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@tbjpersonal

Жыл бұрын

What year was the bonus image from? You voiced it as though it was from earlier but didn't give a year range. Thanks for the video, was a good watch.

@1111comment

Жыл бұрын

#4 looks like he just got back from his trip to India

@tubularfrog

Жыл бұрын

Great. Now lets see depictions of Mohammed throughout history. You might want to update your last will first.

@foerest

Жыл бұрын

It says what he looked like in Revelations "His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire"

@davidallen346

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was a shape shifter

Greek is an incredible language. I'm greek and I can read and understand, what a greek dude wrote 2.000 years ago

@shadowmistress999

Жыл бұрын

meanwhile Chinese: hey this word written by our ancestor looks like a horse! lmao 🤣

@dangeroustoman

Жыл бұрын

Well if you can you should make videos of reading some of those old books. Point out the words as you go along with your finger.

@darren1934

Жыл бұрын

lol 2000 an you still can understand whats being said...in context. hmmmmmmmmmm . haha .same spoken crap for 2000 years. i dont believe you.

@musaad9326

Жыл бұрын

@@darren1934 I can easily read 1600 old Arabic texts easily

@darren1934

Жыл бұрын

@@musaad9326 lies cgi

Imagine being a Roman drawing a shitpost about your Christian neighbor/friend/coworker and becoming part of history

@TheEnabledDisabled

Жыл бұрын

Chad

@cgt3704

Жыл бұрын

Thats how Killroy meme was born

@kharankhuin7379

Жыл бұрын

Us

@zekun4741

Жыл бұрын

The fact that the earliest depiction of the Crucifixion of Jesus is anti-Christian shows just how unpopular the Christians were among the general population. It also shows that even pagan children knew quite a lot of the details of the Christian faith

@neochris2

Жыл бұрын

One really has to remember that before Christianity went mainstreamnin the Empire, it sounded quite ridiculous to the Romans. And Christians were considered misguided fanatics.

Omg! I’m Greek and I can read the Ancient Greek very easily in the first depiction of Christ. Our language has not changed in thousands of years!

@guyweisz7811

3 ай бұрын

Same goes for several Semitic languages (Hebrew, Arabic...)

@andreasmrbill

3 ай бұрын

so is turkish

@gieartworks6625

3 ай бұрын

so does apes language never change to this day

@MrSomebodyyy

3 ай бұрын

Modern greek is a made up language, just like hebrew

@Joao-id4dn

3 ай бұрын

how come latin has changed so much and turned into italian, spanish, french, etc, while greek didnt? my guess is that , apart from roman aristocrats, roman citizens never spoke traditional latin, but always a regional different latin dialect.

There was a home excavated from the volcanic ash in Pompeii that had a cross painted on the wall over the bed so people knew the biblical story of Jesus in 79AD and worshipped Him.

@druidriley3163

2 ай бұрын

Can you cite your source? I've read this from other commenters but no one has been able to steer me to where this was actually found by archaeologists.

@polymorpheus2846

2 ай бұрын

@@druidriley3163 im joining in on this thread

@irenes4939

2 ай бұрын

I was curious & read a couple articles about archeological presence of Christianity in Herculaneum and Pompeii (Cook, 2018; Longenecker, 2019) and the closest I can find to your claim is discussion about graffito inside a Pompeian residence (no reference to a bed) that may or may not include a specifically Christian cross - it may not even depict a cross at all, according to Cook, but Longenecker is pretty convinced it a Christian cross. Visible presence of Christians in Herculaneum and Pompeii seems to be a pretty heated dispute between early Christian scholars from what I'm able to discern as an outsider at 4 am

@druidriley3163

2 ай бұрын

@@irenes4939 Thanks for the info. The only thing I found wasn't recently but from years ago, also disputed, about cross-shaped damage to a wall. It appears to be above an altar or table of some sort. Some claim a cross was there and it was wrenched off the wall when the occupants left the city. Others claim it was just a shelf that was attached to the wall and at some point was ripped off in the pyroclastic blast.

@edmundlubega9647

Ай бұрын

Was the cross at that time a faith symbol for Christians? I thought it was a fish

What’s interesting about the bonus image is that underneath “Alex worshipping his God”, someone added graffiti saying “Alex has faith.”

@superduck6456

5 ай бұрын

Wait, really?

@noelhoffman2184

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but it isn’t “Alex” It is “Alexamenos is faithful”

@whoami8434

4 ай бұрын

@@noelhoffman2184 Not sure why, but this really touched my soul. I bet he was smiling when he (or someone else) wrote it (if it indeed has the meaning I think it’s intended to have). Anyway

@cheycheyasmr7887

3 ай бұрын

that’s beautiful dude

@imppro

3 ай бұрын

Based Alexamenus

This is what I like about KZread. It would've taken me years to gather up this information from libraries and international traveling.

@josephccallum6698

Жыл бұрын

Go back to the drawing bored sure all of that sounds good and your photos don't fly right with your Caucasian Jesus

@PhelanVanFloof

Жыл бұрын

@@josephccallum6698 What are you talking about?

@feelthejoy

Жыл бұрын

Google exists though

@huntertrum3658

Жыл бұрын

@@feelthejoy I'd rather watch a 16 minute video than go down a potentially multi-hour long rabbit hole, just to achieve the same information in the end.

@PhelanVanFloof

Жыл бұрын

@@powerofyahinyahshua4825 What's your point? These are de facto the oldest depictions of Jesus.

I live in Australia. There is a church that I used to walk past every day that is, I presume, run by Korean Christians. Every year near Christmas they would put up a painting of the nativity outside the church. A big ol' picture with a barn, baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, three wise men, etc etc. In their depiction Jesus, Mary and Joseph were all clearly Korean, wearing old-fashioned Korean clothes. The three wise men looked like Confucian scholars.

@MRconfusedboy

4 ай бұрын

hilarious

@roughysk9851

4 ай бұрын

@@MRconfusedboy ofc it's also hilarious when jesus looks like european haha, he's clearly middle eastern, born in modern day israel, he's a levant

@chickennugget3392

4 ай бұрын

😂

@shable1436

4 ай бұрын

​@@roughysk9851people looked different thousands of years ago as well, all the wars, prisoners moved around, the migration patterns of tribes, and things are not quite as you see them with your modern bias, there're many examples of this from north Africa, to Egypt, to think that the gals were the only "European" looking ones is a mistake, and to think everyone looked like Arabic is also wrong, there's clearly pictures of light skinned ppl from thousands of years ago way before Jesus was born, from the sea ppls to caucuses. The middle Mediterranean had mixtures of all types because of ships ports scattered all over the sea, for instance Carthage, and look at the Berbers, there was so much migration going on back then that what we think of as a jew today isn't exactly what they look like now

@manusibichan1982

4 ай бұрын

@@roughysk9851 *Palestine

I'm in my 80s. My father was a minister. Even I at a young age knew that the 1940s picture couldn't be right. There where many jews in our community, and non of them looked anything like that picture. Yes I have wondered what Jesus may look like. But I know, no matter what he may look like physically, my knees will bow before him.

This is the gold standard of how a top 10 video should be.

@thegrapeescape87

7 ай бұрын

Too bad there is so much missing information on each time period and some faulty facts.

@kennethmeeker6369

6 ай бұрын

@@eliohayek8955anything in excess is idol worship for the most part , your and my phones for instance could be a form of idol worship.

@SG-pb5v

5 ай бұрын

​@@eliohayek8955stop this

@bolinfan1519

4 ай бұрын

You make me laugh.

@maukachauka8793

4 ай бұрын

Personally disliked it right at the beginning: I mean how do you make a Jesus video and start using C.E instead of A.D.

tbf depicting other races is hard, I remember in Catholic school the Nuns had brought portraits of Mary from various countries and it was so interesting to see how she varied, Samoa made her look Samoan, Japan made her look Japanese etc. It's not necessarily malicious.

