Why Are Med School Lectures So Much Harder With ADHD?

In this video series, STATMed founder Ryan Orwig examines life as a doctor or medical student with ADHD. He outlines how ADHD affects your ability to study, take tests effectively, and manage your time. And he shares common patterns he's observed with ADHD-affected medical students and physicians.
Learning in med school starts with structure and organization. For many students, organizing facts and information from lectures or other sources is an automatic process. The information is obtained, filed away, and easy to retrieve later. But, that's not how it works for all med students. For example, many medical students with ADHD struggle with this type of learning.
So, if there's a breakdown between how the information comes in and your ability to retrieve it later, you're going to have a more difficult time using that information. One STATMed student explained it like this:
"I sit through hour after hour of lecture, trying to focus and hang on and internalize as much as I can. But by the end, I am just absolutely frustrated and worn out. And then when it is time to actually 'study' later that day, I feel like I'm starting from scratch. Except it's worse because it's so late in the day, and I am dead exhausted."

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  • @vans4lyf2013
    @vans4lyf20133 жыл бұрын

    Sigh this describes my life. Medical school was such a painful experience for me, for exactly the reasons you described. I went from being a top student in high school to having low level anxiety and low mood due to chronic procrastination and feeling constantly overwhelmed with the never ending volume of factoid information with seemingly no unifying links, that I had to learn at the last minute in order to pass exams in medical school. I wish I knew all this while in medical school so I could get the help I needed. I'm two years out of medical school and quit working as a doctor after the first year, went back to school to get a master's, and now experiencing the same problems with procrastination and constantly feeling overwhelmed by information. I think it's certain I have ADHD inattentive type and now I have an appointment with a clinical psychologist in a few months who can hopefully give me a diagnosis.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    So sorry to hear that was also your experience! Best wishes as you continue your education and seek out answers. Although our focus is predominantly medicine and medical fields, you may find some more helpful information in the other ADHD videos we've published this year.

  • @kai1363

    @kai1363

    3 жыл бұрын

    believe me when i said hoping alone isn't enough. you have to fight to get the diagnosis. it happened to me. do thorough research. try to remember and write down the stories you had throughout your life especially before age of 12 pertaining the symptoms of adhd.

  • @annan1012
    @annan10123 жыл бұрын

    im a single track learner. I've been juggling between doing overview and remembering the little details. when i do the latter, i get overwhelmed by informations and remembers nothing in the end. but when i do overview, i understood the lecture but flunked all my quizzes and exams.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    We hear similar situations all the time! You might be interested in checking out Navigating ADHD and Test-Taking as a Med School Student or Practicing Physician (kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2R5l9WbXc2enZM.html).

  • @rahuldabhi
    @rahuldabhi3 жыл бұрын

    Visual learning systems like Sketchy & Picmonic are helpful. Mind mapping software is helpful. Anki is a gem. Bad listeners must print out the transcripts of online lectures so that they don't have to pause a million times to take notes & get lost in it. Subscribe to lectures that are short. Lecturio is less popular but it helped me because I can print transcript & not have to multitask taking notes. I can't stress enough how much of a gamechanger it is for me. After 5-7 min of lectures (very short) I can get the big picture of where things are headed & get a few simple questions to solve that keep me on track & aware of things being taught. I am not a US med student & I know Lecturio is not that popular & doesn't cover much details either but hey it really helps me! After those lectures I am ready to tackle bigger beasts & diving into details. Anyways Anki & mind mapping are the best.

  • @sl5311
    @sl53112 жыл бұрын

    More and more it seems like we should just learn on our own rather than at someone else's pace, which isn't our pace or structure. Rather than all of this. Have the lecture on video and be able to back over it as many times as you need to to learn the material.

  • @thisisit4666
    @thisisit46663 жыл бұрын

    I was diagnosed with ADD a few weeks ago (by brain scan). This is the most practical and best studying video I’ve ever watched. New sub:) You deserve more views.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the feedback! Always glad to hear when a video is useful! If we can help, let us know!

  • @Jbkyr
    @Jbkyr3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I am Jasmine. I love your closet analogy, thats basically how I feel in medical school! So much info but I cant organize it.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you found it helpful! We dig more into organization strategies in some of our other videos and on our blog (statmedlearning.com/the-statmed-blog/). Please don't hesitate to reach out!

  • @sorchaoconnell4303
    @sorchaoconnell43033 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know I don't have ADHD, and I study engineering not medicine. However your video has summed up perfectly all the reasons I find college so hard that I couldn't express. I can get good grades but I am in third year and I feel as though I have had to self teach from scratch everyday. Please upload a video with more tips on how to cope with remote learning.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that it helped and thanks for the video suggestion!

  • @parleymanderson7527
    @parleymanderson75276 ай бұрын

    I’m more productive when reading textbook on my own. To me, the lecturers talk about things so slowing that it’s hard to focus.

  • @MsPaint1
    @MsPaint12 жыл бұрын

    Im dead thats exactly how my notes look

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    2 жыл бұрын

    You're definitely not alone in that!

  • @studyenglish9463
    @studyenglish94633 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! Thank you

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! So glad you liked it!

  • @user-ox7gs4zh2y
    @user-ox7gs4zh2y2 жыл бұрын

    hello i am adhd dental student from korea. it was really fantastic to watch this perfect video for med student with adhd. is there any way for koreans to take your methodology rebuild statmed class?

  • @geon-younghong7832
    @geon-younghong78322 жыл бұрын

    Are there courses from introductory to advanced ones about ADHD in medical schools in the U.S? I am Korean though I'm wondering if professors there generally get it and take it seriously. Well, unfortunately, it's indescribably aweful here.

  • @amberboening3448
    @amberboening34482 жыл бұрын

    Diagnosed with ADHD as an MS1and this video it me to a T, espically that sticky note wall.....

  • @Waves888
    @Waves8882 жыл бұрын

    its funny how you say adHd :D Always surprises me again

  • @MsGenXodus
    @MsGenXodus3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a med student, but do have ADHD. Listening to this makes me never want to go to the doctor again. I know how hard it is for me to perform very basic tasks, like getting to work on time. I can't imagine putting my life into someone's hands who has trouble with focus and maintaining attention. (Of course I know that not all med students work with patients after graduation) Would you be honest with your patients that you suffer from ADHD before treating them? To hide this information from your patients, I feel is morally questionable at best, and criminally negligent at worst. ETA: I thought the whole point of requiring people to go to med school before practicing (vs. apprenticeships) was to help those who can't cope with material to wash out of the program. A sort of natural selection of those who are capable vs. those who are not.

  • @statmedlearning9797

    @statmedlearning9797

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. ADHD manifests differently in different people. Over the years, we have worked with many, many medical students and doctors with ADHD who perform wonderfully and many others who simply need to determine ways to navigate their ADHD in this environment. Struggling to answer a boards style test because of the mechanics of the exam is very different than struggling because of a "knowledge miss." Additionally, people rarely take the time to teach smart students how to study. So, highly intelligent individuals could go their whole academic careers and struggle in medical school because of the speed x volume x density and begin to experience issues. But, once a system is in place to help mitigate that, it's a very different situation and many of our students with ADHD go on to thrive in their chosen professions. ADHD is highly individualistic and absolutely does not mean someone would not be an excellent physician or medical student.

  • @npoindexter2919

    @npoindexter2919

    3 жыл бұрын

    ADHDers can perform exceptionally well under pressure particularly in an area they are passionate about and when helping people - and can come up with creative solutions and problem solve outside of the box because they're brains are used to finding ways to avoid stagnation. And for those who struggle with testing, as with many things, success on tests does not necessarily mean capability in the workplace.

  • @meganhouse8233

    @meganhouse8233

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@npoindexter2919 this is so important!! People with ADHD do not have a disability, once they learn how to work with their different brain they are focused only on what they are passionate about and succeed in many different fields. Stimulant medications are the recommended treatment and if you cant cope with just coaching/therapy there are other options! People with ADHD do not struggle with medical school, people with untreated ADHD may but it depends on their presentation of the disorder.