Because they thought it was one way, but it was another way

@oldschooldogy316

Жыл бұрын

lol

@domenique2898

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 facts

Ай бұрын

With the lollipop 😅

@tigerleoneinc.9282

Ай бұрын

"Stop saying that!"

@evillamar372

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

They thought Marlo and his crew were just dumb muscle. By the time they found out he wasn't, it was too late. Marlo simply took over by playing the fool so to speak. If they knew Marlo was as calculating as he was, they would have dealt with them. Marlo never showed that side of himself. Sometimes you have to play a sucka to catch a sucka.

Жыл бұрын

No they were because they ruined themselves

@eze333

Жыл бұрын

@Cal Watch Why would they defer to Avon? String was a part of the co-op behind Avon's back. Avon wanted no part of the co-op. That's the dumbest take I've heard. Did you watch the show? lol!

@claudewashington5247

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Marlo and Slim are cut from the same cloth as far as that's concerned

@NateBullock-ow6on

22 күн бұрын

​@@claudewashington5247that makes no sense

They took him as seriously as a 40 degree day.

@Saveyourbs

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@holycitydiddy2026

Жыл бұрын

Who give a fuck about a 40 degree day 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

@9wardslugga

Жыл бұрын

Stringer bell🤣🤣🤣

@robmartin5556

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂facts 💯💯💯💯

@corrae99

Жыл бұрын

Nobody gives a fluck about a 40 degree day

Prop Joe and Stringer had the same weakness, to greater and lesser degrees: Both are not as smart as they think they are. Both over estimated their own abilities, while under estimating everyone else. Both underestimated Avon and Marlo. Joe thought he could control Marlo and use him to bring down Avon without getting his own hands dirty. It didn't work out that way.

@serotoninsyndrome

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a pretty fair argument. They also both represent the "old school's" inability to understand the "new school", which you see in every generation gap. Joe specifically was still stuck in a world that was all but vanished, unfortunately.

@jpmnky

Жыл бұрын

Like Nucky on Boardwalk Empire said, “Dumber than I knew.” And Lucky’s response, “Good words for the headstone.”

@judejoinville9438

Жыл бұрын

They both were betrayed by lesser people

@Loch1210

Жыл бұрын

Prop Joe was smart,his nephew a bitch

@icambridge

Жыл бұрын

Both were playing sly and doing underhanded tricks to get what they want. But Avon, Marlo, etc all survived because they were straight up. They didn't play games. They got arrested which is always going to happen but they didn't get taken out. Stringer was playing dirty tricks going behind Avon's which eventually come back and cost him big time. And Prop Joe, he was always underhanded and sly throughout the show.

I clicked this vid faster than Slim Charles bagged up that 15k for Cutty

@T-roc57

Жыл бұрын

Faster than Bubbles runnin after he stole something!

@dumbassdriversofdenver9113

Жыл бұрын

Or how fast he shot cheese.

@seewhativescene

Жыл бұрын

All that for a few likes? 🙄Smfh how far you done fallen

@thomasromeo-fh6ce

Жыл бұрын

Ah a fellow fan 😢😂😊

@blackambition4024

10 ай бұрын

Faster than Michael killed snoop

I don't agree that the co-op would have lost credibility because of killing Marlo. All the members knew he was a problem and would place his own beefs over co-op aims for peaceful earning. They would get over it, that's exactly what happened when Cheese got killed

@asimhusain8087

Жыл бұрын

Marlo became weak at the end chris got a life sentence snoop got killed, one of his captains got sentenced 6:23

@stefanschleps8758

Жыл бұрын

You are correct.

@BigA678

Жыл бұрын

@@asimhusain8087 Avon in prison with guys all day, Joe String and Omar dead. Marlo free with $10mm if that was JayZ u would say he’s a genius

@Chyeahokay

Жыл бұрын

Lose credibility to who? They the everyone running things in b more…

@haroldbrooks4235

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, that was the only corny thing about The Wire. Marlo was a problem for everyone. Avon should have killed Marlo, Chris & Snoop simultaneously

“If yew happy to dew for me? I’m happy to dew for yew. Yew just dew as yew dew” - Your true and loyal friend, Proposition Joe.

15 years after the last season, the wire still gets talked about and examined. That shows u how great thos show was

I’ve always thought that they greatly underestimated how ruthless Marlo was. Joe and Stringer were no match for him.

The show definitely made Chris and Snoop out to be The Terminator or something. Every other gang has killers too. Just because they are the best muscle, doesn't mean everyone else has NO muscle. Hungry Man's people would have made war in the streets.

