Different philosophies of what is most important in air to air combat. Maneuverability vs energy management.

@Thatkoolgamer1

Жыл бұрын

Or just be so stealthy they don’t have time to pull of a stupid maneuver

@GrundleLongDong

Жыл бұрын

@@Thatkoolgamer1very true… Or just be like the f22 or f35 and have both hehe Military budget go brrrrrr

@Thatkoolgamer1

Жыл бұрын

@@GrundleLongDong bro people be like “military police are too aggressive” well if I had to protect 700 billion dollars i would too

@MANTUEFLIE2

Жыл бұрын

America is only land bordering 2 places and canada is an ally. We need to go long transcontinental distances most of the time and won't always have a runway

@Thatkoolgamer1

Жыл бұрын

@@earthquake69 oh yes the military police exist to protect very classified stuff yes but the regular police have no reason to protect anything but the people, bc you got a speeding ticket doesn’t mean that cops are bad

Gotta love how the vid literally shows an F-22 thrust vectoring nozzle

@wolfsdarkshadow

Жыл бұрын

Also looked like a shot of the MATV engine at one point

@degeneredditor5251

Жыл бұрын

As I remember, F-22 nozzle isn’t three dimensional

@g4b340

Жыл бұрын

@@degeneredditor5251it is

@BAM_BAM_XCI

Жыл бұрын

​@@degeneredditor5251doesn't need to be it'll just shoot down the enemy from over the horizon

@Alpha_627

Жыл бұрын

I think he was referring to how dorito the 22 looks…hopefully Either that or am an idiot idk

Su-57 Physics sold separately

@user-pp3kb5ls7q

7 ай бұрын

Он не продаётся его нереально купить другим странам

@Skippy.Dinglechalk

7 ай бұрын

@@user-pp3kb5ls7qNo one wants it anyways, the SU-57 isn’t even on par with the FA-22.

@user-pp3kb5ls7q

7 ай бұрын

@@Skippy.Dinglechalk f22+f35=su57

@Skippy.Dinglechalk

7 ай бұрын

@@user-pp3kb5ls7q The Su-57 isn’t even really a stealth fighter, the radar cross section of the Raptor is anywhere from 1,000 to 10,000 times smaller than the Su-57 Felon. Also the Felon looks like a flying Dorito so 😂.

@shadowgamer2587

7 ай бұрын

@@Skippy.Dinglechalkbecause you used a radar to track it right?

Kind of reminds me of that scene in Indiana Jones when the guy pulled out a sword, proceeded to do a bunch of flashy nonsense and immediately got shot.

@carlj7466

9 ай бұрын

They really only did that because the actor for Indian Jones wasnt feeling well that day. Google it im not kidding lol but it ended up being funnier

@fredwupkensoppel8949

9 ай бұрын

That. There are no dogfights anymore. You can't dodge a missile. You need chaff and flares and a computer telling you when to use them. Electronic countermeasures. No matter what the Fighter Mafia tells you, the best pilot in the most maneuverable plane alone can't dodge a missile.

@Toph.Beifong.

9 ай бұрын

​@@fredwupkensoppel8949its funny because even in a regular dogfight and less manueverability the F-35 can lock onto another plane even if its not direcrly facing it. So manueverability is even less relevant now.

@user-xj3yo9sy3l

9 ай бұрын

how so?

@joeasher2876

9 ай бұрын

@@user-xj3yo9sy3l Showing off with a lot of flashy moves that are not relevant in a fight

Everyone suddenly is a proffesional fighter pilot

@Trackman71

Жыл бұрын

That tends to be the case for these types of military videos. I although have somewhat knowledge on jets because I’m a former corpsman and been around jets and pilots.

@thefreedomguyuk

11 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. Many are able to analyse modern weapons systems. Some even work or have worked with them.

@zionmatrix8200

11 ай бұрын

i am

@Botmini17

11 ай бұрын

I am literally a mig-29 pilot for Ukraine

@thewoodweldingfabricator9300

11 ай бұрын

As a fighter pilot with 7.3x10^75 years experience I can tell you that russian aircraft are superior in every way possible, and all the stories of them being shot down by manpads from the 1980s are just western propaganda! Hur de dur!

As a Russian fighter jet, I can confirm we like to spin in the middle of a battle.

@ShadowGamingReal1

10 ай бұрын

Flatspin

@sleeplessknight99

10 ай бұрын

I've heard that spinning is a good trick.

@dragern8421

10 ай бұрын

As a Russian fighter jet how does it feel getting show down by your own air defense systems?

@antares4nt828

9 ай бұрын

LOL

@maxpro751

9 ай бұрын

@@OpenWebChatI feel like fighter jets will get outdated soon because of advancements in laser technology and not just fighter jets, most weapons will get outdated. Can’t out speed a laser.

Russian fighter jet in 2023: I identify as a helicopter.

@S.G.A.R.C.O

10 ай бұрын

Did you pray today did you Pray today cause if you didn't. I might have to get you down on some gangster s***

@canadaballplayz9999

10 ай бұрын

​@@S.G.A.R.C.Ono

@MASSKA

9 ай бұрын

that is USA mentality, putin banned all fake genders that exist in USA

@missk1697

9 ай бұрын

🤡

@bobsterclause342

9 ай бұрын

why is no one pointing out how nonsense this is? THis is crap and everyone is barking up the wrong tree. YOu trade manuverability for stealth. ANd gause what manuvers better than airplanes? Missiles GUess what missiles can't hit even though they are more manuverable what they can't target or detect, often target. GUes what they can't target that's right, stelath so you sacrifice dodging airplanes but not missiles so you don't have to dodge airplanes or missiles even though if someone was somehow on your butt by accident, and could seed you by some luck, and had guns could theoretically have an advantage, although, it's probably that guy and your whole squad is porbably allive to shoot it down before he can shoot you down as kills take forever in dogfhights

Imagine your in war in Ukraine and u come across a Russian jet and it just 360 no scopes you

@andreworiez8920

9 ай бұрын

It was tried.... The Russian aircraft ate a Ukrainian AAM.

