sometimes if you just happen to do a trick exceptionally well, it will end up getting named after you, even if you didn't invent it

@ChrisLeesorigamirobot

5 жыл бұрын

This is the correct answer. Just because he didn't invent it, doesn't mean I don't have that line in my head from Welcome to Hell every time I think about that trick.

@nateordie

4 жыл бұрын

Cole Brown well then they should call making dickish reply to a KZread comment a “Cole Brown”!

@BOBBROMIX

3 жыл бұрын

@@nateordie It Should Be Called "Cole Reply" Not Just "Cole Brown", Stoopid

Hey Aron! is it ok if i mention your channel in a video i'm making about awesome, underrated, skate channels?

@RadRatVideo

7 жыл бұрын

+VLSkate absolutely bro! I'd appreciate it

@justneagle

7 жыл бұрын

Can I be mentioned? btw your channel is sick. Subbing.

@vecchioutente

4 жыл бұрын

@John Dunbar what the fuck

I did a few Bennet grinds in 1997. Barley grinds were pretty hot then, but I just couldn't to them that way so I started trying them frontside. I figured I could do that because I'd just learned bs 180 fakie nosegrinds. No proof though; no one had a video camera. I had someone take a photo but it's long gone unfortunately. I managed to crank out a few on a couple ledges, but honestly no one thought it was cool (I probably did it slow and terribly) so I stopped trying them. Years later Matt Bennett blew up and I was pretty stoked since he actually made it look good.

Gonz did every trick in his video days part! It blew my mind when I first watched it. (Video Days was a hidden Easter egg on the Blind What if?! DVD) Oh and by the way the alley oop fs 180 sw feeble has a name, two actually, I heard it being called the Cole grind (for obvious reasons) and it's also called grapefruit grind, which was news to me. I'm also with you on the Bennett grind, I'm convinced that every possible grind variation has been done on a curb during the 90s (I'm not talking about flip-ins and -outs). We might not have footage of it but I'm sure it has been done ;)

Hey man thank you for putting out great content all the time. Keep up the good work

skateboarding is so fucking sweet and open and always will be

the thing about the Bennett grind coming about so much later is easier to understand when you consider Brian Wenning bringin switch back smiths, I think, after 2000. and Bennett grinds are much harder than other tricks. Its definitely a fitting name for them because he does them perfectly.

I made up the frontside half cab front smith grind around ‘09. I’m sure somebody else had done it before but I’d never seen one. My friend named it the Watson because he took a Vicodin just before I landed it lol

It's cool to me to see that someone speaks about Gonz' s cool grind. That's when street skating got a turbo charger.

The +Rad Rat Video s are the only ones on YT I like before I watch because I'm never disappointed. Consistence content curation. Thanks as always

I would be really really shocked if the Bennett grind wasn't done on a mini ramp by Ben schroder.

Welcome to Hell... what a great video

You should do a video on Travis Stenger (he's been called the "Canadian Gino"). That story is pretty interesting considering how amazing he was at skating but didn't really seem to care about sponsorship.

@norcodaev

6 жыл бұрын

Tyler Payment i

I've been watching your vids for a while now, and that smirk at the start just earned my sub. Keep up the great work :)

far beyond knowledgeable great content! love this stuff!

Hey aron! I watched your vids 10 years ago, im super glad to have re-stumbled on your channel! I've been binge-ing your content all day :)

the backside disaster to smith(shown in the video) is called a "half nelson", if you revert out of it, it is called "full nelson". If you do the trick frontside all the way through its called a "nancy reagan". Both tricks made up by Josh Nelson in the 80's. Same dude who invented feeble grinds

heres some trivia smith grinds are for mike smiths namesake but he couldnt do em he would do a smith stop in the pool and losi started putting the rail down for hella blocks and people called em smith grind

Great video, keep them coming!

I'm a new subscriber and I can't get over the fact he has only 14,000 sub's because he deserves so much more! Awesome content bro, I've tried to get to the bottom of some of these topics and its nice having it condensed into one video like this. Awesome stuff bro, how new is this channel?

Bennett grinds are easier than u would think

Sugarcanes on hand rails blow my mind

I used to do something similar to the "Barley Grind" around 1989-1990 on double-sided curbs. I would usually begin from a normal (backside) boardslide and then "click-in" to the switch-smith grind. Other times, I would approach rolling fakie and pivot into the grind off the tail. Note that I wouldn't fakie ollie into the grind, but simply pivot into it. I do have videos of these grinds.

