Why does Starship only have 2 rear fins?!
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We’re less than a week away from this year’s Starship update from Elon Musk. And before the party gets started, we’re already catching some major changes happening before our eyes.
The most obvious change is the fact that Starship only has two finny / flappy / airbrakey things instead of three. Now the previous version touted just last year at the DearMoon event showed Starship sporting 3 fins that were also its landing legs.
So now that we’re seeing only two, the question has come up, why? Why two?
So today we’re going to do a really quick rundown on why two might be better than three, show you some potential problems with three fins, and then we’ll show you exactly how they’ll control their reentry and landing with just 2 rear fins.
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Tim: "Kerbal Space isn't an engineering tool" NASA engineers: nervous laughter
@Operation_Blackbird
4 жыл бұрын
Thats funny! Plot twist, NASA help make KSP2 so they can use it too! Edit: Plot twist 2: NASA Owns KSP and they are making a less advance version for public and the advance for engineering.
@Oblivion-ki4qj
4 жыл бұрын
hahah yea somthing like this... i was amazed by the fact that people even complane about this one! Ohh my Good somtimes i just dont get it ^^ LUL
@drewbrackett6798
4 жыл бұрын
That is very funny!!
@brendanhenderson6999
4 жыл бұрын
Space shuttle parts worked to get the space shuttle up. Why not? XD
@b-man2961
4 жыл бұрын
Prototyping then?
I like how transparent Elon musk is about his designs. So cool
@AdelaeR
4 жыл бұрын
It's not like he has any actual competition so there's no point in keeping anything secret. The real secret is not in the visible design anyway but in the flight computer.
@Jbolo123
4 жыл бұрын
AdelaeR Ik haha. Even if someone wanted to catch up they don’t have the resources or architecture to surpass him. I love this man.
@Jonassoe
4 жыл бұрын
Industrial espionage is irrelevant because they keep changing everything all the time.
@panda3d180
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this way is better because he can get feedback easier from a bunch of unemployed engineers.
@steveo6034
4 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest result of his transparency and social media interaction has been the number of kids in the US going to school for aerospace engineering & related fields. He has, IMO, single-handedly done what no man or woman has accomplished before- revived a fading STEM program across the US and, one might argue, across the world 🌍!
I really love how distinct the two fin design makes Starship look.
@gotwreket2812
3 жыл бұрын
yeah me too. When I first saw the two fin design, I imediately thought: well this is new and intresting *proceeds to spend hours looking it up*
Idk why people hate it when you play KSP. It's a great tool for demonstrating basic concepts of spaceflight and engineering. I'm all for KSP in your videos
@nickymoloney4218
4 жыл бұрын
Be happy, before long deepfakes will become perfect. (in politics, not here...)
@zhongxina9420
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickymoloney4218 dame dane memes
I did love the 3 fin design a lot. Especially the half-white one. All-Shiny was cool too. But hey, anything that gets us to mars is a beautiful piece of machinery!
@JohnnyZenith
4 жыл бұрын
Prefer 2.
@philiproe1661
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome but impractical vs boring but practical
@cactusfishy1596
4 жыл бұрын
ITS was and is still my favorite rocket design ever. Watch the animated video spaceX released, "Interplanetary transport system"
@esecallum
4 жыл бұрын
nothing on mars we dont have on earth. mars is just a desolate dump.
@loserface3962
4 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum ye its so he can test his new tesla race cars without speed regulations
The change to less but much higher quality videos was the right one. Well done Tim!
@nickymoloney4218
4 жыл бұрын
The change to real Elon (a recent video) over the silent, undisclosed, fake-kerbal-musk is for the better.
Engineer: "Honestly, its impossible." Jeff Bezos: "Elon Musk was able to built this in a cave! With a box of scraps!"
@kitkatwizard
4 жыл бұрын
Engineer: I'm sorry! But, we're not Elon Musk...