@jam2190

9 ай бұрын

Lmao this isn't call of dukey!!!! This is real life shit, where trying some dumbass shit like that will get you humiliated and then unalive

@benvaun1330

8 ай бұрын

You have to imagine it because Russia doesn't have any battle ready jets that can do that.

@sluttymacycheezboiiii

8 ай бұрын

wouldnt be on purpose tho

@Thatkoolgamer1

5 ай бұрын

@@jam2190 its called a joke little buddy, now go make some friends because you clearly don’t have any

"Russian jets have thrust vectoring" *shows American fighter with thrust vectoring*

@jackgeorge5812

11 ай бұрын

That’s what I’m saying 😂

@Eluxivo

11 ай бұрын

2D thrust vectoring vs 3D

@filipskalic3376

11 ай бұрын

@@Eluxivo 2D is useful for dogfight , 3D is for airshows and nothing else

@user-if9ud9uz3w

11 ай бұрын

Maneuverability vs. Energy 😅 wile they dance well we are much faster in top line up. But more importantly we are invisable!

@parrotcraft7503

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-if9ud9uz3w The F-35 is slower than the Su-47 which everyone loves to compare so much

Jet: *becomes spinning dorito*

@AWMJoeyjoejoe

Жыл бұрын

Missile hits it anyway

@wylderisco2344

Жыл бұрын

Patriot missile: HI 👋🏼

@mk6315

Жыл бұрын

I mean, sometimes spinning IS a good trick Not every time but sometimes

@ppbob

Жыл бұрын

@@mk6315nah, not really, missiles generally have a proximity fuse, because most times the missile wont hit you directly, so it goes off within 10 feet of the aircraft

@Xeno88

Жыл бұрын

Why don't every missile be equipped with a nuclear warhead?? No more escape for them 💀

When you can't hit something, you better be able to dodge.

Nobody: Russian pilot: **casually ignores gravity**

@Solon_The_Lich

3 ай бұрын

Belkan Witchcraft

Pilots unconscious but damn that thing can move

@MaliqIbrahim-1306

Жыл бұрын

Those G's hits harder than the air-to-air missiles coming for you 💀

@davio7031

Жыл бұрын

Thrust vectoring can counteract g forces tho

@27droid27

Жыл бұрын

​@@davio7031I'd imagine only to a certain degree

@lenny3802

Жыл бұрын

German technology

@memkiii

Жыл бұрын

Generally towards the gound - rapidly.

Honestly I do appreciate them keeping the agile fighter concept around, cuz it’s a beauty for air shows… however in combat I think it’s more “don’t get hit with the magic danger rod”

@xion1305

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@firesupport162

Жыл бұрын

True in theory I'd rather buy a good missile vs an extra close range fighter jet

@yoeriw7099

Жыл бұрын

Don't be there, don't get detected, don't get fired upon, don't get hit, survive the hit (eject). In that order that's the layers of survivability. now the 5th gen fighters deal mostly in the don't get detected/don't get shot at. where the ruskies seem to go for the don't get hit/survive strat.

@respektetoutlavi714

Жыл бұрын

The f-22 is more agile than any Russian fighter jet, on paper & in the sky 🤷‍♂️

@tegjwokjohn1839

Жыл бұрын

​@@respektetoutlavi714the Su57 is similar in maneuverability to the F22, it was literally designed to counter it. But we'll never know which one is better until we see both in an actual dogfight with each other.

Russia: We have Thrust Vectoring nozzles F22 enters the chat 😂

@scorpiontdalpha9799

9 ай бұрын

​@@simple_Indian_Yes they are

@dr-weeb

8 ай бұрын

It's only 2 dimensional

@yodatheweeb

8 ай бұрын

​@@simple_Indian_Because they don't need to. Why, on earth, would the US waste their best jet on Russia when their other fighter jets kick their ass EVERY SINGLE TIME We haven't had to show off what the F22 can do in basically any conflict ever. Russia, along with the rest of the world, has barely any idea of the US true power cause we barely have to use it. The F-22 barely gets used cause it's the Ace, and we don't need to use it. Secrets to be held back til the proper time

@kalgstol

8 ай бұрын

F22 leaves the chat having never seen combat

@extrachannelyt6528

8 ай бұрын

it's just a concept

Looking like a Computer game. Respects to those Pilots

Oh no a missile is coming after me, guess i gotta do the falling leaf maneuver

@wruenvadam

Жыл бұрын

Also known as the quickest way to become a debris field.

@ZOV_kakashkeVirus

Жыл бұрын

Обиделся что наши лучше?

@xrk2983

Жыл бұрын

​@@ZOV_kakashkeVirusyes we want our jets to be as rare as yours also bud.

@ZOV_kakashkeVirus

Жыл бұрын

@@xrk2983 we can help with that, send them to ukr and lost them forever 🤫

@daeveddd7140

Жыл бұрын

​@@ZOV_kakashkeVirusafter taking down 15 of yours

No matter how maneuverable a jet is you're always limited by the amount of G force you can take before you pass out.

@proxy_server

Жыл бұрын

If it was a remote jet or controlled by AI it's not limited.

@jessicacable4595

Жыл бұрын

In real life it would be limited

@edenfeledrum1540

Жыл бұрын

​@@proxy_serverand? It's neither a remote jet nor is it controlled by AI. AI is still a long way off from being good and reliable enough to be used like this and making a fighter jet remote controlled is an awful idea with how much it would limit the pilots awareness and vision. It's one of the reasons why remote control is mainly used for slow drones that dont have to pull any crazy manouvers.

