Why Australia Will Be The World's New Energy Superpower
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Abundant sunshine, wind and various critical resources give Australia a distinct advantage when it comes to the green energy transition. So can it lead the charge and become a clean energy superpower?! Australian correspondent Rosie, who you may recognise from her own channel ( / engineeringwithrosie ) , looks at how the country could be charting its path to 100% renewables from wind, solar, storage and interconnectors as well as creating a hotbed of minerals and resources needed for electric vehicles. Enjoy!
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00:00 Introduction
00:30 Can Australia Make Up for Lost Time?
01:03 How Much Solar and Wind Do We Need?!
03:58 Is 100% Renewable Energy Possible?!
05:08 How Much Do We Need to Store?
07:04 Critical Minerals
08:25 What About Mining?
08:56 How Do You Transport Renewable Power?
10:20 First to 100% Renewable with Wind and Solar?
11:57 Can We Topple Coal?
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It's odd that Fully Charged chose not to mention that this presenter has a doctorate in Mechanical/Energy Engineering as well as extensive industry experience. The fact that she's a genuine authority on energy engineering makes me inclined to listen carefully and give credence to what she's saying. If she were just another KZreadr with a camera (as I assumed before googling) then I would have taken this presentation with the usual grain of salt. Seems to me that when Fully Charged does have an actual expert on board then it would be helpful to make their audience aware of it...
@mikkoberger8683
Жыл бұрын
And as such, the experts should be answering questions related to voltage, frequency, and rotor angle stability. Sub-transient & transient analysis, and system resiliency due to small and large disturbances, should be at the forefront of renewable energy discussions as we continue increasing the penetration of inverter-based resources while losing the rotational kinetic coupling of conventional rotating machines, such as synchronous generators. While I agree the two largest physical constraints are energy storage and power flow limitation issues, we need to seriously start committing resources and investments to understanding and improving the conventional protection mechanisms and control algorithms on the grid today. Directional power flow relays must be updated for distributed generation, the increasing nature of voltage harmonics due to non-linearities and their effects on equipment, the list is seemingly endless. If we aren't careful, we will compromise the integrity of the grid, which would lead to blackouts, even with the necessary infrastructure investments in generation, transmission, and storage.
@sputnikfreshie3601
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Obvious
@RustyNail600
Жыл бұрын
@@mikkoberger8683this is one of those comments that's intentionally and annoyingly pedantic. If you want to have that conversation, go find a group of EEs with no girlfriends.
@clives4501
Жыл бұрын
@@mikkoberger8683 Let us not forget the constraint of materials supply. How about whole of lifecycle cost vs benefits? This is an admittedly short video but unfortunately it's more of a sales pitch than a true analysis of pros and cons.
@moony2703
Жыл бұрын
Point but given how she does already have her own reputation it could be that they expected people to recognise her… or perhaps forgot she isn’t recognisable to everyone. XD But yeah they have had some famous in renewable circles Aussies on lately so Rosie is another one on the list but point that’s not everyone is going to recognise them all or even be familiar with them.
Dr. Rosie Barnes, another wonderful addition to the _Fully Charged_ cast of presenters. I've been following _Engineering with Rosie_ for a long time. She's a wealth of knowledge with an incredible ability to present heady material in an extremely approachable manner. Well done FC. Well done.
@markthomasson5077
Жыл бұрын
Shoes great, ben following for a white Engineering with Rosie
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
Жыл бұрын
Yes. "DOCTOR." Give credit when it has been earned. Even when the earner is "just a woman."
For those that don't know. Rosie is a Engineer that worked (consulting now as I recall) in the renewables industry, wind mostly. She is The Expert on what she is covering here, no need to interview others. Brilliant!
@nitelite78
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl That's a rather cynical and arrogant comment.
@nitelite78
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl What's the truth? What in this video do you think was a lie?
@nitelite78
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl You have zero evidence about any lies. What are the lies here? That Australia coal mines are closing? That solar and wind and a little back up can easily provide all the energy Australia needs? These aren't lies. It's quite basic factual content here. There's nothing controversial at all. So again, you're just being arrogant and cynical.
@andrewradford3953
Жыл бұрын
Mr Swiss troll wouldn't be much fun at parties. Maybe Mr troll should talk to someone he can trust, like a doctor, about the benefits of lithium, and wind power..
@clives4501
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl Harsh words - couldn't agree more.
Australia always struck me as an ideal place for agri-voltaics, giving shade where needed and possibly using some of the electricity for water desalination for the farm.
