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@jaylovely7083

4 ай бұрын

Hey Matt It is said the Abraham is the Father of Nations. Nations like Israel, Edom , Midianites etc. Can you make a chart that explores such nations that are from Abraham in relation to history ofcourse.

@Firecat719

4 ай бұрын

Your comment of "you cannot say it's fiction" ... because there are some real characters, is way off base. I presume Disney classics, such as: Peter Pan, Pocahontas, Mulan, Princess and the Frog and several others I could name should not be considered fiction, because they all take place - fully or in part - in real places (ie: Peter Pan starts out in London) and have at least 1 character that was a real person in history ... even if never seen, but only mentioned. (ie: if a character mentions Queen Mary, they are referencing a real historical person). Therefore, if there is a person or a place found in history - in any work of fiction, the entire story cannot be considered fiction... Got it. I guess Oliver Twist, The Count of Monte Cristo and the Three Musketeers are not fiction either. My mind just flashed to an episode of Star Trek, where Kirk and Spock met Abraham Lincoln. It's good to know Star Trek is real. OMG... I almost forgot... SANTA CLAUS IS REAL! He's based on a real historical person, Nicholas of Bari. Also known as Nicholas of Myra. Venerated by the Catholic Church in the 4th century. According to the Santa stories, he never ages. So... given he was real - and therefore cannot be fiction - St. Nick is almost 1,800 years-old and still alive! This leads me to another question I haven't thought about since I was 7 y/o... How does Santa get to all those houses in one night? Please spare me the non-fiction nonsense. There are literally hundreds of thousands of written works of fiction which include real people and real places. It still does not make the story - or fairy tale - true.

@arkonwolves7192

3 ай бұрын

@@Firecat719 You fail to mention that the bible is technically a form of historical record taken by many people over time. Not far from the Encyclopedia or other recountings of history. If a scientist or historian references star trek does that make the historian’s report false? Furthermore just because you did not see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That would be a personal incredulity fallacy where in because YOU didn’t experience it, it is not true. By that logic all of history could be a fluke. Just because you never saw Abraham Lincoln doesn’t mean he didn’t exist.

@Firecat719

3 ай бұрын

@@arkonwolves7192 In the same light, as a child, I have read books about Santa Claus. As with the Bible, there were many good moral lessons and many historically accurate facts. As a child, I believed fiction and fairy takes were real. Santa was real and so was God. But I grew up and discovered the Bible and other books of fiction had many true events depicted inside their pages. As with the movie, "Forest Gump," the addition of real people and events does not make the fairy tale true. In fact, when it comes to Santa, there is more proof he exists then any fictional Bible character. As for Abe... there were people who lived at the time. We have things he wrote and things written bout him, from the time he lived. We have pictures and paintings of him, from the time he was alive. As for Jesus, we have ZERO EVIDENCE he ever existed. We have some writings that appeared almost 50 years AFTER the CruciFICTION. PLUS... we have 2nd and 3rd century Christian sects that were more divided then a Moron and a Catholic is today! Consider just the writings of Paul... Why is 1 & 2 Timothy in the Bible? Paul didnt write those... They showed up long after Paul would have died. Meanwhile, why is the "Acts of Paul," absent from the Bible? It was bound with the other 7 letters of Paul, in the same hand. But YOUR belief system is the right one? Prove to me Santa does not exist. Tell NORAD to stop tracking his annual flight. There's no, "Jesus watch" is there? every time some religious nutbag gives a date of the 2nd coming, the day comes and goes and nothing happens. This has been claimed - by various Christians - over 400 times! Not once has it ever been true. Turn to Gen 6:6 .. God regretted making mankind. How the hell can an ALL-KNWING god possibly have regrets? Does the Bible suggest he didn't see that whole flood thing coming? I guess not, because that inept sadistic moron also didn't seem to know his, "kill them all by global swimming pool," idea wouldn't work." This is just ONE of several hundreds of examples I could give. Next time you want to come after an Atheist, you better know your Bible well. Any Atheist will tell you, "The fastest way to become and Atheist is to actually read the Bible."

@arkonwolves7192

3 ай бұрын

@@Firecat719 Hmm no recordings of Jesus huh? How about Pilate’s address of his death according to Tacitus? How about the over 500 eye witnesses of the resurrection? As for your cruciFICTION it’s crucifixion anyway and I never explicitly said Santa doesn’t exist did I? I know what I know and don’t what I don’t simply because I view something one way doesn’t mean it’s objectively true. I believe what is written regarding history is true as any other document for all we know Abe could have never existed if we refused to believe the countless evidence on the contrary. As for the how can an ALL-KNWING God possibly have regrets. In the garden he made the humans in his likeness and thus gave them wills of their own allowing them to choose there own path in which they chose to reject God and go there own ways. I also never gave a date for his second coming so that was extremely out of pocket sir. But to answer that very common problem Jesus even said we would never know when it would be only to look to the sky and stay vigilant. As for Mormonism (what I imagine you meant by moron.) it is a ‘sect’ of ‘christianity’ that is very controversial and I personally don’t agree with it’s interpretations and Catholicism is a very tainted and corrupt form of ‘christianity’ I personally believe draws closer to the occult by the minute. I also don’t know why the Acts of Paul were not included in the bible as I don’t know why the countless other books in the scrolls were not. The Bible is not the full picture. Think of it like an instruction manual for a grill. It provides the necessary knowledge to put the thing together but often lacks the tools and some ‘pro-tips’ it also lacks the completed project. Much like history, Christianity is still being written the Bible doesn’t really have a happily ever after per-say I like to hear your complaints and your reasons for believing them true as it only gives me more insight. If we do not step out of our metaphorical caves some times we get too comfortable with the shadows on the wall. Next question please.

People who insist on believing biblical literalism are often shocked to learn how much the Bible gets wrong, historically. Meanwhile, people who reject biblical literalism are often shocked to find how much the Bible gets right, historically.