@gildedbear5355
4 жыл бұрын
*adjusts glasses* um, excuse me... but Elon actually built it in a field out of sheet metal... (just having fun, no disrespect intended)
@kitkatwizard
4 жыл бұрын
@@gildedbear5355 *laughs in main character* ha you're technically wrong since it was actually the engineers and builders that work for Elon Muck that built the ship
@gildedbear5355
4 жыл бұрын
@@kitkatwizard LOL! That rare case where everybody is wrong!
@Bartekkru100
4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Who?
Elon: "Fly my beautiful starship" Starship: "This isn't flying, it's falling with style!"
@thunderbird1921
4 жыл бұрын
I actually flew a mini Starship in KSP with three steerable rear fins. I couldn't believe how stable it actually was. The vehicle stayed on a glide course until I pulled the nose up for final descent over a landing field.
@stillperfectgenerations5852
4 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbird1921 did you? Good for you! So tell me what you know about the number of children in America that go to bed hungry every night? How about the number of Americas Veterans that are homeless and forgotten today? Ever wondered how many elderly Americans are forced monthly to make the decision to buy groceries for the month, or buy the medication they need? All the problems in real America today, and you think it's a great idea to fund this 'space' nonsense with even MORE FUNDING? Sure pal, that makes sense... You must live in a very narcissistic existence! Good for you, I guess...
@WarriorNinjaCat
4 жыл бұрын
@@stillperfectgenerations5852 Chill dude those things have always been a problem and always will.
@ahamay2012
4 жыл бұрын
Africa has no space program at all...
@stillperfectgenerations5852
4 жыл бұрын
@@WarriorNinjaCat I disagree. It's called Priorities friend! Humanity should take precedence over space exploration. Can you honestly disagree?
Congratulations for reaching *400.000 subscribers!*
@spaceenthusiast7160
4 жыл бұрын
401K*
@SteveMHN
4 жыл бұрын
Well deserved.
@nicklausgutknecht6226
4 жыл бұрын
402k**
@odysseusrex5908
4 жыл бұрын
@@nicklausgutknecht6226 Let's see, 401k six hours ago, 402k 33 minutes ago, so we;re gaining about 4000, every 24 hours, or 167 an hour. Not too shabby as an old prof of mine used to say.
@riparianlife97701
4 жыл бұрын
And blowing past that mark by an extra 2000 in a day.
Use this as a: “Tim is an amazing individual who takes so much time becoming a mini expert on every topic just so he can help little rocket fans like us. He deserves so much support and I can’t wait to see how successful he will be in the future” button
from MK1, to SN8 and even SN9 on the pad right now! This is a really cool throwback.
"KPS isn't an engineering tool" Elon Musk in his free time:
@jackburns6403
4 жыл бұрын
Kerbal Program Space
@angelbar
4 жыл бұрын
GOTCHA!!... Elon doesn't have free time...
@nickymoloney4218
4 жыл бұрын
Nope, Everyday Astronaut was playing with pic-in-pic in his free time.
@nickymoloney4218
4 жыл бұрын
@@jackburns6403 Check your eyesight, it is not that "deep" a "fake" even. (Why do this anyway? The low-q deep-fake (in a recent video there is a real person))
@jackburns6403
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickymoloney4218 What?
Falcon Nine landings are not ho hum to people who have waited for them since Mercury space capsules came in their cereal boxes. :)
@CocoaBeachLiving
4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, of course for me it was Apollo, but nope, it'll never get old👌👍
@scorpio6587
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I still find them spectacular and exciting.
@dsdy1205
4 жыл бұрын
YOU HAD MERCURY SPACE CAPSULES IN YOUR CEREAL BOXES????
@Andy_1479
4 жыл бұрын
I have met quite a few people that have had no idea that SpaceX was landing falcon 9 like this. While still awesome to me it's cool to see their reactions.
@july8xx
4 жыл бұрын
What about us old farts? Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon serials on television and Space Cadets on the Dumont network. Listening to Scott Shepard sitting on his roman candle built by the lowest bidder, or watching the first moon landing with my one year old on my lap. I have been fascinated with the space program all my life. It’s never been boring.
