuppance. Being forced to redeem such characters, or seeing someone who probably doesn't see the full picture write a redemption story for them takes that fun away somewhat, and kind of feels a little bit cliche in the case of TTTE. I get where the American 8F was coming from - to an extent with the concept of "What if Dudley could be redeemed?" However, I for one wouldn't chop a story in half and insert my ending in there. Now to be fair, the writing wasn't too bad, and the transition, filming and overall quality of the video are good. But and this is a huge BUT using the last story for a redemption arc wasn't the right choice. What I would've done, if I absolutely had to, is leave the original arc alone and write a separate story in which Dudley returns and actively tries to redeem himself if say, a character such as Bear rescued Dudley from scrap. But even that is a stretch, and something significant would have to happen in order for a character like Dudley to change his ways. Something I wish a lot more people would understand, from a writing perspective is that if a writer of a story like BuriedTruck wanted fans to go and write a redemption arc for a character cast as a villain, they'd make sure to put a small but significant detail in the story to "Leave the door open" for future possibilities. In this case, I think it's safe to assume if BuriedTruck intended fans to bring Dudley back, he intended him to return not as a redeemable character but as a Villain. This is the same as what Wilbert Awdry intended with Diesel, to send him away un-redeemed never to be seen again.

I do understand what Dudley is supposed to be, and I've watched the adaptations of his story, including the one made by The American 8F. But even with this, I still think that The American 8F gave Dudley a realistic scenario where he could get redeemed. In my eyes, when analyzing a villain, I go by the phrase, "Nobody is born evil, they're either raised evil or made evil by circumstance". Dudley to me, fits a sort of villain that was made to be irredeemable, but given a bit of thought about what he's doing and for what reason, it discredits the idea that was meant for him. In reality, when survival is all that matters to you, it's hard to feel remorse for your actions, and sometimes it's downright impossible. It can lead you to do things irrational to your narrative, like Dudley damaging Henry to stay longer on the Island. It's hinted that he did this to also prove himself to Sir Topham hat so that he couldn't get sent away. Even if these were selfish reasons for doing what he did, he still had reasons, and that tells me that, if he was given the proper chance and guidance, he could be redeemed. To me the only way to tell if someone is truly evil, is if he commits heinous acts with no reason at all. If you think about it for a moment, the reason Dudley did all that he did was because of "Survival in an age of scrap", kind of gives a small sense of sympathy for him (though it is miniscule). In the time and place the story is written in, it's safe to infer that almost all steam locomotives have been scrapped on the mainland, heck, even in the first part of the story, Dudley states, "My days are numbered on the other railway", this can give us the idea that diesels have pretty much dominated British rails, and Dudley would do whatever it takes to survive, and it would make sense why Dudley hates diesels as they were the ones who replaced his family and friends. It's kind of hard to move past prejudice against others when said others are the cause of many of the deaths of loved ones, or others that one cares about. I think that The American 8F thought about this, and decided to make an alternate reality, showcasing what could've happened in a scenario like the one Dudley was put in. It gives more depth to his character and gives him as sense of an actual character, rather than just a cardboard cutout. When it is explained by The Buried Truck that Dudley was inspired by a narcissistic and manipulative person in his life, basically gave me the impression that he was supposed to be nothing more than a cardboard cutout copy of that person, just as an engine. When it is said that his reason was for survival, it discredits that cardboard cutout copy he's is supposed to be, because as I said before, people will do anything when their narrative and reason is simply to survive, even if it is morally wrong. In conclusion, I think that Dudley's character, while intentionally was supposed to be irredeemable, is somewhat the opposite. When someone is given a reason or motive to their actions, it shows that they were influenced by a certain circumstance they lived with for a long time, and conversely when they are given zero reason or motive to their actions, it shows they are far past saving, and deserve any punishment they receive. Dudley while supposed to be written to be too far past saving, was written in a way that showed he could change with time, patience, and a new perspective.

@sabertooth3studioshq838

Ай бұрын

Hmmm, I guess that makes since.

@pizzaplanettruck9761

2 күн бұрын

I couldn't agree more. That's why I'm personally not a fan of Dudley. As Hector the Horrid showed, people have reasons behind their behavior, even if it doesn't justify it, and Dudley is no exception.

I haven’t watched the video fully, but I do understand what you are saying here. You are right. Some people (or engines) are irredeemable, and Dudley is one of them. He outright damaged Henry just so he could stay on Sodor longer and told lies about Bear to make everyone turn on him! Not to mention, his tirade in the climax of Lifting The Curtain just shows he’s gone mad. When people have gone mad, they are beyond saving. Dudley shows zero remorse for his actions and thought survival was a good justification for them, which it’s not! I mean, what justifies damaging property and telling lies about someone?! Nothing! If someone wants him to be redeemable, he/she is gonna have to change his character up enough for it to be earned, which is disrespectful to The Buried Truck as he’s stated in those Twitter posts you showed!