@joedatius

5 ай бұрын

i would love if that was the case but over the course of history the church became increasingly white supremacist and viewed any depiction of jesus outside of white European views as either lessor or simply wrong and countries adopting Christianity as lesser people who needed to be saved from their "savagery"

@emilerose1424

5 ай бұрын

If depicting other races were as "hard" as you contend, then artists would never be able to draw anyone except people who look like themselves. Further, artists rarely draw Satan as looking like themselves; instead, they tend to draw the devil as looking like "the other." Your comment is well intended but isn't adding up.

@abilea4081

5 ай бұрын

@@emilerose1424 Never said it was impossible but it is harder if you've never done it. It was literally an exercise in art classes to draw someone with opposite features than your own for that reason. Same reason anime artists struggle at depicting black or south asian features or why medieval artists struggled at accurately depicting race and age of subjects they weren't familiar. Art styles also may be based off of certain races, look at eastern orthodox artwork, everybody had the same face shape and same length noses etc. because those were features artists were used to drawing. You're taking this very personally whereas it's simply just a natural thing people subconciously do

@NesrocksGamingVideos

5 ай бұрын

@@emilerose1424It was especially hard in ye olden times when you didn't travel much or at all. Literally everyone you knew looked alike. And even if the artist did travel it would cause an uncanny sensation on people looking at it for the same reasons mentioned, so it would be best to draw Him looking "normal".

@daveatkinson1042

5 ай бұрын

the problem of drawing other races is that they often end-up in absurd caricatures that nobody likes@@emilerose1424

The drawing from the catacombs is depicting my favorite story of Christ healing someone, the woman who touched his garment. It’s also one of my favorite hymns: Touch The Hem Of His Garment

@gretchenrobinson825

3 ай бұрын

She's been menstruating for years and wasn't Jewish. The passage says that when she touched his rove he felt his power go out of him (for a moment). This is again magic or making him seem like he has supernatural healing powers. People then, (and now) go to Christianity because 1. They want to live forever (see the image of Lazarus being raised) 2. They sought someone who could heal them. In theology I made up a story about this unknown woman and pictured her as a rape survivor with a psychosomatic condition whereby she keeps menstruating. This was a big heretical to some of my Christian classmates but they could see that this story could be put into a modern context for mental and emotional healing.

@druidriley3163

2 ай бұрын

Very similar to cultural beliefs. That you could 'pick up' someone's blessing or good luck simply by touching them, their hair or their clothes. Famous story of the woman Valeria in the 1st century bce, who plucked some threads from the toga of the Roman dictator Sulla, and he felt her touch his toga, and turned. She explained she wanted to pick up some of his good luck (Sulla was famous for it). He was charmed and later married her.

@martinkent333

2 ай бұрын

Type Moses online and discover that there is no evidence for Exodus and Moses. What's up with that?

if i had a time machine i’d 100% make someone paint an accurate portrait of him for everyone to see years later. how special that he have art from so long ago

@OrthodoxInquirer

3 ай бұрын

They may have and they might have been destroyed during iconoclasm. It's hard to wrap your head around what might have been destroyed. Even documents supporting icons may have been destroyed. At least the Sinai image was in the desert and was left untouched.

@urmom72364

3 ай бұрын

if you search up jesus face reconstruction, you'll find an image that may have been close to what he historically looked like, no one has any remains of jesus so theres no concrete proof his face looks like that, but scientists used archeological evidence of other galilean semites of his era, unless we have a time machine we will never rly know what jesus looked like but his face reconstruction might give a historically accurate perspective on how he probably did look

@susanivy3619

3 ай бұрын

They may have what? Developed a time machine? Please tell me that's *not* what you are referring to.@@OrthodoxInquirer

@frauleenijssens9353

3 ай бұрын

They did, but they were of Julius Caesar! Look up F. Carrota's Gospel of Caesar...its a slam dunk to explain why he looks Roman in some of the earliest art of Jesus. Been learning a lot about Roman times during Caesar's reign...many parallels with our own current politics. Yikes.

@ethana.9812

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure he'd take your machine away lol

as someone who is orthodox, the interpretation of the first icon (the Pantocrator) that’s generally accepted is that the “angry” side represents God the Righteous Judge, while the “kind” side is God the Lover of Mankind with the gospel being where the message of both comes from

@ereniyegah142

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree

@kumarg3598

Жыл бұрын

How is this still monotheism?

@anttibjorklund1869

Жыл бұрын

@@kumarg3598 How is any person with different personalities still considered one person? Don't you sometimes feel anger and other times happiness? Or sadness? Are you a different person in each case?

@anttibjorklund1869

Жыл бұрын

@@thearbiter3351 I'm a priest myself. I was just trying to explain to @Kumar G how there can be two aspects in one person, like the OG explained.

@thearbiter3351

Жыл бұрын

@@anttibjorklund1869 ohh sorry my bad, didn't read it correctly

Just want to point out that the “going backwards” strategy here actually created real dramatic tension! A great job on this, as always, UsefulCharts!

@Iamthewarner557

Жыл бұрын

*Message for Christians from God:* *They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the Messiah(Jesus), the son of Mary while the Messiah(Jesus) has said,* *O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.* *Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.* Quran Al-Ma'idah (5:72)

@wacharaboy

Жыл бұрын

Yes! When the narrator said "I'l be doing it in the form of a countdown" my first thought was "please let it be chronological and not the 'coolest'"

@tempstep4058

Жыл бұрын

@@Iamthewarner557 The Quran comes 600 years after Jesus and His followers from an Arab man, not a Jew, and tries to tell us the identity of Jesus. Jesus is of course, divine, but he's not Allah. He's the true God of the Bible, who can do one thing that Allah cannot do. Believe on the Son of God and be saved before it's too late. Allah cannot save, he's a creature.

@Iamthewarner557

Жыл бұрын

@@tempstep4058 "GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:" *And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”* He will answer, *“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?* *If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.* *You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.* I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: *“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.* *If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.* *Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.* *Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.* *To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.* Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120) 👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day. Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God. 👉[Jesus said], *“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”* Qur’an 19:36 👉Jesus declared, *“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.* Qur’an 19:30 👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:” *O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.* *It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.* *So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.* Qur'an 2 (21-22) 👉Allah almighty says, *O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.* Qur'an 82(6:8) *"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."* This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind. Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin. (And I recite to you Allah's Statement:) 👉Allah almighty our creator says, *Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."* *If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."* Qur'an (3:64) 👉Allah almighty says, *Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.* Qur'an (37:5) *Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.* *Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.* *There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*

@Iamthewarner557

Жыл бұрын

@@wacharaboy "GOD'S MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:" *And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”* He will answer, *“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?* *If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.* *You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.* I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: *“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.* *If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.* *Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.* *Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.* *To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.* Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120) 👉This Conversation between Jesus(PBUH) with Allah Almighty will take place on the judgment day. Allah has already informed us in his Final revelation Quran so that people like you who think that Jesus is God may come to know truth that Jesus is a Messenger of God. 👉[Jesus said], *“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”* Qur’an 19:36 👉Jesus declared, *“I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.* Qur’an 19:30 👉“God almighty gives message to the whole world:” *O Mankind, submit to your Lord Who created you and those who were before you; in this way only you may expect to save yourselves.* *It is He Who has made the earth a bed for you and the sky a canopy; and it is He Who sends down rain⛈ from above for the growth of every kind of food products(🍇🍉🍎🍓🍒🥝🥥🌽🍊 )for your sustenance.* *So, when you know this, you should not set up equals to rank with Allah.* Qur'an 2 (21-22) 👉Allah almighty says, *O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.* Qur'an 82(6:8) *"In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful."* This Message is from the slave and Messanger of Allah Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) to the Mankind. Peace be upon him, who follows the right path. Furthermore I invite you to Islam, and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin. (And I recite to you Allah's Statement:) 👉Allah almighty our creator says, *Say, "O people of the Book! Come to what is common between us and you, that we worship none but Allah; that we associate nothing with Him and that none of us shall make as our Lord any other than Allah."* *If they reject your invitation, then tell them plainly, "Bear witness that we are Muslims (who worship and surrender to Allah alone)."* Qur'an (3:64) 👉Allah almighty says, *Your real Deity is but One. He Who is Lord of the earth and the heavens and of all that is between them, and Lord of all Easts.* Qur'an (37:5) *Allah is our creator who gives life and death and will again resurrect us on the day of Judgment.* *Fear Allah & Worship only Allah without any partners.* *There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is his Last and Final Messanger.*

