hey dingleberry, you really should be wearing safety glasses while drilling and cutting that sheetmetal. you only have two eyes.

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right. Thanks for calling me out on it.

@tycobb8621

2 жыл бұрын

Dingleberry? What are you 12? 🙄😂

@RBS4658

2 жыл бұрын

No, I'm 8 and sleep hugging my teddy and have thumb in my mouth

@tycobb8621

2 жыл бұрын

@@RBS4658 I won’t argue with you 🤷🏼‍♂️

@sizzlacalunji

Жыл бұрын

@@RBS4658 😂

Thank you so much! After looking at the instructions for the little control unit I was feeling a little overwhelmed. I didn't want to put a hole in my house for the temperature sensor and I have no idea how to wire up that transformer it came with. Using a smart thermostat to control the humidifier is a much better system.

Thank you for drawing attention to the saddle valve. Plumbing is something I'm fairly ignorant about and I'd have happily punched a hole in my PEX. Instead I went to my local big box and picked up a pinch clamp tool, a 1-1-1/2" t, pinch rings, and a 1/2-1/4" sharkbite all for about $100. My neighbor paid like $800 for a "professional" installation. Now I have the tools and confidence for future plumbing projects. It's all possible thanks to DIY KZreadrs like you.

one of the best installation tips i seen

Great DIY install. Be sure to get it installed as level as possible or the unit will leak, The supply tray will leak if its not level for the most part. Use add a line valve and toss the saddle valve(you will thank me later)

Great job captain 👍

this help me a lot thank you so much

I like using that 1/4” vinyl hose for the water feed. Only thing you need to do for the saddle/ piercing valve is swap the brass sleeve for a nylon one

Excellent detailed video, just what I needed for my home install today. Thanx, cheers, mate...

thank you i'm looking into WHH's and considering doing it myself vs hiring someone. i have no experience with wiring so i might contract someone this part startled me 16:18

Great detailed video.

@ranmelk

5 ай бұрын

Also does you set the % of humidity on the ecobee or does it just always run with the flame/fan? Thank you

There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

That's probably true in 99.89% of circumstances. I can honestly say I haven't made it back to change it yet but it is still on the list.

thanks for this

I need one of these, my thermostat always reads 35% but I wake up with a dried nose every day. My furnace is probably the original from 88.

This is a great install but I would never do that much sheet-metal work without gloves. I have the scars to prove it!

I need to do this at home. I'd love to see the wiring diagram for this installation.

All of my duct is wrapped in insulation. This has made my job harder

They know what their doing in North America, I live in Eastern Europe and the have no clue what doing in concerns with Installation of this type of work.

I lost you at the saddle valve. 😢

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't blame you. Not going to lie, I haven't gotten around to changing it out yet. A tee with a valve is really the only good way to go on it. The saddle valve usually works fine up until the point you need to mess with it.

@HeavyInstinct

Жыл бұрын

I installed two of them when my home was built 27 years ago and have never had so much as a single drip. But yeah I'll just go ahead and disregard all the information in this video since he decided to use a saddle valve. 🙄

3/4 x 1/2 tee with a 1/2 x 1/4 angle stop is the best instead of those garage saddle valves

Nice clean install. Was wondering if you can set the amount of moisture with that Ecobee smart thermostat, or does it just an on/off control to the solenoid on the Aprilaire?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

I can set it to desired % humidity. I like this setup a lot.

7:42 did I miss seeing installing a seal between the duct work and humidifier?

Hey! Great video! Will installing this void any warranties? I am thinking of installing this in a 2022 house…

Curious to know where you got your info to have the ecobee control the humidifier. I'm looking to install one of these and I like the idea of the ecobee controlling it.

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

support.ecobee.com/hc/en-us/articles/360023859852-Troubleshooting-accessory-installations So what they are saying is if you want to use your existing transformer (power the humidifier directly from the thermostat) you use the 1 wire method and just connect to the acc+. If you have an external power supply for your humidifier, then you use the 2 wire method and the thermostat just acts as a relay to turn it on and off. Once the wires are connected just follow the steps for setup on your ecobee. I personally leave it in manual mode and adjust the humidity set point as needed. The biggest benefit to setting it through the ecobee is not needing to mount an additional control device somewhere.

I feel like I wired it up the same as you but I can’t get it to power on. Do you have a diagram of the wiring?

I have a defecultys to install it on the supply side, this will be sufficient if I Installed on the return side?

A saddle valve (piercing ?) a horizontal pipe will clog w sediment in a year.If you must use a horizontal run...drill a 1/4 in. hole in the side of the pipe.Humidifier should be on the return to by-pass.

