Thanks for watching everyone! This video has a few mistakes that need clearing up: A) Telegram is FOSS and utilizes FOSS encryption, though it’s still not quite as proven as Signal’s Encryption. B) Telegram does have E2EE but it’s not a default and is restricted to secret chats. C) The Privacy/Security “Colors” at the end are an over-simplification and shouldn’t be taken too seriously. They are just representations of some pros/cons of each provider.

@techlore

6 жыл бұрын

This wasn’t a showdown between the best possible options out there, it was just a direct comparison between these three services. I’ll probably do a video down the road with the best possible solutions.

@jrm6502

6 жыл бұрын

You should also look at threema

@AUDREYGALE1

5 жыл бұрын

sorry as i was doing research i did a double take...lol

@dickmermer2937

5 жыл бұрын

As a result, which one is the SAFEST? Because, according to some videos that have been released on KZread, even without installing any software into the device, some people may read my WhatsApp messages. Is this possible really truly? And does Signal be a solution for that threat?

@swisspeedy

5 жыл бұрын

Threema!!!

Who’s here after WhatsApp new policy where they’ve announced basically they’ll use all of your data for anything?

@davewalks257

3 жыл бұрын

Spread the word bro

@jazilusman209

3 жыл бұрын

Yes right !

@Radbrad.6133

3 жыл бұрын

🙋🏻‍♂️ And I’m thinking to move to Telegram even though I prefer Signal since it’s more secured, but none of my contacts or people in this region use Signal whatsoever, at least Telegram isn’t owned by Facebook

@Lifestylewithjada

3 жыл бұрын

Me lol😂

@fik_of_borg

3 жыл бұрын

Waiting for the 2021 update .. but I for one not bothered much by the sharing of my metadata. And I think the only new thing is that now it's explicit in the terms of service. Anecdotally I remember a couple years ago I was chatting in WhatsApp web about using a SDR to receive aircrafts signals, sharing links and such, and surprise: the following days I started to see ads for that in my Facebook feed. A little creepy, but mostly useful. Certainly better than generic non-targeted ads. And now KZread knows too (just kidding, KZread already knew) In order to be more useful, your assistant (human or artificial) need to know your routine, likes and dislikes, who you talk to and where yo talk from. I rather have a faceless algorithm to know me than a person subject to moods and prejudice.

Telegram isn't owned by Facebook. Major reason to use it right there

@TroyTVProductions

5 жыл бұрын

Encryption isn't enabled by default. Signal > What's App > Telegram

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

End to end* encryption

@NeverWolf

5 жыл бұрын

@@TroyTVProductions then enable it.

@jkelol111

4 жыл бұрын

@@jerrin1541 It's called secret chats in Telegram

@climatechangedoesntbargain9140

4 жыл бұрын

Matrix (usable and secure) > Signal, Telegram (ranked at the same level: signal is more secure, but Telegram is way more usable) > xmpp > rest

Who is coming here after ELON MUSK "Use Signal"

@PhysicsViolator

3 жыл бұрын

Mimimimi

@eswe6319

3 жыл бұрын

Signal sucks, USA sucks

@SYCTHE100

3 жыл бұрын

@@eswe6319 use Signal

@josemanuelrosalesrios

3 жыл бұрын

Telegram is better xD

I'd rather rank Telegram higher than Whatsapp for the sole reason of the latter being owned by Facebook. Big minus.

@AllenGuarnes

6 жыл бұрын

Think about it, would you trust the 'Secret Conversations' of Facebook's messenger? I won't. Definitely feel the same for Whatsapp.

@quchi7232

4 жыл бұрын

Allen Guarnes i’m a year late but eversince I switched to telegram, it was the best decision ever. I feel so secure

@PNCNDNOB

3 жыл бұрын

Privacy Signal

@fik_of_borg

3 жыл бұрын

I'd rather trust the faceless Facebook/Whatsapp algorithms than the closed/non-existent encryption of Dubai-based Telegram.

@fik_of_borg

3 жыл бұрын

@@Codyslx yes, they do have encryption. IN THEIR SERVERS. Not end-to-end. Not open source. Not auditable. "Trust us". No thanks. I keep feeling that Telegram is the toilet paper scare of 2021.

Who is here after the new WhatsApp update?