I watched the PBS special From Jesus to Christ, and there was one early depiction of Jesus which I didn't see you display, though I can't recall exactly where it was taken from. Thank you for the edification, the images are quite enlightening in showing the various artistic styles from various areas and eras. ✨😊

Appreciate your research to provide us with pictures and drawing of how Jesus was portrayed in earlier centuries. This is one of a kind discovery for us and once again thanking you for bringing to us a Saviour we had never seen before. Almost unimaginable!

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

No education eh?

It makes perfect sense for there to be more than one interpretation - beard or no beard - because he wasn't always the same age... He had different haircuts... And then eventually people settled on one look or style. Pretty amazing. This video affirms a lot!

@UzitheSaint

5 ай бұрын

There was also a depiction of him in Russia. Depicting him with dark skin and whitish hair. Pretty interesting

@withlessAsbestos

5 ай бұрын

@@UzitheSaintWell the White hair may have been derived from his depiction in Revelation.

@UzitheSaint

5 ай бұрын

@@withlessAsbestos yeah and it’s weird that it’s never depicted but then the image that is the most popular is the one of Cesare Borgia which looks nothing like the biblical description

@freestonew

5 ай бұрын

was a tradition where Jewish people wore no beard until a certain age or got married? Thus he probably wore a beard near the end of his life. Come of age at 28 or 30: I am not clear on the tradition of when the hair on the face. Thus both types of images would exist.

@mihviixivxx5769

5 ай бұрын

if I had to guess I think it comes from evolving beauty standards for men. It was probably more popular for younger men to have short hair and be clean shaven during the times of Jesus' early depictions but over time beards become more popular and then we see depictions of Jesus with a beard. However idk if these were the real beauty standards of the time I'm just guessing.

Given the heavy persecution the Christians faced during the first two centuries, it's not difficult to imagine that religious depictions from this era would have been destroyed or defaced to a massive extent (if made at all, since the stigma and fear associated with being a follower of Christ would have prevented it).

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Gfgf Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

@delightk

Жыл бұрын

@@Juan-lf6qo interesting

@glorytofathersonandholyspirit

Жыл бұрын

Agreeable. Also, the Church went through a period of persecution from those who believed in the heresy called “iconoclasm”. MANY icons (images) were destroyed under this heresy that swept through the Christian East and West.

@glorytofathersonandholyspirit

Жыл бұрын

2 minutes in and realized he mentioned exactly what I said 😂

@lolmanyeah1

Жыл бұрын

Nah more like how Muslims won't let you draw Muhammad, early christians wouldn't let you depict Jesus.

Wont matter what depiction we have on Earth. As soon as we see Jesus with our own eyes, we will know him.

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

200,000 raped altar boys found out the hard way that Jesus is a myth. Ditto Jehovah God. They still can't sleep at night, Dude. How educated are you?

I'm gaining so much insight from this video. Your expertise in [topic] is truly remarkable!

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

No critical thinking skills, eh?

@JonathanGeorgeVillarreal

26 күн бұрын

Which sections are you concerned about? I'm just analyzing and self-improving before discussing these with the others, indeed!

Something interesting my Latin teacher told me in high school was that during the later years of Rome, when Christianity was gaining popularity throughout what remained of the Empire, they started Jesus in ways which reflect the common Roman citizen, as they believed the people would be more accepting of him if he looked just like they did.

@SpahGaming

Жыл бұрын

Y'ever see the images of japanese, or chinese, ethiopian jesus, every culture projects to relate, it's human nature.

@clay1430

Жыл бұрын

@@SpahGaming of course, I'm not trying to say otherwise.

@techoperatives2232

Жыл бұрын

His image is in the Bible. He was black.

@bonbonvegabon

Жыл бұрын

@@techoperatives2232 lol Jesus was Jewish

@vmusket5464

Жыл бұрын

@@techoperatives2232 We waz godz n shieet

I'm not really surprised that Jesus and other religious figures change in apearance depending in which region of the world they are depicted. People always tried to make Religious figures look like someone from the same region, so they are more relateable to resident people.

@adrianlasin574

Жыл бұрын

jesus wore beared as it is requiired in jewish culture.

@mariod1547

Жыл бұрын

The Ethiops say that their gods are flat-nosed and black, While the Thracians say that theirs have blue eyes and red hair. Yet if cattle or horses or lions had hands and could draw, And could sculpt like men, then the horses would draw their gods Like horses, and cattle like cattle; and each they would shape Bodies of gods in the likeness, each kind, of their own. Xenophanes

@mth469

Жыл бұрын

​@@adrianlasin574 But if you look to Hollywood for a depiction of Jesus, he looks like his beard is all nicely trimmed and manicured as if he just stepped out of a salon.

@jasonbell6234

Жыл бұрын

Early depictions of Buddha way more impressive.

@hannahcanela9570

Жыл бұрын

Yes. What REALLY bothers me is that so many people think Jesus was white and are against portraying Jesus as anything other than white, specifically when he's being worshipped by non white people. A Black church sould have a Black Jesus, an Indigenous church an Indigenous Jesus, etc.

Makes me think about how the different Gospels highlight different aspects of the life of Jesus and His teachings, depending on which audience it was being directed to. It also makes me think about the different art and versions of the flood story that vary all around the world. All seemingly about the same event, but with variations upon the details, and differ depending on the culture.

Great collection of fascinating information displayed and illustrated in an engaging way - well done. Ps Good luck in your treatment

So Jesus looked like a Jewish rabbi. Never could have guessed.

@modmaker7617

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jew so just look at a modern native Israeli/Palestinian male and you get a rough idea of how he probably looked like. Jewish Rabbi makes sense.

@marktrain9498

Жыл бұрын

@@modmaker7617 It was sarcasm. Everyone knows Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

@bootbredda2724

Жыл бұрын

@@modmaker7617 Looking at the average modern American male wouldn't give you an idea of what the average male in America looked like 2000 years ago

@137Trimethylpurine26dione

Жыл бұрын

@@bootbredda2724 well that's because the average American 2000 years ago was a completely different race then what you consider an American now ? Invasion , murder and all

@bootbredda2724

Жыл бұрын

@@137Trimethylpurine26dione So you haven't read the history of that happening over there in Israel?

I never knew there were images of Jesus that far back in history. The mastery of anatomy drawing is impressive

@stonepaintertim

6 ай бұрын

@@eliohayek8955 making imagery or looking at artworks is simply a cultural discourse and not necessarily worship or bowing down about idolatry . The ten commandments does not state we are forbidden to communicate artistically about holy subjects, but says to not worship images

@ViciadoSocialempires

6 ай бұрын

People back then had way more skill and knowledge than we usually think

@Ofallthings089

6 ай бұрын

Idk. I’ve never seen anyone with the head of a donkey. Couldn’t have known that much.

@THEOMNIVERSEPERSPECTIVE

6 ай бұрын

@@eliohayek8955❤️‍🔥, but they won’t see it. the ignorance of the image is what prevents them from meeting Jesus and the wool hair .