Thank you for the Video. can you clarify something for me. in my scenario the solenoid valve is supplied 24V DC so i would need to hook up to the HSA 044 AC to DC converter? Secondly one of my wires going to my current humidistat(which i want to replace with my ecobee5C) is originating from the main furnace control board(white multiwire connector) then to the lowfirePS1 switch of my goodman furnace. I believe this is so the humidistat wont switch unless it gets power from the furnace which will only happen when it is on lowfire. Does the ecobee take this into account ie ecobee knows when the fan is running so will only send signal from acc+ when humidity is needed AND when fan is on? Thank you

Could you share a screenshot from your ecobee, the screen which shows active wirings. I did the same install but I'm having to wait for home humidity (rainy weekend here) to drop so it activates the water valve.

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Send me a message to sleepersftw@gmail.com and I will reply with the screenshot. I didn't see a way to add pictures in the comments or to the video without downloading the video, editing it in, and then uploading it with the changes.

Hi Ray, any suggestions for my setup, if I DO NOT have an accessory wire on my thermostat wire? , I only have 4 wires. Y(cool) , G(fan) , W1(heat) , Rh(power)

Safety glassesmight be a good idea, especially when cutting metal. Nice video. Was looking to see what you did w the outside thermometer. Eg, can you just add wires to the very short ones in the kit?

@DamnGoodITGuy

5 ай бұрын

I know this is a 2 year old comment but in case anyone is trading with the same idea, ecobee has outdoor temp built in (approximate, through Internet weather, but good enough for this).

Where location can I install humidifier 500m in supply air or return air thank you

What's that tool that you used to guide you cut the hole circle?

Just installed this today! Great video! Any issues you’ve come across since the install?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

No issues so far. It has been great for us!

@geomarzolf8608

2 жыл бұрын

He will when the saddle valve clogs up or leaks. Use an add a line valve and save the trouble later.

@greekmaster1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@geomarzolf8608 he said he is going to replace it its only temporary

I have a dumb question for you. If you have to flip the unit over for install, do you know if you can rotate the logo on the outside of the cover? My install would be flipped compared to yours and that would bug the crap out of me lol

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember right the logo snaps in so you can flip it.

Best

Will this unit work on fiberglass ductwork?

question sleepersFTW what is the tool you used t cut out circle for the duct work?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Klein Tools 89552 Hole Cutter, Adjustable Cutter from 2 to 12 Inch, Cuts 24 gauge Steel and 26 gauge Stainless www.amazon.com/dp/B07DLT79N8/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_60ZJ7EVP8SXK0VBXG4NB?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

is it possible to replace a leaking a saddle valve with a new one reusing the same spot/hole without making a new hole in the main copper pipe?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

I won't say it is impossible, but I wouldn't recommend it. To take it off and change it, the water up to that point needs to be off anyway so I would recommend installing a tee and a proper valve.

Does it matter what wire goes to a. Certain wire of the solenoid wires?

Question... I have the Ecobee thermostat. Does the acc+ only pass the 24 volts when the furnace is running and humidity is low? If it is only controlled by the Humidity it would engage the solenoid even when the fan is not running.

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

Once you have it connected, you set it up through the thermostat as a humidifier and it only turns it on when the blower is running and it senses the need for it.

@timothyhestand9439

3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw Thanks...

Normally I would be ok using a hole saw, or a uni-bit to start a hole for my tin snips, but I can't help but feel like all those metal shavings falling down into the heat exchanger in that location are a bad thing. You seem to understand this when you said you'd have to fish out the drop from your hole saw. Use a hammer and a screwdriver to start your hole. Also, I'm watching your video because while I'm familiar with HVAC duct work, I don't know how to install a humidifier. The first video I watched wasn't very good, but they made a good point. They didn't want to put the humidifier directly above the furnace in the plenum because water is going to hit the top of that supply and want to run back down into the heat exchanger. You did exactly what they said not to do. Thoughts? You're going to have a hard time "leveling" your humidifer when you're attaching to a point in the duct with a cross break. That "humidifer pad" is obviously a filter of some type, but I can see other video suggestions on the right hand side of the youtube page calling them a pad as well for some reason. I don't understand why the return is tied into it. I'm not saying you're wrong. I assume you're following the directions. I just wish I knew the explanation. Why would you want unfiltered air going back into the humidifier. That explains the filter in the humidifier though, but I wonder how much Aprilaire charges for replacements, or who thinks to change them. The other video I watched previously didn't show a tie-in to the return duct. Those "hole cutters" are close to $80. Again, use snips. And unfortunately you lost me on the electrical install, so I didn't bother with the rest of the video.

@sleepersftw

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point about the shavings. Anything that can be done to minimize them is a good idea. As for placement and the duct from the humidifier to the return as well as filter vs pad. This is a bypass humidifier so this requires positive air pressure from the supply to pass through the humidifier pad and then flow into the lower pressure of the return carrying that moisture it picked up from the humidifier pad with it. It could be also be mounted on the return with a duct coming from the supply to it which would be a safer install in the event there was ever a failure that allowed water to overflow into the ductwork. The humidifier you saw that didn't have this additional duct would be a type of powered humidifier that doesn't use the systems air flow to travel through the humidifier.

@Theopheus

Жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw Thank you for the explanation and the quick reply. This explains why I just saw another video where they routed it opposite you did.

Is that the return side or supply side ?

You didn't show wiring the water valve with the two yellow wires. Is it polarity sensitive?

@sleepersftw

Жыл бұрын

It is not polarity sensitive.

Anyone know if the ecobee 3 Lite can run an Aprilaire humidifier? or do you need the regular ecobee smart thermostat?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone own the Lite that could chime in?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but looking at just the wiring diagram from the installation manual, the lite doesn't appear to have the proper terminals in order to connect and control a humidifier.

I believe I have the same unit , I keep seeing videos where it's install the return side , I just built nice plenum, and hate to cut a huge square out , rather use for the bypass .. what the Recommended way ? .. i seen in the diagram you showed , in the fine print above saying either one is fine in a forced air system, Pros and cons .. any hvac pros out there feel free to answer

@sleepersftw

Жыл бұрын

Mounting it on the return side will keep water from running down into the electric in your furnace if there should ever be a failure. It isn't something I thought about when I installed this one, but if I did it over I would change that.

@davidfrisch5538

Жыл бұрын

@sleepersFTW okay that's a good reason , thank you , very helpful video too thanks for taking the time to record it

where is the control panel/sensor installed?

Ummm how do you wire the solenoid?

@jasonc5709

2 жыл бұрын

@13:55

would a jigsaw cut better or is it too dangerous to get metal dust inside

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. The hole cutter I used creates a lot of chips too. The cleanest way is to make a pilot hole and then cut it out using tin snips.

@drewspinoso4849

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw - My other concern: Why can't I hook a fan up to the humidifier. Seems more efficient! I called Aprilair and they just said to buy their 700. While that one seems nice it doesn't fit. My bigger question would be how many CFM should the fan be. Carrier wouldn't tell me of course.

Are saddle valves still up to code in that area?

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know the answer to that to be honest. Our county uses 2015 IPC , I'm not sure if they are prohibited or not. I haven't replaced it with a proper tee and valve yet, but that is my intention along with the existing saddle for our ice maker line. Allowed or not, they are junk and it is just a matter of time before they start to leak.

@BetterCallBilal_2

3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw yeah, inspectors hate those things.

@BetterCallBilal_2

3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw For real thou, good video. I have trouble setting these things up. I need to integrate an Aprilaire 500M Humidifier to an Ecobee5. I will send this video to my tech.

I bought a Honeywell. Are they problematic? Should I return and get an Aprilaire?

@sleepersftw

3 жыл бұрын

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there's much difference between them so I see no need to return it.

@ryanbean6965

2 жыл бұрын

The water solenoid valve is problematic from what I’ve read

is he running to the Hot or Cold water ??

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

Hot water. It will work either way, but hot water will work better.

How much installation charge

You didn't use the control that came with it?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

I did not. Since my ecobee smart thermostat already had the ability to control it, there was no need for it. If you don't have a thermostat that has the ability to control it, then you will need to use the included humidistat.

@greekmaster1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@sleepersftw do you know if the nest 3rd generation works with it? And if yes I need a 7 wire?

@sleepersftw

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the nest should work just fine. You'll need 1 more wire than your thermostat uses currently i would think. I see no reason you can't connect the other side of the solenoid valve to common at your furnace. The manual for your thermostat should show you which terminal to use for your humidifier.

Every install I've seen in person, they tied into the cold side. The last 2 videos, on the hot side. Makes more sense to me to install on the hot side 🤷

@louiemoscatel585

2 жыл бұрын

Not for me. That humidifier leaks onto your heat exchanger you'll be replacing your furnace once it rusts out. Humidifiers can be installed on either plenum.

Why to the hot water supply ??

@sleepersftw

Жыл бұрын

Hot water is absorbed into the air more efficiently and it has less of a cooling effect on the air that your furnace has already heated.

Saddle valve eh?

You installed the humidifier backwards, it goes on the drop. The way you put it. The water will drip on heat exchanger causing it to rust.

Wear gloves and glasses when doing this work people.

You should be wearing gloves

Wong, wrong, wrong. A bi-pass humidifier goes on the return! Don’t show this anymore. !!!!

@sleepersftw

Жыл бұрын

You mind pointing out in the installation manual where it states that?

@airplaneguru84

8 ай бұрын

No, you are wrong. The instructions say can mount on the supply OR return.