This is probably the clearest and most concise account of the discrepancies of the various biblical texts, placed in the context of known historical events. I guess one conclusion could be that, since he was born sometime between 6BC and AD6 we actually have the BC/AD line in the correct place :) Merry Christmas!

@shubhamraj9986

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no how can people still getting their brainwashed very well in 21st century ❤️ Om ❤️

@GabrielBlancoCabassa

2 жыл бұрын

Split the difference, minimize the error!

@celeridad6972

2 жыл бұрын

@@GabrielBlancoCabassa a tale as old as time

@mabdo88

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus is the christ within , the 🌞 Sun

@blindtherapper2470

2 жыл бұрын

@@shubhamraj9986 ?

I knew there were discrepancies, but thanks for laying out the historical arguments so clearly!

@rosem5041

2 жыл бұрын

Please read Chapter Maryam the blessed mother of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him known as Eesa in the final revelation the Holy Quran.

@jaanrambo4521

2 жыл бұрын

Rose please write (P.B.U.H) aswel thank you.

@jaanrambo4521

2 жыл бұрын

After you write EESA (A.S) I hope it is cleare thank you.

@basharatnazeer4697

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosem5041 I would like to read, what do you want me to notice from there?

@vipertact

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosem5041 Better stick to the original Torah.

Very enlightening video and I enjoyed it as well. You have a unique way of giving us the facts in an engaging way. Thank you for all of the work you put into it!

Hi Matt. I enjoyed your video a lot and it raised in me this question about my faith. I recently brought this discrepancy between Matthew and Luke to a biblical archeologist friend and I'm hoping you might consider the evidence he brought forth for me that was lacking in your video. The information that he shared with me is not readily available because it includes discoveries made within the last 20 years; it is nowhere listed on wiki or the first dozen google answers. So, Quirinius was "twice-governor" of Syria. He was governor of Syria when Herod was alive, and he was also governor at the time of that later date, 6ce. This has been mostly confirmed by the recent translations of ancient texts. You will notice in your video that you presented Luke 2:1, where Luke writes, "This was the *first* census" that was taken while Quirinius was governor. That implies that there was second, or more, censuses taken. In fact, wiki only lists "THE census of quirinius." In my research on the history of Michigan I discovered that this type of verbal confusion is common. For instance, there is a 1st and 2nd Treaty of Chicago that the US made with three native groups in the early 1820's; but the Second Treaty of Chicago is frequently referenced as "The Treaty of Chicago" because the other one is so often overlooked. I believe a similar situation is happening here. Luke writes that this census was taken "for all the roman world." The second census that Quirinius took was this 6ce one, which was, of course, for Judea only, as you pointed out -- but this simply gives evidence that this Judean census is the implied second census, not the full, first census. In addition: a census of all the roman world was an event that would have taken many years, as emissaries from Rome travelled on horseback throughout the Mediterranean. So to pin a census on a particular year is also difficult. All of this information puts the birth of Jesus at 7-5bce, from my understanding. Is any of this information useful? If you find time for a response I'd love to hear from ya. -John, in Michigan

@withlessAsbestos

5 ай бұрын

I was wondering about the specifics of quirinius’s governorship. It makes sense that he would have served twice, because of how the senate appointed Governors (although I’m not sure if that was the same in Imperial Rome as in Republican Rome)

@igrim4777

4 ай бұрын

Adding the ordinate "first" to imply there were multiple following is _not_ the same as dropping the ordinate. That people drop the "second" from the name of the treaty only implies ignorance on their part that there was a first, which happens with the Geneva Conventions regarding the treatment of non-combatants, or conflation of the two, which happens with the Geneva Conventions, or that the second is of such overwhelming importance and newer thus more relevant, that it is obviously the one being discussed, as happens with the Geneva Conventions.

@glenntungay5140

4 ай бұрын

I agree Quirinius must have been governor twice - Luke was very specific to say the census was for the entire empire, not just Judea. And he was writing to an official of some standing in the empire to specifically give a historical account.

@stuartsummers1303

4 ай бұрын

What you’ve said is on Wikipedia but it stipulates that this claim is made without evidence. Convenient that your friend can’t provide any actual evidence for his claims…

@trevorcurb4520

4 ай бұрын

In Greek protos can mean first or before. Before Quirinius was governor and held his census in Judea is also an option

The historian in me appreciates this video. The Catholic in me also appreciates the video as well. Thanks for the great video.

@kzizzles8329

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, I think it's rather interesting that 1 A.D seems to be the median between the two potential dates but that also might be coincidental

@muhammadHassan-kj1jy

2 жыл бұрын

@@kzizzles8329 Maybe thats why year Zero was meant to go there?

@spq_sean

2 жыл бұрын

Also a Catholic who appreciates the video

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269

2 жыл бұрын

+ Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saved by Jesus Christ, my friend?

Thank you Matt for such a great informative video. This is the first video I've ever watched on your channel and I can say it really enriched me a lot. Furthermore, I'm so pleased everyone in the comments section is so polite. It's been two days since Christmas but nonetheless, I want to wish everyone a merry Christmas. God bless you all!!! ✝✝✝🙌🙌🙌

Great video brother! I can sleep now, thank you for covering a lot of questions and such a respectful video.

Great job on a timely and challenging topic. Merry Christmas!

I actually really appreciate how you start by honestly saying there won't be a definitive answer and not save that conclusion to the end. This transparency is lacking on KZread because channels want them views and retention rates. Now I have my expectations set and I'm still going to watch the entire thing.

You overlooked one major fact. Zacharias was of the order (course) of Abijah. In I Chronicles chapter 24 king David divided the priests into family groups (courses) and assigned to each of them the weeks in which they would officiate the temple services. The course of Abijah was served during early June and after serving his week of service Zacharias went home and Elizabeth conceived (most likely in late June). It is clearly stated that John the Baptist was 6 months older than Jesus. Since we can reasonably assume that John was born in the spring then it follows that Jesus would have been born 6 months later in the fall, probably in September.

@janellehouillon9067

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct Papa T. Jesus was most likely born on Feast of Tabernacles. When He would Tabernacle (dwell) with the people. Same time He will return for His Second Coming. The Lord's timing has nothing to do with the Gregorian calendar, but with The Feasts.

@geraldwalsh6489

2 жыл бұрын

He definitely was not born December 25th. That was adopted from pagan winter solstice celebrations such as Saturnalia. So why did the Catholic church adopt this festival and does God aporove? The church did this to get pagans to join the chjrch to increase flock size. God does not approve of this,not does he approve of xmas

@johnquintinwisenowistheend431

2 жыл бұрын

I was born August 28 1967 two weeks early, conceived in December

@papat9470

2 жыл бұрын

@@janellehouillon9067 I like to think he was born on the day of atonement because he came to atone for our sins but of course that’s just wishful thinking on my part. Your idea is also a pleasing one and just as likely to be correct.

@papat9470

2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldwalsh6489 I agree. Cain chose to worship God in his own way and it was rejected by God. Saul chose to worship God in his own way and it was rejected by God. The Priesthood of Jesus day chose to worship God in their own way and it was rejected by God. Why people think they can worship God in their own way is a mystery to me. I argued many times with my wife about this subject over how we raised our sons. It took me years to get through to her about it but eventually she began to teach it to her sisters. There was no way I could teach my children to believe in lies and then have to face God about it.

Matt, Thanks for your interesting and accurate analysis! Wayne, one of your chart holders

Thanks for your very clear unclarity! Seriously though, I very much appreciate your explanation and I've subscribed to your channel to check out more of your videos.

In his book The Spirit of the Liturgy, Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) has a whole chapter devoted to how the Christian liturgy is tied to time and the four seasons. Christmas was celebrated on the winter solstice because it is the darkest day of the year, but hence forth the days get longer and lighter. Christians believe Christ is the light of the world dispelling the darkness, and bringing light to the world. This is similarly why the feast of the passion of John the Baptist is celebrated on June 24th near the summer solstice, in John 3:30, we read John the Baptist saying “He must increase, but I must decrease.” After the summer solstice the days get shorter, or decrease. The sun, associated with John the Baptist, now decreases and prepares the way for the coming of Christ at Christmas. It’s an idea that’s sadly been lost, but the Christian liturgy and liturgical seasons are highly tied to the four seasons and express the cosmic dimension of Christ’s death and resurrection. Thank you for your informative video and your great channel!