@UsefulCharts

9 ай бұрын

Well put.

@garethmcguinness377

9 ай бұрын

This is great comment lmao cuz it's so true hahaha

@dieglhix

9 ай бұрын

I'm not religious, but since I learned about Cyrus The Great and the human rights declaratrion cuneiform cylinder, I started to investigate more about biblical facts that have been proven.

@saia100

9 ай бұрын

modern ideas of 'history' are too tied up in reality to understand that ancient people's ideas of writing down history was more about allegory and writing stories about 'where you came from' to teach men how to live righteously and impart lessons, this is true of both religious text and 'academically' historical text, Plato most likely never belived Atlantis existed in actuality but used it as a lesson against hubris, just like how rabbis debate the meaning behind biblical stories and interpret them to derive their laws, as was intended.

@jacksonaaron103084

9 ай бұрын

​@@saia100well stated. I learned this years ago. Trying to disprove the bible and scholastically to make sure certain events are falsifiable

It’s important to note that although currently we don’t have archaeological proof the others existed, it does not necessarily mean that they did not exist

@cayoticcupcake

Ай бұрын

I agree. I may have interpreted this wrong (LORD forgive me if so), but GOD made mankind on the 6th day and they were to be fruitful and multiply. Then Adam was created and placed in the garden to the East. I thought (think) there were people here, but the foundation of the Kingdom of GOD started with Adam and Eve.

@paisleepunk

Ай бұрын

josiah is the best example of this, i think

@nikkoval8490

Ай бұрын

@@cayoticcupcakeHe made mankind on the 6th day then rested on the 7th. When did He make Adam? Genesis makes it seem like God planted the garden the day after the 7th and He breathed life to form Adam or was it done all on the 6th day?

@atimetokeep1136

Ай бұрын

@cayoticcupcake Adam was created on the 6th day. Genesis 1 gives us a break down of the days. Genesis 2 however goes into more detail. Plus the Bible tells us in Romans 5:12, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" Sin passed from Adam through his offspring. If there was another line of humans separate from Adam they would not have been affected by his sin. They would not have fallen. Eve fell because she also sinned. We also have DNA, both secular scientists and Christian scientists both agree that all humans share. We have one human race and not two or more. In Genesis 2:18 God said that Adam was alone. Then in Genesis 2:19 we see God creating every beast of the field? How can this be since God had already created them on day 6? It is because Genesis 2 is giving us more details about the six days of creation.

@cayoticcupcake

Ай бұрын

@@atimetokeep1136 After re-reading the passages, I totally understand what you are saying. I suppose the disconnect is when Cain was sent to the land of Nod, east of the garden, and bore Enoch; and built the city. It makes it sound like there are others there when Cain went to Nod.

I remember reading Herodotus describing the pyramids and how even in his time Egyptian priests knew little of their origins. And the books of Kings are a biblical eye opener for its importance as a historical document when compared with other sources from the time. Fascinating stuff.

@burnsmatkin9606

5 ай бұрын

Herodotus also described flying reptiles that could only have been some type of pterodactyl.

@matthewmckever2312

5 ай бұрын

@@burnsmatkin9606 And Amazon women who cut off their breast to easier shoot an arrow, Scythians with 1 large foot and faces in their chests. However unlike these farfetched descriptions he actually went to Eygpt and interviewed priests while he was there.

@stgibbs86

5 ай бұрын

@@matthewmckever2312 Yet we know some "dinosaurs" existed well into the iron age and antiquity.

@debrapaulino918

3 ай бұрын

I've often wondered about what is presumed to be myth regarding the thunderbirds in First Nations oral histories. Two very large effigies are in WI near Madison.​@@burnsmatkin9606

@debrapaulino918

3 ай бұрын

​@@stgibbs86And into 1500's I think. Don't remember date. A farmer came upon a small one and killed it with a hoe.

I just went through the Bible recently and noticed what you described as well. That the beginning books are very general narratives written then later in Samuel-kings-minor prophets there's so much detail it becomes difficult to keep up. I am a Christian and this knowledge doesn't diminish my faith, in fact it strengthens it. I appreciate the work you did compiling all this info!

@matnic_6623

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I am the same pretty much

@pfranks75

8 ай бұрын

That’s how I look at this information too!

@korin5615

8 ай бұрын

IMO, the reason for the early OT being less descriptive is because it was written by Moses and most of the thing isn't that necessary and it was just to record like generally (like genealogy). For me, seeing like that, strength my faith as yk if it was fake or smth, anything will be so descriptive as some random people created but in like Genesis, it looks just like documentary books imo

@jakoboka

8 ай бұрын

If some parts of the bible are written down later by someone who didn't recently lived after the events taking place, usually things aren't that detailed. If I'm an eye witness of a terrible accident I can give more information than when someone on the news just sums up the facts about the accident. Also the goal of writing down something can differ. If I want to sell an product I write it different than when I give an honest opinion / review of a product. If the product existed 100 years ago but I never used it, I can only write something that someone else (like my grand parents narrative or other sources) tell about the product.

@timon6759

7 ай бұрын

The reason why the five books of Moses seem to be missing info is because they are like the keynotes in a professor's lecture. The oral law is where everything is laid out.

As a history buff, i'd love a part 2 with the NT.

@talliejewls

9 ай бұрын

I second this request! ❤

@mr.awesome8864

9 ай бұрын

All in favor?

@muhammadHassan-kj1jy

9 ай бұрын

Yep

@PolycarpSalavarrieta

8 ай бұрын

It gets everything right in the NT

@matnic_6623

8 ай бұрын

@@PolycarpSalavarrietayeah that was something I was actually very surprised about! The gospel of Luke and Acts is pretty spot on historically

It's amazing how the verification of so many Iron age biblical characters is based on only one item. It shows that it is REALLY hard to get your name known outside of your timeline during this period.

@kentondickerson

9 ай бұрын

There is a good bit of luck involved. Most things like these artifacts don't last for thousands of years.