@timothythetankenginesfunen1075

14 күн бұрын

I think it's rather fitting that he doesn't reform because to quote Henry from NWR Origins "While the majority of engines hopefully do change, there are some that just don't." And the fact that he doesn't redeem himself makes this feel more adult. If he did redeem himself, then it would feel like something for little kids.

@everythingproductions2004

14 күн бұрын

@@timothythetankenginesfunen1075 Indeed

@pizzaplanettruck9761

2 күн бұрын

"Thought survival was a good justification". Well what was he supposed to do?

@timothythetankenginesfunen1075

2 күн бұрын

@@pizzaplanettruck9761 Whatever the case was, what he did was wrong.

@everythingproductions2004

2 күн бұрын

@@pizzaplanettruck9761 He could have just done what Oliver did: escape to Sodor and ask The Fat Controller to purchase him. The Fat Controller would have purchased him since he’s well aware of modernization at this point. Also, Dudley could have learnt to see not all diesels are bad and actually give diesels like Bear a fair chance to prove themselves good sorts

Dudley doesn't have to be a horrid engine he can be nice some times and a horrid engine other times

The only way to reform him is have a similar treatment to thomas1edward2henry3's diesel 10

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Buried confirmed Dudley will never be reformed and I don’t think T1E2H3 will just disregard that

I’m also planning to make an analysis on Dudley soon. He feels like the most real oc out there, if you know what I mean.

In my TTTE Universe, after Dudley left Sodor in Lifting The Curtain, he broke down at Barrow-In-Furness. Arry and Bert (Who Work At The Barrow Scrapyard In My Universe), then took him to the scrapyard where he met his demise at the hands of the cutter’s torch. He now haunts the mainland as a ghost, looking for unsuspecting diesels to take to the afterlife.

Dudley went his own way…It goes to show how low people will go to get what they want…Sometimes it’s too late and impossible to forgive them… Like Dudley purposefully caused crashes on the railway! All the engines just have crashes by accident…But Dudley damaged railway property and endangered people with his recklessness…We’re talking about a railway…It’s not a playground…It’s one thing if these were accidents…BUT these events were specifically planned (except the cannonball one..I think it’s called that?…But still Dudley was being an idiot)

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Glad to hear your thoughts

Dudley is one of the most interesting Thomas villains, I've ever seen. I liked the alternate ending on him, but I prefer him as a bad engine.

Yah all I can say is that he and Alfred would get along perfectly, one is a manipulative, narcissistic person who hates diesels (•coughs• racist) while another just wants to see the world burn. ----- That aside, Dudley is the example of someone who’s pretends to be a good person but the moment they’re alone with someone they hate the mask comes off and their true colors show.

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Really enforces that there’s no redemption for him since he’s made his choice clear

@peleanimationcomics3263

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane If I was there as an employee when Dudley got caught I would’ve yelled out as he was leaving “have fun with Alfred in hell you manipulative, narcissistic, RACIST ASSHOLE!!” 😎😎😈😈 (yah I can be mean)

Look Gary there I am. Wow, this video is great and very well-done. You did an excelent job explaining how the story works and why Dudley's villian arc does good without a redemption. ... And something I prolly shoulda went more in-depth about in my video, ahahah.

@ScorchZane

13 күн бұрын

Cheers, I think you also did a good job with your Dudley video and look forward to see what else you have planned

I still want to know how Dudley would play a role if he arrived in early years of the NWR me and my Dudley fanboy friend I've been thinking about this too

In my AU, Dudley redeemed towards the end of my rewrite of “Lifting The Curtain”, and was sold to the same heritage where Alfred works.

Nice job mate cheers.

The situation here with Dudley is similar to one I’ve had where during Middle and High School there was this kid I was hanging out with who acted like he was supposedly my friend and we’d talk a bit but later he started outwardly acting like a jerk where he wanted to use me for stuff like money (would get mad if it was unavailable) and doing his homework while outright insulting me. To me it seemed like I was an idiot he could easily screw with (I have autism so it was hard to tell if he was up to no good), even trying to make me agree with the things he liked or wanted to do and also giving attitude if I didn’t comply. He clearly was a bad “friend” who after a while just mostly wanted to use me only and have everything just about him which got worse during high school where I was then actively trying to avoid him after a while. Thankfully the pandemic had me away from him and we haven’t really dealt with each other much since but he’s still been trying to message me acting “pleasant” and not acknowledging he was a bad “friend”; I don’t think he gets the message that him being a user will eventually make someone want to drive away from him. I’ve been out of high school since 2022 and I do plan on officially ditching him as soon as possible via messaging him and even blocking him afterwards where I never want any contact with him again.

