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@Angelgreat

4 жыл бұрын

In the UK, Francois Graftieaux wants the DNA of the Queen because he claims that his father is a illegitimate child of Edward VIII. Can you do a video on that?

@Autconscipatheonive

4 жыл бұрын

THE OTTOMANS DESTROYED BYZANTIUM, THEY HAVE NO CLAIM

@jamesevans1890

4 жыл бұрын

King Felipe looks like the son of Tom Hanks and Mel Gibson. Does that count?

@BridgesDontFly

4 жыл бұрын

Donald Trump. MAGA 2020

@sanderchristensen4108

4 жыл бұрын

so when you say Karl von Habsbrug the von is pronounced fon because V sunds like F i german

The historically correct answer is the guy with the largest army.

@FabiWann

4 жыл бұрын

That would be King Felipe

@jerrydickerson1111

4 жыл бұрын

so Donald Trump

@Darren67299

4 жыл бұрын

@@jerrydickerson1111 Xi Jinping*

@jacknelson7477

4 жыл бұрын

@@FabiWann Well technically, but the state of Russia has both the largest of the armies, and highest military power rating. In terms of nations. but in terms of monarchs, you are correct, King Felipe

@VVeremoose

4 жыл бұрын

@@Darren67299 does largest mean numbers or effectiveness? Because if it means the latter (and it does), Xi is a child compared to Trump.

One more proof King Felipe have the best claim: Spain can't get a century without Civil War, nothing more Roman Empire than this

@christiandaniel4976

2 жыл бұрын

True.

@prorace_type_r

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds pretty spanish, and roman

@es8346

2 жыл бұрын

A sad and beautiful truth at the same time.

@alexanderrubio7500

2 жыл бұрын

As a spanish myself, I totally agree with your comment as sad as it is.

@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't have the best claim. Ferd and Issy never payed Andrew for his Byzantine claims, thus they never actually bought them off from him.

King Felipes lineage is so deep he essentially has a claim as ruler for almost the entirety of Europe regardless of his Roman claim

@tercomada

9 ай бұрын

Es verdad, incluso podría reclamar la corona inglesa por haber sido Felipe 2 rey de Inglaterra

@ln5321

7 ай бұрын

What could be more Roman than having a claim on all of Europe

@cesarzpontu8886

5 ай бұрын

Are you sure about that claim?

@suevialania

Ай бұрын

The gypsy King!😊

@kedihaha2813

Ай бұрын

that would not only make him the rightful roman emperor, but an emperor of something even greater of rome! the emperor of europe!

It's kinda crazy how the Spanish Crown has claims to some of the most historical kingdoms and empires ever like Holy Roman Empire through Austria, Kingdom of Naples and Sicily, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Ancient Rome and although not supported by legitimists you could even make a case for the former Kingdom of France. As a descendant of Spaniards sometimes I forget how powerful the Kingdom of Spain was during different points of history.

@henryytb

11 ай бұрын

Lately i have being revising and confirming that in fact the Spanish Empire has been one of the most influential European Empires post Rome. Due to the time period it lasted, the geographical limits, the economical power that lasted even after its political and military power had diminished, and its cultural, and (believe it or not) scientific contributions. It had come to my attention based on recent though i had on the importance of the Spaniard currency during centuries, the role of Spain in global trade and culture. The fact that Spain had one of the most interesting approaches to human rights prior to the modern era is remarkable as well as the importance of spaniard universities up to the nineteenth century.

@fernandogarcia3957

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely 💯, but there is a thing called Black Legend of Spain, started when other countries couldn't win on the battlefield so they started a propaganda campaign, which revived every time that was necessary for those other countries' interests. ( I like your summary a lot, I think I'm gonna borrow it 😉)

@nicolasrodriguezmartinez4613

10 ай бұрын

​@@henryytbthe Roman Empire and Spanish Empire are the two Greatests

@bvillafuerte765

10 ай бұрын

@@fernandogarcia3957 Those people who believe and promote that have fallen asleep in all history classes.

@bvillafuerte765

10 ай бұрын

@@nicolasrodriguezmartinez4613 There is a reason for the phrase: Spain, the third Rome.

Nobody expects the Spanish legitimacy.

@olcrimurtoir4532

4 жыл бұрын

Easily best comment here.

@pazg1234

4 жыл бұрын

underrated

@astrofabio68

4 жыл бұрын

just because is Spain?

@olcrimurtoir4532

4 жыл бұрын

@@astrofabio68 It's a reference to some pretty awesome comedy.

@kaybrown4010

4 жыл бұрын

🤣

What if the true Roman Emperor were the friends we made along the way?

@nameless5646

4 жыл бұрын

Is that a one piece reference?

@flynn659

4 жыл бұрын

@@nameless5646 Not sure, but its a meme that the true successor to Rome is 'the friends we make along the way' or an obscure country or person.

@Jobe-13

4 жыл бұрын

Flynn Tom 😂

@marcospedroza7184

4 жыл бұрын

Caesar would kill them all

@tortuga7160

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcospedroza7184 Pirates?

It should totally be King Felipe VI, as he has Habsburg ancestry from his father's Spanish side, and Charlemagne's Frankish blood from the other side, as he is part of the House of Bourbon. Also, he is part of the Capetian dynasty, the oldest royal line in Europe. He also has a relation to the Greek throne through his mother's side, which used to be the heartlands of the Byzantines.

@twanabaiz9516

2 ай бұрын

What Capetian dynasty please ?

@avyay9818

2 ай бұрын

@@twanabaiz9516 The house of Bourbon is a branch of the House of Capet that ruled France for almost all of its post-Frankish monarchical history. The house of Capet is also a branch of the Robertians, the line that Charlemagne belonged to. The main Capet branch ruled France until the late 1200s, the Valois branch of the Capetians ruled until 1589, and the the Bourbons ruled France until the French Revolution. After the war of Spanish Succesuon, the Spanish throne was also occupied by a Bourbon until today. Therefore, he can trace his heritage back through the Capets to Charlemagne.

@EvilSmonker

22 күн бұрын

The holy roman empire has nothing to do with Rome, neither do the Capetians, nor the Carolingians.

@avyay9818

22 күн бұрын

@@EvilSmonker Some people considered it the heir to Rome, even though it really isn;t, and, and Charlemagne was the first Holy Roman Emperor, and he was a Carolingian

@EvilSmonker

22 күн бұрын

@@avyay9818 I realize that some people think they are, but I believe there is little reason to think that besides a western european centric world view that discounts the eastern roman empire’s legitimacy.

King Felipe's claim is definitely the only legitimate one as far as I'm concerned, I mean first of all since he can trace his lineage so far back, he legitimately has the blood of Austrian and Russian royalty in his veins as well so he could easily claim the Habsurbg and Romanov claims for himself anyway. But more importantly, Romans generally did not care all that much about bloodline, they cared about the law which is why plenty of Roman emperors were not related in any way to the previous emperor and they cared about military might which is why some Roman generals could just straight up take the throne for themselves if the army followed them. Felipe has the legal will of the last Roman Emperor and he's the only one on the list with an army. But all of that being said Napoleon definitely has the most entertaining claim.

Surely the answer is: whoever can pay the Praetorian Guard the most money.

@kiharapata

4 жыл бұрын

What evil have I done?

@IrishCarney

4 жыл бұрын

Ave, Emperor Jeff Bezos!