@AussieZeKieL
Жыл бұрын
That’s so expensive though.
@Chris-ei5fz
Жыл бұрын
@@AussieZeKieL expensive short term but cost effective when viewed over time.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
Жыл бұрын
They make a great solution for covering irrigation canals to reduce evaporation loss, and with the odd battery here and there, can power the canals pumps.
@t1n4444
Жыл бұрын
The idea is to reduce global warming so why do you and others keep on about costs? If sea levels rise any faster then it's going to cost a lot more ... first the governments will faff about with coastal defences ... then twig that's very short term so a waste of cash. Perhaps it would be more prudent to start migrating people onto floating islands or much higher ground. Taking on Mother Nature seems a tad silly, given she's got a lot more experience of climate change and resulting weather.
@rey_nemaattori
Жыл бұрын
@@AussieZeKieL Expensive to set up, but the greater yields and a energy & water surplus, would make for larger profits and thus a similar or probably better ROI. However, the goal is of course to reduce emissions, to which hardly a price tag can be put.
I'm very glad to see that Rosie Barnes has joined the Fully Charged team. I've watched a lot of her videos and she is brilliant. Good topic too. I love solar and wind solutions since they don't depend on a scientific breakthrough that never really happens.
@thomasgade226
Жыл бұрын
also, see their video on large CO2 "battery"
So glad you guys brought Rosie on board she's awesome at breaking things down in a matter of fact logical way.
@bertilhatt
Жыл бұрын
I was a bit surprised at how much more sleek Engineering with Rosie has gone suddenly… And then there was the ad segment with Llewelyn.
Looking forward to seeing Rosie at Fully Charged Show Sydney. Such a well informed enthusiastic & optimistic presenter. We need more promotion of the abundance that a renewable future can bring.
Lovely to find Rosie here, now all that's needed is the right people to listen!
Rosie Barnes... you are wonderful! Best and most relaxed presentation of facts I've seen in ages. Please do more.
This is one of the best videos I have watched on Australian renewable energy.....you win the internet today!!
No way! Rosie! Rosie's channel is amazing! I'm so glad to see her on the team and getting more exposure. She's going to be the presenter that gets this channel to 1 million subscribers!
Wonderful to see Rosie presenting for Fully Charged. Already a keen watcher of "Engineering with Rosie".
Hi Rosie. Great video! Fantastic to see you collaborating with Robert and the team at Fully Charged. I hope you get more gigs with them 🙂
@Sekir80
Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave!
@kez2164
Жыл бұрын
Dave and Rosie should collaborate, that would be quite a YT episode. Maybe on the materials required for wind turbines, innovations in maintaining off shore blades, or potential pros and cons of different micro scale 'at home' or 'in backyard' wind energy systems.
Having lapped the map several times in Australia and taken extensive road trips in the US, all the while observing energy and lifestyle trends, I have a couple of observations. Some of the most desirable areas to live only lack water and previously lacked energy. Those places in the US are actually populated because of water from the Colorado River. Energy is no longer a problem wherever there is wind and sun. Wherever there is cheap energy and sea water, potable water is no longer an issue. The Southern and Western coastlines are now ripe for great living, where previously water from the Murray River was available only as far West as Ceduna. Eucla, Esperance, Kalbarri, Denham, Exmouth etc are all great lifestyle choices. Most of these locations are at the pointy end of the renewables spear. Local water infrastructure that enables population in remote locations is more economical than bulk energy transmission from remote to populated areas. As Rosie points out Australia has the box seat regarding renewables. Having thought about it for years, I could go for days about the economical opportunities.
Hello Rosie, Thank you for mentioning the term "Dunkelflaute" (greetings from Germany!). I would like to point out a few local or regional storage systems: 1) RedoxFlow - a liquid-based storage system, where a lot of research is already being done on different chemical element combinations in terms of efficiency, toxicity and costs. What I particularly like about it is the scalability - the converter unit is decoupled from the storage. You increase the amount of storage simply by adding more tanks! In addition, it is a closed system that does not experience any (or hardly any) degradation - unlike e.g. Li-Ion batteries. 2) Seasonal ice storage. I haven't delved deeper into this matter yet, but here in Germany a number of systems for larger houses and house complexes have already been installed. 3) Here in Germany there are already municipalities where all renewable electricity producers are actually brought together and stored in a specially constructed 40-foot container on the outskirts of the village. In the evening and at night, the electricity is made available again. The regional power company supports this project because it saves them having to upgrade the power lines to this location. And the place's fluctuating electricity draw is compensated for pretty well.