@car_soup9452

Жыл бұрын

​ @ez_to_die_than_staying_alive yeah it is. Then its limited by how many G's the airframe can widthstand without permanent damage. (Not that much higher, people have pulled enough Gs to damage an airframe permanently, just dicking around in training)

@verfassungspatriot

Жыл бұрын

​@@edenfeledrum1540are AI "pilots" really that far away? Idk

America went with "We'll basically be almost invisible until it's too late for them."

@AltHistoria

9 ай бұрын

they also have thrust vectoring :D that's why the Russian's latest jet is a 4.5 not a 5th gen fighter since it has just half of the equation

@kalgstol

8 ай бұрын

There's a very small window where stealth actually works the way you assume it always does. Russia was smart enough not to bank on that small window and invested their money wisely

@matthewq4b

8 ай бұрын

@@kalgstol And how that worked out ? Oh ya bested every time they face western fighter jets... And you seem to forget he shoots first wins. Russian jets are just targets, even the Ukrainians have proven that, while using sub standard equipment no less.

@thegaminggallimimus4429

8 ай бұрын

@@kalgstol Thankyou for actually being an intelligent human being. Everyone thinks of aircraft conflict in a vacuum instead of alongside ground and sea forces as they are supposed to be deployed

@YungTrappaCST

8 ай бұрын

@@kalgstol cant lock onto F-22 until about 5-25 miles you can lock on russian junk at about 85-110 miles 😂😂 when will these moves be used?

Heres actually the best rule in battle: Strike first.

@Orlington17

4 ай бұрын

thats why russian jets have higher detection range as well as missile hitting range.

You do realize the f22 has thrust vectoring. There is a reason that the f22 is considered the most lethal fighter jet of all time.

@Tiger_1-334

Жыл бұрын

:)

@thomasanders8515

Жыл бұрын

You do realise that there are many stupid rusia propaganda, su 57 exist only on parades

@thomasanders8515

Жыл бұрын

​@@Tiger_1-334don't upset they just don't know you, maybe soon they will found out )

@anthrax958

Жыл бұрын

it only has 2 dimensional thrust vectoring unlike the Russian counter parts that have 3 dimensional. that why no US jet has ever been able to pull a Kavochers bell or kullbit manuvers

@romaaeterna1378

Жыл бұрын

@@anthrax958In what scenario do you think these manoeuvres would be useful? And why would you need 3d thrust vectoring for it? Differential thrust would have the same effect.

How to use Thrust Vectoring: Russian: Maneuver like dancing US: We're working on a new jet that doesn't need tailwing, so that it can be more stealthy.

@robertroznicki7689

Жыл бұрын

My favourite meme right bow is the circular reaction to "russian advanced weapon" and then american dominace for decades meme.

@kalajari1749

Жыл бұрын

​@@robertroznicki7689Ah yes american dominance. Like how they dominated in vietnam and afghanistan

@robertroznicki7689

Жыл бұрын

@@kalajari1749 can i get a body count check on those conflicts?

@lockheedmartinf-22raptor73

Жыл бұрын

​@@kalajari1749ah yes. Let me see the kill ratio.

@footballdonedeals4452

Жыл бұрын

​@@kalajari1749ur country"Russia" a well know local champion. Always struggling against neighbouring nations

B2 bomber: If you see me you're already dead

@Orlington17

4 ай бұрын

C-400

"It's not the plane, it's the pilot." Capt. Pete Mitchell

@fredwupkensoppel8949

9 ай бұрын

"It's the plane" - The pilots who destroyed the first enemy jets using over the horizon attacks the enemy didn't even notice until they exploded, probably.

Maneuverability is important when you have to dodge flying tank turrets

@Knox-yk1cc

Жыл бұрын

BROO!!! that one got me laughing hard!!

@ghxstboy1111

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@jacobfromallstate4963

Жыл бұрын

Made me spit out my drink 😂😂😂

@West_Coast_Mainline

Жыл бұрын

You just violated a whole nation

@unnameduser5647

11 ай бұрын

​@@West_Coast_Mainlinethey had it comming tho

Russian figthers are amazing, their ability to pull these kind of airshow before being blown-up is unparalleled.

@CrazedSundance

Жыл бұрын

Someone tag me when the Russian bots start crying in the replies.

@ZXJL

Жыл бұрын

Someone tag me when they start discovering many "aviation proffesor " in the comment section

@CrazedSundance

Жыл бұрын

@@ZXJL I see you share similar goals to mine, what deranged arguments do you think will develop in the comment section?

@ZXJL

Жыл бұрын

@@CrazedSundance not sure yet but it is extremely funny and hillarious

@1975KyleDavid

Жыл бұрын

😅 I cracked up laughing reading this.

Yes, it’s something I’ve wondered heavily all my life!

As a non-jet fighter pilot, I have zero authority to comment on wether this is accurate. Have a good day.

@niagra898

10 ай бұрын

Or wether you can spell whether.

@hentai6582

10 ай бұрын

@@niagra898weather*

@kobe51

10 ай бұрын

When did that ever stop anyone from commenting on YT?

@holehostage3514

10 ай бұрын

@@hentai6582 noo he was right thats how u spell ''whether'' XDDD

@MarkyIsNow

10 ай бұрын

​@@niagra898weaethaer* 🤡

Doesn't help when your direct competitor can shoot you down from 100 miles away before you even knew he was there.

@AnonymousUser-og8jj

Жыл бұрын

2 more weeks

@mpxlearn7876

Жыл бұрын

not in topgun they didn't 😂😂

@KCJbomberFTW

Жыл бұрын

@@mpxlearn7876ya cause they used f18s because they have a rear seat for the actors Plot armor bro

@pyalot

Жыл бұрын

But at least they will look very cool while being shot down.

@xxmobstrxx8535

Жыл бұрын

Lol why can’t y’all just accept a fact sometimes? Always deflecting.

Russia use 3D thrust vectoring while the US uses 2D

"I'll hit the brakes and he'll fly right by"

Maneuverability doesn’t matter when your opponent is fighting you at 2-300 mile distances

@mchonkler7225

Жыл бұрын

I mean, you kinda need to be maneuverable to dodge missles.

