Why SpaceX’s Starship will fall like a skydiver and not fly like an airplane

Ғылым және технология

Ever since SpaceX tweeted this photo on September 13th, 2018, a lot of people fear the BFR is slowly turning into the space shuttle. Quoting ever growing wings and a giant heat shield covering the belly of the ship… so how is this any different than the Space Shuttle?
Today we’ll to cover three topics. First, we’ll compare the reentry of the space shuttle to the reentry of the BFS and show how they differ. Then we’ll explain what control surfaces allow the BFS to perform this reentry, and then we’ll compare the thermal protection systems of the Shuttle and the BFS.
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  • @KsNewSpace
    @KsNewSpace5 жыл бұрын

    I'm probably too biased to say this but it's really a great episode! I'm so curious to know what kind of a motor they will develop. They surely need some kind of integrated solution because mounting the engines as I did on the BFS is not so optimal xD (but easier to showcase). They also need some kind of redundancy in case something fails so it would make sense to have many weaks motors rather than one strong. Then you have to think about cooling and powering them and what not. Oh boy, that will be interesting!

  • @shafayasghar5710

    @shafayasghar5710

    5 жыл бұрын

    wow you got pinned

  • @KsNewSpace

    @KsNewSpace

    5 жыл бұрын

    This was not planned though! Very "weaks" -grammar- spelling! xD

  • @shafayasghar5710

    @shafayasghar5710

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh

  • @antoneberhardt7947

    @antoneberhardt7947

    5 жыл бұрын

    i missed the background music:(

  • @eldencw

    @eldencw

    5 жыл бұрын

    On the picaX, is it going to use 'tiles', or is the final layer that is exposed to the atmosphere going to be sprayed on? Can PicaX work as a spray on?

  • @manuelcorrea147
    @manuelcorrea1475 жыл бұрын

    It's the BFS (the Big F#%!king Skydiver)🚀

  • @marcoseduardocastro781

    @marcoseduardocastro781

    5 жыл бұрын

    another meaning for BFS

  • @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    5 жыл бұрын

    Manuel Correa A fat FUDGING skydiver lmao

  • @jacobhunter6891

    @jacobhunter6891

    5 жыл бұрын

    Doomguy would be proud

  • @benmyers1238

    @benmyers1238

    5 жыл бұрын

    BFR - Big F$cking rocket

  • @BlackCharg3r345

    @BlackCharg3r345

    5 жыл бұрын

    i thought it was called = boy friend shuttle lmao

  • @Mr6Sinner
    @Mr6Sinner5 жыл бұрын

    11:17 Its not flying; Its Falling! With style! *smiles in Buzz Lightyear*

  • @elliotttheneko

    @elliotttheneko

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its you again...

  • @elliotttheneko

    @elliotttheneko

    5 жыл бұрын

    The reply god himself

  • @Mr6Sinner

    @Mr6Sinner

    5 жыл бұрын

    Elliott Zinc Hello there

  • @sven518-7

    @sven518-7

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Mr6Sinner general kenobi

  • @falafeldurum2095

    @falafeldurum2095

    4 жыл бұрын

    And the Space Shuttle was _gliding_ ;)

  • @snviper
    @snviper3 жыл бұрын

    Who else is here after the belly flop? (SN8 flight)

  • @buzzmas8068

    @buzzmas8068

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m here before.

  • @lynansheng

    @lynansheng

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm back after the flop; if that counts

  • @AH-wu1vh

    @AH-wu1vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool that is goes exactly the same as the real 12.5 hop

  • @plushigaming1822

    @plushigaming1822

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me

  • @animationspace8550

    @animationspace8550

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who is here after the sn10 landing? (Well... almost..)

  • @janus2059
    @janus20595 жыл бұрын

    I don't care how close it is to the space shuttle, if it gets us to Mars

  • @michaelszczys8316

    @michaelszczys8316

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kinda sounds like he’s saying a Tesla is just another car because it has four wheels. It has heat shields and kinda shaped similar so it’s just another Space Shuttle.

  • @trololoev

    @trololoev

    3 жыл бұрын

    i think only nuclear engine can send us to the Mars

  • @user-xb6fl9ri6g

    @user-xb6fl9ri6g

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't care about Mars, there's asteroids to mine.

  • @paulround8501

    @paulround8501

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-xb6fl9ri6g Mars is crucial to asteroid mining because it is close to the asteroid belt, has reasonably low gravity, has raw materials needed to create rocket fuel and would serve as a base and processing centre before returning the mined minerals and metals back to earth.

  • @MaxCE

    @MaxCE

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trololoev did all the rovers we sent there get there by nuclear rockets?

  • @TheExoplanetsChannel
    @TheExoplanetsChannel5 жыл бұрын

    I must admit.. I'm addicted to this channel

  • @DragonKingGaav

    @DragonKingGaav

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! It's one of my top five favorites!!!!

  • @krakenburger56

    @krakenburger56

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why do I always see your channel?! I also love him too!

  • @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Exoplanets Channel I’m addicted to space..is that a problem with that?