@lachlantheGWRengine

10 күн бұрын

Well, I can relate. I had to deal someone who was just like that.

@jaanshersaeed4541

10 күн бұрын

@@lachlantheGWRengine Oh really?

@lachlantheGWRengine

10 күн бұрын

@@jaanshersaeed4541 Yeah. I wish We could have gotten along, but that wasn't to be.

@jaanshersaeed4541

10 күн бұрын

@@lachlantheGWRengine Did you ever eventually ditch this person?

@lachlantheGWRengine

10 күн бұрын

@@jaanshersaeed4541 He moved away and I never got the chance to make things right. Then again, it could never have worked.

i admit i didn't understand what Dudley is all about, until i saw this and now i understand he's narcissistic manipulative and despises diesels and sabotage and turns everyone against Bear just so he can survive and find a home, but he dug his own grave.

Unfortunately,im not gonna be able to watch the stream,but i'll see the video later when i come back.

@matheusproductions.

4 ай бұрын

Edit:Interesting video.

I mean, TBT DID ALSO say that we’re allowed to use Dudley for our own projects. (As long as we give credit, but that part is self explanatory at this point.) I don’t see it as character assassination, but more so a “What if” concept.

In My Headcaon Dudley The Vagrant Engine Never Changes

Yippee,New Video

I watched the "Dudley the Vagrant Engine" saga a little while ago, and it's currently one of the best adaptations in TTTE I've ever seen. What was shocking about it was just how realistic Dudley's character is. There are people who are incapable of feeling remorse for their actions, and knowing what such people can do is frightening. For me personally, the point when Dudley became beyond redeemable was the incident with the landslide. The fact he was willing to endanger the lives of his passengers just to spite Bear and boost his own ego and then lie about it shows that he really is a monster.

I kinda prefer the other ending where Dudley can be redeemed and it has a potential of more stories about him. See Dudley is a gresley O2 so here is my idea and that is his relationship with his cousins : Ryan (I want to keep Ryan in my headcanon), Gordon and Spencer.

To me there is no redemption for Dudley (no matter what Thomas headcannon it is), he’s a sad reminder that (like I said in a community tab) there are terrible people out there far beyond the point of redemption, and if you try, it’s almost next to impossible. Even in a world of talking trains and other machines, this is a something that could’ve happened in the railway series. There I am Gary, there I am 7:10

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

Ай бұрын

Why do people redem him

So basically Dudley is Thomas version to Big Jack Horner from Puss In Boots 2: The Last Wish as they’re both irredeemable monsters

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

and an inverted but more I guess sinister variant of diesel

Diesel 10 Was Experiment By British Railways With His Claw Being Used To Rip Off Steam Engines's Faces In Thomas Headcanon

@Canadiansteamer43

4 ай бұрын

He was later sentenced to death for 60 counts of engine murders, 29 counts of arson, 43 counts of human murder, and 23 counts of hate crimes against steam engines.

Guys I'm leaving a qna on one of my videos so if you want to comment any questions but own Thomas fnaf roblox or my au but I won't tell my au that would be something in 2026 but anyways leave question in the video for the reason I'm in this video because I feel like no one would say anything in my videos so this is why I won't to do this so leave some questions in the comments

Dudley does not need to be redeemed, and He should not BE Redeemed. It completely undermines what he did and honestly shows that some people just don't understand Dudley's character. I mean no disrespect to TheAmerican8F. I think the way he wrote it was pretty good. But Dudley is NOT a good person, he manipulated the other engines, lied multiple times, and treated Bear like crap. Just to "earn" his place in the NWR. And when he gets caught, he does not admit what he did was wrong and tried to manipulated STH into keeping him on. Dudley is not only the main character in his stories, he's the villan too, and we don't need another redemption arc after so many "bad" characters have already turned "good".

I find it funny he's on the villains wiki lol

I think Dudley could have a redemption arc but faking the whole thing and have bear, mavis ,and boco all in diss repear by faking illness but once all are in the works his boiler bursted and tried working through but slowly fell apart.

I think of the story where the bad engines go. I think of that story when you see people's character. Some people are just awful, and they succeed in life. Even though they are toxic people to be around, they succeed and never change cause they don't want or need to. The alternate ending is just dudly winning, which happens in real life, but do you really wanna do that and have it be a happy ending? I don't see it as a happy ending. I guess I am just a stickler for people getting their comeuppance in the end.

Good Video.

