I worked in the Adult Video industry (yes porn) as a Director from 2003 to 2006. We shot on VX’s. I know they were popular for shooting skating and snowboarding too. If Sony has their head out of their asses and sees this market, they could make an HD camera physically the same as the VX, with a “classic VX” filter option to turn on before you shoot to give it that golden tone.

@FirstPersonSkater

6 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear some porn stories, like how it is on the set

@jaysant6958

6 жыл бұрын

FirstPersonSkater lol

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

That "golden tone" (i.e. outdated technology doing a bad job of color correction) could be easily applied in seconds in editing software.

@Splifffed

5 жыл бұрын

says the go-pro guy... do you even know how to turn on a vx?

@RedVelvetUnderground333

5 жыл бұрын

I loved seeing vx in porn

You’d think they’d make a 2018 version of the vx

@66hias

6 жыл бұрын

i hope

@jamflowman8283

6 жыл бұрын

they pretty much have it it’s just not made by sony

@jamflowman8283

6 жыл бұрын

sony probably has one

@thomaswilsonsr.9206

6 жыл бұрын

vague What's the model of it? And brand?

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

In a sense they do. There are tons of ~$3,000 prosumer HD cameras out there, but there's no need for that in skateboarding. Back in the 90's, you needed a prosumer camera to get remotely decent looking footage, but today, any decent GoPro clone for $50+ will look fine for KZread and the features of a prosumer camera aren't useful for just filming some casual clips for KZread (things like multiple professional mic inputs, zebra lines for contrast, etc., nothing most people would even know how to take advantage of). The simple fact of the matter is there's no need to buy an expensive camera unless you're filming a multi-million dollar blockbuster film and everything needs to be PERFECT. If you just need a little more weight and a handle, get a scorpion handle for $20 on Amazon and bolt some weights to it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again ,this guy is very clever

They where designed for the desert storm war and built to very durable and it shows as there still working to this day.

@stashandskate

4 жыл бұрын

idk about durable not for skating

Thank you for talking about that SD tape camera again. It is very interesting to hear about.

I don’t think there are many grown men that don’t understand the charm of the VX1000. It seems to me to mostly be young millennials that comment on skateline videos, complaining. And I get the idea that they think people still use it “To be cool” which is of course not it at all. It has a timeless look, and it’s pretty much as simple as that. I totally preferred it to HD for a long time, and now I’m kinda in the middle and like both. But VX will never go away as long as they’re still working. I mean, why do people still shoot super 8 film, why do people still use VHS cameras? These aren’t questions of practicality. These are questions of look and style.

Ah yes... one of the things I hate most is when I’m watching someone shred a big ass handrail on video but then I look at the corner of the screen and notice the chromatic aberration

My skating buddy's in Arizona use the VX I think it's cool because of the way it looks and that's what we grew up with, just like some people enjoy vinyls instead of CDs, but one day i would like to have a couple VX's and and an HD.

The only people who make HD footage look good are those who initially honed their craft with a VX (Bill Strobeck, Beagle, Chris Mulhern, Ty Evans, etc). Just sayin...

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Don't confuse cinematography with camera equipment. A great filmer could make a cell phone video look better than an idiot with a $100,000 cinema camera.

@jpsholland

5 жыл бұрын

@ DerekSiems, that fact showed at the cinema festival in Canes, France. The first movie made with a phone is a fact for years already.

@andytrace

4 жыл бұрын

This is nonsense 😂

Being anti-trump is about as unoffensive as it gets.

@SquirrelASMR

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂

@moegerms

5 жыл бұрын

@steve sabroe -.....it's just you little guy. Like..... nobody called you here. You saw something you don't like and now you feel the need to explain why you're not mad lol

@laurentiumanolescu

4 жыл бұрын

Trump is a great president,only retards hate him

@strawberrywigz1658

4 жыл бұрын

@steve sabroe fuck you and fuck trump broo :)))

@moegerms

4 жыл бұрын

@steve sabroe - Look at yourself. You're not even human. What must that be like?

what video is that glen fox clip from, ive never seen that before but his style is EPIC

I think it's just got an iconic look for skateboarding.

Hey Rad Rat Video you should see if your camera has a facial recognition setting if you use autofocus, your a little soft and your wall is in focus. It's a little distracting. Love your content tho!