@orionsalt8288

Жыл бұрын

​@@mchonkler7225but they can always launch 2

@techxyz5176

Жыл бұрын

there's nothing like stealth

@robertoroberto9798

Жыл бұрын

@@mchonkler7225 BVR missiles don’t care how tight your turns are. You’re not going to move fast enough to dodge a missile going mach 2. Even then, if the missile misses, it still explodes right next to you.

@mchonkler7225

Жыл бұрын

@robertoroberto9798 BS. Modern missles are clearly different as they travel faster, and the radars are a lot more powerful, but jets in the past dodged BVR missles that traveled 2.5-4xM by notching and other defensive maneuvers. If you know a missles been fired at you from 50+ miles, as your radar should let you know, you have some time to try maneuvers to lose the missle. The US has had BVR missles since the sparrow, if they were the end all, be all, why would not only the US but other nations continue to develop their SRAAM?

Su-57: *Has extreme maneuverability* also SU-57: *Never sees the light of merge*

@lancelotkillz

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't exist.. only ⁴ made

@ghostdiaries369

Жыл бұрын

​@@lancelotkillzwhere do u live

@JS_360NC

Жыл бұрын

@@lancelotkillzthis is misinformation to the extreme

@ImPedofinderGeneral

Жыл бұрын

these birds already crumped some ammount of speaking pork and their lendleased murican lunchboxes-on-the-tracks

@welcometoreality437

Жыл бұрын

​@@ImPedofinderGeneralThese bird don't exist

*the f22 raptor also uses thrust vectoring. The main reason why Russian jets are usually more maneuverable than MODERN American jets is because modern American jets are shaped in a way that helps the aircraft be more stealthy because what’s the point of getting into a dogfight if your enemy who can’t see you is in the perfect situation for you to fire a missile at them and never know that you were there. The F35 has been criticized for not being able to dogfight as well as other older aircraft and it’s exactly for that reason*

@Orlington17

4 ай бұрын

because US military is meant against 3rd world.

So nice that there’s new portraits, I was just beginning to run out!

"Giving them a edge in maneuverability" *gets wiped by a aim 120 goings mach 5 that it didn’t see on radar*

@lsd009

Жыл бұрын

The concept of High Maneuverability Fighter Jets comes from the era of Dog-Fights.. before BVR missile and hypersonic missile were the "thing".. Both are required in different situations.. Missiles have taken over many duties of a fighter planes but still Countries spend billions on Aircrafts because they know that these beasts still have use.. And in case of Dog Fights even American Airforce do not take Top-Line Russian fighters lightly.. Please dont be naive and start giving Ukraine examples... First Russia cleverly did not think Ukraine is worth risking its top expensive fighters and used what we can clearly see Soviet era fighter jets.. And they would have done the job had West not provided top notch anti-aircraft missiles so Russia changed tactics to missiles and drones.. When West gave advanced air defence systems , Russia unwillingly started using its advanced aircraft and advanced hypersonic missiles.. Why unwillingly..?? Because it exposes their hand.. it gives West knowledge about how far the Russian tech has gone without risk.. they don't give a shit if hundreds of Ukrainians are blown to shit.. the Military Industrial Complex wants to know how advanced Russian tech is so they can fear monger Americans into giving them billions in grants to develop newer tech and future orders..

@anonydun82fgoog35

Жыл бұрын

Or an R-37...

@Andreas-gh6is

Жыл бұрын

@@lsd009 Russia actually did use and lose it's top of the line fighter jets in Ukraine. And it's questionable they have a lot of those in any case, and they can't produce them quickly enough with lack of access to Western electronics components. On top of that, their jets aren't stealthy enough. They can annoy all they want out of civilian planes, but no American fighter jet is letting a Russian one come into range.

@froginabucket7294

Жыл бұрын

@@lsd009it’s more because Russia barely has any of these “top of the line” fighters,but I get your point

@doubleot1984

Жыл бұрын

Spends 850 billion 'we great'

Giving them an edge at air shows.

@bolshoefeodor6536

Жыл бұрын

A2A missiles can't cope with this kind of maneuvering.

@trocadero78

Жыл бұрын

​@@bolshoefeodor6536well, nor can russian "pilots"

@InquisitorSoran

Жыл бұрын

​@@bolshoefeodor6536Ofcourse they can, this isn't the 70s.

@eazy8579

Жыл бұрын

@@bolshoefeodor6536this ain’t the 50s anymore gramps. Missiles can pull 180s now, and you don’t get a chance to maneuver when the enemy can see you coming before you get off the runway.

@einar8019

Жыл бұрын

@@InquisitorSoran bruh missiles from the 70s(AIM-9L) could easily deal with a cobra or most other manouvres you could pull

Those thrust vectors are really cool

“Thrust vectoring” is so hot right now

Awesome skills that would only ever be used at an airshow

@reestart7758

Жыл бұрын

No Sire, also in Movies.

@meem5415

Жыл бұрын

Russians give out 200 million rubbles every year for their show that they defeated the Nazis, but they pay around 10k rubles (around 100$) to the ww2 veterans they're praising in the victory against nazis..

@havchikyun6096

Жыл бұрын

Yea... no, you don't know how jet battles work.

@randomlyfactual1943

Жыл бұрын

@@reestart7758 how could I forget that??

@randomlyfactual1943

Жыл бұрын

@@havchikyun6096 I'm going to guess I know a hell of a lot more than you. So, let's educate. For most missiles, those stupid little airshow stunts are going to be useless. For one, the missile is way way too fast. For two, the missile doesn't impact you, but close to you. In either case, pulling a cobra maneuver isn't going to help shit. Now, before the age of BVR combat, maneuverability did carry SOME cache, but even your super maneuverable fighters would get blasted by those carrying more powerful engines. The much larger F-15 can't maneuver like the lighter and nimbler F-16, but because it had way more thrust, the F-15 had an insane rate of climb and that decided most engagements between the two classes of fighters. Again, your triple double 360 upside down loop-de-loop had very effect against the fighter who outclimbed you. Lastly, in the age of stealth and BVR combat, the effect maneuverability has on the outcome of an air-to-air engagement is really, really low. The F22/F35 will pick you up from seventy miles out and turn your fighter to scrap before you even knew that you had enemies going up against you. I'll call this check and mate.