@Xainfinen

Жыл бұрын

It's the way they did it that was unorthodox for the streets. Usually gangbangers are looking forward to get some rep from the hit but Chris & Snoop just made people disappear without any pompous story or word to go with it afterward. You have to remember that the people of Marlo's crew just stopped to see some of their fellow members on a weekly basis, simply hearing "he ain't working with us no more" when asking about them. I'm not sure the other crews had it better.

@ndogg20

Жыл бұрын

@@Xainfinen good point. If Omars rep got so blown out of proportion, and this is just one man sometimes with a partner or a small crew, you can just imagine the amount of fear someone like Marlo can generate with his body count. Sure in reality they can go after his crew, but better to play it safe and accept the losses than to try and take down what they perceived as a military like genius.

@samuelmuiruri4704

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the size of your army and war chest. Ple like Joe want money not rep so he avoids war

@jacknoble6668

Жыл бұрын

Chris had military training and taught his soldiers how to shoot, this is a greatly understated advantage for Marlo’s gang.

@LeoSlimTV

Жыл бұрын

Hungry man ain't really have muscle. Nobody in the west has muscle. That was discussed.

As someone that grew up along psychos like Marlo, not the acting part, but actual cold blooded killers. You want to know what happens when someone like that dies? The block or hood celebrates. It's not like in the movies or shows where some guy is terrorizing a whole city, it's just mainly one guy that thinks he can control 2 or 3 blocks, shooting and killing kids that he played in the sand with.

@SoulJAHJustICE

Жыл бұрын

That's deadass very true cool but in the meantime why IS there a celebration ? And the psycho more than half the time isn't taken out by the people he's taken out by his own psychos. Then come the party from the people. First come the jerkoffs in office that print our own money , tell us we broke as a country or there's a defic9t then give that to another country like we don't have ghettos .... ...... and then comes what the people themselves do to each other which ultimately supports their industry. I mean no shade sir but the celebration isn't cool.Bless.

@loronzoprice9899

Жыл бұрын

This is EXACTLY how it is. Like their whole life consists of that one apt complex, that couple of blocks. They make make a lil money in those blocks but their lives don’t amount to anything. A good story. The “respect” and “honor” they claim they live by is an excuse to move how they do. Their principles change to best suit the present circumstance, and they don’t take real accountability for the damage they cause. It may LOOK good if you catch ‘em at the right moment but their lives are sad and they know it. Kinda pitiful when you think about it.

@thomaswil8

Жыл бұрын

@@loronzoprice9899 You want to know what's really real. The Omar character is truer to the real hood celebrity, they are all gay at least Omar's character was out and about with it. In real life it's so hidden, it's men meeting up, leaving there wife or girlfriend after 12 am to smoke a blunt together. Then shot up the block or each other because they don't want there business to get out. Michaels character is the real truth as sad and fuck up as it is. That's why Chris character scene is so powerful that's the only time you actually see him lose control, strike that he wanted to do it.kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ-hlrubfaS8ppc.html

@theirresistableE

Жыл бұрын

@@loronzoprice9899 that's why all the real gangsta rappers are basically emos with aggressive lyrics and guns. fr.

@HxC88NY

6 ай бұрын

🧢🧢🧢

They knew taking Marlo out wouldn’t be enough. They would have to get him, snoop, and Chris which woulda been a tall task. And I think they feared him more than Avon bc Marlo had no code

@jordanflores5687

Жыл бұрын

Not true that's all they had to do was take out marlo if you hit the head then the rest fall in position you catch marlo alone what reason do chris & snoop have for retaliation at that point neither can run the show on their own chris & snoop either skip town with what they got or they offer their services to someone else honestly in the real world marlo doesn't make it as far as he did doin all that foul s*** the same way he said get on our package or tool up is the same way the co-OP coulda said you need to ease up or tool up against all of us matter of fact you don't even give a choice you just hit him

@LeoSlimTV

Жыл бұрын

​@@jordanflores5687 ho had the muscle to take him out besides Avon?

@jordanflores5687

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoSlimTV together I feel like no one is reading the title together your telling me every other organization had zero muscle zero none and no resources or connections to any????

@LeoSlimTV

Жыл бұрын

@Jordan Flores why do you think they wanted Marlo? That's exactly why they wanted him! He had the only Muscle.