Thanks for continuing to produce high quality work in your videos & responses/research. Can you do a video on pop shuv it (who created it, is a shuv vs a pop shuv a completely different trick, is it credited as the same trick? Why do we call bigspins just bigspins when some people pop it & some don't. Shouldn't we call it pop bigspin if popped? Did the berrics/Joey Brezinski create this awareness?)

@michaelr.4878

4 жыл бұрын

Dude, I get confused about trick names all the time too. I have just come back to skating in the last year after I stopped skating in 1999, when I was 18. I stopped because my ankles were a mess and it was interfering with my hockey 'career'. hehe But now I am back and damn man, things have changed. But it isn't the innovation that messes me up and confuses me, as I expected that. It is the names of the tricks that screws with my head. I skated from roughly the age of 8 or 9 until I was 18 and back then, trick names were more descriptive. Like when I left, we were doing 360 kickflips. Now it is just a 360 flip or tre flip. There are countless other examples. But the ones that mess me up the most are like you said, the big spin variations. Maybe I was doing them wrong back in 1999, but I would do a fakie 360 kickflip and my body would turn 180 in the air and I would roll away 'regular', or whatever it is called these days. But there would be lots of pop.as it was essentially a regular fakie big spin kickflip with a 180 body varial. I don't know if we were using the correct name..but we were learning these tricks from magazines back in the 90's. haha

Congrats on 7 thousand subs!

Donny Barley made em legit

If we are splitting hairs on barleys and bennetts. Back smiths are Monty grinds.

I lived though this era. Everyone knew the trick had be done thousands of times. Donny Barley doing a Barley grind on a handrail then doing it switch in Toy Machines video Welcome to Hell. That's why Everyone started calling it a Barley grind cause no one was doing the trick like he was. We named it Barley grind not DONNY

I use to skate with Danny minnick back in the mid 90s and late 90s. He lived in Seattle. He would show up to sea skate skatepark. The was our first seattle skatepark in the city. I remember he would always bring pros from cali. in 98 he had a video premier that's when he brought Willy Santos and Sean Sheffey. I remember seeing Brandon Turner when he was a kid, Peter smolik before they were big cause of Danny minnick.

I was 15 in 1991 and rick ibaseta and the entire new deal team were SO AHEAD that I seriously doubt anything was not done before. obviously on a different scale.

Growing up, Welcome to Hell was my favorite skate vid. The back to back Barley Grinds on those handrails was always one of the sickest parts. Lately I've been pondering this: is it still a Barley (or Bennett) Grind if you nollie into it? Another aside: someone needs to start doing kick flips into these tricks on some big rails. For instance, Kick flip Barley Grind at Hollywood high 16...that would be so gnarly. Don't think anybody has even Barley Grinded that one, I'd even be stoked to just see that go down. Love your channel, keep killing it! You should do some history of spots sometime BTW...

interesting how frontside and backside can develop different names or not. In this case they are different, but like you mentioned, the frontside cab was not something cab did. Then of course the backside smith grind was monty nolder and not mike smith. Interesting how language develops around this until we reach a universally accepted term

a lot of advanced tricks are learned as mistakes by trying harder tricks......in this case you learn barley grinds when you miss a 180 to 50 50. you learn how to lock in and slide it and do it on purpose.. the trick is to approach the ledge from farther and lean back and pop a little less . i learned switch barleys like that, i didnt even know it had a name

surprised you didn't mention the Suski grind. It always seemed weird to me that an angled 5.0 grind would be attributed to an am. Suski is great, of course, just seemed relevant to this topic

@kevvymetal666

5 жыл бұрын

a suski grind is more like a fucked up back tail where your truck hits. it should never have become a trick. any grind that involves dragging your tail is lame.