@NoGoodHandlesLeft

9 ай бұрын

Fun Fact: We only have one or two pieces of physical evidence for crucifixions actually having occurred. As someone below mentioned; if you weren't elite you weren't making it into the historical record. For this reason the lack of Bronze Age evidence doesn't really bother me as most of the people mentioned were not what we would think of as 'elite', weren't named specifically, or could very well have been erased in the chaos of the Bronze Age Collapse.

@mindymorgan8479

9 ай бұрын

I agree. But I also believe lots of ancient people were way more literate than we give them credit for. Especially those in cities. And surely if not literate in an alphabetical type of way, symbols ofc that we can't decipher may be just primitive names. I always imagine some cave art says “Jimmy and Sally were here“. ❤

@samuelhiatt9338

9 ай бұрын

Also displays the fact that likely a countless number of those unconfirmed Bronze Age stories are unconfirmed simply because the sources have been destroyed. People love to pretend that a lack of sources means that something didn't happen while ignorantly forgetting that the vast majority of history is plagued by a lack of sources and many many accounts of confirmed events could have been dismissed as fiction if for an unfortunate turn of fate ending in the destruction of one singular source.

@FighteroftheNightman

9 ай бұрын

Theyre not characters.

The Bronze Age charcters versus Iron Age characters blew my mind . What a good book list to really start to understand the Bible in such a scholarly way .

This was actually super interesting, much of the archeology referenced I had no idea about. I’d definitely want to see a New Testament version too

@MrYi-qo7xt

9 ай бұрын

Same here, but include the deuterocanonical (apocryphal) books please!

@kyle4338

9 ай бұрын

Matt is a Jew, I doubt you'll get a new testament version

@hubmibcarlson961

9 ай бұрын

@@kyle4338 I'm sure I've watched a video in which he makes references about himself not being particularly religious

@SuterBowling

9 ай бұрын

@@kyle4338 He's done several charts regarding the New Testament. It may take a while, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did.

@jeffmacdonald9863

9 ай бұрын

A NT version of this wouldn't be very interesting. Or it would be little more than a rehash of dozens of "was Jesus historical" arguments. I don't believe there's any archeological evidence for anyone in the NT - other than setting background characters like Herod, maybe Pontius. Roman emperors if they're referred to. There are a few fragments of textual evidence from near contemporary non-Christian sources, but even those are sparse and contested.

The quantity of artifacts stored in the British Museum is astonishing

@jpe1

9 ай бұрын

More precisely, the quantity of artifacts looted and stolen from sovereign nations and improperly held by the British Museum is an astonishing reminder of the arrogance of British imperialism.

@HerveyShmervy

9 ай бұрын

I hate that too but to play devils advocate if they were in location where there is homeland conflict then the museums could be caught in the crossfire

@SkinnerNoah

9 ай бұрын

​@@HerveyShmervyI agree, but as countries stabilize they should be able to get some stuff back. Maybe not every artifact, but at least the culturally important stuff

@jonnylumberjack6223

9 ай бұрын

I find it embarrassing. Between the Brits and the French we could build another Egypt.

@HerveyShmervy

9 ай бұрын

@SkinnerNoah agree. Though lets be honest here, there will never be peace in the middle east.

I'm not even religious but this whole history regarding the bible interests me a lot

@rodricbr

5 ай бұрын

same

@MrDukeSilverr

5 ай бұрын

for me its the same allure as arthurian legend stuff or the viking sagas, history behind the magical

@charlespartrick528

4 ай бұрын

I'm an atheist and I recommend reading all the major religious books not just the Bible.

@rtu9734

3 ай бұрын

@@charlespartrick528 bible is huge enough of a read to have time for more books about faith, tho I'm curious in case you have quick read recommendations

@rtu9734

3 ай бұрын

@@charlespartrick528 bible is huge enough of a read to have time for more books about faith. tho I'm curious in case you have quick read recommendations

Some of these comments are really annoying. A lot of people misrepresenting different sides of an argument that isn't even being made here. Great video!

Matt has the single most polite form of clapback on KZread and I am here for it

@annastar13

15 күн бұрын

Right!

This was so well done Matt! I love seeing things in clear presentations like this. I do think it's probably fair to assume much, if not all, of these Bronze age characters are completely lost to history. They could be fiction or just mythologized figures lost to historical record. I find so many internet skeptics who just axe-grind, wanting everything in the Bible to be fiction. I love seeing your sober take.

@UsefulCharts

9 ай бұрын

👆Check out this channel people. Lots of great interviews with some of the best religious scholars out there.

@Vyrlokar

9 ай бұрын

I'm an atheist, and I personally do have an axe to grind against the Catholic church (Don't ask, use your imagination), but it would be foolish to say that EVERYTHING in the bible is fiction. Now SOME parts there are either whole fictional, the result of so much embellishment that the real facts behind them are fiction, or just the result of scribal errors that then got polished in until they became almost indistinguishable from the rest of the text.

@Nick.T.A

9 ай бұрын

@@UsefulCharts What is your opinion on the Deir Alla inscription and it's inscription which might contain a reference to Balaam, the Moabite prophet from Numbers?

@PolycarpSalavarrieta

8 ай бұрын

You are one of the people who say its fiction ; a recurring title in your videos is “LUKE/ACTS IS FICTION NOT HISTORY” 😂😂

@gohan3448

8 ай бұрын

You need to repent while you still have time. You make all these videos trying to disprove the bible and God yet if God isnt real and the bible is fake why do you waste so much time talking about him and his word?

This was immensely interesting. Thank you for the effort to make this, well done.

Amazing stuff! I've watched several of these videos and I love each one of them! My 12-year-old niece who goes to a Christian school learns this stuff in her history class, yet it's amazing how it is basically scarce knowledge in the world we live in today. Looking forward to your videos in the future!