6:42 a season 12 promo

We see Dudley’s fate in that one spooky fan episode…also I like the original arc and had no idea Dudley was based on a real person…I simply thought the alternate ending was a creative twist but the original ending flows a lot better and is true to life…something HIT and Mateo royally screwed up

Nostalgica critcic thinks that osmosis jones and inside out are the same

0:43 cronos films tv also says that line

ngl The one adaptation I saw was of him being sent to the scrapyard

I mean no disrespect to The Buried Truck, but people wanting or trying to redeem Dudley was really inevitable for several reasons. First, there's a BIG difference between Dudley and a diesel like Diesel or Diesel 10. Dudley doesn't hate the other type of engine purely out of spite. He hates them because they actually wronged him by threatening his life. It's a lot more difficult to overcome a prejudice if it's the result of something traumatic or a wrongdoing, because you seemingly have "proof" that your belief is true. Next, those that are pro redemption know this doesn't justify his actions, but Dudley wasn't lying about it being survival. From his perspective, he was doing what he had to do to survive, like Douglas when he stowed away with Donald, or Oliver when he ran away to Sodor. As selfish as he was, it's really hard not to be selfish when you're fleeing from a place that's either a hellhole or treats you like dirt. Finally, diesels like Diesel, Bowler, and Spamcan, have been given redemption stories and arcs, even though they weren't meant to return and redeem either. So if they're "allowed to", why can't Dudley get one? Is he really any worse? Especially since they didn't have scrap looming over them when they came. So while I get the point about redemption not being for everyone, with these points, fans wanting to redeem Dudley should NOT be a surprise. Even Bear had sympathy for Dudley. I'm sorry, but with Dudley's motivation being to be preserved, and the threat of scrap, Dudley was doomed to be unintentionally sympathetic. We already have irredeemable steam engines in the form of Alfred and Crovan in "The Three Railway Engines". Also, Dudley becoming a "good guy", doesn't mean he becomes 100% good. He can still be gruff and standoffish, especially to diesels, but puts up with them because he knows where he'd be without the NWR.

I've just realized something Gordon and Dudley are related because both of them were built by Mr Gresley.

@ScorchZane

8 сағат бұрын

@@JosephRailwayStudios2000 I mean it’s kinda obvious

@JosephRailwayStudios2000

8 сағат бұрын

@@ScorchZane true I wonder what Gordon would reaction about after Dudley revealed his true colors after he framed Bear I guess that he would have been shocked and outraged.

@ScorchZane

8 сағат бұрын

@@JosephRailwayStudios2000 more like eternal questioning of his family relations

@JosephRailwayStudios2000

7 сағат бұрын

@@ScorchZane I see.

What is your thoughts on nostalgia critic

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

I find him funny these days ngl

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane not a fan of him since some of his content can have false información

I know how to have him redeemed To just not have him as a saboteur Like mine “lieutenant Dudley Adams” named after a dauntless pilot is preserved at the vicarstown rail museum and he was simply just a normal O2 built, ran, withdrawn then preserved

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

I mean yeah whether he lived or didn’t is up to out imaginations since Buried never implied Dudley’s fate (well some say he may be that ghost Diesel encounters).

@Jintyandpugstudios356

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZaneactually,buried confirmed that the ghost in demons was dudley,so we can assume he went to the ironworks to be cut up.

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@Jintyandpugstudios356maybe or he was already cut up and his remains were shipped to those works

@aplane9625

3 ай бұрын

However people like the American 8F can have Dudley redeemed since it’s their AU

I view it as a “What if?”, I don’t believe that The American 8F was saying “Hey, this scumbag who hurt you in real life deserves a second chance.”, I believe it’s saying “Hey, what if this fictional character wasn’t completely evil and could be redeemed?”.

I love redemption arcs (dimitri and sasha, my beloved) but dudley shouldn't have 1. He's a huge asshole, very narsacistic and didn't show any remorse, he's similar to william afton in that regard. At least diesel 10 is funny.

Personally, I do think Dudley can be redeemed (i'm not on Twitter, Facebook etc so I have no idea about the personal issues around him). My Headcanon for him is he would be found years later on "scraps door" on a siding hidden behind trucks on BR at a station and yard brought by the next Topham Hatt or after who has no idea who Dudley is, Dudley is still repairable and is given a second chance and new lease on life and chooses to use it to redeem himself (having realized all his lying, cheating and manipulations got him nowhere) but the Engines of Sodor find this extremely hard but they eventually do forgive him.

why are people mad about a redemption arc? I kinda like them honestly

@jimmyhook4852

4 ай бұрын

Same here. Redemption arcs are awesome. :)

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Sadly they aren’t for everyone

@jimmyhook4852

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Ah well. To each of their own. :)

@johnathonmcjohn3

4 ай бұрын

Probably because dudley literally cannot be redeemed Ever

@jimmyhook4852

4 ай бұрын

@@johnathonmcjohn3 Again, to each of their own. :P

Well, this certainly has made me think. And while I do respect theburiedtruck, and what Dudley's character represents, me and a friend of mine have already had him redeemed. Although it's a bit different from how the American 8f did it. And while I like the idea of him redeeming himself, I do know that life doesn't always work like a cliche Disney film and there are bad people in this world who do bad things and have no regrets. So yeah. That's what I have to say here. I am gonna have Dudley redeemed, but not completely. After all, gotta respect the source material.