Thanks for the video, Rosie. Nice to see you on The Fully Charged show and your channel.
THANKS for letting the experts speak directly! Rare in the media ;)
Excellent presentation of where Australia is up to in the transition to renewable energy. I hope this episode can be spread far and wide to the general population to create much greater awareness of how Australia is well on the way to renewable energy self sufficiency.Thank you Rosie(Engineering with Rosie) and FullyCharged Show.
@repairman2be250
Жыл бұрын
In the meantime cost has gone to the roof.
Wow so dense with information. Here's my notes i took, i hope they're useful to others too: in 2021 Australia got 29% of it's energy from renewable sources. In the last 12 months (as of end of Feb) we got 35% from renewables. 13% was from wind, 9% from rooftop solar, 6% from utility-scale solar farms, 8% from hydro. Rooftop solar is currently at 28 GW total capacity (1 in 3 households have solar panels). We're expecting rooftop solar to triple by 2030 (7yrs). Utility-scale wind & solar is currently at 17 GW total capacity that gives us 21% of our energy. We have another 17 GW worth of projects paid-for & ready to build. So that's about 2/3rds of our energy from wind & solar by 2030 without changing anything. Energy Market expects/projects that renewables will be 83% of our energy by 2030, and 98% by 2050; By 2050 2/3rds of households will have rooftop solar with 5x the current combined capacity (i guess ppl will have more panels, but also there's more households); Utility wind&solar will increase by 9x to 153 GW. During last 12 months the minimum from renewables was 1.6% on a windless winter evening & the maximum was 66% at noon on a spring day. If we tripled our current renewables we'd generate day by day between 5% - 200% of our energy from renewables (depending on wind & sun strength). Studies suggest Australia needs between 300-650 GWh of storage with a power output of 15-50 GW. This is less than 1 day's worth of energy storage for the nation. In Australia we don't have long periods with no solar or wind, & basically never across the whole country. Australia currently produces half the world's Lithium, and has the 2nd largest reserves of Cobalt. The mining sector makes up 10% of all of Australia's energy consumption. If wind & solar continues being installed at the current rate we'll triple our current variable-renewable capacity by 2030. Coal still makes up over half of our electricity generation. 30% of Australian existing coal-fired generation capacity will close down by 2030 (just based on announcements so far) but it's projected to actually be 2/3rds by that time.
Awesome stuff. So good you have Rosie on board, Brilliant content and presentation.
This is what fully charged need to be doing! I've criticised some of your content in the past for a rose tinted view without in depth detail and analysis but this is spot on. More please!
@SocialDownclimber
Жыл бұрын
Rosie tinted beats rose tinted any day : D
You really know your stuff. Great to hear positive information from Australia because I live here and don't hear enough of it.
This is an absolutely brilliant summary. Well done.
They need a big east west interconnect across thr Nullabor. When Perth is sunny in mid afternoon it can power Sydney's evening peak. Vice versa in the morning.
@MrDisasterboy
Жыл бұрын
Probably quite a lot of loss over that kind of distance.
@ecoworrier
Жыл бұрын
@MrDisasterboy They need high voltage DC for distance I think. The UK is currently planning a long distance interconnect to Morocco sub-sea across the bay of biscay. Its possible.
@MrDisasterboy
Жыл бұрын
@@ecoworrier I'm sure its possible. I'm just not convinced the cost is justified against other options.
What a pleasure to see two of my favorite KZread channels collaborating!
It's nice to see such a detailed subject put so simply by someone with merit.
Another top episode FCL Team and welcome Rosie. Great to see such an expert join and represent Australia on an awesome KZread channel always pushing the clean, green message. Would love to see more on local community batteries. I think these are much more valuable and a better use of resources then each house having a battery on it. 👍☀️⚡🔋
Great to see Rosie making an appearance on the show. She's got a great channel.
Nice one Rosie! great to see Australian content to the FCS increasing and a truly world views are now seen and compared....Australia to be a renewable super power...I vote yes!
@clives4501
Жыл бұрын
"Australia to be a renewable super power" - at what cost and for what benefit?
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
@@clives4501 None of these people ask questions! Unicorn farts...as long as it doesn't affect them.
Great to see Rosie join the team :)
Now there's a lass that knows her stuff, she never missed a beat! I loved that talk...many thanks for telling us what we wanted to know.
Here's another follower of both channels excited to see Rosie on Fully Charged! Woohoo!
