Watching this learning about rodrigo Borgia from Assassins Creed 2 and learning about the whole family in Assassins Creed Brotherhood

Because of this video, I am now watching the show on Netflix. Thank you so much for all of your videos. I have learned so much since finding your channel. Please continue the good work.

I better get busy, because I've got a lot of work to do in order to watch all of your videos - which I hope to do. I would say you are a good teacher but you already know that because of all the feedback you get. OK, I'll just say that personally, I can tell from your voice that you take pride in doing an excellent job. keep it going

I was so waiting for a new video from you! Thank you so much for uploading! I truly appreciate your work!

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the encouragement! :)

Awesome! So glad for a new video! Thanks!

Dr Reeves, your videos are the best!

I'm from Brazil and never heard about Alexander VI in the history classes about the treaty of tordesillas. Mind blown. Great vids. Thanks for sharing knowledge.

Bless! Love history videos, and love the Borgia family! Well done!

yeah, it's been a long time... thanks for coming back! I like the longer format videos, the longer the better ) also, with the 500 year anniversary of the Reformation coming up, I would really love in depth lectures on the causes of the Reformation. I remember my professor talking about the nationalistic and economic factors behind the Reformation

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! On the Reformation, if you go to my Playlists, you'll find tons of that both in the Reformation to Modern course and in the Luther-Calvin one. The first one is detailed but survey overall, the second one I go into a lot of detail on the cause of Luther's reformation.

Keep making more videos!

Dr. Reeves--You'er a marvelous story teller. Through. And enlightening. Enjoyed your gift very much. I mean that deeply, and in all honesty. No brickbats, this time. Please do a series on the powerful family, the Hapsburgs. Thanks, DS

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks. That means a lot and it's a real encouragement to guys doing this just out of their 'basement' office. :) And the Hapsburg family would be great. I gotta work on my John Green ability to talk 1,000 mph and still be enjoyable....

@christophermarlowe2356

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers! My friend. :)

This helped do so much less research that I had to do on the Borgia Family. Thank you so much!

Good to have you back. Eye opening.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very interesting video. Glad to see you're back!

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Have had issues with health (minor things, but still annoying) but back in full force now. :)

I'm so glad for a new video!

love your videos!!!!

Good summary. Thanks. May I suggest a video on Charles Haddon Spurgeon since reading Lewis Drummond's definitive work.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Word...

watching the Netflixs Series on the Borgia . Thanks for history lesson . enjoyed​ it

A very good and clear potted history of what was no doubt a 'very interesting' family. Thanks/

Dr. Reeves, I too love your videos! They have truly become one of my KZread staples in the last few months. Some missed facts/connections that I would have liked to see in this video though include Julius II being formerly Cardinal Della Rovere who is portrayed by Colm Feore in the Showtime series and Cesare Borgia being Machiavelli's inspiration for subject of "The Prince" (a connection that personally blew my mind the first time I heard it) Once again thank you so much and please keep the great videos coming!

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Great points to raise. It's true that a lot of these connections are so interesting it's always a shame to leave some on the cutting room floor.

About time we got some new content :D

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

I know, right! :) I'm all better now...weekly videos save vacations or zombie apocalypse.

Dr Reeves, thank you so much for your concise and factually filled lectures. Do you have (or plan to have) lectures on the church in Eastern Europe, especially the Protestant church?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

I have not progressed to telling the story about the Eastern European churches during Reformation times. But that's on the slate! :)

Good video Ryan! Gonna see if they have any of the literature you recommend for further reading in my university library.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Should all be there! Happy hunting.

It is been a long time Dr. You have been missed...

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's good to be back in the saddle :)

@kevinmcfarley156

7 жыл бұрын

I agree, it's good to have Ryan back in the saddle. That's for the history lessons.

Can't wait for the Savonarola video! I wrote an essay on him in my final year of undergrad.

Hello Dr. Reeves, Any chance that the audio of these videos could be put on a podcast? I'd devour all of em that way if I could.

1st: thanks for the effort - it is always a pleasure to experience a good delivered lecture on early modern topics 2nd: isn't curious that the "demarcation" line somewhat hints to the portugese settlements, which are (off and on) possibly established before 1492? I know that's a very worn out theme, but it would be consistent with the prevailing shipping lanes and their discovery by the portugese during the 15th century... 3rd: wasn't the aragonian reign in both kingdoms of sicily the very time some neapolitan noble-men organized themselves as the historic precursor of the so-called mafia? It would fit into that period, when muslim/barbareque raiders still roamed the christian seas for their slave hunts, when there was still "Reichsitalien" and the livening threat by the ottoman turks on the balkan and in hungary. Thanks for making me think again! I am looking forward to Savanorola :D

1:16 Noodle Hair... Just gotta point that out, I appreciate your time and effort when making this video, this video has to be one of the best depiction of the story of The Borgias... Most other videos I'd watched just spew down bogus rumors.