@pizzaplanettruck9761

3 ай бұрын

How did your friend do it?

@traindude57theb12

2 ай бұрын

​@@pizzaplanettruck9761Well, I can't really go into too much detail in of people plagiarizing the idea, but I will tell you this. Lifting the Curtain, doesn't happen. And Dudley saves the passengers AND Bear in Cannonball.

What is your Thoughts on thomas a crossovers that are not the ones with fantasy cartoons

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Honestly hope it works

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane yeah i think but aré there any cartoons that aré set in a real life setting and not fantasy cartoons

I'm thinking on making a gordon story based on the early seasons of thomas, but i don't know if it's a good idea, what's ur opinion scorch?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Would make for some nice stories

@TaG.189

4 ай бұрын

​@@ScorchZane ok, so here Is what my story Is about: -narrator introduces peel godred. -gordon arrives with the express, and he goes into his siding, he hits the buffers hard due to him being tired, and James teases him about It. -the next day Gordon gets tasked with pulling a train to peel godred in the Mountains, due to being to many tourist, but James teases gordon, telling him, it's because he can't concentrate. -gordon complains because the way to the Mountains Is a One way set of tracks -the driver tells him the reason why. Gordon slowly grows to like and finally enjoy his way up the Mountains. -meanwhile James gets too vain and cocky with the express and accidently gets sent into a siding Just as Gordon thunders by. -that night, Gordon teases James that he should pull the Mountain train because It helps with concentration. -the end (Main inspiration: that One clearwater BTS Imagine of Gordon) What do you think..?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@TaG.189 I mean interesting plot tho could use some excitement when put on video

@TaG.189

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane yeah, i am still writing some bits in It, i'm thinking about adding some facial reactions such as the buffers bashing, Gordon puffing on the Mountain, and Gordon thundering by James, but i think i might add some more.

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@TaG.189 I mean up to you otherwise good work and good luck

I have the best Dudley adaptations

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Look don’t get me wrong your adaptations are great, tho I just choose what I did mostly for preference, don’t get the wrong idea yours are good

@trackmastertomy

4 ай бұрын

@ScorchZane No I was just kidding 😂But I do think that even if the American 8f doesn't get the character that TheBuriedTruck wanted for Dudley, he definitely should be allowed to give his own take on Dudley.

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@trackmastertomy true

If I did a alternate ending for Dudley, here’s what I would do: Dudley did get preserved but he ended up being an attraction at a theme park similar to the Disneyland Railroad. All he can do is watch the trains pass by as he give crowds rides around the park and tries his hardest not to lose his sanity. But I think Dudley deserved his punishment, don’t you?

@ScorchZane

Ай бұрын

damn karma is such an axe to the tree

If I ever had Dudley come back in my universe post Lifting the Curtain or Demons, he'd basically be kind of a zombie from being borderline scrapped (as proven by Demons), forced to live and suffer in his body out of his own sheer will and hatred for those who don't follow his black-and-white worldview. Never to move on, never to find peace, only to suffer, because he cannot change and is forced to be left behind, forgotten, left to rot and suffer for the higher deity's sick pleasure and entertainment. so yeah, i uh, have a bit of a dislike for dudley and what he did in his stories, how could ya tell

I understand that Dudley may have a few fans here and there. But I could not agree more: Dudley is definitely irredeemable; the term malignant narcissist describes him perfectly. The way he divided Bear against the other engines is beyond forgivable. And if The Buried Truck did indeed base Dudley on a friend who was just like Dudley, I feel badly for him. There are snakes that lurk in the grass waiting to prey on good souls like Bear. And if The Buried Truck ever decided to bring Dudley back for another story, I wouldn't want to see it based on his redemption, but rather on his defeat.

I think he just wants people to stay off his character, but what’s wrong with a little redemption arc?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

If you watched the whole video you’ll understand why Otherwise I guess I can tell, not everyone is meant to be redeemed, sure Thomas may be about friendship doesn’t mean it can’t deteriorate, sure it may be about talking trains doesn’t mean they can’t be scrapped, sure some engines can be redeemed but Dudley isn’t one of them. Keep in mind when Buried talked about Dudley it was like he was talking about that one friend Dudley was based was him.