Great to see the progress in Australia. I did not realize how quickly they are transforming their electricity generation. Rosie does a great job explaining, very clear and simple. No doubt her extensive engineering knowledge and experience helps. Her “Engineering with Rosie” KZread channel is one of my favorites.
The Lucky Country should absolutely be at the front of the renewable energy transition. It just makes sense. So glad we seemed to have come to our senses on that front and that we'll hopefully make up some lost time.
As a german passionate about the field, it gave me goosebumps hearing you adopted Dunkelflaute. ❤
Fantastically informative - looking forward to hearing more from her. Well found! 👏👏
I enjoyed Rosie’s presentation as always. I am 99% off-grid with solar and home batteries. To get to 100% I did consider wind as it tends to be more windy in the monsoon season here, but having seen Rosie’s excellent videos on domestic wind I decided to not go down that route. Instead my next EV will have V2L, maybe the BYD Seal which has 4kW power output. We hear a lot about V2G but very few cars have this built in. I would like to see a show about V2L which is easy to integrate into a solar inverter. As I have a big solar system I am banned from exporting to the grid, this is the case in many countries and people are restricted to smaller 5kW solar systems. This restricts how much domestic solar can be part of the solution.
@TsLeng
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a battery storage system sort your out? They are pretty reasonable in price these days. V2L is good too but if you need to use the car....
@EcoHouseThailand
Жыл бұрын
@@TsLeng home batteries has got me to 99% off-grid. Most people would probably be happy with that but I want to be 100%. About once a year we get 3 to 4 days of continuous heavy rain. Adding home batteries to cover that wouldn’t be economic. A car with 85kWh of batteries would cover the house needs and still have power for local trips.
@TsLeng
Жыл бұрын
@@EcoHouseThailand I got you. Yes, then that would work. Or a petrol generator haha haha.
Fully Charged videos are so well produced. Great graphics and sound quality. Very cool to see Rosie here. Australia is blessed with sun, wind and renewable energy minerals. Australia's lithium is hard rock as opposed to brines as shown in the video.
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
The lithium dug out of the ground from one of the mines in Western Australia is 1.3% of the extracted ores. The holes in the ground are already large enough to swallow whole towns. Only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, it's cheaper to simply dig up more lithium. Ask the question, what is going to happen to all of this infrastructure at end of life? So far most of it is going to landfill.
@AWildBard
Жыл бұрын
@@margaretarmstrong2445 I doubt that you are an expert in mining or in recycling. You might want to consider that your sources of information are feeding you propaganda. They have a vested interest in mis-informing you. The question is, what are you more invested in? Reality or the culture of misinformation?
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
@@AWildBard Nothing I have said is untrue. Before you call other people liars, do some simple research. You are the one choosing to simply believe everything you've been told. I have been lied to by the best of them. The developers who swan onto the properties of unsuspecting farmers don't know how to tell the truth. If you haven't looked at the cradle to grave story of wind, solar, backup batteries and EV's then you know nothing. At least take the time to find out how much lithium is actually extracted out of Australian ores as a percentage. It's too easy for you to simply discredit someone with spiteful language.
Great update! What I like about technology is that as things get rolled out, the costs of production and maintenance go down, so it's getting better, cheaper and easier... 👍
Love to see Australia go green in a big way.
What about tidal power for Australia?
Hi Rosie, please talk about the possibilities for sodium ion batteries for grid storage or vehicle use in a future video. I would also like to learn of anything new in energy storage.
Thanks Dr Rosie!
Rosie, you are AMAZING ! Thank you for such a well put together script with clearly so much research and knowledge. ❤ 🎉 😊
Aus has developed two types of Batteries that use Zn and Br and no Li at all. Both elements are readily available from multiple sources. Then you have the liquid metal batteries based on Sb and Ca and recently Al and S. You have the redox batteries based on V or Fe. Coming along are Na batteries. All have some huge positive characteristics not found in Li batteries besides the easy access and cheapness of the elements they use. All can be cycled between 0 and 100% charge with no damage, last much longer than Li batteries, use simpler electronics for their charge and discharge cycle and are much easier recycled, if you ever need to recycle them. How about an in-depth treatment of each of the alternate battery chemistries. I bet all they need is market share to out-compete Li batteries for cost.
@peteinwisconsin2496
Жыл бұрын
I also asked for a presentation on batteries made with abundant materials. I think that Elon Musk is nuts for using Lithium batteries for stationary storage. Soon those will be "mined" out of the power plants and put into mobile applications that justify the cost of lithium.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
So you haven't checked the volumetric density of Sodium ion cells? Great for storage.... Not so much for vehicles.