Hey Ryan, I appreciate your work and am a big fan. If I could make a suggestion on an upcoming video: Spanish Inquisition. Thanks!

@RyanReevesM

6 жыл бұрын

Yep! That one is next up. :)

i just started watching this series again last night ! i have both of them , the European and American versions and love them both !

finaallyyyy you're backkkkkk !!!:)

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Hiiiiiiiiii

More videos please

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

On it! :)

is there any chance of a video on the Arian Christian northern tribes coming from your channel? thanks for the great content!

Please do medici!

great flute

When will there be some new videos ryan?

to anyone interested in this topic I suggest the Netflix series Borgia faith and fear. it is far more historically accurate at least from what I know about the time frame in question.

Dear Dr. Reeves, Once again it's a pleasure to listen your videos. I'm still on the case about the Nestorian's link and connection to Islam by the way. I have been investigating for many years urban myths and cults and the spread of all sorts of disturbed cults which mainly sadly speaking still concentred in North America. In the African American Community for instance, the history of cult groups can goes back to 1930's and even earlier with the rise of man popular known amongst the Afrocentric Community called Marcus Garvey which essentially preached the return of empowering black folks back to Africa. As the story goes hundreds of groups have been created and formed at the course of years. Cesare Borgia became a character attributing the story of the " painting of Jesus " which led to all forms of conspiracy themes ( all very disturbed completely disregarded in every sense, even as alternative form of literature ). Since this day there is a part of the African American Community such as the Nation Of Islam and other similar groups that propagate " Cesare Borgia " been the source of white supremacy system where Jesus was deliberately painted as a white man to hide the facts from the black population blah, blah. As you can see myths can reach all possible levels of society. Thank you Peter

Here's a song to help you remember the Borgias ( Sing it to the melody of the Addams Family) All: Lucrezia, Giovanni, Gioffre & Cesare Italian barmy army, The Borgia Family Our daddy was Rodrigo Rodrigo: I had a monstrous ego All: Where he makes trouble we go The Borgia Family Rodrigo: Our tale begins Renaissance Spain, Its leaders were a shower And I run out of patience So began in my quest for power I splashed my cash to all the papal cardinals in hope That they’d be bought, They were in short And I became the Pope More power than I oughta All: Blood’s thicker than water Rodrigo: Appoint my sons & daughter All: To run a dynasty Cesare: With daddy as the Pope, I could do as I pleased was ace, I’d kill a man who dared To like invade my personal space Rodrigo: I found a husband for Lucrezia Rich Giovanni Sforza, do you love him? Lucrezia: Yes of course but love his power & money more so All: Now married to the Sforza’s This opens up new doors-as The world bows down before us The Borgia/Sforza family Rodrigo: Oh yes, & while we’re at it we will marry son Gioffre Aged twelve but so what soon will be The Borgia/Sforza & the Naples family When the Sforza family Eventually bores ya With just annul the marriage If he refuses to divorce ya Lucrezia: Don’t I get a say? Rodrigo: Don’t fret, for you another man I’ll get Alfonzo of Aragon Lucrezia: I like him this could go on & on! Cesare: You like him I’ve gone off him His pretty face makes me wince Lucrezia: You killed him! Cesare: Yeah I’m the model for Machiavelli’s Prince Rodrigo: Giovanni run the army but Cesare said Cesare: No way! I’ll kill you if you cross me I might kill you anyway I am the mostest powerfulest, evilest of all As long as dad’s alive There’s not a single chance I’ll fall Rodrigo: Huh aaaaah! Cesare: Awww nooo All except Rodrigo: We suddenly lost status It seems the whole world hate us They excommunicate us The Borgia Family R.I.P.

When are you posting more videos?

@RyanReevesM

5 жыл бұрын

Hey there :) I'm on my way back. I took a break at first to get some rest, but then I got busy writing two books. But I'm back now making new ones. Should start dropping this week.

@jamieshows1564

5 жыл бұрын

That's good to hear. What books did you write?