KSP is great! There is no reason to feel bad when you are using it in your videos, @Everyday Astronaut
@supersonictumbleweed
4 жыл бұрын
Try Principia mod for extra hard realistic physics
@fladder1
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I'm betting Elon uses it to test his theories.
@Nails077
4 жыл бұрын
If someone gets triggered by KSP they must have a serious heart deficiency.
@kerbodynamicx472
4 жыл бұрын
Supersonic Tumbleweed and RSS/RO
@RAiNfORAiNbOW
4 жыл бұрын
@@fladder1 This actually might be true
I love how the SpaceX team is so confident in their design engineers and their fab team that they can make seemingly major changes on the fly. This is like a rapid prototype methodology or agile software development which allows for rapid evolution of the concept. I'm sure we will see many more changes as success builds on continued success.
Video starts. Tim: "We're less than a week away ..." Me: "From the Aerospike engine video?!"
I think another of those "plausible but not really" reasons that 2 wings are preferable to 3, is this: It's known that reentry bow shocks, if detached from the main body, can help protect the vehicle from reentry heating. As you've mentioned, this is why capsules try to have as blunt a windward edge as possible, to reduce reentry heating. Well, in the 3-fin design, the 2 wing roots of the body flaps would have been jutting forward into the stream, and might not have received the full protection of the bow shock. Even worse, they might have generated their own shockwaves that impinge on various parts of the structure, creating localised hotspots leading to burnthrough of the structure. With only 2 wings, the wing roots are situated more further back relative to the airstream and generally fit the contour of the body and the deflected body flaps a lot better. That probably served a lot to simplify thermal protection. Also, not gonna lie, I like how Starship looks now much better than the Tintin version. Sorry retro-sci-fi fans. :(
@Verpal
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I didn't even notice I have only put two fin on my KSP Starship replica attempt, looks like I unconsciously dislike Tintin :D That being said, my manual control skill sucks, three fins will probably lead to more burn up/RUD on pad.
@snuffeldjuret
4 жыл бұрын
I loved the old look, but honestly I kind of like the new look as well!
@jeebusk
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually 4 fins if you count the top ones, there's basically a top-half and a bottom half. can't wait for version 2.0 :)
I'm not sure how comfortable and shock absorbing the landing can be if the fins are doubled as landing gears. Also, like you mentioned, landing legs and navigation fins are huge dependencies. Maybe it's safer to have dedicated landing legs that don't go through the same stress as the fins might? Safety might be a major factor i guess.
@thecheaperthebetter4477
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that the hydraulic controls would have to be much heavier to control the surfaces if they had to carry the extra structural weight to reinforce the fins as legs
@joshr1074
4 жыл бұрын
But then how do you suggest a slower reentry without the use of more fuel that's needed for the final burn. Not trying to argue in fact I halfway agree. I just have trouble seeing a way around that issue
@ScibbieGames
4 жыл бұрын
@@thecheaperthebetter4477 they could've "locked" the fins to take stress off of the hydraulics maybe
@jeebusk
4 жыл бұрын
Good discussion, if the position of landing legs and fins line up then i can see how the mechanism could be enclosed into two fixed fin. If the whole fin needs to move to control reentry then they are likely to need separate structures.
@jeebusk
4 жыл бұрын
Hi@@joshr1074the reentry "burn" can happen anytime before you reach your destination, in the case of small ion thrusters this starts about half way there... kinda change of subject from the parent comment tho
I’ve been told jets are largely computer controlled many times but you are the first person who has actually told me what that means and it only took a couple sentences. Thank you so much you get my subscription
I like how Elon somehow responds to every Post of Tim :D Especially the KSP Vids. Best Buddys ;D
@nickymoloney4218
4 жыл бұрын
That is great, but I don't like the fake part with Elon Musk. Real video is available already. (when they shake hands, but Musk keeps on talking...)
Elon Musk is from the 21st century as imagined in the 1950's.
@codetech5598
4 жыл бұрын
More like the 1930s. In the 1950s, they were imagining flying saucers. The humans in the 1956 sci-fi movie "Forbidden Planet" use a flying saucer, not a fire-spitting rocket.
