You know it’s a TV show when humans are the peaceful ones

@ricky18redblack31

11 ай бұрын

come to think of it... wee got too many soy boys not ready to defend themselves. They tend to run away rather than fight. Then we got the morons who would remove themselves from the cesspool. Compare to the billions of humans.... only a small percentage are known to be destructive.

@tonymontana3873

11 ай бұрын

no lie bro😂💀

@G_zuz

11 ай бұрын

Sayans are way worse than humans, humans in DBZ don't have the power to destroy a world and evolved by fighting. Comparing to them humans are pretty chill

@birdo1180

11 ай бұрын

I think the idea is that Goku was raised by humans and is innocent and good, so humans are generally "good" in DBZ universe.

@Vinzie777

11 ай бұрын

@@birdo1180 Goku’s head was hit when he landed on earth, the reason why he didn’t have memory of his mission to conquer the planet, also the reason why he’s dense.

I also read that humans have more emotions than saiyans so i think that is why they have more potential

@Dixon_Yasz

Жыл бұрын

I think that is what makes Goku so powerful, hes a saiyan that was raised as a human. He learned emotions rather than the never ending saiyan battle lust which Goku uses differently compared to Vegeta.

@MinkSignal

Жыл бұрын

​@@Dixon_Yasztoriyama explained it came down to S cells, positive, peaceful Saiyans have a higher concentration.

@Dixon_Yasz

Жыл бұрын

@mikeminckler3828 yeah like I'm gonna take the word of someone who couldn't even get trunks hair color right 😅 this is just my own headcanon

@Hypanoz

Жыл бұрын

​@@Dixon_Yaszthat was not Toriyama bro, he stopped at Z, but "wrote" the "premise" of arcs

@Thing_of_somes

Жыл бұрын

@@Dixon_Yaszvegeta be like:

The main reason why Goten and Trunks not having tails is that Akira forgot to draw them💀

@Yoursinsareme

2 ай бұрын

Ofcourse they are jst like gohan first gen. Hybrid

@bobthegoblin11

14 күн бұрын

We all remember they got bobbed at birth though.

@EremitaUrbano

13 күн бұрын

Gohan had a tail when he was a kid if I'm not mistaken

@sights_set

12 күн бұрын

@@EremitaUrbanoyeah piccolo cut it off didn’t he

@edgaralexx23

11 күн бұрын

Although that’s true ima give that man the benefit of the doubt and say some half Saiyans had that ability to grow one and some didn’t it’s like a 50/50 chance

I take the invincible explanation and just go by that full sayajin don't have adrenaline

"Naturally, it's a super saiyan bargain sale." - Vegeta

@mustaphadiallo2134

Жыл бұрын

1444A.E. DNS.HII.HOE.UOX.

@caingamin2

Жыл бұрын

​@@mustaphadiallo2134WE GETTING THE ROBOTS WITH THIS ONE 🔥🗣💯

@My_Minecraft_clips.

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@tentaplayz3691

Жыл бұрын

​@@caingamin2😂😂😂

@jrrl_

Жыл бұрын

​@@mustaphadiallo2134WE MAKIN IT OUT THE UFO WITH THIS ONE 😤🔥🗣️

“This leads to them wanting to live a normal life!” *cuts to goten and trunks fighting Hitler’s Nazi Army*

@haddy106

10 ай бұрын

We dont talk about fusion reborn unless were discussing gogeta

@klein2042

9 ай бұрын

@@haddy106Wdym I liked Fusion Reborn

@nkirmath8621

9 ай бұрын

"Normal life having fun as super heroes" this totally checks out, fr though I don't think universe 7 has any form of normality to being a super hero

@KC_Smooth

9 ай бұрын

​@@haddy106Yes we do! That movie was awesome!

@DEADtoRISE08

9 ай бұрын

Well yeah…you have defeat shit brain Nazis to live a normal life

Trunks: I still don't have a signature move.... Goten: Me either....

@rb9882

5 күн бұрын

You kinda slow huh lol burning attack is all Trunks & canon

It's because the kindness that the human side brings allows them to tap into Saiyan powers only available to pure heated individuals. We may be monsters but we're also lovers

@gorge1365

22 күн бұрын

True, but half of the world are Devils, so is 50/50.

@seansean792

13 күн бұрын

Who the fuck is we? Speak for yourself don't rope all of humanity together 😭 A normal person says "this world has fucked up people and amazing people" 😭

@gorge1365

13 күн бұрын

@@seansean792 This World is Cruel.

@madwiggyNLD

13 күн бұрын

but then again there is Goku strongest of them all ... pure blood and does he have hate no he just hit his head

Gotta give Toriyama credit for believing in humanity so much

@321tiempo3

10 ай бұрын

Toriyama never had this in mind

@zackdelarosa14

10 ай бұрын

​@@321tiempo3 after Hashirama and Nagasaki in HIS immediate history by the time he was writing manga. Safe to say he was well entitled to make Dragon Ball far more brutal than actual history was to him 😅 learn more boy

@daaaaaaaavid8998

10 ай бұрын

@@zackdelarosa14Hashirama??