The Borgia's are such an intriguing family and I have to say, in a strange way, admirable. I surely do not condone having mistresses, assassinating political enemies, having orgies, and all the other detestable rumors they're accused of. The admiration seems to come in their loyalty to one another in a troublesome political climate, their imperfections in contrast to their positions in society, and the openness with which they showed their flaws. It's almost relieving to know their was a pope with a family so imperfect/flawed, and that he really didn't try to hide it. One point that I think could've been added, was the admiration that Niccolo Machiavelli had for the Borgia family. He speaks/alludes to them, Cesare in particular, many times in his treatise "The Prince." The fact he chooses the Borgia's as a positive example of how to rule and navigate political turmoil, not only shows the scandalous nature of that family, but also the normality of underhanded politics of that time, especially around Italy. This in turn, would lead to the corruption of the papal office, bishoprics, and clergy all across Europe (it starts at the top), which then leads to Luther.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Great point about Machiavelli. Wish I had added that wrinkle in the video now! It helps prove the point that the Borgias are, in a way, similar to flawed dynasties throughout history: people do not want to be them, do not like them personally, but have this strange respect for what they accomplished.

@benson0509

7 жыл бұрын

Didn't know where to ask this question, but figured it'd be relevant under this video and my previous comments. Do you think you'll ever do a video on Dante and his influence? Not sure how much knowledge you have of him, but he's one of my heroes. Your lectures are great and I'd love listen one on him.

Crown of aragon was absorbed for catalonia( gotholonia) in 1209, when the aragons( aragon=daragon=darragona=tarragona=tarraco=tarraconensis=darragonensis Why any scholar are thinking in that?

It is interesting to me that "Spanish immigrants" who came to Mexico, to places like Tepozotlan and Yucatan looked very much like Rodrigo in fact, the name Rodrigo is common there in the early times. Many of these came from Asturias and were Sephardic jews. So, were the Spanish in Aragon also Sephardic?

@mysticmardi

7 жыл бұрын

they also trained their sons to be in the church as priests and considered it a great honor. Another curiosity is the fact that these were also up to the present day, trained in Jesuit universities.

@mysticmardi

7 жыл бұрын

also according to some scholars; the theatre and arts in general were initiated by the Jesuits to initiate "learning against learning" to reverse the history of humanity as being generally good. Nihilism also used as a means to "re-program" people to think in reverse of what we know of as biblical teachings or the teachings of Love. The Borgias were key. You can downplay their significance but I have firsthand histories told to me by relatives regarding this. I have seen the memoires where Uncle "Rod" (Rodrigo) moved to New York City after flunking out of fashion school to become a flamboyant (flaming) waiter and entertainer during the 1920's so he could make a ton of cash and return it to their town in Mexico near Acapulco. These were common stories. The Borgias are closer in relation to lots of the lineage of "hispanic" in the usa than many even know. Why don't you tell us who these families really were? Vague beginnings, no real data on where exactly they came from? You know better Ryan!!

This brings me to an interesting cause & effect question. Were the powerful families drawn to the Church because they were corrupt, or did the temporal power offered by organized religion tend to corrupt those drawn to it? There are parallels today, with televangelists & megachurches in the U.S. milking the poor to pay for enormous properties & private jets for alleged "men of God". The "day-late, dollar short" story of the Church seems to appear time & time again. Slavery in the New World was decried, after the profits were made. Joan of Arc & Galileo were acquitted, both after their deaths. More recently, ideas like a physical Hell & Limbo, & divine creation have been abandoned, long after those doctrines have woven themselves in the fabric of Western civilization. I'm a skeptic in all things religious, & find your videos thought-provoking for an outsider such as myself.

@benson0509

7 жыл бұрын

To the first question, I think the best answer is, both. I don't think it's a black or white answer. Certainly, there were corrupt individuals and the Church during those times had much more power (ecclesial and secular); this allowed those individuals/families with secular power to maneuver they're way into ecclesial affairs. You could certainly make the parallel with televangelists, but the big difference would be the social influence they hold; televangelists don't have much of say as to what happens politically and socially on a continental scale. To your second point, I'm not sure it's any different than any other institution, ideology, or social structure to ever be apart of history, mainly because it's run by humans that don't have the capacity to be perfect. Respectfully, I think the disbelief in certain doctrines isn't similar to the Joan or Arc or Galileo Case--same for the slave trade, as these weren't matters of church doctrine, they were social practices and popular beliefs of the time. The abandonment of hell, limbo, etc... is a choice of the society at large, it doesn't change the doctrine or whether or not it is true. Great stuff though, appreciate your view points.