@payamabbasi3555

2 жыл бұрын

Romans could have been mithraists and that explains why winter solstice was so important to them. In ancient Iran and even today Yalda or Chelleh is celebrated on winter solstice.

@Normal_user_coniven

2 жыл бұрын

That's why 21-25 December is called the birthday of the Sun, it has been celebrated in every Sun worshiping religion, while 21-25 June is called the day of Sun death. John of Patmos was an astrologer, that's why John's gospel and John's Book of Revelation have so many future sights, codes and astronomy, like the stars that told the Persians about Jesus' birth. That was so obvious, and that's why I consider it a gnosis gospel; since gnosis used to relate religion to astrology. Also, John's books used to describe the Son of God as a God himself, while the other gospels used to describe the Son of God close to the meaning of God's lover, just like the old testament. That's why the Romans worked so hard to put John's books in the Bible, because it is very similar to their religion.

@arubislander

2 жыл бұрын

@@Normal_user_coniven The story of the Magi is not in John's Gospel all. Nor is any Nativity story except for the statement that "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, as of the Only-Begotten of the Father."

@EchoBravo370

2 жыл бұрын

I guess Christ is an inappropriate god for folks in the southern hemisphere to consider their own then.

@TheKing_JOSH

2 жыл бұрын

@Yohanan facts Jesus is the real king

Even though a lot of recorded history turns out to be an estimate, it still soothes my mind to at least have a general idea of when we are talking about. Thanks for this great explanation!

@jayit6851

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah when it comes to dates that long ago, exact years (while nice to know chronologically) are not that important as life remained pretty much the same in scales that small. Whether it was 4 BCE or 6 CE we can imagine that time period and know there was a King who was vassal to Augustus

@roems6396

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayit6851 What king are you talking about?

@FuManchu5ltr

2 жыл бұрын

Would really cool to see some progression on this by following up about the “star”. What was going on it the sky through that general window of time? Comets, Supernova etc

@VINvIN344

2 жыл бұрын

don't trust your mind, you're clearly delusional. see a dr. they have great medication for ppl that believe in in myths and have imaginary friends.. ppl of that ilk are an embarrassment to humanity and to evolution, congratulations.

@catserver8577

2 жыл бұрын

@@VINvIN344 Who the heck are you talking to?

I enjoyed both your research and presentation. It gave a bit more clarity to the question with possible answers to really consider. Thanks!

@jimkelly49

Жыл бұрын

September 11, 3 b.c

@patrickhayes3099

Жыл бұрын

For me, it put the timeline together in a way I could not as a kid, flipping between multiple chapters & encyclopedias.....

@mikeraspanti5342

Жыл бұрын

@Peter Romero, What are we considering here? Is it more important to know WHEN Christ was born, or as to WHY he was born.

@patrickhayes3099

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeraspanti5342 this is an historical, secular exercise, not a spiritual exercise, to add another layer of context.

@mikeraspanti5342

Жыл бұрын

@Patrick Hayes, More than historical.The date of His birth means very little. His coming has eternal ramifications.

18:59 I truly enjoyed this presentation! Timelines have always helped me to set historical events in logical order, although, in this case, it’s understood there’s no accuracy. Close, but no cigar. I believe our Savior was born in the spring.

I just stumbled onto this, and I'm glad I did. Very well presented and interesting video. Your chart made a complicated subject quite easy to take in.

I always find your work so insightful and informative, thank you for that. Forgive me if you've covered this before, but I would love to see a video explaining the history of the worlds calendars and perhaps how we got to the Gregorian calendar today over other calendars still used throughout the world

@litigioussociety4249

Жыл бұрын

It's basically a result of Europe being the first to colonize and thereby have influential power over the world. AD was just am alternative to the Roman system used that dated back to Christ instead of a certain emperor of Rome. Charlemagne being the first Holy Roman Emperor used the dating system, and those who came after him kept with the tradition. By the time of the Age of Exploration (Columbus, Magellan, etc.) it was the standard, so it spread over the world. The Gregorian system was just a fix for the calendar, because the Julian calendar was based on a year being 365.25 days, but the Gregorian calendar more accurately sets a year as 365.2425 days. Currently, I think a leap day needs to be skipped in the year 3000 or 4000 to keep the solstices from shifting dates over time, but the current calendar essentially doesn't change for many, many generations; whereas, under the Julian Calendar the solstices and equinoxes changed a day every four hundred years.

@JelMain

Жыл бұрын

@@litigioussociety4249 The essence of the redating was the need to clarify the timeline of history, as Bishop Ussher's biblical dating had become untenable given the breakthroughs on cosmology and geology. For many years, that stopped at the Gregorian 11 days correction, with a degree of uncertainty recognised in the idea of "The Dark Ages" as late as the 1960s, which has now been dispelled. One very useful text, developing on the Deas Sea Scrolls data suggesting Essene roots, is Peter Cresswell's Jesus the Terrorist, connecting his circle to the Sicarii. That the Vatican suppressed the data for so long is utterly offensive to historians, and we're still far from solid on the cultural impact thirty years down the road as a result. We've seen a similar clarification of the Pharaonic Chronology as well in the last 50 years.

@leaaugusta9924

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting, though, to see how the Gregorian calendar compares to some others in use, e.g. the Jewish calendar and that used in Nepal. If you know of any in which a week is a unit of something other than 7 days, even better!

@JelMain

Жыл бұрын

@@leaaugusta9924 You're dealing with sight irregularities in the moon's orbit of the earth, defining the month, and the earth's orbit of the sun, defining the year, and it's own rotation, defining the day. The proportion of approximately 365.25 days, adjusting the length of the hour slightly homes in on that, so with the leap year system as a further adjustment, you're dealing with factors of 365, which are 5 and 73. One is slightly too short, the other far too long, and so the irregular month lengths became arbitrarily established. The Mayan calendar, on the other hand, used a 20-day month, with 5 extra days interpolated.

@leaaugusta9924

Жыл бұрын

@Rahere We asked Matt for a video on the topic, not mansplaining in the comments.

Papa t you have raised an interesting point of perspective smashed it out the park mate

Love it! Great way of creating more questions from a question. 😂

Great vid! As a Christian, specific dates such as Jesus’s birth aren’t important (I celebrate Christmas according to the Julian Calendar, which falls on January 7). Rather, the message of giving, loving your neighbor, and celebrating Jesus is much more important. I wish everyone the best during this holiday season, God bless!

@calebcustombricks2631

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask why you use the Julian calendar?

@henrystoes6508

2 жыл бұрын

@@calebcustombricks2631 They are likely an Eastern Orthodox Christian, since that is their liturgical calendar :)

@zakh-g4893

2 жыл бұрын

The Christmas of today I do not celebrate as the day of Christ’s birth but its internal message of family, kinship and coming together to enjoy life is more important to my self than knowing when Jesus was born, though it would be a nice detail to have.

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269

2 жыл бұрын

@@zakh-g4893 + Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saved by Jesus Christ, my friends?

The story I was told during my years at Catholic grammar school was: Dec. 25th was chosen as the day to celebrate Jesus’s birthday because it was also the day of celebration of the winter solstice. By adopting that date, the Church leaders hoped 1) to take advantage of the customary nature of solstice gatherings, and 2) to gradually supplant the solstice celebration with the so-called date of Jesus’s birth. I was never taught that the earliest Christians believed the 25th of December was actually Jesus’s birthday. I was also taught that the year of Jesus’s birth was unclear and probably fell somewhere between 4 BC and 7 AD. It appears the nuns’ teachings aligned fairly well with the facts in this video. Another thing to note: Luke, one of the Gospel authors mentioned in the video, was not an apostle and had never met Jesus. Matthew had been an apostle and knew Jesus for several years before the crucifixion. It’s likely that during the time span of Jesus’s ministry, he shared some stories of his early life with his followers. That might give more credence to Matthew’s version.

@SaudadeCB

4 ай бұрын

25th of December is never the winter solstice. Stop believing in lies that are easily debunked.

@nairobichik

4 ай бұрын

Exactly what we were taught at our catholic school. Also we were taught that Easter was the most important time to commemorate, the most important date in the Christian calendar. The birth of Jesus was important but his death and resurrection is what being Christian is all about.