I’ve never once wondered why Russian jets are more maneuverable…

@dow3639

Жыл бұрын

Exactly , like rusian neverbgive a fuck about your nuclear.... stil 61' remeber TSAR...... not îs 2023

@charlesharper2357

Жыл бұрын

I have wondered why they crash during air shows...

@Djroshi01

Жыл бұрын

I always chose them in Ace Combat games lol

@愛を込めてロシアから

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesharper2357 cope

when nexpo say "its petscop 2 time" everyone applause

You don't need maneuvers when you're invisible.

@carlosmartinez8531

Жыл бұрын

Yet they are getting shut down by order aircrafts 😅😅😅😅😅

@ASSASSIN19923

Жыл бұрын

literally f35

@UNSF

Жыл бұрын

It is such misunderstanding to think F-22 and F-35 actually aren't maneuverable. The notorious F-35 can't dogfight with test pilot testimony article surfaced several years ago has been completely debunked as running on older flight software on one of the early production aircraft for preliminary test purposes. The media, dumb as they always are, took it at face value and just wanted use it as click bait to make the military and F-35 look bad. They should be jailed for such fake news.

@Frosty_V0

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosmartinez8531source?

@ognjenmarkov

Жыл бұрын

Serbs: Are you sure about that?

Lets just put down the weapons and go home to our families and we ALL win

@jimreimers4213

11 ай бұрын

Amen

@vvvnokk8309

11 ай бұрын

YES! If I was president this would happen. I'd invite all the world leaders to dinner and to hang out and then we'd just be chilling.

@JayofSparks

11 ай бұрын

Naw. That’s boring

@haivophanphuoc2697

11 ай бұрын

​@@vvvnokk8309well it will be a long way to go mate. US, Russia and other superpowers need to give up their involvement into other countries to make it happen. Unfortunately, that seems to be forever.

@juanzuniga7343

11 ай бұрын

Best comment so far❤

Russoids will look at the 187 F-22s and 900+ F-35s and then look at their ~25 Su-57s and go "nah I'd win"

Young Anakin : spinning that’s good trick

SU57 is so stealthy and maneuverable no one has ever seen one

@bryarpayne3858

Жыл бұрын

That's because I get the synagogue as soon as it get Shot F22.

@quicken200009

Жыл бұрын

It needs to be maneuverable because it has the radar cross section of the Queen Mary cruise ship.

@user-eq3ss9tc2i

Жыл бұрын

No One knows it yet.

@Master-ls2op

Жыл бұрын

@@quicken200009 na that ships to stealth.... more like the moon. IWC fixed that problem on a Friday night over beer and pizza. i give is 1 miss and 30 seconds of some drunk guy getting a call doing magic changing something in the back room.

@michabuijs2095

Жыл бұрын

What stealth bro?

Ah, yes. The Su-57... all 10 of them.

@spcpitts

Жыл бұрын

more like 3. the 7 broken down ones don't count.

@darkflamemaster000

Жыл бұрын

@@spcpitts3 operational su-57, where are they? Are they in the same room as us?

@spcpitts

Жыл бұрын

@darkflamemaster000 I have them. If you are in the same room as me, you would know this, so where are you?

@Tree457

Жыл бұрын

The SU-57 isn’t even a 5th gen, even if it was Russia is too poor and it’s too unreliable to actually work.

@imnewlight

6 ай бұрын

@@Tree457the us says otherwise, it’s officially classified as 5th gen by the usaf, and 5th gen doesn’t require stealth

AA Missile: "Was that supposed to make me miss?"

I like how one of the clips of thrust vectoring was a f-22 engine lol

F-35 and F-22: we can hit you from miles away. We don't even have to enter the country. Russian Jet: Look, me maneuver.

@Sammysul

Жыл бұрын

​@matttim5095 good luck getting target lock 22 has a radar cost section of a fuckjng humming bird.

@johnsatan117

Жыл бұрын

@matttim5095You can see the rivets on a su 57. It ain't stealthy

@Sammysul

Жыл бұрын

@matttim5095 uah no, just look and spending the us has the most advanced weapon systems in the world the su is a 4.5 generation fighter at best with a radar cross section that is 4 times larger than the f22, it's not even a fight. It's the f22 killing a su without the su even knowing uts there.

@Sammysul

Жыл бұрын

@matttim5095 correction the f 22 is 1000 to 10000 times smaller on its radar cross section comepaired to the su-57

@kilerless616

Жыл бұрын

​@matttim5095but it can't.

The SU-57 is so maneuverable and stealthy it looks like less than 30 of them have been built. Engineering so advanced, they managed to pack it into an airframe the size of a city block.

@Leo-eh8hm

Жыл бұрын

Su-57, even 30 pieces were not made and most of them are cardboard prototypes, a funny fact, but the Su-57 is a TV plane, namely for propaganda for the stupid population of russia.

@jameshamel3633

Жыл бұрын

Only 30 made because Phillips head screws & bondo are on the sanction list 😅

@drewbydoobydoo2918

Жыл бұрын

@@jameshamel3633 true, and by some very odd coincidence, the funds seemingly disappeared while the manufacturers were building their yachts.

@metalrain300

Жыл бұрын

It’s also not stealthy at all: it has a massive cross section. Also an F-22 can actually hover facing straight up because it also has thrust vectoring. It’s actually insanely maneuverable. But maneuvers like the one shown are super risky. Plus due to its stealth maneuvering isn’t as needed. They can roll up within 50 ft of another plane and that plane won’t know it’s there.