Very nice part about the vx, thanks!

great video as always but please use different background music that doesn't sound like a car commercial.

The answer is: if you film just for KZread use, any camera is good because youtube burn anything down to 1980 consumer VHS quality. (1980 is the year, not the pixels...)

Why do you think some tricks are easier switch/nollie?(Ex: FS bigspins, FS 360s, and laser flips)

@Imjakejones2322

6 жыл бұрын

Because physics lol (sry for smrt as remark)

@theopenmouth9695

6 жыл бұрын

It's not a smart ass response because you weren't smart and didn't explain shit.

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

Mr NightShock THAT, was a smart ass remark.

@alexanderthomas9388

6 жыл бұрын

Jake Jones are you sure? I was told it was because of chemistry.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

It mostly comes down to which muscles you have built up and have fine control over. This is why I kind of don't respect people who ALWAYS skate switch because they've basically made switch their new regular. Stance is determined by eye dominance, but which way a trick is easier all comes down to muscles in your feet/ankles/legs being built up correctly.

There are couple of Mini DV cameras with the ability to shoot Progressive, ones with more than 1 megapixel CCD's like the Sony DCR-TRV80.. When coupled with the Baby Death Lens from Century or The cheaper Opteka lens the result is, in my opinion, even better than the VX. Two main reasons: First the image gets wider when shooting in Progressive mode since the whole area of the CCD is used, second there is no interlacing, the camera records progressive (whole frames) directly to the tape thus giving clearer image.

@moegerms

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this jm looking into one of these now

Anyone know.what the old Marnell footage at 4:07 is from?

i wanna ask radrat: whats up with all the 2010's bromance in skate vids, and why does it need to be included in so many videos?

as a guitar player, tube amps are still objectively better than solid state. i think a better comparison might be like a vintage tube amp as opposed to a modern tube amp.

@cjlockhartskate1710

6 жыл бұрын

annie snyder hey guitar guy its about skating the guitar thing was an example

@annieetc.563

6 жыл бұрын

technically it's about cameras tho..

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Lockhart Why don't you say that to Aron?

@jigawhen

6 жыл бұрын

omg quit music for the sake of music please. its like playing a silvertone U1and calling out anyone with a Danelectro OMG do I sound legit? OMG I play( a classical guitar cause Im too lazy for callouses)!

@annieetc.563

6 жыл бұрын

JamesBarriere kinda confused what you’re so upset about bud

Personally (and I stress personally) I like hd over grainy fishy eye, just sayin. And I’m old school. (31 yrs old) What I always wanted as a young skater was the frame rate and intensity that hd offers. But nobody cares what I think. ;-)

@retro_jojo3159

6 жыл бұрын

Jake Jones I care Jake, I care

@majesticuncasual186

6 жыл бұрын

31 yrs isn't oldschool in 2017

@retro_jojo3159

6 жыл бұрын

majestic UNcasual he's old enough to have started skating when all there was to watch was grainy fisheye videos

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

SD isn't grainy, it's low res and interlaced, but I get what you mean. Yes, it looks terrible (esp on modern progressive scan screens) and there's no reason for it.

@jodroboxes

6 жыл бұрын

Hi8 looks like crap. I've worked with 3 VX camera's (vx1, vx1000 and vx9000) and when digital HD came around it was a godsend. God bless digital HD!