@shay5839

6 ай бұрын

@@THEOMNIVERSEPERSPECTIVE🙄

Excellent! What a nice work! God bless you ✨🙏

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

No proof of Moses of Exodus, but you don't care about facts. What up?

Thank you for sharing this info. I have heard that Pontius Pilates wrote a letter, I don't know exactly to whom, but in that letter he gave a description of Jesus, the color of his hair, his skin and eyes and other details of the person of Jesus.

Every artistic rendering of Jesus that we have come across here is most often from the artist's imagination, that mainly has it's origins and background of his or her's particular region, beliefs and culture.

@vir9002

Жыл бұрын

I honestly think it is intentional so that "every tribe" can more closely relate to Jesus. Jesus is much bigger than what ethic group he was born into.

@Foreskinflavourednuts

Жыл бұрын

@@vir9002 I very much agree with you

@KRiZZxTV

Жыл бұрын

@@vir9002 It is intentional as to cover up the genetic ancestry of Jesus. The most important detail is given at the beginning of this video: The true earliest images of Jesus were destroyed by the Roman Empire. As you can see at the end of the countdown, the "afro" is slowly and deliberately converted into a halo.

@wannabecarguy

Жыл бұрын

....so Jesus did exist...

@wingedinfinity6715

Жыл бұрын

There is one that was supposedly drawn based on the impressions from the shroud they supposedly found from the tomb Jesus was buried in. I think it is the image this video showed briefly towards the beginning....called the "anthropological reconstruction". It shows Jesus' face as wide, his nose wide, and curly hair. I have a feeling it comes close except I do believe Jesus skin may have been a little darker.....just a hunch.

I think one thing to remember is that Jesus is often portrayed in the likeness of the artist. So, you can have Jesus with blue eyes and golden hair, Black Jesus, Asian Jesus, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see Jesus depicted as Roman.

@deadboltzz5199

Жыл бұрын

Your either catholic or never read the Bible how sad

@Scavenger108

7 ай бұрын

The "black Jesus" reminds of that family guy episode, lol.

@threestars2164

6 ай бұрын

Perhaps that is all he was. Just a picture made up by some bored artist. He never existed.

@dylanroemmele906

6 ай бұрын

@@threestars2164 yeah because that's just how it works. Muhammed wasn't real either, the arabs just randomly decided "Hey lets make this cool religion and conquer shit lol" and they of course all agreed to this because people tend to be super agreeable.

@peekaboots01

6 ай бұрын

I'm not Arab but have always imagined that he looked like a tan Arab with dark curly hair and his mother like a nomadic Palestinian looking girl.

You always present the most fascinating and informative videos. I enjoyed this immensely, thank you.

Thanks so much for this channel. I thoroughly enjoy the Christian content but will also check out the rest.

In the first image you showed, the left side of Christ's face symbolizes love, while the right side represents justice.

@kimfleury

4 ай бұрын

Yes. Mercy and Justice.

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

200,000 raped altar boys found that HE is deaf too..................................

@shamansking6407

12 күн бұрын

That's not true. The left side represents his human nature while the right side represents his divine nature.

@martinkent333

12 күн бұрын

@@shamansking6407 Zero proof of Exodus and Moses, yet Jesus fulfilled the Laws of Moses. What's up with that, Dude?

@littlekeelie

9 күн бұрын

@@martinkent333go look at the place where Jehovah came down as a pillar of fire, moses body was taken. everyone knows this. 🚶🏻‍♀️

I wish we had cameras and pictures (or even video) from that time period. Or actually any time period in ancient history. It would be so interesting to see what people actually looked like. And how they actually lived.

@mattb4461

Жыл бұрын

The Vatican has a machine that can see

@chesterdonnelly1212

Жыл бұрын

Archeologists can piece this together but obviously not with Jesus because there are no remains.

@nnanananana

Жыл бұрын

You need a skull and you get a face via the Superimposition method. On a computer you can even let it move. That is the closest we can get nowadays. Time travel is an other thing, only works forwards and will never change. ;)

@donaldjohnlong5330

Жыл бұрын

The Shroud of Turin is a 2,000 year old photograph of the entire crucified body of Jesus Christ.

@nickilema1074

Жыл бұрын

@@chesterdonnelly1212 because he’s still alive 😄

What's amazing are the stories being depicted, the fact that almost 300 years after Jesus's birth someone heard the story in perfect detail and drew a picture of it and the story of the woman touching his garment, its also amazing that those very stories have further survived another 1800 years and are still found word for word in our bibles. Nothing was "lost in translation", like they always try to say.

OUTSTANDING and informative video man! I love history!

Some dude 2000 years ago: I kinda feel bad for making fun of Alex now that he saw the graffiti. His wife: Dont worry, I'm sure people will forget all about it. Now: And so here is the oldest depiction of Jesus!

@stephenmartin5539

Жыл бұрын

A non believer who lept saying CE Instead of A.D. who saves the insult depiction of the founder of our faith for last to poke fun at our beliefs, calling christ a donkey! Wow..... hate to be this guy on the day judgement. Why have a non believer show depictions of christ using athiests terms for the calendar? Then show grafitti that makes fun of christ showing him as a donkey?do you really Want my commet GOD hater? Go take a bike.ride in traffic with joe biden! Dont worry, i ll save a place in those catacombs for the two of ya!

@OkOk-sx7tx

Жыл бұрын

It’s funny how “Jesus” gets whiter and whiter

@OkOk-sx7tx

Жыл бұрын

@@adriangudino3412 Read history dude.

@amypope9098

Жыл бұрын

@@OkOk-sx7tx Noah’s sons are believed to have started this (Gen 10 I believe) regardless the color, Acts 10:34 is a GREAT Scripture to live by instead of individual colored glasses🌹

@OkOk-sx7tx

Жыл бұрын

@@adriangudino3412 Spirituality, which Yeshua preached about used to be just a way of life before these man made religion came to be, and I can state whatever opinion I want, I speak truth and i don’t care if you don’t like it!

Every culture portrayed Jesus as representing their own people. That way the people can relate to the religion and accept it easier as being "their story". This is a common thing with any historical event, which depending on who writes about it, you get a differing perspective or even a different story altogether. This is basic human psychology and is found around the world by all the examples of the different "Jesus" paintings.

@blackinpublic4193

Жыл бұрын

But for 15th century not many outside Europe followed Jesus. So he continued to become plain white guy.

@ewalk7681

Жыл бұрын

@@blackinpublic4193 true, there was Ethiopia though!

@owenshebbeare2999

Жыл бұрын

True, studied depictions of religious figures for years, all over the world, and there is a traditional of depicting such people according to local appearance. It is not unusual, nor racist, as some suggest.

@owenshebbeare2999

Жыл бұрын

@@blackinpublic4193 Jesus is depicted in many ways, and the tendency to show him as a white man comes from the origin countries of missionaries, be they Catholic or other Western source. Slotracer is correct. If you want to guess at his real appearance, just look at Levantine men today, and he was never noted as looking remarkable, so wouldn't have been Romanesque pale, or Asian or sub-saharan African or Indian, even though many depictions show him as these ethnotypes, and others too.

@fredphilippi8388

Жыл бұрын

I concur with SlotRacer Guy's take on representations of Jesus that reflect enculturation. The reason for that is Jesus did not have a national mission. His theological mission was amenable to any local culture. Curiously, the apparitions of Mary so common among Catholics for the last couple of hundred years also reflect local enculturation: when appearing in France, Mary is white, French features, blond and blue eyed; when appearing in Mexico, she is brown, Native American features, dark hair and brown-eyed, etc.

This was outstanding. Thank you!

The Graffiti at the end blew me away. Jesus is Lord ✝️

Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed. Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed. John 20:29

@torrancebanks7612

Жыл бұрын

And Hosea 4:6 Says People perish for the lack of knowledge........And that's exactly whats being displayed here...But let me help you ..KJV 1619..REV 1:4......The real image of Yahusha (Jesus)...This is the meaning of the truth setting you free....