@WarHunter57

Жыл бұрын

​@@metalrain300shut up, let him dream. I want to belive the Su-57 is stealthier even if it's not.

The f22 with a missile lock watching su27s ballet recital:

I have one on my Lincoln.....it dose the job.

We have thrust vectoring nozzles. America: We have a Maverick.

@Corsa15DT

10 ай бұрын

Tom cruz foreva

@user-ht7pm5ph7v

10 ай бұрын

И он не попадёт. А без авакса ваши самолёты ещё и слепые, а наши сами видят всё, что летает в радиусе 400 км

@tominoski2581

10 ай бұрын

There’s nothing more agile than the American f-22 , do better bud

@JamesMooreMarketing

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the Taliban have some for sale

@Corsa15DT

10 ай бұрын

@@tominoski2581 they don't come close to the sukhoi

They seem to be able to move down real quick lately.

F-22 Raptor *”Am I a joke to you?”*

Love how the creator used a bot with a typical American accent instead of using his own thick Russian accent

It's not about the jets, it's about the pilots --Dom Toretto...and family

@HK-ce2lj

Жыл бұрын

Not really, dog fights are no longer a thing. Stealth ability, longer radar range, and the ability to shoot at longer distances are more important

@tneonrider007

Жыл бұрын

@@HK-ce2lj Wrong, non of the things you said are important, what's important is Family

@HK-ce2lj

Жыл бұрын

@@tneonrider007 👍

@givemeyoursocks915

Жыл бұрын

​@@tneonrider007welcome to family 🤗

@alexrivera4605

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Them vs Us- that scene in Indiana Jones when he just pulls out his gun and shoots the fancy sword guy from 50 feet away.

@lewisclancy5404

11 ай бұрын

Fun fact, when Harrison Ford travelled to Egypt he got sick during the shooting of that scene, he was actually scripted to do a sword battle, but was exhausted - a very in-character thing to do

@aniketsrivastava1870

11 ай бұрын

Typical american movie😂

@user-yi2sx4fe5o

11 ай бұрын

И на месте Индианы СУ-57

@JAKFLY28

11 ай бұрын

@@aniketsrivastava1870In actual combat, F15 vs Russian jets, the current score is 44-0

@markingraham4892

11 ай бұрын

The video is wrong. Russian stuff is better because it's bigger and favors instability. KZread is a retard site so this will be ignored. European stuff is most maneuverable because delta wings.

That's cool when other plane shoots a missle km's away from you.

Russians dance in the sky while they’re getting targeted by an f22

Su 57: Im manuvarable Radar guided missile: Thats nice...

@doctortimm3245

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it can flip around and almost see the AtA missile that will destroy it! Instead of accelerating and dropping chaff & flares, it does a mid-air u-turn, which would be great in a guns only dogfight, but less effective against missles

@franciscojrcosta

Жыл бұрын

War is not a top gun cut scene where fighter jets are just apart a few meters. What really matters is being stealth, having missiles that can take your enemy as far as possible...

@Grandslam245

Жыл бұрын

Radar guided missile wondering where the fuck its target is supposed to be, before flying off and running out of propellant and just bombing some random village like 75% of american weapons do.

@Angleartist17

Жыл бұрын

@@Grandslam245 cope

@Grandslam245

Жыл бұрын

@Angleartist17 i aint coping, your whole air force is.

Doesn’t matter how maneuverable you are when you’re shot down 15 miles before you see the enemy

@romko4496

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Why would USA make a jet maneuvrable if it's shot down 15 miles before he sees the enemy. (It's only effective against stone age civilzations like Somalia and Afghanistan)😂😂😂

@TGP-vq4vi

Жыл бұрын

that's because our missiles and radar are better not the actual planes

@elliottwilford6457

Жыл бұрын

@@romko4496Are Russia still a superpower

@BruceOnder

Жыл бұрын

THIS 😂

@sweetwilliam49

Жыл бұрын

@@romko4496 I’m talking about a Russian jet dogfighting and American top of the line fighter… no contest

So one is really good at shooting things far away, and one is really good at dodging things… I wonder how that came to be?😅

It doesn’t matter we have maverick, duck and goose!!

“Buzz were flying!” “No we are falling with style!” That literally kicked in my head when I saw the two jets spinning in the air.

@Geojr815

Жыл бұрын

Now say that in Russian😂

F-22 has thrust vectoring too

@bucheron2866

11 ай бұрын

only on the pitch. on lot of sukhoi, the nozzles can move in every directions independently.

@BO-nn9up

11 ай бұрын

@@bucheron2866 However F-22 stil have a lot better stealth function than russian one

@user-vw7kl9ws7f

11 ай бұрын

​@@BO-nn9up Где-то, чём-то измерял? Откуда такие сведения?

@annoymouse890

11 ай бұрын

Not 3d

@bigchungus1848

11 ай бұрын

@@bucheron2866the massive control surfaces of the f22 make up for its 2d thrust vectoring.

Casually splits the throttles instead of using the Rudders

F-22 Guest Speaker has entered the room. What was that!! Oh that was the SR 71 blackbird passing by.

warthunder: “nah B*tch we don’t do that here.”

@hamnporkgamer

Жыл бұрын

If its Russian it'll probably do that and more

@ecelik992

Жыл бұрын

Tsar bomba: ???

@lenny3802

Жыл бұрын

German technology

@dobromirgoodpeace23

Жыл бұрын

@@mystery_box7866lol 😂

‘You may evade my first missle with your spinny-winny antics, but now you’re essentially fucked’ - F-35

@welcometothericefield

11 ай бұрын

"Try landing without snapping your gear off mate. Or even try not to drown in the ocean"

@kevn4712

11 ай бұрын

Wanna watch them out maneuver a 60g missile

@TheWPhilosopher

11 ай бұрын

Ozzy man voice over

@engarde9054

11 ай бұрын

But how am i fucked exactly?