The fact that David was mentioned so early already speaks volumes about how the very earliest Judaeans viewed themselves even if it can't confirm the concrete David and I think that connects us to these iron age people in such a beautiful way

@berenlevia8486

8 ай бұрын

to deny David existed is to deny Jesus Christ existed as Jesus Christ is in the Davanic line . Also , 1 Chron. gives very clear evidence David existed 1) his place of birth , , the mention of the names past relatives and immediate family members 2) specific places he lived and exploits 3) the listing of his wives - who they were and where they were from and how many children and the names of his children by them fictional people , do not have that kind of information or detailed genealogies

@erastvandoren

16 күн бұрын

There was no kingdom in the presumed time of David

@Kaspar502

16 күн бұрын

@@erastvandoren that does not change the fact that so early people told each other about him

@erastvandoren

16 күн бұрын

@@Kaspar502 He might have been some kind of local leader, but certainly not a great king.

I think it’s important to point out that the Bronze Age, Iron Age and classical antiquity are useful categories for describing the history of the Middle East as far as Iran, the Mediterranean world, Northern Europe and North Africa, but aren’t all that useful when discussing anywhere else in the world. For example India, China and sub Saharan Africa all developed these tools on very different timescales.

@p.m.pilgrim

9 ай бұрын

Good thing the bible wasn't written in China or sub-saharan Africa then

@mythreepants

9 ай бұрын

Fair

@delwynjones6408

9 ай бұрын

While that is a good point I do think its interesting how well those general landmarks (i.e. Around 1000BCE and around 500BCE) map onto the history of india and China as well. For example, in india around 600/500 BCE was when the sramana movement got going along with the rise of the Mahajanapadas. Meanwhile in China around 1000BCE was when the Zhou replaced the Shang and around 500 to 200 BCE was the warring states period and Iron gained its ascendancy. It should also be pointed out that the terms bronze age and iron age are misleading as some iron working existed even before the rise of the "iron age" and bronze continued to be prized even during the iron age.

@ulrike9978

9 ай бұрын

@@delwynjones6408 Not relevant to your larger point, but Bronze Age and Iron Age does not mean that these materials were excusively in use in the respective periods or were not used before that. It exclusively refers to the majority of tools with cutting edges specifically being made out of bronze or iron (or stone). Sorry for being pedantic, but this is a very common misconception ...

@chimera9818

9 ай бұрын

Well even though not exactly work around 1200 seem to be when the last not direct empire of China collapsed and started the waring state period that lasted millennia while, Buddha lived around 500BC so not 100% accurate but there are stuff that come close

This is REALLY helpful. Thank you so much for all your hard work!!!!

Thank you for this. Well done as usual. Looking forward to your NT version.

Could not possibly get bored by this biblic series, I'm so in love with your job, keep it up

@jonathanpenduka7420

9 ай бұрын

atheist ?

It's amazing how much history we've lost even after we started writing things down.

@whidoineedthis

8 ай бұрын

Because people lie and try to rule the world

@gsweets

4 ай бұрын

It's not that it is lost. It's that it isn't taught!

@robertewalt7789

4 ай бұрын

Look at what you know about your own family. Do you know where or when your great-grand parents were born?

@jmmx69

18 күн бұрын

It's in the Bible, that's why the further you go back the more people understood just how accurate these parts of the Bible were and respected it as an authority on certain parts of history. Only recently have the people become so disconnected, uneducated and pliable that they can be lied to by so called historians and made to give no credit whatsoever to the books within the Bible.

I would absolutely love to see a video like this covering the New Testament! I was actually kind of bummed to see that it didn't. But hey, that just means potentially even more great content :)

This is so informative. As a lover of history, its great to learn a lot

Yes, a New Testament version would be great.

I think it's important to point out that, yes, while there is no archaeological record of (for example) the Israelite rulers prior to Ahab, including the "big three" of the Bible - Saul, David, and Solomon - there aren't that many records *period* which have survived (and been discovered) from back then, much less from the bronze age (for important Biblical characters like Abraham, Jacob, and Moses.) So it's not like those earlier Biblical characters are necessarily mythical - they just haven't been proven by the archaeological record. [Possibly "yet", but more likely won't ever be.]

@michaeldeaton

9 ай бұрын

Its important to point out that the reason there "Isn't many records from that period that have survived" is because it was dead flat in the middle of the Great Bronze Age collapse and its subsequent rebuilding period, where in no large civilizations outside Egypt from prior to the event, survived. Israel and Judah had no empires magically hidden during this time. Their population centers were tribal villages, the cultural record is clear you couldn't even distinguish the later self identifying Israelite population from the rest of the Canaanite population around them at this point of time, because they were one population.

@raetekusu1

9 ай бұрын

And adding onto what Michael said, this is probably the biggest bit of evidence we have for the fact that Saul, David, and Solomon were, at the very least, figures of tall tales and legends. While yeah, there was no great unified Israelite kingdom out there that anyone's aware of, there's too much noise about them for them to have just sprung up out of nowhere. Which leads me personally to believe they were local petty kings before the Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judah arose, and that tales of their exploits were greatly exaggerated. I mean, look at us 21st Century folk. There are a lot of people that have mythologized George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, to the point where you just cannot convince some people that Washington almost certainly never chopped down a cherry tree and said "I cannot tell a lie." These tales for Sl/Dv/Slm probably got more and more exaggerated each time, until someone finally wrote them down. Saul may have been a modest conqueror who got some cities on his side, David may have been a tactically-gifted and religiously-devout warlord who was consistently able to keep the peace and fight off the Philistines and other tribes around them, and Solomon may have been a decently foresighted ruler who used David's amassed wealth to do some good things and had himself a few women on the side, but now you read the Bible and Saul was the one man everyone in Israel rallied behind, David was the greatest God-Follower 5evar who never lost a battle and won time and again despite the odds, and Solomon was the wisest and richest man who ever lived and had a thousand women at his beck and call.