Thanks Tim. Great video and explanation! I'm glad you are here to help guide others thru this.
Best one yet Tim Dodd. I've watched quite a few of your productions in the last year. This one may be your best effort yet. Well Done Sir.
You've come along way Tim! not gonna lie, I commented some pretty harsh stuff a few years ago when you were fudging/dodging engineering terminology. But now, your knowledge is incredible, and your explanations are detailed yet concise. Keep it visual and keep up the good work!
Ahh yes, the retractable third leg. Also my nickname....lol Also, the dynamics you were referring to and how you can control a falling object with opposing surfaces. This is a knock-on effect of the aerodynamic property referred to as "Shuttlecocking."
Haha I saw he released a video and I thought he finally finished the aerospike engine video!! 😂
@robelw5287
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same and another great video waited for me. I love what he does.
@munmunhazarika5247
4 жыл бұрын
Space x whole Mars thing is all hype in order to get investment.......
@faceplants2
4 жыл бұрын
@@munmunhazarika5247 Sorry this isn't the right channel to throw out accusations and claims without evidence. A profitable orbital vehicle and an upcoming revolutionary change to broadband is how they're going to bring in money. It's fine to be skeptical but a lot of people go full on contrarian with anything Elon is connected to.
@FizzBhaal
4 жыл бұрын
munmun hazarika Ah, which would be the reason SpaceX refuses to sell stocks, even though there are an extreme demand for them? A few of the large chunks of stocks currently externally owned are occasionally sold (in part) by their current owners, and they are always ripped away, even on ridiculous terms. You litteraly see people pitching a "Transparent Investment Vehicule (TIV)", owning stock in another TIV, owning stock in another TIV, 5 layers deep before you get to one which owns the real spacex stock - every single TIV on the way claiming management fees on this - and STILL they get RIPPED away! The markets are *screaming* to get SpaceX, but they refuse to sell in open trade. They could raise 20 billions tomorrow if they wanted without breaking a sweat.
@munmunhazarika5247
4 жыл бұрын
@@FizzBhaal Nasa sent man on moon in 1969 with a budget of 40 billion ie inflation adjusted to 160 billion in today's time...... Abandoned it for its cost.... Now a private , for profit organization venture to Mars ....just makes no sense.... It's a bubble.....
Tim, your knowledge of aerospace engineering has become quite impressive. Keep up the good work.
So many thanks to you for learning more and more, and so be able to understand, then explain very clearly what happens. Plus experinmenting many kinds of things (jumpsuit), and using all useful means to display and share. THANK YOU !
So it bellyflops like a sky diver, but I see Starship soaring gracefully through the air like a penguin.
@snuffeldjuret
4 жыл бұрын
belly flop like a penguin do sound rather fantastic :).
@tonyduncan9852
4 жыл бұрын
That's a great analogy.
@markcors3869
4 жыл бұрын
@@karlwest437 That's a great visual! well done!
@100videosandnosubscribers3
4 жыл бұрын
Lol can't wait to see one painted like a penguin
That was an excellent and really extensive explanation, but then not everyone watching is an actual engineer. Overexplaining is not inherently a bad thing. Great video. Also, for me there is nothing about watching a booster landing that has gotten old -- It's as beautiful as a ballet and still makes me tear up, every time.
@oak4901
4 жыл бұрын
It is a message from humanities future; our eventual expansion into the universe....
1:22 I like how your concept of a nice easy video is a 20 min, well thought out essay on a vehicle still in development
Congrats on the invite to the Boca Tim! You always know the best question to ask Elon! Also super exited to see the aerospike video you’ve put so much hard work and time into! Thanks for being so awesome!
Gosh, you are getting so, so, so good at this Tim!
Having 6 legs adds to redundancy and safety. Imagine if one of the 3 legs failed on landing? Critical to protect crew and cargo along side flight certifications. Although the 3 fin/leg design looks truly amazing, the physics aligns well with the new design. Can't wait to witness this evolution and exploration milestone!
