NEW Frontera: Finally, a CHEAP Electric Family Car?
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Jack takes a look around Vauxhall's spacious new compact crossover, the Frontera. Boasting huge interior space and impressive range for a tantalising price, is this the new benchmark for affordable family EVs? @fullychargedshow @EverythingElectricShow @Vauxhall @Stellantis_official
00:00 Intro
1:12 Exterior walkaround
3:43 Big old boot
4:34 Key stats
5:34 Steady improvements
7:08 Interior
10:59 Back seat test
13:02 Vauxhall getting serious
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I really wish car makers would put a power supply for a dash cam up in the rear mirror area! Would save alot of hassle with cables!
@SteveLoughran
25 күн бұрын
I wish there was a way to connect a camera on a trailer/caravan through to the screen of any rear view “mirror” so we can see what’s behind when driving while pulling stuff
@stepheng8779
25 күн бұрын
There's a power supply for a dash cam in the rear mirror on the new Dacia Duster 👍 Dunno why they don't just build a dash cam in the mirrors that you can choose to turn on or not 🤷
@SteveLoughran
25 күн бұрын
@@stepheng8779 tesla do this best: continuous cameras all round, even while parked. So you will have a video of who reversed into you at the supermarket as well as who cut you up on the M25 when their lane ended
@origin178
25 күн бұрын
Agree entirely. There's already power up there in the roof for courtesy lights etc. They just need to provide a USB socket costing a few pennies (oh, sorry it's a car.... that'll be a £150 "Dash cam power provision" option.
@keithw7777
23 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree,more people would fit them if they were just plug In and no cables dangling
"My cheeks are satisfied thus far." Every Fully Charged EV review should include a Cheek Satisfaction Rating from this point forward.
So now I have the choice of the Jeep Avenger, the Fiat 600e, the Citroen e-C3, the Alfa Romeo Junior, and the Vauxhall Frontera. And I can buy all 5, and still have the same damn car. I'm convinced stellantis is one day gonna kill off individual brands and just call them "The Stellantis 001" or something dumb
@theairstig9164
24 күн бұрын
The Boris
Well done Vauxhall/Opel for having buttons and switches!
@javelinXH992
25 күн бұрын
That’s why I got a Corsa and not a 208. Real buttons and dials!
@ratchetfox8111
25 күн бұрын
I know why manufacturers do it, almost entirely because of cost, but it's going to land up with legislation being brought in after accidents are found to be because of people being distracted while fumbling through touch screen menus.
@markgamble3786
22 күн бұрын
I find those touch screens and controls even more distracting than a mobile phone, I have to stop and pull over to change things that a simple switch or button used to easily do. It would make the difference between me buying the car and walking away from it into a car that still has physical buttons.
The Vauxhall design language: it's another Citroen ë-C3
@Jon-em4kc
25 күн бұрын
Stellantis group design language.
@luysterborgh
25 күн бұрын
@@Jon-em4kc exactly. So badge engineering. What’s the use? Just make 1 brand and make it fantastic. Fewer choice doesn’t mean by default ‘bad’
@logicalChimp
25 күн бұрын
@@luysterborgh Different styles for different folks... one badge does 'lots of buttons', one badge does 'touchscreen everything', a 3rd could do 'middle ground'... one can do 'sporty' with tiny rear seats, another can do 'practical family' - and by using brands, they can offer 10+ different variants of each model, without utterly baffling buyers.
@drxym
25 күн бұрын
Just another Stellantis EV - basically the same mechanics & parts bin interior, reskinned to resemble a brand they purchased. Stellantis are basically becoming the Luxxotica of cars.
@luysterborgh
25 күн бұрын
@@logicalChimp true but it put a lot of weight on logistics and production, all these variables and thus adding cost and pumping up sales prices… and for just these tiny differences. They should take a page out of the Tesla play book…
So £30,000 is cheap these days. Good to know.
@keithhooper6123
25 күн бұрын
That's right times what I paid for my used car, ten years ago.
@timaustin2000
25 күн бұрын
Um,... Yes? Have you seen how much new cars are now? A base Corsa is £19k.