  • @Backyardaerospace69

    @Backyardaerospace69

    5 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @bc4458
    @bc44585 жыл бұрын

    @11:38 *just barely slides right by Kerbal building for a landing* "Good morning everybody, how was work today?" lol put a smile on my face

  • @JuliaC-sp5qk
    @JuliaC-sp5qk4 жыл бұрын

    let's be honest though: the space shuttle, just from an aesthetic standpoint, was one of the best looking spacecraft humans have flown and I don't think spacex will ever be able to top how amazing it looked

  • @Duck.1

    @Duck.1

    Жыл бұрын

    you sure about that?

  • @Joao-ur7ey

    @Joao-ur7ey

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah... personal taste is a really weird and unique thing. For me the Starship design already passed the Shuttle by a mile regarding the aesthetics. Imo the shuttle is just a bland looking airplane that happens to go to space.

  • @trr94001
    @trr940015 жыл бұрын

    It’s closer to the original shuttle designs before the Air Force got involved and demanded massive maneuverability during reentry.

  • @laprepper

    @laprepper

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they thought the Russians would try to shoot it down or something?

  • @jerkyturkey007

    @jerkyturkey007

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are correct that the original space shuttle design parameters changes during r&d, but you also have to understand the limitations of the computer technologies available at the time the shuttle was being developed, it has just recently been possible to do these vertical landings, SpaceX had many failures even with the advancements of the last 3 decades.

  • @robrocksea

    @robrocksea

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jerkyturkey007 They did not have as much computer time to calculate the airflow, stress and needed physical models to perform wind tunnel tests with every non-minor change. slow and expensive.

  • @carlkinder8201

    @carlkinder8201

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@laprepper the Air Force redesign was all about increasing "cross range capability". Civilian cargos are typically launched to the east near the equator to take advantage of the earth's rotation to help fling the cargo into orbit. Civilian orbits don't require much cross range capability, and that's why the shuttle originally didn't have a delta wing when it was first being developed as a purely civilian design. Military recon satellites however are typically launched in South-North polar orbits. This allows them to map a greater area because the earth rotates perpendicular to their orbit. Each orbit allows them to view a new piece of territory, (again because of the earth's rotation). It also presents a problem for the shuttle delivering the payload. He can't simply deorbit and land from a polar orbit because the launch site has moved (again due to earth's rotation). So now you need to wait in repeated orbits until everything lines up in order to make it back to your launch site.... unless you have a high cross range capability. Having a high cross range theoretically allowed the shuttle to put a large hexagon type military recon sat in a polar orbit and then land again at Vandenberg within one orbit for fast mission turnaround.

  • @blueside1999

    @blueside1999

    4 жыл бұрын

    Space shuttle was actually designed before the 70s.

  • @nikosorf4250
    @nikosorf42505 жыл бұрын

    i wish journalist would ask questions like yours

  • @towoawawaboofficial

    @towoawawaboofficial

    5 жыл бұрын

    They have to know what the asking ABOUT 😁😂

  • @aconite72

    @aconite72

    4 жыл бұрын

    The sad part is that newspapers send journalists who do review on juice pressers to interview a guy who build rockets.

  • @danrowley6934

    @danrowley6934

    4 жыл бұрын

    When "journalist" are assigned a story if they've no interest, knowledge they will give be short schriff. In the days way before you were born & about the time I was, if a feel good story for women...say gardening etc. needed coverage a cub reporter was assigned that story. The gal, guy who was wet behind the ears & barely knew their own names & spelling it was difficult as well. Same thing here. One reason papers will be history soon enough. Lucky the Everyday Astronaut has a channel to get out the needed information. At least this fella is interested in this.

  • @burntkat

    @burntkat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Never happen. Journalism is dead.

  • @williamjordan5554

    @williamjordan5554

    4 жыл бұрын

    JournalistS*

  • @Hirosjimma
    @Hirosjimma5 жыл бұрын

    Petition to name those flapper wings BFFs Big 'Falcon' Flappers

  • @sadnessisgood5236

    @sadnessisgood5236

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Fapers*

  • @CountArtha

    @CountArtha

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like "flaperons."

  • @Gibson99

    @Gibson99

    5 жыл бұрын

    flaperon is the proper name for an actual control surface on several different types of aircraft. they're a combination of flap (to lower stall speed) and aileron (pitch/roll)

  • @Hirosjimma

    @Hirosjimma

    5 жыл бұрын

    compromise on Big Falcon Flaperon then? :p

  • @e1123581321345589144

    @e1123581321345589144

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Hirosjimma Faperon :))

  • @RamboVet
    @RamboVet5 жыл бұрын

    I recently discovered you while researching the difference between the Dragon Capsule and Dragon Crew Capsule. I then found your straightforward, yet technical style immersive and it drew me into a rabbit hole of your videos. I'm becoming a subscriber. Thank you so much for your insight.

  • @cliffp.8396
    @cliffp.83965 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is a lot of fun dude, I appreciate your video game illustration most of all because it really brought home the difficulties of landing a rocket.

  • @humperdinger
    @humperdinger5 жыл бұрын

    Elon should give you an interview.

  • @HeliosphanXtal

    @HeliosphanXtal

    5 жыл бұрын

    Together with Scott Manley...and Neil DT ;)

  • @gachidu

    @gachidu

    5 жыл бұрын

    Elon should hired him

  • @m.tariqulislam6522

    @m.tariqulislam6522

    5 жыл бұрын

    A real long interview, with lots of nerdy talks.

