How much money does Tony Soprano make?
In this episode, we will attempt to determine how much money consistently goes up the ladder to Tony Soprano by first establishing a figure on the bottom level and following it up the chain, where we find out exactly how little the FBI knows about the New Jersey mob. This will cause us to have to take an interesting detour and discuss the structure and composition of the New Jersey family.
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I look forward to these every week!! You do a great job and you're voice works very well with this context. 👊👍
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like it. Thanks for watching!
@salafkilah212
11 ай бұрын
Same
@tigranhakobyan5254
11 ай бұрын
Been wondering about this for a while😂
@hamnchee
10 ай бұрын
I also look forward to you weekly videos. Remember, there's a one video per week minimum.
@tezzingtonsir28
9 ай бұрын
Major crack dealers in the 80s and 90s made more money in a month than the whole soprano crew made in a year.
You forgot to factor in the insane medical bills the couple of black guys regularly inflict on Tony and his organization.
@vitorsamuel777
3 ай бұрын
Wait who? When? Where?
@elcidleon6500
3 ай бұрын
@@vitorsamuel777 - Have you been in NY-NJ area, or no?
@vitorsamuel777
3 ай бұрын
@@elcidleon6500 But who are the couple of black guys inflicting medical bills
@cyborgcrusher6796
3 ай бұрын
@@vitorsamuel777 It's a joke, because when ever a robbery happens or something i.e Eugene smacking little Paulie with a bottle they blame it on black guys
@smally809
Ай бұрын
@@vitorsamuel777they ran that way
6g per week is 318000 per year. Meaning Christopher makes hundreds of thousands per year and still lives in a shitty flat in New Jersey.
@Clembo
11 ай бұрын
He can't afford to wash enough not to. Also he generally doesn't need more than that. He's not married and doesn't have kids.
@PanikGrafik
11 ай бұрын
How many dinners didnt he have to pay for, and how much junk didnt he shoot into his arms
@HxH2011DRA
11 ай бұрын
Drugs
@chrisbarrett8377
11 ай бұрын
Apartments. We call them apartments
@PanikGrafik
11 ай бұрын
@@chrisbarrett8377 who cares what you call them? Oh look, another arrogant seppo
One of the most interesting moments of the entire series was when AJ went to his girlfriend Devon's house for the first time. She and his friends had already hyped him up about being a mob boss' son, asking where the guard dogs were, and hearing Carmella ignorantly brag about a 3000 dollar vase next to the sofa. And then AJ goes to Devon's and sees what real wealth is. Devon's family had art work on the walls probably worth the same value as the Soprano family's West Caldwell house. Her dad, likely in finance, was one of the true masters of the universe. Meanwhile Tony's got guys in his crew shaking down neighborhood landscapers and stealing lawnmowers. Tony actually stressed the financial cost of the beach house he wanted to buy down the shore. Don't get me wrong. Tony did well. Lived in greater financial comfort than his dad's generation. But at the end of the day, he wasn't even close to the massive wealth of some people in the NYC metro area. Being worth about 6 mill in assets sounds about right. Hesh knew what he was talking about.
@kincaidwolf5184
10 ай бұрын
Very good take. There is "money" and there is "MONEY". Tony had no desire to go mainstream or legal. Remember when Eugene asked Tony if he could leave. Tony couldn't understand what he wanted to do. When his cousin Tony B wanted to go legitimate, Tony couldn't see the scam or again understand.
@MonolithMike
10 ай бұрын
Money talks. Wealth whispers.
@jamesteegardner2273
9 ай бұрын
@@MonolithMikeNo truer words have ever been uttered!
@assdaisjdansceic
9 ай бұрын
There's always gonna be someone richer than you lol. You can have made it in life- be a millionaire, have the nicest house, have a holiday home, have nice cars, but there's always gonna be someone way richer, for example, Elon Musk. Comparison is the killer of joy.
@marshall0814
8 ай бұрын
@@assdaisjdansceicyou missed the point.
I don't wanna hear about the economy either
@TeamOfThe80s
10 ай бұрын
2 industries aren’t susceptible to recessions
@RabbiTosmiser
10 ай бұрын
@@twean8335Forget about it
@phillipsena8038
10 ай бұрын
*fucking economy
@johnandrews389
10 ай бұрын
Hey tone did you try the octopus
@lifeisstr4nge
10 ай бұрын
@@johnandrews389 i'm talkin' 'ere
One thing that wasn’t discussed was Tony’s gambling problem and how it significantly effected his finances, especially in the later seasons. He had to borrow money from Hesh, got furious with Carmela about not betting on his game and having her own money, but at the beginning of the show he barely cared about the 40k she took from the bird feeder. Would take a chunk out of his income for sure.
@chrisealdana
11 ай бұрын
Comprehension must not be your strong suit.