"Does it matter what direction [a trick] was done?" I'd say yes for particular ones. Frontside smiths in transition are called Monty grinds because Monty did them best. FS kickflips on tranny are called Muska flips because Muska did em all the time. A frontside air is NOT an indy grab unless you're spinning/taking off backside. A backside air is NOT a melon grab unless you're spinning/taking off frontside or on flat and boning out the nose

could you do a video on dolphin flips

@nobocks

6 жыл бұрын

morally dubious dragon Darrell Stanton

if you watch old 1980s videos skaters like Natas do variations of these tricks on curbs. They just pivot into them instead of ollie.

someone did do a bennet and a barley in the 90s ive seen them both

We used to called the over rail Willy grinds "over Willies" or "Hard Willies"

In the late 90's-early 2000's, I was doing those "losi grinds" on modest flatbars, frontside both plain and nollie, but I had no idea anyone if anyone was doing them, had done them, or if there was a name for it. Being realistic and having skated in the early 90's, I just assumed that someone had done it at least once on film, but I just hadn't seen the clip. It was a really weird grind, I was an "older" established local scene guy, in my early 20's, dudes knew me as Ouija, so they were calling them ouija grinds, but I never wanted to take credit for them. Cool to have a name for the grind now. They're still one of my favorite tricks on the local park flatbar, look cool and are easy to do.

The gonz trick the alley oop fs 180 to switch feeble I've heard is a grapefruit grind or a cole grind cuz chris Coles made them popular. I'd like to see that one done backside. Like a alley oop over Bennett grind

Great video - thank you!

What about Chris Cole grinds aka Fs 180 Switch Feeble back to regular? Have any info on those?

Bennett Grinds? right here!

I think the popularization of the trick / making it stand out is enough to name the trick after the skater. Was there another name before anyway? Also, how about the suski grind?

Regarding the full cab, I believe I recall him (caballero or perhaps another notable source) saying that it is a "fakie to fakie 360", in which case, fs/bs would be irrelevant. However, that leads me to believe that doing a "full cab" on a quarter pipe would not actually be called a caballerial, but perhaps that's just speculation. On another note, I would like to hear your opinion on the "kastalerial" aka pop shuv fs body varial, which I have always thought of more so as a body varial where your body spins in the opposite direction the board spins.

i dont think it really matters who did the trick first its more about who popularized the trick and did it well first

Hey man, Dig your channel. Is there a reason you haven't reviewed the EA Skate series? Would love to see all the good things you would have to say about them. Thanks.

That fuckin Bennett one u gotta lean mad fwd

Great channel for old skate nerds

Derek Williams...there is misinformation out in the streets people really thinks Willy Santos...

Late flips! when I 1st started skating in like 97/98 I heard about late flips. I thought they were relatively new. I also had only seen a couple on video. Once I really got into skating a lot I realized they were done a lot in the early 90s. Can you do a vidro on that? Also on that same topic a dude named Cody Whitt is insane at late flips.

@skinhead-ej8ff

7 жыл бұрын

mierisdope pretty gay for an gender lmao

Darrel Stratton did the Bennett grind first

im not 100% sure as ive not watched it for while....but matt hensley on hocus pocus does some really crazy grinds on a flat bar...and that was before rick ibeseta.

I've always wondered where fingertips came from. and I mean the ones where you Ollie first. mike v made them look so good but I feel like it must have been done by someone else first. usually when I look this up the waters are muddy because of the no Ollie version that Mullen was so good at. would love to get a good answer. awesome vids btw!

I need this video. I ask who invented this trick? Thanks you bro!

Watch skypagers I believe in Rick Ibasettas part or Andy did a switch 180 to smith on a bench in NY

Just a funny bit of info: The first time I got laid, was on the same day I did a "Bennett grind"(which was long before Matt Bennett came on the scene) and I was dressed just like Donny Barely was in the "welcome to hell" line where he does the switch barely and then the regular one on a hand rail. I'm not one to focus on fashion or care what anyone wears, but it was such a memorable day that the imagery is burned into in my mind. Another great video Raddy.

@CT-nb5lm

6 жыл бұрын

haha u will remember that day forever..Im going to watch DonnyBarley Welcome to hell part now and maybe 1281.. the small wheels visual memory stings

@ShiningSta18486

6 жыл бұрын

thats the littest story ever fuck yeah hahaha

@TheDailyWipeout

6 жыл бұрын

getting laid is easy, but doing a bennett grind is nearly impossible for me

I may of invented the Roast Beef grind, I came out with it in the 80's when jump ramps n wall rides were all the rage. I went to a skate event in the UK where there were a few UK pros and US pros and saw other people doing the roast beef grab (I'd landed it way before the event) anyway when I saw them doing the grab trick, I shouted out to my friends hey they're doing the roast beef, after that event the name seemed to take off and that's what it became known as. It was definitely one of the goofiest grabs that can be done and is more awkward than stylish.