@lexprontera8325

3 ай бұрын

"It appears the nuns’ teachings aligned fairly well with the facts in this video." Go back, look again. "terminus ante quem" (TAQ) "the point before which" is 4 BCE, meaning "no later than 4 BCE" (latest end date) "terminust post quem" (TPQ) "the point after which" is 6 CE, meaning "no earlier than 6 CE" (earliest start date) Absurdly, the 2 sources on Jesus' birth have the TAQ come BEFORE the TPQ. Either one is wrong, or the other, ...or they CAN be both wrong... but the only thing NOT possible is both being right.

Thank you for this KZread. I've been struggling to get the real deal on all of this and asking the Father for help. Maybe we aren't supposed to know when but that He was born, died and then has risen ❤️

Merry Chrismas Matt. I found this channel only recently and have found these charts and videos so interesting. I even made my own family tree on Ancestry and managed to trace my details back to the middle ages thanks to these videos. Yes I had to pause them and transfer all the names. Such an interesting subject.

Really well done! Thank you for your work! God bless you and yours! ✝️

Very good outline involving many dates I had not been aware of. Your discussion raises a question I have had for years. If the year of the census is known taking Mary too Bethlehem, shouldn't we also know the time of year? Such travel would never occur during December. More likely late spring early summer. December has never made sense to me.

Always awesome to absorb your videos Matt I wonder as a believer in the historical Jesus what your take is on Dr. Carrier or Caesar's Messiah etc. A video on Jesus historicity please!

I enjoyed and appreciate your work on this, especially how you laid out the timeline so well and cited sources.

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

I talked with some Atheists online and we came to an interesting Result: Atheists dont have this 'inherent desire to spread their word', which of course is UNDERSTANDABLE buuut it also has negative side-effects, evidend by Atheist-Channel generally being smaller than Theist-channel. So i think we should all self-reflect and ask us if Atheists shouldnt recommend-each-other more often stuff.

@bobbyglover5893

2 жыл бұрын

@@slevinchannel7589 I am not an atheist. I self-describe as an agnostic panendeist. That said, I believe in an honest pursuit of truth and try to remain as open minded as possible. I also believe we get closer to truth by eliminating that which does not belong. Truth has nothing to fear from investigation.

Really fascinating video, I've always wondered this and its nice to have it explained and laid out so clearly!

@soniatwortowen9494

2 жыл бұрын

Christ was born 6th of April, see above

Wonderful info., I've know this for years but this is the first time I see charts giving an explanation of it, thank you 👍👍🎄🎄🎄, and Merry Christmas

He was born at the time of the year that the sacrificial lambs were born in Bethlehem. The parallels are mind blowing.

@milliesecond102

Жыл бұрын

During the Holy fall feasts - He "tabernacled" with us!❤️🙏❤️

@israelisthechosen

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@ndjibukabengele973

Жыл бұрын

The Lamb of God.

@Chris_Sheridan

Жыл бұрын

.. you have no scriptural evidence that supports your claim.

@ounkwon6442

Жыл бұрын

Lambs were killed for Passover meal. Lambs were not for offering as sacrificial animals.

Awesome video, I like that you took the time to explain the historical detail while still respecting the religious ones

Funny thing is, 1AD would be roughly the mean average between the two different dates given by the Gospels. So you could argue that it's a good compromise between the two discrepancies.

@fyanle1382

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thought

@ashenwolf98

2 жыл бұрын

That is a good compromise, although to be honest I would be more inclined to believe the book of Matthew over the book of Luke, since Matthew himself lived during Jesus’s time while Luke lived well after the fact.

@mugikuyu9403

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashenwolf98 What evidence is there that Matthew loved during Jesus’ time?

@RannonSi

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashenwolf98 As far as I know the gospels are anonymous snd the naming is just church tradition so we don't know if the author (or authors of) of Matthew (or the others) were ever even close to have met Jesus.

@labrynianrebel

2 жыл бұрын

Well the Anno Domini dating system was made by Dionysius the Humble, a 6th century monk. So you have to realize the Gospels and (maybe) a general idea of Roman history is all he had to go off of. I say he got pretty darn close in his guesstimate.

U r some right. I enjoy listing at u u have taught me a lot wow keep up the good work

Quirinius was governor a Syria at an earlier point. The governorship in 6 CE was his second. This information can be found in Strabo and the works of Ramsey. It's a fascinating study and well worth the time and effort.

@paulfell4962

Жыл бұрын

No he wasn't, this is lazy nonsense by Christian apologists. He was fighting a war between 11-3 BC. They have to try to con people with rhis because otherwise Luke is talking nonsense. Luke gets the date of the Census right, 6CE.

@johnmillett2831

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfell4962 Strabo was a Christian apologist? Emil Schurer, a Jew, was a Christian apologist? Suetonius was a Christian apologist? Ramsey, the archeologist, was a Christian apologist? Ramsey, the one who dug up entire cities, I would hardly call him lazy. The true lazy ones are those who read Luke and Matthew and conclude they are at odds and don't do any further study.

@paulfell4962

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmillett2831 And the true buffoons are those who believe in a previous governorship when it didn't happen. Thew guy who put this piece together didn't mention a previous governorship, that's because it didn't happen.

@johnmillett2831

Жыл бұрын

@@paulfell4962 I follow the evidence. If you feel smarter for not doing so, that is your choice.

@paulfell4962

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmillett2831 Your problem is you'retryimg to look atthis book as a history book, it isn't. He wasn't Governor twice & Christian apologists have tried to use Luke meant "Protector" not Governor. Just admit it, the Gospels are contradictory nonsense of a supernatural legend & anyone one believes this "story" without evidence is embarrassing themselves.

I always thought there was a clue in the story of Jesus' family returning for the passover when he was 12 years old. When they finally find him after searching for three days, he explains how he must be about his father's business, as if his parents should have plainly realized this. "Know ye not that I must be about my father's business?" Therefore, I posit that he was indeed born during the passover (the paschal lamb) and had a birthday while they were there, making him 13, or the age at which Jewish tradition holds that a boy has become a man. From this story we also see that it was sort of common for families to travel to their home town for the passover, which might have been why Augustus chose that time to take the census. It was convenient. If this is true, Christ also would have died just about the time of his birthday, the sacrificial lamb, born during the passover and sacrificed during the pass over. Possibly, the day he rose from the dead was his actual birthday. So that would be pretty cool.

@leonardshevlin7260

2 жыл бұрын

There never was a census that required anyone to travel to some ancestral home. The idea is ludicrous.

@assievanderwesthuizen6314

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 100%!!!

@assievanderwesthuizen6314

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardshevlin7260 Sir, with all due respect: You don't know what you're talking about.

@leonardshevlin7260

2 жыл бұрын

@@assievanderwesthuizen6314 There's never been a census requiring people to go to an ancestral home. The myths of the origins of Yeshua are absurd. People enjoy believing nonsense and the more ridiculous the better. A global flood! Animals on a ship together! A magic beanstalk! Surviving being swallowed by a whale! A talking serpent!

@leonardshevlin7260

2 жыл бұрын

What you should think about is that nobody bothered to record anything about what this child prodigy did for the following eighteen years before he started his career as an apocalyptic cult leader.

I went in here knowing historical contexts from various other videos stating the same dates and events mentioned also in this video. I'm glad you simplified everything. Although it was inconclusive, it sort of clarified when the possible date and time of year it may have happened. It's not out of curiosity, the algorithm led me far into a rabbit hole of related videos and I just wanted to see where it went.

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

I talked with some Atheists online and we came to an interesting Result: Atheists dont have this 'inherent desire to spread their word', which of course is UNDERSTANDABLE buuut it also has negative side-effects, evidend by Atheist-Channel generally being smaller than Theist-channel. So i think we should all self-reflect and ask us if Atheists shouldnt recommend-each-other more often stuff. So i offer here and now some promised-to-be-good Atheist-KZreadr, and on that note, also Science-Channel.

Good video to kickstart Christmas with.

Good video. But you missed a critical part of the puzzle on His birth. The priestly order Zechariah belongs to, actually matters because his order only served in the Temple in Feb, Mar, Apr, Aug, Sep, and Oct. This matters because he impregnated Elizabeth right after his service in the temple. Add to that, Elizabeth was six months pregnant by the time Mary came to visit, it becomes easier to lock down 6 possible months during the year. Also, the sheep argument is not irrelevant. How they bred their flocks is a tradition followed to this day. In Bethlehem, they introduce rams to the ewes at a certain time of year, so that they birth between November and March. That matters. Add to that, the shepherds only stayed out at night during that season in order to ensure the lambs were dried off properly during the cold nights. After March, they do not stay out.