@zackdelarosa14

10 ай бұрын

@@daaaaaaaavid8998 F. That's the first Hokage from Naruto 😂😂😂 you know what I'm keeping it like that now

@daaaaaaaavid8998

10 ай бұрын

@@zackdelarosa14 i couldnt tell if u were talking abt naruto or hiroshima there

"Thanks to the peaceful disposition of Earthlings." Yup. Peaceful. That's us.

@Arcad1010

Жыл бұрын

True true true nothing in our history of any sort of brutality. Yap! Definitely peaceful beings 😏 .

@wiswc

Жыл бұрын

We are so egotistical it's crazy

@tyranis4433

11 ай бұрын

More peaceful than the sayins at least lol

@Arcad1010

11 ай бұрын

@@tyranis4433 come on man… if humans have the same power as saiyans humans would have invaded several worlds by now.

@tyranis4433

11 ай бұрын

The only thing on a sayins mind is combat dude. Humans are not like that

If you think about it, hybrids in the real world often work this way. For example, a liger is both bigger and more powerful than either of it's parents. And because they only exist within zoo or sanctuary settings, they have less of a need to be aggressive since they aren't fighting to survive. Another example is a Pizzly, a polar bear and grizzly hybrid. They take the best attributes from both parents which ends up creating an even more successful offspring. It seems that this is also the case in the Saiyan hybrids of Universe 7.

@GeryonM

17 күн бұрын

The flip-side of that liger is the tigon which is smaller than its parents. Not quite proportionallysmall as the ligeris big but noticeably smaller. Quite odd isn't it?

@kutaoizumi4189

13 күн бұрын

Aren't Prizzly Bears super aggressive?

@FoxFighter-HellBringer

13 күн бұрын

@@kutaoizumi4189 It's hard to say. There's only been one natural born Pizzly found and any other would be born through human intervention. I personally don't know if scientists have data in their personalities.

That's why they say hard work beats talent everytime

Bro talking about peaceful humans when Goku and Vegeta bagged some of the baddest bitches db has

@YouFoundMeSomehow

Жыл бұрын

"peaceful"

@lorionravindradasan8138

Жыл бұрын

Chichi and bulma definitely aint peaceful😅 but saiyans are supposedly attracted to ones like them.

@Demonz2000

Жыл бұрын

@@lorionravindradasan8138 exactly lmao

@OogaBooga1576TH

Жыл бұрын

​@@lorionravindradasan8138he didnt say the women were peaceful, he meant compared to them, and baddest bitch means baddest in every way

@OuterRaine

Жыл бұрын

Neither one bagged 18

Piccolo after watching this video: "🗿you hear that Gohan?" Gohan: 🤓

@Emu_otori_the_real_one3906

10 ай бұрын

Theory Gohan's unwillingness to train and wanting to live a peaceful life is the reason for his immense potential

@Infamous6091

9 ай бұрын

DODGE!!!!!!!!

@Knight_Noir

9 ай бұрын

Gohan is actually really cool tho

@bigzeezy1733

8 ай бұрын

@@Knight_Noir lol I know it's just true tho 😂

@user-ko9hn2nn4h

6 ай бұрын

​@@Knight_Noirband ho jayega dbs Agra gohan ko main character bana Diya log Goku aur Vegeta ke liye dbs dekhte hai

Just be introduced later in the series. Every char gets rubberbanded along with the powercreep

Kind and peaceful ppl like earthlings had me rolling

@fredalifts

Күн бұрын

Lol

“Blonde hair, blue eyes, super strength? I should be recruiting them.”

@Gundam-Fury

Жыл бұрын

The eyes are GREEN! but nice attempt at been a teenage edgelord

@Kill0trocity

Жыл бұрын

@@Gundam-Fury It’s just a quote from hitler from the fusion reborn movie. No need to be hostile.

@superoakwood5513

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gundam-Furyturquoise in the anime, straight up blue in the manga Turquoise is a shade of blue so OP was right

@TheSmar09

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gundam-Furyit's literally the exact quote hitler said in the movie like bruh sit yo mad ass down 🤣

@tommygreenyt

Жыл бұрын

@@Gundam-Fury ah hell naw. they even got the ADL on youtube shorts . cant have shit in 2023 .

Fun fact: Goten and Trunks don’t have tails because Toriyama simply forgot to add them and so everyone just went with it

@victorykingpin3674

2 ай бұрын

Supposedly, drawing tails in the first Dragon Ball was so hated that he simply just cut it off, and now here we are :p

@myopinionsmayoffendyou

2 ай бұрын

For such a great story teller he was pretty poor writer. I heard so many of these I forgot or I couldn't be arsed accounts about him.

@incognit01233

2 ай бұрын

No. He hated drawing tails. And the in story reason is that Gohan is a mutant. Like broly and frieza. With even more potential then both of them. And he's not even hit his growth spurt yet. He takes after his mothers side of the family. He's going to be nearly 7 feet tall by the time End of Z happens.

@OhNo0o0

2 ай бұрын

​@@incognit01233 Who's gonna be 7ft tall?