@backfischritter
25 күн бұрын
@@timaustin2000 you are missing 11k
@brucemacaulay4331
25 күн бұрын
Yes, cars just get more expensive.
@zoinked1351
25 күн бұрын
First time encountering inflation? £22500 in 2014 equates to about £30000 today.
It's not a real Frontera unless the only way to get fresh air inside, is to wind down the windows.
The only thing Vauxhall is the badging!
@brendanfromireland
25 күн бұрын
Yep, it's even a left hand drive... It's an Opel
@DavidMarshall15
25 күн бұрын
I use to say that when I owned a Vauxhall badged Monaro
@drtk722
25 күн бұрын
There are german presentations with the exact same car! Suddenly with Opel badge...
@mirkozlikovski9553
25 күн бұрын
@@drtk722 yeah... and both of them are just rebadged Citroën C3 Aircross... an Indian one, to be worse
@tnickknight
24 күн бұрын
Yup, more Stellantis junk
Ah yes, I first watch Electrifying's review then jump straight to the Fully charged show review , and then Autotrader to finish things off. and the cycle repeats
@carfella7994
25 күн бұрын
Wow you are living the dream
@hcw199
25 күн бұрын
Get a life!
@bwarey52
25 күн бұрын
So another car the same size and price as the majority of car in it's class........why don't the manufacturers make the small EV,the E Up sold in big numbers and now there's nothing,Aygo/i10 /Ka equivalent size for well under 20k would sell but they keep repackaging the same thing
@rusty911s2
25 күн бұрын
@@bwarey52 R5 perhaps? Hopefully anyway. But yes, completely agree.
@Sushi_219
24 күн бұрын
@@bwarey52 Manufactures did some research a while back and consumers kept asking for more space and more range when it comes to there vehicle lineup and small vehicles weren't bringing in that much revenue, that's why the current market is saturated with mid sized and large vehicles. Hopefully this changes in the near future.
"Lend me your ears". Who do you think I am, Van Gogh?
Good job Vauxhall on adding the buttons,j I hope other makes get inspired.
When did £30k become affordable? Strange days.
@SusieSmart
25 күн бұрын
When PCP took over as the main way people buy cars. People generally don’t look at the list price more the PCP payment. I mean an Audi S3 is a £47,000+ car but doesn’t stop you seeing them going about does it?
@reggiebuffat
22 күн бұрын
22% inflation in the last 4 years.
Last Frontera I had was the short wheelbased 4x4 and it was a blast offroad. Have they forgotten their roots or will this be ok with chunky tires, mountain climbing and the occasional submersion?
Lane assist button and physical ventilation switches and buttons are a big step forward!
Great a box on wheels that looks like it came straight from 2004. Lovelyz
@krazed0451
25 күн бұрын
Those rear pillars say otherwise... We're not allowed vision now days.
@sjcsystems
24 күн бұрын
Soul anyone?
Any designer that thinks cars don't need physical lane keep assist off button needs to come drive on rural Norfolk roads and see how great it is at firing you into oncoming traffic I love this "competitive" price well depends what it's competitive with doesn't it? Kia Niro totally different class than this other than size daft comparison this has got to be closer to £20k than 30 especially as it'll be fully loaded with vauxhall scratchy plastics lol Also that screen looks almost too angled away from the passenger. When I'm driving if I want something done I don't want to stop, I don't want to crash if its more than one touch I want the passenger to be able to program the satnav etc so maybe it's the camera angle or the reproduction nature but just looks too tilted away like it's a taxi meter
@chrisrichmond403
19 күн бұрын
I appreciate what you mean, Granted not driven on Norfolk’s roads with any car with a lane assist system that’s too over sensitive it is dangerous but living on the Isle Of Man in the past i have had some scares due to the same systems .
Good presentation! You have a pleasing voice and appearence!
I think we need a realistic range measurement. In a lot of the reviews Ive seen, the difference between WLTP and real world range are 20% or more different (and not in a good way). Having a limited charging rate isnt helping (although I guess its keeping costs down). As for the Frontera, aside from the downsides Jack has noted, looks like a sensible car aimed at sensible people. I applaud the use of real buttons. Use muscle memory to switch them instead of taking your eyes off the road to fiddle with menus with touchy areas that are not quite large enough to hit the first time.. (thats why having your co-pilot able to see the screen helps if you dont have the buttons).