@kevinw8276
10 ай бұрын
40k from the bird feeder? You sound demented
@laurenurban3942
10 ай бұрын
Carmela did steal money from Tony that he hid outside the house. I just watched that episode two days ago. Xfinity played the entire series. I last saw it 20 years ago on HBO. She did steal money from him. Also, I might add, Carmela was as nasty as Tony. She also enjoyed subtly threatening people using her husband’s position, in the mob, to satisfy her own needs and wants. I loved how she acted upset and devastated when someone was whacked or simply died, then quickly got over it by going on a vacation, receiving an expensive piece of jewelry or making coffee, and scones. Carmela and Tony were both created in hell.
@carefulcrosser
10 ай бұрын
@@laurenurban3942yes of course she is told to leave tony or Rot and she stayed with him
@owenb8636
10 ай бұрын
This is just about income though. Obviously he wastes money on all sorts of stupid shit
6k a week is insane for a street level soldier. Especially back in the early 2000’s
@justinshalu8034
11 ай бұрын
That’s what I make in 3 months
@Jake-mp1ng
11 ай бұрын
yeah I don’t think he realizes that it was just for during football season it’s 6k( or at least implied with paulie giving him the gambling business) so it more likely be 2-3k during the slow season, especially in the 2000s
@dondajulah4168
11 ай бұрын
no, that is not unrealistic at all. Gotta remember these guys are expected to spend about half that amount just keeping up appearances basically tossing money into a fire pit.
@goodyeoman4534
11 ай бұрын
I thought that. It's not like you could rob a bank every week to meet the 6K fee, as you'd soon get caught. You'd need a regular, steady source of income in order to meet the 6K (312K per year). For Chris, that was the gambling place. I doubt all the other soldiers had a business, casino or lucrative establishment like that.
@utente1489
11 ай бұрын
@@justinshalu8034 Europe?
Saw this and instantly clicked
@pace348
11 ай бұрын
Nobody cares
@danieljohnson2005
11 ай бұрын
Don’t listen to this fanook. I care.
@pace348
11 ай бұрын
@@danieljohnson2005 who you calling a fanook? Take a walk
@ryxnnn6
11 ай бұрын
Me too brotha… me too 😂
@OcrafterCyberAthlete
11 ай бұрын
Same
He also got a bunch of legal businesses - waste management, pork store, Bing, real estate, etc. And a steady salary from Barone sanitation. Must be pretty profitable too.
@admiralsfleet2668
11 ай бұрын
Sil owns the Bing
@roymunson1
11 ай бұрын
The carpenters Union was the goldmine for him.
@frankiegaul8261
11 ай бұрын
The New Jersey dental association benefit manager 🤣🤌
@mikedawolf95
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, but he did lose the waste management company and I don’t think the pork store or real estate bought in as lot?
@ryanc9888
11 ай бұрын
He also had a 3 million dollar home, and according to Hesh Tony’s boat was worth 3.2 million without any resale value lol.
Ok but how much does Furio make? Considering he gets an extra $1000 on every pick up he does.
@alfagamaa
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@chainsaw2950
3 ай бұрын
Good one! 👏
David chase answered the question of tony’s net worth being $5-6m but added that the figure changes often because of Tony’s gambling. He would be far richer if he never gambled, but instead is often far poorer. There was for example that entire storyline toward the end where Hesh thought tony really might whack him over $200k. Either way I think the idea of Tony earning $5-6m per year passively and millions more through grifts is overly generous. It’s probably a lot less than that. Or he’s seriously gambling away millions a year.
@adstaxman7877
11 ай бұрын
Not much for the level of risk he has to take & the stress he endures
@amerikhan8507
11 ай бұрын
Didn't Hesh say that Tony was worth $600k at best?
@nybiggs
11 ай бұрын
@@amerikhan8507 I went back and looked at the clip you're talking about. He says Tony is worth "under 6". Pretty sure he means under $6m. His house alone was easily over $1m
@lordorettyflackojoebean7873
11 ай бұрын
Net worth doesn’t mean per year. Net worth is all assets combined. His net worth being 5-6 kill each is perfectly reasonable if you think he makes less than a million a year.
@nybiggs
11 ай бұрын
@@lordorettyflackojoebean7873 Did you watch this video? OP think's Tony is making like $5-6m passive and millions more through construction, not counting his own heists.
Family? They’re a glorified crew!
@HxH2011DRA
11 ай бұрын
LMFAOOOO
@theonlywestfree
11 ай бұрын
He's out of line but he's also correct.
thank you for this. I was looking for something like this as Tony's money seems really fluctuating over the series
I think this was one of my favorite videos from you ever, I’ve always rack my brain trying to imagine how much money Tony soprano actually makes. One thing you did forget, was about Baronne sanitation. I always figured that was actually where the majority of his money came from, especially the hissy fit he threw when New York bought him out.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Oh no doubt. When I started making this video I was originally going to try to include all his legit business but that was going to make the episode very long, so I decided to stick to just what comes up the ladder illegally. Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@brentfarvors192
11 ай бұрын
He wasn't mad about the income, as much as he was about the legitimate tax returns, and insurance plan. If anything, he "broke even", with the trash, because Paulie was on the payroll too. Soumded more like he paid Barone to keep him on the payroll...Same with the construction contracts for other soldiers; They knew by then the gov't would come after tax fraud more than anything else; Meaning they were limited to the types of property they could own. Which is why they splurged on accessories instead of tangible property/goods...Ex: Jr Soprano; Had a basic(for the time), 3-4 bedroom house, and no other real property to speak of...Being "the boss", it would be the first thing the gov't looked into...Tony had about the most he could without raising suspicions. Bet he only kept enough in a bank account to cover bills for the next month. Car note, house note, utilities, and insurance; Everything else was paid for in cash/favors...