I think you had the Sieben grinds backwards. I'm pretty sure that Michael Sieben wrote front 180 to switch front feeble. I remember because it was within just a few months of that article that Haslam ended up landing it (switch) in that ad. I think Sieben even referenced Haslam in a subsequent article. Great job with the video though. You had to have done your research if you were able to find obscure facts like the Sieben grind article in thrasher. I still call them Sieben grinds when I see them in video.

Lol grapefruit if you say that at a park people will call you fruity

i saw rick ibeseta do that at least a year and a half before that video

since every thing i skateboarding exist will skateboarding become repetitive and die out

excellent video, so many kids get so confused over this

Dude, what happened to the Neal Stephenson on the book shelf?? also sick vid.

So is anyone with a trick named after them the actual inventor?(Smith & Cab, unless you can prove otherwise)

ok so definitely after 2001 but i remember a volcom ad where darrell stanton does a bennett grind down a handrail and it is called a stanton grind.This was the first i had ever seen of it and wouldn't know it as a bennett grind for sometime after if i am correct the footage is in the non aussies section of lets live.

@jackwoodrow8974

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember Stanton doing it first

pretty sure i saw jon west doing 'barley grinds' before welcome to hell came out.

The correct term for an opposite side willy is an over willy.

Cab is always backside imo. FS Cab doesn't exist. It's a fakie FS 360.

Why does every variation have to have a name? Why can't it be like frontside 180 to switch smith? Well ofcourse it's lot easier to pronounce but what if every trick was like that for example backside kickflip was called something else with no "backside" or "kickflip" in its name. That would be messy.

how do you steal a trick? theres no copyright on tricks

in the early 90s people were fucking around a lot and just trying a trick once. they didnt try to make it a signature move. barley made it a signature move so that's why it's a barley grind. even after barley did it most people didnt care to do it or learn it. it's an ugly trick

OMG you even mentioned sugarcanes, f/s, b/s but not CHRIS MILLER

Please do a vid on matt reason and ricky oyola

can you do a Frankie hill video ? not many people heard of him

Why dont they just call them what they are 180 to switch feeble or smith?

Gonz trick is a grapefruit

this reminds of of all the weird grind names of that era. because of New Deal UWT & 1281. both of those are insane for that day. K-grinds comes to mind not cause Koston invented it but the style & flare he put on it.. RadRat,anyone,, who wa sthe skater in late 90's who always wore same color flannel shirt & actually put a piece of it on his deck or signature shoe>? Hirchart or EthanFowler?

how do you know dan? are you from houston?

Fs or BS shouldn't matter

Shout out to Donny barley my uncle

I'd like to know your thoughts on a trick I've only see one person do its slide that goes in the space between your board and wheels and I've only seen Jon west do it in his "art bars" foundation video part...let me know😎

@zewkee4861

7 жыл бұрын

holy moly the precision

@joshuadansby2874

7 жыл бұрын

Josh Hawkins has done that trick too in Happy Medium 1 about 2 minutes 42 seconds in.

@zewkee4861

7 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna call it the sandwich grind

@joshuadansby2874

7 жыл бұрын

Or sandwich slide since no truck is grinding

@therespectedteacher3412

7 жыл бұрын

I took me a few times to notice that when I watch Art Bars. I was like why is this 50/50 in slow motion? Then I noticed it

It'd be great if you made a video on the "fs overcrook" controversy

@francescosaturnino113

7 жыл бұрын

I think he mentioned it in an older video!

what about the hawkins grind..

Are you going to review American Wasteland? My personal favourite game :)

Who invented Suciu grind. Or who did it first. Thats a pretty interesting topic.

do a video on adio !

Can you do a history of dolphin flip

Grosso would not say Barley grind and absolutely not say frontside Barley grind

You look like Marty from back to the future. Ha

The most word of mouth get it! Back in them days ! But yeh dead on!

180 backside hurricane grind 180 out = full cab hurricane? 😲

@MrButchersTube

7 жыл бұрын

dj kid kato salsamoto full cab hurricane would be exactly that a full cab to hurricane

@Bboykidcombo

7 жыл бұрын

It my favorite trick

hey. .... we used to call inward heels sheffey flips...... did anyone else do this?

Ayyy dillz

yo dude I found something cool, not sure if you want to do a video on it. a layback is just a normal layback but one while grabbing the nose while doing a layback is called a grey slide invented by Jim grey pretty cool. check it out

Mike Smith never did Smith Grinds

270 LIPSSSSSS

The awkward pause and the face you pull at 0:09 had me crying the laughter

his intro changed back again.