@BaldricksTurnip1

3 жыл бұрын

Telegram is inferior,it's encryption is suspect and it keeps encryption keys on the server, it's dodgy and insecure ❗

1. Signal (security) 2. Telegram (features) 3. WhatsApp (users)

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

TLDR lol

@elliotalderson2396

5 жыл бұрын

I actually watched your video, but unfortunately you got some of your data wrong. :(

@user-cz5mk1tx9d

4 жыл бұрын

right

@mdnoman9104

3 жыл бұрын

Hotel:Trivago

@fik_of_borg

3 жыл бұрын

A balanced opinion! Each one has it's advantages and likes.

Telegram is better than whatsapp

5 жыл бұрын

Noel Thomas Bejoy but no one uses it ...

@AtlantisTheLostEmpire

5 жыл бұрын

@ - As of March 2018, Telegram has over 200 million active users.

5 жыл бұрын

ATLANTIS yeah thats all cool but honestly i never saw someone use it ... might have something to do that i live in serbia (balkan Southern Europe)

@AtlantisTheLostEmpire

5 жыл бұрын

@ - You could be the first person to do so there.

@Golden-lviv

5 жыл бұрын

@Ellaine Privacy of Whatsapp is nothing in comparison to the Telegram's one. I can argue give you many reasons for that.

You are so wrong about comparing Telegram and WhatsApp, which makes me wonder if you ever used Telegram. It encrypts messages by default but it's not end to end. This is necessary for it's awesome sync between devices. You can pause your chat on your PC and immediately continue on your phone with all your chat history syncing between all your devices. With end to end encryption this is simply not possible. With Telegram you can have groups with up to 10000 members. Take that WhatsApp! Third, on Telegram you can chat without revealing your phone number to anyone which is not case for WhatsApp

5 жыл бұрын

I know he usually reads a lot before his videos, but it doesn't seem like he went through Telegram's docs

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't expand on "End to End" but that's still a concern, thanks for point that out. Remember that security and privacy are two entirely different games, and WhatsApp implements open source end-to-end encryption by default, making it by default a more secure service than Telegram. Privacy is another problem though, I would never trust Whatsapp to not collect metadata on users.

@jordanstins3521

5 жыл бұрын

@@techlore telegram has end to end encryption too just need to open secret chat. But normally is using mtproto encryption and is cluad based. Sorry for my bad English 🙏

@tjodh8229

5 жыл бұрын

Aria A i agree Telegram is better

@prasadwalavalkar

5 жыл бұрын

yes telegram uses encryption by default do research before you talk dude

why Telegram is not secure? and not privacy? how is WhatsApp is secure? IMHO Telegram is the best

This vid is two years old? Man, talk about seeing into the future. Great job!

@techlore

3 жыл бұрын

Most privacy issues that go public are discussed by privacy advocates years beforehand, but no one pays attention until it’s too late :)

1) they all require a phone number 2) telegram encrypts by default, just not *end to end* by default because then you couldnt get history on all your devices 3) telegrams privacy policy is good (try actually reading it) 4) WHY would you recommend WhatsApp over telegram for 1on1 in particular if telegram is the one with end to end, and is not using you metadata??? 5) you clearly didn't even read the chart you yourself refer to at the end Overall telegram just beats WhatsApp. If you want to be as private as possible: signal for sure.

@DVSPDC

5 жыл бұрын

It's not encrypted, end of story. Lol it doesn't matter if it's encrypted on rest when attacks can capture everything in transit

@NeverWolf

5 жыл бұрын

@@cinialvespow1054 Uhm... who fucking cares if the government can crack it? I just don't want my neighbors or the local scammers cracking it? Or more realistically, I don't want to see sidebar ads based on conversations I've had. I comment about what I'm doing on my iPad, I see iPad accessories. I make a joke about pegging and I see strapons. I don't give a fuck if the government looks into my debauchery, and reads into my weed smoking habits. They don't give a fuck either. Telegram is just better as a service. It even works on my tablet.

@corykong6510

5 жыл бұрын

@@DVSPDC show proof

@ykd0011

4 жыл бұрын

Telegram gives so much stettings in themes. You can personalize it in so many ways. Like you can change color of each and everything, separatly. And it gives unlimited cloud storage free and privacy and security is unparalleled.

@Yaotl-1

4 жыл бұрын

@@NeverWolf Doesn't matter if you're only looking at weed related sites. If governments don't give a shit then why are they collecting every piece of data on you? People like you are the reason privacy is vanishing. Everyone should care, have some pride for your personal life and quit being a bitch allowing entities to do whatever they want

Watching this after | WHATSAPP NEW TERMS|. Boycott WhatsApp ❌🆘

@100madmic

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I don't have Whatsapp

@anti-matter5874

3 жыл бұрын

Signal for me

1. Signal is developed by a Non-profit Organisation but Telegram is a Company Controlled product... 2. Moreover Signal doesn't store anything in Cloud but Telegram stores everything in the Cloud... 3. Signal Encryption happens in the device itself they don't have the encryption keys only the user have the keys but In case of Telegram they have the encryption keys stored in the cloud

@DoraemonCoolrocks

3 жыл бұрын

What u want to say?

@DoraemonCoolrocks

3 жыл бұрын

Which one is best?

Dude come on he rated whatsapp over Telegram for security 😂😂

Thoughts on making an updated version of this video? I know that Signal has introduced typing statuses and a few other features since you made this.

After new privacy policy I'm here

@s0umyendu

3 жыл бұрын

🙂

@Tefezilla

3 жыл бұрын

Mmmm

Telegram is secure,if not e2e encrypted,the other chats are encrypted with multiple keys split over different jurisdictions

Signal. All the way.

@hamranzahid2917

5 жыл бұрын

Just wished more people used it

@adrian457896

5 жыл бұрын

If Snowden uses it I’m using it 😊

@wall-e7179

4 жыл бұрын

Signal : There was a problem sending this video

@vidyagireeshan7876

4 жыл бұрын

How to know someone is online on signal?

@danyalparacha1761

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Watching this when #WhatsappNewPolicy is trending :)

Great video, man. Thank you. Very informative, with a few top-notch bits of humor thown in for good measure! You've earned a sub, to be sure. 👍💯

Love Telegram, I think is the best messanger ever

@jayokay9196

4 жыл бұрын

@ѕтeιn it's true though

@mdashekerabbi8308

4 жыл бұрын

Right telegram is the best

@koolcid9710

4 жыл бұрын

@ѕтeιn right

@mohammadshadik7874

4 жыл бұрын

But telegram was no message show in home screen

@afrocyberdelia

4 жыл бұрын

Me too...but Signal is today the most secure

Great video man! Have been reading up on this last few hours, and have heard what I read. Could have just came straight here :D But maybe wouldn't understand it at full, so, still happy.

Very comprehensive. Thanks!

What is that clicking noise?!? I was listening to this with stereo headphones and I thought the chair I was sitting in was falling apart. 🤣

suddenly this video becomes trending. Good work, man

I've been using Telegram for nearly 10 years. It's amazing . I don't know much about Signal, never used it

I'm glad to be an OG Signal user. I was using Signal before it was cool, AKA, the new WhatsApp policy XD

Signal is great for people who don't care about crap like stickers and simply want a secure way to communicate. In other words, most adults. I love it. I only wish more people used it. It's always important to remember that Signal sends encrypted messages as well as traditional messages. Unless the other person is also using Signal the messages will be unencrypted, unsecured SMS or MMS.

@amitarora3104

5 жыл бұрын

bt in signal no one shw online or offline?

@rohanshinde4327

4 жыл бұрын

@@cinialvespow1054 SMS.

@TheMoonValley

4 жыл бұрын

Does it support video calling?

@rohanshinde4327

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMoonValley Yes.

@vidyagireeshan7876

4 жыл бұрын

@@amitarora3104 How to know that

In the absence of anything better in terms of security then Signal wins for me hands down. Not as slick as others, perhaps, but perfectly usable; personally, I actually _like_ it.

Uhh... WhatsApp? Secure?

@techlore

6 жыл бұрын

Very much so. They use the same encryption standards as Signal. Now privacy is another topic entirely. The video talks about this.

@MrSamadolfo

6 жыл бұрын

Techlore 🤓 so u mean its not private? is it because anyone at Facebook Corp can review ur messages? 😨

@ethaningoa7461

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrSamadolfo no... Did you not watch? They have your meta data. Nothing else. So they know things about you. Not about what is said

@MrSamadolfo

5 жыл бұрын

@@ethaningoa7461 ☺️ ok, thanks for the explanation

@MrSamadolfo

5 жыл бұрын

@always ا love ل me م - Ali Imran Nikita Jouchims 🙂 ok thanks i didnt know that

3:22 being a telegram fan I needed to know this Great work 👍🏻 Thanks

very Nice informative video thanks

Your video is of utter importance now!

Thanks bro... I'm moving to signal 💪🔐

❌ No one should use a Messaging App which uses your phone number to register for their service, if you are concerned about privacy

Got 2 questions. Let's say I download Signal. Do 2 different people have to call through Signal for it logs to be private or it starts private from my end? Also, when a person who doesn't have Signal calls through their default messaging app will it still register secured or not, even if I just have Signal downloaded and not the other person?

Is there a way to transfer your current sms messages to signal when you start using it or is it basically you're starting from scratch?

Thanks! That is a very well put together video, great and concise information! :)

Signal will be the next WhatsApp 🤞

@Lifestylewithjada

3 жыл бұрын

Lol does it have status,i mean can we post status??

I like the features of Telegram most - specifically the 2X speed playback of video messages that others send. Once you try that (I first saw this with the Marco Polo app) you will NOT be able to live without it. Especially when getting those messages from that one or two people who drone on or monologue. When MarcoPolo butchered the features on their app our whole family moved to Telegram, and now I like it better.

Telegram ROCKS ✌✌

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty awesome 👍

@Techlore "According to documents filed by the Department of Justice, Signal’s encrypted messages can be intercepted from iPhone devices when those Apple devices are in a mode called partial AFU". Any comment on this?

I like Telegram as I can use it in my PC independently without mobile phone being online, plus can delete and edit messages any time, save stuffs without sending it to anyone. I can search for channels and watch/read contents without subscription. I can download movies from channels. Group size is big and control features are many. I can get any old message and attachments, even after many years. It is very stable compared to WA.

Very informative. Thank you.

Is there any way at all to encrypt your SMS messages that you send to someone that doesn't have Signal/Whatsapp/Telegram?

What should I do to avoid that my metadata be collected? Most people who I know and have to talk make use of whatsapp, few of them use telegram and anyone uses signal.

thank you, very well done.

Thumbs up!!!!You are doing a great job,bruh!Ever wondered to do a similar video about mails and which is the best e mail app?

@techlore

6 жыл бұрын

Read my mind like a book 📖

@iunlock4261

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, Proton by far the best...

bro how u installed lineage OS with gapps plz make a video on it bro or teach me how to do it

I'm curious, what are the complaints about Signal's group chats? I've never had a significant problem. Signal is definitely a less polished experience than the other apps, but I've mostly had minor bugs. (Though it would be all kinds of nice if the app grouped incoming messages and notified you once rather than drop a pile on you in rapid succession and make your phone wig out.)

Dope Dope , Thank you

Great video and found interesting. 😀

What about Riot.im ?

Incredibly helpful video. Thanks. Liked and subscribed

@techlore

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!

Plz help me I am facing a prbm with telegram app even save to gallery option is off then also media's are showing on my gallery what to do now🤷🏻‍♂️

BEST review ever. Thank you.

Who's here in 2021?

@fladbrook5492

3 жыл бұрын

Not me

@republikadugave420

3 жыл бұрын

Im here from 2022 where whatsapp has one user...Mark Sugarbot

which app are you talking about ? whose they ?? you should mention properly

I am a security professional - we need to take our privacy far more seriously. The lie that your name and information are somehow a digital key separating the two is quite foolharty in my professional opinion. These can be pieced together be by big business, governments and hackers worldwide. The protections to US citizens in the law is very weak. We need to demand better. Europe passed a privacy law in 2018 that addresses the new technologies. We need this, but not some hollowed out version authored by Facebook or Google. We need to stop the corruption as best we can in the process. There is an answer below. Think about an exposure by personal look up name with all your text messages, all your internet searches and everything about you readily available on oh' lets say Tor for a price just like obtaining public information you can buy right now if you have a credit card. Is this acceptable to you? Learn about StingRay - local police have direct access to your cell phone and consider supporting privacy by stopping big business getting their way all the time. StingRay that spies UNFETTERED on your cell phones by local police and the government. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qa6Hya6pftXYYqg.html So what do we do? Here is a few minute video (I am not the author of and don't have any ties to, other than by ears are perked to likely support). This is a non-partisan movement we could seriously look into - and if you believe in it, to help or fund in the US to get a far better handle on what I would seriously call “a gasping situation of corruption”. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpqFy8xtkbTXYc4.html Privacy issues are going to get a lot worse. Do you sit on your butt or do something about it? You could consider checking out the www.eff.org/about The Electronic Frontier Organization for more privacy information that is important.

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

Well spoken.

2021 whatsapp is not private any more

I was tag to join a unreliable group on Telegram. I'm not sure my account was hacked or just friend of mine invited me. But I didn't view or open to that group conversation, I just leave and delete. Please kindly help

Awesomee video @Techlore

very good video, many thanks for sharing this content.

Good video brother nice explanation power

Can you give me your opinion on the messaging app Confide?

Thanks for the info

Does anyone know how to buy telegram/ Signal stock? Are they public at all

do u know what is the most frustrating issue with Signal? their desktop application. It's truly terrible, extremely slow and buggy and also with some security issues as visible phone numbers, one list of contacts without any customization

Nice gem I stumbled across. Thanks for such nice channel

I saw that the t shirt says Eminem And I liked and subscribed Simple as that 😃

Great review. You missed another popular App called Viber. But overall, I really loved this video.

Info on the most secure MAPS and CALENDAR/planner apps, please. I just started using tutanota's calendar (thanks to your former advice/video on email). Still trying to kiss Google goodbye.

Me: What is that clicking noise I hear in my house? Me, a few seconds later: oh, it's the video.

Awesome table dude...

thank you trying to set this up

Which one charge less megabytes ?

How can signal be used for Apple Watch?

Hey @Techlore , as per current circumstances, so many people will be migrating messenger apps. Many people are going towards Telegram, few towards Discord even. And also, a fork of Signal, named Session is also showing progress. Can you make a follow up video on these instant messengers??

@techlore

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

interesting video. i enjoyed it. many thanks

Any updates on this verdict after 2 years?

What about paid services like threema?

the "wassup" joke got really old. really fast.

Tbh Telegram has far more features than all of those, you can customize the color of every single sspect of the UI, thousands of animated stickers that are specifically made for telegram, you can have up to 100,000 people in your group, you can send an entire movie or any file up to 2 GB to your friends and family, unlike whatsapp where you can only send up to 16 MB for a video.

telegram is the best because it has bots, channels, a infinity cloud, SUPER customizable and NEVER, i repeat, NEVER hawk your information with facebook (ejem whats) and have proxys for the security of the user!!

have you tried jami?

How does Telegrams falls behind Whatsapp? Quite some features of whatsapp appeared in Telegram first.

Telegram is best. Bro u can download almost anything from it.

You have to study more before doing videos, you lied in a lot of points, you confused encryption with e2e encryption, you said that in features WhatsApp is similar to telegram (???) And the fact thas WhatsApp have e2e encription is useless when it have 2 known backdoors, (it can change encription keys and add listeners to groups) In security, privacy and features Telegram is better than whatsapp, but in security, signal is better. The only thing i miss in Telegram is e2e group chats, that's the reason signal is better in that point (but not WhatsApp)

BEATING AROUND BUSH BE SPECIFIC

i m From India Using Signal App Last 1.3 years it's Good and Having Great Features of Privacy

Nobody is talking about signal in comments section why?

Telegram is the most secure. And customisation that telegram offers specially in edit theme, is incomparable.

@afrocyberdelia

4 жыл бұрын

Telegram WAS the most secure, but Today Signal is the best. WhatsApp still the worst one, but unfortunately the most popular

@ykd0011

4 жыл бұрын

@@afrocyberdelia no

@afrocyberdelia

4 жыл бұрын

@@ykd0011 better speak face2face then

@ykd0011

4 жыл бұрын

@@afrocyberdelia how signal is more secure then telegram. Can you explain

Very good comparison bro..my question to you is..u said signal is the most secure and privacy level is high..but can LAW ENFORCEMENT be able to peek through the client messages if they ever wanted? Like FBI ..CID...OR GOVT.

@techlore

5 жыл бұрын

We have no reason to believe they can as of today. But like everything, don’t fully rely on one piece of technology to keep you safe.

My guy forgot Whatsapp’s Broadcast feature which is like the channel feature from Telegram

in whatsapp the server and the client codes are closed source.

Can u tell what message app is being used from my video thank u no one has been able to figure it out using androud s8

@techlore

4 жыл бұрын

Try posting on r/askreddit and r/android You may get some help

Telegram is the BEST!

@PNCNDNOB

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.. Signal :D

@sksk17828

3 жыл бұрын

@@PNCNDNOB Does Signal offer channels?

@unconnectedgamer6967

3 жыл бұрын

Me realizing Discord exists

You ahould do a new updated version.

What is OWS?