@brentfarvors192
11 ай бұрын
"Barone", was his $ launderer; He would cycle dirty $ in (under fake accounts receivable); Then, pay himself/Paulie back in a taxable salary to thr IRS. That way, when audited, he could say "here is what I make, and this is all I have to show for it..." LoL; Prob worked out on paper the gov't owed HIM $$$...
@opaljk4835
11 ай бұрын
@@brentfarvors192he did raise suspicions. Everyone knew who he was and what he did
@aaronl5072
11 ай бұрын
They provided his insurance and he needed them for tax return purposes. Main needs for it..
Yeah but what the capos are kicking up to this man is a disgrace. Frankly im depressed and ashamed
Wow. That was really impressive and well thought-out. Meticulously broken down into numbers. Good narration. Very impressive overall. I am subbing.
This has been a point of contention among my family for years! My dad had the theory that each of the made guys only made ~200k a year and only soldiers and ralphie were real earners, the rest were just kicking up the earnings from their crews, this would make Tony's cut much smaller than your estimate but I think your methodology is the best way to make an educated guess based on the clues we get in the show.
@SingaporeFriedrice
11 ай бұрын
Tony's cut was definitely smaller. These guys are all crooks. They weren't honest with what they gave Tony.
@MaximillianJ
11 ай бұрын
200k? Paulie drops 5k at Vesuvio's every episode edit: also, remember the fair fundraiser episode for the church where I think Bobby's kid gets hurt on a ride with Janice. Paulie donated 40k to the fair's operational costs. I don't think he would so willingly give a quarter of his yearly take home to the church.
@jackolini
11 ай бұрын
@@MaximillianJ The Green Grove Retirement Home for his mother was like $9K a month and Tony asked Paulie if he would be able to afford it. Trust me, these numbers are all inflated. No way does Tony make $5M a year. It's more likely someone like Paulie makes $200K-$300K a year, while Tony might bring in a million.
@matthiasblum6555
11 ай бұрын
@@jackolini Yeah, that's what I thought also, if the depiction of the house and all the other amenities is realistic, and I guess it is, 1 million a year is far more in the ballpark. 5 million would make him over 100 million in 20 years, probably from all the side hustles far more than that, impossible to hide that much money, 20 million is easier, add the money Tony and Carmela are hiding everywhere in the house, would also be by far higher amounts. If you look at the mob bosses in New York I think only Gotti was really rich, the other ones tried to hide it more and had probably less. 1-2 million a year is realistic.
@michaelhatfield3430
11 ай бұрын
@@matthiasblum6555True but remember Tony is a degenerate gambler. Remember the episode where Hesh is talking about what Tony was worth and it was only about 6million including his house. The guy was shocked because he thought the Boss of a Family should be worth more but Tony's gambling and other vices cost him a majority of his income
Got my notification earlier, just got home from work. Now I get to relax and finally watch this!
An impressive, thorough and thoughtful analysis. Thank you.
Great breakdown! I always wondered about this. Nicely done!
I don’t think Sil was expected to kickup any money to Tony after he became consigliere.The only time Sil kicked up to Tony in the show was in S4 as a way of apologizing to Tony after undermining him(implying it’s not something he does regularly.) Tony’s co-ownership of the Bing would also probably be considered tribute enough.
@22noobtube
11 ай бұрын
Silvio ran the Bing on Tony’s behalf (payroll, bills, usual management crap) and although it’s not explicitly stated in the show , also ran some sort of prostitution ring out of there with the girls which Tony would be entitled to a piece of.
@kingmob2716
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Silvio kicking up wouldn't make much sense. Silvio didn't have a crew of soldiers under him to make him cash, so he was earning his money by himself. He basically had the income of a soldier. I don't think Silvio would take the job of number two with all the added risks if there wasn't the added bonus of being exempt from being taxed.
@samwise141
3 ай бұрын
It doesn't make sense for Silvio to kick up because his main job as consigliere is to advise Tony. He's not your traditional soldier or made guy
A few things: Christopher was running the betting parlor, so his $6k probably reflects that. Tony/the mob also have work related expenses, like keeping lawyers on retainer, paying for widows (as little as he can manage lol), paying for money laundering services, paying bribes, paying off Uncle Junior, and paying for non-earning employees like drivers, hit men from Italy, etc. I would say the best way to estimate what he was making is to back into it from his lifestyle. By the end he is probably spending a few hundred k a year on gambling, another couple hundred on Carmela, 100k between supporting AJ and Meadow, 20k in property taxes, a few hundred k on trips, charities, cars, renovations, and so on... based on his money worries and how annoyed he got about Carmela's spending and spec house, I would estimate he was saving
@zuja666
9 ай бұрын
Good estimate. Plus, I can't remember exactly but when Johnny Sack got arrested they went over his net worth as he was on trial so it could be comparable to Tony.