@Yeshua_is_YHWH

Жыл бұрын

Hello my brother - would you kindly let me have your email so I could get in touch with you, or a twitter/skype account? You've made some excellent points and if you could spare me a little time, I'd like to learn.

@suaptoest

Жыл бұрын

The lamb that was sacrificed at Easter was traditionally brought from Bethlehem.

Professionally done, excellent work!

Matt, I love your sheep characters. I love Serta's sheep and love seeing them other places. Merry Christmas and/or Happy Hanukkah to you and your family.

@jeremypnet

2 жыл бұрын

The pictures are actually from Shaun the Sheep. Shaun the Sheep first appeared in the Wallace and Grommit film “A Close Shave”.

I recently watched a well researched historical documentary by BBC regarding the nativity star. The historical date of the appearance of the nativity star according to the scholars is very interesting. The historical records and evidences from antiquity the scholars provided was very convincing similar to this video.

amen kotobian tadau Krismas / merry Christmas 2022 & happy new year 2023, love from Sabah (Borneo), Malaysia.

Excellent video as always! Merry Christmass to every one!

The service of Zechariah is a good place to start. His tour of duty in the Temple and the announcement of the conception of his son John gives us a very good estimation of when John the Baptizer was born. Zechariah was relieved of duty by the end of June which means he was home and impregnating his wife by July. Therefore John would have been born in the spring. He was six months older than his cousin Jesus which laces the birth of Jesus in the fall. The clue of the day is in the Gospel according to John when he states the Lord tabernacled among us. The feast of Tabernacles is the 15th of Tishri.

@PageMarker1

2 жыл бұрын

Other posters have made similar comments as yours which are far more credible than the video suggests. I'm surprised at his lack of deeper research into the matter from this perspective. Best wishes.

@1roanstephen

2 жыл бұрын

@@PageMarker1 The source is a scholarly paper that reviewed the entire birth narrative and the surrounding events. I found the part discussing the year in the video informative but the discussion of the actual day seemed to cater to modern scholars and not the people who actually witnessed the evernts and left written and oral accounts. Modern scholars discount thise sources. What is amazing is that I know people who are descendants of the family group that Jesus was born into.

@cpk2GIRL

2 жыл бұрын

@@1roanstephen - Are you able to elaborate on your last sentence? Fascinating!

@1roanstephen

2 жыл бұрын

@@cpk2GIRL I know a family that is descended from Jesus' extended family. They keep their lineage in mind from generation to generation. Their ancestor was a second cousin to Jesus. They are Orthodox Christians, Hebrews by descent but today they are called Palestinians.

@Dluck7

Жыл бұрын

ZacharYa'oh (Zechariah) is a fictional character along with Alay-Shabai (Elizabeth) created by Luke and his fellow gospel writers. There is no mention, nor any records given, including by Josephus to substantiate the existence of this person. Conversely, according to the prophets and Ya'ohshai himself, Ya'ohkhanan the immerser (John the Baptist) was none other than the prophet Al-Ya'oh (Elijah) who did not see death until his head was severed by Herod Antipas. So the whole story of his birth, and kinship to Ya'ohshai was to legitimize Ya'ohshai (now called Iesous by the Herodian Edomite Pharisee Paul) as High Priest as well as Savior. The problem is, only one from the tribe of Loay (Levi) and specifically the sons of Ahran (Aaron) through Tsadok (Zadok) can be High Priest. That is why the Maccabees were illegitimate in their claims to the position. And according to YashaiYa'oh (Isaiah) 43:11, only YA'OH (YHWH) Himself is Savior. Ya'ohshai (Jesus) is the Mashaykh (Messiah), but that just means he was anointed to perform the specific task of gathering the flocks of Ya'ohsharal (Israel) and returning them back to the covenant and true worship of YA'OH. Shalom.

Thanks for this insightful analysis

I know the answer i asked Jesus this past Christmas in prayer, and like always, he answered me ❤❤❤

As someone living near Bethlehem, it's FREEZING in December. It's not European, but I suppose -3°C on an average night is not a great sleeping temperature.

@stephenwells1559

Жыл бұрын

Although the Roman warm period has the average temperature of the earth at that time as 1-2C warmer than today with some regions up to 4-6C warmer during winter.

@WatchOnYT

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenwells1559 3°C is still quite cold, if you ask me.

@ronaldshank7589

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was crucified in the Spring, and was 33 1/2 years old, when he was crucified. This would put his Birth in, quite possibly, Late September, possibly between the 25th-30th. There's a lot of difference and controversy concerning when he was born, and when he died, but one thing I'll say about the whole thing -I'm glad that, after 3 days and 3 nights, he arose from the dead, and came out of the Tomb, victorious over death, hell, and the grave! He is the possessor of the keys of death and hell, and he lives forevermore!

@JohnStark72

Жыл бұрын

@@ronaldshank7589 Possibly Yom Kippur.

@ronaldshank7589

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnStark72 Seems like that would work, too. He certainly wasn't born in December. There's no way that that could be right. If Jesus was 33 1/2 when he was Crucified, and had been born in December, then he wouldn't have been Crucified until mid to late June. The math on the December birth doesn't work. I'm sticking with possibly sometime in September, as the Month in which Jesus was born.

Pleasantly surprised by the evenhanded treatment of the subject matter. Also remarkable for comprehensive scope. Thanks! For as many people mindlessly parrot the nonexistence of Quirinius and the absence of a Roman census it’s gratifying to see that the established Roman history can be understood and correlated to the events in question by a relatively disinterested party examining the internal chronology of the source texts.

These are good quality videos, thank you. I'm a Catholic -practicing Catholic. I'll add some thoughts here. Our liturgy often reflects seasons...we place major feast at times of year that teach theological ideas. Good Friday/ Easter is in the spring is because that is when Jesus died and rose to life again. Spring is a time of re-birth and new life and new hope. All Souls Day is in November because the year is dying and the liturgy at that time reflects on our deaths and the end times. Similarly December 22-25 is the darkest time of year so when we place the liturgical celebration of the birth of Jesus there it is because it teaches us the a new light shone into humanity during our darkness and coldness of our hearts. So we don't get too hung up on exact dates....thought there were very early Christian writers who say he was born Dec. 25, notable one was St. Ephrem of Syria. Also there is an excellent documentary made by an amateur astronomer about the star of Bethlehem that makes a very convincing case Jesus was born in 2 BC in about May and the Magi arrived on...Dec. 25, making that the first 'Christmas' when gifts were given to the child. Very compelling evidence put forward about the events we know happened in the sky at that time, I'd encourage everyone to find and watch his video.

Matt, you're a legend.

In Hebrew Sunday school we always talked about history. I always thought they were saying "before the common error." It wasn't until my late 20s that I learned it was "era" not "error."

@user-si7ig6ul7l

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@alexwilliamns

2 жыл бұрын

Similarly, I thought “Dawn’s early light” in the USA’s anthem was “dawnzerly light” and dawnzerly was like an orange-y colour 😂

@shelbyohanian5942

2 жыл бұрын

Before Christ, Anno Domini (which means year of our Lord)

@dulmater

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexwilliamns lol I thought the same thing until I was 17

@adrianblake8876

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexwilliamns Make it mean so! Tell everyone that you like your OJ a very donserly color, or something like that....

This is sooo interesting!! Love this channel!!

may i ask a copy for these chart please i love it.

Very informative. ...new subscriber here!

Luke 3:23 says Jesus was "about 30 years of age" when he began his ministry, and John mentions Jesus attending at least three yearly Passover feasts, meaning that Jesus' ministry lasted about three years and that he was about 33-years-old when he died. If Jesus was born during 6 CE (implied by Luke), that means Jesus died during 39 CE, three years after the governorship of Pontius Pilate ended. If Jesus was born between 6 and 4 BCE (implied by Matthew), that means Jesus died between 27 and 29 CE, which fits into Pontius Pilate's governorship. However, Luke 3:1-3 says John the Baptist's ministry started "in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar", which would be 29 CE. Jesus didn't start his ministry until after John the Baptist started his, so this would mean that Jesus began his ministry and died in the same year (29 CE) if we're going by Matthew's birth narrative. This would also mean that Jesus was about 33 when his ministry began and that his ministry lasted less than a year, contradicting the length of time that Jesus' ministry lasted in John's gospel. If we just look at Luke's narrative and ignore every other gospel, then Jesus was born in 6 CE, John the Baptist started his ministry in 29 CE, and Jesus started his own ministry seven years later in 36 CE when he was about 30. 36 CE was also the last year Pontius Pilate was governor, so again this leaves no wiggle room for Jesus' ministry to last longer than one year.

