Ah, the famous caterham hot hatch..

@MrBarneyboy1234

2 жыл бұрын

Not like the Toyota Yaris GR roadster? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@martinschofield5465

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@PlanetautoUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBarneyboy1234 or FK8

@MrBarneyboy1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlanetautoUK convertible? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@PlanetautoUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBarneyboy1234 😵‍💫😆

My outright favourite here is the Golf R, but considering they cost more than 40K with options, the i20N is the moral victor. Looks good, drives great and has a manual! That's the kind of 'hot hatch' you'd want to daily.

Analogy of the the Puma ST was brilliant!! "A Fiesta ST that's had a few pints"

Love my i20 N - first one in Scotland and even after my Type R, I’m still smiling!

@relentlesspursuit6894

2 жыл бұрын

Currently CTR miles better than an I20

@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294

2 жыл бұрын

I’m hoping when I get mine it’ll be the first one in Leeds lol

The i20N is making waves. I like it!

@boomdaus

2 жыл бұрын

It also get the best finance value currently in the UK for hot hatches (other than the gr yaris if you want to wait for a 2023 allocation)

I20n looks like a cracking little hatch, and blessed with a manual gearbox too. If I couldn't afford the extra £9k for a Yaris (if you can get hold of one), looks like a great choice to me.....

@mitchybenny

2 жыл бұрын

At the moment it’s not 9k more. People are paying nearly 40k for a GR

@colinw1591

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchybenny yep, and already seen the Hyundai with £2k discount.....

@mitchybenny

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinw1591 you can get it for £22k technically, all be it PCP so obviously it’s more in the end. Cash it’s £23,600

The Golf R starts at just over £40k which I think stretches the limits of "affordable"; in my eyes at least and it's not even available as a manual as far as I can tell. Others may argue that anything is affordable on PCP...

Good video but only the I20N at £25K is ‘affordable’. Even the Puma is £30K plus.

Came here for the i20N, and was not disappointed. I want to get a test drive in one as soon as possible

@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294

2 жыл бұрын

I went to try and find a 120N to test drive unfortunately I couldn’t so I bought one the first time I’ve ever bought a car without a test drive , 3 1/2 months waiting list though it’s going to be a long few months, but I am so pleased I bought one and to be honest I think the resale value will be great especially as they are stopping production of petrol cars in the UK quite soon Hot hatches will be sought after items

@SimoBenziane

5 ай бұрын

​@@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294How is it? can you review it for us quickly here?

@callummarch3970

2 ай бұрын

Got one. Lovely car

Love that you're testing on a stretch of road that I've driven hundreds of times in a variety of interesting cars.

I’ve owned a Golf R, driven a Fiesta ST that I had for 2 months, and test drove the i20N yesterday. The i20N is the best all round without a doubt. I placed my order there and then, cannot wait🤘

@50dent11

Жыл бұрын

Hows it treating you? I pick mine up Sun!

@NH-bz9jv

Жыл бұрын

@@50dent11 i rejected it after 3 months, engine blew up…… known problem. I’d steer well clear if I was you. Sorry🤷🏼‍♂️

@50dent11

Жыл бұрын

@@NH-bz9jv oh no😂😂😂

@NH-bz9jv

Жыл бұрын

@@50dent11 yep, never again.

Just about to read your write up in this weeks magazine, thought I’d search and watch this first. I always leave reading your magazine to read on a Sunday!

We needed this for the masses thanks

Is the i20n better than the i30n for the price difference. Would be an interesting comparison back to back. Whether or not it is justifiable.

The torsen diff in the M135i can you turn it on and off or in eco to sport does it work differently

Do you prefer I20N before I30N for the city driving? Please consider than I30N offer DCT Clutch which will be useful in traffic jams.

Strange comparison with so many levels of apples to oranges. Almost every car was a different use case and price? Reviews a fat Fiesta ST, then verbally talked about the Fiesta ST throughout the whole i20 section as being it's direct competitor yet no sign of a Fiesta. As a viewer, that's odd.

Hi, you mention the i30 N, but why is it not in this test? Surely its of the same class as the golf and others...??

Love the I20n, would definately replace my 208Gti with one.

@waynephatg

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I've done

@Rascularvideos

2 жыл бұрын

I’m intrigued what it’s like compared to my 182 Trophy.

@mc1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rascularvideos I would keep the 182 all day is age/wear and fuel economy wasn't a question. The N will be much easier to gain some power though...

@nathanreyes4309

2 жыл бұрын

How's the 208GTi holding up?

@holprod00

2 жыл бұрын

i20 maybe the ugliest car out there

Cupra for power outputs and handling but I'll take the I20N for best allrounder.

The N is for sure my Next car. Pretty N-thuastic about it!

Is there an updated version of this video? Eg 2023.

I cant chose this i20N or the Fiesta ST... like i dont really want the back end going out all the time so ive herd the ST dose? feels unsafe

If the i20N is the best affordable drivers car why is it rated 2nd to the Fiesta ST in your road test this week?

Strange you didn’t mention costs at all in your summing up. The i20 N is phenomenal value compared to the Golf R and perhaps this should be a factor in your choice!

Based on the thumbnail and only being able to read "Whats the best drivers car?" I thought this collection of hatchbacks and a Caterham Super Seven was all Autocar could get get this year 😂

This TEST is like Watching PAINT DRY

Unfortunately a lot of these cars are not available here in Canada. We get way too many SUVs. If I had my way there would be none allowed on the road wasting petrol!!!! Thanks for the excellent review.

I used to run a 1700 cross flow on Webber’s.. they’ve got the sound similar.. but 40£k??? That’s taking the piss.. if it was 20k then perhaps..ps good film! Good reviews!

Where does the Caterham fit in?

Great vid as always. The 128ti doesn't have those dials because it doesn't have that option fitted. It'll have an older version of idrive with a smaller screen.

Great video 👍 good job team 👏

If I was looking for a drivers car the Ford Puma wouldn’t be on the list…but the Hyundai looks like a bundle of fun..🥳😎

@andyhunt457

2 жыл бұрын

It's a drivers car for those who have to have the extra boot space and/or the extra ride height to be able to get in and out of.The Kona N will suffer from the same issues as the Puma as well as the benefits.

Love the i20 N and happy it won. The Golf R is way too expensive to be included. Caterham can't handle a crash and have you live so it can't be included.

The I 20N is the car for me, good job seeing as I’ve just bought one hopefully I will get it at the end of this month after three long months cracking little car

@Maxi86inAction

2 жыл бұрын

How is it?

@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maxi86inAction It’s a great car really really fast and its fun to drive and sounds Really really good KZread doesn’t give it justice and it can be quite economical if driven sensibly I would definitely recommend it

The golf for those who have given up on life.The i30n is just amazing.

@philliz2629

2 жыл бұрын

i20N

My I20N is due October and I cannot wait. Spent a long time shortlisting options and nothing matched it for bang for buck. Kona N looking like it could be a genuine crossover king, too - I30N power in a jacked up I20N body, madness!

@Tribulation88

2 жыл бұрын

My i20N is due by the beginning of November, ordered it on the 13th of August and the dealer gave me no indication other than up to 12 weeks. It's radio silence and it's really great to see all these reviews calling it the next best thing, but at the same time it's killing me not being able to drive it yet. I've got no idea how long I'll have to wait, it's radio silence from my dealer so far. Gotta be patient I guess. I got mine for £22k fully spec'd, how'd you do in battle against your dealer?