I shot with a VX1000 MK1 for 15 years, but the world is moving on, while a small niche of skate filmers are not. Truth is, the biggest brands are now shooting on things like RED and other high-end, high bitrate, and sometimes raw-video-capable camera setups, along with aerial drone shots. The VX1000 will ALWAYS be extremely, extremely nostalgic for many, including myself since I had the massive blessing of being born early enough to fully experience it in a near-professional setting. I now see the bare minimum standard (in my humble opinion) to be the Panasonic HVX/HPX with a Century "Xtreme" fisheye (16:9 HD modern version of the Century "Death Lens"), with my preferred to be something a bit higher up, like a Sony FS5 with a Canon L-series 8-11mm Fisheye, and then if the budget allows, a RED on a Movi. To be completely honest however, your footage will blend together absolutely fine with most other HD footage so long as you're shooting on at least an old Canon Rebel that is 1080p @ 30fps capable, with like a Rokinon fisheye or something. Even an iPhone with one of the higher quality fisheye lenses (i.e. something from the "Moment" smartphone lens company, for instance) will absolutely do the trick as long as you have a way of keeping it stable while shooting (i.e. handheld gimbal, or a rig with a handle and something to add some extra weight to weigh it down a bit, to eliminate some of the shaking and jitteriness that comes with shooting on something as small and lightweight as a smartphone). I am thinking about doing an in-depth video on this topic (I have yet to see one on KZread in the way I want to do it), and I have been doing this for a long time in the skateboarding world, seen the skate filming industry grow from the late 90's to where it is today shooting in 4K, and feel like I could share a lot of down-to-earth insight. Let me know if anyone reading this would be into that. And if you're an up-and-coming skate filmer yourself and have any questions or want me to do some consulting work for you, drop me a line, you can DM me on instagram or something. @ matrodmedia

@overkill7990

4 жыл бұрын

If you like something then why move on from it though? Unless you're dependent on filming skating for a living and have to adjust to the demands of the industry. But otherwise if you're just shooting for fun why not?

@R66Snowy

Жыл бұрын

@@overkill7990 because they don't do it for fun. sellout dudes.

before even watching I would say the point is it gives it a vintage look. All the first ever classics where recorded on camera and think of how many parts that will forever remain in skating history filmed on the VX1000 its just normal to want to imitate the look and style. It has a very skateboard feel about it.

Also you can blame Jason Hernandez for the golden look of the VX1000

If given that the VX will die, what do you think will replace it?

Is there any quality difference between vx1000 vx2100

Is there a way of attaching a capture card to the video output of a VX then record digitally through the old camera itself. that way no tape problems

@NIDEEPOFFICIAL

6 жыл бұрын

Get a capture cam! Just a minidv cam strictly for improving footage

In the past I was really curious to get a VX1000. Now I'm curious about it again, but considering all the negative sides of such an old camera it's maybe better to look for something else. Which camera in the small budget range is the best choice for skateboarding?

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Get a GoPro clone and a scorpion handle and just bolt on some weights if you want it to be a little heavier to smooth out movement. Anything more expensive than that is a total waste for skateboarding unless you're shooting for a top tier professional company. I personally recommend the Firefly 7s or 8s because they're the best combination of cheap and good quality (esp the mic) and the 8s can use an external mic if you're really picky.

I think it's pretty simple; some people think VX looks better and other people think HD looks better. I prefer VX but I don't mind HD. It's just a matter of taste.

There's some edits where vx is just better in my opinion. HD looks sick for a lot of parts but there's something both nostalgic and subjectively better about the final product of sd camcorders

I think a popular misconception is that HD necessarily means wide aspect ratio. I agree that 16:9 doesn't do well with skateboarding but why not high definition 4:3? Isn't it available on modern cameras too?

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with 16:9? How is chopping off the sides of the image helpful? Skateboarding has movement in the horizontal plane, using a wider aspect ratio just helps ensure that you don't have the skater go out of frame. It just doesn't make sense to film in 4:3 when everyone watching will be on a 16:9 screen.

I'd like to start filming my friends because i'm not really good at skating, and i asked myself wich camera i should get, i instantly thought of the vx1000 but that's only because it's iconic and its reputation. So, your video was really helpful but now i don't know wich camera should i get, and if i want a HD one wich one? Do you have any names of good hd cameras or not that are not over 400€ (with the fisheye) that are relyable ?

@overkill7990

6 жыл бұрын

Get a VX

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Get a Firefly 7s or 8s and a scorpion handle. Fisheye is built in and the footage looks incredible for such a cheap camera. The mic is really good for an action camera, too, and the 8s supports external mics. Don't get sucked into the VX trap, that camera is trash but people just don't know any better.

@Xmkdco

6 жыл бұрын

Good luck with stabilizing that Firefly or getting long lens shots :)

Video suggestion: H-Street

Can you review the Jet Set Radio games? They're technically inline skating games but much more with an amazing soundtrack.

I recently tried to vlog on a SonyTRV900, a model that competed with the VX1000 at the time as it was the first 3CCD pro-sumer camcorder Sony released. Here's my experience: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYF-sMujg9bbZbg.html

@Riz2336

6 жыл бұрын

I have that camera, I used that for skating back in the day.