@alfredallen3350

Жыл бұрын

@@torrancebanks7612 It's a growing trend that people prefer to dwell in lies rather than accepting the truth which is presented in the Bible.

@lily.orchid

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@odoylerules4503

Жыл бұрын

@@alfredallen3350 this is the arrogance that so many people are tired of. The Bible is but one piece of the puzzle, written and manipulated by man over thousands of years.

@wangmary888

Жыл бұрын

For some stubborn and intelligent persons who He loves and selects, He will narrow their ways till they have to believe in Him. Otherwise, they have no other way out.

A silly question about the second picture discussed- how do we know that’s a picture of Jesus and not of an apostle, or some other random person?

@jean-lucwalker3690

Жыл бұрын

This is just a guess, but it may be the position in the church: if it's on the front wall, it's centre stage; a position usually reserved for Jesus to this day.

@msherif428

Жыл бұрын

It seems like a bit of a stretch to see a face there to begin with.

@d.c.8828

Жыл бұрын

"Yeshua wuz here"

@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa

Жыл бұрын

@@d.c.8828 Josh and the boys drawing more graffiti smh my head...

@TheWeirdTalesPodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-lucwalker3690 Thank you for the response. That makes sense.

The earliest images of Jesus the Christ were created by the faithful. They were represented in the style of their era, similar to what modern artists do. However, once that His burial linen, which contains His blood stains and full body image, was exhibited, people learned how Jesus looked. They then shared this image. The Christ Pantocrator image from Saint Catherine's Monastery was analyzed with the polarized image overlay technique to study the congruence between the icon image and Christ's actual burial linen. Results prove they have over 150 points that match! So the Pantocrator icon at the monastery shows the difference in Christ's eyes and face because it is showing the injured eye and cuts and swelling on that side of His face, based on His burial linen, whose facts are still being examined at The Turin Shroud Center of Colorado.

I love seeing these. However, we must not get away from the reality of Jesus, His beautiful message of good news! 🙏

Differences in beards and hairs between Byzantine and Roman depictions should tell us that the depictions were made according to different cultural styles of both empires' art. Roman elites were beardless, short haired but Byzantine elites were the opposite, long beards. They should have drawn him as an elite, so actually depictions don't give us necessary information about how he looked like in real.

@scottlee9373

Жыл бұрын

Without a photo, or portrait, or even a description by one who had seen him, any picture of him, a hundred years after his death, is a personal one.

@TV-oj8uh

Жыл бұрын

It was the same empire but the representations where a few hundred years apart and the beard actually comes from western mythology because Jesus needed to replace Jupiter.

@mehmetalierfidan6433

Жыл бұрын

@@TV-oj8uh yes and also the beard was signification of strength in the east. Latin and Greek empires were socially distinguished at this. You can't see beardless Byzantine emperor and you can't see any facial hair of Latin emperors, in old depictions.

@TV-oj8uh

Жыл бұрын

​@@mehmetalierfidan6433 But you can... Nero,Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Lucius Verus, Marcus Aurelius, Pertinax, Didius Julianus, Seprimus Severus, Caracalla, Macrinus, Gordian I and II, Pupienus, Balbinus, Philip the arab, Treboniasus Gallus, Volusianus, Aemilian, Gallienus, Claudius Ghoticus, Quintillus, Aurelian, Tacitus, Florianus, Probus, Carus, Carinus and Numerian. So dont tell me the western emperors didnt have beards.

@mehmetalierfidan6433

Жыл бұрын

@@TV-oj8uh sorry, my mistake, my knowledge is limited, and I wasn't pointing you while saying you, just for example. Actually I wasn't disagreeing with your first comment, i meant to emphasize it. Jesus was depicted with beard in the east. It gives clues to make a meaning of cultural roots and also mythology as u said.

The whole "duality" depicted in the first image is very common in early Byzantine iconography. This icon is not the only example of this.

@recoveringsoul755

Жыл бұрын

People's faces are generally not symmetrical anyway, models get closer to symmetry. I did an art project where we took a full size face only page from a magazine, and cut right down the center. Paste it on white paper and draw the other half of the face. When you do that you're mirroring what you see, so the result usually doesn't look like the person. I did it twice for the other half of the face, so each face I ended up with were different from each other and neither looked like the original

@lessonslearned6760

Жыл бұрын

@@recoveringsoul755 I was going to say the same thing. You can actually do that with any face .

@alpash2

Жыл бұрын

I wish you give us more examples

@alexvonholten1311

Жыл бұрын

@@alpash2 there is one I can think of, it's the Christ Pantocrator mosaic at Hagia Sophia. There it is much less prevalent but still noticeable.

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491

Жыл бұрын

yeah weird exercise ... master painting.

Thanks for sharing your art research

The image at 2:50 seems clearly to have been relied upon by the Shroud. The hair, eyes, the broken nose and the "v" between the nose are all consistent with the Shroud. So too is the flowing hair on His left side. I'm almost convinced that the Shrould had been seen by this artist.

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

No critical thinking skills, eh?

@daffidavit

26 күн бұрын

Why would you admit such a thing about yourself before all of this fine people?@@martinkent333

the first picture shown ( St. Catherine's monastery ) actually gave me goosebumps, both from the realization of the mirrored image and from how well it was drawn

@georgepapsukkal4392

Жыл бұрын

The most famous Voronet monastery in Romania actually have the real depiction of Jesus Christ, his Angels, King David and the BLACK hand of The Most High God. It also shows a certain race of people who have been ruling and destroying the planet earth with their world wars going into slavery with chains on judgement day. Isiah 14:2

@willierobinson3438

Жыл бұрын

[Revelation1:13-15] According to the Bible..

@zenflow4life

Жыл бұрын

Gave me the the creeps. Something is not quite right with it. Especially the eye on the right. Also the color scheme was altered from the original. The hands are not in the same color group that would have matched the face/neck. Along with the extreme darkness used for the robe, I think the head/neck is a paint over. (Not at all uncommon in early times when supplies were limited). I truly would love to see new technology used on it to see if there were previous layers.

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Lklk Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

@davidh9844

Жыл бұрын

I have actually been to St Catherine's. Twice in fact, although I've only been in the library once, and that was back in 1969. We were told they have an unimaginable collection of ancient works, all off limits to all but a select group of the monks themselves. Your two illustrations are spectacular, and the dual portrait of Jesus obviously precedes DaVinci's Mona Lisa by a thousand years!

God bless you for making this

i think this was a wonderful and clear felt presentation.

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

Facts are of no interest those with a book with talking animals, Dude. Any education?

Thank you, sincerely, for your time, thought, and informed goodwill shared in this curation. It suggests so many levels of (re)consideration without being dogmatic or pushing a partisan narrative. Bless you and yours, Sir.

Nicely done. You put a LOT of time and energy and devotion into this presentation. Thank you!!!

@thegrapeescape87

7 ай бұрын

There is actually a lot of missing information and some faulty facts.

Excellent video, I have learned a lot. Thank you very much.

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

Facts are of no interest? Bottomfeeders are so cool? Any education?

I read a story from an ancient writing in Jordan that says a visiting dignitary had someone with him that drew a picture of Jesus. It would be interesting if that turned up!

@martinkent333

26 күн бұрын

How gullible of you. Any education, Dude?

I think a valid interpretation of the “wand” is that it was meant to be a staff, like Moses. Jesus is often compared to Moses and it would not be surprising for art to depict him with a staff, like Moses is depicted to have used to perform miracles by God’s power

@TheRealFeechLaManna

Жыл бұрын

I dunno, these early depictions seem more urban than products of 'wandering nomadic folk' or even rural people. I think it is reasonable to assume a staff would mean little to the urban Greek or Roman Christian of the 3rd Century, whereas a magic wand might have been just the thing. I guess both theories seem plausible to me.