@illberightback5015
4 ай бұрын
@@zuja666his net was 5 million
I like how you calculate it, though I disagree on thematic grounds. The fact that other people comment on Tony's house being big* but not 'ultra wealthy' rich makes him seem like he should be getting upper-middle class or lower upper-class income. We see how the others in the crew live; they don't seem to be making that amount of money. Christopher can barely pay for meals when Paulie wants to humiliate him in the latter seasons, or pay for shoes for Adriana. The amount they make should be much lower, despite what is being said that they make.
@timb4248
11 ай бұрын
I agree. Tony lives like a doctor, not a movie star. I'd guess he makes mid 6 figures considering how he lives and how he whines about spending money on AJ's hospital stay and the nursing home for his mother.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
True, but that house has to be bought on what his claimed income is, which is much lower than what he actually makes. Unfortunately for most of these guys, they spend it as soon as they get it so they are often cash strapped. Any thoughts on family structure? Thanks for watching!
@The.Youtuber.with.no.Name.
11 ай бұрын
@@timb4248 mid 6 figures makes sense with how Tony kept getting into gambling debts in the later part of the season. Though as Bully argued, they keep spending it immediately. Though, my perspective is that it's rather difficult to spend a couple dozen thousand a week non-stop. The portrayal that the Sopranos wants to convey is that being in the mob is a cutthroat business where a few make a decent amount of money with low effort work by exploiting others (if you have the personality matrix to be that sort of person), but it's not as lucrative as other avenues in life.
@HxH2011DRA
11 ай бұрын
Lol we will never stop running into each other it seems
@aloneinthedark99
11 ай бұрын
Chris didn't want to drop like 2 grand on a casual meal. Even if you make good money that's a shit load.
This vid is so well done and I got nothin but respect in how ya laid it out.
Definitely earned a sub! Great video. I love the analysis
I just wanted to take a moment to say how amazing your video was! I was really impressed with the quality of the footage, the editing, and the overall presentation. You did a great job of explaining the topic in a clear and concise way, and I learned a lot from watching your video. I also really appreciated the way you made the video engaging and entertaining. You kept my attention throughout the entire video, and I never felt bored or lost. I would definitely recommend your video to anyone who is interested in learning more about the video. Thanks again for making such a great video! I look forward to watching more of your content in the future. PS: I outsourced this feedback to AI.
I think you did a really great job breaking all this down. I think it would have been interesting if you incorporated his legal income as well. Such as the strip club, Barone Sanitation, the pork store, etc. Otherwise, I really enjoyed this.
@brentfarvors192
11 ай бұрын
Strip club was "somewhat", legitimate...LoL; It's a cash business, and lots of srippers do drugs...That scene where Silvio was hassling the stripper for "his" breast implants...At "interest", of course... LoL
@jjdillon1207
11 ай бұрын
Barone is where he makes the money.
@marksmith-hk6xz
9 ай бұрын
I agree, however these also would be front businesses as well that would be used for laundering (cash, retail & assumed union skimming through ghost jobs)
@odeleon24
9 ай бұрын
@@jjdillon1207Barone is their bread and butter
Damn good breakdown!! Excellent quality video…thumbs up and just subbed.
Great job, always enjoy your content!
This video was narrated really well and edited perfectly. And obviously brings interesting insight to what people have always been curious about. Well done 👍
Very well thought out video
A well thought out video....impressed.
The thing I loved about the Sopranos was that they always had a working class ethos, it made them seem more real and relatable. The fact that they made less money creates more conflict and therefore drama.
@sleepyandhollow.
11 ай бұрын
What always bugged me is no one else in his crew seemed to make alot of money judging by Paulies house, Chrissy's apartment, even junior's house. When most accounts of real made men are that they lived very lavish lifestyles. Big ang for example used to say she liked dating wise guys cause they would shower her with extravagant gifts like buy her houses. I don't think any of those guys could afford to buy their goomah a house lol
@_zigger_
11 ай бұрын
@@sleepyandhollow.Chris compensated for his shitty apartments by buying a new fancy car every season (his cars didn't fit his low position at the mob at all). He also eventually bought a big house, being about the same age Tony was when he bought his mansion
@dantherman4202
11 ай бұрын
@@sleepyandhollow. I think a big undertone of the show was how the times were changing, and how mobsters were no longer rich and glamorous, but rather struggling to get by, just like the rest of middle-America. The government was clamping down, inflation had eaten away at the mob structure as well as the economy overall, and that along with loyalty also dissipated the class and demeanor of the original mob guys of the previous generations that came from Italy. Hence you got guys making no money and wearing track suits and sneakers, and pushing drugs onto their neighborhoods, all in total contrast to what the previous generation of mobsters stood for.
@sleepyandhollow.
11 ай бұрын
@dantherman4202 but then I think about Tony's dad, also seemed to live much more modestly than tony, and if you watched many saints, so did Christopher's dad as well as his own dad. I guess maybe only the mobsters of new york made it to those heights? And maybe jersey was always like carmine said a glorified crew
@arcanistkingofkarse3635
11 ай бұрын
@@dantherman4202 It's over for the little guy...
People focus only on his gambling problems as the biggest expense but Tony also spent a lot on luxuries. The boats, the gifts to the family and especially to the girlfriends.
@Betared2003
10 ай бұрын
He also has to pay out to different families Big Pussy, the Aprils, and Dimeo
@ivervj2923
10 ай бұрын
@@Betared2003 Exactly
@sora5075
7 күн бұрын
bro you forget the most expensive thing, the food he eats, he's gonna have a heart attack by the Time he's 50
You explained what the whole show revolves around aside from all the family problems very good analysis
tony - 20,000 to 25,000 a week silvio - 10,000 to 20,000 a week paulie - 5,000 to 10,000 a week ralph - 20,000 to 30,000 a week christopher - 5,000 to 15,000 a week
@user-fu5lt5cq2j
11 ай бұрын
Ralph making more then the boss?
@shutup2751
11 ай бұрын
@@user-fu5lt5cq2j boss is just paid tribute, a made guy could have a racket that makes millions, keeps most of it
@anthonynavarro-dh4qc
11 ай бұрын
@@user-fu5lt5cq2jit all ends up going to tony anyways 🤷🏽
@realrinat
11 ай бұрын
@@user-fu5lt5cq2j in real mob they have 10% rule, of any money that you earned by criminal business or somehow connected to the mob you pay 10% to the boss, for non criminal money you dont get taxed as far as i know
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Not everyone kicks up the full amount for sure, thats why I tried to establish minimums so that we could come up with an amount that Tony would get consistently. Doesn't take into account favors etc.
This was an incredible assessment and as close to accurate as we'll ever see
@some______guy
11 ай бұрын
He's off by a lot imo. One zero too much
Nice vid, surprisingly the Wall Street Journal's channel had a vid on this if you're interested. Knowing Tony could be making under $6 mil is killer for that era, but people also have to remember that it has to all be laundered, these guys blow through so much money on women, meals, and sometimes gambling because they know they can't spend it normally.
Bully whispers always delivers. Liked and subscribed for the algo as always. Gotta stay Loyle to my capo.
Finally my prayers answered I’ve always wanted this video it’s like you read my mind
Fabulous video! I really enjoyed the time and dedication you put into this! My only complaint is that you didn't factor in Tony's disclosed income from Barone Sanitation as a consultant. Clearly it has to be large enough sum of yearly income to justify the house, the cars, etc. Whether or not Barone is actually paying that, or it's just a cover, is up for debate I guess, but I doubt Tony is getting *nothing* from them.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Funny thing, when I started making the episode, I was including the legal sources of income but the episode was shaping up to be very long, so I limited it to what was kicked up the chain and even then its long compared to most of my episodes lol. Glad you like it, thanks for watching!
He also has his legitimate income. His position at Barone Sanitation and whatever other no show union jobs he might have.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. When I started putting this episode together I was going into all that, but the episode would've been looooooooong, so I decided to stick with just what is illegal and could be counted on to consistently go up the chain to him. Thanks for watching!
great vid man
These kinds of videos are fresh air
7:45 i think you’re right and that it was intentional as the new york families all ways call them a joke of a crime family. Also its a massive point of contention for almost the whole series about how important their relationship with new york is because, tony states it himself, the new york families have so many soldiers and they’d be destroyed
I thought the 6k a week was related to Chris taking over Paulies bookie operation and not necessarily just being a made guy
@notd0ll109
11 ай бұрын
Yeah that 6k a week was just what he had to kick up to Paulie when he was a soldier. Anything after that was just his to keep.
@michaeld8280
11 ай бұрын
@@notd0ll109 But it seemed to be the tax on taking over Paulies bookie racket not getting his stripe as a made guy, $6K a week is a lot cash I highly doubt that is the basic kick up to their captains. They were testing Christopher's business brains with giving him that bookie shop. I always got the impression that's what it was about not just specifically his promotion. Did Eugene get a business with his promotion I wonder.
This was brilliant bro 👍👍
Excellent. Not sure why it matters to me, but for at least a decade now, I just wanted exactly this kind of simple, back-of-the-envelope estimate of Soprano financials/economics to help me understand that universe better...Thanks!
For all of you guys saying he’s mid 6 figures income due to his house and lifestyle remember 1. Tony/you can only buy a real estate investment that large with taxable/documented income 2. Tony does have a gambling/lifestyle issue. He clearly spends an exuberant amount of his money on woman and gambling 3. He does always have money a ton of illegal money hidden all over the place in his house. In random tin cans, under the floor in his pool house and in his bird feed 4. He also did have to work his way up the latter and go from living like Chris or Paulie to where he is now and that takes a lot of time in the mob considering 80%+ of what you make gets kicked up
@incogneto2834
11 ай бұрын
Nah it's not 80%..more like 40-60%
@Andre-by4su
11 ай бұрын
Bird feeder? You sound demented.