@420judaspriest

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiharapata LOLOL who says that nero or caligula ? or was it another one....oh maybe it was the dick who bought the throne? after the prats auctioned it -.....didius julianus or someshit?

@stompyou2240

4 жыл бұрын

@@420judaspriest I think the Praetorian Guard killed the Emperor for being cheap and put the throne up for sale. Some Noble bought it for like 15 minutes. Some General said 'I don't think so' and marched in and took power. The Noble who thought he could buy power last words were "What evil have I done?" because he said he didn't kill anybody or did anything that bad. The General didn't feel he could let the guy live so the seemingly opportunistic Noble was executed. Don't remember the names of the principals but they were not that well recognized. Not "history famous" like the guys you mentioned.

@viperfanaccount688

4 жыл бұрын

Guilherme Pata being rich

**Sees the name Romanov on the screen** Lenin in his grave: God damnit, we missed some

@tomfrazier1103

4 жыл бұрын

Historic Science, Dammit!

@KIRILL-fl7cp

4 жыл бұрын

You mean in the mausoleum?

@nodinitiative

4 жыл бұрын

*Lenin is his display case :-)

@Kriegs-meister

4 жыл бұрын

how many lennins are still there?

@IvanSN

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kriegs-meister Not nearly enough.

I also opt for the King of Spain. In fact Spain is the real and legal heir to the Roman Empire, it was something it had and still has. Even the Spanish empire was also known as the transcontinental Roman empire, and many of the Roman emperors like Marcus Aurelius or Trajan were either Hispanic or of Hispanic origin. In Ancient Rome, the most beloved land in the entire empire after the Italic peninsula was Hispania, it even had its own senate (SPQH)

@ppb4037

7 ай бұрын

When you also know that he has the title of King of Jerusalem too you will be amazed jajajajajaja KING OF JERUSALEM (crusaders)

@wingedhussar1453

5 ай бұрын

Wasn't Charlemagne the successor of Rome. Tht makes france

@marie7622

5 ай бұрын

@@wingedhussar1453 The king of Spain is a descendant of Charlemagne

@wingedhussar1453

5 ай бұрын

@marie7622 I mean a random bloke in france now could be descend of Charlemagne

@zaccaria101

5 ай бұрын

Trajan was from an Italian family from Umbria. Marcus Aurelius was born in Italy to an Italian family as well. Maybe Hadrian and definitely Theodosius are Spanish. But the other two are not.

What people seem to forget about is in Rome. The title of emperor or imperator was not given based on blood connection. But was actually given based on wealth, influence, and military power.

@fernandogarcia3957

10 ай бұрын

Of those introduced in the video, again the King of Spain is the one who could have had all those resources. Don't worry, it's only a an entertaining exercise, but it doesn't hurt anyone, I think, to acknowledge the fact that the rightful heir is His Majesty the King Felipe VI of Spain (and many other territories by tradition and officially...)

@andyaustin3323

10 ай бұрын

Also there hasn't been an Roman Empire for over 1500 years. People over here arguing about an artificial linage to a non-existent empire like it matters.

@bvillafuerte765

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@andyaustin3323Correction: 500 years and good joke.

@compatriot852

8 ай бұрын

Yeah only during periods like the crisis of the third century

@ondrejpapuk707

23 күн бұрын

THANK YOU SIR

Well, Romanov is a 97 year old artist, and his oldest son is an accountant in the SF bay area. The idea of the Emperor of Rome being an accountant in California just tickles the shit out of me.

@zacharytyler6044

4 жыл бұрын

MashPatayta I love this comment lol

@trekker105

4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Emperor Norton.

@Shadow77999

4 жыл бұрын

a descendant of the emperor of rome is an accountant, incredible lmao

@dataexpunged2827

4 жыл бұрын

Help Me isn’t it Biggus Dickus?

@luanandreas

4 жыл бұрын

If he's an accountant in the economic shithole that is California i'm sure he's fit for the job, at least he knows a lot about inflation

By blood: Russia By conquest: Ottoman By inheritance: Spain

@MrSludov

4 жыл бұрын

And, which is the most important matter, the LEGAL right. Felipe is the legal heir, the one who could show official and historical treatrises, documents and testaments of his ancestors, being them righteous, properly crowned holy roman emperors by popes.

@warman8230

4 жыл бұрын

MrSludov Felipe is from the bourbon house not the Habsburg which can not really give him a claim. The Russians maybe by the house of Ivan but not romonavs the ottomans maybe because they married lines of Byzantine princesses and they also had Constantinople which was known as the “pure Rome” and the Habsburg yes because the owned Roman lands even that doesn’t really give them a claim. Napoleon no no no. So really it’s just the ottomans and Habsburg and maybe the Russians.

@MrSludov

4 жыл бұрын

@@warman8230 Salah, the claim of Felipe would be suported in the fact that the the last Byzantine emperor LEGALY passed the title in his testament to Fernando and Isabel of Spain.

@lookman-2844

4 жыл бұрын

Conquest is all the Romans respected.

@kristinamickwitz3542

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSludov philippe the sixth of Spain will go straight to hell due to bull bullfighting practice!!!

I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.

Extremely interesting! Thank you!

By Roman tradition the Emperor is the one who has the largest army. Phillip VI is the only one who is commander in chief of an actual army of an actual country.

@Seneka51

4 жыл бұрын

All he needs to do now is adopt Jean-Christophe Napoleon and the Western Roman Empire is back in business.

@oscarkronborg7176

4 жыл бұрын

​ Chris Mullen Then just invade some contries (Portugal, Andorra Monaco and Belgium are easy) and would control like half of all that the western roman empire ever had

@moisepicard3417

4 жыл бұрын

@@Seneka51 Jean-Christophe Napoléon will never be a child of Felipe nor will ever represent Spain nor will ever a puppet of anyone, let alone Felipe. He is French. He is a descendant of Napoléon. How dare you?

@MonkeNapoleon

4 жыл бұрын

Bro learn to take comments that are somewhat offensive to you

@darklizard45

3 жыл бұрын

Did you just called Felipe... Phillip?

I think there is only one way to decide this - the Roman way: The claimants have to fight it out in a civil war.

@jacksu43-65

4 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure that felipe wild have quite the high ground over his rivals😅

@redgokudera

4 жыл бұрын

You wanna put the spanish one in a civil war dispute? Are you sure that would be fair with the other contenders?

@zhouwu

4 жыл бұрын

*world war.

@GlobalWarmingSkeptic

4 жыл бұрын

The Habsburgs would win simply by marrying everyone and putting their kids in the will.

@zhouwu

4 жыл бұрын

@@GlobalWarmingSkeptic Which kid? Now that's the question!

12:43 love that you included the up-and-coming and truly charming, Stephan Milo!

This was a GREAT video!

I actually have a member of the Habsburg family in my school. Austria is strange, you'll meet the president in the subway and the grand grand son of the former Kaiser at school.

@elpibelol5005

3 жыл бұрын

Marry her AND YOUR CHILDREN IS GOING TO BE THE ROMAN EMPEROR

@varangiangaming7178

3 жыл бұрын

@@elpibelol5005 not even close

@cosmin2410

3 жыл бұрын

Varangian Gaming if you kill the right people hell yeah

@nc6379

3 жыл бұрын

Ferdinand Zvonimir?