@perplexical

11 ай бұрын

@@engarde9054 You’ll have no energy left. Basically the next missle will have way more energy and will be able to hit you square on.

WOAH !!! Now, THAT'S COOL AS HELL !!!

F-22 has entered the chat. If I’m not mistaken, one of the up close images was actually of the F-22 thrust vectoring. 😂

@TheWitcherX

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, not to mention all of the maneuvers in the video can be performed by F14 Tomcat from 1974 and most 5th gen twin engine jet fighters...

@johnpurington6659

Жыл бұрын

Well the Russians are not noted for sharing everything about their military prowess with others. 😂

@IzzYonWheelzz

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpurington6659 just a large number of their tanks, right?

@bilboriches7216

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnpurington6659russians are know for having catastrophic losses against Ukraine.

@pattheegreat

Жыл бұрын

You may leave the chat now

Raptor : "all of us are lethal....we don't have time for airshow, now run!"

@techxyz5176

Жыл бұрын

lethal to balloons

@shadowfox1609

Жыл бұрын

@@techxyz5176 Lethal to you if you keep talkin sh*t, remember they can hit you from 3 states over.

@ECHO-ls7wi

Жыл бұрын

I am embarrassed to mention that Uncle Sam forbade Ukrainians to use weapons on Russian territory, so as not to offend the "poor Russians".

My wife loves thrust in different directions!

I just watched maverick the other night and omg was that a good movie showing what jets can do love it

This reminds me of the scene in Indiana Jones where the swordfighter is doing his crazy swordplay, looking really cool and impressive, then Indy shoots him from 20 yards away and walks off casually. that is the SU vs F22

@tsv83

Жыл бұрын

yeah yeah, i've heard similar rumors about Leopard A2 vs T-72

@LittleBunnyKungFoo

Жыл бұрын

@@tsv83 Fair point - we wont know until it happens

@MyPrideFlag

Жыл бұрын

​@@tsv83Leopards are much better tanks and most casualties were due to mine fields. Any tank gets destroyed when hit hard enough. Meanwhile Russians wouldn't even see f-22 coming.

@LittleBunnyKungFoo

Жыл бұрын

@@honkersss I think a small conflict in Ukraine has revealed how great those guns are 😂 The US technical system’s capabilities have proved to be underplayed while their Russian counterparts woefully exaggerated. Dogfights are gone. It is all abouy who can blow the other up at 40 miles away.

@LittleBunnyKungFoo

Жыл бұрын

@@honkersss So because I can see the results of western weapons vs russian in the current conflict in Ukraine I am an unthinking bot? Go watch some manga and leave the big boy talk to the adults.

*Short version* Cause they always being chased by Frickin missiles

@user-hh1te8lh7b

Жыл бұрын

And their countermeasures don't work😂

@deonedwardsjr.5440

Жыл бұрын

Lol🤣

@shrimpytheshrimpster

Жыл бұрын

Pilot: wow this is so co- The G forces:

@fpsxk

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-hh1te8lh7bcountermeasures is countermeasures, missile now got accms which makes countermeasures harder to work

@robbierobinson3528

Жыл бұрын

I literally liked this video just so that I can come back and see this comment again 😂😅🤣

You can turn as tight as you want to, but if you cannot see the enemie jet you dead😂

Missle: don’t matter if you out maneuver me I got all day buddy.

But since they only have like 6 of them, I wouldn’t lose any sleep

@carjac820

Жыл бұрын

All of western fighters cannot take down a squadron of SU-57 Simply because there isn't enough planes to even create a squadron in the first place.

@user-rl8hf8kt1r

Жыл бұрын

​@@carjac820they have 14 planes.....its more than squadern .....and every Russia plane has this capipality not only the su57......at least Russian planes didn't score most of there loses to flying accidents like the f-35

@carjac820

Жыл бұрын

@@user-rl8hf8kt1r Those are yet to be delivered and won’t be a squadron until 2024. And also, how many F-35s are there and operational? Hundreds!!! Hence why there will he accidents since they are frequently used

@user-rl8hf8kt1r

Жыл бұрын

@@carjac820 there were hundreds of su27 and mig 25 but they bearly had as many accidents in as small time span like the f-35

@Tornado2409

Жыл бұрын

​@carjac820 that sentence makes no sense

Patriot missiles also allow Russian keys to rapidly change direction. Sometimes even going in all directions at once!

@Lovecbabochek

Жыл бұрын

Air-to-air missile Russian r37m range 400km speed 6 mach The longest-range missile in the US Air Force and Navy is the AIM-120D, with a range of 200 kilometers. Speed - Mach 4.5 Patriot Air defense The maximum flight speed is 1700 m/s. Firing range: - minimum - 3 km, - maximum - 80 km. Target height: - minimum - 0.06 km, - maximum - 24 km. Russian S500 Missile ZUR 77N6-N/1 Firing range maximum 500-600km Target hit height 185km Maximum flight speed -3055 m/s

@eazy8579

Жыл бұрын

@@Lovecbabocheksource? That $6 vodka filled head of yours?

@Lovecbabochek

Жыл бұрын

@@eazy8579 I am a Muslim and do not drink alcohol. my source is wikipedia. Did you write after a barrel of urine called American beer?

@West_Coast_Mainline

Жыл бұрын

@@Lovecbabochek American beer is intended to be mixes with the prefered soda of the drinker

@apiee6241

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lovecbabochekmy source is Wikipedia. "Trust me bro" Wikipedia told me that armata t14 was real too. And also that kenzhal was unstoppable. Lmao. You really need to get educated

I saw this in battlefield 2042 and didn’t think it was real until now.

F-35: you can’t run away from what you don’t know is there.

Doesn't matter how maneuverable your jet is if you only have like 12 of them

@Marcus_Sylvester

Жыл бұрын

Wire I have heard that they have only 6 of them...