@Mr._Anderpson

7 жыл бұрын

Wow. Thanks for the feedback, although I think my eyes crossed a few times on the first one. I can certainly see why paragraphs are important. You both make a valid point that it is hopeless to expect any social organization to be without corruption or to be very forward-thinking when taken in the context of their times. This does lead me to question their origins. All social constructs created by humans serve to funnel wealth and power to the elite. I suppose I would have expected to see a difference if the group in question were divinely inspired. I think there might be a fair bit of examination with rose-tinted glasses occurring. I don't fault either of you for it. It would be difficult for me to confess the allegedly divine instructions set down by God through Moses included slavery, as distastefully as we see it today. The Hebrew word used was "ebed", and was translated as servant in the KJV, presumably to not offend more modern sensibilities. Truth be told, there were separate rules for Hebrew & non-Hebrew slaves. This is also to be expected, as the Jews of that era thought of themselves as chosen by a god & destined to exert lordship over the world, crushing the bones of their enemies to ashes beneath their feet. (That's from the Bible, also, from Malachi. A lot of the "minor prophets" are little more than gloom & doom revenge fantasies.) I'm sure you're both aware it was ok to beat your slaves, if they were able to get up in a few days. But, before we think the endorsement of slavery ended with the Old Testament, we have the book of Philemon, which is a long, detailed account of how a good Christian treats his slaves, as well as how a good Christian slave should behave. I don't fault the ancient Jews too much. They didn't know any better than any other culture at the time. The papal bulls endorsing slavery in later centuries are harder to remove from the context of the religion. Rather than bore you, I'll point you to guys like the Gregorys...popes one and nine of that name. Also note Thomas Aquinas & Augustine of Hippo on the subject. I think it is more likely that slavery ended not because of Christianity, but because of the Enlightenment & growing secular values. The point about slavery & Islam is of note. Then again, most justification of slavery is religious in nature. Anyway, I don't want to ramble, but I enjoy the discussion. I've been studying religions, particularly Christianity, a lot in my free time. I'm worried about the implications of things like the proposed changes to the Johnson Amendment, which would allow churches much more influence in political campaigns. I'm sure it's something the average church-goer sees as good. Given the growth of Islam worldwide & in the U.S., maybe reason can prevail before we open a door we'll later regret.

@ryan82scott

7 жыл бұрын

Lots of thoughtful content here, but a question to consider- if something is divinely inspired, wouldn't we almost expect it to be the target of Satan's barbs all the more frequently?

@benson0509

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, however, when discussing with a sceptic, I'm not sure referencing Satan as a point of rhetoric helps.

@ryan82scott

7 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. We could rephrase with "If evil existed, would we not expect for evil to seek out and attack the strongest sources of good?" And, yes, I'm aware that individuals exist who do not believe in "good" or "evil." Color me confounded when some of the very same people look to label the actions of a deity they don't believe exists with terms they claim are nonsense.

I think this whole Trump thing is going to go down in history as one of these great social/political dramas, I bet a lot of fictional characters are going to be based on him in the future. Where the foundation of our very institutions are brought into question by a larger than life outside figure and his entourage. Love it or hate it, we most certainly live in interesting times.

Many things from my family have been exaggerated and others are true. people like the dramatics. People forget we still exist. :D We're much more than a TV show and the TV show takes much poetic license.

@lisarand1070

5 жыл бұрын

Who cares !

Any truth that Caeser Borgias was the model used for Christ painting?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

I've heard this, but I believe it is either impossible to confirm or just a coincidence that he looks similar. But then in Renaissance art it was not uncommon to use people as models for the painting without implying a connection between the two. This is where I would probably lean.

It was SavOnarola, not SavAnarola. Otherwise, excellent.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

That's funny. I double checked Lucrezia and Cesare several times and overlooked the easier one! Good catch. :)

I'm here because of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Showtime's The Borgias.

Spain also colonized the southern parts of what is now America. this includes Florida and across to Louisiana.

I am related to the borgias true say.

Who ARE the Borgias. Those lads are still rocking in Latin America and Europe

I didn't like Showtimes The Borgias very much. I thought the European show Borgia was much, much better. Sure, the actors may not be as memorable, but the show itself was so much better in almost every way.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I probably should have said more explicitly I don't watch the show. I know the essence of it, but I assumed it was just sexed up drama with a bit of actual history.

Before watching : did you mention St Francis Borgia, the Jesuit?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Yup

@hglundahl

7 жыл бұрын

Good. Did you mention Alexander VI was most abusive as Pope in the case of his own son, Cesare, whom he tried to push into an acclesiastical carreer as bishop of Carpentras?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Not that deeply, as the video is more of a quick survey. More about the abusiveness of Alexander VI and then the carry on of Cesare after his death. Didn't break down their individual relationship, though. Great questions.

@hglundahl

7 жыл бұрын

Apart from his trying to make Cesare bishop and his breaking the celibate and possibly his involvement in burning of Girolamo Savonarola, what was abusive about him?

@mattpoulsen520

7 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm currently finishing up a Church history class and your videos have been a great companion along with the required texts. Thanks for the assist!