@GivesAMinute

6 жыл бұрын

Same Riz, it's pretty much the only camera I used for a long time! I had a x7 (not sure what that equated to in MM) wide angle lens on it (the one in my video) that made it slightly warped but no as fisheye as the VX1000. LOVED IT!! At one point I almost, almost, almost upgraded to the PD150 but in hindsight glad I never made that (unnecessary) jump to DVCAM!

@thenolassociation

6 жыл бұрын

great camera indeed , vx2000 is my limit for me

@GivesAMinute

6 жыл бұрын

Limit in terms of $$ Nol?

@TRV950

6 жыл бұрын

i found its always good to have a TRV handy if the VX acts up

Loved it!!!

But old tube amps are better. Lol

If you don't come from the era, dont bother. VX1MK1 is a vintage look and that's it. Just like using film in cinema and film will always be > mega pixels. (different subject).

@MichaelSvenson

3 жыл бұрын

yup vintage is a style, not a matter of better or worse.

very comparable to music equipment. And the dynamics of it

A good working VX is still worth about $500... If you want to make a really nice looking video in 480p, get the newer FX1000, the lens is incredible, especially in low light, and you can use a fisheye with great results in SD or HD. It can record both on the same DV tapes. Best of both worlds for cheap. I would recommend the FX1000 to any aspiring filmer who wants some options but doesn't have tons of money. It already has a handle and a good mic attached too.

Why did board rails became uncool? And why are they coming back?

I might have to disagree on the tube amp analogy

The VX does definitely have a certain look. It kinda has a warm yellow tint in the footage.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Professional videographers have a name for that: footage that needs color correction. I always used to groan at how yellow the footage would be when watching old skate videos off of Limewire. I used to think it was just a bad upload job, now I just know it was a bad camera.

@MichaelSvenson

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness896 haha damn dude you're just destroying all these peoples dreams haha. I agree though, fact is most filmers aren't well versed in anything related to real deal color grading. Its entirely a discipline unto itself and changes the whole game once you learn it.

dude your videos are so pro and you put a lot of work into it , amazing topics and shit you should have way more subs than you have now

For this winter play SSX 3. The best game ever created.

Are you related to the guy from how to make everything?

Im going to say the sound is like 100% of the reason I don't care about an HD edit while I'm watching it. How you gonna film lines in NY without a VX? Street skating needs VX for life.

old 35mm medium format film cameras actually have higher megapixel counts than most dslr's available on the market ;)

@falerving2588

4 жыл бұрын

Medium format is 120mm:) have one of both, their pretty cool

@luiscadena7265

4 жыл бұрын

@@falerving2588 not 120mm tho

@falerving2588

4 жыл бұрын

@@luiscadena7265 exsplain

@luiscadena7265

4 жыл бұрын

120 film is not 120mm

@falerving2588

4 жыл бұрын

@@luiscadena7265 true, its 6cm x whatever the camera uses

Big old rig? goo.gl/images/AbhMQN its like the same size but lighter

I’m a filmer and I’m still rockin the VX! HD is cool if you have multiple filmers and a lot of time, but if it’s just you and the bois in the streets there’s nothing better than the VX!

@TRV950

6 жыл бұрын

yes and it sucks to look thru and delete clips while your trying to get everyones lines!

@naawwsty7861

6 жыл бұрын

TRV950 yo for real! SD cards keep costs down but they’re a pain in the ass! I don’t mind paying for tapes cause they’re fuckin dope!

Older cameras are just better. The aspects of their recordings that make them 'worse' actually make them more realistic. I'd like to see more vids about cameras that came before the vx1000 as well that were used, such as the vx3 and the Canon A1 Digital Hi8 which was used for Plan B Questionable.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

how does combing artifacts, low resolution, poor contrast, poor low light clarity, and a hugely distorted death lens make it more realistic? This is the most nonsensical thing I've ever read.

@overkill7990

6 жыл бұрын

Because in real life matter has texture and depth that analog recording, with all it's 'flaws', emulates better.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Overkill79 No it doesn't, not at all. Like, I'm beginning to wonder if any of you even *watch* VX footage or just parrot this insane drivel about these things that the VX DOES NOT DO. It's not a vinyl record for crying out loud, it's actually digital, it's just shitty digital. HD does a better job of capturing reality, period. This is an objective fact, it is not up for debate.