@user-ft3jq5vi2l

3 жыл бұрын

Well tecnically almost every european is descendant of some nobility, so you can genocide your way into most thrones.

This is the kind of argument that can only be resolved with violence.

@6XenYang9

4 жыл бұрын

Magnificent

@ignaciogonzalez7904

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone hire a gladiator

@yeshuamartinez547

4 жыл бұрын

Who can be the conqueror

@annahkurtin9665

4 жыл бұрын

It has been resolved. We plebes would never know. It doesn't concern us.

@axelpetersson5787

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Maupin spoken like a true roman emperor

Felipe VI of Spain. He is perfectly heir to Fernando and Isabel, he is directly descended from them. The last Habsburg of Spain, Carlos II died without issue and left the throne of Spain, in his will, to his great-nephew Felipe de Borbon, descendant (grandson) of his sister Teresa of Habsburg, wife of the King of France, the future Felipe V. from Spain. The other claimant who claimed the throne once Philip had already been proclaimed and was King of Spain, was Carlos of Habsburg who was also a great-nephew of Charles II, grandson of another sister, but had not been named heir by the last Habsburg King of Spain.

What a banger - I will request this at the club tonight

Friend: "Want to go to a bar tonight?" Me: "Sorry, busy" *binge watches videos on claims to former empires*

@dominikweber4305

2 жыл бұрын

How cool, you have no social life and neglect your friends because you'd rather watch videos alone

@nickweimer2118

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominikweber4305 you’re watching the video so you obviously think it’s interesting💀

@TomSmith-jp1es

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickweimer2118 yes but they're commenting on the weird attempt at a brag that just comes across as arrogant and sad, not the act of watching the video.

@milantoth6246

2 жыл бұрын

Thats literally what i did just now lmfao

@rudy2shoes354

2 жыл бұрын

@N Gaming Romulus wasn’t chosen by the senate?

I'm usually pro blood, but how can one argue that bloodline matters when Rome's previous emperors weren't even related? I vote for law and order, and so I go with the Spanish claim.

@ausore9832

2 жыл бұрын

but rome's in italy though, not spain. the italian guy should get it (rome is in italy)

@user-hl6ls8sv4t

2 жыл бұрын

@@ausore9832 that’s not how it works

@ausore9832

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-hl6ls8sv4t yeah it is

@user-hl6ls8sv4t

2 жыл бұрын

@@ausore9832 no

@ausore9832

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-hl6ls8sv4t ye

It seems like we’ve decided on the Spanish claim. Now on to the important stuff, like how do we bring forward the Neo-Roman Empire?

@jamieeddolls5605

10 ай бұрын

If Spain somehow manages to overshadow France and Germany in the EU, I think that would be a neo-roman empire

@jaretos

8 ай бұрын

True, we all agree on Felipe VI, but... how do we bring back the Roman Empire? Do we proceed to arrange a referendum in Rome? Come on folks, bring up some ideas! Looking forward to the Neo-Roman Empire.

@Shiggy_

4 ай бұрын

@@user-yi3cv3ep5j yes I’ve come to the conclusion that the only legitimate successor has to come through the Holy Roman Catholic Church

@donnguyen3795

2 ай бұрын

We already has the European Union, while there is no office title "Leader of European Union" but there is several President position Spanish King can eligible to be in. So ironically it will be the Holy Roman Empire style of government again, but this time with the proper Roman Emperor as the head of state

@tenohira3521

Ай бұрын

just get the pope to crown him or something

I had worked to be done but KZread recommend this video so in that sense I have to/ need to watch this.

I think it would be whoever gets the largest army to Rome

@SacchieILU

4 жыл бұрын

Only one is capable of raising one 🤷‍♂️

@HVLLOWS1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@SacchieILU Turkey France or Russia could all do that.

@SacchieILU

4 жыл бұрын

@@HVLLOWS1999 Turkey, France, and Russia are not led by the Osmans, Bonapartists, or Romanovs.

@HVLLOWS1999

4 жыл бұрын

@@SacchieILU Spain aint go no big army anymore, Italy's army is stronger.

@MikeGill87

4 жыл бұрын

@@SacchieILU Yeah? Which one? The monarchy in Spain is really weak, so Felipe certainly can't...

I mean to be fair, the Romans themselves would probably argue who would be Emperor and each man would eventually build his own faction of sorts.

@fristnamelastname5549

4 жыл бұрын

10th Roman Civil War? Confirm?

@TheBayzent

4 жыл бұрын

They would argue who would be emperor and then form their own factions before the pretorian guard kills everybody and choses a third candidate nobody thought about.

@zamzawarma6865

4 жыл бұрын

@@fristnamelastname5549 10th? More like the 150th

@cageybee7221

4 жыл бұрын

@Jan Sitkowski well the only remnants of the senate would be the Italian legislature, so i guess the ball is in their court now.

@cageybee7221

4 жыл бұрын

@Jan Sitkowski well it certainly resembles an empire in collapse anyway

It was crazily interesting and I had a lot of fun hearing all the arguments for every candidate. Personally I go with you, even though spanish royalty didn't claim it, it's true that the romans valued the legal standpoint, so the Spanish King, Felipe IV is a big candidate. Thank you for this video 🥰

I would have liked to hear about how the spanish empire expanded is the continuation of roman conquests, the only one of the european countries who did something similar to romanization. Plus, for 250 years, Spain ruled half of the western roman empire.

@jaredvale

7 ай бұрын

Yea, as a Puerto Rican I am a descendant of the Spanish and sometimes I say I'm a descendant of the Romans. I use the argument that since Spaniards were descended from Romans, and I'm descended from Spaniards, then in turn I am a descendant of Romans. This just shows you how influential the Spanish Empire was. An entire continent speaks Spanish and has Spanish blood. The Spanish "hispanified" an entire continent through brutal colonization and exploitation, very much like that which their Roman ancestors did. I really believe King Felipe VI of Spain would be the best case for modern day Roman Emperor.

Jean-Christophe Napoléon married a Habsburg today, he really wants that Roman Emperor title lol.

@willmosse3684

4 жыл бұрын

Did he? Haha

@jorgevargascaporali9170

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is true, the countess Olympia von und zu Arco-Zinneberg, daughter of archduchess Maria-Beatrix von Habsburg and great-granddaughter of Karl I Habsburg, last emperor of Austria-Hungary

@willmosse3684

4 жыл бұрын

Jorge Vargas Caporali 😵😵😵

@alexsbt

4 жыл бұрын

@@willmosse3684 Yes, he did so at the Invalides, where Napoléon is burried aha

@ferraresi2258

4 жыл бұрын

The Brazilian Imperial House has Habsburg blood from D. Leopoldina, what means that IF every claimer of the Roman Emperor Title die then the claimer of the Brazilian Throne would be also the claimer of the Roman Throne Btw it will never happen

Not only does King Felipe of Spain has the best claim, he totally nails the Roman Emperor look

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer

4 жыл бұрын

Right! The Romans loved law. Felipe would make the best statue and I think he has the best army in Europe. Plus he speaks a Latin language.

@mindfrappe

4 жыл бұрын

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Don't forget that Roman's could and did select heirs not of their blood. If this was ancient Rome, I could walk out on the street grab a kid, and with the proper paperwork, declare them my heir. So Felipe wins in blood, documents, and Roman style.

@bumin6451

4 жыл бұрын

Gabe Morehouse best army in europe ? Someone doesn’t know about France, UK, Turkey, Germany and Italy. These are the countries with a better military than Spain currently.

