SO good to see people having fun in cars at Rockingham again

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it just! Rest assured this is set to be a long-term thing. We're even looking at circuit refurbishment, so watch this space (and don't forget to subscribe 😝)

@JamesJohnson-or9lr

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinch Fantastic, great to see Europe's fastest race circuit being used again.

Great review, subbed 👍

hey mate! got a question here. if we talk about reliability, which one is more likely your choice here? thanks!

Great film. i20N for me 👍

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Nick!

@shadowplay8477

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Super happy with my i20n purchase 3 months ago. Totally enjoyable everyday and in different conditions. Doesn't mean I have anything against the fiesta of course. Just happy there are a couple of different flavours to pick between now. People should focus on that.

So which one is better?. Today I tried a Fiesta St with a differential and I liked it. The i 20 n I have not been able to test it since there is not. Buy a second-hand Fiesta St with little use, or wait for an I20 N for a few months? Greetings from Barcelona, ​​Spain.👌

Getting my i20N soon. (and the Fiesta looks, well, just like another Fiesta)

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

I can't choose though the ST has 320nm torque and 200bhp this has 204bhp and 275nm seems slower on paper.. but the ST just pulls and pulls

@graemetaylor629

Жыл бұрын

No it doesn’t

@GermanSurvivorZ

Жыл бұрын

@@Chappers.Gaming The ST has the better 100-200 time. ST are doing around 18-18,5 seconds 100-200. The i20 around 20-21..

@ulysses4989

Жыл бұрын

@@GermanSurvivorZ Much better 0-100 time on i20*

@GermanSurvivorZ

Жыл бұрын

@@ulysses4989 no.

Can’t beat a scrappy Fiesta ST on a country B road…. Nobody does a mad hot hatch like Ford!

I like this guy. Great video, great driving

Going to look at the mk 8.5 this Thursday and will be making a choice between it and the i20n

@chieflemons

6 ай бұрын

What did you go with?

Test driving a Mk8 ST and i20N back to back on the same day, I can tell you there's not a lot in it. The i20N has the exhaust noise and acceleration, the Mk8 ST has the better suspension. The main issue I have with the mk8 is that when you're not in it, at some point you have to look at it to go somewhere... it's not as nice as the mk7.5 ST. I'm glad I ordered an i20N, I just hope it arrives soon!

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

So you think the ST looks meh? That's fair I can't choose what car

@Tribulation88

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chappers.Gaming It's better looking than the new Mk8.5, but they're still both worse looking than the mk7.5 IMO. If I didn't already have an ST200, that's what I'd buy, I've been waiting since August for the i20N! New customers will be waiting at least 60 months according to Hyundai (who knows for the new ST), the only reason I've not given up is that I've had my ST200 since new... it's time for a change.

This is the conclusion I came to before buying my i20n. I knew the ST would be more sideways more often, but as you can only really hammer a car on track days, the fact the i20n is quicker round a twisty track, keeps it’s warranty, has the exhaust note which isn’t faked as much in the cockpit and when driving on the road is the one which looks more mental/like a hot hatch, I went with it. The caveat was that it has every single toy you could possibly want. Mine cost me €26k in the end which was much less than Ford wanted for a limited version ST.

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Great choice!

@Camarao_Pistola

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you but the sound in the cabin is very poor against the Fiesta ST. Too fake. Like it was said in the vídeo, less memorable.

@i20nScot

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camarao_Pistola The sound isn’t “fake” in the slightest. There is sod all difference to what you hear outside the car and inside. It’s all the exhaust of course but that’s not “fake”. If you prefer the sound of 3 cylinders fair enough. Having only 3cyl was basically why I didn’t get an ST though. It’s life won’t be as long as the tunes on the i20 are much more likely to be beefier.

@Camarao_Pistola

2 жыл бұрын

@@i20nScot 👍🏻

@Bryan-jj3if

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camarao_Pistola it was actually the opposite for me, the fiesta had fewer pops and sounded very unnatural and fake (partly due to the sound being amplified with the speakers in the cabin, hence the car making fake sounds), compared to the i20 with more pops and crackles and a lot better exhaust sound overall.

It was a tough choice for me but I got my st3 with performance pack a few months ago. Couldn't be happier.

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can't choose the new facelift ST has 320nm torque and this has 275nm soo the st will pull for longer

Every day again it's amazing how much you can do with it I have my fiesta st mk8 about 2 years now every day pure fun. I20n it's not the same. I20n is a great car only not the same fun as the Fiesta st mk8

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain, what the fun means? Cos I can't choose between them

Hey Cinch, could we please have Rockingham back for drifting? please and thanks

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan, we're actually looking at restoring and repairing parts of the circuit, so all things are moving in the right direction. Nothing's decided yet, but rest assured we're considering all options. Watch this space!

@danjoyce9252

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinch don't you dare threaten me with a good time, but if this comes to fruition I can pass on the details of the main people who have organised most drift days in and around thebuk for the past decade

hey @cinch well done for buying Rockingham and clearing it of all the cars, Are you now going to reopen it for racing.

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

If only it were that simple! We'd love to get the circuit back to its best; watch this space..

@carcontrolcommitment

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinch we like this!

Next, a comparison test of the 2022 Hyundai i20 N vs VW Polo (with the most powerful engine) R.🤔

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a fun comparison, as the i20 N is faster than you'd expect around a twisty track...

I love my Fiesta ST 3 MK8 2019 ❤

I know which one Cinch has little to no chance of being able to source - “and it’s not the red one”!

Good review, shame about the click bait title though. I really fancy the i20N as my next motor

So, without giving away the verdict, which would be your preferred sub-£25,000 track day hot hatch?

@OllyBrand

2 жыл бұрын

Many Fiesta ST wants :D

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

Fiesta is the King

@incar95678

Жыл бұрын

Very difficult to choose between a Fiesta ST, i20N, GR86.

Had my i20n for 2 weeks, came from a year old fiesta st and don't miss the fiesta

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

If you "Had" it. Where is it now?

@nobody2934

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should have waited for the 2022 fiesta st, much much nicer interior then the drab i20

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobody2934 The pre facelift interior is already far superior. The Fiesta is more in the direction of audi / VW interior quality. The Hyundai is more Fiat, Seat interior quality. But the facelift of the fiesta is ugly as fk. It looks less agressive, less sporty and looks like a Hyundai i10 or like it was the new Version of the Ford Ka. Its a big downgrade on the optical side.

@nobody2934

2 жыл бұрын

I personally like the look of the facelift st, I've ordered one for the Mrs, it doesn't look as aggressive, it looks refined and elegant with a touch of sportyness, at 39 years old it's more suited to us, and like you said the interior of the fiestas now are superb! I'd say better then a polo and certainly better then the A1, the Hyundai looks absolutely shocking inside

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobody2934 i had the opportunity to compare the interiors. Even the Polo is not that quality. The Fiesta has well done soft touch. Buttons dont feel cheap, but are for sure no luxury quality. The Display is pretty nice for what it is. The navigation and infotainment is snappy. But the steering wheel, the original leather one is far ahead of all the other hot hatches. The polo in comparsion uses much hard plastic which is pretty thin and squeaks. Speakers do vibration noises inside the door and so on.

Fiesta ST💪🏽

got a MK8 with slip diff, went stage 1 few weeks ago. best 1.3k i ever spend (went full stage 1 with extra quality of life improvements). around 260bhp now. it's a rocket. actually managed to beat a macan 4s in a 50kmh pull from second. its a beast for its size!!!

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

There is no stage 1 with 260 hp for the mk8. Stage 2 would. Stqge 1, no matter if mountune, revo or any other is max 230 - 240 hp.

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@nothanks6665 nope. We actually have a kind of a small data base. Performances of different tunings. Mountune, Dreamscience, Revo and so on. None reaches 260hp. But yea, Revo is one of those claiming the highest number, but are the furthest away from this actual number. Tuners, specially british software tuners, tend to raise the numbers for advertisement. On a real dyno you can take 15 - 20 hp away from that claim.

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Could you not tune the i20n to be good?

I think people tend to overlook the fact that the i20N is designed as a track-ready vehicle you can thoroughly thrash, and the Fiesta is designed as a fun b-road basher. If you're thinking of doing regular track days, go with the i20N. Just driving around town and doing some fast road driving? Fiesta.

I love the Fiesta ST

henry is happy !!!!

Comparing the Fords against the yachts ? :/

Nice video , great skills , I20N owner since friday 10/12 , i love the two cars but i fell in love with the litle korean girl

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Who can blame you!

Fiesta ST MK8 TOP

I like Fiesta ST - interior and appearance. It's a good looking car in every angle 👍

@rxs87

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I also prefer the more subtle look of it, the i20n looks a bit boy racer

i20N on order. Fiesta drives well but looks dreadful and the cabin is nothing like the i20's not is it as customisable.

So who will be the 'lucky' person to buy that ST that has been tracked and voided it's warranty then? You obviously know of the issue as you covered the number plate up!

@tsotsi5254

2 жыл бұрын

You must be fun at a party

if you drove like you did on a real track day you'd be told to leave the track, for good. I thought this was a comparison "on track" video but sadly the video just shows someone arsing about around corners and not showing what both cars can do on a timed lap for real.

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Simon, we're just as disappointed as you are that we couldn't beat the November sunset and a sudden downpour to get the timed laps we'd planned for in this video. But our verdict is sincere; the i20 N was consistently faster, even when the cars weren't going sideways. Perhaps we should post the onboards from our laps anyway in another video. What do you think?

@Camarao_Pistola

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinch i think that has to do with brakes and the fact that fiesta didn't have the LSD. I have a Fiesta ST and brakes are the weakest point. the i20N has much bigger brakes. Ford sells a Tarox 300mm upgrade kit for the fiesta though. I might get it one day...