@sunwoolee2645

4 ай бұрын

Listen I think that he has a good reason I wouldn’t want to die to better people

What Is your Thoughts on tugs and thomas crossovers

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

That can work, since Tugs is basically Thomas but with boats and has more serious themes to it

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Thought tugs and thomas aré not set in the same universe

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 I never said they were

What about Cozy Glow? She's manipulated and tries to be nice, but then her secrets were revealed. Can she be redeemable?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

I don’t know who that is, depends who is she?

@SillyDartPony2

4 ай бұрын

She's a villain character introduced late into the series she's in. My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. She tries to make others believe that she's innocent. But making others felt bad while getting away scot-free. She tries to gain power by turning everyone against the new students, but that fails and she's imprisoned in Tartarus. (One of the show's locations) Then later, tries to gain power (litteraly) and praticipated in an all-out attack against the main characters, but fails again 'cause the aforementioned students convinced everyone of each of their kind to work together and friendship. Thus causing the main characters to survive and make Cozy and the two other villains she helped, 'taste the rainbow'. The three villains were then imprisoned in stone. Yay!

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Oh I see, well it depends on how a character was made, since Dudley made from a personal vendetta Buried went through, he expressed his thoughts when Dudley was sent away with no redemption. So really that depends, it’s just some characters just don’t have remorse or redemption and that’s fine for Dudley, since it would not work out well if he did get redemption (otherwise you might as well talk this with Buried).

@SillyDartPony2

4 ай бұрын

Sorry, don't have Twitter (Still not happy how it's been renamed to 'X')

@jimmyhook4852

4 ай бұрын

Fellow MLP fan right here: Honestly, I really wish Cozy Glow could be reformed and not be treated the way Hasbro treated her in the final two seasons of FIM. :/

Would Thomas with cartoon crossovers work if Thomas lives in characterville in an Roger rabbit au

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

No

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane what about in a charaville universe that Is dosent set in the same universe as the original ttte

3:59 did he had meet that mainpulatied person when he was a child

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

probably best if you ask Buried that

Fun fact: 87546 (in BTWF Version 2 ,not BTWF exploring Sodor) is the same class as Dudley

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

Yeah tho that’s BTWF’s interpretation though since both would’ve been in the game if it wasn’t cancelled, it would be interesting to see next to each other

@1fstudiosthesecond392

3 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane not really , because from what I remember in the btwf leaks before the game got cancelled ,87546 had a completely different model ,it was based out of one from trainz ,I'm not sure what class it is ,but it never got added ,likely because it didn't get a script added However there is a btwf copy game that made the exact same 87546 model from the ground up ,the game is called "tracks to great destinations"

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

@@1fstudiosthesecond392 hmmm I don’t think that model was the one in great destinations since if I recall correctly 87546 in BTWF before it cancellation and reboot was meant to be a tank engine

Why do people want to redeem Dudley so bad? If they want to do stuff with him, then write a story where Flying Scotsman calls him out for how he treated Bear, but Dudley still refuses to accept responsibility for his actions.

@pizzaplanettruck9761

3 ай бұрын

Because as awful as his actions were, he was right when he said it was survival. And Bear himself felt sympathy for Dudley. Personally, I think Dudley should've redeemed to make him different from Alfred, Crovan, and the first red engine.

Well Like The Burid Truck Said Dudley Is Like A Person In Real Life Who Did All The Things That Dudley Did On Sodor Well He's Not The Only One I Also Have That Kind Of Person Too But I Don't Have To Say Anymore I Don't Want To Remember It Again

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

not to mention he’s speaks about Dudley like he’s a real personal really shows how deep his inspiration for Dudley is.

with all do respect i respect everyone but my personal belief is that unless you commit murder or mass murder you can be redeemed.

Is everyone is not gonna asked why is henrys front coupling is moving by its self?

@user-mc6rm2xc5u

4 ай бұрын

No because that's a trainz issue, so i doubt 8F had any control over that

what do you think of my head-canon for Dudley Basis: He remains a GNR O2 Build Date: 1932 Personality: Still a Deceptive and Manipulative Saboteur Livery: LNER Black (1932-1948), BR Black (1948-1968) Number: LNER 3481 (1932-1946), LNER 3971 (1946-1948), BR 63971 (1948-1968) Scrapped: 1968 He now roams the rails on his way to The Fat Controller's Railway as a Ghost

@ScorchZane

2 ай бұрын

Honestly quite nice

@DarkBlueEngineProductions2024

Ай бұрын

@@ScorchZanesince Dudley is a villain Would you say he’s broken or pure evil or both? For me he’s both

@timothythetankenginesfunen1075

3 күн бұрын

@@DarkBlueEngineProductions2024 Pure evil in my opinion.

@DarkBlueEngineProductions2024

2 күн бұрын

@@timothythetankenginesfunen1075 how did you find me

@timothythetankenginesfunen1075

2 күн бұрын

@@DarkBlueEngineProductions2024 I didn’t find you. I can just reply eaisly. So do you think you might do an adaptation of Dudley’s stories?