I would like to hear more about flow batteries.
@ItsMeChillTyme
Жыл бұрын
Look up redflow. They suck in density, just made for long term store.
awesome summary! thankyou Rosie!
Thank You rosemary always enjoy watching your videos
I am a big fan of Rosie and really enjoyed this overview. I recently vacationed in Australia and one thing stood out for me. Conservation and energy efficiency did not seem to be important. The norm was buildings with little or no insulation along with single pane windows. I build houses in Southern California and a home with a modern thermal envelope uses half the energy for heating and cooling.
@SocialDownclimber
Жыл бұрын
Older homes are often double brick, and are great for thermal management. Newer homes tend to be poor quality because our construction industry is quite corrupt.
@indyrock8148
Жыл бұрын
We have had mandatory minimum energy efficiency on all new homes for about 15 years. It varies state to state but generally requires a certificate from an external auditer prior to construction. Commercial buildings are the same but the incentive is greatly reduced running costs which is better recognised in building design. This is a well developed industry because the associated running costs savings are significant in larger buildings. There was even a nation wide government incentive about 12 years ago to pay for people to insulate their homes.
@stevenbalekic5683
Жыл бұрын
Laws and regulations for energy efficiency in new build houses was only introduced within the last 20 years...before that only the bare minimum was done to make a house comfortable enough. Old houses (like mine built in the 1920's) were not insulated. The previous owner had insulation installed in the 70's or 80's but the walls (double brick) and windows (single pane sashes) are still untouched. But any new extension will be subject to energy efficiency laws the same as new builds.
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
@@indyrock8148 Regards to your last sentence, that went well didn't it. How many people died? So many unregulated small businesses.
@mv7405
8 ай бұрын
Fake accounts
What an asset for the Fully Charged team. Rosie has a great ability to explain renewables without over simplifying.
An excellent video with another knowledgeable and enthusiastic presenter. I have no doubt that Australia will achieve the goals described by Dr Rosie Barnes and probably in a shorter timescale than she suggests. I really hope they do as the earth's fragile climate is under severe stress and needs all the help it can get ........
Thanks; great content, as usual. Clearly, storage is the answer, regardless of the question.
She missed one REALLY important sentence out of this otherwise great presentation... "and if you have been, thanks for watching" 🤣
Great to see Rosie on the channel!
Amazing breakdown from Rosie! Thank you.
I'd like to see more discussion on community batteries - how and who do we convince to get them happening in Australia? Great episode btw!
@theairstig9164
Жыл бұрын
You start by getting one of your own and telling the distribution network service provider they don’t control it or you
@unknownentity742
Жыл бұрын
Batteries are not the answer for grids.
@zen1647
Жыл бұрын
@@theairstig9164 I suppose that's one way to do it... or a smart way to do it would be to get one of your own and let the grid pay you to store energy and discharge it when it's needed.
@grogery1570
Жыл бұрын
@@unknownentity742 Don't tell a South Australian that. Since the "Big Battery" was built at Hornsdale we have got more reliable and cheaper power and as Rosie said 7 days of 100% renewable power in December.
@gregorymalchuk272
Жыл бұрын
@@grogery1570 What is the cost of your electricity? Both generation and distribution charges.
If like to see more about flow batteries. Grid storage doesn't need to be light or small. Flow type batteries can store LOTS of energy, if you are willing to accept it weighing tons and taking up lots of space.
Engineering with Rosie X Fully Charged! Awesome, 2 of my favorites channels ❤️❤️
Wow Rosie. I usually watch your engineering with Rosie you tube channel. Very surprised (pleasantly) to watch your presentation here. Good work
This is such a huge opportunity for Australia and I can’t wait to see it play out. Hoping we get our act together in time to lead the world the new energy future. Cheap energy has the potential to solve so many of our biggest problems today.
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
Are you nuts? Please tell me, where in the world, after pushing wind and solar for more than twenty years is electricity cheaper. Name one country!
I want to hear more about heat based energy storage as well as Sodium and other alternatives to lithium
Good presentation Rosie, nice to see you here.
The real benefits for Australia come at 500% renewables. Surplus renenergy can be used to process the abundant iron and bauxite ore into green steel and aluminium, desalination plants can produce extra fresh water for use as irrigation for crops or engineered carbon sinks, and electrolysis of that fresh water can give us green hydrogen. All this will allow us to export products and and carbon offsets that the world desperately needs!