@LangThoughts

9 ай бұрын

Note that I fell that Mat should have put a question mark on one late Broze Age figure, Aaron, since those that say they are his Patrilineal descendants overwhelmingly show a genetic marker of a common patrilineal ancestor dated to the when Aaron would have lived. Genetics is no proof of name, so that's why I say a question mark.

@paulkoza8652

9 ай бұрын

Well, yet the Egyptian and Fertile Crescent records do record their histories during the bronze and iron ages. Could it be that the Israelite people were a backwater? Perhaps.

@Carpediem357

9 ай бұрын

Very true. I’ll add by saying even Jesus from the classical age cannot be said to have been Real or Fake. We have a Roman Record talking about a Jesus of Nazareth being crucified but the only other I guess documentations are from word of mouth and the Bible itself. But like many things we cannot just take word of mouth or the bible as accurate. It’s definitely possible this Jesus of Nazareth was the som of God and the Virgin Mary but we have yet to found any evidence to help support the claim

I think all your charts are great! And this info is a fabulous addition. Thank you!

You explain everything according to the timeline and suggest you keep up the good work. I personally learned a lot from this video.

0:00 The Complete Family Tree of The Bible 0:17 "This is based on complete fiction" 0:33 "Well, here's the thing...." 1:13 37 Real People mentioned in The Bible, found in The Archaeological Record, outside The Bible. *_Sponsored By_* 1:38 Dante Labs Genomes 3:11 Start of the video proper. *The 3 Ages of Antiquity* 3:22 Bronze, Iron, Classical 3:47 Iron Age 3:58 Classical Antiquity 4:15 The Old Testament takes place during The Bronze and then The Iron Age. *The Iron Age People are Archaeologically Recorded* 4:32 37 Bible Characters found in the archaeological record 5:24 Iron Age City Dwellers *Some of The Major Civilizations of Antiquity* 5:54 Egyptians, Hittites, and Greeks 6:05 The Bronze Age Collapse, Around 1200. 6:20 Greek Dark Ages *Old Testament people confirmed in the Archaeological Record* 7:56 Omri, King of Israel, Founder of Sumeria. ✅ 8:54 Ahab and Jezebel ✅ 9:25 Ben Hadad The II ✅ and his son, Hazael ✅ 9:38 Jemhorah, son of Ahab ✅ 11:09 King David 11:29 Jehu [There is a picture of him on a stone slab] ✅ 12:09 Ben Hadad III ✅ *Assyrian Records* 12:22 Jenoash et. al. ✅ 13:06 Assyrian King Tiglath- "pol" Pilesar II ✅ 13:35 Assyrian King Sargon II✅ *More Israelites* 14:20 Hezekiah ✅ 15:23 Isaiah The Prophet/Isaiah Navi 15:56 Manassah ✅ *The Egyptian Pharaohs* 17:30 17:43 The 5 Pharaohs "Pharaoh" 18:05 Shawshank/Shishak✅ 18:13 Osorkan IV✅ 18:24 Necho II✅ *Babylonian Records* 18:35 Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon 👑✅ 19:55 Belshazzar✅ The Crown Prince. *Persian Records* 20:24 Cyrus The Great, The Achaemenid Persian King who conquered Babylon and let The Israelites return to Israel. 20:55 Cyrus Cylinder *Greek Records* 21:30 Herodotus, The Father of History

Part 2 please Matt and thanks for this awesome video!

I'm not particularly religious, never have been, and I'm quite pleased about that. But I have read the Bible and I have often thought of it as a vastly underused historical resource. This video is very useful because it explains why the later Old Testament is so much more accurate than the earlier Old Testament. Trouble is, too many people do just dismiss it as a work of fiction. Ignore the religious aspects of it (remember it wasn't written as a religious text, just as a history of the Jewish people) and then re-examine it. There's a lot of verifiable historical accuracy in it and a lot more that is probably accurate, but that we can't prove.

Thank you for all your hard work, I appreciate it.

One of your very best videos, I think. I love how you are so careful to set things into clear context. It makes the information so powerful-that there’s no doubt exactly what you are discussing.

I’m going to say something controversial, Dr. Baker. I know that so many people criticize you for either presenting the Bible as it is and others criticize you for presenting the state of the art in biblical studies. Many in the latter category have said you hate G-d or religion or whatever. I can say that my belief in Judaism has been strengthened by videos like this. As someone with a K-12 orthodox Jewish education (thankfully with an incredibly strong emphasis on secular knowledge also), I wish someone would have taught me these things that I have learned from you. That we have archeological evidence for most the kings and most of what is said about them is more or less true (albeit exaggerated at times to a point). That King David was probably a real person etc. Yes, you don’t take the Bible literally (and because I know science is true, I don’t wholly either), but that does not mean that your videos are anti religion. So I appreciate that. I have to sign off for shabbat. Shabbat Shalom.

@masonicaero09

9 ай бұрын

I echo this. Prior to diving into ordained ministry, I starter confronting some of these "info-hazards" that many faith-driven individuals are hesitant to address. What this has exposed is a challenge to my faith that actually strengthens what is there. When you can acknowledge the lengths and limits of what is known, you are left with those things still left unknown. Addressing that unknown is where we all have a journey to travel. Even though many centuries of church dogma has driven many Christians (specifically) to see "questioning" as a negative, I think it causes us to purify what it is we do and do not truly believe.

Absolutely amazing. Yeah, definetly wanna see more!

Thanks I always enjoy your work, get well soon.

I'm not Christian or Jewish, but the Bible is a very valuable historical document, even if most of it isn't actual history. It may have embellishments and even fabrications, but there's also a lot of verified history in it, and it wouldn't surpise me if we find more evidence in the future for people like David or Solomon. On top of the history held within, the Bible is also useful for understanding the mindsets of the people who were around when it was first written, and dismissing it as pointless or mere fiction is a great disservice to the historical community

@paulkoza8652

9 ай бұрын

The purpose of the Bible is religion, not history. There is more historical error in it than fact.