Perhaps sometime after in a au after this he changed his ways

aré there any cartoons that aré set in a real life setting and not fantasy cartoons

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Idk

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane i think el chavo the animated series at for esrly seasons

While I do like the production value of the American 8F’s alternate ending and he put love and effort into it, but that’s just not who and what Dudley is. Dudley is just an unredeemable bastard. I’ve had an awful experience with my narcissistic mother and brother and I empathize with Mike/ theburiedtruck just how unpleasant and frankly miserable dealing with narcissists; especially narcissistic sociopaths. Dudley was a manipulative, narcissistic prick who actively hurt and sabotaged others for the sake of survival. He almost got away with it, but his impatience and his descent into madness And in the Carson vids adaptation of lifting the curtain DCG12B just nails his performance as Dudley and captures his sheer vitriol and him gradually going insane as his only source of salvation shattered right in front of him and it was his own doing.

@ScorchZane

Ай бұрын

honestly I agree

I don’t know man I think Dudley was totally in the right here in my opinion

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Go on elaborate

@NathanielPiscian

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane uhh😅welp nAAktiually ☝️ I think Dudley completely in the right all along and bear set up the accidents and Dudley’s Savin the passengers shall not go ungratituded Soo yeah that uh my explanation or lack of😅 I don’t like diesels 🗿

Dudley not getting a redemption is part of why the original version works so well and I do prefer it that way. However, we can't overlook the reality about what he and countless other engines had to deal with on the mainland. It's well-established by this point that more and more steam engines on the mainland were being scrapped as they were no longer needed (reflecting what was happening on British Railways in real life at the time) and the general attitude of diesels on the mainland towards steam engines has been well-established too. We know what engines such as Oliver had to endure to reach Sodor to survive, and all of that gets you thinking, surely Dudley can't be the only steam engine who thinks and acts this way? Who's to say that there weren't other engines who were just as desperate to survive by any means necessary?

I didn't know Dudley was inspired by a irl person TheBuriedTruck knew (did he ever mention If Dudley is the person's real name?) I get what TheBuriedTruck is saying, but if I were him, I'd just try not to pay it too much attention.

Anyone waiting for Halloween? 🎃👻 ☠️ This Halloween could be a major ark or breakthrough of Dudley’s story. What would Dudley as he’s a haunted demonic scrap engine? He could be more evil, bloody, and more murderous than Timothy?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Maybe, tho he’d probably just scare diesels since him killing them may be a bit much and too edgy

@user-gc5yw1ei1r

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Do you think that Dudley wants to get revenge on Donald, Bear, and the Fat Controller after they had done to him since lifting the curtain?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

idk, never thought about that, tho he probably can’t cause by now he’s probably dead

@user-gc5yw1ei1r

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Well, in Carson Video Workshop’s video “Demons”. Diesel encounters a huge scrap tender engine that he tries to scare Ary and Bert. But when his backfired, he was forced to put the scrap engine back where he found it. When he got to the scrap engine to tow back, he heard some illusional voice that said “Sleep, You Disturbed, My Sleep”. He thought Ary and Bert are playing a trick on him. But they weren’t there. He was all alone with the scrap engine. So Diesel towed the Scrap Engine back out of the scrap shed. As he did that, he heard the same Illusional voice again that said “Sleep….”. Then he saw some fireflies on the scrap engine that illuminated the scrap engines. Diesel gazed at them and realized they’re not fireflies. They are eyes gazing out of the engines past. All of the sudden, all hell broke loose as a face appeared on the scrap engine as they’re never been on before. This scares Diesel so badly as race back as fast as he could as he and the other scrap engines disappeared. At the end, he thought everything just happen was an illusion. Or was it….

@user-gc5yw1ei1r

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane The appearance of this scrap engine’s face and shape in the “Demons” episode is similar to Dudley that fans thought he’s the scrap engine that scared diesel. Even the buried truck kinda confirm it too. This engine appeared in Carson Video Workshop videos “Demons” and at the end story of “Lifting the Certain” . I thought that the story of Dudley the Vagrant Engine hasn’t ended yet as we don’t know what happened to him. But after watching these two videos by Carson’s Video Workshop, I think this Halloween will have a great horror story and will have the final conclusion on what happens next to Dudley and what’s going to do.

McDonald's or burger king

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

McDonald’s (only in occasion)

Does violence and gore works on thomas

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

No since that’d be a headache to think about

@megariderfire1994

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane And even though Thomas is more than a kid's show... even having violence and gore would too extreme and maybe a too edgy as well. That and...how do you expect to have violence and gore in a series about sentient giant vehicles? (And no, nobody has to answer that question. You're all good.)