@overkill7990

6 жыл бұрын

DerekSiems I watch almost nothing but VX1000 footage when I watch skate videos, as well as footage from even earlier cameras, because modern skate videos look fake and boring.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Overkill79 That has nothing to do with the camera and everything to do with the skating. I somewhat agree that older 90's videos are better because they aren't so absolutely crazy like the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater tricks pros are doing nowadays, but it doesn't change the fact I wish I could watch it all in HD. HD is not a lens or a type of filming, it's literally just better clarity, why is there so much opposition to that?

That new video that Shane O’Neil did on thrasher was filmed perfectly for me, big wide lens, 4:3 and HD it’s rare to see that but it looks great

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

yep. The solution is hd AND 4:3. For example, I think the latest Jamie Foy part would have much looked better with a narrower aspect ratio.

Nice !

I haven't watched SD anything for more than a decade.

I know this video's a few weeks old, and my comment probably won't weigh in anyway, but I think HD is great for skateboarding in a way that SD never will be. For example, 50-50 a crusty, chunky ledge with a rough cracked landing in SD and it won't look like much. 50-50 that same ledge in HD and all of a sudden it becomes really sick, because you can see all the crap that the skater had to ride through. I've seen lines that wouldn't have looked out of place in a video 20 years ago, and the only reason they're legit now, is because you can see how messed up the spot actually is. It makes me wonder about some of those old videos... some of those tricks must be so much gnarlier then they look. I think using SD when HD is cheap and available is doing a disservice to the skater you're filming because the blemishes that make a spot a spot are less visible. Furthermore, you can choose to crop HD to 4:3 if that's yr thing and you somehow think yr fisheye won't look right in 16:9. But I don't get that. Most TV's and monitors are in 16:9 these days anyway. So, why shoot something that will look out of place on the screen yr viewing it on.

@Xmkdco

6 жыл бұрын

It's not only HD vs SD in the camera, we are talking about a camera that costed 3K when it was released, you can't compare for example the optics and the image stabilization of a VX with Go Pro or with a mobile phone video. What you should compare VX with is a camera that costs 3K today. The Hollywood industry moved to digital cameras after 2010 with the Arri Alexa the first digital camera that surpassed film in things like tonal range, color space and latitude which matter in big movie productions. That's like 20 years after digital video first appeared. What I like is to combine SD with HD in a 720p final result. SD for the fisheye and long lens zoom in and out shots. HD for slow motion and panning shots.

What about GoPro and other action cameras? I thought that they are being used now

@CW7_

6 жыл бұрын

They are only used for special occasions when you can't use a real camera because their quality is really bad in comparison.

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your answer. :)

@nnoffuture

6 жыл бұрын

Branislav Šlenker the other comment is inaccurate. The newer versions of GoPro have full manual control over shutter, ISO etc They produce video that (if imported and worked with correctly) is basically the best available to consumers. The only way to get better really is with high speed photography.

6 жыл бұрын

GoPro Hero 6 can make 1080p video in 240 FPS which is more than enough for nice slow-mo shots and it must look great in skateboarding videos

do a video on zumiez "culture"

@nnoffuture

6 жыл бұрын

Fuck this idea

@gershonhopster

4 жыл бұрын

@@nnoffuture Wait no, im curious LOL

Don't forget that the PAL version had even higher resolutions. Instead of 720x480 at 60 Hz it used 720x576 at 50 Hz so 25 FPS instead of 30 FPS

A lot of the footage doesn't match its not the mk1 lens. An the vx1k was funny cuz I had one in the 90s and even then they always broke or you need to constantly get repairs I guess that was just the technology at the time or something cuz soon I had two myself you constantly are rotating them in and out of the shop... But in A lot of ways they were definitely tanks, I mean it has that design bc it was first used in the military so imagine something that could withstand running around a battle field...it served its purpose lol

@peppylafew116

6 жыл бұрын

GBnKrugMan you first say it needs repairs constantly and then you say it's a tank. Make an opinion.