@jordanflores5687

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoSlimTV not true they didn't have the muscle he had but they had some muscle you can't have NO muscle and survive in that game c'mon now like I said you hit marlo alone and it's over

You mentioned Avon recognizing Marlo for what he was but how could you completely forget Slim Charles?! Especially in regards to the Co-op dealing with Marlo.

@brandonwilson9101

Жыл бұрын

Slim was the smartest character on the show to me..like a black Tom Hagen from the godfather but willing and ready to bust his gun if need be

@Pudgep215

Жыл бұрын

Slim charles was fa sure the smartest on the show

@devzeppilin

11 ай бұрын

@@calwatch1496 Hell no, Bodie was an example of a good soldier; he’d even crash out unlike Slim (think “THE Clay Davis?!” scene). After Barksdale fell, Bodie stayed Westside as a good soldier would eventually falling to Marlo. How did Slim, one of the smartest, avoid that? He went over East & even under Marlo in the Co-op, played chess.

@donnellm346

9 күн бұрын

​@@brandonwilson9101In no way was Hagen smarter than Vito.

"When i ran my shop, and the Co-Op dropped, I damned sure did something about it". Marlo

@insuchaway

Жыл бұрын

"Take the younglings with you..." - Anakin

@Bigdiego74

Жыл бұрын

@@insuchaway 😂😂😂

I’m pretty sure that: a) The co-op didn’t try to kill Marlo in the beginning because they needed his muscle to solve problems of their own (e.g. the New York dealers), as well as consolidate power on the west side, where they had no influence or marketshare following the death of Stringer and Avon’s imprisonment. This isn’t the colonization of South America we’re talking about. Killing Marlo would not have given the co-op control of Marlo’s muscle or his operation b) The co-op were not idealists, looking to make some kind of point about how much peachier the drug game is without violence. They were thuggish businessmen who were willing to acknowledge that they stood to make more money by refraining from constant war. But this doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have been willing to use violence as an expedient to solve certain problems (as they, in fact, *did* on several occasions) c) Prop Joe was not Avon’s “arch-rival.” They represented different markets (East Side vs West). There is not a single instance in the show where Avon expresses interest in conquering the East Side drug market. Even Marlo is not initially interested in this possibility, until his experience with Joe teaches him that it’s actually an achievable goal. To sum up: Marlo and Avon share the belief that the East Side are “a bunch of bitches,” and neither of them care much for it until Marlo is able to chart a path, through the Greeks, to total domination of both sides I hope this helps?

@Sabz811111

Жыл бұрын

Ok but how come Marlo's supply was never threatened?

@Niwde8411

Жыл бұрын

@@Sabz811111 I want my bread.

@kdizzle901

10 ай бұрын

THIS

Marlo moved different from everyone on the show. He paid attention to every detail.

@sunnohh

Жыл бұрын

Hah no, stacking bodies in empty homes wasn’t detail oriented, Marlo was just ruthless and lucky only to be owned by the next marlo type thug

@D..eOxySs

Жыл бұрын

yet he never noticed omar spying on him multiple times

@KtotheG

Жыл бұрын

​@@sunnohh Knowing that Cheese wasn't satisfied was a very important detail that he paid attention to, which he used to his advantage to topple Prop Joe...

@qdigggs

Жыл бұрын

@@KtotheG also seeing that michael was that one after he didnt accept that money was detailed,the girl avon tried to set him up with he was detailed on that as well

@Bigbudd0045

Жыл бұрын

Marlo was a step away from getting popped. If McNulty hadnt stayed so focused on Avon, Avon would have been able to wipe out Marlo. Slim Charles had his location and they were arming up to go take him out when the Cops rolled in. Marlo was lucky. He wasnt smarter than Avon, Avon had to deal with Stringer's delusions.

Marlo and Chris always the Emperor and Darth Vader of the Wire Saga!

Shows you how street smart Avon was vs everyone else..It's street smarts vs business smarts often in this series that tends to clash.

@vegardgeiner1045

Жыл бұрын

Avon was the only person who saw Marlo for what he was

Жыл бұрын

​@@vegardgeiner1045 yes

@ogolthorp

Жыл бұрын

This was that other thing.