@strangevideos3048

Жыл бұрын

You believe to your evil fake media 👌😂 From beginning of Ukraine war until now West destroyed 28 Russian Sukhoi.....You know nothing,America knoe nothing about Russia!

@Broski1318

Жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_Sylvester A very selective type, they are. These things are maneuverable, only when they have wings. AA takes a good amount of time to dish out damage to anyone within restricted airspace.

@itmandar

Жыл бұрын

also F-22 and F-35 can both do vectoring and they are at least as maneouverable.

@IronWolf_345

Жыл бұрын

They only have a few prototypes, not combat ready at all, the reason is… they’re unreliable and they can’t undertake the cost it would require to mass produce and maintain them. So, it’s essentially a show pony… or chicken, turkey? An ostrich! Anyway, whatever the case is.

Russians: “oh yeah? we can out maneuver you” *American BVR tech knows your location*

@Captain_Shadow10

Жыл бұрын

**Warning incoming missile** The alarm they’ll never hear before there hit

@marvinheemeyer5804

Жыл бұрын

​@@Captain_Shadow10not approved yet, my little patriot

@A_B_C__D

Жыл бұрын

American aircrafts are costly garbage.

@SBHighlander_74

Жыл бұрын

Russian: ok🙄 b4 u track my location eat my super sonic missiles

@Captain_Shadow10

Жыл бұрын

​@@SBHighlander_74 I am really confused, whats a B4?

Bro was drifting on all axis

Wow very cool loving the KZread algorithm right nowww

So THATS how they did the handbrake turns in Hot Shots! 🤣

@Acidburn3141

Жыл бұрын

You mean maverick

@TheLorax26827

Жыл бұрын

He does not

@dominicrichardson5546

Жыл бұрын

​@@Acidburn3141inferior film

@GuitarNerdDude

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@bthedude8735

Жыл бұрын

Part Deux!!

Russia: “I can out maneuver and take you out in a dogfight!” US: *Detects, locks, and fires a missile over the horizon.*

@infinitehexington

10 ай бұрын

as if Russia doesn't have a big thing about missiles, return to sender.

@fabioa.8008

10 ай бұрын

That's why, within 10 years, drones will completely substitute human pilots

@lepathewarrior4445

10 ай бұрын

​@@infinitehexingtonbro they can't even take down Ukraine's aviation and that's old soviet stuff, what do you think they can so against modern western stuff?

@infinitehexington

10 ай бұрын

@@lepathewarrior4445 aviation and missiles are two different things, idk why I have to explain this to you unless you're 12 that would sum it up.

@AnonD38

10 ай бұрын

@@infinitehexingtonWell even your "Russian Missiles Urra" haven’t taken out Ukrainian planes, so what’s the problem? If the Russians can‘t take down old soviet planes how do they even hope to shoot down F-22?

The problem with that engine tilting like that is that it's exposed to the outside and in turn it's not stealth that way it leaves a solid trace of heat.

USA: Air roll off Russia: All the air roll.

Now if only maneuverability mattered in a modern battlefield, this might actually be impressive.

@Ras_188

Жыл бұрын

In a dogfight it does

@ZackSavage

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ras_188dogfighting doesnt have a place on the modern battlefield. Hence the f35 red flag results.

@mariofan1ish

Жыл бұрын

@@Ras_188 We don't dogfight anymore. Today it's all about stealth, sensors, versatility, countermeasures, and getting the first shot off. The dogfight, as romantic as it is, has not been relevant since the day Tomcats shot down Russian-built planes in the Middle East without setting foot in the country, and the poor saps getting blasted apart having no idea what was happening.

@janus3555

Жыл бұрын

@@Ras_188 We don't dogfight anymore. You watch too many movies. Not since 30+ years ago was this a viable strategy. Everything is avionics (radar), structured com/VPRS, advanced weapon systems (in this case, A-A) that's well beyond the AIM-120C and AIM-9X and a few other disparities. - USAF 2W1 on F-16s, F-22s and F-35s

@Lovecbabochek

Жыл бұрын

Russian r37m range 400km speed 6 mach The longest-range missile in the US Air Force and Navy is the AIM-120D, with a range of 200 kilometers. Speed - Mach 4.5

We looked at this in the 80's. Even made an F18 with vectoring.

@otetechie

Жыл бұрын

The F22 has it.

@joncrowley8227

Жыл бұрын

That was the F-16 MATV (multi axis thrust vectoring) project with Lockheed Martin out of Ft Worth, TX in the mid to late 90s.

@3aster

Жыл бұрын

the russians make better jet and rocket engines though, even NASA bought from the russians before russia imposed sanctions on US and decided to stop delivering them

@charlesdriggers199

Жыл бұрын

@@joncrowley8227 I am telling you they did it on an F18. I saw it.

@charlesdriggers199

Жыл бұрын

@@3aster They may have at one point, butrthat is not today.

Kids: defend. Men: appreciate.

We have that technology too. But with stealth lol

US Military: Wow, so many capable people on youtube, lets hire them.

@urluelhurl

8 ай бұрын

US Military: Here's a 20 year contract!

@extrachannelyt6528

8 ай бұрын

and ukraine too, for hating russian jets for no fucking reason.

Almost none of that even matter anymore. Your ability to twirl in circles doesn’t help you from an unseen, distant enemy that can kill you from beyond your ability to scan up to 5 feet away

@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains

Жыл бұрын

Andddd f35 havent seen combats.

@mediaistheenemy

Жыл бұрын

@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains keep telling yourself that

@Rahul_Singh100

Жыл бұрын

You assume that's the only feature Russian fighter jets have.

@gargf8899

Жыл бұрын

​@@Rahul_Singh100You're right, they also have special landing operations (crashing)

@benghazi4216

Жыл бұрын

@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Israel has used the F35 to fly around Syria while striking things left and right, all over Russian made AA systems.

the f-22:🗿