@moisepicard3417

4 жыл бұрын

+chris. Felipe does not have the best claim of Roman Emperor. And, he does not secure The Roman Emperor look. He does not even look like a Roman Emperor for you to claim this.

@moisepicard3417

4 жыл бұрын

@@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer Wrong! The Romans loved law that they created themselves. Felipe would not make the best statue. He does not have a good army in Europe nor The World nor existence. Plus, Jean-Christophe Napoléon speaks a Latin Language, too. The Latin Language spoken by Jean-Christophe Napoléon is named, French.

Interesting how three of those lines were cut by the WW1. Trully shows you how much the map of the world changed by this conflict.

Another interesting fact, the brother of the last byzantine emperor technically inherited his brothers title, and when he died he left his title to the "Monarch of Spain"

Let's decide this the Roman way: civil war.

@rvscitoold3816

4 жыл бұрын

UUH I LOVE THIS PART!

@cossaizy6309

4 жыл бұрын

Becomes Emperors* >Get shanked by the praetorioan guard and their commander replaces you

@furinick

4 жыл бұрын

its the 21st century, either 1v1 in a game, a rap battle or a dance battle japanese shord fights are also acceptable i would pay to see any of those

@jwjones1979

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget flat out assassination.

@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache

4 жыл бұрын

Lol China probably had 20x more civil wars I think at one point they had a civil war every time an emperor died

Roman emperor: hey spanish dude, you are now the heir to the roman empire Spanish dude: cool Historians: this means nothing

@johnlevin4567

4 жыл бұрын

I wanted to like, but you were at 69 likes. Sorry little one

@dragonmade8243

4 жыл бұрын

John Levin not anymore you can like now

@meilinchan7314

4 жыл бұрын

Historians: "this means nothing" Spanish dude's father: "Why won't you shut up?" =]

@annahkurtin9665

4 жыл бұрын

King Juan Carlos was the Holy Roman Emperor. Who has succeeded him? Juan Carlos is the sperm donor of Prince William.

@miyamotomusashi7612

4 жыл бұрын

He's not the roman emperor, he's a very naughty boy!

Great discussion! Obviously a lot of different strong and legitimate opinions! I like the “rocking the beard” argument and the “good vs bad Roman” 👍🤣

Good, I'm glad you had the good sense to look at it from the legal Roman view. I 100% agree

Don’t forget that King Felipe’s mom is princess Sofia of Greece (to many the descendants of the byzantines) and Denmark. She is a direct descendant of queen Victoria and also Russian royalty. Spain has by far the most direct line.

@R-H-B

3 жыл бұрын

Through Russian royalty he’ll also have Constantine XI as an ancestor

@MacetazzOpina

3 жыл бұрын

-A Spanish

@MacetazzOpina

3 жыл бұрын

@@Annnto that’s not a fact it’s an opinion because there can be no way to objectively claim a legitimate emperor, I was mostly pointing out the obvious bias of a Spanish person proclaiming it. I’m pretty sure if you dive into genealogy as much there will be people with similar characteristics but they video didn’t. And by the way half of my family is originally from Spain just a couple generations back, so I have no reason to envy Spain. Think harder, thought is not a linear process it’s more like a web stop being so linear

@Didagg

3 жыл бұрын

@@MacetazzOpina still a fact? Dude she is still alive if i’m not wrong, and the op is talking about probability

@AuChoco

3 жыл бұрын

Plus, the Spanish Royal Family also has roots from the Habsburg Dynasty and has had many marriages with Austrians later on. They're also from the Bourbon dynasty from France

King Felipe VI hands down. Rome literally had a period where they put randoms as Emperors so that pretty much makes heirs and bloodlines unimportant and unnecessary. The legal document (his will) should be the only things that matters

@1488EVERGETES

3 жыл бұрын

Felipe VI has already the title of Byzantine emperor and king of Jerusalem too.

@LuanHimmlisch

3 жыл бұрын

@Jason Sehorn nope

Thanks, very fun😂

Great vid. Great pun about the beard. lol

Let's be real. King Felipe is the only one that looks good with a traditional roman toga

@santividal9387

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@ssssSTopmotion

3 жыл бұрын

He looks exactly like a Roman sculpture

@Floral_Green

3 жыл бұрын

Jean-Christophe looks æons more classically ‘Roman’ than the eh’Spaneesh guy. No competition.

@HH-ni5hm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Floral_Green He Kinda resembles Constantine

@raymark2575

3 жыл бұрын

@Timothy Callanan Naww

King Felipe VI makes a good contender because many Roman Emperors "chose" their heirs, sometimes those heirs were not only adopted, but not even related to them by blood. Thus, the legal argument goes onto him.

@JoeMartinez18

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but also by blood on both sides due to their relation to Bourbon, Habsburgs, charlemagne and even the Rurikids

@napolien1310

3 жыл бұрын

Sure your words are true but not when you are getting conquered. That's why I'm going with the Ottomans candidate

@khudaidadkhan1178

3 жыл бұрын

@@napolien1310 I agree. I was simply pointing out that the Legal course of it does infact go with the Spanish. But the last Qaiser-e-Rum were the Ottomans. Therefore I also support them.

@napolien1310

3 жыл бұрын

@@khudaidadkhan1178 oh ok

@LazyPictures

3 жыл бұрын

@@napolien1310 But... Ottoman empire is also broke apart

0:37 Lumber tycoon 2 caught me off guard

can i introduce one last contender, one whose claim would predate the claims of any of the five listed in the video? i havent got a name for them, but the most senior heir of Lucius Tarquinius Superbus, the King of Rome until 509 BC when the republic was founded?

Definitely King Felipe of Spain has the best claim. Can't beat a legal document that says: 'I'm leaving the Empire to you, have fun and best wishes'.

@Innomenatus

2 жыл бұрын

He also is a bourbon of the legitamist line, giving him another claim though as the French crown is derived from East Francia, itself splintered from Charlemagne's empire, as well as also being given the titles from Andreas Palailogos, fusing the titles of Roman Emperor to Phillipe VI, or Augustus Philippus Iohannes Paullus Alphonsus, or Felipe III and VIII in English.

@marcmoris3590

2 жыл бұрын

His name is not on that paper

@kenllacer

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously. We're talking about his lineage, not him as an individual.

@ryanfarrelly4647

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcmoris3590 But those titles are on the papers that left him as King of Spain, which also (surprise) also contains titles his lineage has, who knew that when you inherit something you can also give it to someone else to inherit?

@lisashhotwife2732

2 жыл бұрын

no joke I seen him just a few days ago in Cordoba while I was drinking no idea what was hapenning until someone said that is the king of spain. Amazing how they rocked up like that with very little organisation. Guess it means I seen my first Roman emperor lol.

When you're so early that Romolus Augustus is still emperor

@unflexian

4 жыл бұрын

When you're so early that he is called Gaius Octavianus

@gregmiller9710

4 жыл бұрын

..the last true emperor of Rome...Romulus..

@jamesevans1890

4 жыл бұрын

When Romulus Augustus was deposed and retired, his insignia was sent to the Eastern Empire so technically the Empire was reunited. The Goths ruled Italy in the Eastern Empire's name, if not so much in actuality....