@CharlotteIssyvoo

9 ай бұрын

It's also useful for understanding the mindsets Jews and Christians for a few thousand years, up to and including the present day.

@AlphaGeekgirl

9 ай бұрын

Did anyone notice that the naysayer’s comments consisted of a single, subjective sentence, with no backup to support their claim? It says a lot about their lack of critical thinking, and there inability to put forward a reasoned argument. 🤦🏻‍♀️ KZread is probably the only place they get to express their opinions without being shouted down like they would be at home

@SkinnerNoah

9 ай бұрын

@@CharlotteIssyvoo to an extent, but modern Christianity and Judaism are very diverse groups, and not all of them actually follow the bible directly. Many see it as a baseline for their beliefs and not the end all be all, others see it as pure metaphor. It's more useful for understanding the people of the time. For example, the KJV can give insight into Renaissance Christianity, while the dead sea scrolls can educate us about second temple Judaism

@jeffmacdonald9863

9 ай бұрын

@@SkinnerNoah I'd say none of them follow the bible directly. Especially those who most claim to. They all interpret it through modern lenses.

Man... I LOVE YOU! Literally! I like the fact that you're so objective. Telling us what exactly is, and not what we would want to hear! Like when you put a disclaimer on David's historicity. Thanks a lot. And I'll definitely look forward to a similar video about the new testament!

Hi Math, i'm from Brazil and i love your chanel. Thanks for sharing this things with us!

Well explained and great way to illustrate the narrative.

I truly appreciate the work and effort you put into creating these videos. I never find them to be preachy or pushing religion, but instead show clear historical timelines as described in the text.

As a Christian, I absolutely loved this. Thank you 😊

@celestialsatheist1535

9 ай бұрын

Check out all the blunders of the Brian

@audreya3127

9 ай бұрын

@@celestialsatheist1535 you need to mind your business just as I was minding mine.

@celestialsatheist1535

9 ай бұрын

@@audreya3127 you mean my business right. Because I was minding your business something that I have no business doing

@Alexq79-

9 ай бұрын

You’re gonna get a bunch of people angry just by stating you’re religious. Sad world smh

@audreya3127

9 ай бұрын

@@Alexq79- so true! I said nothing wrong.

This was so well done! I'd love to see a similar video about the New Testament.

I love your point of view - not fiction or non-fiction. It's how ancients wrote! Very good work!

@DavidSmith-kd8mw

4 ай бұрын

In some cases they probably wrote what the thought was non-fiction, but had limited (or very limited) access to historical records. If everyone though your entire life has told you god spoke to your ancestors in a load voice when they were camped by a mountain you would probably believe it and report it. Then if your parents told you how their parents told them that their city was destroyed and they were carried off you would also believe that. If you then reported the history of your people you might write both as fact, including all details available to you.

Thank you Matt Baker as always! You are enlightening and educational I enjoy 90% of what you put out. And I love all the Bible stuff.

Excellent as always. Thanks, Matt. Please part 2!

The Charts put a greater understanding of what the Bible was, and is today. I appreciate your time and energy creation this work. Thank you.

This is very well done. Ty. I was captivated..

Such a lovely video showcasing both actual history as well as how literary genres have evolved over time.

Being a Jew gave me a lot of perspective on religious text cuz to me it feels more like the mythology of my people. As every myth there’s some truth within the myth.

@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682

9 ай бұрын

I mean Matt probably has 3 different pov his former Cult member pov, his Academic pov, and his religious Judaic POV

@independentcomicsfan2867

9 ай бұрын

​@@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682 cult?

@in_ur_moms_house

9 ай бұрын

​@@independentcomicsfan2867 he's commented on it in numerous videos and even has a vid solely dedicated to British Israelism(the name of said cult).

@in_ur_moms_house

9 ай бұрын

Myths by definition are not factual/based on true events. As Matt says; if it's partly factual it's legend, if it's completely made up it's myth.

@abuhado-verbigraciaramirez8682

9 ай бұрын

@inmyownlittlehell yes its offshoots are more extremist this cult since 2016 has since mellowed down and backed down in a lot of statements rather this ideology is called Armstrongism

Well delivered and totally informative, thank you.

When I have some down time. This is my go to. I find this channel useful… -when doing the dishes. -making bread -doing certain tasks at work, grading,setting pavers or deconstructing concrete forms etc. -also, turning my brain off a little, before going to sleep. Which I am trying to do right meow.

This was really interesting. I would love to see a similar video of the New Testament

Waiting for part two. This is too interesting a subject to leave us hanging. Great work.

Fantastic video! I've always known that the Old Testament mixed history with fable and your video helped to illustrate which is which in such an objective and constructive way.

No matter how many times Matt explains his religious charts, there are always those kind of comments. Your patience amazes me. I'd tell them all to take a long walk off a short pier! Great video, Matt!

Fascinating. Would like to see the follow up on the New Testament as well. Thanks for posting this!

Thank you Matt for making history easily accessible.

Wow, serious study and visuals are great to see, with the archaeological artefacts, and must say very humbly done. Thankyou.

Yes! Volume 2 on New Testament figures! I love your vids and how they are visually laid out in charts!! It’s crazy how all these valuable artifacts from these cultures are in other museums in countries across the globe… I’m sure there are reasons for this like the effort taken to undertake the task of discovering them, from said countries…. But nevertheless something to think about…

I was cooking, and wondered what I could be watching while eating my dinner. This came in handy. Thank you very much

Very interesting, would love to see a part 2!

These videos are very helpful..Thank you!!

This was a very interesting, informative video. Your scholastic research is thorough. 😊

This is wonderful, thanks! And yes, I would love to see a similar charting of New Testament folks. Cheers!