Tf this a gresley O2 named Dudley THIS IS AMERICA NOT BRI'AIN :insert shooting intensifies:

@johnathonmcjohn3

3 ай бұрын

Do you have the not smart?

dudley the vagrant engine Well, you know what happened to him? Well purpose he was sent to scrap yard. It was too late for him, Donald said What happened easy? He was taking to the smoking shot door shot and there was a clunk and a clench. The grab a grabbed the dudley the vagrant engine And there was a and when the door phone opened , he was scrappedAnd there was a and when the door The door is Slowly opened and he was scrap And you saw the whole thing Henry and Gordon and James

What is your Thoughts on Thomas crossovers

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

They just don’t work

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane how

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 how the hell are a bunch of talking trains gonna do with crossing over with say superheroes? Not to mention Thomas and the books he’s based off have a very different type of logic compared to any franchise who has intense action or weird circumstances

@chavopatyfanstudios2005

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane does one with btb works postman pat and Any other british shows work with thomas

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 tbh any British shows can work in Thomas, since they were based on what’s in real life

I personaly find this howl thing to be vary telling of the kind of person The Buried Truck is. He talked about having to deel with a narcissistic person in his own life yet he used The American 8f not knowing about it as justification to puplicly and (in an ironic twist) "narcissisticly" talk down to The American 8f as if they knew the howl time but just didn't care. It's clear The Buried Truck chose to take the alternate ending personaly viewing it as if The American 8f was defending the narcissist that The Buried Truck had to deel with in his own life. I now find myself on the fence about wether or not I want anything to do with The Buried Truck's stories moving forward. Don't get me wrong I "COMPLETELY" undertand The Buried Truck's fealings having to deel with a narcisist isn't fun but it's still important to note he chose to take it personaly and didn't need to be so heavy handed about his responce.

@ScorchZane

3 ай бұрын

I mean to be honest, I don’t blame him for how he talked to him, I have a feeling he imagined what he would say, if anyone defended that narcissistic from say his eyes makes sense he was letting somethings out. Tbh some people might not know if they are talking in a narcissist way, since sometimes it ain’t easy to read when in conversation or talking about someone. Whether or not you want anything to do with his stories, it’s up to you. And yeah maybe he could’ve handled it better, since even in his tweets there were some bits that could come off as maybe “harsh”, and I could say some responses to the Alternate ending can be considered dramatic but still raises some good points.

@junioraura9958

3 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane Exactly

Why were all words said normally except for curtain?

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Wdym?

I don't think that Dudley should be redeemed

Hey what is the conclusion song?

@ScorchZane

4 күн бұрын

@@Guestyplayz556 Gymnopedie 1

@Guestyplayz556

4 күн бұрын

@@ScorchZane ty

All though i personally do not hate the idea of Dudley being redeemed, i don't like it either. My reason is the life isn't a disney movie reason, and you'd have to tone down his actions in order to justify what he did, as Buried said, i like how 8F didn't just make him a good guy out of the blue, but you know, the harm was still done. Now that i know Dudley was based off of a real guy Buried knew, i honestly dislike the redemption idea even more, kinda feels disrespectful towards Buried, but if someone makes him a good guy, i honeslty don't care because there are much more important matters in life than talking choo choo trains.

This is just my opinion, but I like the alternative ending of lifting the curtain And I like that Dudley Redeemed himself in that, but that's just my opinion, though

Well I kinda see a problem with Dudley's stories

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

Go on

@mary.of.mares.1470

4 ай бұрын

@@ScorchZane and that is his family relationship with Gordon. At the end of the Dudley saga Gordon just acts like he never met him. Now that is just a out of the Character of Gordon

@ScorchZane

4 ай бұрын

@@mary.of.mares.1470 I would disagree since Gordon never got a chance to know any (if not all) of his cousins, and it’s not like he’s met all of them, since he was sent to the NWR right after the first batch to it made sense why Gordon never knew him. (Sure there is one AU episode where after Gordon was rebuilt at Crewe he spent some time at the LNER where he met some new cousins and reunite with some siblings and old cousins he knew, it was unclear if Dudley was one of the original O2s on the GNR). Like sure he was deeply wounded hearing the loss of his siblings, but that was because by the time they were built he would’ve bonded with them, since they are A1s by Gresley and would share the same mind complex. Tho I like to think Gordon was happy to meet him since Dudley is indeed his cousin, and it made sense why he believe Dudley since one question should be asked of Gordon. “Why would his cousin, or family lie?” Though it would be nice to know what Gordon knowing his cousin is full of shit and lied, maybe he would’ve felt mortified since in his mind, he can’t grasped how his own would sabotage and manipulate a situation in a way Dudley did.