@incognit01233

2 ай бұрын

@@OhNo0o0 Gohan. He's wearing the glasses like ox king and he's abnormally strong compared to others. So him being tall as hell is going to happen.

"Peaceful disposition of earthlings" 😂😂

“Peaceful nature of humans.” Someone got the wrong information.

When hybrids are made angry, their human side makes them feel angrier resulting in a stronger rage boost. Goku isn't a hybrid but he was raised by a human and has the heart of one as well. That's why he's usually the one who unlocks new transformations before anyone else

@xCallxMExJJx

9 ай бұрын

He's a pure hearted power seeker. It's insane that Gohan is even keeping up. He might as well cash in on Goku being known worldwide which is the obvious choice.

@Subar_Sama

2 ай бұрын

You forget the fact that Goku fell from a cliff, hit his head and fell into a coma when he was a baby, which made his Saiyan aggresive behavior disappear.

@IamHim29999

2 ай бұрын

@Guimerans1992 yeah coz unlike his son Gohan, Kakarot didn't have the advantage of being a human-saiyan hybrid, which only makes it even more difficult for him since he was a already a pure saiyan

@xeliroth

2 ай бұрын

Nah, he unlocks more form first because he's the effing MC lol 😂

@IamHim29999

2 ай бұрын

@@xeliroth I meant in context of the story kid

And fight Hitler. We can't forget about the time they fought Hitler

@fuchainsa

Жыл бұрын

“Hitler”

@ZerMetalFight

Жыл бұрын

😂💀

@silverhetch3383

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t that in a movie? The Movie where Goku SSJ3 finishes of this giant insect villain with a dragon fist?

@FazeRustyNuts

Жыл бұрын

​@@silverhetch3383 you're talking about wrath of the dragon 💀 they fought Hitler is fusion reborn, how do you confuse those 2?

@silverhetch3383

Жыл бұрын

@@FazeRustyNuts because they came back to back in television during a special :D

Bro who invited the funny mustache man for a second at the end

Highly compatible indeed. Even descendants with practically no Saiyan blood at all can still turn SSJ. I can only guess that certain traits are just permanently integrated into the earthling genome.

@Marcustheseer

Ай бұрын

Almost no sayan blood? I bet if you do a dna test they wil have allot,beeing generations down the line doesnt mean less sayan blood thats not how genetics works,every new generation its kind of a roulette of what genes are picked,generations down the line you might even get a legendary hybrid

@superpaytonmars8852

Ай бұрын

@@Marcustheseer I'm referring to generational gaps of 200 years or more.

To be noted that, although hybrid sayians don't have the same violent nature as purebloods, they do tend to get more and more aggressive as they power up. Notice how Beast Gohan seems way colder and more bloodlusted than he normally is. Even going as far as to smile at Cell's giant ball of energy, out of sheer excitement for a strong opponent, just like a pureblood would feel.

@krolloe3153

8 ай бұрын

That’s true n since humans are more emotional once gohan transforms from anger it’s way more intense in the form

@kratosorokai1546

5 ай бұрын

also for the humans the shift in temperament is far greater and that makes them even stronger

@killerhino7505

3 ай бұрын

It wasnt excitement gohans just cocky by nature if you havent picked it up, he got a pretty good ego booster growing up

@padraig-bobotia-maria5176

2 ай бұрын

@@killerhino7505 all saiyans are that way, like goku v freeza.

@mikethompson9213

2 ай бұрын

I’m so glad I wasn’t the only person to notice that detail in the movie. When I saw that I was like yoooo did bro just smile out of excitement? Even after seeing his whole team get bodied?

Real definition of "hardwork always surpasses talent"

@ChronoNinja7

11 ай бұрын

Opposite

@jawstrock2215

11 ай бұрын

@@ChronoNinja7 No because, the kids have more potential, but it's the parent(Goku and Vegeta) who really puts in the hardwork, and thus are always stronger then the kids.

@kamalsknowledge633

10 ай бұрын

“What if Talent Works Hard”

@hilosky

10 ай бұрын

​@@jawstrock2215except gohan easily surpassed goku. He Became SS2 with the same amount of time in the time chamber and able to defat Cell, both goku couldn't do. With a fraction of the experience, training and time as a regular super saiyan

@DrJareld

10 ай бұрын

@@hiloskyyou forget he was surrounded by saiyans growing up that taught how him how to use SSJ. future Gohan is a perfect example of this

I like the idea that it’s like the invincible comic. The viltramite-human hybrids are almost as naturally strong as the full blooded ones, with the human half giving them the bonus of being able to produce adrenaline. This lets them push themselves even further when they go into a rage.

"Peaceful disposition of earthlings"

Not to mention the mothers themselves. Bulma's genes is amazing since she and her father are geniuses. Chi-Chi on the other hand is a world-class martial artist. Mixing their genes with Saiyans would be unbelievable.

@dingleitches

11 ай бұрын

I don't think that those pass through genes

@elayda93

11 ай бұрын

@@dingleitches it is. look it up.