Robert has been talent scouting while in OZ! Rosie would be a good one to keep! Very smart woman and has the paperwork to prove it. Hopefully, there will be plenty of good things happening in OZ so she can report on it. A lot is happening in the Universities and private enterprises even when the government was full of deniers.
@t1n4444
Жыл бұрын
@ JS S7 Indeed. But would she want to do a repeat guest spot on this channel? If she has her own channel then she might as well cut out the "middle man" once she has enticed potential viewers to her own site. Perhaps Robert didn't see that coming? Of course he didn't. Why would anyone want to see an interview with interruptions when they can go straight to the source and listen to 100% dialogue from the single "expert"?
Heeeey Rosie! This is awesome! It's like seeing my subscribed worlds collide :D
Wow.. that was incredibly informative!
I've been following Rosie for some time now and it's great to see her on Fully Charged!
@mv7405
8 ай бұрын
Good for you
@CausticLemons7
8 ай бұрын
@@mv7405 Thanks!
Great to see Rosie presenting on this channel... Q Rosie: What about the issues in regards to EOL of Wind and Solar with respect to the environment?
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Compared to other sources? Well, we can discount Nuclear(?) . Wind turbines, if you build the pylons correctly, the will outlive the generation units/ blades and can have new units installed with the latest, more efficient technology (already being done in Spain, and no doubt elsewhere) Generator? Recyclability must be "high 90's"? . Blades? Watched a video recently detailing plans to recover 98% of material (now there's enough to spool up the industry!) As I recall (just for instance) "fibrous material" in the blade, once shredded, makes a great filler for cement, offsetting carbon in that production process. ...... Solar? 95%+ Glass and Aluminium, that'll be fully recyclable. Copper? Same, the rest are trace elements, most of which will be recovered in the glass recycling process. . We should of course note that the "lifetime" of a solar panel (similarly to batteries) is calculated at "±80% of original capacity" with a guarantee on the latest units of at least 20 years, so they remain useful for way past that time. Balanced against the high carbon construction and constant daily footprint of other generation, it's not even close.
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 There is so much you don't know about the recycling of wind and solar. The most obvious of which is that very little of it is recycled. The blades are being cut into three in some states in America and buried in landfill. We've been sent photos of stacks of them that were dumped near a national park in Queensland. Victoria is the only state that I know of to declare solar panels as E-waste so instead of paying collection agencies to pick them up it's cheaper to send them to landfill. The collection agencies strip off the frames and wiring and call that recycling. The bare panels are stockpiled. And don't think that they are "mainly glass" for one thing there is much more to them than that and it isn't easy to separate out the different materials. There are also different types of solar panels. We have a commercial solar utility 4 kilometres from our home that is 87MW of thin film cadmium/tellurium solar panels. These panels are highly toxic and they need to be recycled in special processes including acid baths and use of other chemicals. The nearest facility to recycle these panels is Malaysia. This solar facility has not done well and is on to its third owner, how confident should we be that these panels will be properly recycled?
I hope Rosie will now be a regular Contributor on the fully charged show. I really enjoy her channel and have been subscribed for some time. Congratulations and great job Rosie!
Well done. Thanks.
awesome collaboration, more of this please
Excess capacity is a solution NOT a problem. Excess capacity is FREE energy. And there is enough solar in Australia to desalinize and pump millions of gallons of water a day and green the continent.
@-whackd
Жыл бұрын
Build expensive desalination plants to turn them on or off a few times per month to absorb the excess energy minutes.
@davefroman4700
Жыл бұрын
@@-whackd LOL. They could run 12 hours a day 340 days out of the year. Building desalination is not expensive. Its an old technology now. Without irrigation climate change is likely to make food production impossible without it in Australia. The droughts just keep getting worse.
@memrjohnno
Жыл бұрын
Well.... It's not free per se as there would be some associated cost but I think the point you are making is that the excess would otherwise be totally wasted. At the very least (from the start) grid level energy storage would reduce and eventually negate the need for very expensive peaker plants. It really is a no brainer.