FHD and UHD will kill the art in skateboarding. Plus camcorders are easy to use. And build tuff. And i had a few boards that had FUCK as its graphic

What I hate about hd, is amount of upper body cuts, the sound of skating is so dull Hd needs a better lens

@joeaustin3576

5 жыл бұрын

huh? there are hundreds of different kinds of HD cameras, and you can get fisheye lenses on any camera with a lens mount which is like most hd cameras nowadays...also vx's you need like a 400$ fisheye lens that comes separate from the camera to have the effect you are talking about. Also, sd cameras have smaller sensors than hd cameras, so they are more cropped and zoomed in than an HD camera. 'Also you can get a directional microphone and get much better sound than a vx has. And HD automatically means the sound quality is better because it's recorded in HD and not on a DV tape. Everything you said was so wrong. Just had to point that out, SD does have a cool specific look tho

@MichaelSvenson

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeaustin3576 yeah and any professional sound engineer would laugh at the idea that the vx mic is somehow still better than any other options.

Who invented/named the Salad?

@oliversmith7005

6 жыл бұрын

Ryan Cropper Eric Dresson, it was called the Dresson grind but then friends started calling it salad Dresson then it became the Salad.

@Impossidile

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thank you!

Beagle made the switch

for the record tube amps are better...

Lol, vx will never die because we have find a way to have a tapeless vx haha

s/o real tube sag

HD Footy Is Usually Trash In Looks And The Filmers Stay Cuttin Heads And Hella Ass Shots Idk Whats Up Wit Those DSLR Filmers lol I Hate Filmin Wit One My PD170 Was A Much Better Cam For Skatin The Look The Feel And A Hard Copy Its Not To Crisp Its Like Listenin To A Record Just Sounds Better For Some Reason Lol Or Audio That Runs Through Tubs Idk Just Better Warmer

@wralicdecdat4488

6 жыл бұрын

As For The Golden Tone Just Zoom In And White Balance On Blue Sky lol

Why are skate-parks intentionally made with staircases? Why not just replace the staircases with ramps?

@protojager

6 жыл бұрын

To mimic the street spots that people enjoy skating, jumping over a ramp isn't as cool or impressive looking as clearing a 5-stair. The number of steps can give people an idea of how impressive it is without needing exact measurements of the obstacle. Plus ts designates that obstacle as being intended for a specific purpose, so when you go to kickflip down it there won't be another guy trying to ride up it at the same time.

u r da best

#lewisforever

Idk I like hd better

Real Skateboards,,umm,,lol ,,tommy Gurerro,San Francisco, I would say this is not a surprise since REAL has always been viewed as kinda inner city..90% of skating is still sold to suburbia, USA

“Better” is a relative concept

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

One is better at imitating 90's and 2000's skate videos, the other is better at documenting the actual skateboarding tricks.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

Farine truest comment here. VX only makes sense if you are legitimately filming a throwback video. If it's about the tricks to you, HD is what you want.

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

DerekSiems Yes! Then, I think 4:3 is the best aspect ratio for skateboarding but HD cameras can do that too.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

But why not just film the full 16:9? So what if there is extra footage on the edges? Every screen is 16:9, so what is gained by filming 4:3? The only possible reason I can think of is Instagram because most people are in portrait mode, but personally I think filming purely for Instagram is a terrible idea as a full edit is going to end up on KZread or Vimeo or some other website (unless it's a pro video, then sold digitally or something).

@user-og6ol2im7v

6 жыл бұрын

DerekSiems I think aspect ratio is important for image composition. Important in the same way as placing the subject and its surrounding elements somewhere in a picture. I personally think 4:3 is better for skateboarding and I'd rather have black sides than an image than put the viewer's attention at the wrong places.

Politics was a part of skating back in the 80s because it was tied to punk culture.

FUCK HD SONNNNN lol jk but still I love me some VX. And basically west coast skating = HD east coast skating = VX simple.

Vx1mk1 till I dieeeeeeee

Fuckin a right man ✊🏿

I know this isnt about guitars + amps but tube amps. old or new, will always sound better than any other design. Not because they sound vintage. They simply reproduce guitar better than anything else. There are pros that dont use tube amps but a lot of that is convenience + roadworthiness. Good job keep makin vids ! nice choices of skate footage.