@monkeytennis8861

Жыл бұрын

You think wrong

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Qzqz Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

@davidh9844

Жыл бұрын

I would agree completely.

@focusfrost9856

Жыл бұрын

Good point, also because Jesus and his disciples walked from village to village and even long distances like from Samaria to Jerusalem, which was how all but the very rich traveled. Most such travelers used walking sticks, and many rural people were shepherds who carried staffs. The majority of the population was rural not urban. So everyone could relate to a walking stick.

Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

@Gutslinger

Ай бұрын

Written about 700 years before Jesus came in the flesh. Oldest copy being found in the Dead Sea Scrolls dated to be around 150-200 years before Jesus' birth.

@roddyg3692

Ай бұрын

​@Gutslinger Written by a prophet who got the inspiration from God. Only people of faith understand this, and only people of faith will see Him again with nail piercings on His hands and a spear wound on His side. Remember what doubting Thomas said once he Him.

@Gutslinger

Ай бұрын

@@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.

@Gutslinger

Ай бұрын

@@SunshineRoses333 I can't recall that anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a w*rm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.

@Gutslinger

Ай бұрын

@@SunshineRoses333 I don't know if anyone told Him to heal Himself, but I could be wrong. But there is this: "Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, 'He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him. He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, ‘I am the Son of God.’ ” - Matthew 27:41-43 (While Jesus was on the cross) Which you can connect to verses in Psalms 22, which says: "But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people. All those who see Me ridicule Me; They shoo out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 'He trusted in the Lord, let Him rescue Him; Let Him deliver Him, since He delights in Him!'" - Psalms 22:6-8 Read the whole chapter of Psalms 22. It describes in great detail what happens to Jesus. Jesus references that chapter while on the cross.. Psalms was supposedly written 900-1000 BC.

Thank you sir.

Excellent narration...good job.

4:09 On the left: Young Jesus walking earth and doing his wonders with words and hands; right: Matured Jesus, holding the New Testament in his hands. Amazing artwork.

@Lagolop

Жыл бұрын

Jesus would never have carried a 'new testament" because it was only written after he was murdered by the Romans. Jesus was a religious Jew and died as such. He had no knowledge of Christianity.

@BraedenMartin

Жыл бұрын

@@Lagolop He started Christianity the moment He said “follow me”! Christianity is just following Christ and believing in His truth

@Lagolop

Жыл бұрын

@@BraedenMartin Jesus would roll over in his grave if he heard you say that. Jesus was a Jew, a religious Jew. He was born a Jew to JEWISH parents, was circumcised as all Jewish baby boys are. He died as a Jew, murdered by Romans who nailed him to a cross. They did that to many other Jews of his time as well. Jesus did not start Christianity, what he did was to create yet another sect of Judaism. Just as there are several sects of Judaism today.

@BraedenMartin

Жыл бұрын

@@Lagolop Jesus wouldn’t be rolling over in His grave because He is not in His grave. However, I think where you and I disagree is how we define Christianity. I don’t define it as a religion. I define it as a relationship. Yes, Jesus was Jewish. The Bible is very clear of that. However, I believe the New Testament is fulfillment of many of the Old Testament’s prophecy’s. I believe that Jesus is the way and the truth. Jesus was Jewish, and certainly read the Jewish Bible (the Old Testament). I’m not disagreeing with you. But He did infact accomplish the mission God send Him here to do. And thus, Christianity. A relationship.

@TalonAshlar

5 ай бұрын

More likely it represents Jesus before and after the so called resurrection.

Reminds me of when i was a little girl and i tried to explain that we don't know what any biblical person looked like, the little girls next door thought i was crazy. After all our church was filled with statues.

@CPT543

Жыл бұрын

I agree Susan. Appearance wasn't the main item, otherwise we would have more references to appearance in the scriptures

@lookatmepleasesir

Жыл бұрын

king david and esau's appearance are described

@zainm5919

Жыл бұрын

that's probably why islam and judaism were so against depictions

@MafuHardy

Жыл бұрын

@@CPT543 the Bible should have taken the time to warn against iconography :P

@CPT543

Жыл бұрын

@@MafuHardy I guess but there aren't many physical descriptions. Only if necessary to tell the story. For example, Esau was a hairy and rough looking man. That description was placed in the scriptures to make a distinction between he and his brother.

As a child in Germany, I was told by my parents that every artist depicts Jesus as a man of noble birth would be depicted in his country - as a Chinese, Bantu, Eskimo or, as we in Germany, as an German. Nobody knows what Jesus really looked like. Nor is it necessary, because only with the heart can you see your Saviour and Redeemer Jesus Christ.

Exposure to depictions from around the world shows us that most people recreate biblical figures in their own image, reflecting their own race and culture. "Historical accuracy" is a pretty new concept in such depictions, and is much more possible now than it was even a century ago - plus, we keep gaining more knowledge to amplify and correct such accuracy. In re: why a Middle-Eastern Jew would have been depicted as a short-haired, beardless Roman: one source points out that free Romans of the time made a cultural virtue of short hair and shaving 1) as part of their military tradition (which originally involved all able-bodied citizens), 2) to show they could afford all that constant barbering, and 3) to differentiate the freed or free-born at sight from bearded slaves and barbarians. Conversely, Jews of Judea despised the Roman conquerors; no Jew wanted to be mistaken for a Roman (or a eunuch). Jesus, as a presumably-normal man and Jew into his thirties, would have had a beard. When the Christian movement spread from Judea through Syria and Turkey and points West as far as Rome, the Christians found cultural resistance not only to worship of one who had been crucified, but also to someone who didn't "look like us" to free Romans. According to this source (which I would cite if I could; this being a memory from decades ago), one result of this cultural clash was the reworking of the image of Jesus to be more acceptable in its new milieu.

Very well done. I especially like the little sidebar that made it easy to track the paintings through time. Thanks for your work.

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Kmkm Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

Nice information, but Jesus Christ had a beard and long hair, and evidence number one is the Holy Shroud. Jesus Christ had a face imprinted on him when the Lord rose from the dead, because the light of the resurrection was strong. Also, in Roman laws, it was said that the hair of his beard was plucked before the crucifixion, meaning that he had a beard. In our church in Egypt, we inherited his living image with him

04:53 Short curly hair allows for curlier curls. Over the years, curly hair that is long and unwashed will be heavier weighing down the curls, to the point of wavy to straight rather than ones original natural curls. The hair, then begins growing in volume, due to sweat/grease and sand. Also the sun bleaches hair over the years.

If people once likened the depiction of Jesus carrying a lamb around his neck to those of Hermes/Mercury (12:54), then the image likely served a double purpose: Jesus as shepherd and Jesus as messenger.

@oldbatwit5102

5 ай бұрын

Jesus as cook.

@garyslogan

5 ай бұрын

@@oldbatwit5102 haha good one

You missed the oldest one that the Catholic Church has in the Vatican

God is so good

When I was a little girl there was a local church that kept a large copy of the Sallman picture just inside it's front doors. It was always lit up so if you drove by at night you could see it. I liked looking at it then. My parents also told me a story that I don't remember, perhaps I was four, and my sister three, when we were in the picnic area of a national park. They said a young man wearing a long white shirt, with beard and long hair, came walking through. I'm told we got excited and said it was Jesus, while they shushed us. That would make a good story, kids recognizing him but not the adults.

@mlblja

Жыл бұрын

That's called indoctrination all churches do it and they used to kill people that didn't agree with them!

@adamajagne3487

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha this picture is fake Jesus was black

@deniseeulert2503

Жыл бұрын

@@adamajagne3487 He was not black, or at least not what we Americans would call black/African American. If you wanted to do a picture of him I'd use as a model any one of the Semitic, olive complected folks that live in the Mid East now.