"Finnie, flappy, air breaky things". This is why as someone like me with little book knowledge on this subject, but a deep wide-eyed fascination, you are so approachable and informative. I've been a fan for a while. Thank you. ❤
I enjoyed that. Just the right length for me and liked the use of Kerbal as props for the explanation. Great work Tim and the team 📈🚀⭐️
2 fins or 3 - as long as that thing gets me to the other end of the globe faster than reaching from Brooklyn to JFK/LGA/EWR, I am happy ;-)
@richbyrne
4 жыл бұрын
The engines have only been tested for 185 seconds. The mission to the airport you propose is much more difficult than LEO, requiring hours of extreme low thrust and 1000's of engine restarts.
@masonmtb7
3 жыл бұрын
@@richbyrne no, he is saying that as long as it is faster to get to the other side of the world, than to actually drive to the airport, he would be happy. You misread it
Love your videos. Missed you the last couple of weeks
While its unlucky that you dont upload very often, the work you put into every video is greatly appreciated. Amazing work you do!
Awesome. You're only getting more clear and to the point with every new video, Tim!
Aw, but I loved the three fin/landing leg config. It looked so Tintin. Also, with the fins pulling double duty as landing gear, the Starship would've had a wider base of support.
Spaceship having two or three flaps is not important to me. What blows me away is the applied physics. I can't wait for the presentation.
Great video Tim. The videos are getting really REALLY professional now. How far you have come in such a short time!
Superb as always Tim!
Thanks for your informative video on Starship, Tim. Hope you're beyond excited as we all are on Starship! 😁
I prefer to call them "love handles", thank you very much. :-P
@tuhinmia1967
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to each and every one of you! 🥳💕 Just one week away from the channel's first birthday! 😁 What an awesome community. I love you all, Steven
I don’t know what the final configuration will be, but the retro version does look sooo cool! Keep on keepin’ on. Great show
Dude, you make KZread look good. Never gonna watch TV again so long as great creators like you are around. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I literally just turned on SimpleRockets, about to work on my Starship replica, I was like "hmm I wonder if Tim will release a video about the new design", and the notification literally came up as I clicked on Play god bless
@jamiesmith3396
4 жыл бұрын
DerekSP glad to see sr2 getting some love
Good explanation Tim! What are your thoughts on KSP 2?
Tim, I love your posts. always so insightful and interesting to watch. you're a natural!
I really liked the 3-fin design, but your aero explanations were super clear and so I agree that the 2-fin design will be more stable. And thanks so much for your many exceptional videos. Have fun at Boca!
I can always count on you for any topic space, legend!
When form follows function and compliments styling, then you've got a great design.
Your enthusiasm is infectious. Educational and very interesting.
Great presentation. Can't wait for Saturday!!
As Elon said of the Starship during re-entry - "This is not flying, this is falling, with style"!
Interesting that on the SN8 test flight, on ascent the fins stayed out the whole time. Is this because it was a hop and wasn't going fast enough to reach orbit?
@drojdie6212
3 жыл бұрын
It was for stability
Tim -- your efforts are greatly appreciated by "all" of the KZread 405K "Everyday Astronauts". Your presentations and graphics are OUTSTANDING!
The production quality and information in these videos have stepped up a lot, great work educating and articulating concepts to us 🙌🏽🙌🏽
It’s so amazing that Elon always takes his time to answer to your tweets!!!
What version do I like? I like the version that completes a Successful Flight. Success is a Beautiful Spaceship! (and would make a good name for a future mission)
That was a really helpful and well presented analysis of the apparent design changes to Starship. Thank you.
I love you Tim! Your work is EXCELLENT! 3 find definitely! But two fins practically.
I'll miss the 3 fins starship it looked so cool ! But its ok
@wyattb3138
4 жыл бұрын
FLO, again, there isn’t a solid decision for the final version of Starship. This is a prototype.
@masonmtb7
3 жыл бұрын
@@wyattb3138 well, a year later, and this is the final design pretty much
I think...I really like that I don't need to set aside other interests and hobbies in order to follow along and be entertained by rocket geeks. This is fascinating. Thanks for the upload. -Jake
Great job Tim! Thanks for your contribution.