@BurnBird1

2 жыл бұрын

Alright, so what about the word "about" do you not understand? It's also worth noting that only Luke claims he was "about 30 years of age" meaning that you can only apply that logic to the Gospel of Luke and not to any of the other gospels, since they have their own chronology.

@yassine073t

2 жыл бұрын

Then again the authors of the bible can’t even agree on basic theology

@CalumCarlyle

2 жыл бұрын

@@BurnBird1 and yet according to christians: A) the four canonical gospels are all totally infallible B) the four canonical gospels all agree with each other, ie there are no discrepancies across the gospels. The gospels are either hard fact, as christians claim, meaning they can all be reconciled, or else they are fictional, and made up many years after any germ of a fact, as evidence suggests. GLuke even admits this outright in the introduction if you read it (though creative translation sometimes has GLuke claiming to be a witness to the events described, this is not possible, due to the fact of it being written in AD80 at the earliest. A more proper translation of the Greek would be "the things we believe" rather than "the things we witnessed". It's surprising how much of this stuff is right there in the bible, covered up by creative translation efforts).

@BurnBird1

2 жыл бұрын

@@CalumCarlyle No, you can't just make up two extremes like that. The gospel accounts don't have to be either "hard fact" or else "fictional" There's middle ground there, as well as different parts of the gospels falling on different levels on the spectrum. The birth narratives for example, considering how ahistorical they are and that both authors don't agree and have theological reasoning behind how they construct them, can therefore be concluded to be almost entirely fictional. Other parts of the gospels however, such as the fact that Jesus was crucified, is agreed upon by all the gospels, as well as extra-biblical sources, so we can therefore assume with some certainty that it probably did happen. The gospels are *very* biased documents, but just because they are biased doesn't mean that we can't gleam some truths from it, especially when we contrast it with less biased sources.

@bandie9101

2 жыл бұрын

@@yassine073t years and exact dates do not contribute to the theology at all.

Very interesting and enjoyable presentation. I have tried to piece this together myself and it was above my abilities and knowledge. This was an excellent review of the known and unknown details.

@tehhermitsheep8711

Жыл бұрын

no, the entire world is the same, even the churches of it and the person who made this video too. They no more understand John 4 about spirt and truth than they do the great prophet Jeremiah in chapter 16 and his revelation of the “inherited lies of the gentiles”. It’s really this simple; spiritual discernment is not derived from the intellect of a fleshly mind. If it was that then all the worldly wise men would know and perceive it, including the evil and unrighteous ones. No, It is solely a gift and revelation from God to those who sought and found him with a sincerely true and open heart. After all, He knows the heart, He tries the reigns. Or perhaps people forgot that His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, and His ways are higher than our ways? As scripture does reveal, “they hear the world and they know the world, and the world knows them, but we are of the Spirit, they neither hear nor know us”. You see, until the return of our Lord with his Kingdom, this world is satan’s kingdom and all the fleshly activities from the hands of sin; which every person possesses, is of it and serve his will and purpose. It’s why we have no works to boast of, no matter how well the intention. So much is still without understanding. Is it your desire to know when the Lord was born? Start in John: 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:14 … and the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. Though depending on which translation you’re reading it may not be the same words; the subtlety of satan’s deceit. At least this video does expose one of the many cultural deceits regarding the wise men at the nativity. I often wonder if people understand that it’s approx. 80 miles from Galilee to Bethlehem and there were no cars, airplanes, or buses. Does it really make sense that a man walking and leading a donkey carrying a woman right at the end of her trimester period would take such a journey through the mountains in winter? No it doesn’t make any more sense than being blind of that which is right before your face and deaf of that which is sounding in your very ear. How does that happen? Yet none question it, they readily go along with the cultural doctrine of men just as they were told and taught. Certainly not doing as they were commanded; to take heed that no man deceive them. Yet understand all are deceived, which is why we’re commanded to come out from the land of Babylon. Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense for such a trip to occur after the final fruits of the harvest are gathered and put away in the barn with the time to rest afterward as was the practice in an agrarian society? Do you know and understand the law and the feasts of the Lord? Probably not, because again the doctrine of men would have you believe that such things were nailed to the cross and done away with. Yet what did He say, “I came not to destroy, but to fulfill; the law and the prophets”. And in another place, “the law, the prophets, and the psalms”. Yet the ear of today is just as deaf to the prophet now as it was back then. So ask yourself then; because most people likely never have despite reading the words over and over again, when does the Word, or anything for that matter, become flesh? As per Rev 19; “and His name is called; The Word of God.” Under the law, do you know what the 15th day of the 7th month is? Because it’s in scripture over and over again. It might be considered to make an effort to both know and understand each and every reference. Just as many other such situations that are just as covered up and hidden. And under the law, what comes on the 8th day after the birth of a male child and it becoming flesh? Is it not the circumcision? Who among us has the eye to see and the ear to hear? And if you can discern when that day occurred, then count back 9 months (273 days) and where does it land? Because that’s what was celebrated originally; the overshadowing by the Lord. But you can thank the doctrine of men and their hands of sin works from ~1700 years ago for covering these things up. Yet Paul himself said, it was already at work long before then. It all hinges on this: Matthew 27:50-52; who were they, where did they come from, and where did they go? I would suggest that it was the greatest conspiracy to deny the truth that has ever occurred on this world. Let the words that follow below as found in scripture be a sign unto you: 1. Why did Paul lament over his day and night teachings for three years? 2. Why did Jesus say, “and then I will profess to them; I never knew you, depart from me, ye who work iniquity”? 3. Who is mystery Babylon, as spoken of in Revelation? What if I told you that it’s not those who are neither evil in the flesh nor without God in the flesh who are walking through the wide gate on the broad path merrily to their own destruction? As Psalm 1 states, “the ungodly shall not stand in the judgement, nor the sinners among the congregation of the righteous”. The reality is this, “afflicted is the gate and narrow the way, which leads to life, and few there be who find it”. Could it possibly be fewer than the doctrine of men might deceive you into believing? Take ye heed brothers and sisters, take ye heed. .. for I am thy fellow servant and of the brethren that do possess the testimony of Jesus, worship and praise God, for this is the testimony of Jesus; the Spirit, the Prophesy. Let those gifted with the ear, hear … .

@ObjectiveEthics

11 ай бұрын

​@@tehhermitsheep8711 It is refreshing to see a Christian actually admit that there is no logic to their religion and that their religion is completely reliant on personal beliefs (or what can be referred to as the individuals faith).

@bible1st

4 ай бұрын

​@@ObjectiveEthicsWhat does the Bible say? Within this verse is your answer. Judas (not iscoriot) said Lord how is it that you will manifest yourself to us and not to the world?

@ObjectiveEthics

4 ай бұрын

@@bible1st Congratulations. Don't worry about the fact that the Bible is just political propaganda created to control the weak minded fool.

I have to mention that 14 years before the 6CE date there WAS an Empire-wide census and the governor of Syria took personal charge and left a regent governor in charge of the land. The census did extend into Judea and the governor oversaw that region too. The regent governor left in charge? Quirinius. That first registry was the first in what we call the Roman Empire, and Quirinius WAS governor during that first one.

This is perhaps the clearest and most concise explanation of the differences between the various biblical texts, placed in the context of known historical events. Thank you channel

@koderamerikaner5147

8 күн бұрын

Testify made a video response to this. It's quite likely that Luke was affirming Matthew's claim. Also, it's plausible that Quirinus was governor of Syria twice, and also historian Josephus has been debated as possibly wrongly attributing the time of the governorship. (I recommend you watch his video for a good understanding.)

@BibleJourney-pq6gk

8 күн бұрын

@@koderamerikaner5147 I am truly grateful for your sharing. On my journey to find the Bible, I am honored to have you join me on that path.

This was a great video, very informative and easy to understand

Thank you for producing this informative video.

Only the creater knows The second coming that's why only he knows his birth.

Wonderful and sincere analysis about the historical facts and events surrounding our Lord Jesus Christ's birth date and year of birth. Thank you for your efforts. May God bless you.👏👍

@lutkedog1

Жыл бұрын

There is zero historical facts is was all written down later.

@bruceolga3644

Жыл бұрын

They are not accurate...ewe huemans should be aware that it is a needle in the proverbial mattress... the leaders changed dates multiple times throughout history... adding and subtracting days & months... Jan-Feb are infants to the calendar.....

@K1lostream

Жыл бұрын

There might have been a carpenter called Jesus but he was certainly amoral, probably mentally ill and definitely not the son of a magic sky fairy. Oh fun fact, being born in that place at that time, your lord will have been a person of colour - I mention it only because he is never portrayed that way.

At first I have to say that I love every single video on this channel. My only problem with your work is that I can’t find the sources of your videos. Maybe this is something only germans do (I am german an watch also a lot german history content on this platform), but I love to look at the sources. This gives me the chance to dive deeper into history and to work with the knowledge. It also solidifies your statements.

@legisnuntius

Жыл бұрын

There are dozens of books written about the historicity of Jesus. You can just pick one up from your library. The New Testament has multiple references to historical events and persons. What you are looking for are the stone inscriptions and Roman records that reference the same events and people. Historians take the pagan sources and their dates and compare them to the New Testament, which gives a range of dates for the references in the New Testament. Pontius Pilate, for instance, had numerous references in both inscriptions and records. So, the New Testament account of the execution of Jesus during his governorship means that it would have to have happened during the years he was governor according to these independent records. The same is true for references to king Herod at the birth or young age of Jesus, and the Roman census of Judea. There are independent records of the dates of Herod's reign and when the Judean census was conducted.

@benniseiz3179

Жыл бұрын

@@legisnuntius Thank you very much for the information. But to be honest, my question was not only directed at this video, but all videos on the channel. I am used to the sources being linked or at least mentioned in the description so that everyone can understand where the creators got their information from.

@MurderMostFowl

Жыл бұрын

@@benniseiz3179 I agree. I wish he quoted his sources.

@nathanmunro-donohue4330

Жыл бұрын

I also love to see sources listed but honestly I never check them. Haha😅

@pameladowns8425

Жыл бұрын

Always check everything you hear or read....never take what you hear as being fact. One thing I learnt as I started my journey with the Lord and I have found it the best advice I ever received. There are too many opinions out there with no scriptures to back them up Shalom

So, in about 1980 or so I saw a presentation at our local planetarium that talked among other things about the birth of Jesus. They theorized that the Maji would have been reacting to an astronomical portent. The idea in this case was that one or more scientists had run a simulation of the motions of the solar system and found a conjunction of three planets which occurred in the spring of 6 BC. This is something the Maji, who were also the royal astronomers among other things, would have taken as extremely significant. The planetarium had one of 12 sophisticated Ziess sky projectors in the US that worked with complicated gearing to project the actual night sky with a high level of accuracy. They ran the planetary motion part of their projector back to 6 BC and sure enough there was the same conjunction. The theory was that this significant astronomical event might have convinced the Wise Men that something was up in the spring of 6 BC and that this planetary conjunction was the “star” they had followed.

@darthhauler9947

2 жыл бұрын

That had been the story I heard as well.

@marcmckenzie5110

2 жыл бұрын

Brad, now that you mention this, I too recall seeing this at the planetarium in the Denver Museum of Nature & Science in the early to mid 1980’s. Although viewed as less scientific, it would be interesting to see what a good vedic astrologer would say if they calculated charts to the same period. The other interesting thing is who where the Maji? Did they come via the Silk Road? Where they from India, Persia, China, Mongolia, etc? The more more we know about history, yet more that knowledge unfolds - it’s really marvelous, isn’t it?

@blackswanmtg

2 жыл бұрын

But as Matt says in the video, I don't think the verse specifically says that the magi were there for the birth. They just came to visit some unspecified time after.

@marcmckenzie5110

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackswanmtg I was musing in that context.

@Youchubeswindon

2 жыл бұрын

The issue with this, is using the same knowledge of stars we have now, a visible pulsar was known to have existed around 4bce, so whilst interesting, neither force the answer to be settled.

I never believed Jesus was actually born on Dec 25. I thought it was a metaphor. Jesus represented the Light. Winter Solstice represents the last dark day before we enter into the light again. From the dark into the light. I also think the alignment we had in the sky 12/21/20 was similar to what the Magi saw. A conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn. Fascinating video of history.

we have a 'time of year' reference that gets overlooked. The Zechariah served under the course of abijah. We know when those priests served and when taken into consideration and using the understood 9mo gestation of two babies that apparently overlapped by 6 months that Jesus was VERY LIKELY born at the beginning of the Feast of Tabernacles Mid Sept/Early October. This coincides with the shepherds in the fields and the manger, which is always explained away as a structure outside the inn where there was no room, could simply be a sukkah.

Excellent video, I loved the historical and chronological analysis. And the attempt to reconcile them with the biblical accounts in Matthew and Luke. Though much of it shrouded in mystery. I also liked your subtle sense of humor

Your animations are awesome. I hope one day I could make those.

Jonathan Cahn gave an excellent biblical explanation as to the exact time that Jesus was born and that day and year was on the Hebrew calendar of Nisan 1. Converted to our modern calendar is it on the 20th March 6BC. Pretty similar to what was explained here.

You forgot the astronomy records about Jupiter and another planet lining up close to each other and making a bright star in the night. There is an exact record for that also happening at that time.

Thank you as always for the great information clearly presented.

@slevinchannel7589

2 жыл бұрын

I talked with some Atheists online and we came to an interesting Result: Atheists dont have this 'inherent desire to spread their word', which of course is UNDERSTANDABLE buuut it also has negative side-effects, evidend by Atheist-Channel generally being smaller than Theist-channel. So i think we should all self-reflect and ask us if Atheists shouldnt recommend-each-other more often stuff. SHouldnt we?

I was born and raised in Israel, I can confirm that winters in that area are mild, though beit lechem is quite high, so can get very cold at times, but also very hot, but it's more comfortable than summer where it's always way too hot

@nunyabidness5375

2 жыл бұрын

But sheep are out of the fields by September at the latest.

@LillyP-xs5qe

2 жыл бұрын

@@thoththeegyptian4445 it is in the same area, weather don't care for human borders

@LillyP-xs5qe

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabidness5375 the fields only start to properly grow in September, Israeli winters are the time of year when everything comes back to life, animals go to hibernation through the summer there, cause it's so hot and dry

@arikenda

2 жыл бұрын

Israel??.. you mean Palestine?

@LillyP-xs5qe

2 жыл бұрын

@@arikenda let me check all the official papers and such.... Definitely Israel.

Early morning of August 12, 3 BC, is my guess, based on astronomy. Jesus was referred to as the morning star in two places in the New Testament. Herod the Great died between 4 to 1 BC. According to the New Testament, Herod felt threatened by Jesus' birth and by the wise men coming to witness Jesus' birth. Venus and Jupiter were conjunct morning of Aug 12, 3 BC, looking like the "new star" that the wise men described over Bethlehem. This makes Jesus a Leo, which is considered a leader sign. Also Jesus, kings, and God have all been referred to as lions, which is the Leo symbol. Happy 2026 New Year. However, for those who like the idea that it must have been during Spring, because of shepherds activities, there was the same conjunction of planets the evening of June 17, 2 BC. Making Jesus a Gemini. So take your pick.

Consider not only the sheep, consider also the census during that time (Luk.2:2). No one in the right sense will do this in winter. Also you can estimate the Birth Month of Lord Jesus Christ, by computing the time when he was born, by considering the birth also of John the Baptist, and when Zechariah father of John the Baptist when he Zechariah was serving at temple (Luk.1:22-24). You can count the month when was Lord Jesus Christ was born.

Nice logic. It kinda reminds me of being in geometry class in high school and using Euclidean logic to solve problems. Geometry was absolutely my favorite class! Nice job!!

Thanks so much for a very interesting presentation! it's good to know more facts than I heard before. The important thing is our Christmas and that it is celebrated by most Christians. I love the season!

@davidestrich7055

2 жыл бұрын

I celebrate x-mass with lights on my house, not the birth of Christ.

@haruyoshida2338

Жыл бұрын

Io Saturnalia! Dies Natalis Solis Invicti!

The census was for the 15th Jubilee of the founding of Rome at April 21, 753 BC. They timed it for the feast of tabernacles where each tribe goes back to their ancestral home

Great work on the chronology. After doing a couple years (on and off) of my own research, I came to a similar conclusion. I AM curious however, what you think about the Pope Julius the 1st (along with John Chrysostom) appropriating the Roman Pagan traditions surrounding Winter Solstice (more particularly Natalis Solis Invicti; "Birth of the invincible sun), by likening the title of their celebration to Jesus the invincible Son (as a summary) in order to convert/trick Pagans into accepting Christianity; ultimately calling it Christmas, the birthday of Jesus?

What a great piece! After strong evidences, all of which ended with "no one really knows". I am a Catholic, by the way. Of course, I observe Christmas. But, it is also great to notice Jewish and Muslim holidays because they occur during important dates on how the sun and moon move.

@moisesfrias1117

2 жыл бұрын

their calendar is Lunisolar...Jesus died in the first full moon of the Spring...that day is Passover Nisan 14, that info is in the bible.

@rodienp.feranco2249

2 жыл бұрын

@@moisesfrias1117 , yeah. So that, Holy Week is movable using Gregorian Calendar.

@maganhassan2627

2 жыл бұрын

How does Muslim holidays correspond to when sun or moon moves?

@rodienp.feranco2249

2 жыл бұрын

@@maganhassan2627 , as an example, during the month of Ramadan, Muslims are obliged to go on fasting from the sunrise, will remain the whole day, and will end at sunset. The start of each month in Muslim Calendar is always begin, literally, during the first sightings of the tiny uncovered part of the moon, immediately after the "New Moon" phase.

@catmunkyafzainizam5137

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodienp.feranco2249 u are right bro.

So glad a new bible/religion came out, it's the most interesting series you've made, you always put so much effort in providing us with correct cultural content

@Nwmguy

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Useful Charts, Religion for Breakfast and Sam Aronow are answering all the questions I had as a kid reading the Bible.

@drgeorgek

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nwmguy the holy trinity

@jakeaurod

2 жыл бұрын

@@drgeorgek But which one is Celery, Green Pepper, and Onion?

@redbitch3362

2 жыл бұрын

@@drgeorgek holy Trinity is false, it's from catholic

@drgeorgek

2 жыл бұрын

@@redbitch3362 yeah I know. It's called a joke.

Great video thank you.

I think that after three and half years in Egypt, he came back to Nazareth as a child aged two years and nine months old. As a mother, I'm thinking it may have been something Mary might have done. Works with something traumatic that happened when he was 12, and also works with why his own home town folks tried to run him out of town after reading, or reciting Isa;61.

I really like your videos because they are very informative and respectful to the beliefs of the individual. Keep up the great work, it's well appreciated and entertaining.

Considering the the Gospel of Luke was written in a time when the old people of the time would still remember the census, is it really reasonable to accept that he would've gotten such an important detail wrong? Aren't we committing the fallacy of "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? Perhaps there was an earlier censes under Herod, and since the census was taken when Judea was an independent kingdom, it was not as controversial as the later census that was done for tax purposes? According to the gospel of Luke, there doesn't seem to be any controversy surrounding this census and people seems to have been very compliant, making it much less controversial and historically noteworthy than the later census? Also, perhaps the reason why Joseph and Mary went down to Bethlehem is because he actually came from that town? He was visiting his fiancé, and when the news came, they moved down to Bethlehem because they assumed they would live there after the marriage. However, with the change of the political tides in Judea, he might have chosen to move the Galilee instead and raise the child in the town of his mother instead? Many details in the New Testament that secular historians simply threw away and scoffed at was later proven accurate with new archeological discoveries. Since Luke lived a lot closer to the actual events than the secular historians of today, perhaps a more cautious answer of: "we don't have enough data" is a more prudent course of action than to just assume a historical error in the text?

@varana

2 жыл бұрын

For many cultures around the world, esp. at a time when 1/3 to 1/2 of all children died in their infant years, the actual date of birth was _not_ important. And in many cases, not even the exact year. Sure, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But as far as we know, Quirinius became governor of Syria in 6 CE, 10 years after Herod's death. Just postulating a different census under Herod, in direct contradiction to Luke's words, isn't good scholarship either. If we acknowledge that Luke got something wrong, assuming he mixed up the two Herods and thought the census had taken place after the death of Herod the Great, instead of Herod Archelaus, is quite a bit more likely. (Also, _no_ census was popular in Judaea, regardless of reason.) According to Luke, Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem because of the census (which is a dubious assertion in itself). We can think of a lot of other reasons why someone would travel that way, but that's not what the source says. If we disregard the source, we're basically left with no other clue, so "we don't know" is the honest answer, yes. But that answer already assumes an error in the text.

@Hannodb1961

2 жыл бұрын

@@varana I have done some more reading on the matter. One article is making the important distinction that Luke is not saying he was _governor_ in Syria, rather that he was _governing_ in Syria. It is also known that he was conducting military action against the Homonadensians in Syria between 12BC and 2AD, so it is safe to say that he was holding some kind of high office before becoming governor in 6 AD. We know the previous governor, Lucius Volusius Saturninus, only goverend for two years, so perhaps Luke opted to mention the more recognisable name instead. One theory, though quite speculative, hold that he might have been governor of Syria twice. The precedent for this theory is a tumbstone refering to a person being governor twice in Syria, but it is very fragmentory. Also, the claim that Joseph traveled to Bethlehem for the sensus doea not seem to be that dubious after all: Early in the twentieth century, a papyrus was discovered which contained an edict by G. Vibius Maximus, the Roman governor of Egypt, stating: Since the enrollment by households is approaching, it is necessary to command all who for any reason are out of their own district to return to their own home, in order to perform the usual business of the taxation. (Cobern, C.M. 1929. The New Archeological Discoveries and their Bearing upon the New Testament. New York and London: Funk & Wagnalls, p. 47; Unger, M.F. 1962. Archaeology and the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, p. 64).

@varana

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hannodb1961 But mentioning the more memorable name is the issue. To a reader familiar with Jewish history, "the census when Quirinius was governing Syria" points to a very specific and famous date: 6 CE (or shortly after), the census after the death of Herod Archelaus, which led to a substantial revolt with long-lasting effects in Judaea. And assuming that Luke mentions a person who was not governor of Syria as governing Syria seems already a contradiction to me. Quirinius held some form of office (either directly governor of Galatia, or at least military command) in Asia Minor in 5-3 BCE, and he later was councilor to Augustus' son Gaius. That he held important offices during that time, is not in doubt. That papyrus refers to people having their home in town A but staying in town B at the moment, for whatever reason. It does not mean that people would have to go to the home city of some distant ancestor (which one?), like Joseph. Luke says that he had to go to Bethlehem because he descended from David. That's a fundamentally different thing.

@Hannodb1961

2 жыл бұрын

@@varana Not necesarilly. I'm not sure how much of the political details is known in Syria, but it is concievable that such details could explain why it would make more sense to mention the more well known person. For instance, about 10 years ago in my country, we had a political incident that lead to an interim president ruling for about 6 months. I bet most people have forgotten about that today, and in their mind, the next president succeeded the prior president directly. If people had to recall an event that took place during the rule of the interim president, they'd probably name the wrong president. Same with the soviet Union. I know there was two secratary generals between Breznev and Gorbachev, but since their rule was so short and inconsequential, I dont even bother to remember their names. Now, we know the previous governer only ruled for two years. Why? Was he just a temporary appointment? Did he not hold the real power? I dont know. But based on the experience of our country's recent history, it does make sense to me that there could've been reasons why Luke decided to name the more famous person rather than the actual governor of the time. Regarding Joseph, the Bible really doesnt give much information about him, but there is reason to believe that he actually grew up in Bethlehem, and that Mary lived in Nazareth. They probably met in Jerusalem during passover or some other feast. The reason why I say so is because in the Mathew account, we find Jesus in Bethlehem again, even though this took place 2 years after his birth. So clearly, Joseph must have had familial ties in Bethlehem. The exact details is uncertain, but the papirus from Egypt does give us little reason to doubt that Joseph had good reason to travel to Bethlehem for the census.

@sheaquintin1695

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hannodb1961 It seems that you are trying really hard to harmonize Mathew and Luke. Is it possible that the writers of Mathew and Luke are just mistaken?