@GuidoLuzzi
11 ай бұрын
they never ask what you make or where you made it from. numerous mob rats have stated his on youtube. 20-25% gets kicked up and that's for everyone. associates through captains
@loganerb3952
11 ай бұрын
@@Andre-by4su lol thanks I just corrected it to feed 😂
@dcanmore
11 ай бұрын
The house was built by his father-in-law as a wedding gift.
I think I remember an interview with David Chase who was asked about this, and he said that they themselves had asked FBI personnel who went after mob bosses. Those FBI guys told him that a typical boss or underboss will have a networth of about $4-5 million, with a higher cash flow than normal people. So they might bring in $100k a month, but they have lots of costs too, so their take home at the end wouldn't be that amount.
@dreamsprayanimation
11 ай бұрын
Jesus that’s chump change compared to what the average Cartel Capo makes.
@Jba8179
11 ай бұрын
@@dreamsprayanimationthe only difference is the cartel capos never get to enjoy their money and can’t even live to an old age, if they do, they’re most likely in prison
@hansolo631
10 ай бұрын
@@dreamsprayanimation Would anyone on earth want to take on a cartel capo's position though? Tony is bad enough, the cartels are the mafia but literally with 5-10 times the bloodshed, job insecurity, and based in developing nations. Miss me with that shit
@diogeneslantern18
10 ай бұрын
@@dreamsprayanimation The cartels are on a different level entirely. Scourges of society. Living demons.
@BoxStudioExecutive
7 ай бұрын
Lol that’s it? Hardly seems worth the crime
Amazing work
This was soooooooo good!!
Not as much money as a varsity athlete.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
His hands were too small to grab that much money. Thanks for watching!
If Vito’s envelope is a little light he can always get a note from his doctor.
@jazzjackson9875
11 ай бұрын
Either that or go and grease the union a little bit more
Just saw a similar thing on wsj about finances and the sopranos, this is gonna be a great one
Great breakdown!
Tony doesn't need money as a made guy he gets soft drinks of choice.
More than a mailman
Excellent way of breaking everything down.
Great video topic
Thats alot of gabagool!
Towards the end of the series, I remember Hesh mentioning that Tony was losing most of his money through gambling and only had a little over $6 million left.
@jackedkerouac4414
11 ай бұрын
Just watched Chasing It. Such a masterful episode showing the life of a gambling addict.
@GOSTDatingandLifestyle
11 ай бұрын
Hesh says; not including assets he has a little over 6... we don't know if he meant 6million of 600,000. Michael imperioli on TS thought it more likely 600K
@bobbyfischerman4811
11 ай бұрын
He didn’t say 6 million, he said 6 gorillion, pay attention.
@intelligentspeculator7327
11 ай бұрын
@GOSTDatingandLifestyle Man who on Earth would have said "6" while referring to 600K? You'd rather say it while referring to $6 million. Not to mention, Tony would have been the biggest idiot in the history of the organised crime, if after all those hundreds of scores and rackets, after leading a crew of dozens of soldiers and associates and after having lived evading the FBI for decades, he would have only had 600K of saved worth, which is far less than a good manager, banker or a businessman is worth in the US.
@codenamehiddenmeadow
10 ай бұрын
@@intelligentspeculator7327 yeah, even i got more than that and i ain't never whacked nobody!
This is a good nerdy fan vid. Nice job!
great video brother!
I think it varies a bit by season. In S1 he was realistically a capo with boss powers. everyone was kicking up to jackie/junior. So he would have been more in the high 6 figure, low 7 figure range. 750k-1.5 million. S2-S5 was definitely a high point as he did the hostile takeover on junior, got further entrenched with new scams and had the entire family kicking up to him. That said, Id argue 50 soldiers is a bit much. Remember smaller families like the actual new jersey family/philly family/boston family would have crews in the 4-8 people range quite often. So for me, Id argue at his height tony was looking more at a 3-5 million number. by S6 the scams were still running but I think there was a lot of retirement and attrition going on over the course of the last two seasons and it seems like the family had gotten significantly smaller. In the end his income probably came down to a point where it was in between what he was making as a capo and what he made at his height. maybe in the 2 million range.
Cool video. Yeah when Eugene got his inheritance and told Tony about the two mill I thought Tony was instantly jealous. This is video provides a whole new perspective as Tony makes more than double that per year. Part of why I didn't think Tony made that much was because Johnny Sac's estimated net worth was 5 mill when he got busted, but I guess that was only clean money.
@VideoboxInc
7 ай бұрын
Tony also mentions during the construction shut down that johnny sack only has that construction project for his income. Johnny wasn't mister moneybags. Moved to jersey to also save money.
@boskey10
5 ай бұрын
When John Gotti was asked what he made a year he said 5 million. He was a degenerate gambler as well. These bosses make a lot, but not wall street money 50-100 million+.