I normally love your videos and this is fascinating as usual, but the bit about the Bronze Age collapse could have been more accurate, I´m afraid (source: I´m an archaeologist specialising in the Bronze Age-Iron Age transition). So in case you are reading this, for future reference: The Greek Dark Ages are considerably longer than 250 years, at least in most sources I have read. People disagree a bit where they are supposed to end, but they are usually assumed to cover the entire Early Iron Age (until 700 BCE at the latest) as well as the latest part of the Bronze Age (the 250 years you mentioned would be that time frame). Also, a lot of archaeologists avoid the term today, because it´s a bit disparaging and also, it was originally chosen to reflect the fact that we didn´t know much about that time. This is no longer the case, so the tendency seems to go towards using "Postpalatial Period" (for the Bronze Age part) and "Early Iron Age" instead. I also assume that the volcano eruption you mentioned as a potential cause for the BA collapse is the Thera eruption? Because that was several centuries earlier and very likely not a factor (exactly how many is a difficult problem, but it´s at the very least 200 years and potentially up to 500). Likewise, the pandemic idea is usually based on Hittite sources about some sort of plague, but once again, this is about 120 years before the actual BA collapse. It was certainly a factor in what happened to the Hittite empire and their fall in turn likely had further destabilizing effects, but I wouldn´t call it a pandemic. We do have ecidence for climate change around that time that could have lead to famine, and also for a potential earthquake storm in Greece. Migration also happened, but a lot of it may have been a consequence of whatever caused the collapse and not the cause of the collapse itself. War is a difficult topic - it´s attested, as far as I know, for the final destruction of Ugarit via letters send by the king, but it´s much more dubious for a lot of the Greek sites, for example, where - if anything - more of a revolution against the palatial elite seems to have taken place. Also also I would be very careful with claiming that Iliad and Odyssey are reflecting Bronze Age stories exclusively. We assume that the oral tradition they are based on started in the Bronze Age, probably in the Postpalatial Period, i.e. after 1200 BCE, but a large part of both poems was formed during the Iron Age, so while there are Bronze Age reflections in there, they are fewer than people often assume. I apologize for the essay, but this really stood out to me and I hope it will help for future videos!

@luckyblockyoshi

9 ай бұрын

any recommended readings to find out more about that time period?

@BrandonHensleyEMD

9 ай бұрын

I'm always amazed at how quickly archaeological and historical consensus can change. My Classical Anthropology course in college (around 2010) still presented the Greek Dark Ages as established fact and mostly focused on the Egyptian influences seen in Greek art at the time. Not being a professional classicist after graduation, I admit my knowledge of the period stops with what I was presented. Thank you for my internet rabbit hole for the next few weeks!

@PetriBass

9 ай бұрын

This is incredible information! I would love to learn more about this time period... Thank you for posting this!

@OurLordandSaviorSigmar

9 ай бұрын

Do you have sources which discuss recent discoveries, because I admit my knowledge on the topic is outdated

@michaelwright2986

9 ай бұрын

@@BrandonHensleyEMD I've taught undergraduate courses, though not in Classics, and you can generally assume that there is a lag between what is presented in u/g courses and the latest news from the knowledge front. This is partly inertia and time allocation (academics' careers are not dependent on their u/g courses, for the most part) and partly sensible: for a few years, the hot conversation will be "The Bronze Age Collapse: Yes or No? And if so, Why?" and it will be framed in terms of the consensus that existed before the conversation started, so you'll need to know a bit about that to understand it. I mean, if you're reading stuff that says "The Bronze Age Collapse is an illusion," it helps if you know what it was supposed to be. Also, the latest and greatest theories are not always right--I'm of an age when the most popular explanation for religion was magic mushrooms, and that didn't stand the test of time. All that said, it would also be good to have u/g courses of the form: "Current controversies in ", if the structures are flexible enough to allow that (they weren't at the place I worked).

Excellent work, thank you!

Thanks for your thorough research and clear visual display 😊

I always wanted to be an archeologist and have a background in Humanities of Religion and Mythology. Your charts are very informative and I really enjoy your videos. Fact vs fiction has been a question forever. I find that more I study, research that some truth is a percent of verbal stories are of true origin. Just my thought and thank you very much for your videos. Blessings.

Definately do a New Testament one! This was great!

I would love a part two for the New Testament. You explain things with such clarity!

@UsefulCharts

8 ай бұрын

New Testament video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZWZyZttgdzXY5M.html

Amazing video! Thank you for taking the time to research. Please do a video on New Testament characters from the Bible if you can!

Gorgeous! I never came across such clear and well based overview about the historicity of biblical persons! I'm not a believer at all, but this is important and highly interesting, though.

A most instructive and even-handed presentation, as usual! I would absolutely love to see a similar video on the Apocrypha and New Testament (or one on each)!

This is one of the best biblical history lesson I have had. Thank you for creating this. May I ask if you could provide more references for finding the info that you presented please? Could you also create a video on what those archeological artefacts say about those historical biblical people please?

Glad to see this channel waking up

Awesome!! Would love to see a similar thing for the NT!!

"Pics or it didn't happen" 😂😂 This is why i love this channel.

i knew people who thought jerusalem was a fake/mad up place from the bible. suffice to say they were shocked when i pointed to it on a map

Yes, definitely do a video covering the New Testament! Very good work with this video, mazel tov!

Would love a part two for the new testament

Thank you so much for drawing out the Bronze Age, Iron Age, and Classical Age. I always knew the terms, but I did not know how they fit against the Bible's timeline. Please continue on with the NT Bible characters confirmed in archeology!

As a staunch Catholic I loved this and the NT video. It really helps me deepen my faith.

@gregoryt8792

8 ай бұрын

You need to watch Jacob Prasch videos as he really knows the Bible.

@anthroimperzia3927

4 ай бұрын

Its nice to see some people still holding on to faith in the face of an Atheistic hive-mind

Thank you for going thru this. Very interesting!!!

I am a native Hebrew speaker, and can read all those Paleo-Hebrew records that you showed. (Although many of the letters are very blurry and difficult to read).

@czarbuscus1475

8 ай бұрын

I'm teaching myself hebrew currently

@user-sh3cf7kd6e

8 ай бұрын

@@czarbuscus1475 Good luck! Do you know other Semitic languages? It would be much easier to learn Hebrew like that (and vice-versa).

Yes, I would like to see a similar video on the NT. Thanks!

Definitely would like to see a video on actual characters in the New Testament. Good work brother

I'd love a NT version. I'd also be fascinated to see a timeline comparing events in the Levant with contemporary events in Greece, or Rome. I have never seen those threads all lined up next to each other, but would love to see. (eg, exodus was a contemporary of the Trojan War, I think? What was going on in Judah during the peleponesian war?)

@babydemon90

9 ай бұрын

That's harder to say because the 'exodus' as described can't really be pinned down to a specific date... different people place it at different times.

@CoryTheRaven

5 ай бұрын

Kind of... It's useful to think of both the Trojan War and the Exodus/Conquest of Canaan as events of the Late Bronze Age Collapse. Neither one likely took place exactly as written, but the general outline of the events is probably correct (or at least there's no really useful reason to doubt it). In the case of the Exodus, you might have charismatic leaders like Moses and Aaron who lead a group or groups of semitic slaves out of Egypt during a period of environmental disasters (which seem to be one of the speculative causes of the Late Bronze Age Collapse). That group or groups of slaves spend time on the Sinai Peninsula as a nomadic culture where they mingle with and pick up customs, beliefs, and members from the surrounding groups like the Midianites. Then they migrated into Canaan right around the time of the collapse of the Canaanite city-states, whose refugees mingle with the new migrants and together they start building decentralized villages in the Judean hill country and develop into the Hebrew culture of the Iron Age.

@alwilson3204

2 ай бұрын

@@babydemon90 Thutmose the 3rd, and Amenhotep the 2nd, fit the bill on most counts and can be pinned down pretty accurately.

U sure the characters here didn’t just pay to get the verification checkmarks?

@UsefulCharts

9 ай бұрын

Haha. Best comment so far!

@djaehudson2041

Ай бұрын

​@UsefulCharts is this chart available?

@UsefulCharts

Ай бұрын

Yes. Usefulcharts.com

@mattgroo1820

8 күн бұрын

😂

There's a video by Bible Project that also talks about how the history in the Old Testament was written more like moral lessons taught using historical figures. It reminds me of the George Washington and the cherry tree story everyone gets told in early elementary school 😃

Thank you for preparing and sharing this important video.

I love these videos! Thank you so much for this! Alsoo I was waiting for Alexander the Great huhu. He was mentioned in bible as well but not directly.

Thanks Matt! I, for one, would love to see a NT accounting of historical persons. I would not be surprised if most of them can be verified by either Greek or Roman sources, but I think it would be very interesting.

@stephengray1344

9 ай бұрын

The vast majority of characters in the New Testament characters can't be verified from Greek and Roman sources. But that's because most of them are Jews or Christians who were not at all notable outside their respective communities (and sometimes not even then). If you're ignoring the Jewish sources (Josephus, the Talmud) and the Christian sources (the New Testament, the Church Fathers up until whatever date you start dismissing their accounts as legends) the people mentioned in your sources are going to almost exclusively be Roman officials (including Emperors) or members of the Herodian dynasty.

@Blackadder75

9 ай бұрын

Herod, Pilate, Augustus, maybe some head priest, that's about it. The majority of characters in the NT are common people who would not be recorded. We know a lot about common people in Roman times, but that's often from calamities like Pompeii and Herculaneum, where the people and their belonging were frozen in time.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

9 ай бұрын

​@@stephengray1344at least jesus, james, peter and paul has contemporary source outside bible. Mostly from tacitus and josephus. Most roman and Jew high priest character also has lot outside evidence, thanks to herod love to plaster his name everywhere.

@jeffmacdonald9863

9 ай бұрын

@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 James does, fairly solidly, though only in Josephus, I believe, so that wouldn't count as "Greek or Roman sources". Josephus also mentions John the Baptist and that's considered authentic. His references to Jesus are more contested, but most scholars do think they're at least partly authentic. They're not really contemporary though and most like just trace to what Christians were saying. I'm not aware of any contemporary references to Peter or Paul outside of Biblical sources - or even anything at all outside of Christian sources.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

9 ай бұрын

@@jeffmacdonald9863 josephus was THE Roman advisors for judea province. He is as roman as you can get from frontiers province. As for peter historicity, IIRC, some jewish tradition has mentioned peter. I cound john the baptist as high priest class since traditionally, his family was part of them.

This was fantastic. Please do a New Testament version. Thanks!

Beautiful work

I'm saving this one! Very helpful, thanks!

I'm actually surprised that you, as a self proclaimed non-believer (if I remember correctly from your video about the biblical chart) spoke about this topic. I commend you for being that brave. I disagree with some of your early comments in the video, but its rare for non believers to admit ANY historical evidence of the Bible. Thank you for having the courage. Take care.

@UsefulCharts

9 ай бұрын

I'm only a non-believer if by "believer" you either mean a Christian or anyone who believes that Genesis & Exodus should be taken literally. I'm Jewish and I believe in God.

@jakefox9087

9 ай бұрын

@@UsefulCharts Ok, gotcha. I wasn't sure I was remembering correctly, so I didn't want to misinterpret your stance. Thank you for the clarification. Take care!

@celestialsatheist1535

9 ай бұрын

What no ' non believers don't have the courage to admit that the bible has ' some ' truth in it ' . Yeah I wouldn't be surprised to know you don't know that many non believers and take that old atheist stereotypes. Anyway sorry to break it to you. The bible still has a LOT of historical and scientific blunders. The discussed topics in the video doesn't save the bible from the deep hole that it is in

You do incredible research and work. I would like to see you do the same for the new testament.

Incredible, thank you!

Fascinating, I'm going to jump right into your NT video.