Hey Tim, I was thinking you'd died making the aerospike vid. Glad you are back. Fantastic video bud. Am now sold on being a patron 🙏
@krystofr1270
4 жыл бұрын
And it's done sir. Keep us informed as always. Good times.
Just curious, what do you do for a living? You have a very good grasp on the aerospace industry and have really good videos. Nice Job.
@ASLUHLUHCE
4 жыл бұрын
This is his living
@hhn2002
4 жыл бұрын
He does a lot of research
@tombratfred3102
4 жыл бұрын
He's a professional KZreadr.
@SuperSMT
4 жыл бұрын
@@ASLUHLUHCE Well, know it is... but what about before KZread?
You do a great job man! I have always "liked" space, but you do such a good job explaining the technical in an interesting way that makes me want to follow space, not just check in every once in a while. (Kerbal does a great job too!)
@-danR
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand the 'tucked-in' thing at _all,_ and he must have mentioned it 20 times at least. Tucked-in... _where?_ He even says it in synchrony with the simulation, which is showing no tucking-in, or untucking-in for that matter.
@volvo09
4 жыл бұрын
@@-danR watch the wings, they "flap" back, moving out or into the atmosphere for more or less drag.
Somehow your videos got even better 10/10 for this one, loved it :D
I just noticed how good that intro is
Accursed aerospikes taking all your time! We've been missing you!
Tim! Thanks for taking a break from the aero spike video to put out this update. We have all missed you’re news videos!
Jaw droppingly good content Tim. You continue to amaze.
Exceptionally good video Tim.
3:50 in a event of a damaged Starship on Mars/Moon and flying it back to earth: Would it not be wiser to rendevouz in earth orbit with a totally intact Starship, transfer passengers and cargo and THEN try to land the damaged one?
@chrisc1140
4 жыл бұрын
If that were to happen, probably yes, depending on the extent and nature of the damage. But even as cheap as Starship is supposed to be to launch, that's still a lot of added cost, and a LOT of added complexity. Still better than risking lives inside the damaged one, but still hardly ideal.
@anthonypelchat
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that they need to slow down when arriving to Earth. And it will likely require more fuel than the ship can carry to slow down without aerobraking.
@agsystems8220
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have enough fuel to get into earth orbit? If your craft is not safe to re-enter in then it is not safe to aerobrake in either. From mars you could probably to a lunar gravity capture, but you are not exactly in LEO after that.
@1_2_die2
4 жыл бұрын
@@agsystems8220 rendezvous with a fresh Starship around the moon maybe.
@avid0g
4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonypelchat Right. Aero-braking is needed to land even from LEO, not possible to -reach- enter any Earth orbit (from Moon, Mars, etc) without aero-braking to dump energy. [If the sea-level Raptors were the only problem, then a ship-to-ship transfer would make sense.]
I like how Elon Musk names his starships using the code name Mk, it reminds me of Iron man
@Kasmuller
3 жыл бұрын
It's sn now, and was when you posted your comment
@crippleddiego9226
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kasmuller it’s S now, and it wasn’t when you posted your comment
@Kasmuller
2 жыл бұрын
@@crippleddiego9226 your point is....?
Great video I had been waiting for your production!!!
I was waiting for your next video! Thanks!
14:42: "as late as possible" *does it at 10km*
@zee_rowe
4 жыл бұрын
we're talking about a lot of inertia, yes? Is it not as late as possible?
Hi tim, cant wait to watch this video. They are always great
You absolutely nailed that landing! :)
all your videos are so great , simple , and i am looking forward for your aerospike video or ' documentary ' !!
Im from the Future and sn9 will start in a few weeks and two fins are amazing
@Dazzle-Delight
3 жыл бұрын
I am also from the future and SN15 has successfully landed and waiting to fly again.