Always with the scenarios
It lines up with how you see them live. Tony lives in a mansion, Sil has a very comfortable looking double story house. Paulie's place looked very average though. Ralphie was also living in a pretty average place considering his income, but Christopher can afford stately Wayne manor when he's a captain. Seems like the soldiers and associates were making next to nothing. Sucks to be Patsy, the eternal soldier
Executive game is maybe once or twice a year since Junior had been on house arrest/indicted for around 1 year by the time he and Tony talked about the game
great video bro!
WOW, really well done. Thank you for spending all that time in piecing all of it together. I look forward to seeing more from you. Really awesome job. BTW, in my opinion the Sopranos is the greatest drama in all of TV history. The best writing and the best acting I've seen. Finally, I have to disagree with David Chase. I still firmly believe that it was us, the audience, that got whacked in the very last, fade to black scene in the last episode.
he lives next door to a doctor, so most likely about the same amount as a doctor
@chainsaw2950
3 ай бұрын
Probably much more.
The 6G minimum was attached to a gift to Christy for Paulie giving him the sports book. It was an established enterprise, that had regular customers placing bets. That is not a barometer to measure what soldiers would be expected to kick up on a weekly basis. It’s also pointed out that there are periods when Paulie literally kicks nothing up because he’s having a dry run. And there’s no way, in hell, Sil is kicking up 20K a week to Tony. he may be giving him a taste of certain scores he’s got going. But at that level, they are pretty much splitting things that are being picked up on the percentage.
@XXXICKYXXX
9 ай бұрын
His whole equation was flawed from the get-go. If things were that analytically structured, it, for sure would’ve been worked in to storylines, dialogue, “comments”, etc. over the course of the show. The guys kick up a share, based on a percentage. I mean he put together a nice video, more creative than Spielberg, But his reference points were way out of way off, two weeks in a row!
Great video.
I love how you say “even still.” Nice touch ;)
In this life Capos like Paulie would have a regular tribute to Tony that he would always need to provide. The soldiers under Paulie and the associated would also have a pre-determined regular tribute that must be paid. If any of the guys did not make the cuts their lives would be in danger. So, Tony could certainly account the exact amount of weekly funds that he received. Any extra heists could provide additional funding with splits, but Tony’s income would’ve been rather regular.
@bornagybalazs
11 ай бұрын
Not sure what is the basis of your assumption about a fixed rate from the Capos. Throughout the series there were several references to some of them - like Ralphie - as good earners. Makes me think they only 'kick up' a portion of what they made. Similar to the feudal tax of tithe.
@mysteryjunkie9808
11 ай бұрын
Yeah and Paulie had a light envelop a couple of times. And Sil mentioned Albert kicking up a lot more than Paulie was so I don’t think there was a set amount on every Capo
@mrkevinhaughey
11 ай бұрын
@@bornagybalazs Ralphie was considered a good earner because he regularly kicked up more than the required weekly/monthly amount. People being considered good earners in no way negates that fact that there was a fixed amount they were required to kick up.
@mrkevinhaughey
11 ай бұрын
@@mysteryjunkie9808 how could an envelope be light if there isn’t a fixed/expected amount?
@mrkevinhaughey
11 ай бұрын
@@bornagybalazs and of course they only kick up a portion of what they make. If they had to kick up everything they earn why would anyone join?
4:45 Bodie came all the way from Baltimore!
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
That was after the first time he escaped from baby booking lol. If you listen towards the beginning of the video there is a pause between when i say "this will cause us to take a detour that i wasnt expecting" and the word "and" after it because I was originally going to put the Lester Freemon clip "follow the money and you dont know where the f$%# it goes" clip but I didnt end up doing it. Thanks for watching!
@HxH2011DRA
11 ай бұрын
@@bullywhispers9544damn probably should have, would have been good XD
Great breakdown
Brilliant video! But you have to add them all up at the end?! !!
In the book Donnie Brasco, Bonanno Family boss Philip Rusty Rastelli was in prison. Nick Nicky Glasses Marangello was his underboss or street boss. There were 9 Capos under him. Each one of the Capos had to 'kick up' 50 grand a month to Rusty. Say Marangello had to kick up twice that amount. That's 550,000/month to Rusty, or aboot 6 mil a year. Not a bad income. But to put it in perspective in the Brasco time frame circa 1980 the Chairman and CEO of Heinze 57 was making 42 mil/year. Early Hedge Fund guys like Irving were pulling in 60 mil.
@josephphoenix1376
11 ай бұрын
Those guys had 0 Criminal Records and alot more Education and Job Experience!😡
I always figured Paulie was going rough on Chris making him bring in $6k per week. I mean, how much crime can you really commit regularly? I feel like they made less than that.
@toddpick8007
11 ай бұрын
it was $6k a week from an up and running/functional gambling den they ran. During betting season hes making $50,000+/week easy off it not to mention sharking ontop of the gross via vig.