But at the end of the day the one thing Marlo and Avon had in common was they both instilled fear into their community I honestly think Avon would have been an even bigger problem for the co op because he was more smart then Marlo and was always a half a step ahead

@syncking3009

Жыл бұрын

Co-op wanted nothing to do with Avon. After Barksdale went down in season one, stringer got a true taste of power and learning to work with Joe was more in the business direction he wanted to go into. Problem is they regurgitated a bunch of shit they pride themselves in learning to feel they were above the street shit. Undermining where their true wealth came from specially stringer. This mistake ultimately got them both killed. Avon only approved working with Joe out of necessity because his NY connect was taken down by the feds. Avon would have done the same thing Marlo did to the Eastside bitches. Shit he was the main key for Marlo to get access. Altogether the show is God dam masterpiece.

@007Dirtysouth

10 ай бұрын

Marlo was very smart man. He lacked the wisdom to go along with his smarts, but he played prop Joe ass like a fiddle and you know how smart Joe was. And on top of that Marlo was much more ambitious than Avon because Marlo wanted what Avon already had… the crown. So I don’t think Avon would have been much more of a threat.

I'm a former street dude from Chicago. In real life Marlo would have ended up on a t shift. A long with Snoop and Chris. Nobody here would scared of him. It's just a show. He had plot armor 😂

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

Tell it 💯

Choosing between Marlo and Joe is like choosing between a s*** sandwich or strawberry s*** sandwich

I think "You come at the king you best not miss" applies here. As far as they know Marlo disappeared legions of snitches at will. He and his killed Stringer. He and his wounded Omar, then killed him later. None of the Co-Op had the heart or muscle to go up against that for no good reason. Besides, didn't Prop Joe's death get blamed on Omar? Only Slim Charles had any real clue, but he's the ultimate pragmatist. (I truly believe he shot Cheese because he was weak, a liability, likely to flip if/when caught, not out of real revenge for Prop Joe.)

@beautifullyblessed2768

Жыл бұрын

I kinda think it was both but I lean more towards to him being an opportunistic snake

@judejoinville9438

Жыл бұрын

​@@beautifullyblessed2768luck and Chris lol

@DynastyLuminous46

Жыл бұрын

It was also pretty clear at that point that Cheese was in it for Cheese and Cheese only.

@darriuswyche2392

Жыл бұрын

He never wounded Omar. He didn’t really kill stringer.

@darriuswyche2392

Жыл бұрын

Nor did his own kill Omar.

The Co-op never had the overall authority of something like the commission and nobody in the cop op had the balls to to kill Marlo and they were to self serving to unite against Marlo

Simple. Marlo had all the muscle. The Co-Op couldn't even run them NY boys off without Marlo.

@irwinshung809

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Avon was more war ready than the Co-op, and failed in his attempts on Marlo's life. Marlo's hard to kill.

@Brandon-co3he

Жыл бұрын

true dat

@dwcLDN

11 ай бұрын

@@irwinshung809 Haha he didnt fail because Marlo was hard to kill, he was gonna get got but the police had to fuck it up that day. He's just a lucky motherfucker

This is where you ultilize your defacto muscle like Slim. Slim was almost close to wiping out Marlo and some of his key personnel and he was sick with the gun game just like Marlo was. All the Co-Op had to do was delegate the task to Slim and help him get an army and let him get loose.

@MrRyan-wu4jx

Жыл бұрын

If Slim was having trouble finding decent soldiers for Barksdale operations, I’m not sure he’d be too confident in whatever the co op would provide him there.

@syntax2004

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they should outsource Omar himself if the timing was right.

@roryanaughe5217

10 сағат бұрын

​@@syntax2004 you're just reaching at this point 🥱

Because not everyone is a killer. That's life . Damn I love these videos. When marlo meets Avon, best scene in the series!

@RatatRatR

Жыл бұрын

They're a bunch of drug gangsters

A historical example is appropriate here. Prior to WW2, all of Europe could see that Germany wanted war. They expanded its military in violation of the WW1 peace treaty, it invaded disputed territory, it took over Czechoslovakia. They should have put a stop to all that early on. It was not until Germany invaded Poland when they finally acted. By then it was too late.

@KanJonathan

Жыл бұрын

Even more resemble the co-op of PRC into Globalization system, only made them too powerful, and The Wire was written a decade ago.

I really like this channel and The Wire is the greatest show ever. I know of whence I speak. I am a City attorney and I work directly with police most of the time. To say The Wire "follows the drug trade of Baltimore from both the side of the cops looking to take down the drug crews, and the kingpins looking to profit from the system" is a gross understatement of The Wire. It is about the entirety of an American city at the dawn of the 21st century. Yes, the drug crews are part of it. The cops, not only chasing drug crews but all parts of policing, are part of it. Schools are part of it. Politics are part of it. Development - both where it is moving the City forward and where it is lacking - are part of it. As I said I really enjoy this channel - but - the gross understatement of what The Wire is needs to be pointed out.

@eugenekrabs869

Жыл бұрын

Police are part of the problem not the solution. This is capitalism decaying and desperately holding onto it's grip on society. To the detriment of the people at the lowest rung of society.

They was all scared of Marlo cause Marlo crew put in work out of loyalty and was rewarded for it

I think it's always like this. Why doesn't a man that bleeds as any other, not get killed in these situations? You've gave several and there are probably several more. Why didn't Avon get killed, or any of the other main characters for so long, even if they eventually did? I'll say this, Marlo's last scene, with the 2 boys on the corner... it kinda shows you who he is. He got stabbed and tasted the blood and laughed AFTER ducking a head shot. #Seasoned

@icemike1

6 ай бұрын

Most people don't want to go to jail

Because Marlo is a story device. Its why he's impervious and his team is the best and then they arent. The whole point was to show that dynasties like the old Barksdale crews are freying under the drug trade and younger men are more violent. Its the same reason why Omar was killed the way he was - to show that social bonds are fraying further but the drug trade keeps going.

They didn’t kill him because they didn’t have the heart… only Avon and Omar had the heart to go at Marlo

Joe tried to be close Marlo and treat him like a son. Marlo wanted to get close to snake him and he did. All thru the meetings Marlo watched for weakness. Avon was Marlo only threat but they were so weak by the time they clashed.

@HTTC4life1981

5 ай бұрын

Joe tried to kiss up hoping to earn Marlo favor to spare his life only for Marlo to sense fear and weakness Prop actually outsmarted himself right into a box😅

Despite what everyone thinks about Marlo, I rather liked his ending, as it defied viewer expectations. Besides, it can be inferred that he will prob meet the end some time after the final episode- his careless/reckless/ruthless/merciless behaviour will catch up with him. Who knows, perhaps that was what Spiros/The Greek were negotiating with Slim/Rick in the final montage. I expect Marlo would meet a similar fate to others in the game. Have a good day reader :)

@DynastyLuminous46

Жыл бұрын

The thing with Marlo at the end as well, is that he is now entangled in this paradox of on the one hand having a reputation for ruthlessness with the coop, while on the other hand likely having lost his reputation as well because the guys he ran off that corner didn't know him. Marlo would therefore have to start over with both of his most dangerous muscle being dead (Snoop) and in jail (Chris), and the coop at this point knows exactly what kind of player he is. They wouldn't be played by Marlo again and wouldn't let him rise neither.

@gerardsloan1593

Жыл бұрын

@@DynastyLuminous46 as Tony soprano suggested (equally ambiguous ending), end up dead or in the can. Also Marlo was living his own personal hell, he is done, no street cred etc and all alone with no muscle and basically a dead man walking. Have a good day reader.

@MrRjh63

Жыл бұрын

@@DynastyLuminous46 Not only is his most dangerous 2 lieutenants out but he also would have Michael(the new Omar) to worry about if he tried to come up again.

@gerardsloan1593

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRjh63 I am also curious, which of the younger character(s) would inherit Marlo and Stringer legacy? ie Kennard? Donut? Randy? excellent writing in that show and the what ifs are equally as fascinating (if not depressing)..

@MaxPotentialGreatness

Жыл бұрын

Don’t underestimate Marlo , dude was smarter than all them cats in the co - op .

This is pretty common. Look at Stalin. Dude was exiled multiple times. Let out of prisons over and over after failed rebellions. Even Lenin warned about him. But yet he still became the ultimate heartless ruler of the Soviet Union for almost 30 years til he died in 1954 All the red flags were there but he was never taken out

Strings problem was that he thought that he was the smartest nigga in the room, corporately and on the Streets….. Never think that you are intellectually superior than those around you! You can always learn from others.

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

Off top 💯

The reason no one killed Marlo is because the writers needed a new villain

@mikegee6523

Жыл бұрын

Plain and simple lol

@charaznable8072

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, you can try to debate this and make it seem logical and realistic all you want but in the end this is a show and plot armor for main characters exist until they don't.

@bigwilly43729

Жыл бұрын

Just say you don’t get the show.

@darwinfinche9959

Жыл бұрын

@@bigwilly43729 if yo dumbass thinks there was a in world logical reason why 8 to 12 crews couldn't kill Marlo then you must think Atlantis is real

Plot armor lol. Every criminal organization has ruthless muscle. And if they didn’t have the muscle, they’d just put a bag on his head. Hell in real life people will kill you just to say they’re the ones who killed you. Marlo survived because the plot needed him to survive.

@afrosamourai400

Жыл бұрын

Let's say they killed marlo..then what happens? War to replace him? War against his crew? How is that a good thing for people who wanted to avoid attention?

@ddrhazy

Жыл бұрын

@@afrosamourai400 A vacuum in drug trade is a good thing. It means you poach the soldiers and territory. Also, Marlo didn't have any loyal people near him like Avon did who would continue the war after he was assasinated.

@CuriousInquiror

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree--my friends and i actually thought a great backstory would've been that he (and Chris and Snoop) were dishonorably discharged veterans from Afghanistan (which explains why he shows up suddenly out of nowhere in season 3). That would explain why he was able to confidently set himself apart b/c he knows that none of the other gangsters had nothing even remotely comparable to the combat and tactical training him and his crew had

@SupportGamin2024

3 ай бұрын

@@CuriousInquiror marlo and snoop are too young to be veterans,they're only in their 20's

Slim Charles also saw Marlo was making a move.

Chris was the zombie master had them all shook

I think prop joe wasn’t as smart as he thought he was and thought he could control and use Marlo, but (like someone below said) Marlo didn’t have rules like the rest of them. The co-op was all about business and (I feel) by them killing Marlo would have created a vacuum in his territory, thus leading to more violence. I really wish we could have known what each member thought at any given time, because I’m sure some of them wanted him dead simply because they saw the threat of his ambition too be the king., but realized he was too powerful. Just my thoughts

Great vid. Your Wire content is so good.

"Or maybe their guys caught a nickel or went an clean dey ack up" 😂❤❤

They should have gotten rid of him at the first red flag when someone shows you who they are believe it, he was selfish and reckless

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

Right. The problem is that people get themselves in these jams by thinking they can use a difficulty to their advantage but in consequence learn the hard way. It’s better to get the one roach now than to let it go and then you have 100 roaches to deal with later.

I always wondered why. Its simple kill Marlo and wait for the Greeks to come knocking. These are all gangstas, not business men

@boiling_snow_water_

Жыл бұрын

The co-op bleeds green Marlo bleeds red

If The Co-op moved like The Italian-American Mafia. They would’ve taken Marlo OUT. As soon as he made a move on any Co-op members. Marlo had no reason to fear The Co-op. SMH 🤦🏾‍♂️ No real organization.

@MelvinSanford

Жыл бұрын

@@khametrick3888 “Crazy” Joe Gallo played his hand like Marlo. He took out a boss, Joe Colombo. Remember how that worked out? A year later they killed him at his birthday dinner, Umberto’s.

Brilliant video as ever!

Marlo was Walmart amongst Grandpa’s, Sears and JC Penny. The only one that saw Marlo coming was Tall man and Avon (AKA Target). 😆

They didn't take he serious until it was too late to do anything about it.

Amazing how this series is still buzzing through peoples minds

One word kept Marlo alive, CHRIS

You summed it all up, the co-op feared Marlo, Slim Charles warned Prop Joe when he said The Boy Marlo know some shit, and Prop Joe was a complete idiot to attempt to civilize and make an alliance with that man, to even bring him to the co-op plus he was Westside, just like Avon. So the Co-op crumbling was all of Prop Joe's fault, Hungry Man's death Prop Joe's fault, his own death his fault. He should've let Marlo do his own thing, but the Co-op could've killed Marlo and got the connect🤷🏿‍♂️

Marlo soldiers would have took them to a long dragged out war and the money coming in would have slowed down

@RAIDER-sf3wk

Жыл бұрын

@Cal Watch shit happens

There’s an interesting parallel between Marlo and Putin and the new day co op and nato. I liked that you touched on it but it’s a topic that deserves to be fleshed out fully.

@thechurchoflogic1670

Жыл бұрын

Honestly it's not. NATO is barley helping and that's because Ukraine isn't really a NATO member. Ukraine wasn't even an ally to the US before the invasion.

@The_10th_Man

Жыл бұрын

Also Ukraine is not in NATO.

they was cowards all that power they had they could have banded together n took out such a huge threat to them all

Marlo utilized fear.

Someone from within the co-op had to take the initiative and take out Marlo. No one did. Marlo wins

Yes Joe's strategy was to thwart the Barksdales. It was also Avon's aim to help Marlo so he would end up killing Joe out of revenge

Wow… As a native Westside Baltimorean. You cleaned that up exceptionally well. Great job.👍🏾

The Co-Op didn't take him out because the leader was soft. 1st convo they had was about the Co-Op needs him for muscle. Then says nobody messes woth any of them. Lie. Omar tore their asses up. So right there Marlo sensed weakness. The only one that had heart was Slim Charles. Joe, Hungry Man, Fat Face Rick, all soft.

You earned a sub when you referred to prison as the can. Nicely done

Taking out Hungryman, went against what the CO OP was supposed to be for. Stringer wanted reform and Joe Wanted to go by some 'code', but Marlo and the CO OP, represented neither.

The mafia had a similar situation with their commission, against carmine galane, they eventually killed galante.

@afrosamourai400

Жыл бұрын

Why were they afraid of galante?

@taffy9966

Жыл бұрын

@@afrosamourai400 he was an animal seasoned killer, he was opposes to the commission and seen himself as the only boss of all five families and would kil anybody in his way,mainly he had the connect for the heroine supply from Italy, he had the monopoly on the heroine in new york and wasn’t sharing,that was his undoing.

@afrosamourai400

Жыл бұрын

@@taffy9966 do you know how he happened to be the only one with the plug and monopole of heroin? And how could he be stronger than the commission by his own?

@taffy9966

Жыл бұрын

@@afrosamourai400 He was a proper first generation italian with close ties to Sicily where they were bringing in the heroine. And in the mob money is power. He was bringing in stone killers called zips from italy as muscle also.you should type him in to youtube theres a few very good documentaries on him

Excellent analysis. Truly Avon is the only one who recognized Marlo’s ambition. Avon was a master of the game. As he told stringer you’re too soft and not cut out for the game and not smart enough to make it out there.

I still believe the best option would’ve been to aid Avon in taking Marlo out because even though Avon wouldn’t necessarily have joined the co op,he wouldn’t have gone against it either.Prop Joe of all people should’ve known that at least Avon had the highest respect for the game and could be civilized when need be i.e. the east side vs west side b ball game.Avon and Joe had beef yes but at least unlike Marlo,Avon didn’t care about the whole city and taking over he just wanted his corners and territory.

The New Day Co-op is a good example of what happens when an organization has economic cooperation but lacks collective security.

The Eastside was about business. The Westside were the killers. That's why Joe wanted Marlo apart of the CO-OP in my opinion. Killing Marlo would collectively make the business vulnerable to outsiders again. Joe rested on his relationship with the connect. Ain't no loyalty if the next man or woman is offering more. Marlo was indeed offering more. Makes me wonder who Marlo's connect was prior to joining the CO-OP!? Cause what made Joe think that Marlo wouldn't find out about the Greeks. Marlo was already his OWN boss on the WESTSIDE. It was ONLY a matter of time before he cut Joe out the picture.

When you apply logic to how everyone here is cold blooded the only thing protecting Marlo is plot armor. If it weren't for that he would be cadavarous

They chose the wrong horse ... Avon was straight up OG and knew just how to handle Marlo because indeed he had handled many just like him coming up. Instead the Co-Op acted like they were running a corporate board as opposed to a street drug cartel. You reap what you sow ..

Really interesting. Thank you. I have to confess I have often posed this question to myself. One thing I must correct you on, however. In the current war you refer to, neither party is a member of NATO though the invaded party would like to be. The invader claimed their reason for attacking was fear that the other would join NATO.

You know what just dawned on me the co-op where "old fat men" meaning seasoned players in the drug trade and settled, in their minds Marlo would stumble somewhere somehow. Avon was a bit younger and had some fire left in him money was simply a way to keep count. Avon seen a man hell bent on takeover and playing by his own rules.

Overall Prop Joe was the smartest of the three kingpins , his own nephew Cheese sold him out otherwise Marlow would have never been able to kill him!!!! Lets not forget that Prop Joe is the one who actually turned Stringer Omar & Brother Mozune all against eachother which was probably the smartest strategy in the entire show!!!!

You got some things mixed up, in the video you said Marlo was taking Avon corners, but Avon just had the towers or projects and Marlo crew had the corners so when they knocked down the towers Avon crew started expanding out onto Marlo world. Back to the question once Avon was out the picture Marlo really didn’t have to worry about the other crews, they was all older and just tried to stay out the way they was more wholesalers

Just gotta point out that Frankenstein is the scientist, Frankenstein's monster is the dude with bolts in his neck. So saying "like a Frankenstein growing out of control" , doesnt make mucb sense :P Love the channel though mate , probably watched about 10 of your vids so far ❤

Marlo had a monopoly on the Westside drug trade. It would be more lucrative to bring him into the co-op, like Stringer originally wanted. If they take him out they could potentially have another half a dozen guys pop up trying to take Marlo's place. That would lead to turf wars and no money being made because of increased police pressure to reduce crime in those areas.

Because he had the connect. They didnt. Also he benefited them. He had leverage. Make no sense to kill someone they benefit

Wonder if Marlo had some run-around connect - somebody in NYC for instance, that helped him rise up so far as an independent. Nothing like the Greeks, or the Barksdale connect, but a smaller plug outside the sticky reaches of the power players.

Simple put it the co-op was using Diplomacy by appeasement. Marlo only seen it as weakness.

They didn't kill Marlo because the show creators wrote it that way. There's no actual logical reason that would hold up in real life

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯 Common sense. In real life homeboy would’ve been escorted to the exit.

Marlo lives because he had plot armor. That's it.

Avon tried to take Marlo out early on , but was outsmarted by him.

@whitebread940

Жыл бұрын

@Cal Watch I’m talking about when Avon had ol girl try to set him up at the hotel and Chris rolled up and almost took out Avon himself with the shotgun.

@kyordannydelvalle523

Жыл бұрын

​​@@whitebread940hat was a one case thing and if stringer hadn't talked with colvin you can bet marlo would be finished easily xd. Marlo didn't have much against Avon

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

Nope. Peep the jail visit scene between the two.

i rewatch the wire every year and I'm amazed that you still notice things even after multiple viewing When Cheese loses his dog fight theres a close up of the alpha dog the scene then cuts to Marlo, which is a clear i foreshadowing that Marlo will wear the crown

It's always interesting to hear a person that has no idea what the lifestyle is like or about try to explain why things happened the way they did.

@watitduful

7 ай бұрын

How do you know that though lol If you knew anything about the life you’d know that there’s all kinds of people involved. Some of whom, just on appearance even, you’d think knew remotely nothing about the life. The life is one of the most diverse lifestyles out there. Real talk. Not everyone is flashy my man.

“Dont sleep on Marlo, he’s up to some shit here.”

No one wanted Marlo more than Detective Herk 😂😂

@dwcLDN

11 ай бұрын

Who ended up getting him released from jail at the end??

LIKED/SHARED

Do a video on why slim didn’t talk to the Greeks after Joe died. He had to meet them before

Hey I'm no one to tell an artist what to paint but I'd like to see somewhat a comparison of old school crime vs new school grey area crime (big tech) which silicone valley does shine a light on in a comedic way. But I think the characters like Gavin belson, Lorry, Jared, Richard all handle these mega moves. The gangsters and criminals of our new age with selling us addiction and taking away parts of us

@rufusblue8044

Жыл бұрын

@calwatch1496 I guess you don't to realize I'm talking about addiction to tech

Irl, Marlo would have lasted as long as Chris and Snoop

They thought they where smart enough to use him against New York for example. Marlo was only accepting people below him Not anyone above.

It was pretty funny how they acted like he was Michael Corleone when he was talkingbout of hand in those Co Op meetings.

Avon and Marlo was both Westside. There was no way he was going with Prop Job.

Cause Marlo had real Killers under him and they was scared of him.

Why would you create friction in a Co-Op? It’s very obvious why they didn’t band together to form a front against Marlo. It sets a VERY bad precedent when you’re pushing people out of the co-op. Alliances would get everyone paranoid, having the thought in their minds that if Marlo is moved on, were they to be next?

I love your content. Even my father likes your videos.

Who in their perfect mind would go against Chris and snoop? Marlo was famous for making bodies disappear. He might be the brains of the operation, but them two were something else

Old Heads don’t understand that they the only ones following them old rules and the young lions don’t respect the old ways of doing business!

Ukraine is not part of NATO (the possibility of them joining was Russia's raison d'etre for invading in the first place) so that analogy doesn't really work

Spot on. In the beginning Marlo was not a problem for the Coop so there was no incentive to take him out. Marlo in the beginning was only a problem for the Barksdales. Once Avon went to prison and Stringer was murdered, Marlo was too powerful and already apart of the coop. So it would go against COOP rules to use violence to deal with a fellow Coop member.

Because the real gangster of Baltimore, David Simon did not sanction it, he had plans for Marlo.