You ought to try to buy a house in Boca China, I hear the real estate market down their is really heating up
@patrick7975
4 жыл бұрын
Brett Thomassen hahaha lol
@cawfeedawg
4 жыл бұрын
wtf is boca China 😣
@UpcycleElectronics
4 жыл бұрын
@@cawfeedawg it's where all the diligent children end up when they dig a hole through the center of the earth. Their leader is so diligent, he dug all the way to Boca China and refused to stop until he digs the rest of the way to Mars. That's going into my bedtime stories list for sure :-)
@2nd3rd1st
4 жыл бұрын
Act fast though, you only got another week before the offer runs out
@terrelshumway427
4 жыл бұрын
Tim has already earned a VIP pass to the private launches as far as I am concerned.
Awesome video, and great explanations! Keep it up!
Two fins for the win! I personally never liked that super retro concept of three. Keep up the amazing coverage.
Who is here after the sn8 launch?
@rhysdinnis3533
Жыл бұрын
I’m here soon before the oft
@FreeSpeechXtremist
Жыл бұрын
Here again after the oft was a great boom was so scared till it cleared the tower NGL!
@Starz_yeep
11 ай бұрын
I’m here after OFT it went boom 💥
@Twinlake2018
9 ай бұрын
Me
@miner1476
Ай бұрын
Me ift3
An Elon cameo??? finally!! 🤯🤯 edit: your editing baited me. well played, sir.
@TheRedbeardpirate
4 жыл бұрын
Got me too!
@MrAnticlimate
4 жыл бұрын
It's the worst/best clickbait I've seen so far.
@jeffreyj.anderson-leemsc197
4 жыл бұрын
Is that a real Elon cameo or a green screen fudge with your video in the background?
Really cool video TD TEDA and really cool audio.
I like the new design. Awesome video Tim! Can't wait to hear about aerospike engines!
spaceXcentric, Scott Manley and Everyday Astronaut the spaceX news trifactor Petition for them to have regular private interviews with Elon, bc they have much better questions compared to mainstream media.
@hippyjoe007
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Jixian an Sabatian.
@abbeb2.0
4 жыл бұрын
What about it? Is growing too
Thanks Tim! Great presentation!!
Another great breakdown. I think the two-fin design looks stellar.
I like the 2 fin version. Pretty much everything about it seems to be better. I think it definitely looks better too. But I think what is most important is what performs the best. And from what I can tell assuming it's implemented correctly. The 2fin version performs better. Unless they find reason for 3 fins. But even if they use 3 fins. It's better to have more landing surface area. Giving you angular and directional stability. On touchdown. Something you don't have with three rigid fins. So landing struts is definitely the way to go. Also he's using the landing struts as a sources of drag. Which does have some flaws. But it seems like an efficient use of available weight and space on board. One device performing two functions. However these are fairly critical systems. And if you lose one you may very well lose both. I guess it's good that they have 8. I would go ahead and even try to put 16 on there. In fact it may very well lower the weight. And increase structural rigidity. Not to mention the added benefit of redundancy and increase stability. Because there is a greater number of landing struts to spread the load. Each individual landing strut can be made from lighter materials. Not to mention the actual size of each landing strut will be physically smaller and take up less individual space and wait. So even though they're would be more individual pieces. It would overall weigh less. And due to the increased number of landing struts. They can apply more physical Force. You might even consider 32. landing struts. Because that would also give you a higher degree of control using them as drag during reentry. And with that kind of redundancy. The issue of having one damaged is mostly nullified.
your tweet really scared me!I thought that was a starship launch! edit:wow 100 likes!
@Cydonius1
4 жыл бұрын
Now if Elon had tweeted that i'd have thought the same :P
@corbin5659
4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@spaceexplorer5481
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you scared of launch ??????
@jorge8596
4 жыл бұрын
@@spaceexplorer5481 he'd be scared of missing it
I haven't been this excited about space since the early 70's as a boy living in Fl!!! Got excited in the 90's when they grabbed Hubble and repaired it, but this is next level sh!t ;-) Looking forward to hearing/seeing your report today!!!
Love your video camera! The video quality is so good!
Two fins for the win. Interesting that it now looks more like New Shepard than Tin Tin.
@donjones4719
4 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy!