This channel reminds me of The Bible Project.

@markbowers4785

Жыл бұрын

The Bible Project's doctrine can be a little wonky... look it up. Also, this fella is more humble in his teachings. Good job as usual.

@dhelle2618

Жыл бұрын

@Mark Bowers how?

@wildin8156

3 ай бұрын

@@dhelle2618he’s not wrong. You have to read the Bible yourself to understand that the bible project does get things wrong because they’re simply summarizing but also sometimes not telling the story right. It’s the same way many believers only cite verses to prove a point but never speak about the story that lead to said verse. You have to study the word of God for yourself to understand it because alot of summary videos can be misleading at times. Like the Bible Projects Ecclesiates video? It’s Solomon thats writing that book, yet they make it seem like it’s a random teacher saying “life is meaningless”, when it’s simply Solomon saying all the wisdom he has gained from God? Has shown him the treasures of this life are all meaningless because after it’s all said & done? We will be infront of God with none of those things, so it is all meaningless. Which is why it is written to not love the things of the world.

@Johnny_3_Putt

Ай бұрын

@@markbowers4785except this fellow is a lot less educated and does not understand Hebrew. He just talked about Hell in the Old Testament. It’s a Greek construct. Hell is a New Testament conflation. He meant Sheol. It’s just the Jewish place of the dead. Words like grave, pit, and trash dump all get translated to Hell for some reason by translators. I don’t think anything in the Old Testament says fallen angels were cast into eternal fire.

The theory of the Nephilim being half demon fits when you think about the thousands of mythologies where gods mate with mortal women and produce powerful offspring. Genesis also says that Nephilim were 'men of old, men of renown.' Like Hercules, Gilgamesh, or Maui.

@sgusjsk

28 күн бұрын

It is true.

@quest2782

21 күн бұрын

but that's paganism not Christianity.

@kathykaura7219

21 күн бұрын

.... or history ... ​@@quest2782

@GreatTrollger

19 күн бұрын

@@quest2782 Pagan gods are demons (1 Corinthians 8:5-6)

@thehippyhippy4642

14 күн бұрын

​@@quest2782 Judeism and therefore christianity stem from the pagan Canaanite pantheon. The story shows yhwh as actually being quite a late arrival to the party.

4:36 that gave me the chills..

@ultraninja1151

3 ай бұрын

Real me too

@immaloveyouanyway

3 ай бұрын

ME TOO!!!!!

@irockline

3 ай бұрын

Same. I personally didn’t need that creepy visual 😂

@cscs9192

3 ай бұрын

A comon, It want that bad...it keeps youth in focus to keep watching..with is good🙂

@jesussaves267

Ай бұрын

@@ultraninja1151 Ikr😅

I think the Nephilim (amongst other peculiar humanoid races/creatures described in the Bible) are akin to the mythological heroes/gods/demigods of many mythologies. There are many similarities between the two, and even their origins of being the offsprings of demons/angels/gods and humans, having peculiar features and abilities that are unlike that of humans. It's pretty neat to think about how these mythologies evolved and developed in different cultures, but yet still have some many similarities, really proving that there is much more to these legends than just imagination of ancient people.

@bobbyhero123

Жыл бұрын

I've had similar ideas. Especially when you look at the epic of Gilgamesh. There's a lot of similarities.

@Creepyslandofdreams

Жыл бұрын

I think this is a very sound interpretation, In my opinion there are many things in the bible that stem from ancient myths. In a scholarly perspective, we are not perfect transcribers of gods word, people use it to sin even today, and why would humans be fit for understanding the full berth of gods word? It is very likely that many original stories have been changed or modified with the development of the religion, though (religiously) the stories that we can disprove with physical (or lack thereof) evidence, should still be taken as serious metaphor or allegory (though in the case of allegory we may not know what is being allegorized).

@redwarriorXYTYoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbyhero123 also Gilgamesh in sumerian they think is one of the annunaki and annunaki in sumerian text means those who comes down from heaven, and Gilgamesh was in the bible which is nimrod as they both share the samething as being great hunter and being a great builder, they also created cities and nimrod is known for the creation of the tower of babel and i think is what inspired the pyramid in egypt as they tried to oppose god.

@MinithWinith

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure these Giants were made when fallen angels came down in the form of a human and slept with humans.

@JouleAja

11 ай бұрын

Remember the openning statement in The Lord of the Rings film. "History became legend. Legend became myth." I think the world now twisting the truth of the history of mankind to look like a myth so that they move the truth of Bible away.

The presence of the Nephilim before and after the flood is often overlooked. It seems that if they were the offspring of fallen angels and humans then there would have had to be a first incursion (pre flood) and a second incursion (post flood) to account for their existence.

@williamforsythe5850

Жыл бұрын

God spared Noah because he was pure (imo meaning the last purely human blood because Noah was by no means perfect), but his children and their wives, and Noah's wife were brought as well. Meaning they may have had Nephilim bloodlines like the rest of humanity that later re-emerged after humanity repopulated. Genes can be tricky that way.

@stryker5573

Жыл бұрын

@@williamforsythe5850 This is probably the case. Genesis states that Noah was righteous, which is why he was selected to carry out God's purpose and build the Ark. However, the genes of the Anakim could have been present in his wife or his sons wives, which is likely why the sons of Anak are present in Canaan years after the flood. I've sometimes speculated that one of the reasons God instituted the flood, other than the fact almost every human on earth had rejected God, was that nature had been corrupted to the point it needed to be wiped out. If fallen angles were the actual nephilim and bred with humans at some point, it is also likely they were created other genetically modified abominations, like Minotaurs and other hybrid animals from many mythologies like Greek & Egyptian etc. Who knows what actually was happening pre-flood times. It could have been crazy, and if people were actually living 800-900 years things could have gotten absolutely nuts in soo many ways.

@spitflamez

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@spitflamez

Жыл бұрын

@@williamforsythe5850 Nephilim genes are in the male aka nuclear DNA, so it was another incursion post Flood, after Babel when the Nation were divided among the Sons of God.

@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99

3 ай бұрын

The flood wasn't global. It covered all the land of that region of mesopotamia. The Hebrew word for earth and land was the same; Eret.

If someone says, there was violence in the city, in those days, when the gangs the north came down to the those in the south ... it's pretty clear they are not saying that the violence preceded the clash of gangs, but that the violence is the result of the gangs clashing.

Great presentation brother, Melchizedek as well. The gems of scripture are revealed to those who ponder upon them

This is so cool glad I'm early before this channel blows out

Jude quotes from 1 Enoch, a fascinating second Temple work, not inspired scripture but a very popular read in Jesus's generation, they were manuscripts of Enoch found within the Dead Sea scrolls.

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

Enoch was cannon in those days it had not been removed yet.

Question… Doesn’t the Bible talk about the existence of giants/Nephilim AFTER THE FLOOD? If the evil in the world (as a result of) the Nephilim was the reason God brought the flood, why are they still around after the flood?

@DreSoul2049

Жыл бұрын

Because some of the Nephilim survived the flood...how? I personally don't know...but what followed was the descendants of the Nephilim..you also have the Rephaim... the question is, what happened to the spirits of the Nephelim who died in the flood...could they be the demons that roam around today?

@K5ORD

Жыл бұрын

@@DreSoul2049 This certainly is a mystery. I believe God Almighty achieved his purpose with the flood. All living creatures (human and animal) not on the ark were destroyed. Perhaps the spiritual realm plays into this? The Bible appears to be silent on that.

@elijahchesterthomas5334

Жыл бұрын

It is said that the blood of the nephilim was passed through one of Noah's wives.

@bryand7817

Жыл бұрын

Noah's nephew

@nathan45882

Жыл бұрын

@@elijahchesterthomas5334I believe that Noah’s son, Ham, had a wife that was part nephilim and that’s why he uncovered his father’s nakedness, ( slept with his mother, or tried to) because he found out his wife was part nephilim and that’s why Shem and Japheth had to walk backwards to cover up his “father’s nakedness”. Take this with a grain of salt though, because in all reality, we won’t know what happened until we’re in heaven.

A different interpretation I’ve come to lean towards: The Nephilim was a group name like Romans or Egyptians. Something we miss many times in wanting to interpret everything literal in the Bible is, like other speech, there are tons of metaphors that weren’t intended literally. Consider, Nephilim, a group that were “giants among men” (aka great warriors but I also think there was a great stature indicated. Sons of God in Job do appear to reference son heavenly council but it’s two books from two different times in cultural history. Phrases can mean different things depending on the literary and cultural context. There’s only two, maybe three references to this story. One is the Book of Enoch. This is where most of the ideas come from. It is an extra biblical book, not accepted as God’s Word, it’s like Pilgrims Progress. The NT writers do reference but I reference Pilgrims progress-great principles but not the Bible. Next reference, the 10 spies were awful eyewitnesses who were exaggerating the height. So you’re going to base the understanding of this passage off poor eyewitness testimony and extra-biblical source material, both are unreliable. The reference in Jude depends on how you put the punctuation (I don’t know enough Greek to research this) but the note to sexual misconduct may only be be a an added note about Sodom and Gomorrah. The primary note of fallen angels is they stepped out of their position of authority which is a reference to another event. So the interpretation of fallen angels having a race of giants through sex is based on bad testimony, non-biblical source material, and a questionable New Testament obscure verse. So conider, the Nephilim were “Sons of the gods” a title given to kings in ancient times, they were taking lots of wives, abusing people, etc. This answers a lot of problems with the other interpretation, like after the Great Flood you have giants again. Giants being abnormally-large humans. Note we still have giants (abnormally tall humans) today that if they were trained as warriors from birth like Goliath would be terrifying on the battlefield, especially when the average human height in ancient times was much shorter than today. There’s uncertainty in exactly how long a cubit was, depending on how you want to set a cubit Goliath was anywhere from 8’ to like 12-13’. Some people miss that some measurements of giants in the Bible if you want to go to extremes would make them 24’ tall. After a point there’s a limit in the physical laws God put in place in creation that limits how tall a person can get. If you want to accept that evil can miraculously create something that defies the physical laws God wove into creation…perhaps…but you’re arguing that demons and evil is more powerful than God. But, In the end, while this is a fun discussion, we have to keep in mind that it isn’t essential to faith or salvation. There isn’t enough information given and whatever you want to think you have to make some leaps of assumptions, not actual facts because we don’t have them. Too many times as Christians we get in this Us vs Them mindset of the Works of the Flesh and James’ Wisdom from Below, and insist my group is right without considering other viewpoints and not realize how much assumption and half truth we’re relying on. Reason why I love discussing this stuff but it isn’t essential. If the Bible says it I do believe it’s true and will be proven true but there’s some interpretations that aren’t clear exactly what was going on.

@princeamoakwa4057

3 ай бұрын

Profound look at the subject. So the spies may have used the Gen 6 Nephilim legend to describe the great size/stature or status of the people of the land. Perhaps an exaggeration out of fear, used in cautioning their fellows to abandon the capture of Canaan. I mean, the original Nephilim could just mean a group of tall and brutal people who bullied other tribes and nations with the advantage of their size and war experience. It is difficult to fathom how spirits can marry and father demigods via women. I can imagine God placing a baby in Mary's womb - He is almighty and creator - but is it not a stretch with spirits below him?

@marjhuncantago9476

3 ай бұрын

uhmmm Anak.... Annunaki? isn't that clicking?

@willcompany8229

3 ай бұрын

TLDR; not enough credible evidence to make any firm conclusion, and it's not essential to our faith, but a fun conversation.

Great stuff man

Love the presentation!

I believe that Genesis is simply referring to both of them , father and children when referring to the Nephilim. The term is referring to the Fallen Angels ( Nephilim) that were on earth on those days , and also after when the Sons of God ( Fallen Angels = Nephilim) took human women and had children (Nephilim) with them

@ursulageuther

5 ай бұрын

Makes perfectly sense

@YounghuiSeong

5 ай бұрын

good explanation never thought of it, thank you

Love the content! I’m a new subscriber, how do you do the animations?

@agussugiyanto1542

3 ай бұрын

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For a better revelation on who they are look for Tim Alberino, Tom Horn and Dr. Michael Lake, they cover this topic in-depth.

If you want to dig deeper I suggest you watch some of Tim Alberino, Gary Wayne, and LA Marzulies information about the subject.

Is the Nephilim's silhouette Juggernaut from X-Men lol? First thing I saw in my head when it came on screen.

@WNYXeb777

Жыл бұрын

Nay --- Sabe'

Many think the bigfoot are descendants that survived. You initial drawing is a drawing of bigfoot:) Also the reason they are kept in denial is because they have elevated physic type abilities which also aligns.

@CasshernSinz1613

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Goliath was suggested to also, potentially, be a sort of Nephilim due to his unique stature and strength even among the Philistines

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

Australopithecus has been found now to have only gone extinct 1500 years ago in the middle east, 60,k years ago in the Americas so Yetti yes, no Big Foot😞. HOWEVER! I saw the new Godzilla X Kong movie and the bad guy is Australopithecus! I thought hat was cool.

@marksgoogle4360

3 ай бұрын

@@anthonyb5279 You should go camp by yourself in a known hot spot;)

You should do a podcast feed with audio versions of these videos!

@SSango-hk9sm

4 ай бұрын

yes please!!! i second that

Thanks for the presentation, a lot about there origin that I can't explain but more clear details are explained in the book of Enoch chapter 6.

For a more complete understanding, check out the work of Dr. Michael Heiser.

@dadewalter3585

Жыл бұрын

Or you could just study the Bible.

@JRTexx

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I agree.

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

I suppose - if you say so. I mean, they were technically NOT CANON for the majority of church history. And including them raises many more questions, correspondingly. Knowably disloyal, unreliable angels, get to freely roam around a sabotaged planet, guarded only by 'spiritually dead' people, many 'natural men', who did not choose either state? (Only Adam and Eve, technically, did?) So what was actually expected to happen? And were these angels themselves, already 'spiritually dead' at time? Which may not, then, appear an especially sizable, impedance?

Read Michael Heiser’s books like “unseen realm”, “demons”, and “reversing Harmon”

I think to know the answer to the question of nephlim would also mean you’ve learned whatever hitler thought he knew about angelic bloodlines. Furthermore how were they able to repopulate after the flood of Noah? I’ve heard some say the gene never effected women and because of that one of the wives of Noah’s sons carried the gene over. But though genesis says what it says about the angels in that account, who’s to say they did not do it before as well? I’ve always believed angels had their own free will as well because if not then how was Lucifer able to oppose God? This has always been such an interesting subject to me.

@leemarshall348

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean angelic bloodlines?

@VividlineImages

Жыл бұрын

@@leemarshall348 hitler had this belief that blond hair blue eyed people where of an angelic bloodline and could create the perfect race of people

@dastanjan320

Жыл бұрын

Also în my opinion angels have free will. Like, look at the great number of occasions when demons are called (like the Legion Demon who possesed a herd of pigs and killed them after), it is clear that they spoke as one and were able to talk and even request to jesus to let them pick the pigs herd. So yes. They have free will. But they are demons, and we were talking about Angeles. Well, I hope there is no debate that demons are nothing but "fallen angels"

@leemarshall348

Жыл бұрын

@@VividlineImages that’s ridiculous lmao

@VividlineImages

Жыл бұрын

@@leemarshall348 oh ok

Look up Rob Skiba. The guy, bless his soul, has done tons of studies on this topic.

Chuck Missler, check him out if you haven't already

Thank you very much brother for this video, God bless you. Let's look at other points in the Bible:1. If we literally translate verse 4 from chapter 6 - “In those days there were fallen ones on the earth (nephilim)..." we are already told that the fallen angels were already on earth, from which it can be explained how there are different creatures in all cultures - centaurs, ours, etc. 2. Genealogy of Adam. It is said that Adam was created in the image and likeness of God, and his descendants began to be born in the image and likeness of Adam, but since man sinned and therefore man is also a fallen being. 3. Cain's line ends at the seventh descendant; nowhere is it mentioned that the Cainites and Sethites intersected with each other, and even more so if God's command was to fill the Earth, then why is it from a human union Giants began to be born with man, and moreover, why did this become inconvenient for God? 4. It is important to note that even after the Flood, various idols appear that do not have bodies that are invisible... Are these not the same descendants of the Rephaim and Anakim, who in the days of the Flood were deprived of their flesh and have now become invisible spirits to whom heaven is barred5. It is written that we will judge the angels, but if there are faithful angels who did not sin, then how did those who rebelled against God fall? 6. Remember the exorcism and images in Revelation where fallen spirits can inhabit people and even cause harm, but only with the permission of God. God didn't plan them to be the creatures He wanted created, they are determined to still be on Earth, along with Satan, and those angels are imprisoned in darkness for the great judgment 6. There are quite a few moments in the history of mankind where the “gods” taught humanity various arts and even more, they all came out of water!

Does anyone really think angels”fallen” have reproductive organs as to mate with humans? I don’t think so.

May want to check the work and videos by Rob Skiba, Tom Horn, and A. Marzulli, ...all who have done tremendous work and authored many books on this subject.

Bare in mind some people think Genesis nephilim described Achilles like men and are polygamous sinful kings. That the nephilim reported in numbers was a forgery a false report. And that Goliath was never called a Nephilim in the bible. Lastly nephilim has several translations. Including heroes. Not just giants. Lastly the sons of God may refer to a righteous line of Seth mingling with a wicked line of Cain the daughters of man. This is btw a alternative interpretation Not my own beliefs

Read the book of Enoch it tells you. And yes, they existed. Also, their descendants are still around, only the earth cannot sustain them and the change in atmosphere doesn't allow for them to reach such sizes any longer. The "Sons of Yah (who you may call God)" can be angels or men. Basically some of his creations which = his sons. However, these specific group of angels came down and bred with women. this made them Separated for Yah cause they defiled themselves with women. Ps, They can have a form like that of a human (you can likely find multiple instances a person couldn't tell an angel and human apart in scripture) nonetheless, these human and angel off spring are the Nephilim. "they were on the earth in those days." Because after some time, they had multiplied and settled. Epic deluge happens some of them survived.

@AdventureSMBW

Жыл бұрын

The Book of Enoch was proven to be written by a guy pretending to be Enoch abour 1700 years ago. There's no credible information in it.

@Yahnart

Жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW There can likely be truth and lies in it just like the bible. As the bible is simply a book with parts of scripture put into it called "Bible." It doesn't contain all of scripture. Hense why people should pray for a double portion of discernment. Just like the bible has been tampered with we don't just discard it as all false. Same can be said for the apocrypha books.

The most satisfying theory I have seen concerning the Nephilim comes from Fr. Stephen De Young. It is a bit involved, but it concerns the sexual pagan rituals of the time.

@sirpepeofhousekek6741

3 ай бұрын

I agree with him. The Nephilim were not genetic. They were spiritual. It explains how angels could procreate with humans (they were possessing humans) It explains why they aren't literally freakishly tall physical giants in the way that we understand, and that in turn explains why there are no giants bones found.

They are the offspring of fallen angels and Human beings, as scripture states “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.” They were there in those days (in the times of Noah) WHEN!!! Notice the word “when” in the verse, when the sons of God had intercourse with the daughters of man.

@The1SilverShadow

Жыл бұрын

Right exactly...why over complicate scripture, it says right there

@qfranklin2777

Жыл бұрын

@@The1SilverShadow exactly

@WNYXeb777

Жыл бұрын

Dr. Mike Heiser does some wonderful interpretation --- even when I disagree with him.

@foodforthesoul1326

Жыл бұрын

You are referring to an English translation from words that you can not read. By the way, why does a follower of Christ use a symbol for Satan as his thumbnail?

@WNYXeb777

Жыл бұрын

@@foodforthesoul1326 How about you commenting on his supposed incorrect interpretation instead of opining on his avatar? I find his statement accurate as do many other.

IMO the Nephilim refers to the Denasovians or the Neantherhals, or the builders of Giza and Atlantis (prior to the great flood)

Aliens!

I believe it means there were giants in those days as they produced giants when they took daughters off men and it says and after that as in the line continued even after that time period when they first took the daughters of men

Lets recap. A nomadic group happened upon a well developed civilization and wish to take control of it. Spies were sent out and observed that the people were much larger physically than they were. This was coined the "the land of milk and honey" probably because of the material abundance that comes with settlement and agriculture. The abundance would lead to proper nutrition and full physical development, contrasted from the diet of "mana" and subsistence from a wondering nomadic tribe. The spies used metaphor to communicate the size difference using characters from their culture and natural surroundings (as you do). Sounds pretty normal so far. I would say that participating in the institution of marriage is about as far away from "sexual perversion" as you can get, so your comparison between the "sons of God" and fallen angels doesn't seem to hold up. The "sons of God" were apparently able to reproduce successfully with "known regulars" so you can conclude that the "sons of God" were completely human (no information was given about the fertility of their offspring, which would give some more insight into potential genetic differences [ie. the mule). So getting back to the story, apparently this rag tag nomadic tribe then "utterly destroyed them with their cities." That begs the question, WHO'S cities? not the nomadic tribe's cities (by definition). So that leaves the tribe using the cities that exist in the promised land AGAINST the people who built them. This ends up as being a story about a smaller, weaker group overtaking a larger, stronger group by usurping the stronger peoples civilization. hmmm..... interesting. EDIT: This could also explain the historical basis of why Jewish men get so pissed when you date their sisters.

I clicked because I thought the video provided an answer.

@electroraptor71

2 ай бұрын

We don't know the answer

Look up Tim Alberino, L.A. Marzulli, the late Chuck Missler and Rob Skiba.

Genesis chapter 6 was talking about Adam's chosen seedline messing with the children of Cain. Adam was literally called the son of God

Obviously if God wanted us to know plainly he would have said. In the Bible the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things. “All the Old Testament is about me” - Jesus

From my understanding, the creation of the earth in genesis, wasn’t a creation but a recreation. The earth was inhabited with creatures , the nephelims and other creatures before the fallen angels were casted and brought about its destruction. So God recreated the earth and for the first time added a being who had His image(human) But kept them in a seperate place(the garden). But this nephilim, creatures and fallen angels were in other places of the new earth. So Adam and eve were casted from the garden and made to live along side these beings. More reasons why after cain killed Abel, and God placed a mark on Cain, He said nobody should harm cain, who was God referring to if not these being already in the earth, cause Adam and Eve other children wouldn’t have been the ones God was referring to. Just my view though, correct me if I am wrong.

@bagumaderrick

2 ай бұрын

Search out for the book of Enoch,it explains whatever happened before the book of Genesis

When you add the consideration of 2nd Temple Jewish literature. The evidence overwhelmingly supports that the are fallen spiritual beings (angels is the word we often use but "angel" is just a job description and strictly speaking is inaccurate

You do know fallen angels can enter humans right? In order for them to have relationship with human women... they had to enter men to add their genetic seed.

@Ana-brwn

Жыл бұрын

No they changed their physical form into human. they can change their form here on earth. fallen angels do not possess. demons can possess. demons are evil malicious spirits . fallen angels are just angels who disobeyed God just like there are humans that disobey God. angels and aliens are the same thing, different names.

No mention of the Book of Enoch at all?

If fallen Angels were always kept in chains after leaving their dwelling, how did they have free time to sin on earth?

Be interesting to see how censored / shadow banned this is

@WNYXeb777

Жыл бұрын

Yep - comment deleted by host site.

it's not fallen angels that matted with the daughters of man but sons of god who were called watchers that watched over the world and the animals, they's a lot more to it that i can't fully explain in a comment section just search about the watchers on youtube they are videos that explain it well

@Ana-brwn

Жыл бұрын

the watchers & angels are the same thing. aliens and angels are the same thing. different names.

3:57 Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah.

Even as a kid i always knew that they were fallen angels and not Angels. Bc its logic But I always wondered WHY they had reproducing organs like human men

The key verse is verse 4 in Genesis chapter 6: 4) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (There 'Were') Giants on the Earth in those days, and (Also 'After'), when the sons of God.... This is saying that the Nephilim, again, (Were..as in.. 'ALREADY'... There)...'''BEFORE''' the sons of God... And the Nephilim were there (After) the sons of God... Therefore, the Nephilim are NOT the offspring from the sons of God having children with the daughters of men. How can the Nephilim be the offspring if they were already there before the sons of God? The Nephilim are their Own Entity.

@fabianfollowerofchrist5299

Жыл бұрын

The nephilim didn’t exist before the sons of God did what they did with the daughters of men.

@charleschunge

Жыл бұрын

Correct.

@charleschunge

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@charleschunge

Жыл бұрын

The Nephilims were on earth already

@RebeccaSpires-eb9bn

11 ай бұрын

Incorrect. This verse is setting it up.

Read 1st Enoch. It's mentioned twice directly and dozens of times indirectly in both the Old and New Testament. It's quite clear that it was common knowledge of the authors

I thing the first theory is correct. We know that the nephilims were the heroes of the old which would mean that genesis 4:6 saying "heroes of the old who came from sons of God and daughters of man" would have to talk about them and that its just that the way moses wrote it.

For a better understanding of Nephlim, look no further into the Book of Enoch who says that the fallen angels bred with the women of earth and gave birth to Nephillim

My understanding is that they were the sons of kings' concubines who had access to the best food and armor.

I always believed that the Nephilim were the offspring of fallen angels and human women. That’s what I believed God was talking about when he saw that the world was full of abominations, therefore bringing the flood. the Nephilim alongside other corrupt beings.

What about the book of Enoch then? Is it true?

Read the book of Enoch. It will help u fully understand all about the Nephilim.

Funny thing is yall sound like yall where there.

Why would fallen angels be called sons of God? Giants could have been part of "early 6th day creation" before Adam was created.

@bagumaderrick

2 ай бұрын

Those angels were sent on earth to protect the garden of Eden so that people shouldn't access it since they had disobeyed God, so the more they spent on earth started admiring daughters on men

As an EOTC believer, The book of Enoch say more about these creatures.

If we go with the theory that Giants come from fallen angels, we'll meet a problem: The question: How the same giants survived the great flood, becouse Genesis 6:4 is before the flood and the giants in Numbers are after the flood?

@Ascended508

28 күн бұрын

Simple, one or more of Noah's sons wives. Would had to have to be impure (corrupted with same bloodline) and over time, those genetics resulted in giant offspring appearing after the flood. Kinda obvious tbh

I was SO bothered by this question. It’s answered by language actually. Geneses 6:4 “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.” The Hebrew word “when” is מתי (mah-tie) but in this instance it’s another word that means (whenever the event or act occurred). This means that whenever the sons of God went into the daughters of men, there were born to them Nephalim. Before the flood, it was an infestation. Afterwards, there were still occurrences of this great sin until the sons of God were no longer sinning in this manner lest they join their buddies chained in gloomy darkness (2Peter 2:4). It was not one occurrence that the angels did this, but many. Most before the flood, but some after. Before the flood, there may have been a risk of humanity becoming tainted with angel blood which would mess up the prophesy of a seed of Eve crushing the head of the snake in Genesis 3:15. That last part is a theory, and not an idea stated in the Bible.

Remember,the Angels that went to Sodom had physical bodies! Apparently when they come down to earth they receive physical bodies. The angels in HEAVEN will not marry or be given in marriage.

It's being written by Moses. He is saying they where there in those days and after those days WHEN. Key word is when. This means that when the fallen angels did the dead they where there in those days and after. At least that's how I understand it.

Anak.- Annuaki

Heres an interpretation most haven't considered or heard. Because we can't verify who or what they are [nephilim] I thought this was interesting. Nephiilim are men. they are also old and reknown as it's written. Moses wrote genesis and lived to 120. 900 yr old men could be considered reknown by moses for the ages they reached. They [nephilim] could be Adam and offspring through to Noah and descendants afterward. The men of giant ages. There is no heights given r/e to nephilim so it is a guess how tall they were. The ages on te other hand s well documented. Goliath was either 6 cubits and a span 9/10 ft tall KJV or 4 cubits and a span 6/7 ft tall Septuagint and dead sea scrolls. Regardless we can't verify Goliaths true height.

@kriegjaeger

Жыл бұрын

King Og of Bushan 's bed was seized and transported to a place to remain as a demonstration of his size. Bed was 12 feet by 6 feet. So a person sleeping comfortably on it might be fewer than 9 feet tall. Not outrageous but to the Hebrews who were around 5 feet tall and mostly skin and bones, some guy who looks like "The mountain" from game of thrones yes, absolutely is a giant.

@DarrylSteele69

Жыл бұрын

@@kriegjaeger Correct, his bed was 12/13 ft long by 6 ft wide. That is huge and he may of been a 9/10 ft tall person, I understand why people think that, me once being one of them, but there is no writings of his actual height to verify this, so an assumption is required to make him 9/10 ft tall. At that height you start getting into the square cube law and the problems associated with that. A bed that size for a king of those days may simply and possibly of been a status symbol. I'm not sure if that can be verified, but does sound plausible. Even Goliath has 2 different heights written of him. Kjv 6 cubits and a span. 9/10 ft. Septuagint 4 cubits and a span 7/8 ft. The only height that seems confirmed and consistent biblically is the Egyptian at 5 cubits 7.5 ft . 1 Chronicles 11:23

@kriegjaeger

Жыл бұрын

@@DarrylSteele69 As for the possibility of status symbol, I think it should be possible to compare to beds of contemporaries or something near it. We do have something like King Tut's bed which still appears to be functional and practical. I don't know about you but I can't fathom crawling across an apartment sized room every morning to get out of bed. But there are other plausible explanations as well.

@DarrylSteele69

Жыл бұрын

@@kriegjaeger As far as crawling across a bed, here's an eg of one of today''s beds. “The Family Bed XL” 84” x 144” x 13" makes this 12 foot wide 144” x 13" . Take you half an hour to get to the edge. I did a quick search the largest beds in history. The largest bed in the world according to the Guinness Book of World Records was made by Commissie Zomerfeesten St Gregorius Hertme (NL) in Hertme. It measured 86 foot 11 inches long and 53 foot 11 inches wide. As you can see we can't use a bed to signify one's humanistic size. You do however make a good point of comparing beds by contemporaries of king Og. Another thing I came across was king's Og's bed description in Hebrew ['eres] may also mean sarcophagus. The largest Egyptian sarcophagus found apparently was 4 meters (13 feet) long. The only difference between this and King Og's sarcophagus [if that's what it was] was what it was made of.

@kriegjaeger

Жыл бұрын

@@DarrylSteele69 Fair point! The only counterpoint I can think of in comparing contemporaries to ancient is the sheer amount of labor required to make such a bed or theoretically the bed-frame out of iron of that size in the timeframe. This was around the beginning of the bronze age, while the Iron age was some centuries later. Iron tools weren't common, let alone a bed [Frame] that size (or Sarcophagus) made entirely of iron. Contemporarily of course we can slap together a bed in hours. Even an iron one. In the Bronze age a massive iron bed? It seems not only impractical but too base a metal for ornamentation. But at any rate, we can only guess. Though conventional wisdom remains that there are currently very very large people and pretty small people. A tribe of nomads subsisting on Mana would indeed feel like giants compared to 6 foot Strongmen double their weight and half again their width.

Could the Nephilim be from another religion/belief? In Norse mythology there is a place called Niflheim. Where giants lived. An other thing if these nephilim were as high as mountains and they stood on a mountain. Did God flood the world twice as high to kill them?

@Ana-brwn

Жыл бұрын

it’s the same tale actually lol . God never let’s his word die, the bible isn’t his only form of communication . these tales have been passed down from generations, because there were witnesses. we didn’t have cameras back then, we had our mouths & ears.

Genetic mutations are never beneficial. People with gigantism due to a gland overworking end up with horrible pain as their bodies begin to fall apart pretty early in life. Hard to say what they were but even today we can see there are men over 6 feet tall and over 200 pounds of muscle. If you, as a 5 foot tall Hebrew who weighed only close to 100 lbs witnessed an entire tribe of men like the former, you would be terrified of them. Granted the reports were unreliable.

@stryker5573

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, law of entropy and all that. However, we have demonstrated that intention genetic modification can be beneficial. Look up Belgium Blue Cows etc. A lot of people interpret the nephilim as breeding with humans, but if they had simply conveyed knowledge to humans on how to selectively breed genes or genetically modify themselves somehow it would not have been necessary for the nephilim to actually have sex with humans. I think it is likely pre-flood peoples committed all types of abominations, including corrupting creatures and God's creation, which is in part why God would have cleansed the world. With 800-900 year lifespans, humans had all kinds of time to experiment with breeding and pass along first hand knowledge etc. I think it is likely pre-flood activity is responsible for being the origination of many civilization's myths about hybrid animals like Minotaurs.

@kriegjaeger

Жыл бұрын

@@stryker5573 Fair point of genetic manipulation I would say rather than "mutation". Granted thoroughbred dogs tend to have more health problems than mutts or those with more full genetic information. We might selectively breed for traits we want, that make it more useful in certain ways, but likely with tradeoffs.

Zecharia Sitchin tries to explain our mysterious history using " Fiction" ,Translated Sumerian Clay Tablots,And Ancient Megalithic Structures in Egypt, Lebanon,Syria,Iraq,Iran,Indus River Valley and elsewhere."His books are very interesting! Also " Fingerprints of the Gods " by Graham Hancock is another good book about are Mysterious History!

@bennyx1281

Жыл бұрын

Why is it fiction?

It’s not in the Bible there is a book called the book of Enoch and it’s actually talks about the origins of the Nephilim a little bit. Now there is many things in the book of Enoch that contradict the Bible, buts it’s the little bits of truth that show the full picture.

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

Nothing in Enoch contradicts the Bible just mans doctrine. Its apocryphal not heretical. Jesus quoted from it.

I’ve actually heard that the sons of God were Seth’s descendants, and the daughters of man were Cain’s.

@shimshonbendan8730

Жыл бұрын

That is incorrect. That was part of the early Catholic teaching.

@Airijko

Жыл бұрын

@@shimshonbendan8730 not just catholic. It's believed in Presbytarian theology, except the part where the daughters of man were specifically form Cain. They say the were the unelect, so the nephilim were God's people marrying unbelievers, which God commands not to do. I don't personally believe in this tho, but it's also a possibility.

@RebeccaSpires-eb9bn

11 ай бұрын

Cain is a product of satan and Eve.

Very easily solved. There was no separate race known as nephilim. The term 'Sons of God' refers to the people on earth who were faithful to Him. So the descendants of Seth, and kept His commandments and worshipped Him. The other people of the world were the descendants of Cain who abandoned God and were not faithful. So the descendants of Seth saw that the daughters of Cain were pretty, and through marriage lost their loyalty to God and worshipped false gods. That's how everyone turned out bad enough to need a flood to destroy the world. Angels don't have the capacity for reproduction at all, so demons (fallen angels that followed Satan's rebellion) can't either. The giant size of people can be explained through genetic vitality, which is still present today (think of a Liger, for example).

@sirpepeofhousekek6741

3 ай бұрын

It wasn't that they were physically tall. Lord of Spirits explains this very well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ6lxcquXbu7iKg.htmlsi=EfidxBtbolTu2gJt

I thought the nephilim was a giant named nephilim but ok

In my mind, Nephilim are the fallen angels, I mean, word itself means the Fallen ones. Humans are named the deceived ones. Also, Son of God is by no means a rare title. God calls Israel his son for example.

"Not given to marriage" does not mean they can't bread. I also have no reference that the sons of God that slept with women were cursed or fallen. You said yourself that they were chained in gloominess by God. Also you have said that if angels are not in heaven, they are part of the fallen which is not true at all: several angels were tangible here on earth and were at the service of God, they ate, rested, walked and stayed on earth several times, they could even be raped, not that it would be allowed by God, but they were shaped in a physical form close enough to humans as we are based in the resemblance of celestial beings, as intended by God himself when he says "us" and not "me" in the creation. Some parts of this video are actually relating to the Bible and I can see that you have the fear and love of God in you, so when stating leads, please give a little more attention to the instances that you use as steps towards answers because if you fail them, the rest will be tainted. Might the spirit of God lead you on, I love you in Christ and I thank you for this content, just wan't to help!

@Ana-brwn

Жыл бұрын

Amen !!! have you seen some of these comments ??? people falsely interpreted the bible , because it makes them comfortable. they shut out the truth because they can’t comprehend reality.

Something I realized from watching this video is that Angels have free will 🤔 Some chose to follow Satan

They were Giants, Sons of Angels. The Earth aint billions of yrs old, and it aint a ball flying through an endless vacuum 🤠

Fallen angels mating with human women✅

@Jojo_Flake

Жыл бұрын

why the green check mark??

@JesusismyKingNL

Жыл бұрын

@@Jojo_Flake meaning correct✅

i believe they are fallen angels because they reappear after the flood.

Regarding your invitation to bible scholars of which entity they were....... Here's why the theory that Moses was contrasting doesn't work - It is not true to the grammer. "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days" is an opening summary statement to be explained in the following lines, not a standalone fact. Its like me saying "There was gas in the cars in those days, WHEN the gas attendants dispensed gas from their machines." Those are not 2 separate, unrelated facts. The second part is an explanation of how the first is possible. Its the same writing type here. "WHEN the sons of God came....." is the explanation of the opening thesis. Regarding "and also after those days..." The "days" referred to is the flood. The flood destroyed the Nephilim, but even after the flood, it happened again. I think Nimrod and Babel is a decent amount of proof that humanity had the help of fallen angels even after the flood. It could easily reasoned that the help was strictly demonic, but the existence of physical giants throughout Israel's conquest proves otherwise. This time, however, God solved the problem with a human army, rather than a natural disaster. Once Jonathan killed the last of the giants, there came a period of peace for Solomon and every war from that point forward was Israel's doing, not God's mission. Anyway, the "days" means the days before and after the flood, not the days before after Adam. Great video!

What is missed here is Genesis 3:15. God said he would enmity between the "seed of the woman" and the "seed of the Nachash". Seed in Hebrew is "Zerah". It means sperm. We know the Seed of the woman is a reference to Yeshua who will come to take back the authority the devil took from Adam. What is often forgotten that the devil has always wanted to be worshiped. After Genesis 3, we see in Genesis 6:3 that the B'nai Elohim "took" wives from the human men. They cohabited with them. This created a parallel race of beings to the human race. We see that the Flood of Noah came because their Nephilim beings had completely taken over the entire world save for Noah and his wife and their three sons and wives. After the Nephilim were wiped out, the devil's plan was stopped. However, Genesis 6:4 it says there were Nephilim in those days and "after". The word for after in Hebrew is "acharit" Generally, acharit refers to the Last Days, something Yeshua mentioned in Matthew 24 regarding the days of Noah and the return of our Messiah. Genesis 6:9 mentions that Noah was "perfect in his generation". It does not say he was a perfect man. It says generation, or Toldot in Hebrew. That means his DNA was untainted by the incursion of the Fallen Angels and the Nephilim. Christians miss the white elephant in the room when Yeshua was asked a question by the Sadducees about whose husband would be for the woman who had 7 husbands. He noted that in Heaven, we are like the angels. What is forgotten is that in Heaven, there is no need for reproduction by humans, but on earth, it is how we perpetuate life. We cannot compare Heaven and earth when talking about abilities of either angels or people. The Bible also said there will be no need to eat or drink, but we do need to eat and drink on earth. Remember, the devil is the god of this world according to Yeshua and Rav Sha'ul-Paul. This is his domain as is the second heaven. ! Peter 3:19-20, II Peter 2:4-9 and Jude 6,7 all reference the Fallen Angels who sinned and are in chains of darkness awaiting judgement. They are receiving a special punishment for leaving their estate and defiling themselves with women. One more verse that is interesting is in I Corinthians 11:10. Paul says that a woman should have a covering over her head "because of the angels". Because of the angels? Women cover their heads because of angels? Apparently, Paul understood that human women can be attractive to angels, especially to the evil ones cast down to earth with the devil. This is a direct reference to Genesis 6:3.

@RebeccaSpires-eb9bn

11 ай бұрын

The fallen angels will return at the end. As a Christian I am aware of everything you said and most Christian’s adhere to the word of God and know more than a Jew.

I wonder if the Nephilim built the pyramids.

Line of Set

5:42, you say there is a problem with the theory of the Nephilim being descendants of fallen angels, but the answer to the question of where the later descendants of Nephilim come from was in the verse from Genesis which you quoted. You read the words yourself: "and also afterwards", as in after the flood. What was also after the flood? "when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them." This phenomenon does not appear to have stopped. If we are living in the last days, remember that Jesus said that the coming of the son of man will be like the days of Noah. He highlighted one aspect of those days, but if he meant the coming of the sons of man would be like the days of Noah more generally, note that in the days of Noah, the "sons of god" mated with human women and had the Nephilim as their offspring. Do we see anything like that today? I propose to you that the phenomenon of people reporting to have been abducted by aliens and seeing alien-human hybrids is exactly this, that "aliens" are fallen angels manifesting in physical form to do this. This idea of human-alien hybrids is not a unique story; so many people seem to have experienced sexual abuse at the hands of "aliens" that something has to be going on. Theologically speaking, why might the fallen angels have tried to mate with humans in Genesis 6? The first Messianic prophecy foretold that the seed of the woman would crush the seed of the serpent, in Genesis 3. Satan's pattern of behavior has been that he seems to try to maneuver God to try to block God's promises. God foretold that the seed of the woman would crush the seed of the serpent, so the Serpent tried to contaminate the human gene pool. If the Nephilim were to intermarry with humans, within a handful of generations, there might not be any human that wasn't also the offspring of these fallen angels. For that reason, God wiped them out with the flood, and also commanded their extermination after the flood in times where they encountered Joshua and the Israelites. The remanant of the Anakim settled in Gath (Joshua 11:22). Later, who emerges from Gath? Goliath the giant. These details all suggest that they were indeed giants. BTW, if you want to see some archaeological evidence suggestive of giants, Expedition Bible has a great video on this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqCJrNqHdty4crA.html

Could the Nephilim be neanderthals?

Thanks for admitting the answer isn't clear. We tend to get dogmatic when we shouldn't. For myself, a Christian of 52 years and a student of the Bible, I'm pretty sure they're a mutation of humanity. "Sons of God" in the passage may mean 'men' or 'angels'. The literal meaning is 'mighty ones'. Hebrew is notoriously ambiguous and metaphorical in its definitions. Here's the whole passage: When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal[b]; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. 5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them.” Ignoring 'sons of God', what do we see? We see 'humans' mentioned eleven times. The whole passage is about the sins of humanity and God's decision to punish them. If these are fallen angels, they are already punished. If they sinned again with human women, why aren't they punished more? God is not unjust. He doesn't let the guilty go free. It's more likely these are mighty men from Adam's line who fell in the flood. Men sinned and were punished in the flood. Perhaps the giantism arose from a mutation from their sin. My clinching verse is one citation of 'son of man' you didn't mention: Psalm 8:What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit[c] him? 5 For You have made him a little lower than [d]the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor. Here man is contrasted with angels and is called a little lower, yet to be crowned with glory and honor. Here 'son of man' is clearly a man. Now this is also a reference to Jesus Christ, who was also born as a man, not as an angel. This is why I think the Nephilim are not descended from angels. Plus Jesus's comment that angels don't marry. I know He says 'angels in heaven' but he's comparing glorified Christians to righteous angels, not to fallen demons.

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

Amen, my friend ! Although the argument presented are not exactly what I wrote above in the comment section, they do meet : Sons of men, refer to men, and angels cannot procreate.

@AdventureSMBW

Жыл бұрын

@@flonoiisana4647 "Angels cannot procreate." Where exactly did you get that information?

@AdventureSMBW

Жыл бұрын

I have several questions, but I think I'll just ask one - What do angels not marrying have to do with them committing sexual acts? That's like saying, because Im not getting married, I cant physically have sex.

@flonoiisana4647

Жыл бұрын

​@@AdventureSMBW Here is the text : 28 Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. 29 There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second took her to wife, and he died childless. 31 And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife. 34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. 37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at th

@Ana-brwn

Жыл бұрын

Angels can not procreate in heaven. so they abandoned heaven, came to earth, because they found human women attractive. sons of God & son of man, are two different references. sons of God are not referring to humans . you also find these same “mythology tales” in different cultures . if a story is told for thousands of years, and that same story resembles the ones in the bible, i wouldn’t call that a coincidence. the bible is not a one all be all. God showed truth in the world too 🤷🏾‍♀️

Im not scolar but to me the fallen angels thing make more sense to me and out of nephelim became demons I guess

Ya’ll need to read “The Unseen Realm” and actually learn something.

The word Nephilim is actually Aramaic. The verb Naphal, to fall, would not conjugate to Nephilim in Hebrew.

Those that chose not their first estate

Amazing video! What a lot of people fail to realize today is who the first Nephilim was. Cain, the son of the serpent spoken of in the Revelation of Christ (12:9). "Eating of the fruit" of a tree was a common near-eastern euphemism for sexual intercourse. It explains why Cain was not 'good' like the rest of God's creation. It also explains Christ's words in John 8:44 when he was speaking to the Edomite Pharisees.

Remember the parable of the wheat and the tares? The nephilim are the tares. The seed of the serpent. Literally men created in the image of their god, a fallen angel.

Scripture is clear….they were already there when the sons of god came down. Genetic mutations as a result of Sins influence or just genetic variations 🤷. But separate beings to the offspring of the angels.

2:00

"Nephilim" is a word which means "Fallen", It stands for religious leaders, teachers of the law, and scribes who fell into unbelief by rebelling against God. Hence "fallen".

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

according to Calvinists only.

@WolfDragon07

3 ай бұрын

@@anthonyb5279 here you go, on account of two witnesses the truth shall be established.

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

@@WolfDragon07 Calvinist use that out of context to say the the Nephilim were sons of Cain and not giants but only rebellious Caininits.

@WolfDragon07

3 ай бұрын

@@anthonyb5279 "Nephilim" is an figurative word for a fallen religious celebrity and has nothing to do with Calvinism. The secret of interpretation is in understanding the meaning of the name.

@anthonyb5279

3 ай бұрын

@@WolfDragon07 I don't want to fight with you. But you don't have a clue. I don't want to further engage with you. please stop.

They are in NBA bow

Now do one on demons. The demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.

@zacharystephens174

Жыл бұрын

Fallen angels in general are demons, they didn't necessarily need to be Nephilim.

@lyftedmedia

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharystephens174 that’s not what the Jewish writers and Jews of those times thought. Fallen Angels did not become demons. They are still fallen angels. Some are kept in chains awaiting judgement.

@zacharystephens174

Жыл бұрын

@@lyftedmedia Define Demon, and that may clear up any confusion

@zacharystephens174

Жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Olivero Jeffrey Burton Russell (1987). Satan: The Early Christian Tradition. Ithaca: Cornell University Press.. I'd recommend this read. This goes more in depth as to why Fallen Angels can be Demons.

@lyftedmedia

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharystephens174 a disembodied spirit, evil spirit, malevolent spirit?

Enoch chapter 6 explains exactly what happened.

Yes! The giants were already here! They are NOT the children of angels!