@Wadzillia
11 ай бұрын
If Chris played his money right Football and Basketball season would get him through the summer easily on kick up to Pauly.
@ianwilson4483
11 ай бұрын
Drug Trafficking is consistent crime. Lucrative consistent crime as well.
@mysteryjunkie9808
11 ай бұрын
There are two things that have been recession proof since time In memorial. Some aspects of Show Business and this thing of ours
@frenchsterr4708
11 ай бұрын
@@mysteryjunkie9808where’s the fuckin money??? Oh no one knows what the fuck I’m talking bout now?? 😂😂
This was awesome
U did a good job analyzing 🔥
There's a couple of flaws here. Firstly, the pygmy thing IS the Soprano family as it relates to the 5 families, not an off-shoot crew within the Sopranos themselves. They are referred to multiple times as a 'glorified crew', implying a little over the typical 10-per-capo Roman Legion ratio making up the entire family. I reckon 15-20 soldiers in total. The Aprile crew is Ralph, Eugene, Vito and that other guy at one point - assuming 3 or so soldiers per captain, 4 captains that would roughly work out. Junior's crew had Patsy, Spoons, Mikey (captain), Chucky, and Bobby (the last man standing) when he was boss...so only 5 there S1 captains are Jimmy A, Larry, Raymond, Tony himself, and Mikey P. We know this from the nursing home meetings. Paulie gets bumped later, Sil is consigiliere, Richie comes out S2. Think this is all accurate Edited to add that yours is a great breakdown and conversation starter 👏🏻
@pp-bb6jj
9 ай бұрын
And you think we see all of the members of Soprano crime family? Series mostly follows old Tony Crew plus Junior. And Aprille crew. We don't see much of other captains and crews. Only occasionally. Soprano family is 50-60 members for sure. Plus associates. Which is small to 200 people of New York ofc but not that small. It's expected that New Jersey mafia is smaller the big five from New York.
@gigagod3384
7 ай бұрын
The Dimeo family in the show is much larger and more powerful than the Jersey family in real life. Since the real life Jersey family had about 60 made guys during the 90s and 2000s it can be assumed that the Dimeo family had slightly more at around 70 to 80 made guys. Just because we don't see every single soldier doesn't mean they don't exist. It would be impractical for the show to try and name 80+ soldiers without it coming across as overkill. We only see a handful of Lupertazzi's but we know they have 100's of soldiers.
@pp-bb6jj
7 ай бұрын
@@gigagod3384 200 for Lupertazzi.
You've just made your bones with this vid. Hecsh estimated Tony's net worth to be at about $6 million net of assets but was that annually or just total. I read that an FBI consultant on the show estimated that a guy like Tony would be worth 6 million and that's where that figure came from. I also read somewhere that all 3 members of the administration are entitled to tribute and not just the boss and also that in the some families guys like Silvio get to run their own rackets without kicking up or that they share the boss's cut on his most lucrative rackets. Paulie runs the rackets in the old neighbour since it was Tony and Johnny's old turf so he would have been making quite a bit even though the Apreele Crew made the most.
Great video
Watching the series a few times now I think the number you came up with are very very high. Considering how they all lived.
When he said top five guys. That should indicate they're are more than 5 capos
"Minus assets? I'd say ...Under six. I've known him a long time" - Hesh projecting Tony's net worth. Side note, how Tony treated Hesh after he owed him 200K was David Chase's way of showing the audience how despicable Tony truly was, setting up his comeuppance and ultimate demise.
@22noobtube
11 ай бұрын
It’s arguable that Tony was on a downward trajectory ever since he whacked Ralph over the horse , eliminating one of his best earners over something personal/emotional vs. keeping it only about business
@bdfree901
10 ай бұрын
Demise?
@michaelrdangelo
10 ай бұрын
@@bdfree901 he dead.
Nice video idea love it
Good job, dude
Then you gotta factor in how much Carmella took from the bird feeder lol
More than me (Looks up how to start a mafia family)
The topic of this video is next level thinking.
great vid
That's more money that I thought they'd be earning but considering that they have garbage and unions and a lot of guaranteed income that's not too bad even with all their scheming percentages here and there at all adds up. After watching the show and seeing how much sports betting is important to the Mobsters in the show I wonder how much new developments like DraftKings as messed them up.
@bullywhispers9544
11 ай бұрын
Probably a lot, but not the people who have to borrow to gamble, which would be a double score. Thanks for watching!
From what I understand 2 soldiers per capo might actually be rather accurate for the modern mob. They have become less and less likely to promote people to full members. So anymore soldiers are more and more like the crew's deputy capos. You also forgot to add in Tony's legitimate sources of income. Not all of Tony's income came directly from crime. While I'm sure plenty of cash wash cleaned through the deli I'm sure the place probably turned over an ok profit on it's own
Cool vid 👍🏽
My God you put a lot of work into this
I always got the impression that while they made decent coin it was still not enough when it came to the risk involved. Also the New York families saw New Jersey as a glorified crew. While some of it can be down to snobbery. There is also truth as the FBI put so little resource in bringing them down.