Most skateboarders, being young, just aren't politically minded, so politically inspired deck graphics are rare - unless we're talking skate industry politics, as with Anti-Hero or Consolidated. Even in the late 80s/early 90s, any political board graphics were really just a way to stand out among the glut of skate companies, not to mention that since the industry has traditionally been based in California, any messages would be liberal-progressive by default. Today, though, that liberal-progressive consensus is crumbling. Also, anyone can start a board company. don't see a pro-Trump white nationalist skate company anytime soon, if only because they'd get shit on so bad by the rest of the skate industry that they'd never see daylight again. Then again, there's a market for everything and going by the comment sections alone, I'm sure there's enough angry racists who also happen to skate for such a company to break even. Nazis, like hipsters, are suckers for limited-edition collectables.

VX1000 is good for wine footage. Also, skateboard graphics are really not that controversial, politically. Maybe you think the Donald Trump board is if you're a 13 yr old sticking it to your uptight parents but for adults in the real world they're not offensive. Nobody cares. Swastikas would be offensive, as if we were outlaw bikers (or Duane Peters), but to the best of my knowledge no model was ever made with them (but I may be wrong here), but in general companies seem to censor themselves real fast, pulling boards from shelves if they're controversial or deny a design before production.

Off topic but my least favorite filmer is drpurpleteeth. I hate his filming with a passion.

@Splifffed

5 жыл бұрын

looks like shit, too steady

Bringing politics into business is probably the worst business decision you can make.

@fuckenps3

6 жыл бұрын

Or the best.

The vast majority of edgy skater graphics, decades later, look pretty fucking cringe in hindsight. And pretty much anything ghetto (like the entirety of DGK) is laughable. I’d rather skate a blank.

Haha that's my city at 4:50! What video part is that?

@Geezer668

6 жыл бұрын

Magenta Welcomes Glen Fox

@ps5622

6 жыл бұрын

Geezer668 Thanks man!

Film is higher than 4k resolution for photos so there is an actual argument for film cameras being on par with some digitals. But there is no argument between DSLR and VX.

Do a video on fingerboarding

@mikemendoza5421

6 жыл бұрын

arthur rycyk no

@reJECT0

6 жыл бұрын

oh no

@ThizzyWailer

6 жыл бұрын

You mean fingerbanging

@silentriders

6 жыл бұрын

no

@Mystninja

6 жыл бұрын

arthur rycyk gay. Not down vote as i tech decked and hand boarded. 20 years ago at high school. Yep im old.

I hate almost all vx footage, it looks like a toaster shot it and the keyhole fish eyes distort the image so much you cant tell size or depth. The only time I like vx is when the settings are just right like with gx1000. But most people leave it on the normal settings and it looks like a home video from my 1st birthday.

Although for some SD cameras converting to progressive is awful. Unless you have a Panasonic DVX100

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

This is the biggest issue and why it hands down needs to stop being used. It just doesn't display well on modern screens. Nobody has a CRT sitting around to watch your VX edit.

@BenJonesVideographer

6 жыл бұрын

DerekSiems I can appreciate that fact and while true a lot of filmers and people who still prefer VX content don't have CRT's to view them on as well. They haven't got some janky rig to watch Instagram on there dad's old TV! 😅 But even with the proper export settings it's easy to get a good bitrate KZread video out of it. Although this is just for skating. I do other stuff and use my DVX for all of it and I think I've found a pretty good system

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

bitrate is only one attribute, though. Even with a good de-interlacing filter in editing software, you just aren't capturing as much image data and what is there is much muddier than HD. People were just always told that the VX was the best camera and never learned any more than that. I don't think I've ever met a skate filmer that really knew anything real about camera technology, the just latched on to whatever was hyped the most. VX makes bad footage compared to even cell phone cameras, there's no reason to use it.

@BenJonesVideographer

6 жыл бұрын

DerekSiems oh there's no denying that there is less information captured on a VX then most other SD cameras and obviously HD cameras. Maybe it's because with the fisheye everything is really big in the frame so you don't really need that detail. With the camera being close enough you can really see all you need to.