@unflexian

4 жыл бұрын

@@fluffytom82 I read Augustus and my mind jumped the gap 🤦‍♂️

@worsethanjoerogan8061

4 жыл бұрын

@@fluffytom82 He's confusing the last Augustus for the first

King felipe vi has a claim through his habsburg ancestors as well the spanish habsburg line was the more senior and he is a descendent of that line so he has a claim from the byzantine empire and charlemange so has the best claim

THANK YOU, I was sitting here shivering as people went against the law, advocating for unlawful emperors, I was thinking all this time, when will they support Phillipe, someone must support Phillipe, have they forgotten Phillipe. THANK YOU for recognizing Philippe's claim on the roman empire even if it has no bearing on real life

Okay, here's my opinion (even though I'm sure no one cares): First, Charlemagne was absolutely not the emperor of Rome, Rome still existed in the form of what we now call the Byzantine Empire. Then with the conquest of Constantinople in 1453, I can understand the Russian and Ottoman claims, but I really think the Spanish claim is probably more valid. After all, if Constantine XI said that the King and Queen of Spain should inherit their titles, which to me says that he was essentially selecting them as their heirs. If you ask me, that's much more valid than a simple bloodline connection. Edit: Okay, I think the two of us are actually in complete agreement on this

@pumpkinistscam3304

4 жыл бұрын

KhAnubis i love your Channel

@UsefulCharts

4 жыл бұрын

😉

@gregmiller9710

4 жыл бұрын

...'Rome still existed as.....no...Rome was gone and now its Byzantine....kinda like but it ain't..

@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry... I clearly misunderstood; you seem to be implying that a woman - a woman of all things - could be roman emperor. Constantine VI was meant to be emperor, but if Irene took his byzantine candidacy it's Charlemagne 2020! Jokes obviously

@gregmiller9710

4 жыл бұрын

@@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901it's believed that at a few times there where women who were sole emperors in all but name...we have coins of them...

The King of Spain 1) Has legal claim 2) Already a head of state 3) Member of Capetian family, oldest still royal line in Europe 4) Theodoric was given western imperial regalia from Eastern Emperor and Spain is the successor state of the Visigothic Kingdom meaning both titles east and west can be claimed by the Spanish crown 5) A Latin speaker

@adude849

Жыл бұрын

You forgot that what makes him more legitimate is that monarchs inherited it without force just given by the Nephew of the Emperor somehow inherited his uncle's title

@ignaciomoreno9655

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the beard. 😜

@WizavPRO

Жыл бұрын

Romans never had Kings, Capet are French - French are regarded as completely foreign people in Europe whom Justinian wanted to exterminate

@adude849

Жыл бұрын

@@WizavPRO As if you never heard the Roman kingdom

@adude849

Жыл бұрын

@@WizavPROSpanish you mean he dint said the french

@Fiveable - why do you say Irene’s line but then choose Dundar Ali Osman? Wouldn’t “Irene’s line” go to the Russian Romanovs? It is confusing what Fiveable says…? @ 20:53

19:38 Man what the hell is that tie?? That's so cool! You can read his tie if he bores you with what he is talking about lmao.

I think the Spanish claim is the most legit: blood was not that important for Romans as the emperor often adopted their chosen next emperor

@paranoidman15

3 жыл бұрын

wrong, pride and blood are two most important things for romans, from all heirs spain is the one that deserves the least, if anyone should be emperor of rome although it is impossible because once something is dead you can revive it ever, it would be Italy or Great Britain.

@giulia480

3 жыл бұрын

@@paranoidman15 actually as I said adoption was a method largely used to choose your own heir in Rome, so blood wasn’t that important. If you look at the golden age of the empire, most of the emperors weren’t their predecessors sons.

@paranoidman15

3 жыл бұрын

@@giulia480 that's true, but the heirs are still chosen based on spiritual bond which is close to blood, and Spanish King was chosen to heir to Rome because of desperate attempt to gain their attention so that they would fight the Ottomans.

@Javi-lw5ci

3 жыл бұрын

@@paranoidman15 Great britain more than spain? haha Seriously? Spain inherited more from Rome than it is, and as far as I know there was never a Breton emperor, nor is a Latin language spoken there, I'm sure you are English x "d

@Javi-lw5ci

3 жыл бұрын

even france would be a better candidate lol

Turkish guy: *picks Ottoman claimant* French guy: *picks Bonaparte claimant* Really the first guy was onto something when he proposed Imperator Dwayne, of the House Rock

@kaziu312

4 жыл бұрын

Think of it....Dwane The Scorpion Emperor!

@jeanpaulsinatra

4 жыл бұрын

Added bonus: if the Rock becomes the Roman Emperor, we get Wrestlemania at the Colosseum

@skoshman1

4 жыл бұрын

Would that mean that any school sponsored by the Imperator would be... a School of Rock?

@jeanpaulsinatra

4 жыл бұрын

@@skoshman1 Yes. In fact he would employ Jack Black as whatever the Roman equivalent of Education Secretary was

@MrAwawe

4 жыл бұрын

Go forth Dwayne, son of John, Head of your house of Rock, and claim your throne.

16:54 that's not about William 2, the title of Tsar(King) of Poland was added to Russia's Emperor (Empress at that time). Which is one of the reasons Napoleon never tried to mess around Poland's independence and titles

Agree with the end assessment.

Technically speaking, the title has to go to Spain. Russia is no longer ruled by the Romanovs, nor is Turkey ruled by the Osmans or Germany by the Martels. But Spain is ruled by the same ancestry that inherited the Byzantine title.

@atlistihavesenseofhumorlol2051

3 жыл бұрын

Technically, if I'm reading well, that was the Hasburg dinasty the ones that inheritage the Holy Roman Empire, but they died by f*cking with cousins so now Spain have a French dinasty called Burbon

@Kalleosini

3 жыл бұрын

@Frx bx01 you didn't watch the video then. @usefulcharts already said there was a direct line from Philipe VI to the original transfer of the imperial title. This means the king of spain inherits that title despite being a bourbon not a trastamara.

@Kalleosini

3 жыл бұрын

@Frx bx01 you do not understand what you are saying and I feel sorry for you.

@mimicinabox2547

3 жыл бұрын

@Frx bx01 It seems someone skipped the 2:25 mark here...

@debodatta7398

3 жыл бұрын

Technically it’s be Trump since the only country on earth closest to the absolute domination culturally, economically and militarily as Rome was in the ancient era is the United States in the modern era, therefore the most powerful person in Rome would be akin to the most powerful person in the USA...Trump so all Hail Trump Emperor of the USA

What people are forgetting is that a Roman emperor could name their heir and it didn't have to be a genetic descendent... This goes to the Spanish King. Edit: we agree nvm lol

@felipewerner6670

4 жыл бұрын

@John Smith i know you are joking, but dont put Caesar in the same sentence as this soy boy called trump.

@MrLorem64

4 жыл бұрын

@John Smith Trump only commands the puny colonial legions, he doesn't count.

@Mardek775

4 жыл бұрын

A.J. Bensinger I don’t think the Romans would like a Non Roman to lead them. Just saying.

@rabburns3666

4 жыл бұрын

@John Smith the consuls controlled the legions.

@Callsign_Prophet

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mardek775 happened all the time...

My personal take is the Spanish king. Related to Charlemagne Via the Habsburgs being apart of the Spanish blood lines. (I'm aware it's french family but they still had bloodlines from up the tree.) Then they have the legal will of the last emperor.