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camarao_Pistola 300mm is definitely an upgrade to stock 275mm front brakes but the I20n stock front brakes are 320mm

@Camarao_Pistola

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chappers.Gaming yeah... But the tarox kit is a 6 pot so.. Might be even better than the i20 stopping power.

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camarao_Pistola yeah that's true regardless it will still improve the ST. is the I20n a 4pot? I Mean I don't know if I'm correct but +.20mm bigger even in a 4 pot is still good imo more friction / surface area for cooling, the 6 pot might do well but being slightly smaller will it fade just a tad earlier? It will definitely have some bite behind it that's for sure.

Title should not be which is faster, because you dont use objective times, just your opinion about fun. Change the title to which is funnier. For faster take a fiesta st3 with performance pack, and in a dry track make 2-3 fast runs and take the average. Obviously we all know that i20n is faster at almost every truck, even againts the mighty st edition which uses coil over suspension. Take a look at fastlaps .

@cinch

2 жыл бұрын

Hi George, while we didn't actually time the cars because of the conditions, the i20 N was consistently the quicker around a lap. Not surprising at all, but it was interesting that the Hyundai held an advantage even when it had lighter rainfall than the Fiesta. It's a serious bit of kit!

@georgealex8306

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinch substitude lighter with heavier and it makes sense:) . Fiesta st is a fantastic car, but it lacks the most important element. Brake power and most importantntly its brakes cant handle2-3 fast rounds. They just fade and are set on fire when someone tries to make 2-3 very fast laps.

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgealex8306 but what if someone went I don't care about the brakes being small and buys an upgrade kit? Will it then become better or equal

Are all these review channels sponsored by Ford 😂. I20n is so clear

Don't get why you guys do that many sideways on track. You lose a fuckin huge amount of time doing those, and isn't good for the tires either.

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

But good for fun

@Sam-bn7jk

2 жыл бұрын

@@dom3827 yes but you don't fuckin do a review of a car speaking of its speed on track doin that...

Sure but when it comes down to it, only one of them has a 5yr unlimited mile track warranty and the other has a 3 cylinder chocolate box engine that’s way too clever deformed it’s own good with a 3yr warranty……… sorry but I’ll take the Hyundai any day and that’s something I never thought I would ever say 10ths ago

Salty

The i20N is MUCH better than the Fiesta. Owned a ST Mk8 for 3 yrs and changed to an i20N 2 month ago. Its superior in nearly everything. Even consumption is about 10% less than in the ST despite its cylinder deactivation 🤷‍♂️

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

And now stop fanboying and realtalk. I drove both, the i20N has much worse interior quality and the Fiesta pulls unbeliavably much better around corners. You feel the quaife diff working.

@grantorino9049

2 жыл бұрын

@@dom3827 😀😀 it doesnt. And bye

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantorino9049 fanboy. As i said

@grantorino9049

2 жыл бұрын

@@dom3827 i bought both ;) u have no clue at all. Stick to your Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost 😏

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantorino9049 the ST has 1.0 Liter ?🤣 Who has no clue? Pathetic troll

full of crap you, the st is no way the car the i20n is

@hairyviking6047

Жыл бұрын

Not what every review I've ever seen says. Some swing to the i20, some the Fiesta. But most have said that the Hyundai doesn't have the character of the Fiesta and the Hyundai's engine is not as good as the Fist.

The i20N just looks so pathetic. Like the 7 years old me designed a match box car. Sad that they screwed that up so much. Even the exhaust is a shame. Could have been a good looking car. The i30N was not that bad. But the i20N is hilarious. I feel ashamed when driving it, like i would be a giant baby playing with its toy cars.

@c00lm1nt

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the reason why I ordered a Fiesta ST instead of a i20N. I think Hyundai went too far and in the end the car looks childish and cheap..

@dom3827

2 жыл бұрын

@@1buzzbar you must be trolling lol

@timn3196

2 жыл бұрын

The Fiesta st looks dated and a bit bland. Looks like someone at Ford couldn’t be bothered to try to make it look a bit more edgy. I like the fact that Hyundai has the guts to try to stand out and be different. It should be celebrated. The interior in the Fiesta also looks dated. Also in terms of handling I personally don’t think all the body roll that happens in the Fiesta is “fun”. It’s actually more childish how Ford intentionally designed it to break rear traction. The I20 N will also break traction at the rear but only when pushed to the absolute limit. I personally prefer the better corner handling it offers over the fiesta. Thankfully everyone’s taste is different so we don’t have to see the same cars everywhere. Just my opinion, not saying I’m an expert. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@Chappers.Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Well as we don't drive on track we all drive on roads, I'd be looking at what car is better on the road rather then track.. if the I20n is good on the track due to its conrer ability's then personally I'd chose that because roads are not straight lines... That's not to say the ST can't take a corner.. most fast roads are straight lines and that's when the ST shines it pulls and pulls but the I20n can just about do that but by the time you reved up and speed off... your at a junction anyways, so they are both good cars maybe the i20m for daily life ??