  • @hilmartennigkeit8060

    @hilmartennigkeit8060

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly Elon musk is playing in waaaaaay to high of a league, like his schedule is like compressing a week into a day, for his entire life. That man got no time

  • @vayne7556

    @vayne7556

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hilmartennigkeit8060 Like hosting Meme Review

  • @Makex_sweden
    @Makex_sweden5 жыл бұрын

    4:34 I'm a falcon 9!!!!!!! HAHA love it

  • @cristianolomedico9483
    @cristianolomedico94835 жыл бұрын

    LOL man at the "I'm a falcon 9!" cheering I almost laughed me off the chair; thank you sir.

  • @rokuboot
    @rokuboot5 жыл бұрын

    "Good morning, everyone. How's work today?" I'm officially dying. XD

  • @pugs6357

    @pugs6357

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@foxomexra no

  • @orue5499

    @orue5499

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pugs6357 yes

  • @Egemeng.

    @Egemeng.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@orue5499 nah

  • @virginiahansen320
    @virginiahansen3205 жыл бұрын

    I think SpaceX decided to use evaporative cooling on the Starship after Elon watched you using radiators as heatshields in this episode. Everyone knows Elon watches your content religiously!

  • @johnsmith-oh2xo

    @johnsmith-oh2xo

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's funny Elon watching this youtuber lmao....

  • @Phobos_Anomaly

    @Phobos_Anomaly

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnsmith-oh2xo He's actually interviewed Elon a few times.

  • @banaana1234

    @banaana1234

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnsmith-oh2xo And Elon has worn one of Tims shirts, describing it as one of his favorites. He is well aware of this youtube thing.

  • @Daniela-pr7rz

    @Daniela-pr7rz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@banaana1234 Not to mention twitter replies from Elon to Tim's twits.

  • @jacobwiens659

    @jacobwiens659

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@banaana1234 When was this?

  • @rubenbraekman4515
    @rubenbraekman45152 жыл бұрын

    Remember when the super heavy was called the big falcon? Aah, the nostalgia

  • @TheMemeDynamics
    @TheMemeDynamics2 жыл бұрын

    SpaceX's Starship 3 years ago looks soooooooooooo different than to the current Starship

  • @catarmour375
    @catarmour3755 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god yes please call it the planet express!

  • @zefirowy

    @zefirowy

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Elon Musk will look like profesor Hubert Farnsworth in 30 years from now? ;)

  • @DivineOwl

    @DivineOwl

    5 жыл бұрын

    but u have to w8 972 years more

  • @charlesscott1682

    @charlesscott1682

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would be great if he painted it that way!

  • @prismgames

    @prismgames

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is called that way, in fact they call it TITS - the interplanetary transport system

  • @Sin526

    @Sin526

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@zefirowy We'll know if he ever starts beginning his press conferences with: "GOOD news everybody!" 🤣👍🏻

  • @nguyentrinhquanganh1494
    @nguyentrinhquanganh14945 жыл бұрын

    11:38 Imagine that beast of a rocket flying overhead almost crashing into the building you’re standing on.

  • @zuthalsoraniz6764

    @zuthalsoraniz6764

    5 жыл бұрын

    Definitely made someone spill their coffee.

  • @ahaveland

    @ahaveland

    5 жыл бұрын

    Would blow in all the windows and doors too, and either incinerate or at least asphyxiate everyone that couldn't run far enough fast enough. Yep, lots of coffee would be spilled!

  • @chrisc1140

    @chrisc1140

    5 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest, that's just another day at KSC. If anything the only surprising part is that it didn't explode!

  • @tsamuel6224

    @tsamuel6224

    5 жыл бұрын

    First you drop your coffee, then you pee your pants, then you really get scared....

  • @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    @nguyentrinhquanganh1494

    5 жыл бұрын

    Andy Lee Robinson lmao that’s true tho

  • @beenchillin2yill197
    @beenchillin2yill1973 жыл бұрын

    guess what the belly flop maneuver worked on 12/9/20 and it was fantastic.Good job SpaceX

  • @cyborgbob1017
    @cyborgbob10173 жыл бұрын

    11:46 "Sorry, I couldn't find a parking spot"

  • @marchandpetrouchka5702
    @marchandpetrouchka57025 жыл бұрын

    hi from Belgium! When sailing small boats you can change the direction by changing your position on the boat thus changing the drag. It depends on the situation but you can change your speed and/or direction using this properly and it can be really useful. ps: sorry for my poor English and thanks for the video !

  • @CarFreeSegnitz

    @CarFreeSegnitz

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's the concept I have the biggest problem with. A part of me sees the BFS fins as a source of lift rather than control. Can the fins be built strong enough and agile enough to control the re-entry? I bet future iterations of the BFS will ditch the fins in favour of a lifting body and RCS thrusters to control attitude. Whichever route they go the heat shield is going to be a significant challenge. The heat shield is a triple threat: needs to be sturdy enough to put up with re-entry, light enough to not rob the craft of all its capacity, rapidly & cheaply refurbishable.