There is no reason to use a VX in 2017, period. I remember back in the early 2000's getting my first skate DVDs and watching them on my computer and wondering why the image was so much worse than the movies on DVD...it was because it was interlaced 480i VX garbage instead of actual progressive scan. Even back then I didn't like the VX, so I certainly don't like it now. 480i just does not look good on progressive scan HD screens and that's what everyone uses nowadays. Not only is the actual resolution low, but the compression algorithms streaming sites use (where 99% of content is viewed) further distort the image with blocky compression. The best VX footage looks worse than something from an iPhone 3GS on a progressive scan screen. Then there's the matter that I think the mega death lens look is overrated and kind of irritating as it distorts the tricks so much you can't even tell how big the tricks actually are. Modern HD filming feels so much more natural like you're a bystander watching the trick go down instead of shoving your face 3" from someone's board. Death lens filming was a tryhard technique that needs to die off. Don't even get me started on the workflow. Tape is AWFUL to edit from, it takes FOREVER to get clips. Modern HD cameras give you nice, neat little clips that you can compile in seconds. Tape can take hours to comb through for makes. Cost isn't even a factor here as a totally fine Firefly7s ($70) or 8s ($110) shoots great video and good audio and the 8s can use an external mic if you're really picky and you can add a scorpion handle for like $20 and it's the same form factor as a VX. Or, you know, just use your cell phone with a fisheye lens case like most people do. There's just no reason to use a VX anymore. If we were still using CRT TVs I could possibly see a sliver of a point to it, but there's nothing "nostalgic" about interlaced, compressed footage on a progressive scan TV. That's not what you grew up with and it makes no sense to keep using a VX to give that vastly different result than the way it looks on a CRT. Get over yourselves, the VX belongs in the trash.

@mattfreedom2002

6 жыл бұрын

nah

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

yah.

@nunyabusiness896

6 жыл бұрын

s arris Actually, its a ton of objective reasons why no one should film with a VX. I will never understand skateboard filmers' obsession with this horribly outdated camera. If you're making a 90's throwback piece and are going to throw in fake VHS noise and stuff, go ahead, but if you're filming a new video meant to look new, don't use a VX. They may not say anything, but secretly everyone is wondering why the video looks so bad compared to even a kid filming nonsense with his mom's cell phone.

@TRV950

6 жыл бұрын

where are all of your 3ccd videos that you got so tired of making?

@TRV950

6 жыл бұрын

did you ever see photosynthesis ?

Skateboarding is so intertwined with punk culture, and punk culture is about liberal anarchism at its core, so yes skateboarding is fairly attached to a breed of politics.

@overkill7990

6 жыл бұрын

No but skateboarding has often been very un-P.C. as well so not entirely. But these days social attitudes and politics are probably more left wing than they've ever been despite Trump winning so it's not surprising that skateboarding would reflect this.

@00ffdc

6 жыл бұрын

It WAS intertwined with punk culture, but modern skateboarding is about cloud rap, trendy clean streetwear (Anti Social Social Club, Supreme, etc...), and being polite as much as possible (see Braille).

Circular fisheye lens, crop to 4x3, ruin the colors, use a shitty mic. Got it. I really want to know why people enjoy the aliasing on hard edges with that camera.

Also I can tell you as a guitar player none of us are deluded to think old mics or old tube amps are better.

@overkill7990

4 жыл бұрын

Many guitar players and musicians do believe that.

Good idea trying to make that guitar statement, but tube amps do objectively sound better than solid state amps.

32nd

FuQ HD!

#askradrat do you think that turtle shell shoes are better or do you think that modern shoes are better

Its just because skaters arent very smart. The vx1000 look isnt "skateboarding". It was the only cam available at the time, before vx2000 etc. The colors are washed out, image is grey and terrible ccd streaking, antialising etc.

@overkill7990

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. That's when skateboarding was at it's peak and there was a thriving industry full of independent brands. Now it's all energy drinks & Nike.

Im so glad I grew up with skating thats filmed from far away with a widescreen look so I'm not as attached to the shitty vx footage as you guys. New footage looks professional and you can actually see whats going on, VX will die because my generation gives zero fucks about it. People who like vx will be out of skating with their old ass knees and we'll be shooting with real camera finally.

@alexaquiningoc6239

4 жыл бұрын

Shut up you whiny bitch

@overkill7990

4 жыл бұрын

Widescreen with a fisheye makes a big ugly oval. Hate that.

Hahaha i had the trump kkk bloard (i'm black) hahahaha