In 476 Odoacer deposed emperor Augustulus and re-recognized the previous emperor, Julios Nepos (474-475), as emperor of the W.R.E., the E.R.E. also recognized Nepos as emperor again. Odoacer then ruled under emperor Nepos as "King of Italy" until Nepos death in 480. Odoacer sent to Zeno, emperor of the east, the title of Emperor of the West as well. Thus the Byzantine road is the correct one. The king of Spain being proclaimed emperor looks the more promising one since it was officially proclaimed so by the man who inherted both the WRE and ERE titles from Zeno.

Let's be real the only one there that looks like an actual emperor is the King of Spain. He be lookin' like 2020s Trajan

@danielrojas-db9nq

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe because trajan was from Spain

@BicornioSPA

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielrojas-db9nq and Hadrian too.

@MajesticSkywhale

3 жыл бұрын

i look almost exactly like Caracalla

@alejandrosotomartin9720

3 жыл бұрын

Rather Hadrian or Marcus Aurelius. Trajan didn't wear beard. Ask to Mary Beard.

@forgalzz7

3 жыл бұрын

Did actual emperors look like actual emperors, though?

If Crusader Kings II has taught me anything, neither of them has pressed their claims appropriately by war, hence none of them have inherited anything. Now, somebody will have to hold 80% of the de jure territory, have two kingdom-level titles, be really pious and pay 600 bucks to somebody not specified in order to create the title. Then again, since the Roman Empire is now merely a titular empire with no de jure demesne, he would have to make use of the corresponding decision to found it, which requires massive prestige and tons of duchies to be controlled. I'd be curious if they'd choose to mend the schism or restore hellenism, though.

@jakubbezimienia6449

4 жыл бұрын

If I am right, turkish culture changes the name of country so Ottoman Empire could have been in fact Byzantine Empire, but claim of any title lasts only to grandchildren of current ruler, so the head of Ottoman dynasty have no claim to it. We can only wait for another crusade which could restore the Latin Empire.

@PirateMF

4 жыл бұрын

Well, King Felipe has 26 kingdom level titles, holds 8 duchies and 1 arcduchy and probably has tons of prestige (although his marriage to a commoner would have cost him a buttload of prestige), so he is the best candidate!

@mawile3037

4 жыл бұрын

that game. . .is amazing lmao omg, I once caught myself saying " crap I'm my wife now " lmao that games makes you say the craziest shit " how do I kill my son, I need him dead " XD good times. . . good times

@mscapeh4451

4 жыл бұрын

@@jakubbezimienia6449 The turks conqured byzantine so no not fit for rome emperor title if were enemies of it

@neroultraromeo

4 жыл бұрын

glitterhoof is the best candidate

Simeon II of Bulgaria is the last person to hold the title caesar. The bulgarian tsardom was abolished in 1946, making him the last monarch to hold a title derived from "Caesar".

I think that the ottomans, since they were given the imperial symbols of Rome (just like when the western romans sent them to the eastern romans) hold the best claim, also considering that they held the lands of the eastern romans

@jpb2366

10 ай бұрын

Are the brits the heirs of the native « empire » or grand chief just because they conquered it ?

@kestrel5895

10 ай бұрын

They are the only actual direct successor state from Rome in here

@alexanderpejnovic4863

10 ай бұрын

@@jpb2366 Not even one territory conquered by the brits gave them the symbols of their people and culture

Out of all these guys, Dwayne from the House of Rock makes the most sense

@patrickhiggins5970

4 жыл бұрын

@Emperor Louis The Retard no he is samoan

@nigragigra5207

4 жыл бұрын

@Emperor Louis The Retard He has the best claim to Samoas Cocoa and Coconut exports limited. He'll have the biggest fale in Samoa.

@theZinator

4 жыл бұрын

Emperor Dwayne the Rock of Johnson

@FUCCP123

4 жыл бұрын

“It doesn’t matter who the emperor is!”

@susannebemis3311

4 жыл бұрын

or Tom Hanks!

I feel the Spanish have a pretty good claim. It often happened throughout Roman history that the heir was adopted or chosen. And since the Spanish monarchy are the only ones to survive to today, I feel they have spirit of the Romans.

@crframe738

2 жыл бұрын

Also they are descended from Charlemagne, albeit through a female line, so they have a claim even if you think the HRE was the successor to Rome, because the mother of the first count of hapsburg was a direct descendant of Charlamagne and a hapsburg married into the Bourbon family, which still rules Spain.

@brokoblin6284

2 жыл бұрын

They've also still got decently roman looking architecture.

@NapoleonAquila

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah no thanks they tried with France and they failed miserably go for Bonaparte

@theamazinghippopotomonstro9942

2 жыл бұрын

@@crframe738 most Europeans are descended from Charlemagne

@ap6480

2 жыл бұрын

Also one of the best Roman Emperors, Trajan, was born in a city called Italica close to modern day Seville, so it wouldn't be that strange to have a spanish roman emperor

I like your answer 😊

I came back to this for about the third time because of a really pedantic argument with a friend, but I'd like to point out that a Spaniard is as Roman as Emperor Trajan, so we have that going for us as well.

I was rooting for Spain the entire time and was getting a little disappointed when no one was showing Spain love, glad you were big brain there.

@thepeacefulbuddah

4 жыл бұрын

Same fam... same.

@Odo55

4 жыл бұрын

... and he would look best in the crown and robes.

@louisbaker4362

4 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@nick_g1126

4 жыл бұрын

I know right !!!

@sherman128

4 жыл бұрын

Roman Emperors chose their successors so imo Spain makes most sense.

The King of Spain Is not only heir of The Catholic Kings but he is also descendant of the Royal Family of Greece and also descendant of Charlemagne an of the French Monarchy, Felipe VI is the one with more claims to the Empire

@littlecatholicman

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Arvanitidis the Hapsburgs, Osmans, Napoleons, and Romanovs have nothing to do with Rome either? They all just took on the name because of its great history. If anything being a descendant of Charlemagne has by far the best claim as he and his successors were crowned by the still very Roman Pope when the Catholic Church was still the official religion of the actual intact Roman Empire. All the others claims were either manufactured later or rely on the title of Holy Roman Empire. The only better claim would be a direct heir of the Byzantines or old Roman Empire.

@moobles2998

4 жыл бұрын

@Philip Arvanitidis That quote which is so often spoken by the masses was created by Voltaire, an opponent to monarchy in general. He looked at the Holy Roman Empire of his time, and saw that it was, at his time, neither Holy, Roman, nor an empire. What he neglected to inform the masses of, was that in it's creation, it held the city of Rome, it had inflated borders, ruling what many would consider areas which would certainly constitute it being known as an empire, and its original leader was crowned by the pope himself, quite holy if I do say so myself. Yes the late "Holy Roman Empire" was neither Holy, Roman nor an Empire. But the original entity Ruled by Charlemagne, which later became what we know as the "Holy Roman Empire" was in fact in possession of Rome, of Empirical statute, and granted its titles by the greatest Holy authority on earth at the time (if we're roman catholic). Which I would consider to makes it Holy, Roman and an Empire. If king Felipe VI of Spain has a direct succession from a legal standpoint, and is descended from BOTH Charlemagne and the Byzantine Emperors, how could you possibly try to argue that any line has any more of a claim to the title of Roman emperor than he does?