  • @Hamachingo

    @Hamachingo

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lenard Segnitz You don’t want any lift, that just puts a lot of stress on the vehicle when it’s coming in hot and it doesn’t need to sail around the planet to land. I assume the flappers would be folded up on initial reentry when things are really hot and then gradually deploy. The BFS should be tail heavy with the engines in the back so it should naturally point its nose up while entering the atmosphere.

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lenard Segnitz At no point will it ever be oriented in such a way that it could create lift.

  • @agham101
    @agham1015 жыл бұрын

    "I'm a Falcon 9" - Tim Dodd (Everyday Astronaut) 2018

  • @christianthompson1839

    @christianthompson1839

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @tyrstone3539

    @tyrstone3539

    4 жыл бұрын

    Omg

  • @coochieman1970

    @coochieman1970

    3 жыл бұрын

    69 likes

  • @Shadowmanners
    @Shadowmanners5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure it's designed after futurama's spaceship lol

  • @paulweiterer6630

    @paulweiterer6630

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thought the exact same thing here. I'm pretty sure Elon enjoys some good ol' futurama

  • @nicosmind3

    @nicosmind3

    3 жыл бұрын

    The engine on that ship kept the ship still and moved the universe around it, if memory serves. If Space X designs that, that'd be amazing!!

  • @xShaade
    @xShaade5 жыл бұрын

    Just found this channel a couple of hours ago...proceeded to watch 5 videos back to back. Congratz on a new subscriber! I knew SpaceX was doing some cool things, but I really did not know the future was looking this good for space travel in general. You're doing a great job informing us in an interesting and meaningful way - please keep it up!

  • @good_teanice_house6789

    @good_teanice_house6789

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just subscribed, thanks!

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here! Love this guys videos!

  • @hadorstapa
    @hadorstapa5 жыл бұрын

    That KSP segment was a really helpful visualisation for understanding what’s going on - way better than the one from the actual SpaceX presentation. Nice work.

  • @miroslavmilan

    @miroslavmilan

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Gardiner | True, but it’s because what SpaceX shown wasn’t just a visualization but a real physics simulation.

  • @charlescsmith1213

    @charlescsmith1213

    5 жыл бұрын

    This also isn’t really how it would look either because he had no horizontal velocity and basically fell straight back rather than re enter as you normally would. This is more like if the BFS cancelled out ALL relative horizontal velocity and fell back that way. The kerbal demonstration does a well enough job showing how the winglets work to maneuver the craft though

  • @wyrmh0le

    @wyrmh0le

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@charlescsmith1213 He did a second re-entry, that time from orbit so plenty of horizontal velocity.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think Elon uses KSP to work his ideas.

  • @opforind

    @opforind

    5 жыл бұрын

    My only complaint about the ksp demo was that he didn’t use the aerodynamic visualization to show drag. I haven’t watched the live stream of his rocket build but I hope he used it at least once.

  • @hansyolo9649
    @hansyolo96495 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to see that giant thing that is almost as big as an A380 descent and land on it's fins...ummm I mean air brakes.

  • @theantsaretakingover

    @theantsaretakingover

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hans Yolo you’re a star citizen fan?

  • @hansyolo9649

    @hansyolo9649

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately yes I am. Scamjokes inc?

  • @andyonions7864

    @andyonions7864

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to see something bigger than the shuttle take off without a dirty great external tank and two massive SRBs but still make orbit.

  • @zachburke8906

    @zachburke8906

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hans Yolo your a scam Hans.

  • @istra70

    @istra70

    5 жыл бұрын

    Green screen and illusions can make wonders ....

  • @barrymore87
    @barrymore874 жыл бұрын

    I have only paid real attention to space travel the past month and in that time your channel has become my new past time. it's great

  • @grx70
    @grx703 жыл бұрын

    I think it's so cool how at 5:16 Tim says "This doesn't look right at all (...) This is because I built this entirely around physics", and low and behold, two years later this is basically how BFS evolved into Starship. KSP should be mandatory for all rocket engineers :P I guess it kind of falls into "The best part is no part" philosophy - "If you can't make it work in KSP, then it's too complex" :D

  • @samgu619
    @samgu6195 жыл бұрын

    "I'M A FALCON 9!" I died.

  • @benjaminbrown3939

    @benjaminbrown3939

    3 жыл бұрын

    No you are still alive if you are able to post that joke

  • @jeffkrupke3810
    @jeffkrupke38105 жыл бұрын

    I just moved to SoCal and one of the first things i did was drive to Space X and see the rocket. I was like a child i was so happy. Made me want to put in a app to work there right off the bat. But i would love to meet you on one of your trips here and talk rockets and space. Love what you do and love your videos.

  • @LordFalconsword

    @LordFalconsword

    5 жыл бұрын

    So wish it wasn't in Cali, I hate that state.

  • @phobos2077_

    @phobos2077_

    5 жыл бұрын

    What's wrong with Cali?

  • @LordFalconsword

    @LordFalconsword

    5 жыл бұрын

    Let's see; 1) taxed and regulated a company I worked with out of business. 2) People keep leaving california and moving near me, because they pay too much taxes and the laws in cali are too restrictive, and the first thing they do is start trying to get the government to tax more and pass more laws. 3) I live and do my day job (sci-fi writer) in an RV. I have to literally avoid places like New Jersey, Illinois, and Cali because I carry a couple firearms, and they'd throw me in jail for doing that. I could go on...