@JP2GiannaT

Жыл бұрын

I used to be afraid of/shy of men with beards because I thought they all looked like Jesus, lol.

@JP2GiannaT

Жыл бұрын

@Adama Jagne, if you're at all interested in such things, there was what is called a Eucharistic miracle in Mexico in the early 2000s (to make a long teaching short, Catholics believe that the bread and wine at their mass (services) really turns into the body and blood of Jesus. Occasionally, this change becomes visible and stuff starts bleeding). They had a scientist test the blood without telling him where it came from, and it came back as human, AB positive...and with no discernable ethnicity. That last bit is completely unprecedented. Even when someone is "mixed", scientists are able to tell the different places or origin in the DNA. Not this time. So...He "belongs" to all of us.

It's important to note that the early, Eastern Roman depictions show him as a Judean man, wearing a Tallith over his tunic. The Tallith was a square robe with fringes or tasskes, that all Judeans wore and had two dark stripes on the men's Tallith and a notched right angle design on the corners of the woman's Tallith. Actual fragments of 2nd Temple era Talliths have been found in archeological digs in Israel. Today, the large Tallith is worn mainly on Shabbat during prayers by men. It must have at least two fringes, as required in the Torah. It stopped being the traditional over robe of Judeans as they adopted the garments of the nations that they lived among, after the expulsion by Rome from Judea

@benjalucian1515

Жыл бұрын

He did mention this.

@delmariecrandall9229

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Though Christian, many of us do not know much abour traditional Jewish attire.

@knowhere60

4 ай бұрын

​@delmariecrandall9229 Until the Middle Ages, all Judeans wore a Talit as their over garment. Then it was decided by the leading Rabbi's, through correspondence, that wearing the local garb was acceptable. So most men will wear a large Talit in Synagogue or during communal prayer, and many observant Jews wear a "little Talit" under their shirts, with the four knotted fringes showing. Women were allowed to not wear a Talit anymore.

Islam began in 610 AD, with Muhammad's first vision, in the cave of Mt. Hira. If this painting is from 550 AD, it is pre-Islamic and not made by Muslims.

@Lily45721

25 күн бұрын

Ookkkkkk

We might just have the oldest roast depiction ever 😂

I just can not appreciate how good the quality of this channel is. I subscribed years ago and I feel like I owe you money for watching your fire content for free all the time.

@BairyHalls757

Жыл бұрын

For real....*tongue clicks*

@mannm950

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@BlackPantherUWM

Жыл бұрын

Buy some of his posters! They look fantastic on the wall

@michellemarieperez6574

Жыл бұрын

Send a donation.

@stephensnowball8006

Жыл бұрын

Right? No clips - no segwey into 30 seconds of the video being him asking us to check out some site and use the promo. Very clean vids; very appreciated.

That was such a fascinating video :-) Thanks for posting it. It is worth watching several times over.

Excellent video. Thank you.

Every culture sees Jesus as a reflection of themselves. I think Jesus would respect this

@ZiyadKk-wu2pj

2 ай бұрын

Y only blond Jesus and not negro or korean jesus😂😂

The image at 4:00. On the left he is at peace and his hands are embracing his heart space. On the right he is holding religious books, these heavy books full of wisdom. The lesson seems to be to feel it in your heart rather than hold on to it literally.

@fucgoogle4607

Жыл бұрын

No.😆😆I mean why does every religious person say they believe in the scriptures but they never take the scriptures literal or at face value? They always have to create their own imaginary idea of what they think the scriptures MIGHT mean.

@mileshale8034

Жыл бұрын

@@fucgoogle4607 I can think of two main reasons why. One that it's understood that the scriptures we have are an incomplete account that have been passed through many years, hands, and many translations (UsefulCharts actually has a few good videos on this). And due to the age of these texts, some parts will be more or less relevant to modern sensibilities. Religious texts are ancient, and follow many traditions we have discontinued: one of which is the value placed on metaphor, symbolism, and parables to get a point across, rather than accurately relaying "objective" facts, so the entire Bible is difficult to discern historical fact from metaphor. So different interpretations are inevitable but that doesnt undermine the value of the texts, you just need to understand the context. Two that religion is inherently a spiritual experience - a relationship with the unknown; the point is not to follow scripture as a one-to-one instruction manual but to use it to develop your relationship with whatever deity you follow. Faith and spirituality comes first, scripture is used to aid spirituality. Several passages in the Bible instruct its readers to do this as well; it places an emphasis on pondering scripture for yourself. Proverbs 15:14, 2 Timothy 3:16, for example. Anyway, very fascinating video. (Edited for clarity)

@thejackel1844

Жыл бұрын

@@mileshale8034 Excellent dissertation my friend !...

@johnrush4041

Жыл бұрын

It represents God's Mercy and Wrath

@tahjairogers1484

Жыл бұрын

@@mileshale8034 very well said

the alexamenos graffiti also shows the cross as being a capital T shape which is probably more accurate than the lower case t shape. it's a lot simpler to cut into one timber and nail it to the top of a post than it is to make matching cutouts.

@markbcrich

Жыл бұрын

I had heard about that in the past. But, then they would need a place to fasten the sign that said, "king of the Jews," which was said to be above his head. Unless the sign had its own pole attached to the T shaped cross.

@eoghankelly4377

Жыл бұрын

I'd never thought of this before, but it makes a lot of sense.

@sawahtb

Жыл бұрын

@@markbcrich I imagine when someone is crucified their heads would actually end up being belong the intersection of the "T" so there would be a space for a sign.

@SAOS451316

Жыл бұрын

@@sawahtb i think this is most likely. it's a terrible way to die. as the victim becomes exhausted from holding themselves up the position causes restricted breathing. hypoxia or dehydration kills them over the course of a few days and the victim ends up slumped. there's also the idea that the nails went through the palms but this is not likely because the body weight would rip the hands free between the fingers which counteracts the whole dying goal (modern people have been crucified for various reasons and it seems to be a problem with it). the nails would go through the wrists which would hold better. the alexamenos art neither suggests this nor suggests against it though.

@markbcrich

Жыл бұрын

@@sawahtb Yes. That is possible. But, early Christian fathers tend to describe it at a (t) shape. E.g.: Irenaeus "the very form of the cross, too, has five extremities, two in length, two in breadth, and one in the middle, on which [last] the person rests who is fixed by the nails". Justin Martyr: "That [passover] lamb which was commanded to be wholly roasted was a symbol of the suffering of the cross which Christ would undergo. For the lamb, which is roasted, is roasted and dressed up in the form of the cross. For one spit is transfixed right through from the lower parts up to the head, and one across the back, to which are attached the legs of the lamb." "No one could say or prove that the horns of a unicorn represent any other fact or figure than the type which portrays the cross. For the one beam is placed upright, from which the highest extremity is raised up into a horn, when the other beam is fitted on to it, and the ends appear on both sides as horns joined on to the one horn. And the part which is fixed in the centre, on which are suspended those who are crucified, also stands out like a horn; and it also looks like a horn conjoined and fixed with the other horns". Tertullian: "the very structure of our body suggests the essential and primal outline of a cross. The head ascends to the peak, the spine stands upright, the shoulders traverse the spine. If you position a man with his arms outstretched, you shall have created the image of a cross. Dionysius of Halicarnassus : " The men ordered to lead the slave to his punishment, having stretched out both his arms and fastened them to a piece of wood which extended across his breast and shoulders as far as his wrists, followed him, tearing his naked body with whips. " Seneca the Younger: "“I see crosses there, not just of one kind but made in many different ways: some have their victims with head down to the ground; some impale their private parts; others stretch out their arms on the gibbet”

I have never seen these images before, good work!