@EvelynElaineSmith

4 жыл бұрын

@Philip Arvanitidis--the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

@laughs2651

4 жыл бұрын

He's also descended from Hugh Capet, Louis XIV,Charles V,Queen Victoria,even William the Conqueror,

@laughs2651

4 жыл бұрын

@Philip Arvanitidis yes u are right. fun fact though : there was a Roman (Gallo-Roman) senator named Tonantius Ferreolus who is a patrilineal ancestor of Charlemagne. Therefore Felipe is descended from him as well,not an Emperor but a Roman indeed. Hes probably linked to a Roman emperor somehow probably but is highly likely we will never know

when the court chaplain explains how he found a claim for you

I was about to comment a bunch of lines in favor of the greatest ignored despite the legal claims, Spain. Until I got to the end of the video, to be surprised. The answer is very clear and unquestionable: Felipe VI has a beard. Point.

King Felipe VI of Spain actually has two claims to be Emperor of Rome. The first one is the line discussed in the video and the second is so obvious I am amazed the guy rocking an awesome beard did not mentioned it. Felipe VI's last name is Borbon. A noble house directly related to the French House of Bourbon. Prince Philippe, Duke Of Anjou in 1700 became Rey Felipe V de España. Since the Bourbons were the last Kings of France before the revolution that makes Felipe of Spain in line to be Roman emperor through the Charlemagne line. That was my two cents.

@herrlizuain70

3 жыл бұрын

You missed the fact that before the spanish throne was habsburg. And there were several wars between bourbone and habsurgs. War of succession in 1700 and the carlist wars during the 19th century. So the spanish have claims to both sides following the logic that they have habsburg heritage and legal claim through heritage in the will of the last eastern emperor.

@mirandagoldstine8548

3 жыл бұрын

Also via the Bourbon’s parent family the Capets the Bourbons can trace their lineage to the Rurikids who did marry at least one member of a Byzantine ruling family and via the Habsburgs they can also trace their lineage to another Byzantine royal family. So technically the Bourbons and the Habsburgs have strong claims to the Roman throne. However the Russians can also trace their lineage to the Rurikids, like I mentioned above, who had married at least one Byzantine princess meaning that if a blood connection was required these three houses would have possibly the strongest claims to the defunct Roman throne. But a fair number of Roman emperors weren’t necessarily related to one another so if we base it on merit then the Bonapartes would be strong claimants to the throne.

@redoberon

3 жыл бұрын

@@herrlizuain70 The bourbons reigning in spain already had claims for the Habsburg titles of the spanish crown. I know it's confusing as hell but if I rememeber correctly Felipe V was related to the spanish crown by his grandma. So technically both claims could be valid.

@spitzfire1107

3 жыл бұрын

But the Ottomans are no more.

@die1mayer

3 жыл бұрын

House of Bourbon has no lineage to Charlemagne and the Carolingian dynasty. The French branch died out with Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine. Who intermarried with Carolingians were the saxon Liudolfings, with Otto I. being crowned first Holy Roman Emperor. After the death of the Lidudolfings came the Salian dynasty which had actual frankish origins like Charlemagne. The last dukes of Franconia were also vying for control of the HRE crown.

Ok the fact that Felipe actually is a current ruling Monarch makes all other "claims" obsolete. All hail to our caesar!

@kennethbandola6908

2 жыл бұрын

Caesar Philippi

@okl4747

2 жыл бұрын

Is he even worthy though for real?

@writershard5065

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... not really.

@kelvastagon

2 жыл бұрын

Viva el Rey de España !!

@enternamehere4124

2 жыл бұрын

VIVA FELIPE!

That one explanation of the Habsburgs, convinced me that those make the most sense to be the Roman Emperor since they reunited East and West ontop of being crowned multiple times by the Pope

Was Prince RomAnov once a guest on the Jack Benny radio show?

I'm honestly shocked that none of those KZreadrs brought up the Spanish Claim. I was ready to start yelling at my computer screen until you finally came in and spit some facts.

@labolachiclosa8111

2 жыл бұрын

x2

@vornamenachname2858

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@marcnawezi1877

2 жыл бұрын

Hum CONQUERED BY NAPOLEON hum

@TMThesaurus

2 жыл бұрын

Jack Rackham at least acknowledged the Spanish claim and said there's a pretty good argument for it, but dismissed it on the grounds that they never really pressed the claim.

@kehana2908

2 жыл бұрын

i'd say it was the hapsburgs or maybe napoleon over the spanish claim but imo the spanish claim to the byzantine throne is the most legit one. i think that the byzantine empire was a bit too different from the roman empire to call it the roman empire. i also like the fact that the holy roman empire and spain are the two places that are actually roman catholcis

Woman: *Thinking* I bet he's thinking about other women right now! Man: *Thinking* Who would have the best claim to being Emperor of Rome?

@jackieclaverton

4 жыл бұрын

Woman: watching video, not thinking about men at all! Unbelievable eh?

@82dorrin

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackieclaverton Well, men allegedly think about sex every seven seconds. (Yeah, no we don't).

@doubtful_seer

4 жыл бұрын

Onyx1916 other way around, actually.

@theidiotphilosopher13

4 жыл бұрын

@@82dorrin Well . . .

@beefj3rk

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackieclaverton you realize he's refrencing a popular internet meme right

WOW!! This was a fantastic and fascinating video! I can't believe I disagreed with every historian....until the very end. Everytime they made a point I kept saying "What! What about Roman law?" So, yeah, it would totally be the King of Spain!

@ppb4037

7 ай бұрын

And also is the King of Jerusalem 😂

I also vote for the handsome king Felipe

Byzantine is a convenience of Historians. They never called themselves Byzantines, they called themselves Romans.

@einbatixx4874

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I read that the word "Byzantine" has only been used since the 1800s.

@middler5

4 жыл бұрын

The Greekest Romans ever.

@rhombusgil

4 жыл бұрын

Byzantine was from Byzantium, a name of a place. It was thought to be the first name of istanbul just before it was called constantinople

@evanracer9

4 жыл бұрын

They were Greek, but referred to themselves as the Roman Empire, and many other states referred to them as the Roman Empire as well.

@middler5

4 жыл бұрын

@@rhombusgil It might have been settled and named something else even before that.

Spain also makes sense because they went and did the Roman thing. Conquer the New World!

@Castillodearagon

4 жыл бұрын

yes, the Spanish basically brought the roman law to America, and did what Rome did, they brought and funded institutions based on Rome to the new world.

@LucarioBoricua

4 жыл бұрын

Spain also followed in with many other traditions: * Exploited the valuable minerals from their conquered lands, just like the Romans did to Spain * Built an extravagant multicultural empire, THE superpower of their respective era, with a very self-serving mindset * Had a long decline until a rising great power dealt the final blow (for Spain: Spanish-American War) * Theocratic rule (Christian Rome, Christian Spain) * Spain built up on the old Roman saying NON PLVS VLTRA (nothing beyond [the Pillars of Hercules/ Strait of Gibraltar]) and really had quite the extravagant PLVS VLTRA (their New World conquests)

@OverthinkerYT

4 жыл бұрын

@@LucarioBoricua El imperio Español fue el último imperio clásico, digno heredero del Romano en lo colonial como en lo militar y a mi parecer hicieron mas bien que mal en América. Dudo mucho que la palabra "Boricua" hubiese llegado hasta nuestros días bajo otros imperios coloniales de la época

@lenidelarosa47

3 жыл бұрын

@@OverthinkerYT PLUS ULTRA el sol no se ponia en el imperio español

@lordofhostsappreciator3075

3 жыл бұрын

@@LucarioBoricua Stay mad

I like how the HRE enthusiast got immediately followed by the HRE Skeptic 😂.