@Jo3yPropane

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tribulation88 Yeah, chased my order up this week (placed 4th August, so almost a month ago) and was basically told the same thing - "no update yet, car still in the factory most likely". I'm just glad this is a really busy time of year, so at least it'll go quick haha. I think mine works out just over £22.5k with perf blue paint and Bose, so not far off :D

@Tribulation88

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Jo3yPropane Really annoying, it's likely due in part to the chip shortage too. Hopefully the dealers can get some better tracking from Hyundai, I'd feel a lot better knowing what stage the order is at... like tracking a Domino's pizza lol Hopefully it will fly, maybe it's best to forget I ordered one hahaha. Nice, it's a cracking deal.​

When you start comparing FWD to Four wheel drive and RWD cars to each other as in a “same class” for handling driving and other features, its becomes annoying to watch

@zakelwe

2 жыл бұрын

Drivers car not handling. They have another shootout for handling.

That Cupra is a good looking thing

No Megane or civic type r?

If I didn't have a GR Yaris, I would be straight to Hyundai for the I20N.

Wait how come the Yaris GR4 wasn't here?

@iBlogGadget

2 жыл бұрын

It was in the 2020 comparison. This one is for 2021 cars only.

@CJONE764

2 жыл бұрын

@@iBlogGadget ahh fair play. It seemed like a glaring omission.

@MrBarneyboy1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@iBlogGadget but the caterham came out in 2020? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@neilbenton1152

2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe no gr yaris! WtF

@jamiefisher1430

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJONE764 I'm surprised that the GR 86 wasn't on this Autocar shootout. The GR 86 had its only UK debut at the Goodwood festival of Speed but no where else. All the journalists from Japan and USA have done their videos, so what's going on with Toyota UK?

I've got an I20 and I haven't seen another one yet!

Great job Autocar! Looking forward to your verdict on the upcoming Toyota GR 86. So many press launch videos from Japan and America by now, I wonder what's taking Toyota UK so long, when they did a very subtle UK launch at the Goodwood Festival of Speed...Unfortunately The GR 86 be ignored by people who prefer turbocharged hothatcbacks (because all they care about is straight line speed and PCP Finance deals) or people who want a more raw experience like a Caterham, but I see it as the perfect sweet spot between the those two types of cars in that spectrum.

@jamiefisher1430

2 жыл бұрын

I am a big fan of the GR Yaris, but I think that it may work against the GR86's success. I love both of these GR products that Akio san got involved with, but I think most people here will only be interested in 0-60 times and 1/4 mile numbers, so the GR86 may be sadly ignored. I hope both cars get the attention and praise they deserve by car enthusiasts.

I can understand the word "affordable" for i20N and puma, however golf r is nowhere close to the meaning of this word. Also, you compare golf r vs 128ti and i20N, I mean... A 100 horse power difference doesn't make sense in a car comparison, especially vs awd and fwd. Also, there is no type r, even though it's not affordable. Bad title choice I guess

@user-hr2zy7ct8h

2 жыл бұрын

@Andrew yeah he's just saying this video seems a bit detached from reality. that disgusting 1 series Bmw starts at 44k€ in my country, that's not affordable at all. The i20N costs "only" 25k, that's what you would actually call affordable. Mid-class citizens don't want to spend 44k on a useless ugly small hatchback. Looking at the cars I instantly knew which one had won, fast forward, was right, checking out now. You might be right that this is a reasonable comparsion, but in that case my domestic (German) brands showed up with a knife to a battleship fight.

@Rascularvideos

2 жыл бұрын

I think the headline cost figures are a bit misleading when most buy on finance and BMW/Volkswagen group are very good at those deals.

I get my i20 N tomorrow!!! 😍

I agree with the findings but i must say when the golf r as a standard car now starts at just over 40k so you'd have to pay much higher road tax 'affordable' might be a bit of a stretch for many when in this group

Informative and not full of nonsense as usual, just as I like it. Keep up the good work

No base model GR Yaris?

The i30N with DCT does it for me, Only thing that worries me is the number of issues Hyundai have had with that DCT in other models

Forgot to say that the Cupra Leon is bigger than the Golf R. BTW hate those touch controls.

Why get a Puma over a Fiesta? I don’t get it

the most enthusiastic and full of emotions shootout i have ever seen!)

@raymondchadwick3577

2 жыл бұрын

lolololol

The golf r is a over 40k and classed as a luxury car now, so it’s not that affordable. However with lease deals it may be common as mud as with the mk7

Ford's obsession with SUVs is killing them

@AlexCanta2564

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, puma st is a useless car, god why they didn't make from puma a coupe

Ford Puma doesn't have the market to itself. The T-Roc R been around a while as well as the Audi SQ2. Both compact SUV's.

A93, Glenshee?

What I don’t get is why would you not include cars on sale for more than a year? Average punter doesn’t care if hatch has been available for 2-3 years, and that usually means more development time.

Wheres GR, most hyped ’hot hatch’ for the 2021?

@ChrisplayThrough64

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

Expected to see a GR Yaris as well

Hyundai, should make a i10N in competition with the vw up gti

I fell to sleep about halfway, who won?

@raymondchadwick3577

2 жыл бұрын

they really dont have much in the way of personalities, do they! I think Mat Watson can sleep easy

No CTR?

I like you guys you going so slow for the test 😂😂😂

@27.50 come on guys get the accounts department to dip into petty cash for another mic. You are 'Autocar' after all.

This review missed out the yardstick of the hot hatches- The Toyota Yaris GR. so this lot are just vying for second place

Ford puma is on another level

What's the best 125cc A1 motorcycle: Honda CB125F or Yamaha YS125 ? Thank you in advance

@Moonlight-hq3gi

2 жыл бұрын

humble honda better

@EinkOLED

2 жыл бұрын

The Honda varadero 125 is a good bike for tall people. And it looks and feels like a much bigger bike. If you're just looking for something to commute on with less maintenance and more practicality then the Honda pcx 125 scooter would be my recommendation. 125 cc geared bikes require a lot of great changes just to reach legal speeds, and you have less wind protection and a chain that will need cleaning and adjusting. But you would be better riding a geared 125 bike if you intend on passing your A2 or DAS full licence.

@llama_wehraboo7274

2 жыл бұрын

@@EinkOLED thank you mate 👍

@EinkOLED

2 жыл бұрын

@@llama_wehraboo7274 Any reason why you want to take your A2? With a CBT you can ride for 2 years on L plates but without the ability to use motorways. If you're 19 years old + then take the A2 as you're not restricted to a 125, but you will be limited to 47 BHP which is enough for British roads, but you will need a CBT or A1 with some experience before getting onto a bigger bike. If you're 24 then you can take the DAS (direct access route) which will allow you to ride any motorcycle without any restrictions.

@Moonlight-hq3gi

2 жыл бұрын

cb125r looks better than f i mean that round headlight cb125

I like the review, although, there isn't much of a comparisson to the Puma ST ( which I own proudly). Puma ST is the best car I've driven in years ( coming from 208 Gti and VW Gti ). Fun and functionality combined.

@kevinmills5293

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that. I pick mine up in 2 days. I like the i20N but need the ground clearance the puma offers.

@aono335

Жыл бұрын

Ofcourse youre gonna wave the flag for the puma lol you own the bloody thing. That doesnt mean its the best of the pack. It's an average car.

why is a caterham in a hot hatch shoot out ?

Great review thank you. i20N nails it for me and I would take it over any other car here. I cant get over the looks of the Golf or the choice of materials for the interior, I like the look of the BMW and it probably takes second place but loses marks for auto.

@holprod00

2 жыл бұрын

i20 maybe the ugliest car out there

@laurencerucker2585

2 жыл бұрын

The new auto's are miles ahead of manuals ... manuals are old school. AND the Golf R is miles ahead of the i20N... Very bias review...

Didn't have to watch this video to the end for the verdict...I knew all along they'd pick the new i20N........

Alas there are no i20n's coming to Canada anytime soon.

comparing Golf R with i20N..what are you guys smoking?!

No Yaris GR?

yes sure put a puma st for a drivers car but not a megane rs :D

I hope MINI puts the BMW 128 Ti motor in the JCW Hardtop 🤞🤞🤞

No Honda Civic Type R ?

Attempting to watch Autocar without an ad blocker was a mistake...I didn't know that it's possible to attach so many ads to a 28 minute video.

@Rascularvideos

2 жыл бұрын

I hardly got any and don’t use and ad blocker.

@georgimihalkov4781

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rascularvideos It depends on your region I guess. There were 10-12 ads on this video for me.

@hpman911

2 жыл бұрын

Only had one ad viewing in London

Love the idea of ' affordable' You live in a different world..

@SteezyG

2 жыл бұрын

Expensive and affordable are different thing. These cars are affordable and expensive. They're around £250 a month for the Cupra which is affordable.

GR Yaris seems an omission ? Granted they area limited run (Currently)

@Hugh.G.Rection.

2 жыл бұрын

Big difference in price point

@michaelord8084

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hugh.G.Rection.Purchase price I'd agree but with the finance rate they were offeinng and residual I'd argue it's the cheapest car there. Getting hold of one is a different matter mind you 😁

@hpman911

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried to squeeze into the back of a 3 door Yaris? It’s a great car but not practical enough to be used by a young family as a daily drive. Plus it has a 6 month service requirement and a very short range fuel tank not to mention the lack of a rear wiper! Having said all that yes it’s a brilliant drivers car !

@michaelord8084

2 жыл бұрын

@@hpman911 agreed, however, it's a 'Best Drivers Car' Test and they also featured a Caterham 😅 Rear wipe omission seems silly

@hpman911

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelord8084 Don’t know why they included the Caterham , very strange curve ball choice!

As an owner of an i20N I can only agree 😅

No Type R?

Audio - buy another lapel microphone.

Not sure about autocar anymore. Always seem to find to many faults or downsides to the cars they drive. Im guessing all the hyper cars they drive must make hot hatches seem dull to them.

Where is the Toyota Yaris gr or Audi S3 or Honda Civic Type R or Ford Fiesta ST

Love the way most of the golf R talk was just "it's a golf"

Should have included a Suzuki Swift Sport too....?

@Rascularvideos

2 жыл бұрын

I have driven both the old model and the fairly recently revamped and the old model is ace. The new one not so much. It understeers too much and feels a bit too soft. I understand why they’ve done it but they’ve lost more than they’ve gained. It’s not awful but not great.

No GR, no Type R?

@nathanb2100

2 жыл бұрын

Both of those hatches were in last year's test

I'd take the BMW I think. Good quality and a bit more sensible, it fun when you want it. Cheaper to run then the AWD and M models too.

WHAT THE **** why no Yaris, unbelievable.

Golf R..affordable I hear you say?

Where's the Yaris?

I skipped the “Pooma” segment. I don’t care what the verdict on it is, not interested.

I wish the Honda e was included, just to see how it compares, even though it's only a warm hatch with flat seats.

@IslaSprollie

2 жыл бұрын

@iamspyvspy Yes true, watching KZread on widescreen.

Got to be the Yarris 😘

Prob agree, you forgot a very important factor - price. The i20 is at least 10k less than the golf, no competition however few people that have £35k plus to spend would actually spend £23k. Also Cupra is stupid money.

Where is the Toyota GR Yaris?

You took a Caterham but not an MX5? Pity about the sound towards the end of the video.

@jamiefisher1430

2 жыл бұрын

The current generation MX-5 was facelift in July 2018, so I think they only chose cars that made their debut on 2021. I was looking forward to the Toyota GR86 to be in this video but Toyota UK are slow with their press launches.

A very in depth review. Though there is no way I'd buy the hyundai over an R !