Pontius Pilate described Jesus to Caesar as a "a man with golden hair and beard. wavy hair, length covering the ears down to his shoulders. not of a tawny complexion, and with eyes that speaks to the soul.

Thank you Matt!! That was awesome. I saw the actual original of the last one you talked about, the donkey one, in a museum on the Capitoline Hill Rome. This was a great episode.

@tomlillas1416

Жыл бұрын

Of course in Rome. They hate Jesus and loves to mock him in any way they can.

@withlessAsbestos

5 ай бұрын

I like how the face he Gave Alex Amenos resembles a Chad Face. Looks like his troll backfired 2000 years later.

@orchidorio

5 ай бұрын

BRAVO!!!

@metronome8471

5 ай бұрын

It's his Egyptian form 😆

I LOVED that last bonus one! So much personallity is shown and it's such a refreshing thing to see such a unskilled artist (Probably wasn't even an artists to begin with) poking fun at someone! Reminds me of a drawing you'd see on some parent's refrigerator from their child. Amazing video and I hope you will do more of these things. Maybe show more murals and icons and other religious top 10s?

@ShaunCheah

Жыл бұрын

Alexamenos fidelis.

@spinach4892

Жыл бұрын

Many often forget that the people of history were just like us, simply in different environments. Like I’m 100% sure during the Roman era people did a variation of memes, like giving Caligula a horsehead and sharing it with my homie Darius on a peice of bark

@johnnydeleon8210

Жыл бұрын

That was such an interesting piece, graffiti and ball busting has always been a human trait

@drigondii

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of restroom stall graffiti

@justa.american8303

Жыл бұрын

Who'd guess that back then they had refrigerators to put their kid's drawings on. ;-) BwaHaHaHa!

Dear jehovah ,we the people with full faith and hope praying for your miracles over us the needy ones❤

A long time ago I asked Jesus what he really looked like and he told me the Sallmen's painting was the closet. Recently the gifted artist young gal Akiane has Jesus with a haircut. I feel we are not to know what he really looks like till the day you die and face him eye to eye. When that day happens, it hits you like a ton of bricks. Your blown away by his love, authority, a bright light, all knowing like him, everything is totally wonderful and you can not stop crying with joy. No feeling we ever had on earth that first time you see Jesus face to face. Never give up on Jesus, He is close by your side everyday, even when you can not see him. Continue to fill thy lamp (your body, not a cement building,) Fill your being with Holy Oil, so you can see at night. Live like the 5 wise virgins, ( Matthew 24) so you get to escape in the rapture boat that is coming soon, when Jesus returns to get the last of His bride, that is you. Luke 21:36 ( mega churches do not tell you this)

@druidriley3163

2 ай бұрын

Is that the only thing you thought to ask him?

I must say I found your presentation to be very informative. I enjoy learning new ( to me) things about the man who lived so long ago and influenced the world we live in today.

@littlebitofhope1489

Жыл бұрын

That would be Paul.

@Steve-yx1xj

Жыл бұрын

did he though ?

@user-in5ru2cd9l

11 ай бұрын

​​@@Steve-yx1xj Yes, he is. In fact Jesus only did 3 years of ministry and left the biggest legacy in the World. Not even the greatest leader can leave a big legacy like what Jesus did. Can you imagine tha! ONLY 3 YEARS.

What an epic video with such an in depth information and you have presented it so well. Thank you for sharing it.

The thing you did with the first painting, where you split the faces, you can do that with every face on the plant and the one side looks completely different from the other.

The wand seems to be a reference to Manumissio vindicta, a way to free an slave in ancient Rome. It was a simulated trial before a magistrate, where the owner touched the head of the slave with a tree wand and the slave immediatelly became a free person. I love this image of Jesus from the roman understanding that seems suggest that Jesus frees Lazzarus from the slavery of the death. Thinking as a roman, Death was a minor god too (Pluton/ Hades).

The more & more that I see pictures of “Jesus”, the more I am convinced He was drawn to look like everyone during that specific time..perhaps the artist saw a bit of themselves in their depiction of Him…I wouldn’t believe at all that’s a coincidence..🧐🧐🤔👍🏽👍🏽😇

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Ygyg Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

@donaldcoleman514

Жыл бұрын

Revelation 1/14/15 his head and hair were white like wool as white as snow and his eyes like a flame of fire and his feet like fine brass as burn in a furnace according to the bible christ had wooly hair red eyes and skin as burn in a furnace burn something in a furnace see what color it turn so he couldn't look like everyone at that time because everyone at that time or this time doesn't look alike

@donaldcoleman514

Жыл бұрын

@@jaycubb9663 if you believe in man made religion you do

@FortniteBlaster2

Жыл бұрын

@@jaycubb9663 Jesus came in THE IMAGE Of man

@FortniteBlaster2

Жыл бұрын

@@jaycubb9663 Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.

This was extremely interesting. It'd be awesome if you talked about early depictions of other biblical figures.

@cherriaydelotte8327

Жыл бұрын

Yes it would!!! ☺️🕊

@Juan-lf6qo

Жыл бұрын

Rfrf Jesus said:"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons.." -Matthew 7 How did that "man" know that more than 2 thousand years AFTER HE DIED; ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN, There are so "Many" christian religions today, doing exactly what he said. "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning" -Isaiah 46 CHURCH LA LUZ DEL MUNDO/THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

To me, it doesn’t matter what Jesus looked like because the beauty of Him is that He was humble and the image of the invisible God. How great and amazing is our God w

In the first icon of Christ Pantocrator, Jesus is depicted with one eye looking compassionately at the viewer to signify His mercy as God, and the other eye looking sternly at the viewer to signify His justice. The interpretation of this is perfectly embodied in the icon as God is both equally just and equally merciful.

With the pictures of Jesus, as you gave the "graffiti" at the end a mention, you probably should've said it's estimated to be from the 1st to 3rd centuries with most of the guesstimates being cast for the 2nd and 3rd.

@arealbigboss

Жыл бұрын

He also left out the response written to the insult

@Eugensson

Жыл бұрын

@@arealbigboss what was the response?

@arealbigboss

Жыл бұрын

@@Eugensson Something along the lines of "Alexamenos the Faithful", which would be sort of turning the insult around I think.

@ShaunCheah

Жыл бұрын

@@arealbigboss Alexamenos fidelis.

@TheEnabledDisabled

Жыл бұрын

@@arealbigboss I hope you aint lying

Thanks! That was most interesing. For any other viewers, I will add that I bought 3 of the family tree posters advertised by the proprietor of this channel (European royal families starting with Charlemagne, Greco-Roman gods, and Biblical figures). They are absolutely brilliant, I am so pleased I went to the trouble of having them shipped to Australia, and I could not recommend them highly enough. The one depicting Greek gods made reading Homer and Hesiod much easier. Aside from the information, the graphics, the layout, the use of color and position, are all superb.

@westzed23

Жыл бұрын

That is good to know. Thank you. I shall get a family tree poster for my next ancient mythology book. You should do a review for the marketing site.

What is the problem with some images having beards and others not? He may have removed it for parts of His life!

2:00 I have this Icon in my house. One of my favorite depictions of Jesus, it's beautiful.

@Lagolop

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it ironic how some so called Christians worship a Jew enough to have an image of him in their homes, yet they hate his people. Just sayin'. Thank God for the Jewish state of Israel. There will never be another holocaust set upon the Jewish people.

@lulumoon6942

Жыл бұрын

That's the one I grew up with, too.

@lilyawood

6 ай бұрын

I’ve both drawn and painted this one. It’s also a favorite of mine

Thank you for your efforts in putting this together. Very interesting. I love history.

@namvet_13e

Жыл бұрын

I find history much more interesting now that I can remember so much of it.

Fascinating. I'd like to know whether there are any written descriptions of Jesus that are even older than these visual depictions.