@dingleitches

11 ай бұрын

@@elayda93 I will not look that up

@serendipity5569

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't pass along

@ItsYuhBoyyyy

11 ай бұрын

Saiyan x saiyan would be stronger than saiyan x human martial artist logically speaking

Blud showed a scene featuring the Austrian Painter and thought we wouldn’t notice 💀

@Killowat71

3 ай бұрын

I know. 💀

Sayans, power and endurance, Himans, adaptability and resolve.

Hybrid Vigor is an ACTUAL phenomenon.

Lore friendly version: Since half human sayians more readily accept their emotions, they have more 'S cells' active, which leads to easier access to transformation states

@lolam9878

11 ай бұрын

adding to that saiyans are too dense in term of emotion spectrum unlike humans hence the hybrids feel more deeper pain hence greater and faster power up

There seems to be a common theme in manga/comics that although earthlings/humans are individually weaker than the aliens that show in earth, the genes of humans seems to enhance the pure blood’s abilities through the next Gen. DC and Invincible are known to show these themes. It’s very interesting to see how writers view humanity in the presence of “greater beings”

@dylansylvester4719

Жыл бұрын

So they're a catalyst then

@BigJohn303

Жыл бұрын

Which is ridiculous. Them breeding with a weak race should make the kid weak as shit.

@xPhoenix_

Жыл бұрын

we are the perfect breeding species for aliens in their eyes👀

@stevensiegert

Жыл бұрын

In Devil May Cry being a demon/human hybrid makes you have a greater potential. This concept can be found anywhere. And if I remember correctly: the more human you are the more powerful you can be

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

​@@xPhoenix_ Ayo 🗿

The alien adrenaline meme makes sense now

That's actually really interesting 🤔 It takes the better aspects of Humans and Sayans, effectively making them superior to both. 👀

Saiyans suppress their emotions, yet get HUGE power when they actually allow them to come out. Like Rage, it brought them their first transformations and we've seen countless moments where a Saiyan rages and gets a massive power boost. Humans are more in touch with their emotions, so Hybrids can access more power through rage. It also makes sense with Broly, who arguably has some mental condition like Autism. Unable to control his emotions like normal and it spirals out if control just like his power.

@kribo9272

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Also, it’s entirely possible that hybrid Sayians have a huge secret weapon that pure blooded Sayians don’t, Adrenaline. Adrenaline makes your fear and anger brain centers go haywire. It’s entirely possible that’s one of the reasons why they can transform at such a young age.

@tahrayay1990

Ай бұрын

@@kribo9272: Okay not gonna lie, it makes sense.

@lewistran8372

Ай бұрын

lmao dude called Broly autistic

Imagine being told you have the greatest potential than anyone else and still don't do shit

@LovenArtiste

11 ай бұрын

It kinda makes sense in a way. I wouldn’t be surprised.

@xIcEzZx

11 ай бұрын

Aka gohan

11 ай бұрын

Well, it depends on the greatest potential to do what.

@SirSethery

11 ай бұрын

You mean like most “gifted kids” after they graduate

@seanzadsalamat5167

11 ай бұрын

Beats cell. Saves universe. Doesn’t hang hat on it. Gets smart. Gets untapped. Fights buu off. Ends dbz as the strongest. Goes college. Becomes researcher marries richest girl besides bulma in world. Has child. Fights in universal tournament. Earns Friezas respect. As far as I know the only person in the entire show who has. Gets ssj beast. And currently the strongest right behind goku vegeta and broly. And we all know when and if he wants to He’ll be the strongest. . Goathan

Ox king is gohan's grandpa. People forget he was a mythically powerful human.

"Peaceful disposition of earthlings." ...Suuuure.

"Peaceful Humans" The Red Ribbon Army:

@earth7903

9 ай бұрын

The nazis:

@superdouble8834

9 ай бұрын

the average human conversation with the bar of soap :

@Trojanpige

8 ай бұрын

The average human with social media:

@legendarytronic7774

7 ай бұрын

​@@Trojanpige☠️

@legendarytronic7774

7 ай бұрын

​@@superdouble8834☠️

Goten and trunks were still first generation hybrids. Pan is the only second generation hybrid at this point in time. Trunk and goten just don’t have tails because the creator forgot about them and then explained it as the tails are a recessive feature in the hybrids

@kingades1013

Жыл бұрын

Yh Toryiama can’t even use that explanation because Gohan had a tail and it was important to defeating vegeta. He better come up with a better explanation for all the other first generation hybrids

@tubax926

Жыл бұрын

Yup, theyre first gen hybrids who were by chance born without a tail because *drum roll* thats how genetics work.

@PrettierNPastel

Жыл бұрын

​@@tubax926i mean does that even make sense with the recessive explanation. Its not like humans have a dominant no tail gene. It would better be explained if they said its just 50/50

@kingades1013

Жыл бұрын

@@PrettierNPastel Fr. Also gohan being the only one is still unbe even with that reasonable explanation

@redkingrauri3769

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we know the real reason is Tori just didn't like drawing them so he didn't. Would've made a lot more sense if he said something like if a tail is removed at a certain age it won't grow back or something. Vegeta's never grew back and Goku's stopped after he was 14. It'd make sense of hybrids had a younger cutoff date (no pun intended) since Gohan's stopped growing back after the saiyan arc when he was 5.