I am a big sceptic on all this. However I did a quick estimate of how much just the battery storage for Australia might cost. I take (from the video here) what is likely a minimum viable amount of 50GWH storage. All the numbers here are in USD (including Australia's GDP). Tesla Megapacks are $2 million (including installation) and store 3.9MWH. So you would need 256 of them to get 1GWH of storage and (256 * 50) = 12,800 to get 50GWH of storage. Total cost would therefore be around (12,800 * 2,000,000) = 25,600,000,000. Plus shipping, land purchase, maintenance etc. So we are looking at a 30 billion project. Which is not really such a big deal in a country which has a GDP of 1,552 Billion. Still I am sceptical. Why? Because I have yet to see even a sniff of a coherent plan, with reasonable estimates and timeframes. In the current hysterical over-reacting polity I predict that mad government directives will be implemented with maximum incompetence that will crash the economy and either turn the voters off the whole idea, or render any such plan moot by reason of national poverty.
@chrispekel5709
Жыл бұрын
100% correct
Another excellent FC presenter, and a fascinating episode. Fantastic to hear about how Australia's renewable energy could be further unleashed.
you go girl, love our Rosie
Rosie Barnes on Fully Charged Show - what more do you want?
@clives4501
Жыл бұрын
May I suggest facts and an analysis of costs vs benefits? I am hoping for a little more than a sales pitch.
I'd love to see future videos on batteries. In particular, sodium ion, hydrogen, vehicle-to-grid, and whatever seems most likely to be cheapest.
@AORD72
Жыл бұрын
And the viability of GMG for vehicles. Batteries are the future, the West should be trying to engineer the worlds best batteries.
One thing I notice about Rosie Barnes is that she never talks about economics and costs. She talks about solar and wind replacing coal because they are renewable, not because they make economics sense. At the very end of this video (12:35) she says of coal plants, "No one is forcing them to close, or paying them to close. It's not happening because of government policies. It's simple economics. Adding more renewables is now cheaper than continuing to run existing coal plants." But the headline of the news article she shows at 12:15 says, "Australia hastens coal plant closures to catch up on climate". She also doesn't mention that South Australia, with the highest percentage of solar and wind, has the HIGHEST electric rates in Australia. The costs for solar and wind installations frequently "forget" to mention that they don't include the costs of batteries, back-up fossil fuel generating plants (usually forced to idle at an economic loss in order to provide dispatchable electricity during dunkelflaute), or the additional transmission lines that conveniently-located fossil plants don't need.
@deLappMedia
16 күн бұрын
Absolutely what I was thinking. Well said. We will defeat these brainwashed people who refuse to look at the facts.
Woo Rosie made it to the fully charged show! Glad to see another true professional in the show
Hawaii just shut down their last coal power plant. They are another power island like Australia so hopefully the two will share their experience as they both become 100% renewable.
@clives4501
Жыл бұрын
If 100% renewable = 100% broke, I think I'll go with Nuclear.
@peteinwisconsin2496
Жыл бұрын
Hawaii ended new net metering contracts in 2015. Electricity is very expensive there and they have abundant sunshine. Grid defection there is a big problem for the electric utilities in Hawaii. Homeowners are trending toward 100% renewable which leaves the utilities with a customer base of renters and businesses. I think the utilities will learn from the homeowners that solar is the way to go, and that buying and importing hydrocarbons from the mainland is a dead end.
If you're exploring alternative energy sources in Australia, can you do a deep dive on wave power, tidal power, or sand batteries?
Australia is also a major supplier of uranium, which could be used to power reactors like Molten Salt plants that would not need any battery storage at all. With the Moltex design the power plant can also produce power on demand even with highly intermittent solar/wind on the same grid so the reactor using stored heat in salt could act as the only battery needed. So a 2GW thermal plant you would have 1GWe avg output, but with 2GWe generators those could be ramped up and down to counter match the solar/wind. This matching variable nuclear with variable renewable is a good match.
@chapter4travels
Жыл бұрын
That's a terrible idea. Who wants an industrial heat source that doesn't just make electricity but has direct industrial heat and synthetic fuel applications? We want an electricity-only source that needs 100% backup, is weather, time of day, season, geographic, and material resource dependent. Each of these dependencies makes the energy far more expensive and less reliable but creates green jobs. Sure the waste can be reused to make more energy but until then it will frighten people. Sure it can't hurt anyone but think about their feelings.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
@@chapter4travels Well said. Nuclear = Unclear
@chrispekel5709
Жыл бұрын
@@chapter4travels think about their feelings? Please elaborate? I really laughed at that
i just looked at Rosie's channel, she's been uploading videos for 2 years and literally every single video makes me want to watch it. OH NO, and here i was getting so close to catching up with my youtube videos, welp my list just increased by 59 videos! :D
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
Not the Toyota/ Hydrogen one (if it's still there)
@roidroid
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Even that one should be watched, TWICE! Have you ever considered backing up your personal (controversial/edgy) opinions with any sortof explanation or reasoning? It could give positive results.