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
25 күн бұрын
It's more complex than that. We've owned an e-Niro from new since 2019 here in France. The car is now on 101,000 km so we have some experience with it. In summer driving around rural Poitou-Charente the car comfortably exceeds the WLTP quoted range for the car. In winter on the autoroute you're right, subtract 20%. In between those extremes the WLTP range (455 km) is spot on in our experience.
@jonathantaylor1998
25 күн бұрын
Exaggerated WLTP estimates for an EV is no different to exaggerated WLTP estimates for petrol cars, if my experience with our Yaris Hybrid is anything to go by... Toyota claims 85mpg WLTP. Over the 7 years we've ran it, I've never seen anything over 61.2mpg - that's a 28% difference...!
@roderickmain9697
24 күн бұрын
@@jonathantaylor1998 Yes. Nothing is getting better.
@sjcsystems
24 күн бұрын
Use your search option to find "EV database uk"
Stellantis generic mid size electric SUV?
Great stuff...thank you
I like the texture of the seats on the headrests, looks like Scales... very smart
I seem to remember Dacia do reasonably priced cars.
@MrAdopado
25 күн бұрын
Indeed ... cheapest new EV in UK.
8:00 cheeky Jack comment.. made me spit out my coffee 😂
Thanks, Jack, for an interesting review
This video is the definition of smiling through the pain. Well done jack
Great review! Straight to point, no nonsense jibber jabber!
Man I remember the original Frontera!
@Hali88
25 күн бұрын
yeah, it looked rugged but was pretty cack!
@timoliver8940
25 күн бұрын
And rusted while you watched it……….. but at least it could get passed a farm gate and into a muddy field which I suspect this one won’t. TBH I’d sooner buy the JeepAvenger version which looks better even if it drives the same.
@MaxMisterC
25 күн бұрын
Didn't the roll over on their roofs, on round-abouts?
@Hali88
25 күн бұрын
@@timoliver8940 I think this Frontera is a bit bigger, the Avenger is quite a small car
@jontallon73
23 күн бұрын
The "original " Frontera was simply a badge stuck on an Isuzu Rodeo so hardly cutting edge design from Luton.
Impressed that Jack was given access to a preproduction model. 👏👏Looking forward to estate car reviews
Why do all new car reveals happen in the same place that Squidward went to be all alone?
@drtk722
25 күн бұрын
But you can at least easily switch the badge from opel to vauxhall at the exact same car!
@drxym
22 күн бұрын
Who knows, but it's kind of cynical and depressing that all these automotive / EV youtube channels go along with this BS. I'm sure they're getting paid jollies to these launch events and they'll talk a load of bollocks about a car they can't even drive and won't even be on sale for months to stay on the good side of these manufacturers.
Great review
Oh another stellantis 200 mile box. That's nice
@MaticTheProto
25 күн бұрын
Ikr? I mean it’s plenty for most, but 250 miles/400+ km would be much more reassuring Edit: nvm it is lol
How does it carry bicycles? Is the towbar kit sold as an extra for £800 like Tesla?
Great video
Please tell us how much it can tow. I'd also like to see a shot with the rear seat folded. Without these two things I don't know if I can add this car to my shortlist or not..
I'm not much of a hydrationsman myself, but it's good to now know what to call them should I happen across one in the wild.
@Hytowa
25 күн бұрын
Hydro Homies is also a perfectly valid collective noun.
I don't like how it looks, inside or out. However, I do really appreciate some of the very sensible, clever little touches inside. More of that from other manufacturers, please.
250miles on a 50klw battery? Na!! It will be more like 220miles In the summer and less in the winter.
@narvuntien
25 күн бұрын
It does have a weak motor, but that also lowers regen but it is definitely in the 350 km not 400 km range.
@MrAdopado
25 күн бұрын
You are correct ... but that is WLTP for you ... i.e. the range standard that manufacturers are obliged to use and is actually just slightly more realistic than the WLTP miles per gallon given for ICE cars. I've never achieved the WLTP for my Fiesta no matter how I drive, but on a pleasantly warm day with easy driving I can (just occasionally) exceed the WLTP for my EV. A genuine 200 mile EV range is very practical for most people who have easy access to home charging ... more of a challenge for those who want to drive for a week without charging. Routinely plugging in of an evening is definitely a "good thing" ... makes sure you always have plenty of charge in the morning and gives the battery an easy time (they like regular short charges).
@Antiguan_Dart
25 күн бұрын
There is a balance to be had between regular shallow charging and deeper in frequent charging. Remember most rechargeable batteries have their longevity specified by number of charging cycles - a charging cycle can be a deep charge or a shallow charge. Obviously lots of shallow charges gets through that charging cycle number quicker! 3500 cycles for a NMC Li ion battery is 10 years charging everyday. But look at what your longevity might be if you are only charging once a week!
@MrAdopado
22 күн бұрын
@@Antiguan_Dart I think you are misunderstanding charging cycles. It doesn't matter whether you do 10 charges of 10% or 1 charge of 100% ... in both scenarios that counts as one cycle. The short charges in the mid band of the battery percentage give the pack the easiest time ... I monitor mine and I have actually gained capacity over the past 18 months!
Good info video and nice mix with fun, thanks. On first glance, from the side, i thought it was the Red and Black Citroën ë-C3. . . . . Crossover SUV. . . . .113hp motor . . . 100kWh charging . . . . Steering wheel with identical form and buttons and also from Stellantis 😁. I guess it will come in 2 battery sizes,the 45kW and a larger one. I would like to know the sizes. That Citroën starts just under 22.000 British Pounds, and not a bit under 30.000.
@av_oid
25 күн бұрын
100kw charging? So at the DC fast charger it will definitely be plugged into the only 350kw stall.
The shape of a shoe box. Revolutionary.
Is there a Full Charged review of the Maxus t90ev?
As with the Crossland, there's something off about the design of this. Now I don't know if it's intentional or just the Vauxhall C segment SUV curse. But as long as the price is right...
But why did they reuse the Frontera name? The original had such a bad rep, let's hope it leaves that behind.
As soon as I saw those seats, I thought that's like a cycle seat. Good to know that not only when riding a bike or driving this car, there is a reduced risk of a erectile dysfunction issue!
Only in Vancouver in Canada? What about the rest on the country?
I have just bought a Fiat 600e and i love it, its a Stellantis car and i think they are getting it right by offering hybrid and 100% electric in the same model.
I had a Nova and a Astra
A rebranded Citroën eC3, yes But I really like the Citroën eC3, now we get one with a Gryphon badge 😃
If it’s close to £30k then good luck selling many. If it’s closer to £25k then they are on to a winner.
Looks like our old Hillman Husky!
0:38 You forgot 'most popular electric van' (Vivaro, I believe, 3 years running).
A good review of tripe....
I'm just here for the sneakers 🔥 🔥
My father used to own a Vauxhall Frontera back in the 90's but his was a 4x4 diesel lol
Chrome was always shiny plastic. Range actually likely to be 200 miles. Boot is ok but won’t take shopping plus grandsons push chair. Good to see buttons though. But killer is the price. Way too expensive as always.
When I was growing up astra was a mid sized car and it was the size of the Corsa, what is wrong with pol
Ah, there you are Jack, people need you to be Nicola's regular tall person, if you wouldnt mind making yourself available. Because some of them haven't worked out they can just watch your review too! 😄😂 Many of them will have followed me over though. 👍
FYI speed assist and other driver aids are legally mandatory for all new models, it's not just NCAP
Stellantis needs to take Vauhaul GLOBAL - We NEED these in Canada !
@rickybryan1759
25 күн бұрын
It’s a pity the Holden brand is t around to slap on these babies
@t1n4444
25 күн бұрын
Really? Might be too small for comfort over a long trip. Not quite fifty years ago I drove (four up) from Cape to Joberg in a Nissan 120Y. A thousand miles in twenty hours on quite acceptable roads. Never, never ever again. Suggest you stick with those seven seater KIA sort of SUVs. The front seats are more like the ones found in Club class. European type cars fine for Europe, obviously, but not entirely sure they work in "big" countries.
@av_oid
25 күн бұрын
@@rickybryan1759Citroën, Peugeot, Fiat and “Jeep” are still in Australia from Stellantis.
@rickybryan1759
24 күн бұрын
@@av_oid yeah but they ain’t Holden’s
Rear charging port 🌝 Physical buttons 🌝 Sensible screen size 🌝 Hot key to turn off Lane Annoy 🌝Physical key to start 🌝
Not bad. I'm seeing traits of the new Citroën bodystyling.
Remember the fun cars Opel used to build? Like the Astra OPC/VXR? All gone.
@SteveLoughran
25 күн бұрын
My Mk II Astra didn’t make the fun cut. But given the plans for an electric Renault 5, maybe it’s time for Vauxhall to give us the electric Cavalier SRi while VW brings out a proper successor to the mkII golf GTi rather than SUVs with a “GTX” suffix
@MrAdopado
25 күн бұрын
@@SteveLoughran It clearly wasn't a 16v GTE then!
@SteveLoughran
25 күн бұрын
@@MrAdopado 1.4L. Unlike its predecessor a British leyland B reg mini it did actually reach its destination reliably. Which is why I’m less worried about EV range: as long as I charge mine up every 150+ miles I will get home. Whereas on the mini it was always up in the air.
"My cheeks are satisfied " 😂😂😂
Jack forgot to button up this jumper
Alot of the comments here questioning whether a £30k car is cheap and others countering with taking account of inflation. The key question is people's wages and purchasing power compared to earlier times and the present.
Or just look out for brand deals from car manufacturers that need to sell a certain amonut of Eva’s. Brand new mgs often sell for 22 grand
Screams vanilla at me inside and out, and not sure for the price it does stand up to competition, especially with more used EVs on the market at decent prices. It may serve to be a good all round option but it feels to me a bit underwhelming.
It’s a re-badged Peugeot 2008e
‘£30k’, ‘car’ and ‘cheap’ don’t go together in the same sentence. 10 years ago a cheap new car was £7k (pre reg with discount): A Citroen C1. An ideal city car, for low mileage drivers. EVs are perfectly suited to city cars, but it’s a shame you can’t get one brand new for less than £10k. The Dacia Spring is the best effort so far in Europe, but there’s still much work to go. Bring us the Wuling Mini EV! Yes prices have gone up, but wages haven’t kept up.
@robertjb001
25 күн бұрын
I agree, a few years earlier before the scrappage scheme, Astras and Focus' were under £11k, after £15-16k
@logicalChimp
25 күн бұрын
Helps to compare like with like, not e.g. Micra against SUV. that 7k would not have gotten you a C-segment SUV with multiple options pre-installed (which is what *all* EVs end up being).
@anthonydyer3939
25 күн бұрын
@@logicalChimp sadly you can’t compare like with like. The vw e-up is no longer sold brand new (last new price was ~£20k for reference). Same with all other small city cars I know. Thus you have a certain clientele for small new cars finding out they either have to get a bigger car, make do with what they have, buy 2nd hand or go without completely My main point thus stands: Driving is a lot less affordable now
It wont do 250 miles on a charge though will it. We know from experience the battery only charges to 80% and wont go below 20% so you will get 150 miles MAX then a 26 minute recharge (20-80) from their own website! No a/c in summer no heating in winter and no passengers.
I see this car priced in the range of £18-23k... No one in their right mind would pay more than that.
@LeiChat
25 күн бұрын
All car prices have risen significantly. A petrol Skoda Fabia starts at £19k.
@claudiuberta5688
25 күн бұрын
@@LeiChat if the new Citroen C3-e starts at £18k (same car as this) i would not expect another price for the same car with different badge. And even so, the comparison with Kia Niro it's unfair, this Frontera (big suv name for a little car) - missed opportunity here to used the name for something more appealing, it's just Dacia spring, Renault Zoe territory.