Subtitles: *Saiyans* My brain: “SANS?!!”

Bro was that hiter at the last part😮

In genetics, theres also something called Hybrid vigour or Heterosis. This is when an offspring of hybrids exhibits traits greater than both parents. An example of this is Ligers, but theres many more instances where this happens (eg, some large dog species). But its not a common or guaranteed trait, however, between certain species, it is pretty common. Saiyans and Humans in the DBZ universe may have this kind of compatibility.

@Omega-uc7wl

10 ай бұрын

Thats pretty interesting

@afcomics7184

10 ай бұрын

Except aren't Ligers infertile? 😢

@Synkhan

10 ай бұрын

@@afcomics7184 yeeaaap, well, the males are effectively Sterile but the females can still have sickly offspring. Same with Mules, they have low fertility but can breed in rare cases.

@robinthrush9672

10 ай бұрын

@@afcomics7184 Usually. It's not a guarantee. Most mules and hinnies are also infertile, but have the potential to have children.

@afcomics7184

10 ай бұрын

@@robinthrush9672 That's probably for the best. Their coats don't blend well with nature.

I like the theory that the hybrids are more in touch with their emotions and actually value concepts like friends and family. Like the Uchiha, they love hard. But when what they love is taken or harmed they'll fight all the harder to protect what's dear to them.

@Synthwave89

10 ай бұрын

Yes. I also read that hybrids have more S cells because they are more peaceful, that's why they have significantly greater potential and earlier that pure blood Saiyans

@jmiquelmb

9 ай бұрын

That doesn't make much sense either because Goku is a completely functional human, psychologically speaking. He has a fighting craze and sometimes he's a bit of a deadbeat dad but there's humans like this.

@killerhino7505

3 ай бұрын

​@@jmiquelmb and thats because he never had a proper father figure, they either were old perverts or made his life training which he put on gohan, as well as gohan being the strongest on earth, with great power, comes great responsibility

So basically, the indomitable human spirit

"And gotten" like Gotten isn't the only of the kids that WANTS to be taught how to fight more. He's always been about that action lol

My theory has always been that humans have a naturally much wider emotional range than Saiyans do, which allows them to tap into the intense emotions necessary to grow by leaps and bounds, much easier. Saiyans by default seem to only really care about one's individual strength, lacking an innate care for relationships and thus lack an inclination to fight or grow for any purpose other than their own selfishness. We see in the case of Gohan that his power spikes exponentially when he is enraged, but ESPECIALLY when he has been enraged on behalf of somebody else. This isn't as much a Gohan exclusive thing as it used to be as we even see Vegeta do it in Battle of Gods. When Beerus hits Bulma, Vegeta's rage on her behalf and desire to protect his wife causes his power to skyrocket to a point that he surpasses even ssj3 Goku, which should've been a 4x gap at the bare minimum. Saiyan hybrids are just much more in tune with their emotions and thus are able to tap into deeper reserves of power and grow much quicker whenever those emotions are triggered.

@prvtthd401

11 ай бұрын

This makes more sense than the s-cells explanation 😂

@Er8Top1

11 ай бұрын

Yo, rewatch Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Not Kai. The original classic version because you did not make sense what you meant to be exact

beast transformation should have been a manifestation of the hybrid's power if they are pushed to the brink of their anger, sort of how throughout their childhood they have rage boosts here and there and when it gets bad enough it'll manifest into the beast transformation.

@AshVA1

Жыл бұрын

I think it kind of is, but I think its more to do with Elder Kai unlocking his potential, and this form could be an extension to the Ultimate/Mystic.

@pdlev1324

Жыл бұрын

Super hybrid 😂

@turboflare2137

Жыл бұрын

Beast is basically Super Saiyan Rage but using Mystic/Ultimate instead of Super Saiyan

@micejoint132

Жыл бұрын

@@turboflare2137 true, they could just say that beast is the same as trunk's ssj rage except because gohan has his potential unleashed it amplifies it and has a different physical change.

@hikarikibou9880

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t it be because of Chichi’s demon blood ?

Krillin and Android 18: "We, uhh, have no idea..."

“Peaceful disposition of earthlings” *Thousands of years of human wars* Uh.....

I forgot Vegeta said that in the Saiyan Saga. How come later in the Cell Saga, Vegeta was in disbelief about Gohan surpassing Goku, if he was already aware of his potential, due to him being a Saiyan hybrid?

@untitled-person236

Жыл бұрын

Because he didnt know he would grow that much power this early

@o7freedom

Жыл бұрын

because the (back then) whiny brat was a dang kid.