  • @jpontheroad

    @jpontheroad

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LordFalconsword I'm Canadian and planing a road trip in California end of january, you making me think that I should totally check this out and if I'm lucky get there on a launch day :)

  • @LordFalconsword

    @LordFalconsword

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jpontheroad Best of luck, I'd like to see a launch at Vandenberg someday. But get out as soon as you're done.

  • @henryrollen481
    @henryrollen4815 жыл бұрын

    Just watched 2 of your vids and loved the content. Subscribed immediately. I LOVE SPACE X and I can't wait to get more info. Thanks for the content and I'll catch you on the flip side of the BFS.

  • @rzmonk76
    @rzmonk765 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the research and time put into this video.

  • @sulljoh1
    @sulljoh15 жыл бұрын

    I love the little 3D animations!

  • @andyonions7864

    @andyonions7864

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kerbal Space Program? It's a PC 'game'...

  • @sokrates297
    @sokrates2975 жыл бұрын

    This episode was super informative. Great work on this one!

  • @Apophis-en9pi
    @Apophis-en9pi3 жыл бұрын

    Space shuttle is like a wingsuit, coming in hot on a glider. The Starship is like a sky diver. controlled free fall. Spacex has proven they can make a reusable booster, but their only experience with heat shields are Cargo and Crew Dragon, and the octoweb if you count that. Not sure if theyre using the same PicaX on starship. If they are, they estimate that will be good for 10 reentries with minimal upkeep. Following Starship development really inspires me. Innovate quickly and don't fear failure. Learn from past mistakes and come out the other side better. Keep up the Great work Tim. I know this video is old, but I sometimes watch them just to brush up on my spacex history. After all they learned things and made changes so why can't I?

  • @MrWaldorfian
    @MrWaldorfian4 жыл бұрын

    things have changed so much in 18 months. the basics of the starship are the same but the details are vastly different now. great video!

  • @OiBeefcake
    @OiBeefcake5 жыл бұрын

    I wondered why i stopped seeing your videos in my sub box. Turns out youtube had unsubbed me from your channel! Great video! Private space flight makes me so excited for the future!

  • @jacobrogers2214

    @jacobrogers2214

    5 жыл бұрын

    Funny, I read your comment and realized the same had happened to me...

  • @jackkevillemedia
    @jackkevillemedia5 жыл бұрын

    As a somewhat fatalistic spaceflight enthusiast, I can't help but feel increasingly anxious about the growing complexity of the Big Falcon Rocket. However, having seen the incredible advancements SpaceX have delivered in a decade, I remain confident.

  • @jacobmine5477
    @jacobmine54775 жыл бұрын

    That was close. Love your staff, you find your way. Keep it up!

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45665 жыл бұрын

    That "Bring-Your-Spacediver-To-Work-Day" landing was SUCH a great one that I'm going to go ahead and believe it was your first and only. Awesome!

  • @mopskopf4218
    @mopskopf42185 жыл бұрын

    One should not forget that the Shuttle was build by the best engineers of its time - it was not a bad system. The problem is that after it flew innovations were very are (like upgrading it to be a more reusable system). As for SpaceX, we have seen that they keep developing their rockets while they are already using them, otherwise we would never have seen a reuseable Falcon 9. So while the BFR might in its early stages suffer some of the problems the Shuttle did, i'm sure they will continue to make it more and more reusable.

  • @ntm4

    @ntm4

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this exactly! The fact that they can make changes (both small and sweeping) in house and without a massive amount of governmental red-tape will be vital.

  • @LordFalconsword

    @LordFalconsword

    5 жыл бұрын

    For a ship that killed 14 astronauts, not bad. Imagine what it would have been in bureaucrats hadn't been involved?

  • @brainmind4070

    @brainmind4070

    5 жыл бұрын

    The space shuttle was a big piece of pork. Furthermore, the Shuttle's position adjacent to the SRBs and the ET made it susceptible to damage from falling insulation and less recoverable in the event of a catastrophic failure. With a "stacked" configuation, crew riding at the front, perhaps even the crew of Challenger could have been saved.

  • @LordFalconsword

    @LordFalconsword

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, the critical failure list that would result in a lost orbiter was astounding.

  • @odysseusrex5908

    @odysseusrex5908

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mopskopf 42 Part of Shuttle's problem, re innovation, was that whenever somebody suggested an upgrade or improvement, there was a significant faction in congress whose attitude was that if Shuttle needed improving, then Shuttle was no good, so let's just shut down the whole program.

  • @argasyargasy2366
    @argasyargasy23665 жыл бұрын

    The BFS is going to be what the Space Shuttle SHOULD! have been but never was.

  • @odysseusrex5908

    @odysseusrex5908

    5 жыл бұрын

    Forty five years of technical advance will do that for you.

  • @jackt6112

    @jackt6112

    4 жыл бұрын

    The AGS is going to be what the BFS SHOULD! have been, but never was.

  • @robrocksea

    @robrocksea

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which one? It was a Jack-Of-All-Trades and Master of None. Crew Transport? NELO? GeoStationary? Trans Lunar/Mars Transport? Millitary Ops? NOAA?, NASA?, Job/Program/Money Maker? (Work was deliberately spread out accross the country.)