My comments don't always show up on your videos Ryan Reeves, are you censoring me?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Not at all but you're not the first to mention a comment doesn't show immediately or seems 'lost'. Must be a Google thing.

@specterreview8508

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply Ryan. Hope I didn't come off as accusing, but it is curious how this problem seems to be a regular part of life in the comment sections of youtube.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Think it's them slowing down conversations that tend to go troll or emo. My only guess. Could just be the servers

Borgias were also victims of Italian zenophobia. Popes had always at that time , and after, been Italians. The Borgias were a Spanish family, and Spain with its new found wealth from the New World, were considered as upstarts by the Romans. So, yes, all the sins of the father were put on the son! The Borgia reign was entirely in tune with the Roman papacy of the age, No more corrupt , no less. For centuries, every change of Pope meant a change in ruling families, and the popes were usually chosen in opposition of he that went before. This ridiculous system of nepotism turned the church into a political party, with all its allies, and it is still this way today, maybe more a corporation like a multi national, as banking seems to be the main activity of present day Jesuit controlled church ruled from Rome. It was certainly over banking that the Short lived- 33 day- Pope was killed with poison in 1970's.Before becoming Pope, he had been cardinal in charge of church Bank in Venice. Throughout history the Venetians are famed for knowing all the secrets of Vatican Rome. He knew too much for some!

You think they will let someone in with a black light to look for evidence from over 500 years ago? There is a real danger in a religious group that its leader has authority to speak in place of God as their tradition instructs.Thank you!

there are even 2 games about the borgias

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

And they are 100% how people did things back then. :)

Come back to us Ryan I require further enlightenment

According to youtube I am the 666th viewer. Quite fitting!

Ryan reeves thank you for your insight into corruption of RC church

Is this where the word "Bourgeois" and "Bourgeoisie" comes from?

@XXGDUBSXX

7 жыл бұрын

Jonney Shih no

The borgias, despite false&manipulated official history, were from catalan countries(house of barcelona, bad named aragon kingdom) this is why even leonard d este( lleonardo da vinci) has a catalan shield in his barried place The catalans were fighting against the tirany of spanish castilian language kings, for the control of the mediterranean This is why borgias wrote orlando il furioso in catalan, the language more widespread in that times over europe&america

Any chance they were Jewish being they came from Spain?

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Great question. Lot of speculation about their Jewish roots, but historians of the period tend not to find any evidence of this. I'm just telling you what I've read, though. Haven't looked into it myself.

@cado64

7 жыл бұрын

Pfsif The Hook Nose can't lie

@xavisanchez7522

7 жыл бұрын

Pfsif it wasnt exist spain as it is, in fact if was something was hispania, and was the catalan language not the castilian( didnt have crown at that time)

@TheLeakTv

7 жыл бұрын

Pfsif muslims maybe but not jewish.

@TheLeakTv

7 жыл бұрын

Pfsif which is like being Catholic soooo. yeah lines up..

SATANIST & Monsters... Awful!

Only God can judge the Pope. No mortal man may accuse him of faults.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

This is not even Catholic doctrine. You're confusing the Catholic view that one cannot remove the pope (or question teachings ex cathedra) from the allowable criticism of the man who has held the office. Two entirely different things, even from Catholic standards.

@pluniaz172

7 жыл бұрын

It is a direct quote from Pope Pius II in Multa hic hodie, and reflects tradition going back to at least the Eighth Ecumenical Council, which condemned all who, following Photius, would dare to publish tracts against the Supreme Pontiff.

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Yes publish, as in condemn him and the office. The Photian Schism was an attempt by some to undermine the bishop himself. This is different than saying one cannot offer judgment on actions taken.

@pluniaz172

7 жыл бұрын

Jesus takes what we say about His ministers very seriously. He told Saint Catherine of Siena, ""To Me redounds every assault they make on My ministers: derision, slander, disgrace, abuse.Whatever is done to them I count as done to Me. For I have said and I say it again: No one is to touch My Christs. It is My right to punish them, and no one else's." (Dialogue 116)

@tessa7413

7 жыл бұрын

Plunia Z yes, when anyone is slandering or persecuting the body of Christ and Christ's ministers (unjustly) it is an assault on Christ Himself - but there are members of the Church (including clergy) who wound the Body of Christ through their sinful actions, and I'm sure Christ judges His ministers much more harshly because they have been given authority and have a great responsibility - woe to those who abuse their positions of authority. This is why we must always be praying for the clergy. There are many, though (especially in the Catholic Church) who are falsely accused & often slandered against, and it brings to mind one of the Beatitudes... "Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12)