@pdlev1324

Жыл бұрын

Because he thought their higher potential is still comparable to their class So goku is a low class saiyan but he trained his whole life so it's understandable that he's strong But gohan trained only for like 4,5 years so he should still be much weaker no matter if he's a hybrid or not

@zoiker3512

Жыл бұрын

Because he didnt expect gohan to be able to attain a new form, if we compare them base to base, goku was still stronger, but when gohan all of a sudden whipped out a form that doubled his own power, he was in disbelief that a mere child figured out what he couldnt

@LucidStrike

Жыл бұрын

Because Gohan was 9 and Cell seemed unstoppable up to that point. Like, even GOKU had 'quit'. SSJ2 probably also never occured him even his wildest imagination. 🤷🏿‍♂️

They grew up in a time where their parents and enemies had immense fighting power. That alone has a major factor...

Imagine a hybrid with a full blood lust for battle. Unstoppable.

Super long hair Gohan is PEAK ngl.

It might be to do with the aging of humans and saiyans. Humans age faster than saiyans and therefore have more potential the more they age. With saiyans preserving their youth until a very old age probably means it preserves their potential power too. Like how Granolah’s life span got reduced to a few hears because he wanted the potential he would gain after aging. In Granolah’s case, he put his lifespan and potential into a few years.

@dbears1603

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point

@MARSMamba

Жыл бұрын

Great point now that makes sense cuz i swear the simple answer of half saiyan/half human having a greater potential than pure saiyans never made sense with me and i honestly hated it. How gohan could just train for 1yr and already have the power to surpass goku when goku literally trains and pushes his limits every fucking day never made any fucking sense i used to love gohan until he had that wack ass plot armor worse than goku pulling a win out his ass. Love goku, love pre-cell gohan(unpopular ik) and i love your explanation on why hybrid saiyans got all this "potential" to surpass anyone.

@erwannthietart3602

10 ай бұрын

​@@MARSMambayou love pre cell Gohan but not Cell Gohan eventhough the near full year of trianing he got there was litteraly the longest he ever trained prior to Super "off camera" lol.

“have a normal life” Goten constantly shown to have a big interest to train with his dad even to go to King Kai’s world

The more calm an focused you are the easily for you to tap or unlock your full potential, calmness from human race

Having fun as super hero’s saving the city 😮‍💨

They have the best of both worlds, only their lack of the desire to train makes them more susceptible to attacks from stronger individuals who want to take advantage of them. Such as when frieza was revived and gohan could barely manage to even pull a super saiyin transformation. Even though him and his dad trained up to be able to use super saiyin as nonchalantly and passive as breathing.

I think it may have to do with their Human DNA giving these Hybrid Saiyans larger gaps in power that Pure Blooded Saiyans simply don’t possess. Even as powerful as they are capable of becoming, they lack the fighting drive of Pure Blooded Saiyans, so even if they could surpass them, it wouldn’t take long for the Hybrids to focus more on their own lives over the Pure Bloods never ending desire to gain further strength.

@lolam9878

11 ай бұрын

you explained the exact reason why gohan was nerfed

Gohan, Goten and Trunks being peaceful. While whipping a whole army from the face off the earth. 😂

"Peaceful disposition of Earthlings" This must be an alternate Earth where we didn't ravage each other in fire and bloodshed like savages across our ENTIRE history.

It is a phenomenon found throughout nature called Hybrid vigor, also known as heterosis or outbreeding enhancement, is the phenomenon that a hybrid offspring has improved traits, such as growth rate, biomass, stress tolerance, and fertility

@tubax926

Жыл бұрын

So for example europeans breeding with Africans creates a hybrid who has on average higher base stats than a child between Europeans or Africans, right?

@rishav_666

Жыл бұрын

Tf you mean by fertility

@LenoViburnum

Жыл бұрын

​@@rishav_666 Did he stutter?

@Paredinho1

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@rishav_666breeding n1gga d7mb 4ss

@donkylefernandez4680

Жыл бұрын

That isn't always a good thing; It's not that it has improved growth rate, stress tolerance, biomass, and the fertility thing is 50/50 since most hybrids CAN'T BREED. The increased growth rate is because the DNA has no idea what the fuck is going on and growth LIMITERS get destroyed or hidden in the process. Biomass comes from that but it's not always a good thing because their organs CANNOT keep up. Stress Tolerance comes from the fact they're a living cancer

I think it's important to note that even a pure Saiyan can have plenty of fun heroing- that's basically what Goku does. He still absolutely indulges in the natural urge to fight, he just channels it in a productive, helpful direction.

@RichDXtreme247

11 ай бұрын

However the difference is how a hero ACTS, Goku does protect Earth but it’s mostly from the fact that it’s his home and every friend he’s ever made lives on it, however, you won’t find him actively saving the day all the time like a regular superhero that you see in regular fiction. If there’s a challenge to find, you bet your ass he’ll accept it.

@SomeGuy-gc8zs

11 ай бұрын

@@RichDXtreme247 I don't think it would be a great idea for Goku to handle everyday threats. I get the feeling he would cause a lot of collateral by accident.

@RichDXtreme247

11 ай бұрын

@@SomeGuy-gc8zsOf course he wouldn't, it's Goku we're talking about here. He doesn't see himself as a hero, it's just his actions in life affecting everyone elses and lives for the challenge. His kids on the other hand, they're the type that would care about the well being of every lifeform that doesn't deserve suffering. Though Goten is at a lesser extent from his immaturity and chill mindset.

@brokensythe

10 ай бұрын

Goku has brain damage

“Peaceful disposition of earthlings,” …..Yeah, nah.

So Goku Jr, must have already a god-like ki.

Just hope we don't get no more Gohan nerfs after beast Gohan. That was such a dope transformation.

@apazavalen55

10 ай бұрын

I personally didn't like it, it came out of nowhere... And no, "Gohan searching for a new evolution different from the saiyans" doesn't explain Beast, he literally just went mad and without any training surpassed all his prior versions by a ton... At least Orange piccolo makes some sense. Also... THE HAIR...

@felix_patriot

10 ай бұрын

It's not a Gohan nerf for Gohan to act in-character and not train because he doesn't like fighting.

@apazavalen55

10 ай бұрын

@@felix_patriot But if you are gonna let him be, and display that he is not training, just dont gift him a new form. It doesn't make sense at all, and that's why I didn't like Beast. Also, we saw he is totally capable and of both training and doing his life. It's just that he doesn't learn the lesson. One time after another he has to get a reminder that someone might want to destroy everything, and a display of impotence for him to reawaken his power miraculously, or just SURPASS IT ALL. It's repetitive. I just liked Super Hero because of Pan and Piccolo, and the gammas were cool

@mal_kys

10 ай бұрын

​@@apazavalen55yep because ssj3 made sense, ssb made sense, mui made sense, ue made sense, are u new to dragon ball or do you just not understand that hybrid saiyans get power from their emotions mainly anger or rage, so when gohan saw his father figure or uncle getting his ass beat he got angry, it acts as adrenaline does it not?

@apazavalen55

10 ай бұрын

@@mal_kys Ok, let's begin then. 1) SSJ3 still nowadays doesn't make sense, we only saw Gotenks copy it from Goku cause why not? And we just know Goku obtained it by training really hard while being dead (?) We still dont know much abt it 2) I don't need to explain why SSB and MUI make sense, they all had full arcs to explain them. 3) Ultra Ego, we pretty much saw Beerus teach Vegeta (in his own way, ofc) the principles of destruction, and LITERALLY made him his disciple or representative rwpresentative with the earring thingy. But Beast? What do we know about beast? Gohan was furious... and that's it. He just happens to surpass ALL OF HIS PRIOR FORMS OUT OF NOWHERE WITH NO TRAINING, with was supposed to be his CAP, cause his max form i at the time was literally called POTENTIAL UNLEASHED. It is a similiar example with SsjRage. Difference here is that at least Beast is pretty recent. SSRage has gone quite some time and we STILL didn't get any type of answer, just the same as Gohan. Trunks... was enraged. That's it. Compared to the other forms they are pretty lame.

the indomitable human spirit

@walterwhite4398

Жыл бұрын

Vs a green cockroach creation

Hitter:ATTAAAACK! Goten and trunks:”OOO YAY DODGEBALL

The limitless potential of humans and the power of saiyans, yeah very compatible.

The huge potential and the lack of battle lust balance it out well enough.

@Anonymous-411

Жыл бұрын

It's not a balance, it's an imbalance. Gohan turned into a pu$$y that couldn't defend anything, until he started training again. Vegeta always said "wasted potential".

When a mommy human and a daddy saiyan love each other very much- You get ww3

@Deeznutzyamouth

11 ай бұрын

Ss skeet

@erwannthietart3602

10 ай бұрын

The twist being its the mommy human which creates WW3 because she wants daddy saiyan to do the chores in the house. No proper saiyan doesnt respect their wife (well Goku does especially in Super but tbf the second he goes home he is relocated to the radish farm so lol)

Piccolo: you shoukdve kept training STOP STUDYING

“The peaceful disposition of earthlings” wtf

If that's the case, then if they give Goten the good writing, he'll surpass Gohan in no time.

@Arcad1010

Жыл бұрын

Doubt that… only two saiyans has been shown to have multiple power ups in a battle (Broly and gohan). Trunks and goten I don’t think they are going for the same route. They probably give them new forms and fast development but not the rampaging boost like those two.

@tubax926

Жыл бұрын

​@@Arcad1010i dont think goten and trunks are gonna be relevant any time soon

@WestGarbage6

Жыл бұрын

@@tubax926 Yeah, despite being some of the two most interesting characters in the show, since we've seen pretty much none of their potential since Z, they're both the only two main characters to master fusion to such an extent they can do it on a whim with no practice (Minus uhh, SH), but their fusion is also one of the only two characters to ever go super saiyan 3, and yet they've just never been relevant for a single episode of super, they got immediately bodied by Beerus (Though that's no surprise), they played literally no part in the Future Trunks/goku black arc, I don't think they even showed up in the few tournament sagas, and then they got flat-out rejected from going to the tournament of power. But yes, I do like to see Gohan's hair get blow-dried, and piccolo get a sun-tan/j

@tubax926

Жыл бұрын

@@WestGarbage6 Least Gohan and Chadking Piccolo were indeed the transformations of all time

@bunagomes9815

Жыл бұрын

Rock Lee ,Sasuke n entire of Naruto side casts n characters: wats good writing? is that ramen soup 💀

He made it that way only to make Gohan to be new main character but then he is like "screw it let's put Goku back as mc"

Imagine the fans reaction when the next villain Nosnak tries to tell all the Saiyans he’s not letting them eat anymore!

Now give my gang Trunks his shine it’s his turn to crash out!

Humans aren’t complete weaklings. They have some potential to perform incredible feats. Krillen, Yamcha, Tien, and Roshi could blow up the moon before Z. Early Z they could reach a power level over 1000 and go higher than that if they train in weighted clothes or in high gravity. If the vast majority of the human race were to dedicate their time to pushing their limits, they wouldn’t be relative to saiyans, but definitely not a bunch of single-triple digit power levels. If they are inhanced with technology they can be stronger than Super Saiyans. Human potential plus saiyan potential equals a hybrid that can pretty much do anything if they put their minds to it.

Hybrids have more potential because they are more emotional due to human ethics and passion, plus their saiyan parents having achieved immense power through effort helps

@supesisfodder7427

Жыл бұрын

No they don’t

@LouisTLW

Жыл бұрын

Human emotions ain’t that special compared to saiyans emotions/motivation which drives them to constantly train in order to get more powerful, emotions is considered to be a sign of weakness or embarrassment when it comes to fighting and we seen this irl.

@tyranis4433

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@LouisTLWwell emotions are the one thing that drives powerful transformations like super sayin, so it can’t be a weakness

@LouisTLW

11 ай бұрын

@@tyranis4433 not really since vegeta transformed in anger same thing with goku, there was not a single drop of tear on either of them plus gohan should’ve been more powerful than a human but weaker than a full blooded saiyan if we’re talking about human or saiyan anatomy.

@tyranis4433

11 ай бұрын

@@LouisTLW well anger is an emotion tho. Gohans powerful emotions also drove him to achieve ssj 2 and beast transformation

Before gt and super I remember hearing that the more diluted the Saiyan blood was in offspring the less higher levels they could reach. Like Goten never being able to reach level 4 hence why trunks and him would do the fusion dance...

Future Trunks is also the only one who doesn't let his Saiyan pride override his emotions

Straight to the point. They want the story to go on. That’s why they are powerful🤣

@ATLAS-su9wf

2 ай бұрын

Yeah lol iv always thought the hybrid stuff was bullshit. Doesn't make sense and honestly half breeds should not be able to go super saiyan

Peaceful disposition of earthlings lolol

Gohan really transformed to SSJ3 skipping ssj1 with that long hair 😂

I just realized that trunks at one point shouldve had a tail since we saw gohan with one

@brentkeegan4719

Жыл бұрын

They had it removed cause they know exactly what happens if they leave it under a full moon

No the real reason is that Toriyama wants to catch the new gen up with the rest of the z fighters so he gives them massive power boosts so they don’t sit out of the big fights like Yamcha does.

@Dr._Love

10 ай бұрын

Right, even Tien gets screwed. Triclops trains all the time!

It really does make sense when you stop for a second and remember human beings are bizarre by evolutionary standards in the first place.

It also helps that they around levels of power much higher than what their parents were around when they were kids

Goten and trunks are first gen hybreeds. They were drawn without a tail because toriyama forgot the tails. In lore reason could be they were cut off by their parents to fit in more with humans.

@TheGroundedAviator

2 ай бұрын

Didn't want them to go full Kong!

@thomasdeem1245

2 ай бұрын

Yeah i assume they just had their tails hacked off.

I want to see a saiyan hybrid with some species other than earthling.. also how did vegeta know about the hybrid saiyans power if there weren't hybrid saiyans running around out there somewhere? that's a potential storyline toriyama dropped the ball on. would have been a better explanation for tarble too. he could be a hybrid saiyan and that is why he is more gentle and was banished by king vegeta.

@jkaltmix1992

Жыл бұрын

Cheelai and Broly both exist, so who knows what the future may bring...

@animegematria

Жыл бұрын

@@jkaltmix1992 after I made my comment I scrolled down and saw someone mention Cheelai and Broly. I had completely forgotten about them when I made my comment.

Before I had an understanding of it all I was definitely confused! I mean we seen vegeta and goku go through it to become super saiyans but I never once believed trunks and goten trained that hard

Pan bouta be the next god of destruction lol

Pro: You'll have the greatest fighting ability and potential Con: you'll complain about fighting and never want to do it.

They are able to choose that life because pure Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta can afford them that luxury… future Trunks didn’t have that privilege because he had no one besides one-armed Gohan, so them being half saiyan has nothing to do with their less-aggressive demeanours

Them.: We have accepted you into our ranks regardless of your disadvantage. Gohan: what disadvantage are you referring to? Them: your human mother. .... If you know you know.

0:52 is wild💀

In other words The purer heart the stronger you are