Aprilaire 600M Humidifier Installation Walkthrough
We bought an Aprilaire 600M whole house humidifier for our furnace recently and filmed the unboxing and review of the unit. This is the third video in the three part series that I posted. Here I actually install the whole house humidifier and do a brief walkthrough on the install process. I go over how to use the templates, where to cut out holes, the wiring, self-piercing saddle valve, ducting, etc. Then I show an example of the completed result and how it works. Hope you find this video helpful! And if you do decide to put one of these in yourself, it would be nice if you have some previous experience in this kind of thing otherwise it will be pretty tough.
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This was the only video with wiring that worked for my scenario. I bought the Aprilaire 700M as a replacement. Wouldn’t work until I watched this vid. Thanks!
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NEVER USE A "saddle valve"... EVER! Always cut in a "TEE" CONNECTION WITH A PROPER 1/2" X 1/4" ISOLATION SHUT OFF VALVE. Also, please use either a 1/4" braided water supply line or soft copper line for the purposes of the water supply connections. Thru that piece of sh** plastic piping that comes with the unit away, cause you will have a leak. That 1/4" plastic crap has zero schedule and or wall thickness to it. You'll thank me later.
@landsea7332
Жыл бұрын
I hope people follow your advise - never install a " saddle value " Are these even allowed under building code ? . Also , its probably best to install a 90 elbow coming off the Plenum - and then connect the flex stuff to it . This elbow should be installed above the A/C coil . .
@paramountHVAC
4 ай бұрын
I can't even get that insert to go in the plastic pipe. My boss doesn't want to use copper he says it's expensive, so I go to the job site and struggle for an hour to put that insert in the plastic pipe. Now, which one is expensive?
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This video was great and helped me a ton with my install. The only thing I would suggest is not using the saddle valve. Under almost every state it is no up to code to use them. That and they have a tendency to leak and corrode. For $7 at a Lowe's or Home Depot you can get a connector valve that will do the trick and do it better. Thank you! Have a great day!
@willarellano5869
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree saddle valves always end up leaking
@mpxz999
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I'd suggest an angled turn ball valve with a 1/4" output. An icemaker box connected to a nearby stud is a clean way of doing it imo
Wow what installation. When cut put the return duct you can cut it so that when u bend the duct out it will be flat so no air leak. Need a collar for sure.
Thanks for the video. I bought a house 3 years ago and have replaced the transformer and solenoid but the humidifier still wasn't working right. After watching your video I realized the wiring wasn't right. Fixed it and it's working great. Thanks!
Beautiful video, 120/24 vdc transformer, relay, solenoid coil and thermostat are all connected in series and relay/ thermostat are the two switches that activates the humidifier.
U should of use a start collar on the supply plenium
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
I agree! I forgot to buy one. Later I did get a start collar.
Can you do a video showing us how we have to wire the humidifier please 🙏
A damper on the humidifier duct is important for the summer time. Prevents A/C short cycling.
@kurtzimmerman1637
5 жыл бұрын
Keeps the humidifier cool.
@Gus11445
Жыл бұрын
It's built into the bypass humidifier. Right on the side.
excellent and simple explanation. no violent camera shaking - very much appreciated.
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Wiring the Current sensing relay (switch) to the blower motor wire corresponding to the Heat Mode is better than just the Neutral (white); this prevents the Humidifier from running on Cool and Heat modes, especially if Humidistat becomes inaccurate. Normally the blower motor wires corresponding to Heat mode are the lower speed ones, such as Red (low), Blue (med,high), Orange (low/med).
@guyrabinowitz
2 жыл бұрын
You capitalized many words incorrectly, and it makes no sense why you did it.
@matthanlon3511
2 жыл бұрын
@@guyrabinowitz I CAP EVERYTHING... EASY TO READ ..LESS CORRECTING
@guyrabinowitz
2 жыл бұрын
@@matthanlon3511 All caps in writing are not easier to read because most readers are not accustomed to reading that style.
I'm just here to see how many 'experts' complain about the saddle valve. I was not disappointed. Must be the same people that complain about crimp connections on car audio and security videos.
I am so lost how to wire this. In line with the many kind recommendations on here, I did have mine installed by an HVAC pro and it was never wired correctly. My humidifier runs opposite of what it should... only on when the furnace blower is OFF and then turns back on when the blower shuts off. I am now in the process of rewiring it myself. It never had the current sensing relay on it so I bought one of those but I cannot figure out how to properly wire this circuit. For the record, I have a Harman central pellet furnace so it does not have modern style circuit board with a HUM option.
Start collar for flex duct? Hmmm… Figured out the knockout plug has to actually be removed, eh? Good video
I'm an hvac installer. Watched for a refresher. Good video 👍
Never tried a whole house humidifier. But, I have tried portables. Forget it! They are only good if you put one about 2 foot from where you are sleeping!! I tried 2 of the best in a 2,100 sg. ft house and unless you are right under one the humidity is 21%. Location southwest NM , 7,200 ft. alt., mountains. winter and gas heat. Max humidity with cool mist flowing over the hygrometer is only 38% !! With portables, that will have to do.
didn't see any wire coming out of the humidistat control. Doesn't there have to be some?
Thanks, great video, really helped with my install. I did not use the saddle valve after reading the comments.
Thanks , step by step good video. Learning is not complicated, but it is not easy. Thanks again.
Gloves dude! A sheetmetal cut can be NASTY!
@johnanton2713
3 жыл бұрын
gloves are good. but sheet metal will cut thru them too. I guess I've been lucky. I'VE ONLY had a few serious cuts requiring stitches. BUT even if I'D BEEN wearing gloves I would still have been badly cut. MY POINT IS EVEN WITH THE BEST PREVENTION SOMETHING UNFORESEEN CAN HAPPEN. I dont use gloves. Around here few hvac guys do.
I'm going to be doing this to my furnace soon, I understand you can mount it on either supply or return. But I think mounting it on the supply side will give you a better flow since the opening is larger
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest reading through the comments in this video. There are many helpful suggestions and there are things I could have done better. Good luck!
@globalguy5217
3 жыл бұрын
you are right
@SixTreyPro4200
Жыл бұрын
Ideally its on the supply and drawing from the hot water, cold side works. If mounted on the return it MUST draw from the hot water due to the heat exchanger in the furnace killing the humidity as the air passes through to your supply, you wont ever reach desired humidity
@ctlt-pg4tm
10 ай бұрын
My old one was mounted to the return plenum but then had a round duct going over to the supply plenum above the A coil. Is that correct ?@@SixTreyPro4200
@charlesbent2947
8 ай бұрын
Hot water is preferable for humidity, although I've seen hot water defect the solenoid from opening way too often. Kinda depends on the municipal water supply and your location. @@SixTreyPro4200
Man I was cringing on him cutting the first piece out
@themissingrick
3 жыл бұрын
wtf
@jordancramer8251
3 жыл бұрын
that was so bad man. My first week in the field I wasnt that trash
@sucdeeznuts1907
Жыл бұрын
Kid really didn't even use a start collar
Thank you! Until I saw this video, I was having a problem understanding the humidistat wiring. But looks like you cleared that up for me. Good, clear, and patient video.
@WordofAdviceTV
6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! :)
Looks good. Keep an eye on that drain line running across the top of the furnace. A leak at the humidifier would follow the line down toward the furnace. White Rogers circuit boards aren't cheap.
@garyjarrell2804
3 жыл бұрын
Looks good? WTF IS THIS TRASH,,,,!
Need a uni a bit and midwest snips
On April air video it shows mounting the filter on the heat supply side not the return side
How much water should be draining out the bottom? Yours looks similar to mine but it seems like a waste.
Question about wiring. I deal with new furnaces so i wire the humidfier with r and w so it runs on call for heat... anyways.. so i run the 24v power (2 wire) to the humidistat, and then another 2 wire from humidistat to the solenoid?
Thanks for this video, I live in Chicago area and I just got an estimate for the humidifier, the installer suggested a bypass large whole house humidifier made by Bryant, my main concern is knowing what is the right kind of humidifier, bypass or motorized to install any advice would be very much appreciated, thank you, And my house is 2500 square-foot, and currently the humidity is in the low 20s without the humidifier which I feel is very low
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
20% is pretty low. A whole house humidifier would make a noticeable difference. The main difference between motorized and bypass is the bypass itself. That extra piece of ducting takes up more room and that really is the one con (which I think isn't a big deal). They both do the same thing, though the motorized one is supposedly a little more efficient since it has its own blower fan. The 2 cons to the motorized one is that it costs more and it has more parts in it that could fail, costing you more in maintenance.. I personally would go with a bypass humidifier. Like grandma used to say though: different strokes, for different folks. The decision is yours to make ;) Good luck!
@joeperezic6625
6 жыл бұрын
ashish batra q
@closmurda
6 жыл бұрын
Bypass is intended to be mounted on the return side. Motorized on the supply.
Was looking for which ducting (on the intake/return vs outflow/blower) the Aprilaire box goes on, and where the humid air should be going into (on the intake/return vs outflow/blower). My house has one installed and it looks weird: the aprilaire box is on the outflow/blower, and the bypass is into the intake/return which goes thru the air filter. Weird: 1) coz the moist air goes thru the air filter - the moisture will get on the air filter. 2) Moist air will go thru the furnace! Why! 3) Inefficient coz the air is just cycling between the outflow and inflow. I have closed the flap leaving just 10% open to minimize this). Overall this setup is not making any sense. Agree moisture is getting into the outflow, I can feel it coz I do not get a dry nose. Why can't a bypass be entirely on the outflow, it needs a different routing.bypassing of the hot air thru the aprilair box and back into the outflow.
Step 1, install saddle valve in the trash where it belongs. Step 2, install flexible 6" duct in the trash where it belongs. Step 3, Get proper materials or call a professional.
@SirHTMLguy
5 жыл бұрын
Cant you tell by his crisp clean cuts he IS a professional?
@abdulhai93
Жыл бұрын
@@SirHTMLguy saddle valve fail. Had one on my copper pipes, and it began leaking after few years
Even though comes with a piercing valve you should never use them because over time they will fail. You should sweat in a valve or you special compression fitting that they sell in the supply house
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Though if you do not open and close the piercing valve but always leave it opened up, you shouldn't have a problem with it sticking or leaking. I will just leave it open and not shut it at all. If it ever starts leaking or something I suppose I will have to sweat in a ball valve or something.
@sydneywatts9385
6 жыл бұрын
Good advice saddle valves are not code approved any longer but that doesn’t prevent them from being installed.
@jayrenner7565
6 жыл бұрын
I am 100% in agreement with you here. Typically they are installed right above the water tank and leak directly into the fiberglass insulation. I killed a fairly new water heater because of a leak.
@brandx35
6 жыл бұрын
Total agreement. An off the 1/4" plastic tubing too and run 1/4 copper tubing.
@broken1965
5 жыл бұрын
Had them for 30years buy good plumbing parts never had a leak but dont bury one in the wall or ceiling
we connected our humidistat to the circuit board on the furnace and it burned it out. apparently the previous home owner did not install a transformer. so now we purchased a new circuit board hopefully we can get the furnace to power back on. we will go back to your video to correctly install the humidifier when we buy the transformer
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
Oh yikes! Yes, you need to be careful about that... Make sure you do the wiring right. There's a difference between 24 volts and 120 volts. If it fried the control board in the furnace, I wonder if the thermostat got fried as well.. If you have the same humidifier as I had in the video, that is all 24v. That's why the kit comes with a 120v to 24v transformer. There should also be a wiring diagram that shows you how to properly wire it. In the video I don't spend too much time explaining.. But anyway, good luck! Hopefully there will be no more misadventures!
@pineychristian
5 жыл бұрын
@@WordofAdviceTV they probably used the low voltage from their furnace. They said they connected directly to the circuit board which the voltage on those terminals are stepped down. The reason they give an transformer because most systems factory transformer does not carry enough low voltage to handle a large secondary low voltage load. They also could have installed a 3amp fuse just incase they hooked up wrong so fuse would blow and not transformer. The main circuit board will blow if you steal too much low voltage trying to power something else.
@carltravis8734
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely priceless video. Especially the wiring section. Thanks you so much! Installed exactly how you described and it worked like a charm.. bravo
I’m not saying your wrong but that’s the first I’ve ever heard of putting the Sattle valve on the hot water side. I’m going to have to do looking into that.
@WordofAdviceTV
4 жыл бұрын
In this video I did plenty of things that I could have done better or used a better part for. I guess this would be classified as the cheap way of putting in a humidifier. But about the saddle valve, most of the guys I know put it on the hot water side. The reason behind that is that warm/hot water will evaporate a lot faster than cool water. Since we are trying to add humidity to the air, having the water evaporate faster is good. That's what I was taught anyway. Let me know if you find out something else though.
@HVACingMyWay
4 жыл бұрын
That makes since. I guess everyone has there own way. There’s more then one way to do a lot of things it just depends on who taught ya I guess.
@WordofAdviceTV
4 жыл бұрын
@@HVACingMyWay With HVAC there is usually more than one way to do it and there is more than one name for parts. Thanks for commenting!
He made that more difficult than it needed to be.
@WordofAdviceTV
6 жыл бұрын
Probably so. But please do share with us what can be done faster and more efficient, I am sure the viewers will thank you! :)
@WirelessHotShot
6 жыл бұрын
He made it seem extremely simple and very clean. No wires hanging around, etc. Great install. Made me more confident in installing one myself!
Thank you I can see that you connected to the return side, its make difference if you are connected to the supply side?
This video is great overview of the steps needed to install a whole home humidifier...but the installation seems a little sloppy
Seeing what little room you had, I would have gone with a motorized unit. It would have given this a more professional and finished look. Also, that tilted plenum houses the AC evaporation coils and you can never install a humidifier there since it is insulated. I would move the drain line off of any heated surfaces too. Not too wild about flex pipe, but that is my view only. I have installed two of these (550 and a 360) and the motorized versions are now the only way I would go from here on out. I hope it worked well for you. I will be installing a 700 this week in my new HVAC unit.
are these water efficient? do they end up wasting a lot of water? I have to watch my water bill...
@smokey3829
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same concern. The whole house drum style humidifiers do not waste any water. But, I’ve also heard drum style is “old school.” Why is wasting water “new school”? SMH
Random question have you ever ran across a geothermal furnace? I had a buddy of mine tell me he wanted to install a humidifier to his furnace and when I got their I ran into a geothermal furnace. This was the first time I have ever seen that system, so I told him I would much rather not even mess with it .
Talented young man. Thank you.
@garyjarrell2804
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously?
do you guys recommend doing duct cleaning first before installing this? I just completed entire house renovations
I’m contemplating on installing the water saver model Apr 400 with backup drain. Its approximately a savings of a dozen toilet flushes a day :) Trying to understand the mechanics of it, meaning how the dual floats work, relative to the sensing and water valve.
@pineychristian
5 жыл бұрын
400m and 400a is a drainless humidifier. One float detects how much water is needed inside the tray the other float is a safety float to shut water valve off. The drain at bottom is just an overflow drain. The water panel is recommended from Aprilaire to replaced 2 times a season. This is my favorite humidifier cause it saves water. It only fills and use what it needs vs dumping a constant flow of water across the water panel everytime the humidifier comes on.
@pineychristian
5 жыл бұрын
Please do not install your humidifier the way this guy did. Use copper tubing and ditch the saddle valve. They fail regardless if you use shut it or open a lot. Use a ball valve plumbed into your water heater. If humidifier is going to run off humidistat without a call for heat from unit then you need to use hot water. You can use cold water to a by pass humidifier. It may be a little more efficient with hot. It won't make that big of a difference. Forced fan humidifiers require hot water only to them
@brianmutascio8325
5 жыл бұрын
@@pineychristian , Thankyou for the technical details on the model 400. I feel confident that the 400 will get installed correctly, now that I understand what each float function does. And, a special Thanks to “ Word of Advice TV “ for his fantastic video. I will improvise with improved materials, like using cu tubing, and ball valve, and if possible, I may use standard duct connections, instead of what the manufacture provides in the box. Again, well appreciated !!!
Where are you mounting the humidifier on which duct intake air or outgoing air . You don't show any step too fast
Very good video, it's now 2022 would you recommend a different unit?
Tech, can you make a video about conection DEHUMIDIFIER APRIL AIR HONNYWELL 120 OR PLUS
Could you eliminate the sensing relay and transformer by wiring it to w and common, that way it only comes on with a call for heat?
I’m attempting to install my controller. I’m not sure which screw contact is negative and positive. All they say is NC and NO….?
Thank you.
Saddle valves NOT approved under the International Residential Code (IRC) and a good way to fail building inspections (or to have future leaks).
was the cutting bit going backwards @ 3:50??
Hi, looks like this unit not consuming 100% of the water as we see water running down in the drain hose while the unit is in operation. I have a similar humidifier and there's always water coming down the drain....
Can you do a video on zone valve dampers and how to wire them?
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
I don't typically work on those but if the opportunity comes up, I will try to make a video on that. Thank you for the suggestion!
Reason, why needling valve will be installed at hot side instead of cold side.
@WordofAdviceTV
6 жыл бұрын
You could do either side. The hot side is just recommended since it evaporates faster
@reubyncarter4793
3 жыл бұрын
@@WordofAdviceTV Wouldn't the cold side keep the solenoid from overheating?
Any issues with the polyethylene tubing in the past 2 years since your install? Most say PE tubing is not to be used with hot water, and the Aprilaire instructions call for copper piping.
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
Everything good so far. I know people who had the plastic tubing for 15+ years and all was good.
@def__init
5 жыл бұрын
My polyethylene tubing just blew - complete disaster
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
@@def__init Yikes! Sorry to hear that. Do you know how old the tubing was? Was there something that caused the rupture (maybe it was touching a hot exhaust pipe) or it just randomly burst?
@paulb41
3 жыл бұрын
Saddle valves are illegal plumbing fittings. You should only use copper tubing. Hot water side is not recommended because of the changes to the water during heating. Cold water is preferred.
@reubyncarter4793
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulb41 where are saddle valves illegal?
Why didn't you use an airtight duct take-off with your flexible duct work?
I have never used the supplied pvc hose because I can't get the insert in. How did you get the insert in?
You should have bought the step down template for narrow return duct
@russhanedawkins8761
Жыл бұрын
Where could I buy one of those? Any link? Thx!
Can a humidifier be installed in an heater that is in an unheated attic space where there is no water supply?
@gabrielsastre5995
3 жыл бұрын
No
I would never hook up a humidifier too a supply I always go to the return water in the heat exchanger never sounds good to me
I need to replace an old 445. with the 400M. The old one was powered from a standard 120 outlet that was controlled by when the blower motor was on. Can I just put a plugin 24VAC transformer into that blower fan controlled outlet? Or NO I need the current sensing relay?
@gamshaft
4 жыл бұрын
It seems nit. So i inatalled the Transformer on anither live source and used the current sensing module.
Does it matter if its installed in the return? Or it must be on top of the burners box.
You think this would work with a tankless water heater? i have a navian and worried there would not be enough of hot water demand to get hot water flowing to the humidifier.
@WordofAdviceTV
4 жыл бұрын
I know technicians that install the water valve on the cold water and it works fine that way too. That would take care of that problem.
Aprilaire shows that it should go over the coils, not on the return air side. Does it matter?
My old transformer is wired to the blower circuit Can I leave it like that when I replace the humidifier to an aprilaire 600m? Or does the transformer need to have constant 110v power
nevermind, I see now that the wire was placed later in the video
Saddle valves are not allowed in most most of all municipalities you need to install an angle stop .
@SovereignTroll
3 жыл бұрын
Saddle valves violate the IRC everywhere!
Jay great video!, as always. Did the current sensing relay come with the unit? Thanks
@WordofAdviceTV
2 жыл бұрын
No, I ordered that separately 👍
What do you do if you need to replace the old humidifier and the duct connection on the new humidifier is on the opposite side?
Awesome job
The job you did is good, but you have to get rid of the copper pipe on the gas line.
@kurtzimmerman1637
5 жыл бұрын
Type L copper is approved by the international mechanical code, national fuel gas code , AGA and GAMA, and the appliance manufacturers. Perfectly safe practice.
Theirs a power port on board for power to the transformer. Just sayin.
Qualified guide and clear explanation. Like (subscribed already)! Thank you.
I have the same model installed last year and somehow this year it doesn't water the filter anymore. it is set to high but still, there is no water coming making the air very dry. Any advice on how to fix it?
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
Is the water turned off to it by chance? If you take apart the nuts from either end of the water solenoid (don't forget to turn off water to humidifier) there should be a screen on one of them. Sometimes that gets plugged. If you have a meter, when you turn up the humidistat, check the two wires going to the water inlet valve. Is it getting 24v? If it is but it's not opening then that valve is probably bad.
Can someone help me with the wiring. He shows that his red wire ties in with the current sensing rely and then Im assuming he ties the white one in to the other side? What two wires go to the controller and water valve then??
I do enjoy your videos but I have one question, on the Aprilaire site, I have seen the installation shows the unit being put on the hot side not the return. Is that acceptable and does that affect it's performance?
@clintmurdock119
Жыл бұрын
yes it does, more humidity when its on the supply because that air is very hot
Can the humidifier be turned ON either with heater or a/c? If I want to turn ON only humidifier, should I buy the motorized humidifier?
@WordofAdviceTV
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the question! The humidifier is only used with the heater. You turn it off during summer. The air conditioner's main purpose is to de-humidify so if the humidifier was on they would be battling each other. About running ONLY the whole house humidifier, that is only possible if you set your fan setting on the thermostat to ON. The wiring may change a bit too. Many times it is wired to come on when the heater comes on. You would need it to be wired to come on when the fan comes on.
@pineychristian
5 жыл бұрын
Takla3210 A fan powered humidifier should only be installed on upflow configurations systems like in this video. This is directly from Aprilaire due to loss of capacity in a horizontal system. Powered fan humidifiers cost more and usually the motor breaks in time plus the molex plug wears out from taking off panel to change water panel. I would recommend a by pass humidifier and 400 or 400A is a great option cause save your water. Unless your house is huge like over 3500 sq ft then you would need to go to a steam humidifier. Which is a completely different ball game. Way more money and a lot more maintenance
Super helpful video, but you need to work on your sheet metal cutting broooo
My humidifier receives hot water, is that ok?
why not to use grinder or dremmel tool to cut sheet metal. Snippets make it so messy and dangerous job
It is Winter cold in Mi. I have this. Would I get more humidity in our house if I set the furnace thermostat from Auto to Circ?
@joehernandez8208
4 жыл бұрын
Barbara Hookway depends how it’s wired. Designed to come on when thermostat calls for heat.
@joehernandez8208
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this guy is a professional or diy but not Avery neat install. Flexduct is horrible. Most newer furnaces have humidifier terminals so hardwiring transformer not needed. Also you run COLD water through them. Most say in the instructions do not tie to hot water line. Good luck.
The clear vinyl tubing should be away from the flue pipe
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out. The drain line should be away from any flue pipes. Mine is touching the plenum and about 2 inches from the furnace flue. So far so good. ;)
Why is it hooked to the hot water pipe? Just was wondering
Are you sure you made that rose out of sheet metal. How you just showed cutting out the panel seemed painful. Lol
Heck of an installation and excellent video. Great job!
@sarawilliams1001
6 жыл бұрын
T D I ‘
Why did you wire into a current sensor relay? I don’t see any mention about that needing to be wired in to function.
@chadgoodell6373
3 жыл бұрын
If you have a manual ‘stat then it is required so the humidifier doesn’t constantly run. It makes it so the humidifier only runs while the blower is running. This is especially necessary in older or alternative furnaces that do not have a “HUM” function on the circuit board.
Do you need to drain the water in the plumbing before you replace the saddle valve? Mine is stuck and I need to put a new saddle valve on.
@scundoorsup5342
Жыл бұрын
Saddle valves are complete DIY GARBAGE ! Cut in a tee with 1/4 inch fitting in existing copper pipe . Trust me you will have mega problems ,not to mention leaks when you are not home
Do we connect water supply from hot water line?
Do you need to strip neutral wire that is going through relay?
@WordofAdviceTV
5 жыл бұрын
No, the neutral wire does not get cut or stripped.
Great video. Wish I watched it sooner haha. Any suggestions on how to make the duct fit into the actual unit? I've ripped it 3 times trying to get the '6" duct' (maybe metric.../s) into the aprilaire unit. Did you cut flaps similarly to the ones you did for the plenum side ? Thanks !
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
Yes. If i remember right I only did 1-3 deeper cuts so that I could overlap the duct edge. That way it can actually slide in there. Cramming it in usually doesn't turn out pretty heh.
@Gus11445
Жыл бұрын
If you use hard pipe 6" it slides right in and you put one screw in to hold it.
did u isntall it on the return ?
Great video. PLEASE work on your cutting. My god there are WAY to many fish hooks! lol
@WordofAdviceTV
8 ай бұрын
Lol I can only agree. This was a terrible job. I dont delete the video since it still does show the whole process from start to finish which i think is helpful. All the mistakes are pointed out in the comments so hopefully people read those. Nowadays I use a grinder to cut out a very clean hole. 😅
How is your water bill these days?
How well does this actually work? Since it only works when the heater is on
@TheSighphiguy
Жыл бұрын
yup. poorly, as ive recently discovered in my brand new heat pump/ac installation.
I have a humidifer digital, can i install it manually?
I moved into a house, with an Aprilaire 550 humidifier. Its attached to the heater itself, not the supply duct. Anyway, even with the unit turned up to max, it doesn't seem to increase the humidity at all! Even tried replacing the water panel. Seems like it just wastes water, and does not humidify the house, at all. I have digital humidity meter, and it shows no increase of the humidity in my home. I want to remove the unit, and cover up the holes on the furnace. I guess it's not the correct type unit for this 2 story house. Any suggestions before I remove the unit?
@WordofAdviceTV
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that! I apologize for not answering earlier, I was out of town without my laptop. I did not quite understand where the humidifier is... Is there literally a hole cut in the furnace shell/case/cabinet? Where the humidifier mounts into. Or is it in the supply plenum that is above the furnace? You probably already checked this but just to make sure... Did you verify that the water is flowing down the panel and going down the drain hose? Is the winter/summer damper in the winter(open) position? What relative humidity percentage was your digital meter reading? RH % Do you remember approximately what the outside temperature was?
Holy cripes ... it's really not a "condensate" line, is it? I didn't realize these things waste so much water!
Advice from Fine Home Building, a bible for all things correct in building practice: "...you can't install a powered humidifier on the return. I never recommend even bypass types, because of some of the moisture issues listed below. The cooler return air will simply not hold as much water. Most of the water supplied to the unit will trickle down the matrix and down the drain. Say the return is 65 and the supply is 100. At 60% rh, the supply will "hold" over three times the amount of moisture (in well controlled commercial systems, the duct humidity is limited to 60% rh for practical and wetting reasons). You will wet the filters on a regular basis and most likely the fan and blower compartment and also the fan timer (otherwise known as the control board). The blower could tolerate a little moisture but the electronics and the filters will not do well getting wet(ted)." --This video shows the humidifier being installed on the return duct. Dont' do that.
@guitarded82
4 жыл бұрын
Hate to inform you, but who ever gave you this advice doesn’t really know what the hell they’re talking about. Powered humis can absolutely be installed on the drop. All that humidity is making it’s way back through the furnace anyways. Aprilaire even suggests return drop installation. Been doing it that way for a while now, always works very well.