In Daniel 9:20-27 is the 70-week prophecy. Vs 24: 70 weeks are determined for your people (70 weeks × 7 days a week = 490 days/years in Bible prophecy). Vs 25: know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem (457 BCE decree to rebuild Jerusalem found in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah). Until Messiah the Prince, there shall be 7 weeks and 62 weeks (69 weeks, 483 years the Messiah is annointed). From 457 BCE to 27 CE is 483 years. 27 CE Jesus was baptized and annointed by the Holy Spirit, and Jesus started His ministry. Vs 26: After the 62 weeks, Messiah shall be cut off but not for Himself, and vs 27: He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week (7 years) but in the middle of the week (3 1/2 years) He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. 31 CE Jesus was crucified, and the veil was torn from top to bottom, putting an end to sacrifice and offering (end of the first 3 1/2 years). Last 3 1/2 years end in 34 CE with the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7:54-60, which mirrors the death of Jesus in Luke 23:34-49. If God wanted us to know the exact birth of Jesus, I believe it would be in the Scriptures, but I do believe Jesus was born in 4 BCE and His first birthday was in 3 BCE and in 27 CE He was annointed which He would have been 30 years of age. I know that this is not in the Bible, but I enjoyed comparing Bible history with the history shared in this video.

Absolutely fascinating.

The problem with BCE and CE is that they are even less meaningful than the traditional BC/AD (despite the discrepancies). I mean what makes the common era "common"? How is that distinct from the time before it? Just my thoughts.

@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer

2 жыл бұрын

Sui generis because because that dating system is commonly used. You can compare it to moving away from defining the kilogram or meter by it's physical prototype towards aformula based on physical constants. Those units are and were in that sense always arbitrary. And if BC and AD are not what they describe to be it does make sense to face the fact that the dating system is arbitrary, like with SI-Units we find formulas with physical constants that mimic the definition of the previous standard of unit for convenience.

@modmaker7617

2 жыл бұрын

My problem with BCE/CE system is that the 2 acronyms are too similar to each other and they can be confused for each other. BC/AD are completely different and not confusable with the 2 acronyms. Also the common misconception is that BCE/CE is to remove Christianity from the calander even though the calender IS a Christian Calender. It's literally called the "Gregorian Calender". Which is named after Pope Gregory who modified the Julian Calender to fix the lip year problem.

@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer

2 жыл бұрын

@@modmaker7617 i got used to it pretty quickly. The only thing that throws me of occasionally is BC because my first inclination is to expect the following E 😅 That being said, i thought it is partially about religion. BC by itself would be fine, but with AD you principally force even non christians to call a figure Lord (Domini) even though it doesn't apply to them.

@comradecid

2 жыл бұрын

i'm still waiting for the scientific community to updating the naming of taxonomic ranking system of species / genus / family / order / class / phylum / etc.. if anything needs a nomenclature overhaul, it's that old headache-inducing system =_=

@uncinarynin

2 жыл бұрын

Just like Kelvin is the only sane temperature scale, the only sane date scale would start at big bang. But that would be even less practical than using Kelvin in everyday life, so all the world's calendar systems use an arbitrary zero. The Jews called it "creation of the world", the Christians "birth of Jesus". Anyway, absolute zero temperature is quite exactly known nowadays. Big bang is not, and besides the difficulties of handling unwieldy huge numbers, a calendar whose zero might be a few million years earlier or later isn't very practical.

Fascinating! I'm always eager to hear different analogies on the time of Christ's birth. I, myself, have a theory and I believe He was conceived in December and was born in September which is nine months. I believe the star was His coming to earth through conception and it took the Kings two years to travel to Judea from the East.

@pkmr5284

4 ай бұрын

Jesus was Born on 9/29. He was Conceived on 12/25. I have been shown great information about this.

@curtiscannon2726

4 ай бұрын

"I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me."J.S.-History Helaman 14 reads " And now it came to pass that Samuel, the Lamanite, did prophesy a great many more things which cannot be written. 2 And behold, he said unto them: Behold, I give unto you a sign; for five years more cometh, and behold, then cometh the Son of God to redeem all those who shall believe on his name. 3 And behold, this will I give unto you for a sign at the time of his coming; for behold, there shall be great lights in heaven, insomuch that in the night before he cometh there shall be no darkness, insomuch that it shall appear unto man as if it was day. 4 Therefore, there shall be one day and a night and a day, as if it were one day and there were no night; and this shall be unto you for a sign; for ye shall know of the rising of the sun and also of its setting; therefore they shall know of a surety that there shall be two days and a night; nevertheless the night shall not be darkened; and it shall be the night before he is born. 5 And behold, there shall a new star arise, such an one as ye never have beheld; and this also shall be a sign unto you. 6 And behold this is not all, there shall be many signs and wonders in heaven. 7 And it shall come to pass that ye shall all be amazed, and wonder, insomuch that ye shall fall to the earth. 8 And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall believe on the Son of God, the same shall have everlasting life..." I love thinking about new stars and pillars of light and great lights in the heavens in connections with the Savior's birth. A solar storm could cause "northern" lights anywhere. Aurora borealis would definitely count for great lights for someone who never saw them. I love talking about Him because He is the great light of the world!

@curtiscannon2726

4 ай бұрын

April 6

@CieMaKat

4 ай бұрын

​@@pkmr5284 I see one argument against this theory. Luke says that "all went to be enrolled, each to his own town". I doubt the enrollment would happen during sowing or harvesting periods as it would lead to lower crops = less food = starvation. The September-October is the time to harvest wheat... I'm personally more keen towards early summer (June?) when weather is good enough to do a long trip and the moment doesn't affect farmers' work.

Extraordinary video.

There is mention of the star of Bethlehem in the legends. A person I knew was in Bethlehem in the later days of December. She took pictures of her trip, not noticing until later that there was a large star in frame.

Hi Mat, thanks for a great video as always... I was wondering if you'll ever make charts about the Family and descendents of Confusius and Baha'u'llah, and perhaps one of the Baha'i Universal House of Justice? Think it would be great

Good video. You probably are aware there was an error in your calendar graphics. Your graphic said "Spring Solstice" while you were correctly saying "Spring Equinox." Not a big deal just letting you know.

Great historical work, and infographics, but I think you should have mentioned two aspects, from a diferent perspective: first, Einstein's theory of the 21st December 1BC, which makes a lot of sense, and second, from Maria Valtorta's work which also led to the same date. Of course, not from a historical point of view, but from an astronomical point of view (because we know that we had a full moon - or almost full moon, on Jesus Christ birthday). By the way, she puts the death of Herod in the spring of 0002, and Good Friday on April 21, 0034.

Great video Matt! You’ve probably been told this 1,000 times in the comments, but my only critique is that near the end, when you’re referencing the Spring Equinox in March, your calendar says “Spring Solstice.” Other than that, great, insightful and informative video!

Great history lesson and one which as a Roman Catholic I also have no difficulty appreciating. As we are still in the Christmas season and hopefully still not to late Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas. 🙋👪🤱

That was fun! Thank you for ...ah...clearing it all up! lol! Merry Christmas!

@crystal_wolf7040

2 жыл бұрын

Marry Christmas! 🎄🎁

awesome video nice one Merry Christmass

Titus 3:9-11 (the law, and even the past; for there are important things we ought to focus on: what took place, what was revealed, what we hear and must follow.) Which is Titus 3:1-8, 12-15 1 Timothy 1:4-6 (-7 included for overzealous, unspiritual minded, relying in knowledge and effort, of so-called preachers, pastors, priests, or prophets) Me: 1 Timothy 1:12-17 Amen.

Very nice explanation, I love how you always manage to make number-crunching an enlightening experience. The only thing that may have been of note was how the year 1 AD was originally decided upon. (The fact that you did do this with the date of Christmas begs the question even further.)

@kamion53

2 жыл бұрын

in the 6th century Dionyses Exiguus had the task to calculate a new scedule for Easter Dates and proposed to count the years no longer as Anno Martyrium ( from Dioclatius days) but from the birth of Christ as Anno Dominum .... he just missed a few years in his calculation. And he is forgiven, have you ever tried to make a calculation using Roman numbers only?

@kamion53

2 жыл бұрын

@Nehemiah Scudder could well be the case, the date of the destruction of the Temple was well documented in the Roman writting. I don't know the numerological meaning of the number 70 and Googling for it just gave me a fresh load of poppycock. I was thinking there could be a connection with the year of Yubilee every 49th year, but is more likely that was something in the 6th century that was not on Dionyses mind at all. Far too Jewish.

@kamion53

2 жыл бұрын

@Nehemiah Scudder makes even more sense and much more conveniant than calculating using Roman numbers Awell, Dionysius would have converted the date of the destruction.... Year 2 of the reign of Vespasian to a Anno Martyrium date and the Era of the Martyrs started 284 CE Ab Urbe Condatum was used by Livius but I don't know if it was used after him.