So good to see you here on Fully Charged, Rosie. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us.
I thought it was an Engineering with Rosie video
More from Rosie please - great communicator and knowledgable.
@margaretarmstrong2445
Жыл бұрын
Except that she did not mention one of the many negative aspects of this infrastructure.
Great content and really great speaker
Australia can provide solar for the whole world. Easier than Sahara. Since it's one country. Easy admin
Yay Rosie!
Fantastic video thank you!!!!
Rosie says that to get to 100% renewables isn't much more than we are doing now, then goes on to say it is 3x current production just to get to 100% of existing electricity demand. Australia total energy consumption in 2021 = 1,589TWh Total electricity production in 2021 = 247.06TWh So it's closer to 6 or 7x current renewable production to get to 100% renewables for our entire economy.
What use is being made of the electrical connectivity from closed coal fired power stations? e.g. placing wind and solar generation at the closed sites.
Great video and overview, i think the govt should place more emphasis on home battery storage, Could do something like applying the same STC structure to battery purchases. That way as mentioned we are generating and using our own green energy within our own homes (taking pressure off the grid). The current STC scheme has made roof top solar the power house it is today, should batteries be the next natural extension of such a successful program?
Storage is only needed in local areas it is cheaper and better to have an "oversupply" of green electricity and heat generation! That way we have enough for our domestic needs and the extra can be turned into ammonia and hydrogen for export. Then if still have some spare we can desalinate seawater and pump it over the range to keep our rivers flowing. Inland there are huge amounts of underground water that is salty and we could desalinate that and wouldn't need to pump it so far to use it for irrigation.
Great to have Rosie Barnes as part of the Fully Charged Team. It seems for some time I have not heard any reference to wave or tidal as possible intermittent renewable options. Have they fallen out of favour?
I'd love an up to date episode on battery technology. There seems to be so much going on there it's difficult to keep up.
@rogerstarkey5390
Жыл бұрын
The limiting factor YT channel. You'll need your "clever head" on (Dwarf reference)
@stevezimmerman5644
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I have a couple of spares in case it blows my mind. Keep 'em in my Divadroid flight case. Smeeeeg Heeeeeed! ((Dwarf Reference) No offence intended just had to crowbar that reference in somehow)
the last time I checked out the news regarding Australia's Energy is that there's a LOT of new coal plant waiting approvals and didn't the government approve tons of non-renewable energy plants these past few years, some of which are near protected areas like Great Barrier Reef.
@David-lr2vi
Жыл бұрын
There aren’t any coal power plants proposed to be built here in Australia. Banks won’t provide the money anymore as it’d properly become a stranded asset.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
Жыл бұрын
Ah, cursing the darkness instead of lighting a candle. What a stellar move.
@stevencooper2339
Жыл бұрын
Australia has not built a coal fired power plant since 2009 & there is one new gas generator sched6to be completed in 2024 which is designed to run on hydrogen when it becomes available in quantity. There have been many proposals for coal fired plants in QLD near the Great Barrier Reef but none have been successful in gaining involvement or approval.
That was really focused on the energy in the power grid, but there is also energy for transportation, cars, boats, airplanes, etc.
Great video Rosie! Suggested storage methods Sand / Heat Compressed air Also for generation Wave wind seems promising on king island from company wave swell.
Just get it done. Shame windy / tidal UK isn't doing better but everyone might be spurred on a little if Australia does an overwhelming job.
@tlangdon12
Жыл бұрын
Tidal should be a bigger area of focus because of its regularity and the energy density, but the ocean (and especially the Southern Ocean) is an unforgiving environment. Australia has such a large landmass that its shouldn't really need to do anything offshore, so perhaps Australia will never be a leader in Tidal power?
@adrianthoroughgood1191
Жыл бұрын
In 2021 Australian electricity was 71% fossil fuels, mostly coal which is the most polluting type. In 2021 UK was 42% fossil fuels with coal only 2%. The UK doesn't have much space available on land for renewables, unlike Australia, and yet are doing pretty well with electricity actually. The big problem will be home heating which is mostly gas. We need to get every house in the country insulated and a heat pump installed. This should have been started a decade ago or more. But unfortunately because it is difficult the government is putting off getting serious about it, by pretending we can burn Hydrogen in boilers instead, which is stupid. It would cost about 8 times as much to heat a house with green Hydrogen compared to a heat pump.