@kalebdaark100
25 күн бұрын
I don't necessarily disagree with you but it did get me thinking, so as I've said elsewhere in these comments, I did a search. I came across a piece on the BBC web site from 11 July 2015 titled: Just how important was the Vauxhall Cavalier? The first paragraph of which read 'Forty years ago a car was unveiled that promised "the power you want, the economy you need (at) the price you'll like". Costing a little over £4,000, the car in question was the Vauxhall Cavalier.' So i stuck £4000 in the Bank of England Inflation Calculator to calculate 1975 prices in today's money. £4000 = £29,919.63 apparently. It's not really a direct comparison, I'm not sure there is one and I can't guarantee the numbers, but it will do for a back of the envelope comparison. We are back in the 70's it seems.
@claudiuberta5688
25 күн бұрын
@@kalebdaark100 Vauxall Cavalier was another car segment, so I will compare with the actual Vauxall Astra which start at £27k, so if we look like this as terms of comparison and price adjusted to inflation I'd say it's fair.
@kalebdaark100
25 күн бұрын
@@claudiuberta5688 Is that the number for an Astra today? I only picked an Cavalier as I was looking for some kind of price for a Vauxhall from my childhood. Like I say, not a great comparison, but a comparison.
They should create a modern, fresh application that works before they come out with a new copy-paste car.
Those seats look ideal for someone with piles or flatulence 👍🤓
It came across like one of those sales pitches you have to watch while waiting for your service to finish. When it is that price you need to be brutally honest as it is a lot of money for anyone but the wealthy to have hanging around their necks as a loan with negative equity, as it will depreciate as soon as it is driven off the forecourt.
would be a nice upgrade from my little vauxhall viva :)
We were extremely lucky to get our new e208 for 26k then
I appreciate you’re a big lad but the inside looks tiny with you seated - good review
So this is filmed in Bedford? And it’s a left hand drive car?
@dxutube
25 күн бұрын
Built in Russelheim.
@marvin3935
25 күн бұрын
@@dxutubeBuilt in Trnava, Slovakia. Along with C3 (SWB) and Aircross (LWB).
If only we could get these cars in Australia. GM axed Holden in 2021, which was the badge placed on Vauxhalls up to that time, and Stellantis seems to only send us Peugeots and Citroens. Perhaps that's because they are all the same cars anyway, and Australia is too small a market to send every Stellantis brand under the sun.
They missed it with the Frontera name, Frontera should be used for rugged 4wd EVs, maybe even that iconic pickup design :)
Didn't Fronteras used to be massive tanks in the Range rover mould? This thing seems quite small in comparison.
I never thought we would see the Frontera name again. Or has enough time passed that people don't remember how bad the old one was
So GM killed off the Holden badge in Australia only to use the Frontera name in England? 😂
First. Also is this going to be at Everything Electric North?
Where have I seen that shape before? A, it's a Citroën ë-C3... Just slightly redesigned...
battery kw?
@MrAdopado
25 күн бұрын
Didn't he say 50kWh? (BTW it's kWh ... kW isn't a measure of capacity, it's a measure of power like BHP for ICE ...)
Is that by 19 Jan 2038 at 03:14?
it looks so small next to Jack XD
No chrome is not a Stellantis policy, it's an EU directive.
@keithhooper6123
25 күн бұрын
Could use stainless or anodized aluminum.
@javelinXH992
25 күн бұрын
That’s not quite correct. It only applies to chromium (VI) plating operations. You can still use chromium (III) plating or bring in items that are chromium (VI) plating from outside the EU.
Towing hook? Ski hatch? IF not, impossible to sell in Nordic coumtries... Why not looking when having a full car up front?!
"And it's raining".
Odd how Dan Caesar makes statements that companies that continue to make hybrids cannot be taken seriously, yet here we have another advertorial for a legacy car maker doing exactly that. Cars like this need to be made without a transmission tunnel and not with bits for other power sources. Are FCL afraid to criticize these days?
🔥🔥🔥
it dooby roomy!
07:58 👍 LIKE if you’re glad that Jack’s cheeks are satisfied! 🤣
is this also going to win car of the year before anyone drives it like its jeep sibling?
The cardigan of cars.
4:34 I love how Jack will rail against Tesla if they miss even 20hp behind another fast EV competitor, but then tell everyone to stop putting real HP in their EV's. lolol
It has to be sub 30k.
Nice… looks like a Duster!
sorry, is that style "Mr. Rodgers young nephew"?