I agree with your opinion following your arguments as well as the fact that each emperor git less roman. So the next emperor should have been approved by the former or by the former prefered king

The Roman Empire was never really a hereditary monarchy. Whoever has the largest army gets to decide if he is Roman Emperor.

@oscarkronborg7176

4 жыл бұрын

That means king Felipe VI of Spain because he's the only one that is the leader of an actual army

@a-drewg1716

4 жыл бұрын

it just kinda matters. Sometimes the Emperor was voted on by the Senate, sometimes they just barged in with their army and were like "hey I am the emperor now", sometimes the heir was picked by the previous emperor (could be a family member, best friend, or some bloke off the streets), sometimes it was decided after a civil war, and sometimes the emperor was place as a puppet either by the Senate or a general with a big army.

@jongrover8763

3 жыл бұрын

The Roman Emperor was decided by power, not by law or blood. The current empire of Europe (The European Union) and therefore the Roman Empire is run by Ursula von der Leyen. She is the president of Europe and so she is the current Roman Emperor.

@splaar

3 жыл бұрын

In that case, Felipe VI, since he's the only modern heir who actually has an army

@jameskilgour387

3 жыл бұрын

So... Roman Emperor Xi?

If we are going with the Spanish Claim it’s also important to remember that Spanish Kings also descended from Karl V of Austria/HRE , linking the two empires together in Felipe’s Claim

@harz632

Жыл бұрын

I think "Roman Empire" is something we couldn't really go with, I think you would have to differentiate between western and eastern roman Empire. The HRE existed besides the Byzantine (eastern roman empire) so if we accept their claim to the roman empire title it would only be that of west Rome Following the arguments for the Spanish those would be the Eastern Roman Empire So I think we would have a eastern roman empire in Spain and a western roman empire in Austria for maximum confusion.

@WizavPRO

Жыл бұрын

Whatever I say will turn into heated debate full of anger and hate - but truth is, Spaniards are Visigoths who settled from North to South - Favila, Pelayo, Mauregato are Visigoths and modern Spaniards are completely unrelated to Roman world just like French or Italians (who are also French). Keep in mind that any relation to Germanic peoples and race makes you automatically disqualified

@moritzreinhard2504

Жыл бұрын

@@WizavPRO nonsense. Many of the late western roman emperors had germanic or otherwise "non-roman" descent. Even earlier in fact, Aurelian (restitutor orbis) for example wasn't even born in roman territory.

@alvaropk5494

Жыл бұрын

Carlos 5 was also spanish king

@saikrishnak8631

Жыл бұрын

Nope, if the last byzantine emperor had a will to pass the throne to Isabella and Ferdinand of Aragon. their grandson Charles 5 Hapsburg's line is the better one. so, it should pass to Karl Hapsburg. because it was the French who set up a king in Spain after wars of Spanish succession. and he is of the bourbon dynasty. The current king of Spain is also of the bourbon clan. and coming to Russia the blood line of Byzantines has already faded away. As many times the throne was passed to others other than the dynastic rulers hereditary line. it is not a good idea. Through the imperial families it should be a Hapsburg.

I’d say there’s an argument the true heir is the Pope. Only monarch in Europe to actually have control over a part of the city of Rome and the only guy to actually have a title that belongs to any of the real Roman emperors, and those are the things that actually give you right to the Roman Empire, it was never really the same type of dynastic succession that you find in medieval and modern monarchies

Oh hey it's Stephan Milo! A welcome surprise

Amazing how impartial these historians are, picking their own countries

@LittleSpik17

2 жыл бұрын

EXACLTY my thought

@yantantethera689

2 жыл бұрын

LOL, it's just a thought exercise!

@sinoroman

2 жыл бұрын

*All statements from historians should be taken with a grain of salt*

@rashidsabri7319

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, upsets me to see it but I think worldview plays a bigger role than cultural bias when making this opinion, both of which (influences) are backed by the same decision.

@marcinkrz3140

2 жыл бұрын

@@rashidsabri7319 due to it's nature, history is always biased towards someone .

Imagine thinking Charlemagne was a legitimate Roman Emperor This post was made by Byzantine gang

@sneedsfeedseed9905

4 жыл бұрын

Me dabbing with my brainpower on those Germcucks larping as Romans

@teologen

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. There’s no connection between the Western Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, so I don’t know why they started with Augustus.

@ejoarkhamgamer567

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine having a title like Basileus This post was made from the Charlemagne Gang

@Lmer-yx7vm

4 жыл бұрын

EJO Imagine thinking the HRE was Holy, Roman, or an Empire This post was made by Byzantine gang

@greyjay9492

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking that Spain and Russia are the heirs to Byzantium. This post was made by Ottoman Gang

How did I predict the one with the tattoo was going to pick the Ottoman line?

I think it’s laughable that ppl would think that the Ottoman Empire was the continuation of the Romans

Also Romans: "Stop quoting laws to those of us with swords"

@QemeH

4 жыл бұрын

(Alledgedly) spoken by Pompey during the siege of a fortress loyal to cesar in the civil war. Those were the words of a terroristic rebel/freedom fighter (depending on perspective). Most romans were quite the opposite, they took pride in their legalism.

@mikeottawa8158

4 жыл бұрын

Patrician Romans , Like any othr corrupt aristocratic group through-out hstory , quotd Laws and ruLes whn-evr suitd thm, but wr fast quik to dsmis Laws ruLes whn-evr convnient

@cageybee7221

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeottawa8158 did you overdose on stupid pills?

@Dylaz97

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeottawa8158 Why do you hate vowels so much?

@5h0rgunn45

4 жыл бұрын

My heart wants to believe King Felipe is the rightful heir. But my head tells me it's Dundar ali Osman. After all, legalism is all well and good, but even in Roman law, possession is 9/10ths of the law. If a man murdered the previous emperor and was proclaimed the new emperor by the religious leaders and the military... he was emperor. There are many examples from Roman history of such usurpers.

KZreadr: I'm gonna go with Russia or Ottomans Spain: So you have chosen death by the inquisition?

@tas766

3 жыл бұрын

Spanish inquisition did not "kill" as much as ppl think they did. As per our friend "google" : According to modern estimates, around 150,000 were prosecuted for various offenses during the three-century duration of the Spanish Inquisition, out of which between 3,000 and 5,000 were executed (~2.7% of all cases). So at the end, we keep on trashing the neighbour, cause at some point he had a bigger yard than us.

@jmmh1313

3 жыл бұрын

@@tas766 yeah. But i think nowadays its just a meme so please calm down xd

@gamerus3918

3 жыл бұрын

@@tas766 English and French inquisition killed more people.

@jeanpol1836

3 жыл бұрын

@Son of neptune Bruh it's a joke

@tas766

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeanpol1836 yep, I know the meme, but as many others when I was young (ages ago...) I always thought that the worst ever inquisiton was the Spanish by far. I was so wrong, but it was understood somehow like that in those times.

"Has no simple answer" ye it fucking does the best claimant is, as always, whoever can muster legions to take the city.