  • @jacobwiens659
    @jacobwiens6593 жыл бұрын

    “We parked it by the processing facility” The Research Lab technician who saw the spacecraft outside his window: “Um...”

  • @bboysaolee
    @bboysaolee5 жыл бұрын

    Sneaky title, got me worried until I opened the video haha great work! Thank you!! :)

  • @2AKNOT
    @2AKNOT5 жыл бұрын

    Tim, the width of your knowledge is truly admirable. I love how you can relate different fields and also historical designs in your explanations. Keep up the great work buddy.

  • @tristanadziq13
    @tristanadziq135 жыл бұрын

    This is some amazing stuff tim

  • @americanrebel413
    @americanrebel4135 жыл бұрын

    Awesome presentation! Thank you!

  • @evil17
    @evil175 жыл бұрын

    I love these vids. I remember when I was about 7.5yr old when I saw Man first land on the moon, that’s 50yrs ago now, it was awesome, a day off school to watch it in good ol black n white, then several months later I got to see the landing capsule a short distance from our school, in Murray Bridge, SA. While it was some of the greatest moments and things I have seen in my life, I remember when viewing the capsule, I was somewhat surprised (disappointed maybe?) that I noticed all the control switches where the old black Bakelite type, I guess I was expecting more futuristic compounds of the time and electronics, etc, but still a great achievement. Elon Rules, I love what he is doing in most areas he is working on, Tesla’s, batteries, capacitors , etc, and especially anything to do with space and rocket research. His ideas and how he has put them into action in relatively short times is totally amazing, and putting a Tesla in space orbit has to be Historically the coolest thing for anyone to try and top in my opinion, because we can!

  • @TheAnachronist
    @TheAnachronist5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think comparing it to the Space Shuttle is bad. Space shuttle was super expensive, yes, but technologically a marvel (crazy alloys, pioneering use of composites, first reusable vehicle, staged combustion, Autogenous pressurization, crew configurations with up to 70 people possible with an extra module, etc). BFS is the only thing remotely comparable, a true spiritual successor to Shuttle.

  • @adavidmezei

    @adavidmezei

    5 жыл бұрын

    ^ this

  • @Riceball01

    @Riceball01

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully the BFS will be more than a glorified space taxi and do more than just go up to LEO and back.

  • @PeterB12345

    @PeterB12345

    4 жыл бұрын

    @barbara Corcoran that is true for one particular Russian engine only. The space shuttle's engine is actually one of the most advanced rocket engines ever made, and it's is entirely US designed and built. The small Russian engine can handle amazing temperatures due to a special alloy that was invented just for this engine. After the Soviet Union collapsed a few were found in a warehouse and sold to the US. They are used to this day for smaller satellite rockets. Russia didn't have much luck with the bigger engines and as a result put a bunch of small ones on bigger rockets. Those rockets then crashed because the engines could not all be controlled precisely enough in order to work together to lift the rocket stably.

  • @TheOnlyMiolli
    @TheOnlyMiolli5 жыл бұрын

    Those pop in animations were sweet. Just wanted to say that

  • @nobodynemoq
    @nobodynemoq5 жыл бұрын

    Good work! As usual, great video ;) Thanks!

  • @hamjudo
    @hamjudo3 жыл бұрын

    I watched this excellent video nearly two years after it was published. It adds historical context for understanding the changes over time. The flight profile still looks right. Watching your Kerbal version do its thing without ever using the third fin, graphically demonstrated why it was removed. The choice of electric actuators was only announced in the last two months.

  • @andersonfor2012
    @andersonfor20125 жыл бұрын

    Tim, I need to be awake for work in 5 hours! Why would you do this to me?!

  • @lukapapez

    @lukapapez

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well then you are supposed to wake up right about now.

  • @tibfulv

    @tibfulv

    5 жыл бұрын

    Next time put it in the watch-later queue, and simply view that when you come home the next day.

  • @esmeralda4181
    @esmeralda41815 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Germany and big thanks for your videos! You still make me believe in a good future!

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars20033 жыл бұрын

    It makes sense an near-EMPTY Starship/Booster can use air resistance to bleed off most of the velocity, but the more mass you're carrying the more air resistance you need, and of course more fuel in the end to halt the descent into a controlled landing.

  • @winkipinky
    @winkipinky5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video mate !

  • @MichaelBehrnsMiller
    @MichaelBehrnsMiller5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Tim, this was packed with goodness. All the energy and smarts you put in to boiling down a lot of information into these concise videos is SO RARE and so appreciated. Quality stuff!

  • @sajanavithanapathirana6761
    @sajanavithanapathirana67613 жыл бұрын

    Who's here after Sn10?

  • @Dog_gone_it
    @Dog_gone_it5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video, man. :)

  • @jackyboi8832
    @jackyboi88323 жыл бұрын

    Love all your videos and thanks for keeping me entertained during quarantine

  • @user-zv1we9jb7u
    @user-zv1we9jb7u5 жыл бұрын

    I'm so exited for any foottage of an actual real BFR!

  • @wolf1066
    @wolf10665 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, great flying! I was sure you were going to hit the building for a moment there, but you managed to land without incident. I just hope everyone in that section wore their brown trousers to work that day.

  • @Bpace777
    @Bpace777 Жыл бұрын

    I love hearing you talk about this not knowing that you're talking about yourself!

  • @doitbeforeyoudieful
    @doitbeforeyoudieful5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Good stuff!

  • @carnotricecooker
    @carnotricecooker5 жыл бұрын

    "Control surfaces" would be a better description than "air breaks"

  • @rossh2386
    @rossh23865 жыл бұрын

    God spaceship 2 is terrifying to watch fly, but keep hounding elon for that interview lol

  • @robertunderwood6788
    @robertunderwood67883 жыл бұрын

    Great job on the video. Educational and enjoyable at the same time.

  • @Fastbikkel
    @Fastbikkel4 жыл бұрын

    Great demo with ksp man! I admint i had to get used to you a bit, but im subbed. I do like your style.

  • @timgreller
    @timgreller5 жыл бұрын

    Well you can't fly to mars with the space shuttle...

  • @ShelburneCountry

    @ShelburneCountry

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually they did 'back of a napkin' tests with having an refilled external tank in orbit. Once the shuttle was in orbit, hook up to a new tank and away we go. The math works... the details might be a tiny bit more complex..

  • @destinal_in_reality

    @destinal_in_reality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably not enough atmosphere for it to have landed on mars. I so wish our space program was working on mars the same way apollo tried to get us to the moon, back then. Our world could be so different now.

  • @charlescsmith1213

    @charlescsmith1213

    5 жыл бұрын

    ShelburneCountry) What launch vehicle would have been able to lift a full ET other than the shuttle stack itself? I feel like they would’ve had to design a whole new launcher just to loft the tank lol

  • @ShelburneCountry

    @ShelburneCountry

    5 жыл бұрын

    biggBOSS1991 The plan was to have one of the shuttles 'not' jettison it's ET and instead bring it along for the ride. Once in orbit, they would disconnect and leave it in orbit. Subsequent launches would refill the tank and voila.

  • @ihaveaddr1stickinmypc117

    @ihaveaddr1stickinmypc117

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or can you

  • @buzzybuzz2906
    @buzzybuzz29065 жыл бұрын

    Take a look at sailboat self steering gear, which uses the water going past to amplify the wind vane movement enough to turn the rudder. Maybe the BFS can use the air going past to provide at least some of the force to turn the airbrakes.

  • @JustBob-sw4rf
    @JustBob-sw4rf5 жыл бұрын

    I'm an aerospace engineer who's been working on the space program for decades. Also, I have religiously followed the industry through general media since I was in high school and then both general and professional industry media since I was in college. So, I know good aerospace jounalism when I see it. From what I have seen so far your work is excellent. It's the right blend of enthusiasm and technical knowledge mixed with new media savy. I'll happily recommend your site to any person who wants to have a more detailed understanding of what SpaceX is up to than is delivered by the headline news. I much hope you expand your topics to include all other manned and unmanned space system developments.

  • @personx8009
    @personx80095 жыл бұрын

    I worked in the navy on A4 attack aircraft way back when. A system called "Stab Aug" was added as an afterthought during development (early 50's)because it was discovered the airframe tended to vibrate horizontally at high speeds. So a gyro was added with a hydraulic system attached to the vertically mounted control surface, which worked perfectly. This shake was so fast it manifested itself as a violent vibration when unchecked. The moral of the story is Musk can get all the speed response he needs for his spacecraft through hydraulics, without the need for electric motors.Except to drive the hydraulic pumps of course.

  • @atalazs
    @atalazs4 жыл бұрын

    changing orientation by changing drag: a Paraglider does.

  • @micahreid5553
    @micahreid55535 жыл бұрын

    The BFS is based on a similar original premise as the shuttle, but it has the benefit of years more experience and better technology to make it a unique and different vessel

  • @larsayson
    @larsayson4 жыл бұрын

    Tim: Just let the fins *(!!!AIRBRAKES!!!)* maintain our orientation 😂 AMAZING explanation by the way, this video is so helpful and informative!😎😀

  • @DerKatzeSonne
    @DerKatzeSonne4 жыл бұрын

    Came here to learn about Starship. Actually watched a KSP let's play! :D

  • @rickybuxton8245
    @rickybuxton82455 жыл бұрын

    My biggest question is how do they cover the hinges of the aero brakes with Pica-X? Obviously nothing other than the heat shielding can be exposed but the actual hinge can’t be made from pica-x. So do they overlap sections that move? If so then how do they seal between them? Do they instead design the shape of the body to deflect heat around the hinge, creating a low pressure area to keep the heat low? Is there some other solution instead?

  • @goldenphoenix00001

    @goldenphoenix00001

    5 жыл бұрын

    im kind of worried they are making it more complex than it has to.. Elon saying much of the changes were becouse he didnt like the look of the 2017 model kind of gives me backflashes to the Model X problems. To much new tech in one project just for the sake of theatrics.

  • @stevepirie8130

    @stevepirie8130

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering about that too.

  • @goldenphoenix00001

    @goldenphoenix00001

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well since it is practicly bellyflopping in to the atmosphere i dont think the mechanisms will be far inside the slipstream. also more complexity in the heatshield just adds vulnerability.

  • @johntheux9238

    @johntheux9238

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe if less than one milimeter is exposed to the heat, the heat will dissipate itself?

  • @goldenphoenix00001

    @goldenphoenix00001

    5 жыл бұрын

    @sweinberger yes of course it can work but it just ads to the complexity. And complexity drove up the shuttles cost. One key succes factors of the F9 B5 is the posibility of fast turnaround due to few and simple inspections and that driving down the cost.

  • @brandonhoffman4712
    @brandonhoffman47125 жыл бұрын

    "give me a lever long enough and I can lift the world" a smart guy!

  • @sonicwin04
    @sonicwin045 жыл бұрын

    I watched the whole 20mins without reconizing it😂 good video!

  • @BrianThorstad
    @BrianThorstad5 жыл бұрын

    I love this channel, and just signed up at Patrean to support it.

  • @EverydayAstronaut

    @EverydayAstronaut

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you!!! That really means a lot!!

  • @alexcostache267
    @alexcostache2675 жыл бұрын

    I want to see an episode about rocket fuels and what properties they have , and rocket boosters and engines and how they work .

  • @AvighnaDaruka

    @AvighnaDaruka

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alexandru Costache he already has a vid

  • @Talimyaro
    @Talimyaro5 жыл бұрын

    18:06 It has to be said:... Tintin's rocket ALSO uses the fins as landing legs! ;-) Great video nonetheless!

  • @Kenshiroit

    @Kenshiroit

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I look at the BFS my mind goes to Tintin. Not joking

  • @Nturner822
    @Nturner822 Жыл бұрын

    Love watching your older content Mr SpaceX Astronaut

  • @ARiverSystem
    @ARiverSystem5 жыл бұрын

    :D Your face after you spell out PICA is perfect and priceless

  • @ZagadkaTeg
    @ZagadkaTeg5 жыл бұрын

    The BFS is just a new space shuttle,... in the same way an F-22 is just a P-51 Mustang. Great vid, thanks.

  • @senki0151

    @senki0151

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rc Zagadka no it isnt

  • @davidwebb4904
    @davidwebb49045 жыл бұрын

    I would call them “flaps”or even “flaperons”.

  • @witchofengineering

    @witchofengineering

    5 жыл бұрын

    airbrake + flap + elevator + airleron -> brakeflapetoron

  • @dovikin456

    @dovikin456

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or Winglets?

  • @gusbisbal9803

    @gusbisbal9803

    5 жыл бұрын

    They are not flaperons because flaps are design to increase lift. Ailerons are design as lift surfaces that pitch to produce roll control. These are control surfaces but they produce no life so they are more like Airbrakerons

  • @protercool2854

    @protercool2854

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like the term flapelators

  • @ashtonhartley2662

    @ashtonhartley2662

    5 жыл бұрын

    Brakerons

  • @ukwerna
    @ukwerna5 жыл бұрын

    Wow man, brilliant landing!!

  • @davidblalock9945
    @davidblalock99454 жыл бұрын

    If PICA-X had hay fever, would that make it PICA-CHOO?

  • @AlexSlavenDrums
    @AlexSlavenDrums5 жыл бұрын

    wow i like the new channel logo

  • @seanjones1346
    @seanjones13465 жыл бұрын

    Basically, any craft flying people through space could be a “space shuttle”, the BFR to me looks like it could be classified as the shuttle done right. However, as you said the mechanics of re-entry and landing are completely different. Just the general design has similarities. Using large surface areas to scrub off speed during re-entry just works, plus it requires zero fuel to accomplish. The shuttles main engines only managed to scrub about 1% of the speed off (thanks to a highly intelligent everyday astronaut guy for that info) and the body did the rest, just as the Apollo missions used the capsules entering bottom first to do so. So far the BFR seems to be evolving to take lessons learned from the F9 landings and previous space mission to evolve a craft that will be the most capable space craft ever designed.

  • @drygrahamcracker7804
    @drygrahamcracker78045 жыл бұрын

    At the part where you were talking about spaceships skydiving, I got a COX ad with people skydiving on it ;-;

  • @sirwan176
    @sirwan1765 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Could you cover the trip to Mars and the colonization in detail pls

  • @gabrielrej834
    @gabrielrej8345 жыл бұрын

    You know a space rocket company is innovative if it's rocket design puts most of the KSP-made rockets to shame.

  • @3gunslingers

    @3gunslingers

    5 жыл бұрын

    THIS!

  • @honkhonk8009

    @honkhonk8009

    4 жыл бұрын

    deadass

  • @jacoblyman9441
    @jacoblyman94415 жыл бұрын

    "BFR kind of looks like the Planet Express ship from Futurama" Me: "I like were this is going" "But it looks more like the TWA Moonliner at Disneyland." Me: "Bitchin"

  • @haraldhimmel5687

    @haraldhimmel5687

    4 жыл бұрын

    "It moves space *around* the ship!"

  • @Mahirvora23
    @Mahirvora234 жыл бұрын

    Thank u for the information....... your channel is so fun I loved it

  • @alessandrafogli3635
    @alessandrafogli36355 жыл бұрын

    i definately love this channel

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